1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Edo State is that? Whoo whoom? 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie. 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Dan Rubenstein we talked along and hard about it before 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: we hit the go button today. Okay, I believe we 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: settled on a name for this Saturday. That's a bit 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: of a zag, if only because it's in a different language. 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's Sukassa Saturday. And I don't fully know 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: what it means, but I think there is some sort 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: of very healthy percentage of top like twelve or thirteen 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: teams who are on the road. And so when I 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: was going through, first of all, my name is Dan, 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: that's Ti hi, Right, is that a way we can 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: we can still introduce ourselves. When I was going through, 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the is like, well, it's it's in the JMA wireless though, right, 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Not that Clemson is a top twelve or thirteen team 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: at this moment. 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: But what. 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Me was like, I think they're the better team, but 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: they're on the road. And then I looked at another 25 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: game I was like, well, I think they're on the 26 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: better team, they're wow, man, that's a night game on 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: the road, or like it's kicking off at nine am. 28 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Their body time on the road again, and so it's 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a home field advantage thing. 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: It's is Sukasa going to be me Kasa? 31 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: And I think let's look at you? 32 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: That's my theme? Whose house will it end up being? 33 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: I love this? I love this, soukassa Saturday. It is 34 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: week five. Thank you for downloading the show. 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This week we've got five big dogs. 81 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I added one didn't even tell you about it? 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Ty. 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: We will walk through the big dogs here. 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Five for five. Why not? 85 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: As I think another way to maybe set the stage 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: for what is ahead, we reached out to the vast 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: network of our ballers out there. Here's your week five 88 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: weather forecast. 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: Weather forecast. 90 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: Week five weather is here, and I'll tell you it's 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: looking solid. As we look across the map, Regions of Delight, abound, 92 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: an acc the Big Pen, the sec They're all going 93 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: to enjoy a sun kiss Saturday. 94 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: No rain around now. 95 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: From regions of concern for you looking at the state 96 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: of Florida, UCF could have thunderstorms at games. I'm the 97 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: Baylor in Oregon on Friday night. That's going to be 98 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: a fussy Friday with scattered showers there. 99 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: And the Big twelve is going to sizzle. 100 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: Hottest game of the week is a big game Kansas 101 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: taken on Texas ninety six degrees at pickoff. 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Enjoy the games. 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: That's your solid forecast. 104 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: So there you go. Dan with that as sort of 105 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: the backdrop. Shout out him Buckley for sending that in. 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: He's going to send him in every Wednesday, Bucks the Buckman. Yeah, 107 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: just gonna give us a hand. Let us know where 108 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: things stand from a weather standpoint, because it impacts games 109 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: every week. First big Dog in Week five, first big 110 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Dog troubles me greatly. Okay, Florida Kentucky. Kentucky favored by 111 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: a point and a half this one high noon on ESPN. 112 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I talked myself into Kentucky before the start of the season. 113 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: I really did, and it's fine so far. They're four 114 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and zero, the Murderers, row here Ball State, Eastern Kentucky, Akron, 115 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: and Vandy not getting much out of that, No, not 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: getting not getting much out of that. 117 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: Basically, we know. 118 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: Nothing about the Cats, whether or not they're gonna hold 119 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: up against a good team or not. That's all to 120 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: say that Florida may not be a good team per se. 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: But the defense has been really so. The offense still 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: sort of figuring itself out. One of the bigger surprises 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: to me this season is that Devin Leary has just 124 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: sort of been okay. He's got a fifty nine percent 125 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: completion percentage, a nine to five touchdown to interception ratio. 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: Ray Davis, the running back transfer from Vandy's actually been 127 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: the bigger transfer success so far this season. Should this 128 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: be considered a big dog and where do you come 129 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: down in this game? 130 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, just because of the context of the week, 131 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: it seems like a bigger game, certainly after Florida beat 132 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: Tennessee Kentucky undefeated. Though you mentioned that there's not a 133 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: ton to take away, I did enjoy that Kentucky jumped 134 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: out to the lead that they did against Vandy last 135 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: week because they've had some issues in starting slow. I 136 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: don't love the picks from Devin Leary. I don't love 137 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: a lot about this game, which is to say it 138 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: could be quite competitive. I'm going with Florida here because 139 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: I still believe Florida running the ball, Florida perhaps getting 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: some stops in concert in combination is probably the strongest 141 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: combination at this moment, just because of the more flaccid 142 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 2: way that Kentucky has started out. You heard my God, 143 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: you heard me. We'll get to the Patriot legue later 144 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: Family show. So that is what gives me a little 145 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: bit of pause, where Florida seems to be more tested 146 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: given the win over Tennessee, given they've been to Utah 147 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: and lost. Mind you didn't look good in the process, 148 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: but they're more tested, and so I trust that a 149 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: little bit more. And I like for Florida's sake that 150 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: this is an early kick. If this were a three 151 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: thirty Eastern, if this were a night game, the crowd's 152 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: getting into more of a frenzy tailgating all day. I 153 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: know Mike Stoops talked about this that he's not worried 154 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: that like people are gonna be up early in drinking, 155 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: but I'm kind of did you see that quote. 156 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: I saw it. 157 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: He was like, I trust the good people of Kentucky 158 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: to pour back some beers when they wake up. I'm 159 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: paraphrasing here. That is what encourages me a little bit 160 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: about taking a road dog here in Florida, just the 161 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: I think they know themselves better than Kentucky knows themselves. 162 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: And I get a little bit worried, and I'm I 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: don't love this quarterback matchup because of Devin Leary's picks 164 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: thus far early on. But I'm gonna get I'm gonna 165 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: give it to Florida just because I don't know. Somebody's 166 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: got to win, and I like a couple of elements 167 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: of Florida, maybe a touch more than I like what 168 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Kentucky has. 169 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: Well, you're right to say that we know a lot 170 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: more about Florida than we do Kentucky. I think that 171 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: goes without saying. If you are a Patreon subscriber out 172 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: at for ballers dot com, last Thursday, we spent like 173 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: twenty five odd minutes talking about specifically the Florida offensive 174 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: footprint and what it looks like, what they're trying to do, 175 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: what's working, what's not working, and where they needed to 176 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: try and rectify things moving forward. They're three to one. 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: They beat Tennessee two weeks ago. That was a good win. 178 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: I was hoping that the game against Charlotte would give 179 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: us a more resounding win with some new concepts on off. 180 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: Let's downlook ahead, Tide, believe in the universe, believe in that. 181 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Celt I bet money and lost on that assumption. Okay, 182 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: so I'm going to go with Kentucky at home because 183 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: I am actually going to follow your rubric. I think 184 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: they've got the best unit on the field, which is 185 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: their defense, and I think they still have the better 186 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: quarterback in this matchup, even though Devin Leary hasn't shown 187 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: it so far. Maybe we'll see it on Saturday. I 188 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: expect an ugly, a potential divorgak game for you, with 189 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: the punts and the fumbles and the just fair ugliness, 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: maybe where we're counting punts and not points. Kentucky wins 191 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: this one twenty three to seventeen at home. 192 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: Twenty three seventeen. Okay, I have Florida going twenty one 193 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: to nineteen. How about that? 194 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I win, but ugly, right, It's going to be 195 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: ugly and low scoring. 196 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: I think it'll be like seven to three at halftime, 197 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: ten eight a half, you know something like that. I 198 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: don't know where we are in terms of my final 199 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: score being realistic with my halftime score, but yes, low scoring. 200 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: I don't think either one of these teams scores thirty. 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna need a palette cleanser after a game like that. 202 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: Luckily three thirty ABC, it is Kansas at Texas. You're 203 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna dismiss this game, and it's gonna piss me off. 204 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna dismiss it. 205 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna be dismissive about this game. How so you're 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: you're dismissive of Kansas. I am dismissive of Kansas a 207 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: little bit. I like how they took care of business 208 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: against Illinois, but that don't hasn't necessarily age and the 209 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: aged in the most impressive way. With Illinois season thus 210 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: far being pretty bad. I feel like you have been 211 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: unnecessarily dismissive of Kansas. 212 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: With Kansas's record for straight house fourna, right, so they 213 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: separate themselves light from a pretty bad Nevada team. I 214 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: just I don't know where the test has been in 215 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: terms of how we measure Kansas right now, that's fair. 216 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: So to me what Texas is right now and I'm 217 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: not fully saying they're a take care of business type 218 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: operation and it's a look ahead spot for Texas, is 219 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: it not? It is? They have red River next week now. 220 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: They've had dramatic recent history with Kansas that makes me 221 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: think it won't necessary be a look They're not gonna 222 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: come out sloppy and sludgy and whatever. I just I 223 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: need to see something in the way of Kansas this 224 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: year to believe in. And so if I'm going to 225 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: say taking care of business is underrated, ty, and I 226 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: think you have a sound GGB taking care of business, Yeah, absolutely, 227 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: thanks Cosmo. I think I'm going with Texas as more 228 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: battle tested, more able to keep this offense in front 229 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: of them, and when you have a line like what 230 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: did you say the line was. 231 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: And a half? 232 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what wins this game for Texas against 233 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: the spread is their defense. Like, I don't know, I 234 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: don't believe Kansas is going to get to twenty points 235 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: and I think that's going to help. Slowly, maybe it's 236 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: a crock potting, Maybe it's seventeen thirteen at halftime, something 237 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: like that. And then all of a sudden, it's forty 238 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: one seventeen. 239 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh you are so dis missing them. You set that 240 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: up like you weren't gonna but you did it anyway. 241 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: It's in Austin. I think Kansas is a good team. 242 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: They're going to go to a bowlame this year. I 243 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: think they're going to make creamental progress this year. But 244 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: where the Texas defense is right now, in the number 245 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: of ways you know, the emergence of what it's Jonathan 246 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: Brooks in the backfield for Texas, I think they're just 247 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: a more complete team. And I think in this part 248 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: of the Sark cycle, I think they're they're a taking 249 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: care of business team. I do. 250 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: Kansas got dismantled in this game a year ago. I 251 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember. That was the Bejon Robinson 252 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: game where he went for two forty however many odd 253 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: yards and it was forty one nil until two minutes 254 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: left in the third quarter. Still, still, even with that 255 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: in mind, and with everything that you said is true, Okay, 256 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: Still I looked at the point spread and I said, 257 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: Kansas can score sixteen and a half seventeen points in 258 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: a lot. That's a lot when you've got two teams 259 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: that can score. Yeah, so you were also right to 260 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: point out all of what we don't know about Kansas. 261 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Kansas started three to oh last season or this season, 262 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: excuse me? And last season right? Last season they were 263 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: this year's Colorado, right, they were the biggest story in 264 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: college football. Game day went there for the Duke game. 265 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: That's true this year four and oh. I haven't heard 266 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: anything about Kansas this year. And I think if I 267 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: were a Kansas fan, I was trying to like think 268 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: about this one in the shower, like how would I 269 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: feel about that? Because Kansas is still a great story, 270 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like enough people are talking about them. 271 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: I think the fact that Lance Wipold has gotten them 272 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: to the point where they're four and oh, they're unbeaten, 273 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: they're going into a big game, and they haven't received 274 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: nearly the attention is last year. That's a positive sign. 275 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: That means that you can change the culture. That means 276 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: that you can change the way people think about your 277 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: program very very quickly. It just takes one takes one season, 278 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: It takes some hype, and clearly they did that a 279 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: year ago. This season, they're at a point where I 280 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: think they're coming into this game, expecting to perform, expecting 281 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: that they're going to show out and get some revenge 282 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: of what happened last year. 283 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: This is still a Kansas tem that who win eight games. 284 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: It is. It is like, I'm pretty high on Kansas. 285 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: I just think Texas is excellent. 286 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: I make this pick at my own peril as someone 287 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: who picked Texas to make the playoff and as someone 288 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: who knows that this could be a blowout win for Texas. Okay, 289 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: I think Kansas can and will hang in this game. 290 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: The only way that can happen is if this is 291 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: a shootout, and I'll save the sound for Saturday night. Okay, 292 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: this is a look ahead game because red River is 293 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: on deck. I worry about the look aheads, especially against 294 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: a team that can score and a team that's got 295 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: it circled because what happened last year. I think Texas wins. 296 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I think this is a game. I think it's forty 297 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: two to thirty five Texas. 298 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Texas is giving up thirty five points to Kansas. Forty 299 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: two to thirty five. My preticutre What time is kickoff? 300 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Three thirty ABC? 301 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: Okay, w does it? 302 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to another I don't know. We'll call it 303 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: Head versus Heart matchup, six pm ESPN. It is LSU 304 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: minus two and a half. It is on the road 305 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: at ole Miss. You and I disagreed over this game, 306 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: and we didn't even preview yet. We disagreed over it 307 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: in slack when we were setting up this show. You 308 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: are on Ole Miss, I am on LSU. I can 309 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: tend there is no way Ole Miss is winning this game, 310 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: but I would love to hear you out first. Give 311 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: me your thesis for why you like Old Miss. 312 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: This is a sukasa matchup that I give Ole Miss 313 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: a certain amount of credit that even after their performance, 314 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: their woeful performance on offense last week against Alabama, I 315 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: don't think Lsho's defense is Alabama's defense. As we saw 316 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: in the Arkansas matchup for the Tigers last week, LSU 317 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: holds on to win a close game against Arkansas. The 318 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: game once again it's in Oxford. I still like Lane 319 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: Kiffin as an aggressive play caller, as an aggressive coach. 320 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: I don't love this defense, which gives me pause. Because 321 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels is by and large had an excellent year. 322 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: We saw them look more complete on offense last week, 323 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: running the ball, getting it too. Brian Thomas Moore, which 324 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: I know a lot of LSU fans were hoping for 325 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: this year, but I think it's going to be the 326 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: holes in gaps. I think it's last week may have 327 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: been a situation of Lane Kiff and caring too much 328 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: right needling Nick Saban early on in the week about 329 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: Kevin Steele and sort of underestimating what Alabama could do, 330 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: especially on defense. After the USF game, I think things 331 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: are going to be a little bit realigned, to use 332 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: a very popular term now for college football, for Ole 333 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: Miss here, I think Jackson Dart has a nice game. 334 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: I think he's a dual threat without the size necessarily 335 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: of kJ Jefferson, but I think he's a playmaker enough 336 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: that they're able to win this game at home by 337 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, four or five points outright. 338 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: Here's what I want to know. You did the LSU 339 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: preview at the start of the year. Yeah, you did 340 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: the Old Miss preview of these two teams. Where where 341 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: are they relative to your expectations? 342 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Uh? Ole Miss is a little bit behind where I 343 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: thought they'd be. The game against Tulane was close, and 344 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: that's an impressive win all the same, even though it 345 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: was against the backup quarterback that Tulane was right there 346 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: late in that game and ole Miss. I think it 347 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: was a turnover late that made the score look a 348 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: little bit different than what the actual rhythm of the 349 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: game was. LSU's behind. I thought their defense would be better. 350 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: I thought they were going to be stronger upfront. They've 351 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: been allowing a lot on the ground, and we'll see 352 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: game plan wise, you know, they were. They seemed to 353 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: be more pass heavy than expected given that they have 354 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: Quinneawn Judkins ole Miss. So I think there could be 355 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: a steadier diet of him against LSU this week that 356 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: will help to open things up. So that's my hope 357 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: for a competitive game, that it's the whole plane is 358 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: built out of Quinchwn Judkins. 359 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: I feel like I need a therapist to help me 360 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: work through these old Miss thoughts. 361 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I do. 362 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: There's a lot of emotional baggage there. Ole Miss was 363 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: my original TCU. I don't know if you recall that way. 364 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: I do, of course, way back when we were younger 365 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: and full of life, and I didn't have the raising 366 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: the sides. As people on YouTube have pointed out, every 367 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: week I pop open our spreadsheets and every week I 368 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: feel like I invent reasons to pick ole Miss in 369 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: a big game. I did it last week. I took 370 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: them plus the points. 371 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: In that game right night game with bought Hemingway. 372 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, I did it last week too. You know 373 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Alabama's down, it's Tommy Reeves, maybe Tommy Reese's double agent. 374 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: They've got Jalen Milroe. They don't like all these things 375 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: that I told myself a week ago. None of it mattered. 376 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: They lost play fourteen. They barely scored. Right. When is 377 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: the last time we did a recap of ole Miss 378 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: in a big game and we were like, oh man, 379 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: oh man, did they overperform expectations? What was the last 380 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: time that happened? 381 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: Do you want going to look at their schedule? I 382 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: don't remember the old Miss off the top of my head. 383 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: I did. 384 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: I did luck Okay, I can't find one. I can't 385 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: find one. We do this show multiple times a week. 386 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: We've done it for fifteen years running, and there have 387 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: been moments in there, of course, But just in recent memory, 388 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: I can't think of a damn time when ole Miss 389 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: exceeded expectations in a big game. 390 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: Well, ole Miss beat number seven at the time, Kentucky 391 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: last year, right right around this time of year. 392 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna bring Kentucky out here. 393 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: They beat A and M on the road last year 394 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: fourteen Dan, I know eight and fourteen A and M. No. 395 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: Eight A and M. Last year was to not win 396 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: eight games five muscle memory. Excuse me right? I know 397 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: they faded, you know, after getting up on LSU last year, 398 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: and that was like the beginning of the end for 399 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: ole Miss. Last year. Ole Miss reads to me that 400 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: they're an inconsistent team and if they're gonna score ten 401 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: points in disappointing fashion last week, they're gonna look sharp 402 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: this week for whatever reason, and that's what makes them. 403 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: You're doing it too, You're doing it too. I know 404 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking myself into it. I am. I'm just not 405 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: gonna do it anymore. I'm not gonna do it anymore. 406 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: There's a saying about fool me once, for me twice whatever, 407 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: like I'm just not going there with old Miss. Every 408 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: time I do this to myself. I want to pick them. 409 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: I invent a way to pick them, and then they 410 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: let me down. So I'm gonna pick LSU. I'm gonna 411 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: pick LSU. I don't think the Old miss offensive line 412 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: is that good? And this is the kind of game 413 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: where I think that shows up. I think that shows 414 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: up against LSU. That's not to say ls's defense has 415 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: been baller. They haven't, but it's still. 416 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: Currently ninety eighth in points per drive aloud, and granted 417 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: that was a lot of Florida State, but even last 418 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: week against Arkansas. 419 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Now I'm on, I'm on LSU, and you'll hear more 420 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: about LSU and the pick segment later. 421 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: Okay, we disagree, disagree? Another big dog. 422 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Seven thirty ABC, Notre Dame minus five and a half, 423 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: coming off the loss, the home loss, the. 424 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: Home stomach punch. 425 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: If some have told me on Twitter, Nutkick lost to 426 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: Ohio State at the gun square. 427 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: Off against Duke. This is a big deal for the Duke. 428 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: He's got game day in town under the lights, two 429 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: weeks in a row for Notre Dame where they're under 430 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: the lights. They're also under the lights next week against 431 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Louisville and the week after against USC so late night 432 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: for the Notre Dame fans. You can make your jokes later. 433 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 434 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: I think what it means for us here, for the 435 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: purposes of this show, is that you will get a raw, 436 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: unfettered tie at least the next three weeks running mm hmm. 437 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: You and I disagree on this game too, Yeah, why 438 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: do you like Duke? 439 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: I think Duke is a good team, and now, look, 440 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: they haven't really played anybody since the Clemson matchup, and 441 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: I like to discount week one because week one is 442 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: a little bit all over the place for everyone. I 443 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: think I believe that they have a good defense. They've 444 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: been taking care of business once again, which I believe 445 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: to be underrated. I'm into quarterback, I'm into defense, and 446 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: in a letdown spot of letdown spots, provided Notre Dame 447 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: puts eleven guys on the field, I think it's just 448 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: an advantageous situation for Duke. I think the energy and 449 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: electricity will be there. It's still Duke, but I like 450 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: that combination. I like that situation. And we're still talking 451 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: about a Marcus Freeman as good as Sam Hartmon is, 452 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: and I think we'll continue to be. Sam Hartman throwing 453 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: into a good defense in a letdown spot with a 454 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: head coach who is fully able to lose to a 455 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: less talented team has shown that to be the case. 456 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Yes, he has. 457 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: I am, and I just I think Duke has a 458 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: coaching advantage in Mike elcho okay, and so give me 459 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: if you give me home coaching. Maybe quarterback is a 460 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: quarterback is probably a nod to Sam Hartman. Though I 461 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: don't Riley Leonard are really good defense. I think we 462 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: have two good defenses. Notre Dame is certainly more talented, 463 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: and I think as a higher ceiling. But there is 464 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: that home and letdown effect. To me, not that Notre 465 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: Dame is going to take Duke lightly game days there 466 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: it's a big deal. But I don't know. I just 467 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: I like the situation and I like the team in 468 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: that situation, so I'm going to do care. 469 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: I think when you say Riley Leonard you mean the 470 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Riley Leonard who will be on a bullet train to 471 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa as soon as the season is over. 472 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: Man, I hope not. I really really hope not. But look, 473 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: if Mike Elko leaves, I know his biot's crazy. I 474 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: just it do seems like one of those places where 475 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: it'd be tough to keep an excellent. 476 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: Player, one of those one of those trains in Japan 477 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: that goes like two hundred and fifty miles an hour 478 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: on the magnets. 479 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, on one of those Tuscalusa man, I mean, that'd 480 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: be awesome. I don't know if you've ever seen the 481 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: map of like what a potential high speed rail would 482 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: look like in the SEC Paragraphically, that's how they should 483 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: package it for as they expand to Norman and Austin. 484 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: It would be the most incredible experience, just a bunch 485 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: of SEC fans getting ripped on trains between Fayetteville and 486 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: Gainesville or something. The best you just in the way 487 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: that they're normally quiet cars on trains, there's just a 488 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: just a demolish, ripped car on that train. That that's 489 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: my TRIK. 490 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: Two hundred miles an hour, go wrong? Nothing, what could 491 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: go wrong? Yeah, I'm worried about Notre Dame after last week. 492 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm worried about a slugger start. I think the first 493 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: eight minutes of this game are going to be paramount 494 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: and how they look coming out of that loss. I 495 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: don't know how you can't get off to a sluggish start. 496 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: That was again, use whatever characterization you want. The stomach punched, 497 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: the nut kick, the punch in the teeth, I don't care. 498 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: It was tough and I got to believe the players 499 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: are feeling it as well, and Duke's going to be 500 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: fired up for this one. Duke's gonna be fired up 501 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: for this one. I am worried about Riley Leonard. He's 502 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: obviously very good. I'm fully expecting Duke to come out 503 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: and go on a long, sustained drive where they go 504 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: up seven zero in the first quarter. It's just going 505 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: to happen. That is going to happen in this game. 506 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: I do think though, that over the course of sixty minutes, 507 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's going to grind him down, and they're going 508 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: to do it up front and the same way they 509 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: did with NC State. Frankly, in the same way they 510 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: did with Ohio State. It's going to end up as 511 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: a similar styled game. It's going to take him a 512 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: order to get that ground game going. Once it does, 513 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: I think everything else starts working. This is not the 514 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State defense, this is Duke. Duke's a very good 515 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: defense with a very good coach. But the talent is 516 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: not the same. So you can move the ball, you 517 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: can score on Duke maybe unless you're Clemson. Just how 518 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: to get in there? Throw that in there. Notre Dame 519 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: needs do you think you can score on. Okay, Notre 520 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: Dame needs to win this game and they know it. 521 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: I think they bounce back. I think it's twenty eight 522 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: to seventeen. They beat the Dukies. 523 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: Okay, it's not a terrible pick. The only thing I 524 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: take exception to is like grinding down Ohio State. Did 525 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: they score a first half touchdown in that game? Like 526 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 2: they didn't prove much offensively against Ohio State Fair? No, Okay, 527 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: that's that's the only they proved. Here's what they proved. 528 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: They prove that what I have been saying the entire 529 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: season so far is not bs. That's what they proved. 530 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: What they proved is this is a team that needs 531 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: to get the ground game going so that it enables 532 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: the pass, which is how they've wanted to play all along. 533 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: It has not been the other way around. Sam Hartman 534 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: can do that, It can set up the pass. This 535 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: team is at its best when they get audric estimate going, 536 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: except apparently in the biggest moments of the game, which 537 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: is a conversation for last week. But they need to 538 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: get that side of things going first and established to 539 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: open up what I think they want to do offensively, 540 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: and it just sometimes has taken a while, but when 541 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: it does, it works, and I think it will work here. 542 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: All right, fair enough we disagree. 543 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: Final Big Dog, Mystery Dog, Friday Night Lights Man. 544 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good. This is a big game. 545 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: So look, usually we save these for the end because 546 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: people listen to this and we don't want it to 547 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: go stagnant and or stale or you know, expire. These 548 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: things have a time limit, and so that's why we 549 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: put the Thursday and the Friday games last. But this 550 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: one's big and we have to talk about it. 551 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: It's Friday night, and you get a lot of joy 552 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: Saturday morning listening to the show hearing us be wrong 553 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: with our picks about why why the hell right? 554 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: Why not just skip past it if you're listening to 555 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: this one Saturday morning, as a lot of people do. 556 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: Nine pm, Friday Night FS one. It's Utah at Oregon State. 557 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: Oregon State's a three and a half point favorite. Cam 558 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Rising reportedly splitting reps in practice with Nate Johnson. Still 559 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: no word if he'll be back, Like this is the 560 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: longest running saga we've had now forever. All I got 561 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: to say is this, he better not come back and stink. 562 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the l off cl cut him some 563 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: slack in core Llis. 564 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: I know, but there's been so much, so much steam 565 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: on Well, wait wait till Cam Rising gets back. What 566 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: if he gets back and he's just sort of like 567 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: Nate Johnson or break. 568 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be as fast as Nate Johnson. 569 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: No, he won't. 570 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: Where are you at with this game? I'm taking Oregon State. 571 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: Until I see Cam Rising in uniform look like Cam Rising, 572 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to assume that we don't have camp Rising 573 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: for Utah. I don't know when. I think their bye 574 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: week is in a couple of weeks. When is Utah's 575 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: bye week after this game? So maybe they want to 576 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: give it to him. I don't know. He's been practicing 577 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: and not cleared, so it's after this Oregon State game. 578 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: They get an extra long bye week because it's a 579 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: Friday night. You said Friday, not Thursday. Friday night. 580 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: Yep, the bye is after this week. Then they go 581 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: to cal and then USC in week eight. 582 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 2: Do you have any offensive touchdowns they scored against UCLA 583 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: last week? They scored one one. Utah scored one offensive touchdown, 584 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: which I think is incredible because they're undefeated, and they 585 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: have had basically no consistent quarterback play. Iowa gets a 586 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: lot of criticism, rightfully, So Iowa was scoring one point 587 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: six to two points per drive Utah without Cam Rising 588 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: one point six. Utah is slightly worse without Cam Rising 589 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: than Iowa is with their starter. I didn't I don't 590 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: know if that's a bigger criticism of Iowa or a 591 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: bigger CRIZ criticism of Utah. Yes, this is true, wow, 592 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: And so Utah doesn't have an offense. Andy Ludwig has 593 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: known for nine months that. I mean, you remember the 594 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: Baylor game. They were down what thirteen three, ten to 595 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: three for a chunk of that game. They were in 596 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: single digits for a chunk of that game. And so 597 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: if Cam Rising is fifty to fifty, I think Oregon 598 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: State can score seventeen or twenty points at home, raucous 599 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: atmosphere against a home team against the A ranked team. Yeah. 600 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Oregon State here until I see 601 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: Cam Rising and proof that this Utah offense has life, 602 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: because once again, they don't have receivers who can change anything. 603 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: They've won without it, but they've won with Cam Rising 604 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: in a Nate Johnson Bryce and Barnes type offense. They've 605 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: been god awful winning, but god awful on offense. So 606 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm going with Oregon State here. I think they can 607 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: win this game twenty one to thirteen. 608 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with you because I lost the silly 609 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: butterfly bat last week and I took Washington State, or 610 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: I took Oregon State over Washington State, and you warned 611 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: me against it. You called me a stilly little butterfly. Yeah, 612 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: it turns out I am the stilly little butterfly. I'm 613 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna stick with you on all things. Pack twelve if that's. 614 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Cool, that's okay. The thing that gives me grave concern, though, 615 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: is DJU against what I think is a very very 616 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: good defense, especially against Well. I was going to ask 617 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: you about that. 618 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that, because you know, 619 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: whatever last week was, last week was a good game 620 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: between Oregon State and WAZU to some extent, and you know, 621 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that on a different episode. But the 622 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: game before that, the footnote for us when we did 623 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: the midnight stream was that DJ you didn't look all 624 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: that good. 625 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: No, he didn't. He made like three to five pretty 626 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: terrible ill advised passes, and so I guess my question 627 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: is how confident are we that dju can go up 628 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: against this Utah defense. 629 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 630 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: The good news is Deshaun Fenwick, Damian Martinez, this offensive line, 631 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: like Oregon State doesn't win throwing the ball downfield under 632 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 2: Jonathan Smith. It can score points doing that. It can 633 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: generate big plays doing that, but it's all set up 634 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: in the run game. And so that's true. Utah's going 635 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: to stuff Oregon State a lot. I just I think 636 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: you need to score twenty points to beat Oregon State, 637 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: and I don't know if Utah has that capability with 638 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: Nate Johnson. 639 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: So Oregon State for me too, Oregon State for me. 640 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Let's agree. Okay, let's move on to the early window. 641 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Early window. 642 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: You maybe put off a little bit that we did 643 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: not include USC versus Colorado as one of our big dogs, 644 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: but it's a big point spread. 645 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: It's the earliest window for USC. 646 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a very very early game twelve pm 647 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: on Fox, nine am body clock. 648 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: For USC players yep, ten am Local and Boulder. USC is. 649 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Minus twenty one, minus twenty one and a half minus 650 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: twenty two depends where you look on the road at Colorado. 651 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: I gotta believe Fox is licking its chops here again 652 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: they get another Colorado game. Speaking of the Jesse Palmer 653 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: cartoon wolf thing that we called out on the last episode, 654 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: that is every Fox executive yes, of course, knowing that 655 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: they've got this one. This line actually went down. People 656 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: have been taking Colorado. I saw twenty four. I think 657 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: it broke around twenty four something like that earlier in 658 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: the week. So there's definitely some steam on Colorado in 659 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: this matchup. Not to say that they're going to win, 660 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: but perhaps given the body clock situation for USC, perhaps 661 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: given the fact that USC was too close for comfort, 662 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: let's say against Arizona State. Perhaps given the fact that 663 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: Colorado can score. I mean they at least were scoring 664 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: until they played Oregon a week ago. So there's a 665 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: reason there that I think people would take Colorado. I 666 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: don't know if I fully buy it, but three scores 667 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: is a lot. 668 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: That is a lot at home, three scores at home 669 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: with So this is USC playing late night in Tempe, 670 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: coming home late, and then getting too Boulder to play 671 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: a very early game. Like it's not a great advantage 672 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: for USC this portion of the schedule. As we head 673 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: into the very difficult back half of the schedule, so 674 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: Colorado licking its wounds after the loss against Oregon. I 675 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: think Colorado covers this game because I still think USC's 676 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: defense is vulnerable enough to give up points even in 677 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: a backdoor cover way, like US is just going to 678 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: score forty plus points every week, it seems. I don't 679 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: know if they're going to have a version of last 680 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: year's game in Corvallis in them this year, just because 681 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: I think they're that much better. I think they're a 682 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: little bit deeper on defense. I think they have more 683 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: ways to spread the ball around this year, with the 684 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: emergence of how they've been running the ball early on 685 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: against a whole bunch of nobody, of course, but I 686 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: think Colorado is going able to move the ball at 687 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: home better than they were in Eugene last week against 688 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: that kind of defense. So I'm going USC to win 689 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: this one. I don't know, forty to twenty four, forty 690 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: two to twenty four. I don't think they cover. Certainly 691 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: could get a back door once again, but I think 692 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: Sean Lewis is creative enough in the same way Kenny 693 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: Dillingham was creative enough last week to sort of manifest 694 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: points to play Mikesosha small ball. Whatever it takes, man. 695 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Colorado. Weird 696 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: body clock at home, with the wave of Buffalo's, with 697 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: Ralphie stomping onto the field. USC is gonna get theirs. 698 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: They're gonna walk away comfortably winning this game. But I 699 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: think there is going to be enough Colorado frenzy to 700 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: keep it within that number. Well, that's interesting. 701 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: I think the point that I would emphasize is that 702 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: Colorado's defense, Colorado's only defense. Maybe playing against a bad offense. Okay, 703 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: they are just not good on that side of the ball. 704 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's okay, right. They were one 705 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: and eleven last year. It was the story of the 706 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: year when they got Deon Sanders. It's been the story 707 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: of the year thus far. 708 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: They just think, think about Colorado. It's just like a 709 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: frisky pack twelve team, just a frisky team, a good 710 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: haallfield not playing defense. 711 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: It's still a great story, and good on Dion and 712 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: good on the program. They are trending in a very 713 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: very good direction. I am rooting for them. I have 714 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: loved Deon Sanders ever since. He was a thing when 715 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: I was younger, So I'm not rooting actively against his 716 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: charter school. Then continue, well, right, let me address something else. Yeah, 717 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter did not play last week. Travis 718 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: Hunter is not playing this week. Deon said he's not playing. 719 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter said he's not taking no for an answer. 720 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Dion said, you're still not playing. So he is not 721 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: going to be part of this game. One thing that 722 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: I have seen rather prevalently out there on the interwebs 723 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: is this notion that, well, if Travis Hunter would have 724 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: played against Oregon, that game would have looked a lot differently. 725 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: I didn't see it from anybody that I considered to 726 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: be a smart college football thinker. Yeah, so you know, 727 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: like maybe the win should have an asterisk by it 728 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: because Travis Hunter wasn't. 729 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: Didn't see it from anybody I care. 730 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: If Travis Hunter would have been in this game, it 731 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: will been forty two to thirteen. 732 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: So stop. I think if Travis Hunter were in this game, 733 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: it's forty two to six. 734 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: It does, it's I don't think it has any huge 735 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: impact whatsoever. I just think Colorado is building and he's 736 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: a dynamic player. I'd love to see him out there. 737 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: It sucks that he's hurt, but I don't think it 738 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: really has that huge of an impact. I think USC 739 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: is winning this game comfortably. I think they're winning this game. 740 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: I think they're covering the spread. I think they're going 741 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: to hammer Colorado because all of these coaches, deep down, 742 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: and Lincoln Riley is no better. All of them have 743 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: egos the size of Montana, and Lincoln Riley wants to 744 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: score more points than Dan Lanning. Okay, and so yeah, 745 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: there's a body clock situation, but there's al Roto also 746 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: a Colorado defense situation that's going to give of USC 747 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: ample opportunity to score points to win this one. 748 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,959 Speaker 2: Big lock. 749 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: Wow, fifty two to twenty one. Okay, fifty two to 750 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: twenty one. USC wins in resounding fashion. 751 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 2: Okay, we disagree. This is this is a second after 752 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 2: you said I just trust you with pack twelve picks. 753 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I know I realized that. 754 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's okay. No, I like that you're standing there. 755 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: That's good. 756 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock ABC, Clemson minus seven at Syracuse. Man, I've 757 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: got some crazy Syracuse stats. If you're ready for him? 758 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: Is it? 759 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: Does it involve Rocky longs vaunted three three, five it 760 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: it Well, we'll get there with it. Dino Babers and 761 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: his love for all things Rocky Long, Rocky Long family tree, 762 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: and then getting Rocky Long and now Syracuse being like 763 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 2: the number nine team in the country in terms of 764 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: points per drive allowed. Is that what the number is? 765 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 2: It's something really low, like that really high. 766 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So basically the next three weeks of the 767 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: entire season for Syracuse, Yeah, they've got this week, They're 768 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: at North Carolina at Florida State. Over the next two weeks, 769 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: all three of those games project as one score games, 770 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 1: and then they're favored comfortably the rest of the way 771 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: by a percentage. Just by a percentage calculation, there is 772 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: a sixty nine percent chance that Syracuse finishes with nine 773 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: or more wins this season. I don't buy it, but 774 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: I don't either, but just say it, just saying the 775 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: computers right now, like Syracuse. This Clemson game, in particular, 776 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: has been a one score game the last two seasons 777 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,479 Speaker 1: and three of the last five. To me, it feels 778 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: like a nightmare scenario for Clemson going on the road 779 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: a week after the home overtime loss against your biggest 780 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: conference rival, and you're in a weird place. 781 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 2: Like the JMA Wireless Dome, the Carrier Dome. It's a 782 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: weird place toward James go to Dad. It's a weird place, right, Yeah, 783 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, it's a weird place. 784 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: So for that reason, the Yakers home dog of the week, 785 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: Nice Eccuse is my home dog, man, They're my home dog. 786 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: Syracuse is forcing teams to go three and out. Now, 787 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: the best two teams they've played, I believe are purduing Army. 788 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: So they're forcing teams to go three and out forty 789 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: four percent of the time. That's eighth best in the country. 790 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: They're preventing big plays again, purduing Army, Graham Harrell and 791 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 2: the option basically better than anybody in the country. They 792 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 2: are moving the ball even when they're not scoring, they're 793 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: moving the ball. I just the underlying numbers about Syracuse 794 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: mostly taking care of business with a difficult place to 795 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 2: play with an improved defense. We think Connor Wegman throwing 796 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: into a confusing defense with no real star receivers. I 797 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: like this pick. I do. 798 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Now QS is without Aronda Gaston, which sucks 799 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: for the year. That sucks, But I think that's put 800 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: more emphasis on Garrett s Trader. It has enabled him 801 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: to morph back into Garrett Shredder, the beloved Garrett Shredder. 802 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: On this show. 803 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: I can only imagine Dino Baber's watching the tape from 804 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: Briley Leonard against Clemson and saying. 805 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 2: May, let's just do that. 806 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: May we just do that. We'll do that with we 807 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: have a guy who can do that. He is their 808 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: leading rusher. He's gonna be a threat in this game. 809 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite as good as Riley Leonard, 810 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: but similar enough in this game. The other thing, and 811 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to get two out over my skis. 812 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: You know I have a tendency to do that. Okay, 813 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: but you're right. They played Colgate, Western, Michigan, Purdue, and Army. 814 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: Not exactly a who's who of offenses. Okay, granted I 815 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: don't know, but you're right. The opponent adjusted numbers on 816 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: defense are so strong. It has not lost to me 817 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: the rocky long connection here. Nobody should be surprised if 818 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: Syracuse takes a jump forward on defense, and it has 819 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: the early trappings of maybe them doing just that. I've 820 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: got Syracuse to my home dog. We've got Syracuse outright, baby, 821 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: let's get nuts, Let's get nuts, Let's go twelve and 822 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: oh Syracuse twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty nine, twenty eight. 823 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: Here's what happens. I'm already picking all these games wrong. 824 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: What difference does it make? Okay, twenty nine, twenty eight, 825 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: A last second Garrett Shredder touchdown, Dino says, we're at home. 826 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: We're going for two in the win, twenty nine to 827 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight. That's how it happens. 828 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: And also, if it is close, and if it does 829 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: come down to it, which you very may will, Clemson's 830 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: kicking game now an open question. 831 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, okay, Okay. A couple other games here that 832 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: I'll just call out as part of this early block. 833 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: We got Texas A and M minus six and a 834 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: half against Arkansas. News broke shortly before we hit the 835 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: go button today that Connor Wagman is done for the year. 836 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is. 837 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: A freaking bummer. This is a neutral site game. I 838 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: should add it is at at and T Stadium in Arlington. 839 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: Possible letdown for Arkansas. They had the LSU game last week. 840 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: Possible look ahead for A and M with Bama on deck. 841 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't really apply, but I'll play. 842 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: It, which I'm so hungry. 843 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm so hungry, sort of the double open faced, let down, 844 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: look ahead sandwich situation. Also, Rocket Sanders still out for 845 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: Arkansas A and M is favored by six and a half. 846 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: You got a quick lean here. 847 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: I think Arkansas just because of the quarterback situation. And 848 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: also I just like taking points into a bonkers like 849 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 2: matchup that we seem to get every year. So I'm 850 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 2: taking points with Arkansas neutral fields. I just if I 851 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 2: were to bet actual money on this game. The Max 852 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: Johnson factor scares me. I know this A and M 853 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: offense has taken steps forward, but even like in good 854 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 2: games like we've seen recently, they'll just look flat for 855 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 2: a half. And so I'm going with the better quarterback 856 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 2: on a neutral field. And I don't love the pick, 857 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 2: but I like the fight I've seen out of Arkansas, 858 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: even with really an off defensive line. That's the matchup 859 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: that probably most worries me, the Arkansas offensive line against 860 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: Texas A and M upfront. But yet I'm still going 861 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 2: Hogs here because I don't know if I have the 862 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 2: trust in Max Johnson. 863 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: And it looked better when he came in last week. 864 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: They look good. 865 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: They look good, and every announcer is going to play 866 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: up the Max Johnson Jake Johnson brotherly connection, which is 867 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: a developing fantasy thing mid season. Now. I like Johnson 868 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: and Johnson. I like A and m thirty one twenty one. 869 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with A and. 870 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: M amm here all right at at and T Stadium. 871 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: The only other one that I wanted to mention because 872 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: sometimes there is weirdness with this game. Big ten Network, 873 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: kayun Penn State minus twenty seven at Northwestern. I'm assuming 874 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: you'll be there tailgating all day, all morning, right. 875 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: All day, yeah, all night after the fact, dancing in 876 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: the streets with the purple wearing cardiac kids. Now, I 877 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 2: think I think Penn State it's a I mean, kind 878 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: of a letdown spot for Northwestern. I don't know how 879 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: how many people were expecting them to make that comeback 880 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: and win that game, but no, this is the type 881 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: of game where Penn States should be able to go 882 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: straight at them. I know this game was quite strange 883 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 2: last year, like the windiest day of the year in 884 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: State College. It was like an odd day always just 885 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 2: there's always with Pennsylvania weather, just in general, you guys, 886 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 2: it's Pennsylvania and Oklahoma. It's weird. It seems like very 887 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 2: violent all of the time in some direction. And we 888 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: may we'll talk to Tim Buckley, I guess about it. Yeah, yeah, 889 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 2: I think the weather should be quite nice on the 890 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: north shore of Chicago this weekend, so I'm gonna go 891 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 2: penn State big, like forty five to thirteen. 892 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I agree. Let's get to the afternoon block. 893 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: If we can't Georgia at Auburn three point thirty cbs, 894 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: the Deep South's oldest rivalry, we throw out the records 895 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: in rivalry, but we also have to look at advanced stats. 896 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: We have to look at those, and I had to 897 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: look at those a little bit more intently because this 898 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: line is only fourteen and a half in favor of Georgia. Now, 899 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: perhaps the soucasta situation, Perhaps Georgia makes it a me 900 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: costa situation. I don't know, But fourteen and a half. 901 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: Did that line give you cause for pause? 902 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh absolutely it did. And I think the line 903 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 2: exists where it does because of some of the flashes 904 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: that Auburn has shown on defense. And the concern, obviously 905 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 2: is what Auburn does when it has the ball. But 906 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: if you were to take each season independently, once again, 907 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: it's its own, living, breathing thing. What exactly has Georgia 908 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 2: done this year against a medium profile opponent, a high 909 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: profile opponent, a decent opponent. They looked pretty odd and 910 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 2: off in that first half against South Carolina before overwhelming 911 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler and pulling ahead comfortably in that game. And 912 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: that's kind of it in terms of what we've seen 913 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 2: from Georgia that's been impressive a half against what is 914 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: probably an average SEC team, And so I think at 915 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: this point Auburn might be thrilled to be called average 916 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 2: with how they've looked on offense for large stretches of 917 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: this season. And even still, I really did think about 918 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: taking Auburn and the points to slow this game down, 919 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 2: you know, to have a Georgia offense that has not 920 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 2: looked like itself under Mike Bobo. But also I just 921 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 2: think there are too many ways for Georgia to win 922 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: because I know who's on this team. See he still 923 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 2: believe in their ceiling. 924 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: And that's where I get hung up. I was thinking, like, 925 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: do I want to take Carson beck first big SEC 926 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: road game in a rivalry. 927 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's a legitimate concern. 928 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: But I came back to that as well. I really 929 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: did Auburn's You know what Auburn's postgame win expectancy was 930 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: in that game against A and M. What zero? 931 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a meaty goose egg. 932 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: It was zero. Their defense is solid, and I think 933 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: you're right that's the reason for this line, but the 934 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: offense is in shambles. Peyton Thorn is getting sacked about 935 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: one out of every nine times he drops back. An 936 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: extremely interesting stat that you wouldn't expect is also that 937 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: Georgia is not getting pressure so far this season. I 938 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: can rattle off that stat. 939 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 2: Well, the second half of that game against South Carolina 940 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 2: they were overwhelming expense. They were, but that's one stretch. 941 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's one stretch, and that's against a really 942 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: bad line, which they've got here. And I'm curious to 943 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: see if that trend continues now as they square off 944 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: against Auburn, because they're they're gonna need to do more 945 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 1: of it against better lines the deeper they get into 946 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: this schedule, and the stats so far are are pointing 947 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: to that's a place where they need to improve. I 948 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: think they will, but I need to see more than 949 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: just a half here. They're near the bottom of FBS 950 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: teams on a per play basis right now. I don't 951 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: know if it all matters much here. It could against 952 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: the team like Missouri. It certainly could against Ole, miss 953 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: against Tennessee, maybe even Kentucky. But I don't think any 954 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: of what I'm describing here on the Georgia side is 955 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: caused for Pau's favorite pet charity in this matchup. So 956 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Georgia and Carson Beck's first road game. 957 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: The line is concerning, though. The line to me is 958 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: a red flag, and it feels like Vegas knows something 959 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't. 960 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: No. 961 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: I mean, look, if it's a frisky defense at home 962 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 2: and a rivalry game, that's generally a spot where I'm 963 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 2: just like take it. Just take those points, right if 964 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: it's into the double digits, especially if we don't exactly 965 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: know what one of the teams is this year in Georgia. 966 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: But I just have to see a little bit more 967 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 2: life from this Auburn offense. So I have it like 968 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 2: thirty four to thirteen Georgia. I've got a bunch of 969 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 2: quick mentions here. Quick mentions you can tell me which 970 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: games are of interest to you which are not. I 971 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: think some folks might contend that this is the window 972 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 2: of opportunity if you want me to play it. 973 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: I can. 974 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 2: Debatable. 975 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: All this stuff is debatable, Okay, But if you're gonna 976 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: go out there, be amongst the people, maybe go to 977 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 1: junior soccer game, go see cats, catch a Mattinee showing 978 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday. This one might be the time for you. 979 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, grab a nap. 980 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: Misszoo minus thirteen at Vandy. We've got Michigan minus seventeen 981 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 1: and a half at Nebraska. It's a big wine. We've 982 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: got Illinois at Purdue Perdue favored by one, Indiana at 983 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: Maryland Maryland minus fourteen. We've got Houston at Texas Tech 984 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: minus eight and a half for the Red Raiders UCF 985 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: and eleven and a half point home favored against Baylor 986 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 1: cal A twelve and a half point home favorite against 987 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: Arizona State. Georgia Tech favored by three scores over Bowling Green. 988 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: We've got Boise State in Memphis in a really good 989 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: game in Memphis, Memphis favored by three and a half points. 990 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: And then what figures to be a horrible game on 991 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: the c dub Virginia on the road at Boston College. 992 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: The Eagles favored by three and a half points. 993 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I like Vandy here at home. I think it's 994 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 2: a look ahead spot or even a letdown look ahead 995 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: spot for Miszoo after last week's win. I think they 996 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 2: have LSU coming up correct, so I think it's a 997 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 2: Soucosta situation for the Doors. I think they're able to 998 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 2: keep this one reasonably close. I have Michigan covering against 999 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 2: Nebraska because it just smells of a defensive score or 1000 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 2: two right, just throwing it into the Michigan secondary. I 1001 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be look a lot like what the 1002 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 2: Rutgers matchup looked like last week. Maybe Nebraska scores early 1003 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 2: on with Heinrich the play starting in this game double h. Otherwise, yeah, 1004 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 2: there's not a like a lot to like about this 1005 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 2: Nebraska offense. And to cover in eighteen points spread against Michigan, 1006 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 2: you probably need to score thirteen points, and I don't 1007 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 2: even know if I see that happening. I have Purdue 1008 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 2: covering against Illinois because they're the home team. I have 1009 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 2: no other reason, literally no other reasons. 1010 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: I got a message about this I'm making this one 1011 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: of my picks of the week. I'll make eric On 1012 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 1: for Bowlers dot Com. 1013 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,439 Speaker 2: I know I understand eric On, Purdue fan. 1014 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: Eric On for Ballers dot Com has been sending us 1015 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: weekly Purdue updates, and he is passionate, passionate about the 1016 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: fact that you do not take Purdue the week after 1017 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin game. 1018 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: I understand this. I remember that, and I thought about this. 1019 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 2: Illinois has been very bad this year, turnover prone, defense 1020 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 2: has been disappointing. I'm just not in on Illinois on 1021 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 2: the road, and Purdue's got to win one of these. 1022 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 2: Even though I don't like Purdue and I don't like 1023 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 2: Graham Harrell, I have Indiana covering against Maryland. Indiana good 1024 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 2: or bad, keeps it closer. They've been covering spreads this year. 1025 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: We saw them give Ohio State some fight, even though 1026 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 2: the score it doesn't make it seem like they had 1027 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 2: a lot of offensive fight in that one. But I 1028 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 2: don't think they started Tavin Jackson in that game. There 1029 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 2: was a Brandon Brendan doors By game. So I'm going 1030 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: Indiana to keep it relatively close. Marylyn wins Is won 1031 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty one or something. Like that, and 1032 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: the Hoosiers cover Texas Tech, I have covering against Houston. Yeah, 1033 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be able to run Tyler shuck 1034 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: out for the year after the injury he suffered early 1035 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: on against West. 1036 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: Virginia cannot catch a break. 1037 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 2: I still think they're gonna be able to run on Houston, 1038 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 2: and I'm just out on Houston at this moment. Yeah. 1039 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: I like UCF comfortably against Baylor in the Bounce House 1040 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: in Orlando, so I'm going even it's still I think 1041 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: it's still what Timmy McClain for UCF with John Ree's 1042 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 2: plumbley out longer, but Baylor's shown almost nothing this time. 1043 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: Baylor might be done, zo Man. 1044 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: Baylor might just be done. 1045 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 3: Zoe. 1046 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 2: What has cal done to earn a twelve and a 1047 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 2: half point spread? So full disclosure. 1048 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at putting together our creatively named 1049 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: parlay and this week. I was initially gonna build it 1050 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: around alternate lines with teams in California. 1051 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. 1052 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: I had in my head the California Love podcast or 1053 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: coffin you Love California Love Parlay not podcast, maybe the 1054 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: podcast exists. And I got to USC and I got 1055 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: to Fresno. I love Fresno in their game against Nevada, 1056 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: and I was gonna go Cal minus. I was gonna 1057 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: move that point spread down five points. And then I'm 1058 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: looking at it, I'm thinking, do I really want to 1059 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: do that? I have a hard enough time winning that parlay. 1060 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: Do I really want to bet Cal here against Arizona State? 1061 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: Arizona State showed a lot of fight last week against USC, 1062 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: even with Drew Pine or whoever's playing quarterback. Do I 1063 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: really want to do that with Cal? And then I 1064 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: came to the same conclusion as you, really, twelve and 1065 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: a half points. I've been high on Cal and I'm 1066 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: not that high on Cal, So twelve and a half 1067 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: to me feels like maybe not a great play. 1068 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 2: Here's the alt take, ty, because you're saying alt lines 1069 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 2: here a big day for allt lines. The all take 1070 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 2: is ASU has absolutely deserved being twelve point twelve and 1071 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 2: a half point dogs. If you watch the tape on 1072 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 2: that Fresno game, they lose that game twenty nine to nothing. Yeah, 1073 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 2: so ASU has earned it. But I'm gonna need to 1074 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: see it from Cal before I feel good about a 1075 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 2: double digit favorite in the conference for the California Golden 1076 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 2: Bears next one that you mentioned in that window, after 1077 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: ASU Cal Oh. I like Georgia Tech big. I like 1078 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 2: Boston College at home. It's a Tony Musket game for Virginia, 1079 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: I believe, and I think I like that. 1080 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: Going against a guy named Musket on the Cavaliers. 1081 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to go against a guy named Musket because 1082 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: you need a certain amount of bravery. And I like 1083 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 2: Memphis comfortably against Boise State at home. 1084 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Vandy play. I think Miszoo is 1085 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: prone to let downs, look aheads, I like Michigan. I'm 1086 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: gonna go Illinois, gonna stand in solidarity with our guy 1087 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: Eric out On for Baller dot Com, I will go 1088 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: Indiana as well. I will take Texas Tech like UCF, 1089 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: I will. I will go with Cal minus the number 1090 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, don't. I don't know why it's there, 1091 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: but for S S and g's yea, why not taking 1092 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech big. Let's go Tony Musket in Virginia? Why not? 1093 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 2: And the offensive line the defense they keep losing? I know, Oh, 1094 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 2: is that rhetorical? 1095 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Memphis as well. Let's get to our nightcap. Okay, 1096 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: if we could, let's do it. 1097 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 2: Let's go to. 1098 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 1: South Carolina at Tennessee. Tennessee also twelve and a half 1099 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: point favorite weird line. It's a weird line to me. 1100 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: Anytime you get twelve and a half, that's odd SEC network. 1101 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: The South Carolina stat profile is amazing. It is an 1102 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: amazing stat profile. If I don't say so myself. They 1103 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: are pretty much the least deficient defense in Power five. 1104 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: They're one hundred and twenty ninth in the nation at 1105 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: forcing three and outs. On offense, they can't block, they 1106 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: can't run, they get sacked ten percent of the times 1107 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: they drop back. And still they beat Mississippi State last 1108 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: week and only lost to Georgia by ten two weeks ago. 1109 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: So what that tells me is they're wildly inconsistent in 1110 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: all of the spots that are supposed to matter. But 1111 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: they're balling out for Shane Biemer and they are building 1112 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot around whatever Spencer Ratler can give them on offense. 1113 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about Tennessee. We think of Josh Hypel, 1114 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: We think of him airing it out with Hndon Hooker, 1115 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 1: a couple NFL receivers, blah blah blah, This offense this 1116 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: year is geared more around the run with Jalen Wright 1117 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: and Jabari Small and Dylan Sampson. That was not not 1118 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 1: the case last year. They were good at running the 1119 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: football as well. But I think when people thought of 1120 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee they thought of the aerial attack. This year it 1121 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: is leaning more heavily on the ground game than it 1122 00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: is the arm of Joe Milton, and probably rightfully, Joe 1123 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: Milton's running even Joe Milton's running exactly, so that's where 1124 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: they've had more success. I actually think that plays to 1125 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina's advantage because South Carolina is not much in 1126 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: the way of a defense either. But of all the 1127 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: things that South Carolina can stop, the rush is mainly 1128 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: among them. That is the main thing that they can. 1129 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 2: Mainly among them. 1130 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I got you know how it is. 1131 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 1132 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: You talk yourself into a corner. I've got South Carolina 1133 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: plus the number only barely. I got thirty one to 1134 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: twenty Tennessee wins at home. 1135 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. The element that I think you neglected is, so 1136 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 2: you said, South Carolina's had a really tough time protecting 1137 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler. Right, the number one team in terms of 1138 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 2: sack rate is Tennessee. I think it's stack rate on 1139 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 2: standard downs, not necessarily passing downs. But you can verify that, 1140 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 2: or somebody can verify that for me. Yeah, it is 1141 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 2: standard down sack right, twelve and a half percent of 1142 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 2: the time. 1143 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: It's so it's so bad. 1144 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 2: Drop back eighth in the country. 1145 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 1: That is so bad for So I just want to 1146 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: in this game. 1147 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 2: I think that that sort of crossover that ven diagram 1148 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 2: is you staring through the window of a Pennsylvania bakery 1149 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 2: as those tomato pies are coming out of the just 1150 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 2: nose pressed against and getting real steamy. It's just a 1151 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 2: beautiful matchup. So I have Tennessee winning this game comfortably 1152 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: in Nelands at night, right, So yeah, I'm worried. 1153 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: Okay, nine pm ESPN Bama minus fourteen and a half 1154 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. Big big game at home form Mississippi State. 1155 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: I think we know a fair amount about their defense 1156 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: at this point because they played three top thirty offenses 1157 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: in Arizona, LSU, and South Carolina. South Carolina is playing 1158 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: pretty good offense right now. Despite all of what I 1159 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: just mentioned. In all three of those cases, Mississippi State 1160 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: struggled against the pass, but more quietly against a quarterback 1161 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: with wheels. Yes, a dude who can run that, my friends. That, 1162 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: my friends is Tommy Reeves music. Tommy Reeves knows how 1163 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: to work with that. So I think you get ready 1164 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: for one hundred yards on the ground for Jalen Milroe. 1165 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: That you're going to use more designed runs for Jalen Milroe, 1166 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: not the scrambling, but they're going to actually use that 1167 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: to offset some of their issues in the passing game 1168 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: and get him a little bit more comfortable. Mississippi State 1169 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: in their own right is fascinating, not just on defense, 1170 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 1: but on the offensive side as well, because the entire 1171 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 1: narrative in the preseason was well, we're going to move 1172 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: away from the air raid. We're going to go into 1173 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: more of a balanced offensive set. And they tried that 1174 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: for three weeks and then last week they were like, 1175 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 1: may well just let Will Rogers throw it fifty times. 1176 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 2: They were just you know, like, we know that works. 1177 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: They able to just stick with that and they were better. 1178 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 1: They were better last week. I think this is right 1179 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: around the number I think i'ma wins, something like thirty 1180 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: three seventeen, So I think they cover. But I think 1181 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: It's another week where Mississippi State looks better on offense 1182 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: even in defeat. This time. 1183 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a Sucasa moment for me because all 1184 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 2: elements point to Alabama in this one winning comfortably. But 1185 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 2: the fact that it's at night in Starkville, it worries me. 1186 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 2: The thing that worries me even more though, is Mississippi 1187 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 2: State's defense, which is plenty reason for Mississippi State to 1188 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 2: be considered at or near the bottom of the SEC 1189 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 2: this year. They'ree hundred and first in points allowed per drive. 1190 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 2: They are fortunate to have a win against an FBS 1191 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 2: team in Arizona. Otherwise it would just be what Southeast 1192 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 2: Louisiana as their win. And so I think this is 1193 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 2: a Mississippi State team that is searching and it's the 1194 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 2: right matchup at the right time for Alabama. I have 1195 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 2: them comfortably winning. I have at thirty seven to seventeen. 1196 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: Other games here in the night slash evening window Oregon 1197 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: your orgon ducts S thirty Eastern and PAC twelve Network 1198 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: minus twenty seven on the road at Stanford seven PMFS one. 1199 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: We've got Iowa State at Oklahoma. Oklahoma favored by nearly 1200 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: three scores twenty points seven point thirty on Peacock. It 1201 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: is Michigan State at Iowa. Iowa favored another team favored 1202 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: by twelve and a half. It's a big number this week. 1203 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: True eight pm ACC Network. Oh God, don't watch this game, Pitt. 1204 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 2: I would have said that about Michigan State Iowa on. 1205 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Pit minus two and a half on the road at 1206 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Which game would you rather watch, Michigan State, 1207 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Iowa or Pitt Virginia Tech. 1208 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh, Pitt Virginia Tech. Really, I think there's something entertaining 1209 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 2: about Pitt's offense, even when it's going poorly. I don't 1210 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: think there's anything entertaining about what Michigan State and Iowa 1211 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 2: are doing. Just overall, I do love watching Iowa's defense. 1212 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 2: It is something to behold, just because why would you 1213 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 2: try so hard when it's clear that the coaches coaching 1214 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 2: the other side of the ball are not One eight 1215 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 2: pm ESPN two. 1216 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: Also to close things out here, West Virginia a twelve 1217 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: point dog on the road at TCU. 1218 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 2: Okay. I think Oregon covers because I think it's easy 1219 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 2: to cover against Stanford if you can move the ball 1220 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 2: on the ground. And I think they'll be able to. 1221 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 2: I think Arizona struggled last week. Maybe that was a 1222 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 2: look ahead spot and we'll get there. Arizona Washington, I 1223 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 2: believe is PAC twelve after dark this week. I'm true, 1224 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 2: so it may have been a look ahead spot. Given Stanford, 1225 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 2: it's pretty disappointing results getting just destroyed by USC and 1226 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 2: losing the Sack State. I think Oregon heading into the 1227 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 2: bye week. I think it's a bye week after and 1228 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 2: then they get Washington. I think the big thing is 1229 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 2: they're going to call off the dogs relatively early against 1230 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Stanford if they have a big lead, So maybe there 1231 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 2: is backdoor cover potential. But Stanford's a mess this year 1232 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 2: and that's going to continue. I have Iowa State covering 1233 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 2: against Oklahoma. Sorry, did you want to jump in out 1234 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 2: of Stanford? 1235 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Continue? Continue? 1236 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 2: Iowa State's defense chokes Oklahoma enough to keep this within reason, 1237 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 2: even though I'm not. And these are your words and 1238 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 2: your texting me all week and last weekend rock hard 1239 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: for rocke Becks. I don't. I'll have to have somebody 1240 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 2: explain that reference to me. I don't get it, but 1241 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 2: that's a you thing. 1242 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't think October coming up. 1243 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Rock tober. I don't think Iowa State's offense will continue 1244 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 2: to be what it looked like against Oklahoma State, though 1245 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,919 Speaker 2: it is a step in the right direction. Oklahoma wins 1246 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 2: this one by ten to thirteen points, low scoring twenty 1247 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 2: to seven, twenty one to ten. Somewhere in there, I 1248 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 2: have Iowa beating Michigan State because Iowa still fields the 1249 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 2: strongest thing in this game, and they can't absolutely score 1250 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 2: two touchdowns on defense and even outscore their own offense 1251 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 2: and win this game twenty one to seven. So I 1252 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 2: have Iowa there Pitt. I just think Pitt is better, 1253 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 2: and I don't even think Pitt is that good than 1254 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 2: West than Virginia Tech. 1255 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: That's mean, that's mean. 1256 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 2: What did I say that you object to though that 1257 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: you disagree with? 1258 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing. I just think it was not rock card 1259 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: for rock Oback. I object to that. But this game, no. 1260 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 2: All of these techs, it wouldn't stop coming in last weekend. 1261 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to screencap doose to prove it. 1262 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've sent them to Mama h for further 1263 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 2: analysis investing by the League office. I have TCU over 1264 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 2: West Virginia just because I don't know. I think TCU 1265 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 2: is rounding into form a little bit more, even though 1266 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 2: they're not bombing it downfield like they did last year. 1267 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 1268 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 2: I like how they've been running. I like Jared Wiley. 1269 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 2: It's still a backup quarterback for West Virginia on the road, 1270 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 2: and so I think it's a nice situational play for 1271 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 2: TCU at night against the Ears. Otherwise, I mean, I 1272 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: have the list of games in the night window. Nothing 1273 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,959 Speaker 2: else is really jumping out to me. What do you think? 1274 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've got Oregon minus whatever. The Oklahoma 1275 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 1: game is interesting, and you know, I mean, maybe it's 1276 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: not lost on people who follow Iowa or Iowa State. 1277 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: An interesting battle of dueling half teams right now in 1278 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the state of Iowa, between two offenses that are terrible 1279 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: and two defenses that are top ten. I think Oklahoma 1280 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: should be fine here because Iowa stated I don't think 1281 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: can score, and I do think the Oklahoma defense is better, but. 1282 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 2: I do do you think the Iowa State defense is? 1283 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 2: I see, I think they're good enough that they just 1284 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 2: won't lose to anybody by twenty. 1285 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's entirely possible. What I'm most curious in it's 1286 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: something that I said on the midnight stream. I am 1287 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: curious to see what Dylan Gabriel looks like against a 1288 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 1: legitimately good defense a week before the Texas game. 1289 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a look ahead spot, in a. 1290 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Look ahead spot, but I'm inclined to Oklahoma here minus 1291 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: the number. I'm with you on Iowa. I think Michigan 1292 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: State's done zo. I'll go Virginia Tech at home. I'm 1293 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: not watching this game. Somebody out on our discord is 1294 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 1: going to have to let me know. 1295 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 2: Well, you put the parental controls on your TV so 1296 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 2: that you don't accidentally flip to it. I don't even 1297 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 2: think YouTube wants to let you see this game if 1298 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 2: they've turned it down. 1299 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: This is a pay per view situation. 1300 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, YouTube, YouTube TV has alerted ESPN the like actually 1301 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 2: just for this week, and we're not carrying the ACC network. 1302 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 2: We're changing our carriage laws. Okay, not a sponsor. 1303 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Could be and I'm with you on TCU. I like 1304 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: that pick a lot actually, thank you. And finally, the 1305 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: PAC twelve after Dark window, if we could play it. 1306 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I have a sound as 1307 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 1: play this again? 1308 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 2: Do I have what do I have on my soundboard? 1309 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,479 Speaker 2: Do I have anything that I could hear? How about 1310 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 2: this? This is a seductive right a little bit? 1311 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh wow? Pack twelve after mysterious ten pm PAC twelve network, 1312 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: Washington minus eighteen on the road in Tucson against Arizona. 1313 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 3: Dan. 1314 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've also got Fresno minus twenty four and a 1315 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: half against Nevada. Nevada is horrible. I think we'll come 1316 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: back to this one on the Keen Cast as we 1317 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: call it late night whenever they play the late kick 1318 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: and we talk up Fresno. So I'm with Fresno. But 1319 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: sooner or later, somebody's gonna cover against Washington, right, yes, 1320 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 1: sooner or later it's gonna happen. You know, it needs 1321 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: to be a team that can score. 1322 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 2: Arizona might be the team. 1323 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm going Cats plus eighteen Washington wins, but Cats plus 1324 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 1: eighteen all right. 1325 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 2: I have Fresno as my lock of the week. Oh yes, 1326 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 2: blunck of the week. 1327 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: I like that. 1328 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 2: I like that play. Nevada is zero to four. They 1329 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 2: lost by fifty to usc They lost by twenty seven 1330 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,160 Speaker 2: to Idaho. Yeah, shout out Vandals. But to Idaho they 1331 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 2: lose reasonably close. To Kansas. They lose to Texas State 1332 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 2: we might be talking about the worst team in FBS 1333 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 2: football in Nevada right now. So I'm going Fresno enormous, 1334 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 2: like thirty five seven, forty two to three, something crazy 1335 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 2: like that. I have Arizona covering at home against Washington 1336 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 2: in the Desert. I'm just telling you, I root for 1337 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 2: a Pacific Northwest team. I've rooted for that team with 1338 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 2: a lot of hype behind it for many years. And 1339 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 2: the scar tissue I have for the Pacific Northwest for 1340 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 2: my own team with hype heading into Tucson is real. 1341 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 2: So it is the clear quarterback that Washington will play, 1342 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,439 Speaker 2: even though maybe he should have been bench last week 1343 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 2: against Stanford. I understand all of this. I think it 1344 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 2: is going to be an electric atmosphere in the Desert. 1345 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 2: I think Washington will comfortably win, but I think this 1346 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: will be enough of a game. As we saw last year, 1347 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 2: this game I think was like within reach for Arizona 1348 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 2: very late. I'm going to go with Arizona covering the 1349 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 2: spread losing, you know, thirty five, twenty four, fifty thirty eight. 1350 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that's probably I probably shot a 1351 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 2: little bit too low here. Yeah, forty five to thirty 1352 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 2: forty five thirty one Washington, but Arizona cover, Yeah, fifty 1353 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 2: two to thirty eight. 1354 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 1: For me, Fresno is one of my picks that we'll 1355 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: we'll get to in the later segment. Now like Fresno 1356 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 1: a lot. I agree if that is bad, also some 1357 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: other games here, if we're going to round things out 1358 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 1: and be complete in our coverage. Friday night seven pm 1359 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: ESPN Louisville minus three at NC State and then later 1360 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: on in the evening it is Cincinnati minus one and 1361 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 1: a half on the road at BYU. I'll come back 1362 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: to what I said a couple weeks ago. I think 1363 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 1: n C State is seventh or eighth best team in 1364 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: the ACC. I'm just not into them. So where's Louisville. 1365 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:16,719 Speaker 1: Louisville's fifth or sixth, So they're better, Okay, they're better. 1366 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: The defense on NC State side is okay. The offense 1367 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,640 Speaker 1: is telegraphed. Everybody knows that they're just building it out 1368 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: of Brandon Armstrong, and I'm just not I'm not crazy 1369 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: about that. I'm not crazy about Louisville, but I do 1370 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 1: like the matchup. So I'm on the Cardinals there and 1371 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm on BYU winning the game. Outright against Cincinnati since 1372 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: he traveling west for a late Friday kick. It's a 1373 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 1: bad offense going up against a good defense. So give 1374 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,400 Speaker 1: me BYU outright. Give me Louisville minus whatever. 1375 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like. I hate taking Louisville on the road 1376 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 2: Friday night in the ACC against n C State, but 1377 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 2: I think the matchup is quite nice for the Cardinals, 1378 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 2: who have been pretty great mostly on offense. Louisville we 1379 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 2: saw them thrash what BC last week, who's usually exactly 1380 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 2: how good of a team as their opponent is. NC 1381 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 2: State has been god awful at generating bigger plays this 1382 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 2: year and Louisville has been bad at preventing them. But 1383 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 2: I'm going to give that advantage to Lousvill. I don't 1384 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 2: think they're the cure for the common offense, So I 1385 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 2: think Louisville's balanced enough that they win this game by 1386 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 2: ten to thirteen points. I have BYU over Cincinnati altitude great, 1387 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 2: great by me take the team that I think I 1388 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 2: think BYU is solid. I haven't watched a ton of them, 1389 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 2: but what I have seen from them, I'm okay with them, 1390 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 2: and I think Cincinnati and what I've watched of them 1391 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 2: I'm just not there with the Cats. 1392 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm not there with the Cats. I'm not fully there 1393 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 1: on Keaton's slovis for BYU. However, the defense is legit. 1394 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: It is a good defense. And you know they beat Arkansas. 1395 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: This is a good team, is a decent d is 1396 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 1: probably a better team than I gave them credit for 1397 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Okay, fair enough, That's all we got, man, 1398 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: That is all we got is Week five, That is 1399 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 1: Soucassa Saturday. 1400 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 2: Is there not Patriot League matchups? I'm looking at this document. 1401 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:05,520 Speaker 2: I just have a request, if you can drop that big, stanky, pulsating, vibrating, 1402 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 2: drop a fight. One pm. 1403 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: Lee High at Monmouth playing this game at Kessler Stadium, West, 1404 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 1: Long Branch, New Jersey, Dan Rubenstein, who you got? 1405 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 2: Who you got? 1406 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: Who got? 1407 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 2: I've been to Long Branch, enjoyed Long Branch. I'm going 1408 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 2: with mondmuth hero. 1409 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:23,639 Speaker 1: What do you do in Long Branch? 1410 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 2: We stayed. I stayed with Jody with an eye and 1411 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,640 Speaker 2: when we just had one little guy, we stayed on 1412 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 2: the Jersey shore. It was great. 1413 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm going by had great weather, had great pizza, gon 1414 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 1: be seventy one and cloudy on Saturday, one pm, two 1415 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,759 Speaker 1: pm ESPN plus Fordham at Georgetown. Go in a multi 1416 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 1: sport field dan Fordham's three and one Georgetown two and two. 1417 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 1: Sort of the game of the week in the Patriot League. 1418 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the Rams here, give me the Rams 1419 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 2: big here. As much as I believe in multi sport 1420 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 2: field and the Hornets nest that it is the Rams 1421 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 2: travel they bring that crowd. 1422 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 1: I always go Georgetown multi sport field just fair enough. 1423 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 1: Auto Pick two pm ESPN plus Colgate oh and four, 1424 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 1: Cornell two and oh big Red. I'm Cornell here shoal 1425 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:15,440 Speaker 1: Cliff cop Field in Ithaca Shell cop Shop. 1426 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty six degrees, and I think that gives the 1427 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,879 Speaker 2: advantage to Cornell. They love playing when it's brisk out tie. 1428 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 2: So give me that. 1429 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: Big red bear Man. 1430 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, love it. 1431 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Three thirty ESPN plus Buck Now the Nelli's coming down here. 1432 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: T Lafayette scoring off against the Eddies Fisher Stadium, seven 1433 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: three degrees perracuous, seven to three, seven to three. I 1434 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: got caught up again all my words. 1435 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 2: Who you got Lafayette by forty to fifty points? You 1436 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 2: know how I roll? 1437 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a Nelly. Finally, five pm Harvard against 1438 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: holy Cross, Dan, Battle of the Northeast. Who you got and. 1439 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,639 Speaker 2: I have holy Cross here, top matchup in the Crimson. 1440 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:00,879 Speaker 2: But I'm going on holy Cross. 1441 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. I think I'm gonna go 1442 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 1: go Across Saders here. 1443 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, go Cross Saders. Tie versus the World, dve Ti 1444 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 2: versus the World, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook. 1445 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 1: It's been a demoralizing season of picking games. 1446 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Dan, I'm sorry to hear it, Ty, I really am. 1447 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 1: But I'm getting back on the horse in week five, 1448 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 1: So Costa Saturday. I got five picks here, and I've 1449 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,719 Speaker 1: got a parlay pushing all the chips in the middle. 1450 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 1: I already called out Usc minus whatever. They're my block 1451 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 1: of the week. I've got Syracuse in here, home dog 1452 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,599 Speaker 1: of the week, Syracuse plus seven. I've got LSU minus 1453 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: two and a half minus whatever, because you know my 1454 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 1: thesis on all things ole Miss, don't trust ole Miss. Yeah, 1455 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 1: I've got Illinois plus one on the advice of verbal 1456 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 1: er Eric who sends us the deep Purdue knowledge saying, 1457 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: do not pick Perdue. I'm not picking do I'm and 1458 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: pick Illinois out right. And then I got Fresno minus 1459 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 1: twenty four and a half your lock of week. So 1460 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm borrowing from you, borrowing from the verballer hood as well. 1461 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: And then I've got something that we're calling the alt 1462 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: Rock parlay this week, the alt Rock parlay. 1463 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 2: I've got five. 1464 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: Games, which is like plus eight or nine hundred, about 1465 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: eight or nine to one. Geez, Okay, if we're not 1466 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 1: going to hit it anyway, let's just go nuts, man, 1467 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Alternate spreads, group together to give you 1468 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 1: optimal benefit, right or get minus twenty one and a half, 1469 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: pulling that line down Alabama minus ten, pulling that line 1470 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: down Notre Dame minus two and a half, pulling that 1471 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,839 Speaker 1: one down USC, pulling the line way down USC minus 1472 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 1: seventeen against Colorado, and finally LS minus one. Group together. 1473 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 1: That's your alt Rock parlay. What's the number right now? 1474 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 1: The play us number eight seventy three. 1475 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 2: Whoo tie. Trying to make people wealthyeing them together. 1476 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Football is more fun when you're in on the action. 1477 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 1: So download the Draft King Sports Book app now. Sign 1478 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 1: up with the code solid s O l I D Solid. 1479 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 1: New customers can bet just five dollars to get two 1480 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 1: hundred instantly in bonus bets dan only on Draft King 1481 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 1: Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL. Use 1482 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: the code solid. The crown is yours, Dan Rubinstein. 1483 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 2: What are you eating this weekend? Any plans you grilling? 1484 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 2: You bring it in? You're trying to get me an 1485 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm out there and eat pizza. I know I was 1486 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 2: going to make you pizza tie. I've got the Dell 1487 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,760 Speaker 2: Friday Night, come in for Penn State Northwestern, take it 1488 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 2: around the Northwestern tailgate. Show off a celebrity, a Penn 1489 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 2: State celebrity. 1490 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Watch a Penn State celebrity. What should I eat? 1491 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 2: What should you eat? What should I eat? Which meal 1492 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,879 Speaker 2: is most important to you? Do you want a Saturday 1493 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 2: breakfast to kick things off right? You want lunch as 1494 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 2: the game start and you're watching USC Colorado Dinner? 1495 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking dap, I'm thinking dinner. I need something that 1496 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: is going to be heavy enough in the belly to 1497 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: power me through those night games, but not put me 1498 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: to sleep. 1499 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 2: That's the key. 1500 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: It can't put me to sleep because we got to 1501 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,719 Speaker 1: go live at midnight. 1502 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:25,560 Speaker 2: What about a plate of enchiladas, chicken enchiladas, cheese enchiladas? 1503 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Too heavy? 1504 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 1: It might be a little too heavy. 1505 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,759 Speaker 2: I don't think it's just ditch the rice and beans. 1506 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 2: I think you're good. They travel reasonably well because I 1507 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 2: love when the cheese congeals. You know what I'm talking about. 1508 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 2: Little just a touch rubbery. That's good Enchilada loving. I 1509 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 2: like that very soon. 1510 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 1: Well, look come back by all means on Saturday night 1511 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: at midnight. Yeah out on the YouTube channel. You can 1512 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 1: go to soliverbalive dot com or just YouTube dot com. 1513 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Slash at a little at signed soliverbal that'll get you 1514 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 1: over to the live stream. Give us a call in 1515 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 1: the reverbline at eight five to five verbal three. 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