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Speaker 1: Fuck's going on? Fellas? Hey, Bud, how are you? How

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Speaker 1: you're doing? How your dad? How's gonna? How You're dad?

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Speaker 1: Where is Michael? It is Mike, you're here?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Bro?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm gonna be a hundred dogs Like some ship

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Speaker 4: happened on the internet, but I just can't give a

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Speaker 4: fuck about it. Okay, I just don't care about it,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Is there anything anything on

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Speaker 4: the internet we need to talk about? Can we just

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Speaker 4: jump into Arthur dude?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Hey man?

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Speaker 5: You know, you know, like.

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Speaker 6: Man Rond a nigga rocket and they smile, fucking I'm

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Speaker 6: like that was because, you know, and put his niggas

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Speaker 6: gonna be pussing niggas, you know. So it's just part

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Speaker 6: of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get some money.

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Speaker 6: The niggas want to play your punk, helping shoot that ship.

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Speaker 1: I want to fuck you catching late and you on

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Speaker 1: here to get your dicks.

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Speaker 4: Nigga want to play drop it out for Mecca, nigga,

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Speaker 4: get it hold plash, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to sell drama on it big, built up

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Speaker 1: your whole pop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been I've been off Twinter essentially for like

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Speaker 2: three or four days. I don't feel like I missed anything.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, but they're really ain't ship. Besides Nicki

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Speaker 7: Minas being a fucking nikki.

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Speaker 1: That's like, okay, why is she mad? Like what did

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Speaker 4: Like he did nothing to her but be better than

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Speaker 4: her and what she wants to be good at, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I mean I was gonna say, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 7: get it like this, This will makes sense if she

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Speaker 7: had like completely phone off the map, but she did

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Speaker 7: two hundred down first week, Like dude, really, like you're

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Speaker 7: still a fucking pop megastar.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 4: I just think you know, like the fact that he

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Speaker 4: is number one during the week that she dropped, and

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Speaker 4: like he she says he did it through you know,

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Speaker 4: packaging with his with his uh like it was like

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Speaker 4: a he packages albums.

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Speaker 1: With his merch. Right, She's just the same shit, the

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Speaker 1: same thing she did.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is like this is how this is

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Speaker 4: how he approached how she approaches.

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Speaker 1: It's two different things. Like the way she approached.

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Speaker 4: If you look at her merch, it's like Nicki Nicky, Nicki,

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Speaker 4: Nicki Nicki right, Like it's.

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, buy my merch if you like me.

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Speaker 4: The way he approached it is you might like my

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Speaker 4: merch even if you don't fuck with me, but you're

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Speaker 4: gonna get this album, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 4: like so like the merch that he did, like he

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Speaker 4: teamed up with with virgil you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: and shit like that, Like he had like a T

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Speaker 4: shirt that with Virgion. That was I mean a lot

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Speaker 4: of his merch. Even if I didn't like him, I

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Speaker 4: super hype to the point bit of hype, to the

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Speaker 4: point where it was almost viral. Like people were talking

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Speaker 4: about his merch just as much as his album in

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Speaker 4: my office, you know what I mean. So like he

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Speaker 4: approached it differently, Like he wasn't like, hey buy this

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Speaker 4: because you fuck with me. It was more like this,

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Speaker 4: this is really good merch and this is really a

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Speaker 4: really good album. Like he approached them both as you know,

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Speaker 4: separate projects, you know, and put just as much energy

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Speaker 4: on both sides, you know what I mean. So even

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Speaker 4: if you didn't fuck with Travis dummy, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, because he doesn't have the same following that

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Speaker 4: she has, you know what I mean. You the merch

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Speaker 4: when the people still fuck with the merch if you

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Speaker 4: were like, you know, if you were cool at all

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Speaker 4: you I mean even me. I'm a regular ast nigga.

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Speaker 4: I fuck with that merch dumb like that shit was

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Speaker 4: fire as fuck? Bro, So what is she mad about?

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Speaker 4: What is she mad?

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Speaker 1: Just like Nicki Minaj, who gives a fuck?

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Speaker 3: Dude? Like I just like, people don't even buy albums anymore.

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Speaker 1: I think this.

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Speaker 3: According to CelebrityNetWorth dot Com, you're worth seventy five million

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Speaker 3: fucking American dollars?

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Speaker 9: What is?

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Speaker 1: What is? What is? What is travework? I mean, what's

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Speaker 1: the worth? What second?

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Speaker 2: Hold up? Hold up, I'm all over it. I'm all

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Speaker 2: over Celebrity network. Okay. According to wealth why is it? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna call it that wealthy gorilla dot com,

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Speaker 3: Travis Scott is worth eight million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Bro, Let the nigga. Let the nigga have it. Bro,

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Speaker 4: Eight mil, But damn, I mean I wouldn't be mad

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Speaker 4: that when you think of rappers and how they.

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Speaker 7: Talk like like, dude, like Travis Scott only did like

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Speaker 7: eighty thousand first week when his last two hours like

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Speaker 7: he's doing pretty good for himself.

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Speaker 1: Considered that what.

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Speaker 2: I put it. I put it like this.

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Speaker 3: Whenever we're covering a sports game, like especially in the playoffs, man,

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Speaker 3: like a team sports game, I saund like mid fucking

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Speaker 1: Game that the second time this week.

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Speaker 4: Bro, you know you had me on the text you say, hey, hey.

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Speaker 3: Bro, Bro, that tells you I'm not gonna know sleep anyway.

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Speaker 1: But we always tell kids when they're hurt, Like.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes someone else is in your documentary, and sometimes you're

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Speaker 3: in someone else's documentary. Like it just is a fucking

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Speaker 3: coin flip. Like sometimes you're on top of the world,

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Speaker 3: you got the number one album, sometimes it's someone else.

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Speaker 3: If you're in the conversation. I just don't I don't know, man,

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Speaker 3: It's not my personality. I don't understand. She didn't just

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Speaker 3: care about it, but she like call him on whole nigga,

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Speaker 3: like she flipped.

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Speaker 2: The funk out.

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Speaker 3: She's on there like yelling, she's yelling at its Spotify.

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Speaker 4: I mean like she but then she like'm does trying

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Speaker 4: to say anything about the situation at all, Like you

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Speaker 4: see said a fucking thing about it. Shit nothing, He's

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Speaker 4: like okay, Like, but he's a whole ass nigga on

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Speaker 4: your on your show.

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Speaker 7: Like does he sew some fucking sweatshirts and socks more

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Speaker 7: than you?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no no, because he bundled them.

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Speaker 1: She bundled them too, of course.

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Speaker 2: No, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like she's mad at capitalism, like she hates a Bogo offer.

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Speaker 2: She's out here fucking going at that, like a fifteen

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Speaker 4: She's mad at him for doing what she wanted to

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Speaker 4: do better than her and her team.

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Speaker 1: Nigga, don't yell at your team. Nigga who yelled the

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Speaker 1: motherfuckers to put that weak as shit out. They don't

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Speaker 1: like give a fuck a boat, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, then you got you got a huge following, way

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Speaker 4: bigger than than Travis.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, what are you tripping

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Speaker 4: But what's really odd is that when you told me

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Speaker 4: eight million, I didn't think that was a lot of

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Speaker 1: My view of what a lot of money is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to me, that's a lot of money. But to hear

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Speaker 1: a rapper worth eight million, I'm like, hey.

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Speaker 3: Well you've been living in California too, So you're like,

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: A regular ass house that might be worth twenty k

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Speaker 4: in fucking in fucking Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know, like it's worth a million. You're out

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Speaker 3: Bro, I'm not gonna pocket watch myself on this fucking podcast,

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Speaker 3: but we could talk off wine about buying a house

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit, I'm I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, I was like I was talking to my homie.

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Speaker 4: I was like, dude, I don't want to throw because

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Speaker 4: I don't want to My rent is more than twice

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Speaker 4: as much I paid in Saint Louis. Like, she's like

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Speaker 4: two and a half times that, and I get less space,

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Speaker 1: So it took it.

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Speaker 2: Took my way.

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Speaker 3: It took Sear and I thirteen years to save up

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Speaker 4: Years ago, and I was like, y'all, I want like

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Speaker 1: I was like, were like, good luck.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I I mean, because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: What I mean? But whatever, whatever, whatever. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: eight mil, Like, if he's living out here, that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. There's a lot, a lot, a lot

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Speaker 7: But anyway, I'm not gonna say that's not a lot

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Speaker 7: of that's a lot of fucking money in Houston, though,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know he's from his ALM. I'm pretty

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Speaker 7: Houston's a special place, bro. It's motherfuckers love Texas, bro.

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Speaker 7: Niggas do not leave Texas at they're point and raised there,

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Speaker 7: usually not permanently at least.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm interested in scene where he lives.

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Speaker 1: I question whether it's Houston.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, let's jump into sin Arthur Man because everything

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Speaker 4: else in internet.

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Speaker 1: I I am just extremely amazed by this book. I

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Speaker 1: love the funk out the ship like.

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Speaker 10: Stand pat.

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Speaker 8: Steps dreda.

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Speaker 10: Dread lay say scarce on the same mob.

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Speaker 4: She's to say, she can say, come home.

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Speaker 1: Stand stand you sold.

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Speaker 10: Same la sultans las siss six take the foot.

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Speaker 4: Swim have.

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Speaker 3: That so ta.

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Speaker 11: Who?

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Speaker 1: She used to say that she.

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Speaker 4: Like the first chapter about Kamala, like sid hearth is

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Speaker 4: like spitting at Shramana sex appeal all over the place,

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Speaker 4: you know, sprinkling that Shramana sauce all over kamanity.

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Speaker 1: Did you trip, Kamala? Did you tripped? Like off the

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Speaker 1: game that he was like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like the conversation that they had, you know what I mean, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: He was spending that ship for a dude who who

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Speaker 7: might have been a virgin. I'm thinking that she took

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Speaker 7: he was she took it.

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Speaker 4: He had never like when when he kissed, when he

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Speaker 4: I say out there in bag that right, hey, best

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely appreciate it about the book because it's

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Speaker 3: So what I appreciated then is with with that chapter,

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Speaker 3: It's it's super well written, but it's so perfect that

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Speaker 2: It's just like he had all these ideas and then literally.

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Speaker 4: Like but he says, he says, what he is not

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Speaker 4: we cool. We can talk about anything, you know, what

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00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: I mean, like anything, but like the expectations.

443
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: Of other shit is not all the way, you know,

444
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: like you know, there's no ownership, but he's out here.

445
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: He leaves the dener with Kamala and he's throwing ones

446
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: at other women.

447
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 4: He basically having a strip club and his own then

448
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 4: you know, like sex then whatever he calls it. But yeah,

449
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: like I don't want to I don't want to live

450
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 4: like that, but I do like the fact that they

451
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: allow each other's freedom, but they do also open up

452
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 4: to each.

453
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: Other in ways you know that you would think, you know,

454
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, love, he does exist there.

455
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: It's just it's just, dude, this is this is this

456
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: is some ship written Like when was this written? Like

457
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: how the fuck you know is this? Like are people

458
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 4: even thinking in his way back then? Like I messed,

459
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 4: I guess you thought it, but like nobody existed like that,

460
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it's just it's dope

461
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 4: to me. That's really dope. But well among the child people,

462
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 4: when he starts like he gets the gig and all

463
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 4: that ship, like Kamala kind of set him up with

464
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: a job and all that ship, you know what I mean,

465
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: And he starts fucking surpassing like his the teacher and

466
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 4: the arrogance he speaks like he he uses one word

467
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 4: that's like it's like obsequisce or some ship obsequious. Yeah, yeah,

468
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: like how people want to be obedient. And I'm like, damn,

469
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 4: you're an arrogant motherfucker, you know what I mean.

470
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: You I've never even thought to think of people in

471
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: that way, you know what I mean? But it's just interesting.

472
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: So what do y'all got to say that I'm talking

473
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: a whole lot.

474
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 7: Well, it's it seems like, you know, he tried varying

475
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 7: approaches here, like you know, his first his first approach

476
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 7: was kind of you know, just just just not indulging

477
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 7: in physical pleasures or anything like. And then he just

478
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 7: went on complete on the other end and said, maybe,

479
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 7: you know, the keen Enlightenment is in a hedonism and

480
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 7: you know, chasing you know, worldly pleasures. And it seems

481
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 7: like he's he like neither one of them worked for him,

482
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 7: like two different fucking extremes. But it's it's I think

483
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 7: there was something there about how you can get lost

484
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 7: in searching for yourself, Like you know, he looked up

485
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 7: and the next thing you knew he was there for

486
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 7: like twenty years just on some shit that he thought

487
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 7: would be like a trial run, like he was legit

488
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 7: a businessman and you know, really invested in some shit

489
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 7: that he didn't give a fuck about when he's starting, yeah,

490
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 7: and gambling and shit. So yeah, you know, that's what

491
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 7: I took from it that sometimes you know some shit

492
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 7: that you're just fucking around with, you look around the

493
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 7: next thing you know, you're too deep in that shit

494
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 7: and you don't even know how the fuck you got

495
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 7: so deep in it.

496
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Speaker 3: I for sure relate to that, like, and I mean

497
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: I think everyone can kind of relate to that, you

498
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like whether you were in college

499
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: or when you were in your twenties or something like

500
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: something you were going to try, or even just like

501
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: a way of thinking or whatever. Like I know, like

502
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: I know people, I don't know if you guys have

503
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 3: friends like this. I know people who are super religious

504
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: and the way they got religious.

505
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: Was basically like that.

506
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: They were like, well, let me let me try it

507
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: out or whatever, you know what I mean, and then

508
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: a year later they're inviting you to Bible study or whatever.

509
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: You know.

510
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only I would say, the only stuff I

511
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: didn't really like of these three chapters was it's hard

512
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: for me, Like Tyler talked last week about always sort

513
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: of thinking about the context of work was written in

514
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: so Hermann Hesse like, you know, he came from like

515
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: a family that you know, they were colonialists, they were

516
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: well off and stuff. The only thing for me is

517
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: like I never liked listening to rich people talk to

518
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: me about the value of material things or whatever. And

519
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: for sure, like the part of the like of the

520
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: child people, I for sure had a little bit of

521
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: that that was just like based on some of the

522
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: things my family went through. There's some parts where like

523
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: I kind of came out of the book and I'm

524
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 3: sort of looking at my imaginary version of Hermit Hesse

525
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: being like, oh, easy for you to fucking say.

526
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

527
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

528
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: Just about like, oh, look at these people who want

529
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: to be able to feed their families and you.

530
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 2: Know, house themselves.

531
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: And whatever.

532
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: Like like the arrogance definitely seemed like over and above

533
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 3: for me in a couple places. And then the other

534
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: thing is just again thinking of this as being a

535
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 3: book from the nineteen twenties, there's aspects of his relationship

536
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: with Kamala. Yeah, and then especially leaving when she's pregnant.

537
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: That's like very much that era's view of women as

538
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: a way for men to prove things or work shit out.

539
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: That is like obviously not necessarily the fairest way of

540
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: seeing the world from women's perspective.

541
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about that.

542
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: A little bit too, especially at the end where it's

543
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: like and then he got her pregnant and bounced.

544
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: You know.

545
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 7: What a piece He didn't know he got pregnant though

546
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 7: he didn't know he got Definitely, he definitely cat blocked

547
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 7: on his homi. Though let's not overlook that.

548
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: We're talking very sure.

549
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 7: She was like, what's his name, Gatava? It's his main

550
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 7: when she yeah, when she expressed interest in meeting him,

551
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 7: She's like, you don't need to meet that guy.

552
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I want to meet him one day.

553
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: This like, this part tripped me out about him, and like,

554
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 4: and women you wereferring to Michael, Michael.

555
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: Tell me all about it.

556
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I have a book, you bo. Man. I became a

557
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: different nigga. Bro. I was like, who the fucking Mike nigga?

558
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

559
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: Anyway to later anyway, it may well be so so

560
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 4: hard to said weirdly, I am like you you do

561
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: not You do not love either? How could you practice

562
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: love as an art otherwise?

563
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So like it kind of

564
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: tripped me out, like he was saying, like, you don't love?

565
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: How could you? How could you be a whole.

566
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 4: Be out here?

567
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: Ho?

568
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: And if you don't, if you actually love, and that's

569
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: like that was I thought that was super fucked up

570
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: in him to say that.

571
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Dude, like y'all sharing all this ship. She just said

572
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: to him.

573
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: Before this, you are the best lover, she said, pensively

574
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: I have I've ever had. You are stronger than others,

575
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 4: more flexible, more willing. You have learned my art wells

576
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 4: at heart. And some day when I'm older, I want

577
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: to have your child. And nonetheless, my love you have

578
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: remained a stromana. Nonetheless, you do not love me. You

579
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: love no human being? Is that?

580
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: Is this not so?

581
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: And then he says that he was like, you know,

582
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: he's like, he's like, no love these holes And I

583
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 4: definitely don't love you, nig I mean y'all.

584
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: And he said that she understands him in a way

585
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: that nobody understands him.

586
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 9: He's, you know, opening up to opening up to each

587
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 9: other like they like obviously if this was being spoked

588
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 9: like spoken about like they have like you know, fucking

589
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 9: you know, like they little talking my nigga, you feel

590
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 9: me right if to get that issue.

591
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Off, you know what I mean? Like so like dude,

592
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: y'all when y'all okay, this just this is this thing

593
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: about sex with nigga. You ass naked with a motherfucker.

594
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Br you ask.

595
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: Naked, Your whole body is open, you've had sex with them.

596
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: When you're having sex, I mean, you're extremely like you know,

597
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: like opening ways that aren't just physical, you know what

598
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 4: I mean. You open up your way, your your your

599
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: whole self to this being right, you're talking afterwards, and

600
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: then you say some shit like this, you know what

601
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: I mean, after she says what she says, that's some

602
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: weird shit, like he he kind of a weirdo to

603
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: a degree when it comes to that shit like and

604
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's you know, the I don't

605
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: know if that's Sidhartha or just the writer, you know

606
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: what I mean?

607
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: Does that make any sense?

608
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: No?

609
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: But that's why I think this it's such a fascinating

610
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: book because there's even a third layer of it for me, Like,

611
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: there's the writer in the nineteen twenties from the position

612
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: that he was in, which I think would like we

613
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: would all find like not like you would not want

614
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: to hear that, like a member of the German aristocracy

615
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: or something was writing books like this about poor Indian

616
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: people in twenty eighteen. And then there's and then there's

617
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: the character in the world. But then there's also the

618
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: way that this book came to America in the sixties

619
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: as popularized, like with all of the beat writers and

620
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: the Baby Boomer generation everything. That's the third layer of it.

621
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: To me, that's like so perfect for these little parts

622
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: where I feel like he's too arrogant because like the

623
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: baby Boomers, I mean, these are people who have like

624
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: wrecked our economy essentially with their own sort of like

625
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: self the highest divorce rating in the history of the country,

626
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: like all this other shit, right, people who have arguably

627
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: done harm to kind of the fabric of society because

628
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: of their own quest for well, I want to feel

629
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: fulfilled or whatever, you know.

630
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: What I mean.

631
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, and I think that's an interesting thing to

632
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: think about with the book. And I actually think hermant

633
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: has does like a really good job of keeping it ambiguous.

634
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: There's so much stuff to lie about, said Artha, and

635
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: like what and what he is looking for, But there

636
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: is also this undercurrent if you think of it from

637
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: Govindra's perspective or Kammalist perspective, where you're like, there is

638
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: a selfishness in caring about yourself first. And that's not

639
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: to say that it's not the right way to live,

640
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: but there does have to be a balance, and he

641
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: doesn't always strike that balance of like being kind to

642
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: the people around him as opposed to just being like, oh, yeah,

643
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: we don't love each other, right, I've just been living

644
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: with you and I've just been having sex with you

645
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: for years and years.

646
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Ye right right at twenty years in you know what

647
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean.

648
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: You spoke about like seeing like her eyes, you know,

649
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: and like the like the wrinkles in her face, and

650
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: like seeing how she was aging. They'd aged together, they

651
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: did that together. Like he was talking about the grays

652
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: and his beard.

653
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: You know, he's got the Tiger Woods complex, Like he

654
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: wanted to make the porn star fall in love with

655
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: him a little bit, right, Like that's that's part of

656
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: It's not just a woman, it's like a woman who

657
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: this is what she does, is she has sex with men,

658
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: and it's like he's sort of proving that, like he

659
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: can pull even a woman who wouldn't feel, who he

660
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't think would feel emotionally, to feel emotionally about him.

661
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I felt like.

662
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: But that is twenty years, my niggad you still twenty

663
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: years and that's still what it is, you know what

664
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean?

665
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: Like, damn long con for sure?

666
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: Right go, you know right?

667
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: That is the second time today I've heard long con.

668
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: I love long con.

669
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: This is second time today.

670
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: I might have never I've heard it, but maybe I've

671
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: heard it before, but I knew what it meant when

672
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: it was said, so that makes me assume I heard

673
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: it before, but this second time to day, which is interesting.

674
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, fuck on that.

675
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: Anytime I throw my wife the keys to our car

676
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: or something, she'll catch the keys and go long con

677
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: like she like like I spent fifteen years tricking you

678
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: into thinking it was something, and now I'm about to

679
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: take your car.

680
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: And but yeah, that's that's I get what you're saying about,

681
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 4: Like you know his arrogances like that in your selfish

682
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: is I can kind of relate to that.

683
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm very selfish.

684
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you about that, like like and

685
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: I've had to we talked about this before, like I've

686
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: had to like physically, like even when it comes to

687
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: like picking up the phone and shit like that, I

688
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 4: felt like, Yo, my time is my fucking time.

689
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't owe nobody shit, you know what I mean,

690
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Like seriously, you know what I mean.

691
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: But like I've even people what I love, I have

692
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: to I'll pick the phone up and make myself do

693
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: it now where like my mom used to call me

694
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: and the phone be ringing, I'm in college. I'm sitting

695
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: in my fucking room doing nothing, literally, no TV on,

696
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: no nothing. Maybe I have a music playing. I'm seeing

697
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: my mom calling. I don't pick the phone up because

698
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: I just don't want to talk, you know what I mean.

699
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: But it's not about me, you know what I mean.

700
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: Like sometimes you can pick the phone and be like, Yo,

701
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: I don't have it in me to talk to you.

702
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: But I can see I can see how you would

703
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: feel that way about yourself.

704
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: But I also know in hearing the way you talk

705
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: about the people you're close to, like your family and

706
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: your close friends. I can't imagine any of those people

707
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: when you're talking to them, opening themselves up the way

708
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: some people open themselves up to Sindhartha and him caring

709
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: so much about his own head that in that moment

710
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: he would he essentially just emotionally turns around and walks away,

711
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like that's the thing where

712
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: like I can't imagine someone really like someone that you're

713
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: close with opening up to you and you being like, well,

714
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: you gotta do what you gotta do, yeah, attacked, no, no, no,

715
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: right right right, So that like that's the that's the

716
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: stuff from him. It's not about prioritizing finding your own self.

717
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: It's more just about the like interactions and the treatment

718
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: of people along doing that.

719
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Like I'm not a dick,

720
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 12: You're not right, Like I'm selfish. Well, when it comes

721
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 12: to me, I want to do things my way. I

722
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 12: like to take just the way I want to exist,

723
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 12: you know what I mean. And that's that's really not

724
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 12: up for compromise for the most part, you know what

725
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 12: I mean. But I'm not going to treat anybody in

726
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 12: a bad way while doing that as well, you know

727
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 12: what I mean, like I don't know.

728
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: If he's necessarily treating anybody. I mean, he up and

729
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: the fact that he up and left Kamala that bugs me.

730
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: Like, you know, it's just like like I said, like

731
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: I was really you know, I was really involved in

732
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 4: their relationship, you know what I mean.

733
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, uh.

734
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: Uh Eastern Raye just dropping Lawrence. I was never team Lawrence.

735
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: I didn't give a fuck about you know, Lawrence.

736
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: You know.

737
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: I mean as far as like I was teams you know,

738
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: I understood. I think they're both, you know, not good

739
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: at things when it comes to being human. But I

740
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 4: was more team so I got her more. I mean,

741
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: Lawrence was trashed, but at the same time, like just

742
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: kick him off the show. That's what she wouldna do,

743
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I felt like she got

744
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: kicked off the show, you know what I mean, Like

745
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: her time is coming on. I mean, I don't know

746
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: what's happened, happens towards the end.

747
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: Hopefully she's she reappears or something.

748
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: I know.

749
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: And uh, what's that book?

750
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 11: Uh?

751
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: The book that Will Smith made everybody read like he

752
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: did this viral video and like his favorite book is

753
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: and it's everybody's.

754
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Hoping the Alchemist and the Alchemist.

755
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: You know, I guess I shouldn't say what happens in

756
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: the Alchemist we because we might use that for the book.

757
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 4: But anyway, so I won't say what happened. But anyway,

758
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: but maybe she comes back. Maybe maybe she comes back.

759
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 13: Maybe he runs back into it hopefully, but damn, you

760
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 13: just up and leave it, bro like that, and that

761
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 13: that dream he had about being at the the nipple,

762
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 13: like the sucking from the tit of of of a woman,

763
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 13: like the milk came out like she was lactating.

764
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: That's what what the fuck did that mean? I think

765
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: I think I like wrote that part down.

766
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 4: Maybe y'all could explain that ship because I was like,

767
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what my g talking about.

768
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: It's interesting, there's new coming out of a titty in

769
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: a dream. But uh but yeah, that that that part

770
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: did you you know what I'm talking about.

771
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: You're talking about where he had the dream that he

772
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: was hugging Gavinda and then turned into a woman and

773
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: then Govinda turned into a tit. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

774
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: what do you think of that passage? That ship?

775
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 7: It was weird as fuck, like and and that and

776
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 7: like bro, like like you sucking your homeboys titties and

777
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 7: dreams and you can't even let them fuck after after

778
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 7: she expressed it. But yeah, I don't know, maybe that's

779
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 7: some ship like like you know, it kind of like

780
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 7: like his his his relationship with with Commanded, it's it's

781
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 7: it's it's about as as substantial as as it's closed

782
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 7: off god can be. If it seems like it seems

783
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 7: like he really values their friendship. I guess the milk

784
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 7: coming out of the titty.

785
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Kind of values. He's a man, yea, I guess that.

786
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 7: I guess that substantializes like like the sexual act, like

787
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 7: because that's kind of nourishment or something. Maybe there's something

788
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: there with that. But I don't fucking know, man, it

789
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 7: was fucking.

790
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: Crazy's friendship nursed him.

791
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, man.

792
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: I think there's some smothered feelings there between Sidhartha and Govinda.

793
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: Bro that, dude, I don't that may be true.

794
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 7: That may be true.

795
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: That may be true, and who and who are me

796
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: to judge? Who are me to judge?

797
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

798
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: If that's what you got for the man, that's what

799
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: you got, man, Embrace that. You know what I'm saying,

800
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, like that, that was interesting. Have y'all ever

801
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: oh lord, real weird y'all. Ever been in a dream.

802
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: And then fucking somebody you thought was one person you

803
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: look up into another person and so you have to

804
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: stop sucking that person because that person does not have

805
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: the parts that you thought that person had.

806
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 7: And nah, I've never had had that switch up.

807
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: I have had dreams. I asked my friends. I'm not

808
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: the only one, but I have to put this out there.

809
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: But I'll be like, Yo, this wasn't that, and then

810
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: I'll be like, Yo, I'm not gonna speak anymore on this.

811
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.

812
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: So we talked on the pot about my dad being gay, right,

813
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: So I found that out when I was He came

814
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: out when I was like twelve.

815
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: So obviously when you're twelve year like, things are complicated

816
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: enough for you right at that moment in time.

817
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: So when I was that age, I had like what

818
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: I would call like stress dreams about being gay.

819
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: But it was not I'm having sex with a woman

820
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: and then it turned into a man. It was just

821
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: like very much like oh is this wait, is this

822
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: what's happening?

823
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: Is this?

824
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

825
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: But it was more like that.

826
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: It was more of like an anxious thing. It wasn't

827
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: like a nightmare. But I just wake up and just

828
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: be twelve years old, like what the fuck?

829
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: Man?

830
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: You know it happened.

831
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: These dreams happened during that time period, like I was

832
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: that age they were, and I was confused, did.

833
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: Your boy ever turn into a lactating boob or what?

834
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: Never? That never that.

835
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 4: I never had sex with a home Okay, I didn't

836
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: know these people. So I'd be having sex with a

837
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: woman and that woman would have pas all of a sudden,

838
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: is that Goda? That'd be like, Yo, this isn't what

839
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 4: I signed up for, and I'd be like, what the fun?

840
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: And then that I would usually wake up.

841
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: But yes, I've had so I can relate to an

842
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: agree with Sidharth on this level.

843
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: I didn't suck my homies tits though, all right, once

844
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: the tits left, I left too. All right, let's we'll

845
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: be certain about that. I'm certain about that. But yeah, yeah,

846
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: but anyway, but yeah, that was a that was a

847
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: super weird part. I don't know exactly what that meant,

848
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: but I do feel like.

849
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: There's something I just say one other thing about sort

850
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 3: of like the way he interacts with with the real world,

851
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: Like you talk, you talked about it like hurt you.

852
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: The way he left Kamala.

853
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 3: It kind of hurt me the way he left the

854
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: village a little bit too, Like the whole thing about him,

855
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: Like they're talking about he's gambling and he's like almost

856
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 3: trying to lose money to prove that he doesn't care

857
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: about money and all this other shit, you know, like

858
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: a part of me when he just like left and

859
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: sort of just like let the whole empire that he

860
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: built collapse or whatever.

861
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: It's sort of the same stuff I was.

862
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: Talking about before, where I'm like, if you don't care

863
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: about money, you don't want to like build a school

864
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: with it or give it to someone, like you just

865
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: care so little about the life and the people around

866
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: you that like he really does look down on.

867
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: Him, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, And he's like, oh, well,

868
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: you know, they're just worried about this stuff.

869
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: And again, like for me, I mean, I remember going

870
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: through times where our family was like really struggling, and

871
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: so whenever I read stuff like that, it's it always

872
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 3: sort of like I wouldn't say it bugs me, but

873
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: it definitely moves me in maybe a different way than

874
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: it was intended. And it's like, in terms of judging

875
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: him as a person, it's a little bit like, well,

876
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: why don't you give that stuff away to people who

877
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: need it rather than just hating it, you know what

878
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: I mean?

879
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, sure, for sure.

880
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: I think with him, I mean, like he's first of all,

881
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 4: he's dude, his I've never I don't think a person

882
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: on earth, a real person, could ever like chase something

883
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: to the point where they don't give a fuck about

884
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: nothing else, you know what I mean, Like he is

885
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: like like him, him finding out a.

886
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Finding a purpose is more important than anything.

887
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: I do kind of respect that because he's willing to

888
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: sacrifice everything. But I mean, like dog like, I just

889
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: I'll never ever, I'll never forgive him for leaving her

890
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: and not saying bye.

891
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: Like she knew And the thing is, like, dude, she

892
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: knew him enough, Like this is how why they knew

893
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: each other. She knew him enough to know this was

894
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: the last time, right, And I'm gonna be hundred this

895
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: this is the weird shit.

896
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 4: A woman that I have had sex with, I've gotten

897
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 4: pregnant before, right when she told me she was pregnant.

898
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: I knew the exact time that she got something, that

899
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: she got pregnant, the exact time, like the like the

900
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: power in the minute.

901
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: I knew the time we had sex, and then when

902
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: we did uh, it makes no sense, but it's the reality.

903
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: I was nineteen.

904
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: I knew when I knew when she it was like

905
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: it was I didn't was, I didn't try, like I

906
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: didn't know in her It was I was was pull

907
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: and prey. I didn't pray hard enough, you know what

908
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: I mean, or didn't pull out fast enough, whichever one.

909
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna guess it was the second one.

910
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: But but but it wasn't because like I didn't think

911
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: anything after we had sex. But when she said, when

912
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: she said she was pregnant, I said, this is when

913
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 4: you got pregnant.

914
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: We both we both agreed upon it.

915
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: And then when we uh, when we find found out

916
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: like the like the do date and we did the

917
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: math backwards, it was that time. It was like right

918
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 4: around that like it was like around the time that

919
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: we said that we saw thoughts she got pregnant. So like,

920
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is normal, but it kind

921
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: of makes it. I mean like I don't know, I

922
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 4: don't know if it's normal, but and I'm talking about

923
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: real life ship, not fake shit that always the book

924
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: is faith, but it just kind of trips me out,

925
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: like you know, like he she knew it was the

926
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 4: last time, and he just show you know what I mean,

927
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: Like he and he and he and he kind of

928
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: knew it was the last time too, you know what

929
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it just seemed like he did. He just

930
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: shook on her ass, you know what I mean. It's

931
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: just kind of like THEMN and she was pregnant, you

932
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like so like it's just I

933
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: don't know, man, Like that kind.

934
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: Of bothered me in that way because of my own

935
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: personal experiences, you know what I mean.

936
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, of course, well, like I said, I mean,

937
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: like clearly the way the book is written.

938
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 3: I mean, because there are some books where I try

939
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: and read it and I try and not put myself

940
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: in it, but like, clearly the way this book is

941
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: written with like it's so symbolic of like Gavinja is

942
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: clearly meant to represent like friends, not just like oh

943
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: here's this one character who's fully formed. I think it's

944
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 3: like it kind of invites you to put your own

945
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: stuff into it, more than more than most books would.

946
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: I was maybe that's why I enjoy so much, you

947
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like what I'm reading shit like

948
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: there was there was like one point when he said

949
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: when he was crossing the ferryman helped him cross the

950
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 4: river and he said, you know, repay me with your friendship.

951
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, good, that moved the funk out of me,

952
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I was just thinking like

953
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: how how how much I value my friends and how

954
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: important they are to me.

955
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: You know what i mean.

956
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: I'm thinking like that is that is that is a

957
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 4: wonderful way to exist, you know, Like he was likeya,

958
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: I knew you couldn't pay me. I judged by your wares,

959
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Just pay me with your friendship.

960
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: I'll see you again, you know what I mean? How

961
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: like they have to have the view he had, like

962
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: you know, everything comes back and how you like, you know,

963
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: kind of like comparedit to the river and ship.

964
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: It's like, damn, man, I love all of this shit. Nigga.

965
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of you know, I was. I wanted to

966
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: read on and I'm like, no, let me. You know

967
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, let me not get ahead of myself.

968
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: Oh, you're a better man than me. Bro I already

969
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: finished it. I think.

970
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: I think the thing is, if I would finish it,

971
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: I wouldn't remember each chapter.

972
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: I like, I kind of like, really I sort of

973
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: like relook over it. But I just like the way

974
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: I am.

975
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like fidgety if I have like a

976
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: book or a TV show that I'm I'm like halfway through. Yea,

977
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: So I felt like I kind of had to finish it,

978
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: and then I'm trying to like refresh each section to

979
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: make sure I know what we're talking about and everything.

980
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm going full geek and I'm reading like three books.

981
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: Right now, so like this is the book club book,

982
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: and then I have about two other books that I'm

983
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: fucking with, you know, outside of But yeah, I'm so

984
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: like that that.

985
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: I guess that helps me not you know what I mean,

986
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: read you know, like further.

987
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah whatever, but yeah, man, Like the I

988
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: think that the last chapter they're talking about is I

989
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: think some saraw and I looked it up and said,

990
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: the cycle.

991
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Of death and rebirth to which life in the material

992
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: world is bound.

993
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: I thought that was really interesting because like the cycle

994
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: he's going through, like you know, like trying to find

995
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: self and like you know, like you said, he's going

996
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: like you.

997
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: See super left field and he's super right now he's

998
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: trying to find balance. And I feel like you almost

999
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: have to.

1000
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: Okay, when we when you when you are when you

1001
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: first joint something to say, like when I when you

1002
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: you see people that are just becoming religious or just

1003
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: joining his church, right, they go on fire for christis

1004
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: like the term right, and they're doing dummy hard with it,

1005
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: and then they start kind of easing and balancing out,

1006
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: finding the balance for themselves, you know what I mean.

1007
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: And I think that's how life is like anything, Like

1008
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: you know, when I first find some dummy dummy hard

1009
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: for it and I'm like, yo, you know, I kind

1010
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: of like find my balance and figure it out, you know.

1011
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: What I mean. But I think that's life.

1012
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: You know, when you when you're trying to find self

1013
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 4: and you're trying to you're trying different things out, and

1014
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: your experience different things, you go hella into it, you

1015
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean, And like you kind of you

1016
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: kind of have to lose yourself a little to find yourself,

1017
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean like you got like you

1018
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 4: kind of got to get away from the ship that

1019
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: you fuck with trying something to realize. Yo, I really

1020
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: miss that, you know what I mean, and like and

1021
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: that and that, and that kind of pulls you back

1022
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: to like like center, you know what I mean.

1023
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: So I know I've done that a number of times

1024
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: in my life.

1025
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: Like so yeah, yeah, but I think that's really interesting

1026
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: about like the the sum sorry, after the last chapter

1027
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: with that that we read, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1028
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: any other words, guys, any other words, Michael. I really,

1029
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 4: you know, I probably will never forgive myself for that.

1030
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: I had the book in my hand and I just

1031
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: like had it by my I don't know what the

1032
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: fuck it just made me feel. I just want to say, Michael,

1033
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: I was reading a chapter like Michael, Yeah, I'll be friend.

1034
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: A lot of words.

1035
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I'm sorry, all right, man, Fuck the internet.

1036
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: This is the wackiest stretch of internet I've experienced.

1037
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: In a long time, you know what I mean.

1038
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I'm glad we have the book club

1039
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: because you might have nothing else to talk about it

1040
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: if we weren't talking about books.

1041
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not talking about football.

1042
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: So we're reading chapters eight, nine and ten for next

1043
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: week that's by the River through the chapter called the Sun.

1044
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: Spoiler alert, Does your wife want to drop some shit off? Like, yo,

1045
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: y'all kind of fucking up? Maybe she should clean some

1046
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 4: shit up for us.

1047
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: I was just like, I was about to say some

1048
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: shit when you were talking about some saraw and then

1049
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm getting this second

1050
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: hand off her and probably gonna sound like an asshole,

1051
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: And it would probably make more sense for me to just.

1052
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: Ask her to say something for the next show.

1053
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: Maybe she should, because he actually.

1054
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: Because she not only teaches the book, but she also

1055
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: kind of like majored in Eastern religions and college at

1056
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: u c l A.

1057
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: So she like she knows the religious context of it

1058
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: way better than I do too, So.

1059
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: She's smarter than us, that's what you're saying.

1060
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: Well, she's much smarter than me and too.

1061
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, maybe she could explain that that Govinda

1062
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: and ship and maybe she can explain and explain my

1063
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: dreams why titties are leaving me in my dreams in

1064
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 4: middle school.

1065
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: Okay, I need help with that as well.

1066
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: All right, you might need help from someone else on

1067
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: that one.

1068
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: But about that? All right, man, I all all right,

1069
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: I go.

1070
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 11: Your scar show you son, don't love, don'tly God make you.

1071
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Dudes.

1072
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 11: Try to think the time delay delay the store in

1073
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 11: delay away we go away anytime my said, can hold

1074
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 11: you delegating my baby?

1075
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Wold you delegating my walk?

1076
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 11: Well agatting when we roll in there again when we

1077
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 11: go out, No you ro we swim up pay now you.

1078
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: Store se So.

1079
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: Let's see.

1080
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: Your sco show you sir.

1081
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 11: You don't love, don't read, win, lose time, My.

1082
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: Care around youa oh.

1083
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: Honey dumb load. I'll be fun. I'm shure she loved

1084
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: me up. She got me down and sedate it. I'm related.

1085
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: I know it's to be overheted, be better off, I

1086
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: be weeded. We better off when we feeded. She liked

1087
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: to stay. We're related. Her body is a triple is skated.

1088
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: I better run up on equipment needed medicine.

1089
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 5: I need a freek goud and a second mama, see

1090
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 5: you look good in those indeed us start a paparazzi,

1091
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: please start, and we need to package this apple arm

1092
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 5: like anita.

1093
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 10: Money needs to if you need to, she.

1094
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: Whisper, probably like a secret. Oh, these wack jokers always

1095
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: lying well because the boss farm. That's my clientele. Man,

1096
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: I got a secret, I would never tell last one.

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00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 5: It did, so I'm dying in jail, but I'm bout

1098
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Speaker 5: a fool living. Hello, Well, GUYSA coming in a wallow

1099
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Speaker 5: were then I'm on the way finding Delaware.

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Speaker 1: Men.

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Speaker 5: You always wonder you should try and film ms Fish

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Speaker 5: music