WEBVTT - Breaking News: Divorce is Trending 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.360 Hey, the folks, welcome to I Do Part two. If 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.599 you got love right the first time around, this ain't 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.320 the show for you. On TJ Holmes alongside my friend, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:30.400 my partner, my podcast co host Amy Roboch. That was 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:31.720 also impersonal. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:33.400 Let me, I'm very clinical. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.720 It did with my person, my partner, my spouse, my 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:38.640 what's the right. 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:39.680 Way to love of my life? 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.800 Love my life? There it is that you had to 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.559 feed me that line is a little disturbed. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.919 I think you probably avoided saying it because it's overused 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.160 all the time on all the reality shows we watch, 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.120 and you roll your eyes when people call each other 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.160 the love of their lives. Then we look up and 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.640 two months later they're so I think you probably tried 0:00:58.680 --> 0:00:59.200 not to use that. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.000 Yeah. And so we have had a chance to come 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.680 hop onto I Do Part two in a little bit, 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.520 and there's always relationship news. So we're going to discuss 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.040 some relationship news, some very high profile relationship news, and 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:10.640 we're going to get into a couple of questions, one 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.120 of them having to be what do you do post divorce? 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.720 Is it important for you to rebrand yourself? We're also 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.280 going to get into this question, is it good to 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.600 throw a divorce party, a divorce celebration, or is that 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.360 in bad taste. There's a lot of celebrities who are 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.680 going through this right now. The first Dree Kimsley. Let's 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.880 start with her. A lot of people know and I 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.360 would say love, but she has some issues right now 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.400 with irregilable differences. Of course, she's from the Beverly Hills housewife. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.960 She's divorcing her husband PK is his name after A PK. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.240 Kimsley after ten years of marriage. Now Robes. We hear 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.440 about a divorce, we hear about a breakup, but so 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.600 much of the conversation around this one has to do 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.800 with the fact that they actually made it to ten 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.600 years of marriage. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.040 And the reason why that's significant. It varies from state 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.520 to state, but anyone who's been divorce knows sometimes folks 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:06.640 will be strategic and plan their divorces for when they 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.960 might have the most to gain and maybe the. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:10.720 Least to lose. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.440 You could look at it two different ways, and who 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:13.799 knows that this is the case. But a lot of 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:18.160 people are wondering if Deret waited for those ten years, 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.799 because in the state of California, that means you've been 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.560 in a what is it called a long. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.040 Term marriage New Jersey? I know has that here? 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.040 Again different from state to state, but once you get 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.640 branded as a long term marriage, you are entitled to 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:32.280 fifty percent. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:33.760 And so who. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.320 Knows what the state of their finances actually is and 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:37.919 whether or not that's even true. But a lot of 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.000 people are saying, hmmm, I wonder if she was waiting 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.160 specifically so that she could get fifty percent. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:47.760 I'm sure it just happened to work out that way. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.200 Surely she might even be like, hell, yeah, I did 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:50.440 you know? 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:51.040 Who knows? 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.760 I've heard I've heard women say yeah, I stuck with 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.519 it because I knew that I was. I had done 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.240 enough where I felt like this was the way that 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.040 made the most sense for me. So who knows what 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.480 it is? But another thing people are talking about is 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:11.320 that PK I think he got photographed one day before 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.960 the divorce filing kissing and holding hands with a former 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.960 Amazing Race contestant. So if you're a big reality show person, 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.880 you might know who is it, Shannel wall Is. So 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.280 he was out kissing, holding our hands. It wasn't like 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:24.000 he was hiding it. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.000 What we're saying is, we're not holding out hope for 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:26.760 a reconciliation. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.040 I don't think that's what happened. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.760 They do have two kids, Jaggers eleven, Phoenix is nine, 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.480 and so PK has filed for joint custody. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:36.360 We'll see. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.160 We hope the best for them. Divorce is hard, and 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.880 it's really hard in the public eye. So we wish 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:40.600 them both the best. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.560 See when we say we wish them the best, oftentimes 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.000 that doesn't necessarily mean that the relationship continues. Sometimes what's best, 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.720 and we've learned that what's best is for them to 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.960 go their separate ways. Now, another divorce that's taking place 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.440 now is from a guy. Look, I love Steve Guttenberg 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.000 back in the day. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:55.560 Oh yeah, Three Men and a baby. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.280 But before that police Academy. Wasn't he in the one 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.840 with the what was the robot? What was the name 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.080 of it? Short Circuit? Is it short Short Circuit? You 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:06.440 remember that movie? Yes? 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.480 And I have actually seen Steve Gutenberg running in Central 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.280 Park before he was running alone. He was actually I've 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.840 only seen him one time running in New York, but 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.120 I was like, oh my god, that was Steve. Good. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:17.960 You're probably going to see him unning alone again if 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.400 you see him because he is announced now he is 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.000 also file from divorce of his wife of six years 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:25.919 now six years of a shorter time. This is his 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.480 second marriage. Been there, done that call with Steve if 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.200 you want to talk, but his wife, Emily Smith, there 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:32.560 is a significant age gap. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.120 Did we look? 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.400 Is Steve sixty six six and we believe Emily Smith 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:38.240 is thirty. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.120 Five, so somewhere around thirty years, you know, does that 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:41.720 fla into it? 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:43.320 I mean, it absolutely could have. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:48.000 They're saying irreconcilable differences again, and he's already he's already 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.920 agreed to pay sposal support to Smith. So they did 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.600 have a prenup, which I think will help expedite this 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.520 and hopefully make it a little bit less messy. Is 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.960 certainly in the public eye. It's never fun to have 0:04:58.120 --> 0:04:58.960 people wanting to know. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:04:59.400 All the details. 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.640 So if you had a pre up, hopefully that will 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.560 make things a much smoother process for both of them. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.560 And again, we don't we hate to speculate about somebody 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.800 a specific relationship, have no idea what happened and why 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.680 with these two, But anytime we've talked about this, certainly 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:19.719 recently with with several couples of relationships where there's a 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.880 big age difference, it does come into play. You could 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.080 love somebody all day long, but you have different interests, 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.800 you have different bedtimes, even you have different things you wanted. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.560 Different activity levels, all of that. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.040 And that can come into play in a relationship. So 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.520 hopefully both of those get through that and look, like 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.600 we said, Robes, we've been there, we have done that, 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.640 and we know you can come out better on the other. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:40.000 Yeah. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.400 So those were yes, one hundred percent. Those are some 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.520 recent splitting up headlines, but there are some moving on 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.880 headlines from people who have just recently announced their divorces, 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:55.240 among them Jessica Simpson. She it was right at the 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.000 beginning of the year, correct that she announced that she 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.560 and her well now ex husband Eric Johnson were splitting, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.560 and they had been together for a very long time. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.320 But I love this part of the story. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:11.320 So if anyone remembers Jessica Simpson's kind of been known 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:15.040 as despite the fact that she is a ridiculously successful 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:15.960 business woman. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.599 Oh yeah, is a billionaire. I think she's a billionaire. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.560 So I actually stopped myself, but I was like, I'm 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.400 pretty sure she's in that billionaire league where you know, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.800 she's got the clothing line and everything. She's really expanded 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.400 her empire from beyond music, even though she is making 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.839 new music. But she was kind of known as, unfortunately 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.520 for her, a dumb blonde, all because of that reality 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.920 show she did with Nick Lache. Remember when she asked 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.440 if Tuna was Chicken of the sea? 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:41.800 She was like, is it chicken? 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.720 And just because of that one perhaps maybe even silly 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.920 comment she made, I don't think she's been able to shake, 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.160 or maybe she at least feels like she hasn't been 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.080 able to shake that dumb blonde, you know, the thing 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.720 that people assigned to someone, especially if you just make 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.520 one mistake. So anyway, I love this. She is now 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.360 saying that she wants to go back to school. It's 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.360 something she's had a dream of her entire life since 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.400 her twenties, and now she wants to go back to 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:08.880 school and expand her education. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.280 I think that's great. I would hate for her motivation 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.280 to be to prove something to anybody other than herself. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.520 If she wants to do that, that's fine. I know 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.600 it can look good, and I know there's a pr 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.840 element to everything when it comes to folks who are 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.440 in the public eye. But I hope she does this 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.160 for her. Who gives a damn when anybody thinks about you. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.320 If this is what she wants to do. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:27.440 I hope she does it, and I think it is 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.720 a cool thing. I think, you know, especially if so 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.120 much of your life has been wrapped up in another person, 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.720 or at least in that relationship, when you are now 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.000 on your own, to start really investing in yourself, whether 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.520 it's to go back to school. She's actually getting on 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.760 the stage for the first time in fifteen years with 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.920 this new music she has, so she's now investing in herself, 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:55.680 and I think that's actually a part of the healing process. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:58.920 This next headline I didn't even want to do because 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:00.720 it has to do with j lovel and Ben. And 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.760 unless the headline is they're getting back together, I don't 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:03.440 really give a damn. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.920 I know, we know how you feel and where you stand. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.040 On still rooting for these two. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.160 You still hope, you know, it's even as we're seeing 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:14.160 them start to talk about their marriage, you're waiting for 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.920 them to say, you know, because you see his kids 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.480 hanging out with her kids and members of their family 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.960 hanging out together, and you could see a real relationship, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.480 in an authentic bond that formed, and even between them, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.480 it seems like they're good. So you kind of want 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.600 to know that, oh, they could get back together, but 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:31.480 that's not the headline. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.000 They can clearly get along as we see, these two 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.840 have been each other's lives publicly for decades now. But yeh, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.320 She's was just quoted recently talking about how she told 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.200 her kids. Look, these families have been intertwined for quite 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.360 some time, and she said she told her kids she 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.640 just promised them that Mama was gonna be okay. She said, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.720 I promise that I'll come out the other side stronger 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.400 and better. I promised them that, and I did it. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.160 This is her saying that she has like come out 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.920 and emerged. Look, that was a mess. For any divorce 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.840 privately sucks a divorce publicly. Really, it really sucks a 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.920 divorce publicly from somebody that you got two new movies 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.640 and your whole new album attached to. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.920 And it was a fairy tale kind of blood story 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.960 because they had been engaged twenty years prior and then 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.240 it just wasn't the right time. So now, for all 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.520 of us who believe in love and are rooting for love. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.520 You think, oh wow, it just wasn't the right time, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.239 but now it is. Now they could be together. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.480 Hope, And still the moment's just not right. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.880 But she does say she has a great sense of 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.640 peace in her life, and isn't that what we all 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:33.600 are hoping for? Well? 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.319 Does some piece come for some people? If you have 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:40.160 to a split or a divorce, do you feel better 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.720 to get rid of stuff that you had together? Anytime? 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.280 If you get divorced and you all lived in this 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.679 house together, would you be okay with one person gets 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.800 the house? Would you be okay getting the house? Or 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.760 do you want you don't want anything to do with 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.400 anything that you all had together? 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:56.280 To each his own. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.480 But I like to start a new because for me, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.720 things have memory, things have feelings. I think what you 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:06.600 surround yourself actually truly impacts how you feel. It affects energy, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.040 and it does for me. So you know, you make 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.000 those decisions on a case by case basis. Unfortunately, you 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.640 and I have had some experience in this department. 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:15.280 What do you think? 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.360 You know me fairly well, and I can separate. I 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.480 can associate pretty easily and quickly. And something is dead 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.600 to me and it's over to that point. I don't. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.280 You don't want to see something that has a memory 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.040 attached to it. It could be a pleasant one or an 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:29.960 unpleasant one. You just don't. I don't want to see 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.120 that stuff, none of it. I don't want to drink 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:32.760 the same drink. 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.600 No, seriously, I don't want to wear the same clothes. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:36.960 I actually feel that way. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.000 Think Okay, I'm with you there one hundred percent. And 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.120 I mentioned that because Jessica Alba they are selling their 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.199 La home for nineteen million dollars. It's on the market, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:45.760 so it's available if you'd like to go out and 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.560 put your bid in. But it's in La. But this 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.840 is the home she shared with Cash Warren, who she 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:51.440 also I think it was the beginning of the year, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.400 announced they would be getting a divorce as well. But 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.760 this is a home that she called their dream home 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.480 at some point and now that dream is gone. And 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.679 I bet she doesn't. No, no, I'm not going to 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:03.200 put words in. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.520 Her mouth, but yes, but what I think where you're 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:06.040 going with this? 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.720 Look, she was married, They were married for sixteen years, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.520 and she and they both both Jessica and Cash, referred 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.680 to this home as our dream home where they wanted. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.760 To watch their kids grow up. I get that. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.480 So when that dream is gone, when that dream doesn't 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.000 exist anymore, it's almost like a rub to be in 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.959 this place that you thought was going to be one 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.200 thing and now it's another. And I just think that 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.719 that is just that's a heavy It's almost like an 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.960 albatross swaying you down and keeping you in the past. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.480 It kind of keeps one foot in your past. Now. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.559 I do know a lot of folks want to keep 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.560 their homes because a they don't have a choice, like 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.400 that's where they have to live, they can't afford to move, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.440 but b because they want their kids to have some 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:47.080 stability and normalcy and just a space that they're familiar with. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.960 I know that that weighs into a lot of folks 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.240 decisions about whether or not to keep a home or not. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:52.880 But they are moving. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.480 On and eye has gone, so the house should go 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:55.240 to For. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.839 Me, that absolutely is a non starter. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:00.920 Did you know that you have had a widow? 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:02.520 You know what? 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.520 I would have put an s on that or like, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.280 I just knew that he had a lot of women 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.560 and probably some are still alive and some might have died. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:11.440 Like I don't know. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:12.600 He was married to one. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.360 That's it. He only had one. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.680 Why he's not a polygamist. I mean, yes, he was 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.680 only Okay you're talking about Oh yeah, it made clay 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:20.240 boy house. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:21.520 And I'm thinking of all the women around. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.160 He wasn't married to all of them at the same time, 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.320 of course not. But I did not know this. But 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.560 he died in twenty seventeen, and his wife, Crystal Hefner, 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.520 is now engaged after a year of dating. Good for her. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.480 Crystal is what now thirty nine? 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.320 Yes, thirty nine, thirty nine years age gap and he 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.200 was nine. He died at ninety one in twenty seventeen. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.959 Hey, when you know, you know? But what I am 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.439 saying here is that doesn't matter. A year doesn't matter. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.280 What are the rules of Uh, he's been dead for 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.480 several years. He only dated somebody for a year and 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.640 then God and gen. I don't see any issue here. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.920 The question that people are asked is do you think 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.920 an engagement after one year of dating is too soon? 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.439 What if you're a widow. I don't think that should 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.520 matter at all. I think you can still honor, especially 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.760 if you you know the person who passed was somebody 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.520 who was the love of your life or someone you 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.680 had a beautiful relationship with, I think you can still 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.160 honor them. I don't think anyone who truly loves no 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.280 other person would want the person they're leaving behind to 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.560 be alone and sad, So I don't. I don't think 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.520 there were rules behind that. I think it's personal. I 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:28.360 think it's individual. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.400 It's sad. I want you to be alone and missing 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.400 me every day the rest of your life. I don't 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.480 want you happy going out to movie horror movies with 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:35.400 some duty and popcorn. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.360 I think I could never do that, though I couldn't 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.439 watch horror movies again. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.000 Really. Oh so, y'all go see a rom com together? 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.080 Okay, I don't know how we got there or went there, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.680 but no, I want none of that. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.320 But there's no issue there, I mean, I. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.200 Think so an engagement, people get engaged within momsw long. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.720 When you're loon before you got engaged, Well was a 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:56.160 long one. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.240 First one, first one was I mean I was so young, 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:00.400 but it was a year. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.600 It was a year, no, no, no, no, before they dated 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.880 a year then got engaged, So you dated for how long? Engaged? 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.120 I dated a year and then got engaged for a year, 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.920 so for two years. Second time, this is a little. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.240 This is a little you know, you talked about this before. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:15.040 It's fine. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:19.400 I got engaged after let me see, wait, hold on, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.840 get four months. I got engaged after four months, and 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.920 I got married after ten months of meeting him. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.520 Wow, you really thought I was dragging my feet. 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.760 Then, Jesus, what's what are your timelines? 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:39.840 Longer much? Two years? I think? And uh, you know 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.120 what year? Probably a year on the first one. Okay, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:42.640 it was. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.640 A year on the first one for me, and even 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:45.440 shorter the second. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.240 The first one and the second one, Oh my god. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.480 Okay, that's the third one going to be Oh I 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.400 ki tak tic talk. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:52.760 I'm kidding. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.960 Okay, next up here, we've known some people personally who 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.720 have done this, but they have a divorce is it 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:12.560 called divorce party or a divorce a divorce party? Okay, yes, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.280 but these things they feel im poor taste to me. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.360 We're talking about HGTV star Christina Hack celebrated her divorce 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:24.880 being finalized with a party of sorts. You go out 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.600 with your friends. It's one thing like look this, Christina 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.440 Hack just did this kind of a smaller thing. Couple 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.160 of friends out toasting glasses. Supposed it is insta though. Okay, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.920 so it looks like a celebration of your marriage ending, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.920 which is fine by me if you want to do that, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.440 but some will say it's impoor taste. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.560 So look again, I'm gonna stand here saying I'm not 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.840 going to judge what anyone else chooses to do. However, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.240 if it were for me, I don't think it's a 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:52.720 bad thing. I think when people come up and say 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.520 I'm so sorry you're getting divorced, a lot of times 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.360 I would say, no, actually, it's a relief, so you 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.280 could congratulate me instead of feel sorry for me. But 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.400 it is one of those moments where I think, for me, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.280 I wouldn't want to post, like I could see myself 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.920 going out and clinking a glass, but posting it is 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.600 kind of rubbing it in the faces not only of 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.640 the ex but the exes family, and if you have 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.080 children with that person, I don't know what message that 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.520 sends as well. I think that that's the consideration I 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.080 would have, just the ex the exes family members, former 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.280 friends who might have gotten caught in the crosshairs, and 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.440 then children if they're involved. I think sometimes it can 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.920 come off as yeah, in poor taste. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:31.080 I guess it is the best way to put it 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:32.880 what it is. But to each his own. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.120 I mean, you know what, like I don't know what 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.640 someone went through. You know what did she go through 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.440 to get to a place where she finally was able 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.600 to get divorced? Or say I want a divorce? So 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.400 maybe she needs to let off some steam and to celebrate. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.000 You know What's that? We use this quote in our 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.960 morning run. I think recently, if you can't be happy 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.680 with what you have, at least be happy with what 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:53.320 you escaped. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.120 Yes, exactly, and that could exactly be I think it 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.520 is for a lot of people. Sometimes breakups, divorce are 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:01.200 exactly that. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.720 All right. The final thing here is this quote, the 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.400 pressure to be married to men is a conspiracy. Now 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.520 that quote comes from an actress. Now when you hear 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.520 that initially without context, or do you get curious or 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.399 do you react? How do you take that? 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.720 I get curious? I would I would like to ask 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:19.600 a few follow ups. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.480