WEBVTT - Week 4 recap 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:08.840 The Around the NFL Podcast, Sugars d a cap. Welcome 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.360 back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.600 My name is Dan Handsus and I'm joined by Room 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:19.320 Felder heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg grows a doll. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.279 What's up? Boys? Hey Dan, Dan just went around the 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.759 room and touched us with his You your hands touched? 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.960 I didn't, but I'm fine. I couldn't reach you, Mark, 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.800 but I will after the show. Feeling a little clammy 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.080 for a little bit. They were a little clammy, a 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.040 little bit on the clamo side, old clamo hands, Oh, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:42.080 sticky fingas hands. This welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:48.400 This is our Week four recap show, and that means 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.680 the quarter pole of the season. Pretty exciting it was. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.320 It was not a great day of games on paper, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.800 and yet, as it often happened, Sessler mentioned a lot 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.000 of good games on the field, a lot of excite 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.680 in it. That's true. I mean every week the NFL 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:07.759 delivers high excitement and this was no different. Uh, Mark, 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.200 you were by the way. Just everyone knows that I 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:16.560 had clocked at four pm Pacific time. Mark reacted with 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.760 excitement to a Browns game that he was watching officially 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.200 ending Mark's hunger strike against the Browns. What a waste 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.880 of time. My reaction was the game did not end well, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.199 and getting emotionally invested in this team on any level 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.640 is a disaster move any human. I feel you. I did. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.840 It did across my mind when that happened that I 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.760 do understand. Again, I don't necessarily support it, but I 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.840 totally get what you're doing here. Well, we can't all 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.560 wake up at like six am Pacific time and watch 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:50.080 our team just destroy someone else from another country. That's true. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.600 It was a nice wake up this morning. I woke 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.400 up before my infant son for once, and my wife, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.520 and with the with the sun not even up yet, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.360 I got to watch the Jets in London. We're gonna 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.720 get to that. A lot of show coming up today 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.080 on the Around the NFL podcast. What do we got 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.000 coming up? We got all the games from week four 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.720 and Greg there, We did the Thursday game, We got 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.919 the Monday night game coming up. We have two teams 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.560 on buy, so we're gonna talk about thirteen games. What 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.880 about the game that was in London early this morning? 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.720 What about it that counts as one of the third Okay, cool, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.760 I just it wasn't in America. I didn't know what 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.560 the rules were with It's a little crazy, but I 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.520 get what you're saying. Yes, we're counting that. We're gonna 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.120 talk about that game as well. Also, we're gonna have 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.560 in the studio again our good friend. She's almost like 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.720 an unofficial official member of the Around the NFL podcast. 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.400 She is Connie Fox, better known around these parts Colleen Wolf. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:51.080 We'll be back. I mean, if one of us were to, 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:57.320 you know, die quickly suddenly the show we're around here. Yeah, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.360 you know, you'd be remembered just as long as if 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.320 you were fired or got killed in this environment that 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.960 we're in so quickly shift. You know some that Connie 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.480 Fox takes first, that takes a she's leverage against all 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.760 of us. She's a safe, she's a safety part against 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.240 Trent Smart moved by us to just hand management leverage 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.280 like that. Yeah, and you know what Connie Fox too, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.000 if she wants to be part of the show on 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.440 a full time basis, she knows all she has to 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:24.880 do is get rid of one of us. So just 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.480 keep that in mind. Maybe we'll bring that up when 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.160 she's in here and then finally we have the Cowboys 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.240 verse Saints Sunday Night football from the super Dome. We're 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.080 gonna get into that. That, of course, the return of 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.760 Drew Brees back in the lineup after missing a week 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.960 with a shoulder injury, and yes, four more quarters of 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.080 Brandon Weeden. Never gets sick of that. So that is 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.480 everything we got coming up today on the show. That 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.560 sounds like a pretty good show. You guys are great, 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.880 pretty full. Yeah, all right, so let's get into it. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.880 Let's start with the first game. And uh, the first 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.560 game that we're gonna get to will be a prime 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.520 time or excuse me, a late game in Denver. And 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.320 it's another week and another dominant performance for the Broncos defense. 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:10.160 Denver sacked Teddy Bridgewater seven times, overcoming another shaky performance 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:14.160 from Peyton Manning and a twenty three twenty win over 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.560 the Vikings, and uh, a couple of things, A few things. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.400 First of all, Uh, in case we needed any reminder, 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.440 this Broncos defense is for real. H Teddy Bridgewater, I thought, 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.000 and Greg, I think you made some type of reference 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.359 to this too in the newsroom. The Bridgewater he equitted 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.960 himself pretty well, considering how much pressure he faced all game. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.040 He did a great job eluding pass rushers throughout the day, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.240 even though he got sacked seven times UM. And ultimately 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.200 that's what it came down to. And they got a 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.640 nice day from Ronnie Hillman, who had a seventy two 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.600 yard touchdown run in the second quarter that acted as 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.560 two things, the longest touchdown run of the NFL season 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.719 so far, and it officially uh he supplanted C. J. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.040 Anderson most likely as their number one running back option, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.200 and he saw it even down the stretch this week 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.320 with Ronnie Hellman Hillman getting carries in a big spot. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.280 So Hillman stepping up the defense having another monster day 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.680 to Marcus Ware, looks like he's twenty seven years old, UM. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.440 And Peyton Manning, listen, we know now what we're seeing 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.839 from Peyton Manning on a week to week basis. He 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.960 can still get it done, but he's not going to 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.880 be dominant. I mean, you're you're just not gonna see it. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.640 So here's my thing and I'll throw it to you 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.080 Greg to get us going here. Peyton Manning just has 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.400 to be a league average quarterback, right and this team 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.000 is gonna win twelve games and be a factor in January. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.560 Right therefore, and oh with him being a league average quarterback, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.600 I thought he improved a lot last week. I think 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.280 he played a really good game in Week three. Once 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.440 I got a chance to go watch that again. I 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.080 think for the most part during today's game, he played well. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.800 But he made that almost rookie type of mistake that 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.640 you're not used to seeing out of peyton Man right 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.560 before half them when he threw the interception, and that 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.760 turned the game around. The kind of mistakes that you 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.680 thought he would not make. When I compared him to 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.760 Farve's final season, that he isn't playing that smart. He's 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.599 that that's true, and he doesn't need to be great 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.440 because this defense every week they find a way to 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:11.880 come up with the play at the end of the game. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.800 And I'm into stats, and you guys, sometimes West makes 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.120 fun of me for being like too logical, taking the 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.960 logical you know, a little jealous, But but I do 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.080 believe there is such a thing as mojoe in terms 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.560 of winning close in late games, and this defense especially 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.600 believe they're gonna make the play to win the game 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.000 each week, and they do it, and the play to 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.480 win the game this week was t J Ward late 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.960 in the fourth quarter of the Vikings, driving down three 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:42.200 points a sack and strip of Teddy Bridgewater. Von Miller 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.800 falls on the ball game over. I mean, the difference 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.280 with this Broncos team is not just so they're making 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.520 up for Manning's less effective play, Like the defense is 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.480 looking dominant and you know, you take away Hellman's big 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.000 run today. Their running game is not that impressive. But 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.240 if they can shore that up, this is a team 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.080 much better prepared to win later in the year in 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.839 cold weather games and in the playoffs and just having 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.360 to lean on Manning. However, I'm not even more convinced 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.360 that a team with a lesser Manning is a better 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.520 shot to get to the super Bowl. There's a massive 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.000 compromise of play here. Maybe not a better shot, but 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.360 they have a shot therefore, no, and they're just figuring 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.240 things out. I think John Elway deserves a lot of 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.880 credit for rebuilding on the flight. Well, they were worried 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.920 about what's going to happen when Manning's dominant, Well he's 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:31.360 gone in the game. What happens when January Manning chose up? 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.320 I mean, he's already playing fairly poorly now and it's 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.720 his time a year right. Well, that that's there's two 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.760 ways to look at it. It's either this team is 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.720 better built for January football because they're not leaning on 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.520 Manning to produce like a all Teimer and they're gonna 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.040 lean on their defense more. But if Manning is like 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.320 this now, if he regresses beyond now, they're not gonna 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.920 have a shot because he can't. He can't be a 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.520 lesser player. He kind of has to stay here or 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.920 get better. He can't get worse because he's already right 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.160 at the middle of the pack. Right what ton have 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.600 we ever looked at any Super Bowl hopeful team and 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.000 say the quarterback isn't as good as he was last year, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.640 so they're a better threat to that. I know you're not, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.760 but it's just that it's easy to get to that narratile. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.280 This is a much more playoff, rugged type team. But 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.720 Manning is just gonna do and make and push and 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.680 make mistakes and big spots. Well, then this defense has 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.240 a chance to be truly special, to be a defense 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.720 that is just as dominant as the Seahawks defense has 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.360 been the last couple of years and has carried that 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.200 team I mean seven sacks eleven QB hits today, and 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.880 they're just so deep that that you can see that 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:34.800 if Manning can just you know, prove a little bit, 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.360 why not does it work? The two games in the 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.040 a f C West, those games count. I mean, they're 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.079 they're way ahead already. Does it worry you at all 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.760 that it took Ronnie Hillman out playing C. J. Anderson 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.920 for three preseason games and four regular season games before 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.000 they turned to Ronnie Hillman? Sure? I mean that I 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.360 guess you could potentially chalk that up to they thought 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.839 so highly of Anderson this year and he has been 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.120 playing through injury. Um On the other side, at the 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:59.760 running back of the position, I think one of the 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.679 things we're most excited about in terms of matchups this 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.520 week was Adrian Peterson verse the versus the Denver defense, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.840 and I called it in the right up a draw 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.840 because they did a really good job bottling him up 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.199 for the most part. But on one of the biggest 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.480 players of the game, which was a fourth and one 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.240 from midfield with about nine minutes to play in the 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.400 fourth quarter, Peterson busted through a huge hole, great blocking 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.360 and took it to the house. So that's a big 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.000 impact play. Obviously still has the legs um So yeah, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.800 Peterson was kind of held in check, held under a 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.560 hundred yards, but also had a big score. So interesting matchup. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.680 Let's see it again. Each week. Bridgewater disproves the think 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.360 some of the things that were said about him in 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.480 the draft, like his arm wasn't that great. I mean, 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.240 he had a couple of throws where he's getting pulled 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.720 down today where his arm was unbelievable, just one throw 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.400 where he threw it out of bounds, and that he's 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.520 not that greatest game scrambler when he wants to be. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.480 He is one of the best two or three scrambling 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.760 quarterbacks in the league. I I think I called this 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.679 like an onion check came for him. He had a 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.560 chance to make a big, big comeback at the end 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.280 of the game, maybe steal a tough game in the road. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.920 It didn't happen, and he did have the game ending turnover. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.000 So I'm not gonna go crazy, but I did see 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.360 things from him today that leaves you still excited about 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.280 Teddy Bridgewater and this I would assume I've never played 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.880 at this level. That's not that you know of that 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.000 you know of, but I would assume this would help 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:19.719 him dead a line to the Broncos are twenty four 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.319 and two at home since Peyton Manning took over. They 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.559 showed well to make this a game. All right, let's 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.640 move on. Let's talk about some of these Let's just 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.600 go down the line and talk about some undefeated teams. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.280 Next up the Arizona Cardinals, who had a home date 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.640 against the Rams, looking to go four and four and 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:39.520 oh but Todd Gurley I had other plans. He exploded 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.880 for a hundred and thirty six yards in the second 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.400 half alone, and the Rams held on for a twenty 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:49.439 four victory over the Cardinals, knocking Arizona from the ranks 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:54.280 of the unbeaten. Chris Westling, please explain to me, Mr scientists, 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.760 who are these St. Louis Rams. Well, they This is 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.520 the first time in the Jeff Fisher era where I 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.640 thought they were watchable. This was the bat I thought 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.760 that before us game in the afternoon. I didn't see 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.520 all the games, but it was a fascinating game. Was 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:12.040 a slugfest between two quality teams, and the Cardinals were 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.120 the better team. The Rams were lucky to get away 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.240 with a win. The third in the corner calling the 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.280 Rams the quality team you got, you were making fun 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:23.320 team because Todd Gurley emerged as a dominant talent in 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.280 their backfield. They haven't had an offense. He gives them 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.160 an offense. Exploded for a hundred thirty six yards in 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.120 the second half and looked great doing it. Uh and 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.560 showed awareness in the final drive with a couple of 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.480 big runs where he just kind of sat down at 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.880 the end of the run instead of trying for extra yardage. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.640 You're going out of bound. That's a great trope, by 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.400 the way, announcers calling games where a running back or 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.600 a receiver has the presence to get down and keep 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.920 the clock moving in that score catnet for announcers, like 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.360 all that guy's head is in the game, he's a 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.559 heavy player. Well, I think it was a roundings. He's 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.880 always aware of everything. For him, it was because it 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.880 was his second game, but he knew it and the 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.720 combination of how well he was running too. How about 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.760 the problem with that. We got a lot of tweets, 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.880 let's just let's just confront this. A lot of team 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.680 of a t L cursed tweets wondering one game asks 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:17.560 preposterous they were the better team today. They were extremely unfortunate. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.079 They turned the ball over three times. They outgained the 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.040 Rams easily, UM, and it was just a lot of 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.080 bad luck, like Larry Fitzgerald fumbling. UM. Carson Palmer threw 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:28.760 an interception in the end zone where it was a 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.360 helmet catch, and that's you can't just say that's it's 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.400 bad luck for the When David Tyree cut the ball 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.920 at his helmet, did you think it was lucky? That's 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.320 just raising his voice at you, Greg, that's lucky. Greg, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.200 You are the boss. You need to take command of 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.400 the situation. Of course, it's a lucky play to catch 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.200 a ball on your helmet first, and then you know 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.800 it's this gently massig. Part of the callback here is 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.920 that the boss. You know. People didn't really buy into this, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.120 but he talked about the Rams backfield as being one 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:00.079 of the more washable, intriguing ones around. And listen, if 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.400 if Gurly does this on a weeks week basis, he 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.120 is absolutely right. Who cares what Trede Mason does? Well, yeah, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.079 Trade Mason. I guess maybe it's just one of the 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.760 more watchable players. Because Trade Mason only had two carries 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.960 for negative one yards today, Honey Badger echo my sentiment. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.360 Just watched the tape. By no means did they do 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.840 anything special. We beat ourselves. The Cardinals were the better team, 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.760 and there's still a powerhouse and one of the best 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.640 teams in the NFL, and an extremely unfortunate day, they 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.640 still were easily the better team on the field. But 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.520 that's that's fine. But that's the Rams recipe essentially. I mean, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.240 they beat the Seahawks this way, they beat the Cardinals 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.120 this way. That's basically who They're gonna be full six 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.679 for three touchdowns and you know, not making huge mistakes, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.120 the defense making big place. I mean red zone defense 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.199 counts as something. Yards don't count as as much of anything. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.240 They basically they play the game they wanted. And I 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.800 get it, your first game after being named team of 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.400 at L, you butterflies, you can end up making some 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.000 mistakes that would be deemed on characteristic. I get that, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.719 but you just need to now now that's out of 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.400 the lay, Now you push forward. There is not even 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.480 a one percent of me that's concerned about this game. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.280 The Cardinals are a very good football team. There was chatter, 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:10.880 I mean, we heard this, you know, Greg and I 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.080 heard this before work today. A couple of people inside 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.199 the Cardinals locker room. Word did get around that they 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.680 were shows and his team of atl out of pressure. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.200 This is it's just another thing that Arians that they're scheduled. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.400 Their schedule is tough. Arians has a lot of issues 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.920 to confront and this is one of them. What kind 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.520 of team are we? Can we handle this pressure? We're 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.280 just gonna mail and and to answer some of the 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.640 people tweeting at me, I'm not I'm not happy that 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.000 the Rams beat the team of at L. Now it's 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.480 the team of ETL. That is, that is everyone's team 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.840 the Rams. They were the team of th h a 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.200 L fall, but now I'm more into the team of 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.440 a Well, speaking of tough schedules, the Rams lost. The 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.400 Rams go to green Bay next week, so that's the 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.200 thing they want this game. The momentum might be short lived, alright, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:59.080 So Arizona Cardinals no longer undefeated? How about the Atlanta Falcons? 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.800 Eight town is where they play? About that? All right? 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.880 No one calls it that the Falcons remain undefeated, as 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.880 NFL touchdown leader Devanta Freeman I said that, and it's true. 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.560 Gas to Texans for a hundred and forty nine yards 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:20.240 and three scores at one blowout victory. Ryan Mallett was 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:25.119 benched after a miserable first half in a predictable development, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.160 and I fear that's it. We're not gonna get any more. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.680 Ryan Mallett. I've enjoyed the arrow waltz last West. This 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.000 you would classify this game. We're just gonna throw it 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.440 out there. Tell me if it's accurate. That's total mismatch. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.840 It was a boat race. I mean it was forty 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.240 two to nothing, I think by the middle of the 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.560 third quarter, to the point where they just put Freeman, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.600 Julio Jones and Matt Ryan and bubble Rap. Freeman looked great. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.680 He had the same burst that he had last week. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.680 The offensive line gave him huge holes. Became the first 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.000 back since the merger with three touchdowns and each of 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.680 his first two career starts, and he looked phenomenal. He 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.160 looks to me like a combination of an early career 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.240 Ray Rice in an early career pr Thomas. I can't 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.840 say enough about Kyle Shanahan. Yes, these are a lot 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.080 of the same players that couldn't have been less fun 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.240 to watch a year ago. Does he and bother you 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:18.360 that the Browns had. I think that's why why I'm 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.960 seeing now firsthand how important he was to to Cleveland 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.440 last year, because they went from looking like one of 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.080 the most dominant lines with a run game that fit 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.680 their backs perfectly to looking nothing like that now where 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.080 that's what the Falcons are with what was a terrible 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.200 offensive line last They're moving the ball. Kyle and Anne's 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:39.240 gonna get some head coaching love if this offense keeps up. Well, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.040 They've scored thirty five points in back to back games 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.080 for the first time since the Super Bowl, and Leonard 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.840 Hankerson is getting over a hundred yards for your team. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.600 You're doing something right. What about the Browns clean house? 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.040 You get rid of Farmer, who's a bum, let's face it. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.360 You get rid of Patton Sorry, it's just not working out, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.760 and you bring back Shaddy the frodigal son under new management, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:05.280 head coach. Excuse me, it's a little early to okay, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.760 let's talk about the Texan side of things, and let's 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.640 hear what and see what Bill O'Brien had to say 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:16.359 after the game. Taking it very hard. I'm disappointed myself. 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.720 I'm disappointed in me as a head coach. That's what 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.440 I'm disappointed him because I don't think I did a 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.000 good job today, and I think I have to do 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.800 a better job of being a head coach and his team. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.480 It starts with me to go out there and perform 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.480 like that. That's on the head coach. So I'm gonna 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.080 try to do a better job, kind of a transparent, 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.840 uh coach move there. And then he thinks in his 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.679 mind when they write the biography about the Super Bowl season, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.840 when I put all the pressure and all the struggles 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.080 on my shoulders, that let it let the team be 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.479 themselves and not worry about the outside factors and just 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.360 what was going on between those a hundred yards long 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.359 and three yards across. Well, I think also anyone he 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.480 knows that anyone watching the game tape is going to 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.320 know that he alone is not to blame for this. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.800 He's right, it's a fault. He's mismanaged the quarterback situation 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.720 pretty pretty well. Now they have a Thursday night game 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.920 coming up against the Colts. They're one in three. He's 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.240 I guess gotta name. There's no way you're turning back 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.879 to mallet all by the way, and the disrespect that 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.920 they show our quarterbacks. I'm tired of it because both 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.159 of those kids can play enough. He was trying to 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.800 talk his coaching staff into it. Maybe the person really 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.000 mismanaged it. Those Rick Smith, yeah, that this was even 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.679 a situation that Bill O'Brien had to deal with. They 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.560 rather have y Ryan Fitzpatrick. Well, those, but those I 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.600 think quarterbacks are over the day Ryan, at least Hoyer. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.520 And it was a terrible year to try to find 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.600 a quarterback if you didn't have a high trail Arian Foster, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:44.920 and you know things aren't going well. When he returns 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.639 for this game, you know he has ten yards and 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.280 eight carries, and one of those carries he fumbled the ball. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.320 It was returned for a touchdown, and the fumble was 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:55.840 caused by his own teammate exactly he looked, he looked rusty, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.920 and Ryan Mallett, I mean, he should never start again. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:03.640 I'm sorry, Dave damaged check. But there's no element, there's 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.280 no timing element to this offense because he just stares 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.000 down receivers and tries to throw it through him, as 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.080 we've mentioned before, and he was just incredibly inaccurate. He 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.120 would he would probably beat Donovan NAB's Wormburner record most 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.080 one hoppers to his wide receivers. If he played all 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.960 year Kaepernick today, he might be in the race. Yeah, 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:21.760 he'd be another candidate. We're going to see both of 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.520 these quarterbacks like five more times. That would not be 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.399 absolutely rough to watch. All right, Let's move on another 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:33.440 undefeated team, the Carolina Panthers. They remain undefeated. Josh Norman 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:38.159 continued his Mark Sesler revenge to our intercepting to Jameis 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.119 Winston passes running one back for his score and a 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.119 thirty seven twenty three win for the Panthers over the 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:48.399 Bucks Panthers. Panthers are four no keeping pace of the 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:53.360 Falcons atop the NFC South. And uh, you know, Josh Norman, listen, Mark, 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.080