Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, it's Devin Simone and guess who's back on
Speaker 1: the podcast. It's me.
Speaker 2: Hey, family, cousin, sisters, brothers, everybody. I'm Davon Rogers and
Speaker 2: I'm back and this is emptv's official Challenge podcast.
Speaker 1: Davon, I'm so happy to have you back. How are
Speaker 1: you feeling?
Speaker 2: I feel good. I feel good. I miss you guys,
Speaker 2: I miss talking. I've seen the twinter streets. They've been asking,
Speaker 2: where's day Vine, where's day Vine here? I am so
Speaker 2: I hope y'all listening.
Speaker 1: Yes, you guys. Better for those who are asking about Davon,
Speaker 1: you guys better be tuned in and listening. I am
Speaker 1: so excited about this season of the Challenge. I love
Speaker 1: that we it's a new beginning, We got a new season.
Speaker 1: What are you most excited to see, Davon? I am
Speaker 1: excited to see these people come in with all of
Speaker 1: their hunger.
Speaker 2: These I can't even call them newbies, these rookies, you know,
Speaker 2: new school, the new school challenges, let's go with that.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see them come in with all of
Speaker 2: this hunger and this excitement to be the new champ,
Speaker 2: like it's time for a new name to be up
Speaker 2: there with the rest of the Chance.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because it's like they're not full fledged
Speaker 1: rookies just because they've all played the game before, so
Speaker 1: they all have had a taste of what they're getting into.
Speaker 1: But I can't wait for the twist of they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go against some heavy hitters if they want
Speaker 1: to take that crown. I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: the commercial with CT coming out with what looks like
Speaker 1: when those ball and chain things and he's like, you
Speaker 1: have to go here. To me, I would just turn
Speaker 1: right around and get on the next flight and had
Speaker 1: my happy ass right back home if I saw that
Speaker 1: so exactly exactly, I wouldn't even you know what, TJ,
Speaker 1: leave my bag here. I'll just take what I'm wearing
Speaker 1: and roll bounce out. So we see a lot of
Speaker 1: that that's going to be really really interesting. They're gonna
Speaker 1: make them work for it if they want to get it.
Speaker 2: But it makes sense, like if you want to be
Speaker 2: the champ, you have to beat the Chance, right, so
Speaker 2: it only makes sense.
Speaker 3: It definitely makes sense. I'm excited to see how plays out.
Speaker 1: I love it, and we have a front row seat
Speaker 1: to it all and we are going to be dissecting
Speaker 1: it all, which is amazing. And to kick it off,
Speaker 1: I mean, we couldn't do it without the Queen of
Speaker 1: Piano playing, the Queen of accents, the Queen of cheffery.
Speaker 1: Cheffery is even a word, but yes, exactly in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: She also makes you proud and that she has taken
Speaker 1: my baton of wig wearing on the challenge and has
Speaker 1: done so so well. H We have Big Tea in
Speaker 1: the house, an interview with her coming up later which
Speaker 1: is going to be so phenomenal you're not gonna miss it.
Speaker 1: And we get so much tea, I mean, we are
Speaker 1: coming out the gate hot. We got tea for you.
Speaker 1: So much tea your cup will run it over. But
Speaker 1: before we get to that tea, let's do a quick
Speaker 1: breakdown of this first episode because there was a lot.
Speaker 3: Absolutely let's get into this episode.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this format for this season is basically three
Speaker 2: sections control, fight for the new money okay, Chaos, protect
Speaker 2: the money, and then conquest.
Speaker 3: You have to win and this season they are not playing.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: We had our very first challenge of the season and
Speaker 2: it was called Whole Control and it's basically where the boys.
Speaker 2: They're gonna bring the poles out of the pit, and
Speaker 2: then the girls have to solve this puzzle. Pretty simple
Speaker 2: puzzle if you ask me, but you know, it is
Speaker 2: what it is. It's not complicated. But then it's also
Speaker 2: not completed, and so they lose the money. Everybody fifty
Speaker 2: k down to drain fifty.
Speaker 3: K in ten minutes.
Speaker 1: You could have did it, but they didn't. So now
Speaker 1: we have to go to this voting. The votes go
Speaker 1: to Jessica.
Speaker 2: Jessica picks Big Tea, calls her weak and all this
Speaker 2: other kind of stuff. Big Tea goes down there to
Speaker 2: the elimination, which is called fallout, and she lets her know, baby,
Speaker 2: I'm not weak, and watch me fall out on the fallout.
Speaker 3: So Big Tea ends up.
Speaker 2: Winning, Jessica goes home, and for me, the episode was.
Speaker 1: Top top tier, top tier girl. There was so much
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start. Actually, I do.
Speaker 1: Orange was a bold color choice girls, and I don't
Speaker 1: know where is it Pantone's color of the Year. It's interesting,
Speaker 1: look go ahead challenge. I appreciate branching out is just
Speaker 1: a real departure from what we've seen. It's very bold.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know how you guys are feeling about that,
Speaker 1: So please DM me and let me know. It's a
Speaker 1: very bold color choice. Okay, So, now a lot was
Speaker 1: going on here, and this whole control, chaos and conquest
Speaker 1: thing reminds me of like dating in your early twenties,
Speaker 1: you know, like just the struggle it does, the chaos
Speaker 1: and conquests especially. There was definitely a lot of chaos
Speaker 1: going here. It reminded me of elementary school. You know,
Speaker 1: when the teachers like, Okay, everybody's gonna get a snack,
Speaker 1: but everybody needs to line up, or like everybody needs
Speaker 1: to be quiet, and you just you hoping that like
Speaker 1: those kids, there's like those two or three kids that
Speaker 1: just won't shut up. That is what this was giving me,
Speaker 1: all right. It was stressing me out because you want
Speaker 1: them to win. Like I have never wanted someone to
Speaker 1: get a weggie so bad. Then I did this because
Speaker 1: I wanted them to pull him up. I just was like,
Speaker 1: pull him, just any means necessary, pull him up over
Speaker 1: the legs. I wanted them to win so bad. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the communication piece man was just not there. What were
Speaker 1: you feeling, Davon.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I was like grab his nack, grab
Speaker 2: his throat, right, just fallow them up by any means necessary,
Speaker 2: falling up. It was. That was extremely hard to watch
Speaker 2: the girls. I don't understand why no one thought to
Speaker 2: put the puzzle on the ground, right, First do the
Speaker 2: puzzle on the ground.
Speaker 3: And then you can just put the poles up. Ladies,
Speaker 3: what's happening today?
Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to talk. You can't listen when it comes
Speaker 2: to a group challenge.
Speaker 1: Shut up, yep, shut it up, yep?
Speaker 2: Okay, like because it's chaos and not in the best way. Like,
Speaker 2: they didn't protect the money, Devin. They didn't protect the money.
Speaker 1: They did they didn't know what they were doing. And
Speaker 1: now nobody gets a snack. Nobody gets a snack or
Speaker 1: naptell money because they couldn't get it together. I will say,
Speaker 1: it's a really interesting dynamic and it's a beautiful cast,
Speaker 1: you know, which is just amazing. Maybe that's why they
Speaker 1: put them an orange. I don't know. I'm still wondering
Speaker 1: about the orange.
Speaker 3: But I like the orange.
Speaker 1: You know, I just couldn't I I would be worried.
Speaker 1: I just yes, okay, I have thoughts about the orange.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm say. I also have thoughts about Berna
Speaker 1: coming in hot this season, like I don't understand, like
Speaker 1: I and obviously she's going through some things and that's
Speaker 1: usually the case on the show. It's a lot, but
Speaker 1: like Berna was coming in a little too hot in
Speaker 1: my opinion, especially when she shut poor Colleen the psychologist down.
Speaker 1: I just it just felt like it was a lot.
Speaker 1: And then we already just wanted to hear she just
Speaker 1: but you can see how nicely you said that day,
Speaker 1: See how kindly you were. Just any if you ever
Speaker 1: said that to me, and no matter what I was doing,
Speaker 1: I would talk and be like, okay, girl, I'm here.
Speaker 1: But if you're telling me stuff and I'm just like, well, Davon,
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully you'll feel better if you and you
Speaker 1: I I just want to talk. I just want to talk.
Speaker 3: Close your mouth, what is this?
Speaker 1: That's why nobody wanted a room with her. Like she
Speaker 1: was given very very.
Speaker 2: And I hope she's not offended when she hears this.
Speaker 2: She was getting very sensitive. She gave very sensitive and
Speaker 2: very defensive yes, like yeah she was.
Speaker 1: She was on gjar yeah, very much.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: She was definitely on guard. And her friends tried to
Speaker 1: tell her that you know, when your friends are trying
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk to you and saying you're
Speaker 1: being defensive and you know they're coming from a place
Speaker 1: of love, and you're still not listening that like, that's
Speaker 1: probably not going to be in your best interest. Something
Speaker 1: that will be in your best interest this season though,
Speaker 1: I know I get on people about showmances, but so far,
Speaker 1: if there's ever a season to have a showmance. And
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that because the cast is attractive,
Speaker 1: I'm saying this guy girl thing that we're seeing emerging
Speaker 1: right now, I think the best way to protect yourself
Speaker 1: is to.
Speaker 3: Get a guy.
Speaker 1: Take out was right, right? I mean that seems like
Speaker 1: a smart move at this point. What are your thoughts today? Yeah,
Speaker 1: get you a guy? Would you have done it? Would
Speaker 1: you have done it?
Speaker 3: And this I can't do it and it's so bad.
Speaker 2: I need to learn because I didn't learn how to act,
Speaker 2: like okay, I just I can't do to fake the bunk.
Speaker 3: I gotta learn how to fake it.
Speaker 4: I make it.
Speaker 3: I just I can't do it. I get so irritated,
Speaker 3: like never.
Speaker 1: Mind, yeah yeah, never mind, get off me, get away
Speaker 1: from me. But still don't vote for me, but get right,
Speaker 1: but don't vote for me. I have a feeling we're
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of that as people start
Speaker 1: to you know, strategize or just familiarize themselves with other
Speaker 1: people who so far, I know it's been a while
Speaker 1: since you've done this, so I'm gonna need you to
Speaker 1: dust off your stars and your time out chair. But uh,
Speaker 1: who is getting your gold Star of the week and
Speaker 1: who's getting your time out?
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna split my star in half.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's how it works, but yeah,
Speaker 1: uh you get half, you.
Speaker 3: Get half in half.
Speaker 2: I want to give it to Big T and the
Speaker 2: rese okay, simply because I am such a fan of
Speaker 2: and it's probably gonna buy me in a butt if
Speaker 2: I ever go back, but I don't care.
Speaker 3: Get them men out of here.
Speaker 2: Like the idea of this, to have this all women
Speaker 2: final is such a powerhouse idea to me, Like, oh
Speaker 2: my goodness, And if there was ever a time to
Speaker 2: do it, this would be it. Usually you're like, you
Speaker 2: know what, Either we're gonna get the champs out or
Speaker 2: we're gonna hold out to the champion gave him as
Speaker 2: a shield. Ain't no Champson, you know, so yeah, a
Speaker 2: powerhouse female all women casts. Oh my gosh, final like
Speaker 2: that would be so amazing. So I'm gonna give my
Speaker 2: gold stars to Ben and who gets your time out,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to give it to Jessica, because Baby,
Speaker 2: I've never seen someone dig a hole so badly for themselves.
Speaker 3: And Baby, I was with you in the beginning because
Speaker 3: I thought you were trying to.
Speaker 2: Save yourself and then you hooked that left and I
Speaker 2: don't understand where the where it was going. And then
Speaker 2: the whole idea of I'm gonna take control and take
Speaker 2: it into my faith. I wasn't buying that. I think
Speaker 2: you knew you were going in and you were trying
Speaker 2: to kind of like save face.
Speaker 3: But I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: I think she's a great girl, she's gorgeous, but I
Speaker 2: just I'm put your time out today.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 1: I thought, I actually thought, I mean, to your point,
Speaker 1: you're right again saying with the rascio thing in that
Speaker 1: the numbers. She already knew she was going in by
Speaker 1: the time it was like getting to her vote. But
Speaker 1: I actually respected her being like I'm gonna say myself too,
Speaker 1: Like I actually was kind of like, all right, I
Speaker 1: have I have props for you. Uh go check my stats.
Speaker 1: I promised my team before the Daily that if we
Speaker 1: ended up in elimination I would put myself in so
Speaker 1: that they didn't have to fight on who did it?
Speaker 1: And Bill and guess what I disshure did and I
Speaker 1: did it against my showmans. I did it against Uh. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I am a woman of my word, and yes,
Speaker 1: I would have done that if I felt it was
Speaker 1: right in the moment. She ain't scared. Actually she is,
Speaker 1: which is why she doesn't like me eliminations. But I
Speaker 1: also stand by my word, So there's that. But I
Speaker 1: respected that she did that. But then when she came
Speaker 1: for Big Tea after that, that was kind of like not,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it was just gone a week and stuff
Speaker 1: like girl, that was not No, it was not the
Speaker 1: move for my gold Stars of the Week or actually
Speaker 1: I'll start with my time out of the Week. I
Speaker 1: actually feel like there's several potential contenders. I mean, some
Speaker 1: of the stuff we learn in our interview with our
Speaker 1: special guest today would nominate someone else, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to spoil it, so I'm not gonna say whose
Speaker 1: name could potentially be in the time out list. But
Speaker 1: you will hear it when you listen to this interview.
Speaker 1: But some other potential contenders for me, Jessica, of course,
Speaker 1: just because that speech, we got to call me. I'll
Speaker 1: help you. We can write something out, a general outline.
Speaker 1: But don't ever say that speech again in your life.
Speaker 1: Please don't do it, Berna, because Berna was like she
Speaker 1: literally was causing the storm and complaining it was raining. Girl,
Speaker 1: if you don't put that damn lightning stick down, then
Speaker 1: maybe okay, maybe you're here when you get wet. This
Speaker 1: is cloud. But I right, She's like, I don't understand. No,
Speaker 1: shut up and let me talk. But I don't understand,
Speaker 1: like girl, uh, but it has to go to Harasio.
Speaker 1: And look, I know Horacio is fine, like Wine, I know,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like he was trying to flex,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, something irks my soul when I
Speaker 1: people feel like people are trying to flex but trying
Speaker 1: to make it look like they're not flexing. And so
Speaker 1: him being like, I'm not a sheep. If you don't sit,
Speaker 1: you're not you're not well. Right now, that's just not
Speaker 1: a smart.
Speaker 4: Strategic I wave.
Speaker 1: It's just not a short smart strategic move because it's
Speaker 1: like you're now voluntarily to put a target on your
Speaker 1: back unnecessarily, Like even if he was number two in
Speaker 1: the voting line, I could get it because you you
Speaker 1: have potential to turn things around and you're standing on
Speaker 1: the ground when your number thirty two in a lineup
Speaker 1: of thirty three. Dude, just just voting the rest of
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And it's like it was Also, it wasn't like you
Speaker 1: were voting in CT. So what cool, big bad points
Speaker 1: are you gonna get for voting in Big T.
Speaker 3: But no, but Dalcie, this is what I'm saying. It
Speaker 3: wasn't CT.
Speaker 2: But like I said, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: the guys are afraid of Big T. So it kind
Speaker 2: of was a CT situation, like I'm scared to say
Speaker 2: their name.
Speaker 1: I say it right. That's how I'm fair. That's fair,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Well, he gets my time out. Go have
Speaker 1: several seats, several seats, think about what you did, several seats.
Speaker 1: Count some sheep while you're at it, and then my
Speaker 1: gold star of the week is going to have to
Speaker 1: go to none other than, of course Big Tea because
Speaker 1: I liked that she came out swinging, and she was bold,
Speaker 1: and this is a new kind of gameplay, and in
Speaker 1: the sense that since there aren't bets in the house,
Speaker 1: usually we see people immediately targeting bets, but like you
Speaker 1: kind of can't this time. And so a lot of
Speaker 1: people were quiet on strategy and she was not a sheep,
Speaker 1: and she was leading the way and then also came
Speaker 1: out in victory. And I don't think she was the
Speaker 1: weakest in this week's Daily at all either. So them
Speaker 1: going for her in that way, I just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: wasn't wasn't fair. But her story, her ministry was that
Speaker 1: she was supposed to come out on top and show
Speaker 1: the people. So gold star to Big T and a
Speaker 1: bonus star to Big T for the tea she is
Speaker 1: dropping in this week's interview, y'all thought Davon was messy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you, big tea, don't let the
Speaker 1: accent fool you.
Speaker 3: She came.
Speaker 1: She brought receipts. Okay, if you can picture, if you
Speaker 1: ever watched Married Medicine, you can picture Mariah walking back
Speaker 1: through the doors. Do I need to bring these out
Speaker 1: for receipt receipts? You are not going to want to
Speaker 1: miss this. It is a lot going on and it's
Speaker 1: so much fun. A lot of laughs, a lot of
Speaker 1: behind the scenes inside, some things to watch out for.
Speaker 1: It is a perfect way to kick off the season.
Speaker 1: So grab your snack, do your thing, do some stretches,
Speaker 1: get ready, clean out your ears because you are not
Speaker 1: gonna want to miss this. Take some notes and stay
Speaker 1: tuned because we have very special guests Queen Big Tea
Speaker 1: in the house. That interview coming up right after this.
Speaker 1: What what a show, what a season, and you know
Speaker 1: we had to kick it off right with a very
Speaker 1: special guest. Now, some say she is, you know, a
Speaker 1: social mastermind. Some say she is a layup. But if anything,
Speaker 1: I'd say she proved tonight. Don't count her out. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast, The Queen, the Chef Big Tea.
Speaker 4: Hey day, Hi ladies, thank you so much for having
Speaker 4: me here today.
Speaker 1: We are so excited. I just have to tell the
Speaker 1: people listening she did arrive in a tiara. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna point it. You guys can't see it, but just
Speaker 1: so you know, she is indeed in this moment rocking
Speaker 1: a tiara.
Speaker 3: Because of.
Speaker 4: Period, absolutely the season premiere, I've had to show up.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, love that. So how did it feel to
Speaker 1: be back, because it's been a while since we've seen you.
Speaker 1: You were getting like doing training to become a chef
Speaker 1: over in the UK. So when you got this call,
Speaker 1: you know, what were your thoughts? What were your feelings?
Speaker 4: You know? So I had just graduated from culinary school
Speaker 4: and you know, I really thought my path was going
Speaker 4: to go back there. But then I got the call
Speaker 4: for the challenge and I just thought to myself, Oh,
Speaker 4: I've really missed the game, and there was something in
Speaker 4: my heart. I was just like, I follow as this,
Speaker 4: I haven't completed everything that I want to in this game,
Speaker 4: and I had to come back.
Speaker 3: You got that.
Speaker 4: Itch came back, absolutely came back much sooner.
Speaker 2: I thought, listen, now this right here, this episode was
Speaker 2: absolutely insane.
Speaker 3: Great way to kick off this season, my goodness.
Speaker 2: Okay, before we even get into it, Okay, watching the episode,
Speaker 2: you already let us know you went in and black
Speaker 2: some folks, so let us know how that goes.
Speaker 3: Who did your black girl? Who did you shut down?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So we had to block and unfollow Corey Lea
Speaker 4: just because of some conversations that we've had in real life.
Speaker 4: And where he told me he was only plotting against
Speaker 4: me because he was influenced to do that byan Michelle
Speaker 4: and Jay, which now having watched an episode I see
Speaker 4: is not facts and very untrue. So yeah, I had
Speaker 4: to deal with that situation accordingly.
Speaker 1: Okay, got rid of And by the way, you guys,
Speaker 1: this is why of all the podcasts. I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Challenge podcasts, a lot of really great ones,
Speaker 1: and shout out to those podcasts, but this is why
Speaker 1: you want to listen to the official Challenge podcast because
Speaker 1: this is all happening live in real time. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is unfolding. Big Tea just realized because she just
Speaker 1: saw the episode that what she was told was maybe
Speaker 1: not fully accurate. So this tea is piping hot, so
Speaker 1: hot hot. How do you feel, Big Tea?
Speaker 4: How do I feel?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I guess sometimes I play this game too emotionally sometimes
Speaker 4: because I like to take people at face value, and
Speaker 4: you know, I was. I had a lot of aniosity
Speaker 4: towards Michelle and j because Corey was just like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's damn that made me do that. And then watching
Speaker 4: the episode, I saw he didn't need any prompt he
Speaker 4: didn't need any encouragement. This is something that he's come
Speaker 4: into and I find it very interesting because Corey's like, oh,
Speaker 4: big Tea plays this game like this and this to
Speaker 4: be quite frankly, the season I did with him, he
Speaker 4: didn't last long enough to see how I did play
Speaker 4: the game. So where he's getting that from is, I
Speaker 4: don't know. And it's quite rich coming from him really,
Speaker 4: to be honest. And also, you know, this is somebody
Speaker 4: who in my first season with him, he came after me.
Speaker 4: He's come after me again. So now I'm thinking, is
Speaker 4: it personal? And this is definitely somebody who's permanently on
Speaker 4: my watch list.
Speaker 3: Now, well, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: You go ahead and wear this badge of honor because
Speaker 2: from watching the episode, Baby, the men were terrified to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, they were terrified to you. They said, we got
Speaker 1: to get her out of here. Well, he did say
Speaker 1: that you were smart. Yeah, he said that you were smart.
Speaker 1: But let's let's back up a little bit at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this episode, right because it is the season premiere.
Speaker 1: So you came into the house basically aligned with ninety
Speaker 1: nine point nine eighty seven percent of the people competing.
Speaker 1: How did you go about making so many alliances, you
Speaker 1: know upon day one, please walk me through that strategy
Speaker 1: and did you The follow up question is, did you
Speaker 1: think that using West as an example and his becoming
Speaker 1: aligned with everybody before going in the house was a
Speaker 1: good idea.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a good idea because I thought,
Speaker 4: you know, I was kind of scrambling. I wanted to
Speaker 4: keep myself safe and Melissa safe, so I was like,
Speaker 4: let's just make a huge network as big as possible. Now.
Speaker 4: I was told everybody who's done previous seasons together are
Speaker 4: going to stick together, which is why I thought, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm so aligned because I've done the most seasons out
Speaker 4: of everybody.
Speaker 1: So you told you that? Who told you that?
Speaker 4: It was just word on the street? Okay, yeah, it
Speaker 4: was like a general street, the streets of Croatia absolutely.
Speaker 1: All right, who were you most excited to see going
Speaker 1: into that?
Speaker 4: Do you know what? So my game flan kind of
Speaker 4: messed up because Melissa and I weren't going to let
Speaker 4: everyone know that we're best friends because we know that
Speaker 4: we knew that would be targeted straight away. So going
Speaker 4: into the house, I was going to be like, oh,
Speaker 4: me and Melissa don't really get on, but it was
Speaker 4: I did to see her. I was like, that's my
Speaker 4: best friend.
Speaker 1: You can't Hi, And I couldnot. I cannot not Big
Speaker 1: Tea spoiling her own game. Day one can not.
Speaker 2: Y'all was outside night one, y'all had to sleep outside.
Speaker 2: It's fine it to us, because girl, what what a
Speaker 2: bloody disaster?
Speaker 4: Did you see what I was wearing. I was wearing
Speaker 4: my heels and a little like jumpsuit hot pants actually,
Speaker 4: and we're outside without like a fur blanket or anything,
Speaker 4: and it was freezing cold, it's raining. I was so
Speaker 4: fed up. I think you hear him even staying TJ
Speaker 4: come on, hurry up now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and he was running late because where was
Speaker 3: you at exact?
Speaker 4: I mean, this is something that we did not expect.
Speaker 4: And we're also hungover, but fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what happened the night before? Were you guys partying?
Speaker 1: Like what went down the night before?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? We were partying like it was nineteen seventies,
Speaker 4: like it was Studio fifty four in the Challenge Elimination Ground. Okay,
Speaker 4: boys to make out with boys, girls who make up
Speaker 4: with girls? Axes, we're making out in front of other
Speaker 4: people that, oh, like cool.
Speaker 1: Let's get some names in here. Let's get some name.
Speaker 1: There's a laddier, Let's get some who's making out who?
Speaker 4: I don't want a gossip, but Karen and Jessica needs
Speaker 4: to have that finger thing thing. And then Karen, it
Speaker 4: is such a gospel.
Speaker 1: Look at your face. It's fine. Don't overthink, just over share.
Speaker 1: That is the motto of the podcast, Big Tea.
Speaker 4: So we're playing spin the bottle and Kien spins the
Speaker 4: bottle and it lands on Raven, so he has to
Speaker 4: kiss Raven, and Jessica's just like hell to the nub,
Speaker 4: so she grabs Raven and starts making out. When Hern
Speaker 4: Everyone's just like, oh, who.
Speaker 1: Did you make out with? Big Tea.
Speaker 4: I don't really like to kiss people with the tongue
Speaker 4: when I first meet them, So I just gave Cleen
Speaker 4: a peck.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good good. It's very respectable of you, very
Speaker 1: the real family would be very proud of you, Big
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you guys had a lot of fun. Wait,
Speaker 1: is that when Michelle and Calm sort of things started
Speaker 1: brewing that first night?
Speaker 4: A lot was brewing that first night. But yes, I
Speaker 4: did sneak a peek at Michelle and column people were
Speaker 4: also really admiring Jessica as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait, people who as in people who voted her
Speaker 1: in were admiring Jessica. Okay, so then how how it looked?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Okay, how did it flip?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: So, but was she like kicking them all off? Like
Speaker 1: how did she have fans essentially night one in the
Speaker 1: house and then we get to the point that they
Speaker 1: all are voting her in?
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know. Maybe that's part of my
Speaker 4: political master wine shit. You will say, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I didn't. I'm jaking. I really didn't actually pot against Jessica.
Speaker 4: I just didn't want it to be a female. I
Speaker 4: actually was wanting it to if it had to be
Speaker 4: a female, I wanted it to be clean. And the
Speaker 4: other girls were saying Jessica, Jessica, Jessica.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, no, no, I got
Speaker 1: to be Colleen.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a relationship with her at this point
Speaker 4: in the game, just the girl I spoke to the least,
Speaker 4: and she had done a previous season with the other girls,
Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, she'd probably align with them
Speaker 4: rather than me. So Jessica is somebody who I'd probably
Speaker 4: be able to trust more.
Speaker 1: Didn't you think it'd be good to have a therapist
Speaker 1: in the house, though, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I feel like we're a lost cause cisde therapist.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, we saw her trying to help Berner,
Speaker 1: and Berne had the audacity to be like, no, I
Speaker 1: just want to tell you stuff, you know what.
Speaker 3: I respect that because sometimes I just need you to
Speaker 3: be an ear and out of mouth. I just want
Speaker 3: to talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you got to earn that, right, because
Speaker 1: like what makes her think that Colleen just wants to
Speaker 1: hear her nonsense like friends?
Speaker 3: Because she said, trying to help a.
Speaker 1: Lost soul Burn and needs to stop talking and do
Speaker 1: some listening and maybe she have a friend or two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I understand setting boundaries, but you need to exercise that
Speaker 1: at home. You can't be out on an island trying
Speaker 1: to set boundaries. You're gonna fall off the island. That
Speaker 1: was wild, And Colleen looked at her like, bitch, what
Speaker 1: that was wild?
Speaker 4: I felt bad. I appreciated it. Burner, Oh no, I
Speaker 4: felt bad for clean.
Speaker 1: Because yeah I did too.
Speaker 4: Because you know, it's day two or day one. We're
Speaker 4: just talking this experience. I'm sure clean, has her own
Speaker 4: anxieties and stresses as well, and so she's actually landing
Speaker 4: in air trying to give advice and for Bottles to
Speaker 4: be like, m M, I don't want your advice. I
Speaker 4: think it is quite.
Speaker 1: Harsh lcensed advice. On top of that, this isn't someone
Speaker 1: who's like, oh I just watched an episode in Nine
Speaker 1: Day Fiance, I can I can diagnose she like.
Speaker 3: This is someone who like is trained with the schools
Speaker 3: giving trying to help.
Speaker 1: You out and burns. I know, A hot mess, A
Speaker 1: hot mess. Okay, speaking of hot mess, let's get into
Speaker 1: this daily now. Oh my gosh, a total twist. Were
Speaker 1: your thoughts when you rolled up to it and you
Speaker 1: saw that mud pit? And then when you heard that
Speaker 1: it was going to be a pass or fail grade
Speaker 1: not so much a winner or a losing.
Speaker 4: Or well, you know, when I saw the mud pit,
Speaker 4: I do love mud pits. I was quite excited. But
Speaker 4: then when I did see that we're playing as a
Speaker 4: whole team collectively, I was quite anxious. I was quite worried.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is going to be a disaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mud pits? Why why big t what?
Speaker 4: You know, there's very cleansing for the skin. When you
Speaker 4: have like mud and your face dries up poor and
Speaker 4: all of that, is.
Speaker 1: It actually for a certain type of mud, not stepped
Speaker 1: on challenge mud, And yes, big tee at the spot,
Speaker 1: they are not grabbing mud out from the back of
Speaker 1: their house, from the pasture.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 3: It's a certain type of mud.
Speaker 4: I'm out range. I had no idea. I cannot putting
Speaker 4: it on my face.
Speaker 1: Somebody checks to take big t over here trying to
Speaker 1: give herself a spa mask in the middle. That's why
Speaker 1: they didn't win that daily.
Speaker 2: Who makes likely strategy or was there no strategy for
Speaker 2: the women who were doing the puzzle, because I was
Speaker 2: wondering why y'all didn't do it on the ground first?
Speaker 4: Well, that was the thing, was just too many cooks,
Speaker 4: spoiled broth. You know. I did come in and say, guys, like,
Speaker 4: let's do this, this, this. I did try to have
Speaker 4: my parts, but then it got to the point where
Speaker 4: everyone's like here, here, here, and I just stepped back.
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, dear, this is just not
Speaker 4: going to work.
Speaker 3: Fifty k in ten minutes.
Speaker 4: My gosh, you ever so close. I felt like you
Speaker 4: were so close.
Speaker 2: I do want to know, is Bernard soft spoken or
Speaker 2: were you guys really just like tuning her out because
Speaker 2: she made it seem as if no one was paying
Speaker 2: attention to her.
Speaker 3: But she seems really.
Speaker 1: Soft spoken, does she? Were we watching the same show Davon? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Devon, Yeah, I'm talking about the challenge. In that challenge,
Speaker 3: she she was.
Speaker 1: Like, where has my Davon gone? Right? She's making a
Speaker 1: face for everybody.
Speaker 3: She looks so spocused, So what was it, y'all was
Speaker 3: just actively ignoring her?
Speaker 4: What was She's she's very harsh with her delivery. It's
Speaker 4: being me harsh. I think people are just blocking her out.
Speaker 4: They don't want to be insulted or cry.
Speaker 3: Ah Okay, did.
Speaker 1: She make someone cry in the house?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean she's she's very offensive. I
Speaker 4: mean my first matt her was very offended. I didn't
Speaker 4: get that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what show you I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that. Even the way she told Colleen
Speaker 1: what she told Colleen, which is fair to set boundaries,
Speaker 1: but the way she dismissively was like, I like, dude,
Speaker 1: Colleen's trying to be nice to you when you no
Speaker 1: one else is listening to you. You could have some
Speaker 1: great communicate the right and you here like, no, girl,
Speaker 1: just be quiet.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: I would have just if I were Colleen, I literally
Speaker 1: would have just gotten up and walked away. And I
Speaker 1: would have said nothing else, just.
Speaker 4: Gotten up and walked away, dude. But also that you
Speaker 4: can see that you know she's somebody who you know.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say the wrong word, tip, but
Speaker 4: I just feel like to be crying over who in
Speaker 4: a room with I'm like, come on, yeah, oh, adults,
Speaker 4: I mean that's a bit much.
Speaker 1: Although it was shady shout out to shady production in
Speaker 1: a good way, but like the montage of everybody having
Speaker 1: an excuse Michelle, I would, I would, but I'm allergic
Speaker 1: to the color of this room. And then he was,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I would. I wanted to room here,
Speaker 1: as she's sitting in the corner like that was hard
Speaker 1: to watch, and then she started being noxious, but that
Speaker 1: part was hard to watch.
Speaker 4: Listen, I have people who don't want to be in
Speaker 4: a room with me. Do you know how much rejection
Speaker 4: I got. I went onto everything, like person in the room, things.
Speaker 4: I have a reputation of being messy, which I've.
Speaker 1: Already first five minutes of this podcast. Yes, yes, but
Speaker 1: we it's entertainment and we live for it.
Speaker 3: Can't we give a shout out to the we're on
Speaker 3: the suitcase. I said, that's my girl, that's my girl.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love how far we've come, by the way
Speaker 1: that we can just do that, that is just I
Speaker 1: love how yeslators, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in order people like nobody, I don't want
Speaker 4: to be in a room with you and then straight
Speaker 4: off with me. You're messy. I had remancy keep food
Speaker 4: in your bed under the pillow, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: fir enough, Okay, it's fine.
Speaker 1: I wait, you play food under the bed and in
Speaker 1: your pillow, Big Tea.
Speaker 3: I was gonna slide past, Big Tea.
Speaker 1: What are we doing?
Speaker 3: She might want a little nibble in the middle of
Speaker 3: the night. It's right in a little finger tips.
Speaker 4: You never know, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with all this, Tea.
Speaker 1: I need to take a moment to just sit and
Speaker 1: think about it. So we're gonna take a break.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 1: This group seems like a lot of partiers this season, Like,
Speaker 1: how is this different for you, Big Tea compared to
Speaker 1: previous seasons.
Speaker 4: I have to say, you know, every cast is very gorgeous,
Speaker 4: but I have to say I felt like this cast
Speaker 4: was exceptionally gorgeous. Agree. I was looking at all the
Speaker 4: girls like, holy moly, I agree, everyone absolutely stunning girls, guys, wonderful,
Speaker 4: wonderful combination. And also, yeah, I mean the fact that
Speaker 4: you know everybody, no one's champ, A lot of new faces,
Speaker 4: A lot of people have just done one season or
Speaker 4: two seasons, so it was different. And did you know what?
Speaker 4: Initially I had quite a fear because I was just like,
Speaker 4: I think if the game is quite newty, you can
Speaker 4: be more harsh. I think because I feel like when
Speaker 4: you play the game for so many seasons, you know
Speaker 4: certain moves are how they affect people. So I was
Speaker 4: just like, wow, this young fresh blood, like this is
Speaker 4: gonna be dirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah you are. You are messy.
Speaker 2: No, That's what I was going to ask you, Like,
Speaker 2: how much higher was your confidence level coming in knowing
Speaker 2: that there was no chance the playing field was very even,
Speaker 2: like no chance to overcome like we hear, How did
Speaker 2: that feel like your confidence booths?
Speaker 4: No, that didn't give me a confidence boost at all,
Speaker 4: because I don't underrest me anyone because I see potential
Speaker 4: in everyone to be a champ, genuinely. But I guess
Speaker 4: from day one. I was confident for the first hour,
Speaker 4: which was a mistake because I was like, wow, I
Speaker 4: have a massive alliance.
Speaker 3: It was the Big Ta bunch.
Speaker 1: I was like, what ar the squares?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 1: That was cute. That was cute. I loved how they
Speaker 1: did that. I loved how they did that. And this
Speaker 1: is your first challenge working as one large team. How
Speaker 1: would you rate your performance? Big Ta, how would you
Speaker 1: rate your performance?
Speaker 4: I actually thought I did really well, like in that
Speaker 4: daily challenge. This is the thing which actually irritates me.
Speaker 4: I feel as if people made their decision against me
Speaker 4: due to past performances of me, not to do with
Speaker 4: the performance that I agree because at the end of
Speaker 4: the day number one, I'm not just saying this because
Speaker 4: Melissa is my god, but like she was one of
Speaker 4: the people that got the most to mount of poles
Speaker 4: from the side to the boys, which is why she's
Speaker 4: one of the last people to climb up the wall.
Speaker 4: Myself included. I made sure I got as many poles
Speaker 4: because some of the girls just got one pole or yeah,
Speaker 4: big hole, and I just went up against the wall,
Speaker 4: we were lifting those things, and you had the guys
Speaker 4: being like, oh, this is heavy. To quite frank, I
Speaker 4: didn't find that happy it was. I didn't find that
Speaker 4: that's right. I didn't. Melissa didn't find it heavy either.
Speaker 4: So I just feel like that was quite interesting feedback.
Speaker 4: I think we were just targeted from day one at
Speaker 4: the moment, no matter.
Speaker 1: I sort of felt like that.
Speaker 4: I I found as if, no matter how good or
Speaker 4: bad my performance was, I was going to be targeted. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think so. I feel like a
Speaker 1: part of it was, at least from what we saw
Speaker 1: in Corey's conversation, around people recognizing that you're smart and
Speaker 1: that you did have the ability to potentially sway. I mean,
Speaker 1: he said at one point like I'm afraid that if
Speaker 1: Big T even gets word of this, the whole house
Speaker 1: will flip. And so that speaks to your power and what,
Speaker 1: you know, what they thought about out you. Did you
Speaker 1: kind of consider yourself knowing that there weren't any champs
Speaker 1: in the house and that you have done seasons before
Speaker 1: and have done a good job. Did you consider yourself
Speaker 1: sort of an elder here because you've done so many
Speaker 1: elders or you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, firstly, I don't like the e watt like a senior.
Speaker 1: Better, that's okay, No, look, it's fine. Look it never
Speaker 1: applies in the same way it does to bananas, So
Speaker 1: you're fine, it's fine.
Speaker 3: You were the most bit of the vets.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. I did not feel like an
Speaker 4: elder or a senior. But what I did feel was,
Speaker 4: for the first time in my Chinese experience, I felt
Speaker 4: like a bat. I was like, wow, I do because
Speaker 4: I'm always like feel like I'm a forever rookie at all.
Speaker 4: But now it's just like down. It's I am a
Speaker 4: bad down.
Speaker 1: And we saw that in your moves as you made
Speaker 1: sort of this master plan, which I live for because
Speaker 1: I am smart. Because it seems like the girls weren't
Speaker 1: even considering that at all, and it wasn't click. You
Speaker 1: risked yourself to sort of put that, you know, to
Speaker 1: put it out there like that. So when did this
Speaker 1: sort of creep into your mind that Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do the girl play offensive against the guys.
Speaker 4: Immediately immediately once we lost that first challenge, I just
Speaker 4: knew because I feel as if in society in general,
Speaker 4: I feel like men tend to bunch together and they
Speaker 4: kind of will plant seeds, and women do turn against
Speaker 4: each other. I just feel like it's unfortunate passing the
Speaker 4: human natures. I was like, I need to prevent this
Speaker 4: from happening, because at the end of the day, TJ
Speaker 4: has not said it's going to regard elimination boy, elimination
Speaker 4: girl boy. He's not said that. We don't know, So
Speaker 4: let's do whatever we can stick together because the end
Speaker 4: of the day, I'm not saying that men are stronger
Speaker 4: than women. But I just felt like, you know, us Scars,
Speaker 4: if it was just like an all female final, that
Speaker 4: would be actually legendary powerful. It hasn't happened, and that's
Speaker 4: what I wanted to happen.
Speaker 2: Nars was right there with you been at the end,
Speaker 2: but she came right on in there. She had the
Speaker 2: same ideas you, and I was like, come on, I
Speaker 2: need I.
Speaker 1: Was like, we're not letting us, you know, turn into
Speaker 1: did you if the guys had said, if even one
Speaker 1: or two of the guys had said that they wanted
Speaker 1: to vote a guy out, would you have backed off
Speaker 1: that plan or do you feel like you still would
Speaker 1: have stuck to it needs to be guys versus girls.
Speaker 4: No, I mean I wouldn't have backed off because the
Speaker 4: end of the day, like the whole my whole leg
Speaker 4: incentive was just to create unity amongst US women and
Speaker 4: to stay strong because I felt like, you know, this
Speaker 4: is the beginning. It's that's a president of what you
Speaker 4: throughout the game, how you start the game. So if
Speaker 4: we girls stick together, united and strong, and the boys, no,
Speaker 4: actually there's no weak changes and we can't infiltrate into
Speaker 4: this strong gal gollpower.
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely. We saw a great example of that
Speaker 1: with USA two recently, with the group I referred to
Speaker 1: as Desney's child, Mikayla, uh Desi and Chanel. But they
Speaker 1: really they came out from the jump united af and
Speaker 1: they stayed united all the way to the end. And they,
Speaker 1: I mean they looked almost borderline unbreakable, and it was
Speaker 1: really powerful as rookies what they were able to accomplish
Speaker 1: in doing that. So you were you were right on
Speaker 1: target day, What do you think you would have done?
Speaker 1: Would you have instantly gone for the guys? Would you
Speaker 1: have instantly changed your mind to be to vote Jessica
Speaker 1: in When Jessica started giving that terrible ass speech about
Speaker 1: why she shouldn't be voted in.
Speaker 3: Oh Jessica, baby, what was that about? Like she was
Speaker 3: I thought she was pleading her case in the beginning,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: She took a sharp left turn and I was like, baby,
Speaker 2: the road is it's end of the Where are you going?
Speaker 2: I was so confused, so my mind, I'm looking at
Speaker 2: the guys, I'm sizing them up.
Speaker 3: I threw James in here, quick, get him out of here.
Speaker 3: He got to go, James huge, he got to go.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that in the final get
Speaker 2: him out of here. But once she started doing all
Speaker 2: of that talk, and I was like, oh, baby, they
Speaker 2: ain't even own me. No right, everybody gonna send you it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so when Berna it was like a domino effect.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, which.
Speaker 1: We knew what happened right, Like Berner being the first
Speaker 1: one to set the ground work. It was super easy
Speaker 1: for everyone. I mean, I feel like this is the
Speaker 1: most united you've seen the challenge except for harass behind.
Speaker 1: This was so united. How do you feel about Horacio today,
Speaker 1: Big Ta, By the way, I adore him.
Speaker 4: I really really like him, And you know, I have
Speaker 4: to say in that moment, I was just like, harassy, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's why I am salty. I'm honestly like, he's a fishy,
Speaker 4: not hot to me anymore.
Speaker 1: I love that. That was hilarious. But Gina, why do
Speaker 1: you think he did that big tea? Did you feel
Speaker 1: blindsided when he said your name?
Speaker 4: I was disannoyed because I was just trying to keep
Speaker 4: her low profile and I wants that name sad on
Speaker 4: this stage. Was like, don't give me attention right now, harassio.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But to be honest, I really respect him for doing
Speaker 4: that because he is not a sheep, and I feel
Speaker 4: like there are too many people who follow suit who
Speaker 4: are sheep, who are perphaps make big mimes because they're like.
Speaker 1: Oh, but was it a big move? Because he knew
Speaker 1: it already, didn't have the votes, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it kind of gave pick me energy a little.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he wanted to make that known at the
Speaker 2: very beginning. I don't care what y'all got going on.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what I want to do this yet.
Speaker 2: So even though she's not going in, but I'm letting
Speaker 2: you know today moving forward, I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: that guy, so yeah, but I feel.
Speaker 1: Like, but do you need to play those cards so
Speaker 1: early on, Like anytime you let people know what your
Speaker 1: stance is going to be, I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: street strategic time to release that, and at a time
Speaker 1: when the number wouldn't have gone his way anyway, because
Speaker 1: she already had nineteen thousand votes. The one vote for
Speaker 1: Big T wasn't going to change anything. It just felt like, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like some people want to be different so bad.
Speaker 1: And while I understand and respect saying I have my
Speaker 1: own voice, I mean that's like being in a choir
Speaker 1: and the choir instructors like, Okay, we're about to sing,
Speaker 1: you know, all I want for Christmas is you, and
Speaker 1: you start saying a difference, singing a side of the
Speaker 1: Nights little song when the whole choir singing something else.
Speaker 1: That is not the time and if it's no one
Speaker 1: sit down. That's how I felt about Horasio in that moment.
Speaker 1: And also I love you, Big T, but but I
Speaker 1: felt like if he was doing that and he was
Speaker 1: the first one to vote cool, you're you're showing your strength.
Speaker 1: You can flex whatever, but now you're gonna do it
Speaker 1: in the middle, they're already on the second verse of
Speaker 1: the song and you talking about let's change it up, Like,
Speaker 1: do you think big T?
Speaker 2: Does that make you think at any point that maybe
Speaker 2: the guys all got together and said, you know what,
Speaker 2: one PC tonight, we're gonna do big T.
Speaker 3: And then once Bernard did her vote, they all flipped
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that really showed me that he was obviously just
Speaker 4: sticking to the plan that was yeah, because I was like,
Speaker 4: that didn't just come from nowhere. I just feel like
Speaker 4: Carass wasn't just like pulled my name out of the sky.
Speaker 4: There was definitely conversations that happened, So he.
Speaker 1: Was sticking to a plan that he agreed to with
Speaker 1: the group, likely a majority, which could be sheeplike behavior.
Speaker 1: But he didn't cheap okay, cool, just I just wanted
Speaker 1: to lay that out there that that's how got it,
Speaker 1: got it, got it? Yeah, it didn't seem to make
Speaker 1: a ton of sense. Do you think him saying your
Speaker 1: name in that moment, though, contributed to the likelihood of
Speaker 1: Jessica then calling you out because your name was the
Speaker 1: one she had most recently sort of heard in that moment.
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, you know, Okay, listen, Jessica. Little is Jessica.
Speaker 4: I have a problem with this because she is crying
Speaker 4: throughout the thing, being like, I don't want to be
Speaker 4: the first one home because everyone under reestimates me because
Speaker 4: of my size, because I'm small, so people think I'm weak.
Speaker 4: It's not fair, honey, you're calling me weak. We are
Speaker 4: the same height. Actually I think I'm slightly shorter than you. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm not so skinny anymore, but like.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 4: Period, but we're put in the same category. So for
Speaker 4: you to put somebody who's attatch Gris in the same
Speaker 4: bracket as you and calling them out as Week, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: my love, like you are not getting my sympathy. And
Speaker 4: the fact is she even said there's no bad blood
Speaker 4: between me and but Tea.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was I was.
Speaker 3: Speak on my behalf.
Speaker 1: Is there still bad blood?
Speaker 2: Was we?
Speaker 4: No? Absolutely, not the games again. But but I will
Speaker 4: be honest in that moment, I was because don't don't
Speaker 4: do that. Don't be upset about being called week and
Speaker 4: then called others week. It doesn't make sense, Jessica. And
Speaker 4: alongside the whole I don't care about winning the money
Speaker 4: and that whole speech I'm like, that was a.
Speaker 1: Mess that I would just give it away anyway. But
Speaker 1: then I'm like, that was I just I mean, I
Speaker 1: really wanted someone to just be like Jessica just sit
Speaker 1: back and just just sit back.
Speaker 4: I mean that was wild.
Speaker 3: That was But see, who did you who did you
Speaker 3: think she was going to pick?
Speaker 4: I thought she was going to pick Olivia or Nourice?
Speaker 1: Really why.
Speaker 4: Because I had a conversation with her and no, no,
Speaker 4: because she's she before this speech, she said I could
Speaker 4: go for the people who were plotting against me, but
Speaker 4: instead I'm not going to take revenge. I'm going to
Speaker 4: go and help the team and take out the weakest player.
Speaker 1: Wait that's literally what she said. See that's so shady.
Speaker 1: And she called you week in front of the whole group.
Speaker 1: But then you just proved the weakest player was the
Speaker 1: one who lost.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean took her out. That hammer came
Speaker 3: up so quick.
Speaker 4: It was quite fun.
Speaker 3: Come on myself. Yeah, she'd been cooking in the kitchen,
Speaker 3: in and the gym. Come on, it is, it's so wild,
Speaker 3: big t. I want to get your take on.
Speaker 1: So we see you mentioned before that on the night
Speaker 1: before when you guys were all partying and then had
Speaker 1: to sleep outside like bagbones that you started to see
Speaker 1: a little bit of the blossom or the beginning the
Speaker 1: seeds planted for Michelle and Callum. Right, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: And day I want to hear yours too when we
Speaker 1: see Michelle do the right thing. Props to Michelle on this,
Speaker 1: which is do you have a girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no?
Speaker 1: You know, like she's like, let me know what's happening.
Speaker 1: Let's get clear. We see Michelle and I appreciate that
Speaker 1: they left that moment in there because they could have
Speaker 1: easily not shown us that. But I appreciate that it's
Speaker 1: clear Michelle's trying to do the right thing. And he
Speaker 1: says no, he said the situation shit and then we
Speaker 1: see him talking to this girl now production shitty shit.
Speaker 1: Production definitely labeled it Callum's girlfriend, but then talking about
Speaker 1: I love you. What are you all's thoughts about all
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 4: Okay, firstly, I wish Michelle had shared with us that
Speaker 4: she knew that Colin had someone on the outside, because
Speaker 4: that's not how she was approaching the situation. Yeah, she didn't.
Speaker 4: She she well to me personally because I was one
Speaker 4: of her roommates. She never disclosed to me that Calum
Speaker 4: was honest to her about the situation. She was just like,
Speaker 4: I heard from somewhere that, you know, maybe there's someone outside.
Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, there is. I heard it too,
Speaker 4: and yeah, and I felt bad because I thought I
Speaker 4: was the one who was grasping Calumn lame behold. Michelle
Speaker 4: already knew. So I didn't think that was that I
Speaker 4: foun in her heart. And yeah, but it.
Speaker 1: Seemed like she didn't know the degree, if we're being fair,
Speaker 1: that he had made it. He made it seem like.
Speaker 4: It was some that's a girlfriend to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, oh, you told her girlfriend, absolutely, because
Speaker 1: I had. But he didn't.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 1: On the show, he says, no, she explicitly asked, and
Speaker 1: he said, and I wonder if that conversation happened after
Speaker 1: she had spoken to you or before. But she explicitly asked,
Speaker 1: girl like yes or no?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: And he says no.
Speaker 4: All right, right, that's quite anol of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not you trying to blame Michelle.
Speaker 3: She he lied.
Speaker 1: He lied, that was on top of it. That's not
Speaker 1: on camera.
Speaker 4: I didn't think that's fair on Michelle.
Speaker 3: MTVS can't write.
Speaker 4: He's gonna come back and.
Speaker 1: Then talking about I love you, love you, love you,
Speaker 1: I miss I want to go home and see you.
Speaker 4: I was shocked at that, to be honest, I didn't
Speaker 4: yet the fact that she was the phone call home
Speaker 4: was just.
Speaker 1: Like yes, wild And then in confessional that he said,
Speaker 1: but Michelle, but you didn't tell me Michelle was gonna
Speaker 1: be here. She's one of one. I mean, perhaps to
Speaker 1: Michelle for being recognized as one of one, but that
Speaker 1: is so shady to his girl back home. The girlfriend
Speaker 1: is gonna see that and be like, well, what number
Speaker 1: I might number gone number black number, do not call back.
Speaker 4: That was not a smart way from his parts at all.
Speaker 4: But but but you know, it seemed genuine. You know,
Speaker 4: Michelle is a beautiful woman. I feel like he was
Speaker 4: genuinely attrapped to her, you know. And I'm not saying
Speaker 4: what he did was right at all. It's completely wrong,
Speaker 4: but yeah, at least I feel like he genuinely must
Speaker 4: have been confused.
Speaker 3: That does not make it better that Challenge House.
Speaker 2: You just start making bad decisions in the Challenge House.
Speaker 2: You just make all these bad decisions. Because he not
Speaker 2: the first one to get caught up. He ain't gonna
Speaker 2: be the later it was like.
Speaker 1: But that's just a whole, assthmath, it's just literally a whole,
Speaker 1: just a whole, I mean to blatantly be like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see. I'm curious to see though, how
Speaker 1: that all plays out and where that goes.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything.
Speaker 1: And there's more. We're gonna see more of it.
Speaker 2: You know. It's a lot of kissing and you know,
Speaker 2: googlely eyes going on. You know so far this season?
Speaker 3: Were you googly eye? And anybody this season?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Victim? We remember you back in the Logan days
Speaker 1: in bed uh learning Spanish or whatever he might Shakespearean? Yes, yes, girl,
Speaker 1: who are you canoodling with this season? Or who should
Speaker 1: we keep an eye out for?
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to find out. You'll be surprised. You
Speaker 4: will be surprised.
Speaker 1: So wait, how surprised will I be? Victim? Now? I
Speaker 1: really wouldn't know.
Speaker 4: You base. Literally, it's gonna play your socks off. You're
Speaker 4: not gonna see this one coming.
Speaker 1: Ooh did your socks get blown off?
Speaker 4: Big d while you're in one one of them kept
Speaker 4: blowing off just slid okay, a.
Speaker 1: Little off the pick it up just a little bit
Speaker 1: all right, all right. So one thing that was a
Speaker 1: good I don't know if I would to call a
Speaker 1: surprise whatever it was, though it was joyful, was the
Speaker 1: way you kicked button this elimination when you found out
Speaker 1: what you had to do. Were you automatically feeling confident
Speaker 1: like when TJ explained the rules or were you like,
Speaker 1: oh god, like, what did you think the odds were
Speaker 1: before you?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 1: Actually, you know, before TJ blew the horn to say go,
Speaker 1: do you know what?
Speaker 4: I wasn't even thinking about Jessica Ashwall. All I was
Speaker 4: thinking in my head was CT's advice actually from previous seasons,
Speaker 4: which is stay calm. And I was thinking about my
Speaker 4: past eliminations where I had gone wrong because the moment
Speaker 4: that blows that horn, I was just literally like in
Speaker 4: the past and elimination against Amanda, I remember I had
Speaker 4: to turn these cogwheels. Instead of being strategic, I was
Speaker 4: literally just turning these cog wheels as fast as I can,
Speaker 4: so I burnt myself out. So I was just thinking
Speaker 4: to myself, stay calm. You need to think like a
Speaker 4: vat and you need to think what you're going to
Speaker 4: do strategically, And do you think step by step and
Speaker 4: when so I was just breathing in and out saloonely.
Speaker 4: I remember I saw Jessica kind of waving and smiling
Speaker 4: to people in the corner of my eye. I was
Speaker 4: just like locked in.
Speaker 1: And I was waiting when you were competing or before
Speaker 1: he blew the horn, before he blew the horn. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys should think.
Speaker 4: It's so mad. I was just absolutely locked in. Also,
Speaker 4: I was terrified, you guys. I was just like, I
Speaker 4: have come back from retirement. I can't be the first
Speaker 4: one to go. I'm that here I have And for myself,
Speaker 4: I was just I really want to build myself esteem,
Speaker 4: my confidence. I have to win an elimination and it's
Speaker 4: just so long.
Speaker 1: Did it build yourself a scene in confidence winning that elimination?
Speaker 4: I would say it made me less fearful of going
Speaker 4: down as the elimination brand, and to win one. I
Speaker 4: was just like, Okay, did.
Speaker 3: You see her polls? When she fail in a row?
Speaker 1: I was the cutest. I like, you better enjoy that girl? Yes?
Speaker 1: So good? Do you feel like it was actually good
Speaker 1: because it showed for all the chatter that was about
Speaker 1: you being weak? Right? Do you feel because not only
Speaker 1: did you win this elimination? I mean, it seemed like
Speaker 1: you pretty much dominated it. Did you like? What was
Speaker 1: the time difference on that? By the way, do you know?
Speaker 4: I mean not to blame my own trumpet, but yes,
Speaker 4: I finished very early. The elimination didn't last very long.
Speaker 3: I love how I guess should see the key pace
Speaker 3: she's making.
Speaker 1: Love that? So do you feel like it's in a
Speaker 1: message though, to those who are doubting you and maybe
Speaker 1: weren't so familiar with your game that like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're not just smart, you're not just charismatic, but you're
Speaker 1: also you can kick guess.
Speaker 4: You know. I would love that to be the message.
Speaker 4: But I think to change one's reputation, you have to
Speaker 4: win more than one elimination, you know, And I think
Speaker 4: you probably have to go up against a champ or
Speaker 4: something and when to fully get people's attention, because a
Speaker 4: reputation doesn't get changed overnight.
Speaker 2: You're not where I do want to ask you this,
Speaker 2: what is your definition of the term challenge champ.
Speaker 3: And what does that mean to you?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's an interesting question. I think you're really champion
Speaker 4: when you're champion of your own heart, when you are
Speaker 4: proud of yourself because people can call you a champion,
Speaker 4: but maybe you might feel like the win wasn't fair,
Speaker 4: or you knew you could have done that. You might
Speaker 4: have won by ten seconds, but you knew you could
Speaker 4: have won by twenty seconds, so deep down you're like, wow,
Speaker 4: I didn't do my best. I think the term champ
Speaker 4: for me is when you literally put your blood, sweat
Speaker 4: and tears and you know done well. You know, there
Speaker 4: have been times when I felt like a champ because
Speaker 4: I've faced my fears. I might not have gone to
Speaker 4: the final and won it, but I've gone the farthest
Speaker 4: I've ever been in the game, and for me, that's
Speaker 4: that I'm my own champ. And I think you have
Speaker 4: to take the small w's and appreciate them, you know,
Speaker 4: because it's not always the destination. It's the journey, you know,
Speaker 4: and you've got to appreciate every step because you never know,
Speaker 4: you know, when this opportunity be taken away. You can't
Speaker 4: be like, oh, I know I did my best this season,
Speaker 4: but I'll wait for next season, next season exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: So that's my ethos.
Speaker 1: You said you took notes after watching this episode. We
Speaker 1: saw you with your pin and paper. Are there any
Speaker 1: notes that we missed that you wanted to get off
Speaker 1: your chair there?
Speaker 4: Yes, Actually I do have some notes that we have
Speaker 4: not discussed. Firstly, I would like to say I feel
Speaker 4: like the boys really really actually blamed the girls. But
Speaker 4: you can see on it both parts. There was some
Speaker 4: you know, komfuffle, and I think equally like, yes, I
Speaker 4: know the puzzle part went to the shambles, but I
Speaker 4: mean the getting over the wall wasn't exactly the smoothest
Speaker 4: of procedures. Okay, Rady discussed this, but I was really
Speaker 4: appreciative of Nourice speaking out fending us girls, and she
Speaker 4: actually spoke out and really liked that, and Raven did
Speaker 4: that as well. And then I guess the negative part
Speaker 4: was the fact that Berner was already targeting Melissa and
Speaker 4: I when she was definitely whistling a different tune to
Speaker 4: our faces. So what was she saying? Basically that she
Speaker 4: was with us and like she wanted to be with us.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think she was targeting you too, because I.
Speaker 4: Think people were very threatened by Melissa's a nice friendship
Speaker 4: because at end of the day, like I think, when
Speaker 4: you come in with such a strong alliance. I mean,
Speaker 4: maybe tiny, just Melissa and I mighty punt, it's still
Speaker 4: a strong A strong friendship is a strong friendship, and
Speaker 4: I think people in the Challenge house to find that
Speaker 4: intimidating actually, which I know and you know, which is
Speaker 4: why initially we did not want to show how close
Speaker 4: we were coming into the season.
Speaker 1: So that was nice to held that for about ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Big Team would second to speaking of secrets, Oh go ahead, day.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know how did it feel hearing
Speaker 2: watching the episode and hearing the girl say that Melissa
Speaker 2: was your crutch?
Speaker 1: And do you know what?
Speaker 4: I found that very interesting And it's fine. Let them
Speaker 4: not understand this relationship that I have with my friend.
Speaker 4: Keep underestimating me and not understanding my situations, because that
Speaker 4: is how you are going to get tripped up by Moir,
Speaker 4: So keep doing it. I'm fine with it. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that, speaking of underestimating, So you guys are
Speaker 1: in this house, TJ. Lets you know that there are
Speaker 1: no rookies there, but there are also no champs there,
Speaker 1: so you guys are probably feeling good. There's none of
Speaker 1: the usual suspects that we see now the viewers, we've
Speaker 1: already gotten a preview of the fact of what and
Speaker 1: who is to come and what it's going to take
Speaker 1: to win this season in terms of having to be
Speaker 1: champions and some amazing vets. Did you guys have any
Speaker 1: inkling that this was going to be happening in the house?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. However, so as you can see on the
Speaker 4: first I guess no elimination, the first challenge we kind
Speaker 4: of did when we sleepover in the elimination bround, you
Speaker 4: see names on the ground and all the names the
Speaker 4: names of champs. So we're just thinking, why are these
Speaker 4: champs names? But we had no idea what that had
Speaker 4: to do with, but we just knew had something to
Speaker 4: do with that, so that was more shadowing.
Speaker 1: I like it production.
Speaker 4: I like it absolutely sure. When I saw cet that
Speaker 4: on that trailer, just I.
Speaker 1: Was just like, so so good, Okay, big t. I
Speaker 1: want to know before we before we go what so
Speaker 1: far And I know we're only one episode in, but
Speaker 1: so far, what would you say you're the least proud
Speaker 1: of that you've done in the game? And then I
Speaker 1: want to know what you're most proud of that you've
Speaker 1: done so far?
Speaker 4: In the game overall, in my entire challenge experience, no.
Speaker 1: In this season.
Speaker 4: Least proud of.
Speaker 1: And it could be something we didn't see. It could
Speaker 1: be behind the scenes least.
Speaker 4: Proud of being naive and thinking I'd come into the
Speaker 4: game with such a huge web of alliances.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I think that was probably overconfident in my part and silly,
Speaker 4: so I think it got a bit comfortable too early on.
Speaker 4: And I'm most proud of winning that elimination. In the
Speaker 4: time that I did. You guys have felt so good.
Speaker 4: I was so right through that ahammer.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: And also because I'm terrified of heights as well, and
Speaker 4: that glass box is going up and up. I was
Speaker 4: just like, no, tea to not be scared of heights
Speaker 4: right now, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love that so much, love that so so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I al say just to say all my
Speaker 4: notes as well, I just want to say thank you
Speaker 4: so much. And was such a wonderful Villa because that
Speaker 4: was the most gorgeous Challenge house ever. It was very
Speaker 4: to my standards. It's very to my standards.
Speaker 1: Good job on production form making it to Big T's standards.
Speaker 4: They listen to my request. So very happy and grateful,
Speaker 4: Big T.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy you back.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm so proud of you for you know, saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna take a Break'm gonna focus
Speaker 2: on school, graduate and then you know, living your best life.
Speaker 2: But then also coming back seeing you play and just
Speaker 2: the person you are, your personality is very contagious even
Speaker 2: through the screen, and so like, I'm just I'm so
Speaker 2: happy that your energy is back in that house and
Speaker 2: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: To watch you this season absolutely much.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm so grateful to have opportunity to come back.
Speaker 4: And you know, it was such wonderful feeling because it's
Speaker 4: so weird because you know, you retire and I come
Speaker 4: back into the house and I she just felt like
Speaker 4: I'm home. I know, it's a bunch of faces that
Speaker 4: a lot of them majority I didn't recognize, but I
Speaker 4: was just like, I'm home. And you know, alongside feeling
Speaker 4: like that, I felt like, you know, I belong here
Speaker 4: and that was such and winning that elimination made me
Speaker 4: feel eving more was like, yes, Tea, this is where
Speaker 4: I'm meant to be, And that was just such I'm
Speaker 4: going to mention that such a wonderful feeling. Sorry, you're
Speaker 4: so cute.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: Sorry, No, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Wait did you cook it all in the Challenge House
Speaker 1: since you're a chef?
Speaker 4: Now, I did cook and everyone loved it.
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet they have a psychologist this season.
Speaker 1: They have a chef this season. There, I mean serious,
Speaker 1: right right, like this is the season, Like this is
Speaker 1: the season to be on.
Speaker 3: I'd be booking time with Big T and Colleen all season.
Speaker 1: Wild. All right, big T, you've given us so much
Speaker 1: tea already, but can you give us some names to
Speaker 1: look out for for the rest of the season and
Speaker 1: don't tell us what happens. Just tell us some names
Speaker 1: that we need to look out for.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I don't like to gossip, but
Speaker 4: it's just us, Okay, Corey definitely, mm hmmm, oh mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Do you know what? I actually don't know too many names,
Speaker 4: but I think also from what I've been hearing, Waden Street,
Speaker 4: Olivia m that's the street I thought. I don't know why,
Speaker 4: but I've been hearing.
Speaker 1: Wait, are those the same streets that said people who
Speaker 1: did the same show together are going to be sticking
Speaker 1: together because.
Speaker 3: There's so street.
Speaker 4: He's a more reliable street.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I just I just needed I just need
Speaker 1: a picture. Should we be looking out for you as well?
Speaker 1: Because I saw in the little preview for coming up
Speaker 1: it looks like I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is there some Yeah, definitely a lot of tea containing
Speaker 4: me involving me. Yeah, always look out for me.
Speaker 1: I go to find out who blew that one socker,
Speaker 1: or at least who took it off a tell. So right,
Speaker 1: A lot to watch for those who want to keep
Speaker 1: watching this season, but watch along with you in real life?
Speaker 1: Where can they find you on social guys?
Speaker 4: You know you can check me out on Instagram, which
Speaker 4: is Big Tea Faz. And I'm also on Twitter now.
Speaker 4: I love doing Twitter lies even though none of you
Speaker 4: actually come on them to the og Big Tea, so
Speaker 4: please follow me. I actually had to buy my followers embarrassing,
Speaker 4: so I cannot Big.
Speaker 1: Tea God, I love you you always. We got a
Speaker 1: random are so hilarious? Okay, wait, text me next time
Speaker 1: you're doing a live and I'll join. I'll be day
Speaker 1: and I'll be in the group, right, Okay, I'll hold
Speaker 1: you to you that I will. I will I promise
Speaker 1: a cinder text. Cinder text will be there. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Big Tea for coming on. We are so
Speaker 1: so so happy to have you back and to see
Speaker 1: you in action and all the okay web and watching you.
Speaker 1: This episode especially was just the perfect way to kick
Speaker 1: it off and see you get underestimated but prove to
Speaker 1: everyone just how phenomenal you are. I hope to see
Speaker 1: that swag carry on in the season and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see all the mess that you alluded to.
Speaker 3: Ladies.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me like, it's been
Speaker 4: so much fun having a chat with you, and I've
Speaker 4: got a bit emotional in the end, but you know,
Speaker 4: this is such a wonderful journey. It's such a fun
Speaker 4: experience and you know what it's like, and yeah, that's amazing,
Speaker 4: Big t. I love you, guys.
Speaker 3: The Tea was hot, piping hot. Okay, my tongue it's
Speaker 3: still on fire. I can listen here. I'm burned.
Speaker 2: I'm barn, Devin, I'm burnt. She was such a good guess.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad Big Ta came to hang.
Speaker 1: Out with us.
Speaker 3: Man, So now where can the people hang out with you?
Speaker 1: I'm mean find you day. I'm not spelling the kind
Speaker 1: of tea big T speeling, so I would just you know,
Speaker 1: I want to give full disclosure there, but you know,
Speaker 1: we still do some fun stuff over there. You can
Speaker 1: go to my website that's devinsimone dot com. That's Devin
Speaker 1: with a Y Simone with an I dot com. If
Speaker 1: you're single, hey, hit me up on that website and
Speaker 1: maybe I'll match you, because that's my real life job
Speaker 1: as I'm a matchmaker. You can also find my socials
Speaker 1: at the bottom. Davon's making faces when I say that,
Speaker 1: but Davon gets so busy it's hard to don't even
Speaker 1: get me. You know where my number is? And didn't
Speaker 1: I send you the sign up link? Yeah, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about this offline anyway. Okay. You can also find me
Speaker 1: on my socials. They're at the bottom of my website,
Speaker 1: but they're also Instagram's Devin with the Y smith and I,
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Speaker 1: were doing our Amazon Live prive, Dame and I got
Speaker 1: to shout them all out. So thank you guys so
Speaker 1: much for listening to the podcast. We love you and
Speaker 1: love to see you in other places. Davon Sis, because
Speaker 1: I know there was a time you were taking break
Speaker 1: from Twitter, and then there's that infamous YouTube. Where can
Speaker 1: the people find you?
Speaker 2: I am actually back on the YouTube. Okay, hey, when
Speaker 2: when did you post last post? Oh? Any videos up there?
Speaker 2: I posted a short last week.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take it.
Speaker 3: We'll take it. We'll take it. So you can find
Speaker 3: me on YouTube at Davion Diane.
Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram at Davi Davion Diane
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Speaker 3: Just find me everywhere. I'm out here. Okay, I'm out
Speaker 3: here people.
Speaker 1: My favorite place of mind, Davion actually is in memes
Speaker 1: that other people use. When I'm scrolling social media, I
Speaker 1: love seeing the gifts and the memes of Davon's reactions
Speaker 1: to like things that have nothing to do with the Challenge.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: Literally, I've had to stop myself so many times from
Speaker 1: screenshotting and just sending you every time I see that.
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Speaker 1: you guys know we're big proponents of mental health here
Speaker 1: on the Official Challenge podcast, so we wanted to share
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