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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio, Bill.

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Speaker 2: And UFOs in the White House. You've got great chapters

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Speaker 2: that I had no idea that some of these presidents

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Speaker 2: had UFO incidents or encounters Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt. We

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Speaker 2: jump down though to the World War Two era, because

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Speaker 2: that's when things really get interesting. You know, we start

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Speaker 2: developing the Manhattan Project, that research into atomic energy attracts

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Speaker 2: the attention of something out there, something that seems to

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Speaker 2: be an intelligence of some sort, and we have some

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Speaker 2: FOO fighter incidents and then brief encounters with what we

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Speaker 2: suspect is advanced Nazi technology, and things really start get

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Speaker 2: interesting in that era. Even write about Eleanor Roosevelt having

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Speaker 2: an interest in UFOs because the stories were floating around

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Speaker 2: the White House back then.

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Speaker 3: That's true. One of the things that I believe happened

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Speaker 3: is I believe that we are watched very carefully by ets.

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Speaker 3: I believe ets living here on this planet. In fact,

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Speaker 3: that we did your phone hunters. Maybe we didn't find them,

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Speaker 3: but they certainly found us, and we would get these

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Speaker 3: emissaries from them saying how they live here, how they

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Speaker 3: work here, that they're a part of us and a

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Speaker 3: part of our society. As a part of our society, Assume,

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Speaker 3: just for a second, suspend disbelief. Assume we are a colony,

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Speaker 3: just like the North America was a colony of the British.

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Speaker 3: Assume this planet is a colony of another culture. And

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Speaker 3: how they got here as a whole other story. But

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Speaker 3: assume we are a colony. They've been here for thousands

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Speaker 3: of about hundreds of thousands of years. In fact, they

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Speaker 3: were here in the civilization prior to our civilization, doing

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Speaker 3: that was destroyed by the Great Flood. Assume that what

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Speaker 3: they're doing is they are trying to preserve this colony

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Speaker 3: the way the British Strits was this our colony against

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Speaker 3: the indigenous peoples. So assume they're trying to preserve this colony.

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Speaker 3: What are they preserving it against. Well, they're preserving it

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Speaker 3: against climate change for one. They're preserving it against the

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Speaker 3: technology that could destroy the planet. Also, so that all

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Speaker 3: these stories about how UFOs suddenly appear at times of

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Speaker 3: crisis also applied to nineteen forty to the nineteen forties

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Speaker 3: in World War Two, Assume for a second that the

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Speaker 3: most advanced technological nation on the planet circa nineteen forty

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Speaker 3: one was Nazi Germany, and they're contacted by UFOs. There's

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Speaker 3: a black Forest UFO, there are other UFOs, and the

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Speaker 3: Germans begin to reverse engineer some of this technology. Food fighters,

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Speaker 3: for example, are those types of technology, those orbs, the

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Speaker 3: other UFOs, the messagement jet fighters partly were a reverse

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Speaker 3: engineering of that technology, but Hitler believed that Germans were

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Speaker 3: superior and refused to develop it. That's why it came

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Speaker 3: so late in the war. But the other thing that

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Speaker 3: really concerned them was the development of nuclear fission, because

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Speaker 3: nuclear fission had the possibility and nuclear fusion, of course,

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Speaker 3: had the possibility of destroying life on this planet once

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Speaker 3: and for all. So they intervened. They monitored our sites,

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Speaker 3: they made sure that we weren't doing anything too crazy,

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Speaker 3: and became more and more concerned after we dropped those

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Speaker 3: two bombs on Japan. So Roosevelt knew about this. He

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Speaker 3: was briefed. Of course, Eleanor Roosevelt was brief because at

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Speaker 3: the yard told her about it, and much of it

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Speaker 3: as his Admitdministration was briefed, and so was Harry Truman.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Truman as President in nineteen forty seven when

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Speaker 2: Roswell when things really hit the fan. What is your

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Speaker 2: information about what he knew? Was he informed as immediately?

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Speaker 2: Do you think? If so, who told him and what

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Speaker 2: was he told?

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Speaker 3: He was informed within seconds. He was informed by the

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Speaker 3: Army Air Force General Roger Rainey that something had crashed

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Speaker 3: in Roswell that was not conventional technology. And we know

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Speaker 3: this because when Ramie asked, was that Roswell was at

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Speaker 3: the base, he explained there were two crashes when seventy

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Speaker 3: and he wanted all the Roswell material shipped to Worth.

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Speaker 3: And it was at Fort Worth where Jesse Marcel, the

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Speaker 3: based intelligence officer to five or nine was posing with

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Speaker 3: the material that Raymie told him to go inside and

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Speaker 3: look for material and changed all that Euphoe material to

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Speaker 3: a radar balloon. When Raymie came back, he was made

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Speaker 3: that it was Washington d C. That told him absolutely

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Speaker 3: no revelation about UFOs, and in fact, five years later

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Speaker 3: echelon formations. It was Roger Ramy who said he had

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Speaker 3: a great crisis of conscience. But he told the head

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Speaker 3: of Air Force Intelligence at that time, whatever you do,

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Speaker 3: you cannot say UFOs. Even though a flying saucer had

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Speaker 3: launched by the UFOs themselves, they denied the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: We know that this recent Arrow report says that all

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Speaker 2: these stories about crash saucers and reverse engineering programs hidden

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Speaker 2: in defense contractors, it all stems back to the same

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Speaker 2: and that you know, Roswell is perfectly explained. I guess

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Speaker 2: it is if you believe the US Air Force, which

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Speaker 2: has changed its story multiple times. Oh yeah, we've totally

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Speaker 2: explained this thing. Then they have a new version. The

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Speaker 2: reverse engineering story and UFO crash story did not come

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Speaker 2: from UFO zelots. It came from the US military. They

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Speaker 2: put out the release that said there's a saucer and

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Speaker 2: we've got one, right.

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Speaker 3: That's true. What happened was at very first, at very

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Speaker 3: first moments after the crashes, the AI Air Force was

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Speaker 3: concerned that what it actually crashed at Roswell was a

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Speaker 3: Japanese fogul, a balloon bomb. During World War II, what

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Speaker 3: the Japanese military did was they launched balloon bombs loaded

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Speaker 3: with anthrax to explode over American cities that were carried

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Speaker 3: by the west wind, to land on American cities and explode.

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Speaker 3: What the American war effort mandated was that we couldn't

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Speaker 3: talk about these fire balloons. Couldn't talk about them for

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Speaker 3: two reasons. One, we didn't want to panic the American

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Speaker 3: public that we were being bombed on the West coast

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Speaker 3: by Japanese balloons. That's one. Two, we didn't want the

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Speaker 3: how successful they were landing balloons. They thought the Roswol balloon,

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Speaker 3: that the Roswol crash was just that a Japanese fire balloon.

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Speaker 3: That's why they jumped out of the way they did.

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Speaker 3: When they realized it wasn't a Japanese fire balloon and

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Speaker 3: were actually two crashes, not one, and that there were

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Speaker 3: live creatures from one of those crashes. That's when the

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Speaker 3: War of Silence came down. But they couldn't they couldn't stop.

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Speaker 3: The folks who were actually at the site, like Shadow,

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Speaker 3: George Wilcox, like Flankie Rowe, like a lot of other

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Speaker 3: going on. And in fact, in UFO magazine years ago

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Speaker 3: we published this story. George Wilcox was the Childs County sheriff.

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Speaker 3: He's the one that got a bunch of roswell debris

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Speaker 3: from Billy Brazo and puts it and he put it

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Speaker 3: in Michilvis County jail. His wife, INA's Wilcox, was writing

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Speaker 3: these poor drunks breakfasts. She tells the story of how

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Speaker 3: Brazo comes in, gives this box of material to George Wilcox.

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Speaker 3: He puts it in a jail cell, calls the army.

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Speaker 3: The army comes down, Sheridan Tabot comes down himself. Captain Taviot,

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Speaker 3: head of Army Intelligence, see I see, comes down and

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Speaker 3: he takes them to them and brings it back to

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Speaker 3: to the debris field that ranch and scrub that site.

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Speaker 2: The idea that Jesse Marcel, the intelligence officer for the

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Speaker 2: weather balloon that had crashed on a ranch is preposterous.

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Speaker 2: The idea that Walter HoTT and the lieutenant who wrote

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Speaker 2: the release that said we've recovered this crash disc and

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Speaker 2: then had to change it the next day, you know,

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Speaker 2: before he died. Of course, he gave a sworn statement

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Speaker 2: the effect that I lied, you know, I was ordered

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 2: Really the records that were shown to reporters isn't the

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Speaker 2: same stuff, and he saw bodies. Dubos I think was

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Speaker 2: another of the witnesses, an officer who has substantiated the

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Speaker 2: taken off the right Patterson. These guys were really solid

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Speaker 2: people who spoke about it years later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach Walter Howe told me that he regarded Bill Lanchard,

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Speaker 3: his commanding officer at the five or ninth, as his

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Speaker 3: big brother. That he would drive to Washington, he would

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Speaker 3: drive to Chicago of a braswo's wife to all these things.

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Speaker 3: So he said that he's standing in Hangar eighty two

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Speaker 3: nods at Walter Hout and how knows at that moment

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Speaker 3: that he's part of his cover up, that he will

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Speaker 3: cover up for his voice Will Blanchard, And in fact,

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Speaker 3: years later, years later as radual, as Blanchard is moving

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Speaker 3: have now split, Ranchard says to Walter, howt we really

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Speaker 3: dodged a big one on that one. And that was

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Speaker 3: how he put the cap on that story.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that Harry Truman had made some startlingly accurate,

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Speaker 2: truthful statements about UFOs here and there, but in his administration,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the hammer came down, the wall of secrecy descended,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I guess it's a coincidence at nineteen

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Speaker 2: All this stuff happened, and suddenly all the stuff went

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Speaker 3: That's right. I mean, what happened was that that crash

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Speaker 3: can minimize it, folks can minimize it. All they want

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Speaker 3: really was seminal. It was after that that there was

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Speaker 3: CIA was created. It was after that that all this

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Speaker 3: reverse engineering started. That was a turning point in American

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Speaker 3: When Truman realized not just that we were alone, we

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Speaker 3: knew that, but what he then realized was that they

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Speaker 3: were intersharing in our progress. That was an important step.

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Speaker 2: So why go dark on that? Why keep it a secret?

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Speaker 2: Truman is a plain spoken guy. Wouldn't he just tell

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Speaker 2: I guess he did say it, but it didn't seem

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Speaker 2: must have gone along with us. What would they have

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Speaker 3: What happened was in his administration there were a group

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Speaker 3: eisenhowerd administration. Among them was big Yubrzhinski, Niko Brzinski's father

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Speaker 3: on the Morning Joe. What they did was they formed

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Speaker 3: a study group called MJ twelve. They formed a study

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Speaker 3: group that they knew that it was nineteen forty seven,

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Speaker 3: Truman was going to run again in forty eight, but

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Speaker 3: not specifically for Eisenhower because he hadn't declared his intention

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Speaker 3: to run, but they prepared for the administration a study

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Speaker 3: group of what these creatures were, what this technology was,

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Speaker 3: and what we had to learn from them. That was

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Speaker 3: what MJ twelve did, and they prepared these briefing documents

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Speaker 3: which folks can read on the internet. They're all there

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Speaker 3: and perhaps why they're interacting with us. So therefore, it's

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Speaker 3: no secret that in the summer of nineteen fifty two,

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Speaker 3: the last year of the Truman administration, the UFOs appeared

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Speaker 3: over Washington, DC on two weekends in July, showing themselves

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Speaker 3: to Eisenhower, who was declaring his intention to run. And

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Speaker 3: then in nineteen fifty two, in nineteen fifty three and

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Speaker 3: fifty four, Eisenhower was briefed on UFOs and he had

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Speaker 3: that meeting at Near Rock with the ETS in which

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Speaker 3: they agreed on an open Skies agreement, the first agreement

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Speaker 3: that he proposed to Khrushchev after Krushchev after the Soviet

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Speaker 3: shotdown on U two.

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Speaker 2: So you think that meeting really did happen.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely. I think that Eisenhower had seen UFOs in

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Speaker 3: Washington in fifty two, he'd seen UFOs come out of

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Speaker 3: the water and Operation main Brace in the North Sea

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Speaker 3: when he was the head of it was NATO's first exercise,

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Speaker 3: and Eisenhower was basically our first UFO president to begin

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Speaker 3: amalgamating this technology into American society.

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Speaker 2: I would think of all US presidents that Ike would

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Speaker 2: have been the most informed Supreme Allied commander. He would

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Speaker 2: have had information from the World War II era, and

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Speaker 2: then as president that he would be interested. And then

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Speaker 2: of course we know what his farewell address was beware

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Speaker 2: of the Military Industrial Complex under how much the UFO

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Speaker 2: experience and information that he gathered played a part in

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Speaker 2: his declaration.

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Speaker 3: Of that for whatever it was under, it was under

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Speaker 3: Eisenhower that the Pentagon that the Army started developing plans

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Speaker 3: for a fortified Moon base, fortified base on the lunar surface.

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Speaker 3: And this wasn't just a contingent of astronauts living on

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Speaker 3: the surface. This was an entirely new Folks can read this,

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Speaker 3: by the way, on the Internet Project Horizon. It's all there.

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Speaker 3: This was and I also printed in the back of

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Speaker 3: the day after Roswell. They proposed an entirely new military

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Speaker 3: command composed of artillery, composed of the missile command, composed

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Speaker 3: of logistics, composed of the of the of the Air Force,

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Speaker 3: an entirely new command specifically to fortify the Moon against

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Speaker 3: any Soviet attempt to do the same thing.

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