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Speaker 1: Welcome to This Country Life.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brent Reeves from coon hunting to trot

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Speaker 2: lining and just general country living. I want you to

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Speaker 2: stay a while as I share my experiences in life lessons.

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Speaker 2: This Country Life is presented by Case Knives on Meat

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Speaker 2: Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you the best outdoor podcast.

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Speaker 1: The airwaves have to offer.

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Speaker 2: All right, friends, grab a chair or drop that tailgate.

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Speaker 2: I've got some stories to share. First impressions. There's not

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Speaker 2: a lot of things more impactful or long lasting than

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Speaker 2: a first impression. It is, after all, what we use

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Speaker 2: as an initial reference for anything we remain in contact

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Speaker 2: with over a period of time. There's no lead story

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Speaker 2: this week. The whole episode is a story, and it's

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Speaker 2: about a dog some friends of mine have that just

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Speaker 2: recently reinforced my need for patience and maybe even the

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Speaker 2: little faith. First impressions we all have first in our lives,

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Speaker 2: and the experiences can be as much philosophical and emotional

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Speaker 2: as they are physical. First impressions we get from an

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Speaker 2: experience from the basis of how that activity, person, or

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Speaker 2: place is perceived for the rest of our lives. I

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Speaker 2: can't tell you how many times I've talked to people

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Speaker 2: who found out I was a duck hunter, only to

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Speaker 2: hear you're crazy. There's no way I'd go out in

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Speaker 2: something to taste like liver. I used to try to

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Speaker 2: convince them that first, if they were eating a duck

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Speaker 2: that tasted like liver, they wasn't cooking it right. And second,

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Speaker 2: if I was only out there to get a duck

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Speaker 2: to eat, I could raise my own, or easier still,

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Speaker 2: go to the store and buy one already skint. But

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Speaker 2: that wasn't the deal. I wasn't grocery shopping. I can

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Speaker 2: do that a lot more comfortably pushing a buggy around

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Speaker 2: Kroger while the store radio serenades me with the Marshall

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Speaker 2: Tucker band as I negotiate the traffic down the aisles.

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Speaker 2: But nine times out of ten, the person telling me

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Speaker 2: how they wouldn't do any of that has done it

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Speaker 2: at least once, and the experienced bias their judgment forever

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Speaker 2: on how their next hunt would be. The percentage of

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Speaker 2: people who tell me they wound up getting soaked from

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Speaker 2: tripping and falling in the water because of the unknown

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Speaker 2: leaking their waiters would be high in the majority. At

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Speaker 2: least they tried it, but did they really give it

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Speaker 2: a chance. Not Many people who tried baseball got a

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Speaker 2: hit the first time they stepped into batter's box, and

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Speaker 2: even then, over the course of their career, they only

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Speaker 2: have to get a hit three out of ten times

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Speaker 2: to be considered above average. Be hard to imagine applying

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Speaker 2: wire fences unscathed. I say all of that to say this,

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Speaker 2: In first times. It's easy for us to go into

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Speaker 2: a situation with preconceived notions of how it's going to

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Speaker 2: turn out. If we expect to have a bad time,

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Speaker 2: odds are we probably will. We're not willing the bad

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Speaker 2: times to occur, just only seeing what we thought would happen,

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Speaker 2: and when it does, confirming in our minds that what

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Speaker 2: took place was destined to turn out that way. Oh

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Speaker 2: how wrong that can be and usually is. You've heard

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Speaker 2: me talk about my friends at the cash By Old

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Speaker 2: hunting Club, Randall Whitmore, his brother Wade, and their lifelong

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Speaker 2: friend Brad Clark. Wade lives in Houston, Texas now and

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Speaker 2: doesn't get to visit as much as Randall and Braddew,

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Speaker 2: who lived just east of the Old Man River in

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Speaker 2: Tennessee and Mississippi. But the Whitmore brothers are direct descendants

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Speaker 2: of what many consider to be one of the most

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Speaker 2: knowledgeable and influential coon hunters of the region, the late

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Speaker 2: mister Dick Whitmore. Mister Whitmore had a successful career in

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Speaker 2: the advertising business and new dogs inside and out. He

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Speaker 2: had some great dogs and a good friend and mentor

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Speaker 2: of mine, Rex Whiting, used to hunt dogs for him

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Speaker 2: in competition hunts, and mister Whitmore bought and sold dogs

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Speaker 2: like the most folks do, trying one until they get

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Speaker 2: a good idea of what they think that dog's abilities are.

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Speaker 2: And if there's a better than average chance the dog

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Speaker 2: if not, he gets traded to someone else. One man's

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Speaker 2: in the hound hunting circuits. They're all different. It's like people.

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Speaker 2: They all learn at a different rate, just like people.

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Speaker 2: So when a dog is chosen to join the partnership,

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Speaker 2: a partnership that some say goes back fifteen thousand years.

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Speaker 2: They both need a chance to conform to each other.

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Speaker 2: After all, the human isn't the only one getting the

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Speaker 1: In this deal.

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Speaker 2: I say all that to say this. After mister Whitmore

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Speaker 2: passed away in twenty seventeen, the only coon hunting that

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Speaker 2: by guests when Randall, Wade, and Brad weren't there. They

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Speaker 2: missed the lifestyle and the camaraderie of hunting together and

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Speaker 2: enjoyed hearing about our hunts, And finally, a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, Randal and Brad decided they'd go in on

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Speaker 2: coon hunting and had a strong desire to get back

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Speaker 2: in it as participants rather than just observers. My friends

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Speaker 2: their first since the passing of mister Whidmore. So the

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Speaker 2: search began for just the right dog. They found one,

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Speaker 2: a nicely bloodlined hound from Louisiana that belonged to a

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Speaker 2: friend of mine. He was only starting to realize his

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Speaker 1: When they acquired him.

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Speaker 2: They knew what they were getting, and what they were

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Speaker 2: equivalent of a toddler in his experience for Tree and coons.

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Speaker 2: Our first impressions with him were good. He's a pretty

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Speaker 2: dog in what seemed to be a good personality, and

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Speaker 2: They bought the dog, and as it should be, one

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Speaker 2: For almost all the two years, and sometimes multiple times

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Speaker 2: after the area in place mister Whitmore enjoyed the most

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Speaker 2: around the Cash River here in Arkansas. It would be

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Speaker 2: starting at nine months of age. I also wasn't expecting

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Speaker 2: and I'd watch Cash sometimes just hang around us when

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Speaker 2: Sometimes he'd slick tree just out of sight, which means

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Speaker 1: Like there was a coon in it, even though there wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Now that's making a boo boot in the coon hunting world,

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Speaker 2: this is a big deal. On the negative side, all

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Speaker 2: dogs do it, some not as much as others, and

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Speaker 2: we can never really truly know the reasons why they do.

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Speaker 1: We only have an educated guess. And until we can teach.

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Speaker 2: we're never gonna know for sure what causes them to

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Speaker 2: You imbecile.

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Speaker 1: No you don't. You're only guessing. You're probably right, But.

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Speaker 2: Can we say one hundred percent no, we can't, So

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Speaker 2: we have to use that and all the other clues

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Speaker 2: Analogy for all the non hound of people who listen.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping, against hope that what I was seeing

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Speaker 2: out of Randolin Brad's dog's cash was gonna taste better

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Speaker 2: when it was done than what it smelled like when

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Speaker 2: would say, be honest with me, now, is this dog

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Speaker 2: then stay there and bark until their master arrives. Seems

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Speaker 2: sure ain't no guarantee that they will or can do it.

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Speaker 2: I wrestled with how to tell them with the football analogy. Look,

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Speaker 1: Transfer portal next year.

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Speaker 2: Now, being a Razorback fan these past few years, you

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Speaker 2: think I know when and how to say that, but

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Speaker 2: I just couldn't pull the trigger on it until last

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Speaker 2: We were hunting one particular night when the conditions were

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Speaker 2: a coon. It was hot and we'd all gathered at

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Speaker 2: the usual spot, Brad, Randall and me and Michael. We

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Speaker 2: the majority, wailing next, and Cash with none again. In

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Speaker 2: the two years I've been hunting around him, I'd never

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Speaker 2: We did everything but climbing ourselves and go from limb

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Speaker 2: to limb looking for him. As we were parting from

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Speaker 2: the hunt, Brad asked us both to think about whether

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Speaker 2: he should keep Cash or talk to Randall about getting

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Speaker 2: to tell Brad find another dog. Cash just wasn't making

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Speaker 2: any progress, and he'd had plenty of opportunities to do so.

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Speaker 2: Brad started looking For a while later, Brad was on

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Speaker 2: the list for a new puppy, and I was on

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Speaker 2: that same list too, but the union didn't take and

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Speaker 2: no puppies were going to be made for that cycle.

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Speaker 2: Brad said, it looks like I was stuck with hunting

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Speaker 2: Cash this winter. I like this dog anyway. I told

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Speaker 2: him it only had to please him, and it didn't

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Speaker 2: matter what I or anybody else thought. I still want

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Speaker 2: to find me a good puppy, but I kind of

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Speaker 2: liked this old dog, he said.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's easy to see why.

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Speaker 2: All through the summer, when I was sitting in the

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Speaker 2: my dad's birthday. Thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 2: me and old Clay Bow and the Bear Grease Channel.

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Speaker 1: I hope all of you had a.

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Speaker 2: Very merry Christmas and visit with the ones that matter most.

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Speaker 1: Until next week. This is Brent Reeves signing off. Y'all

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