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Speaker 1: fall twenty five Bring the Boom Max Boom. Uh. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Last night, great night at Lambeau. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I gotta ask Danbyer what he

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Speaker 1: thinks of the of the Icy Way Green Bay Pack.

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Speaker 1: But I I've been a broadcaster, obviously much longer than

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Speaker 1: I've been a coach. I've been in sports my entire life,

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Speaker 1: and I there's something that we haven't discussed a bunch,

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Speaker 1: but it's a real thing. I call it championship energy.

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Speaker 1: I championship energy. And I remember I've I went to

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Speaker 1: Villanova's practices usually like once a year. Jay Wright would

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Speaker 1: let me know, like once a year, sometimes when I

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Speaker 1: I went to their practice because I was calling a

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Speaker 1: I remember turning to maybe their sid at the time,

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Speaker 1: and I said, like, does this feel different from different

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Speaker 1: than other years? And he's like it does. I said

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Speaker 1: it does to me too. Now this is before they

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Speaker 1: went out and started just eviscerating people. Beat Oklahoma by

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Speaker 1: what forty four points in the semi finals, and obviously

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Speaker 1: one on incredible Chris Jenkins three point shot to beat

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. So I'm not going to tell you that

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Speaker 1: at that very moment, at that very moment, I knew

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Speaker 1: you are around teams that have just kind of that

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Speaker 1: right chemical mixture. It's no different than when you're around couples.

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Speaker 1: Right when you're around couples and they're dating and you're like,

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Speaker 1: you guys look like you've been together for twenty years?

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Speaker 1: Would't people with twenty years? Usually they don't care about

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Speaker 1: each other. I'm kidding. But the point is that you

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Speaker 1: can field championship couples, you can field championship teams. There's

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Speaker 1: just a different field to it. And maybe it's because, yes,

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I have gotten a chance to get

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Speaker 1: and I'm drinking some of the kool aid. But in

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Speaker 1: like Pordge is better than you. Here's Jordan Love talking

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Speaker 2: Ten days in to this NFL season, you're two to

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Speaker 3: How did you do it tonight?

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Speaker 4: Just team victories right there, back to back. You know,

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Speaker 4: defense been dominant, been shutting people down. In offense, we've

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Speaker 4: been doing a great job putting up points and you know,

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Speaker 4: finishing these games off. But it's a great start to

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Speaker 4: the season. We just gotta keep building on it. What

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Speaker 4: So you hold a good offense like that to eighteen

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Speaker 1: It's a good football team. I don't think anybody would

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Speaker 1: championship level roster and energy. Here's Micah Parsons. He sat

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about the process and how much time

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. First, as soon as our you know,

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Speaker 3: When the DC comes up to me, it's like, we're

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, we'll hurry up. So you know,

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Speaker 3: Then, Jeff's a hell of a play call.

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Speaker 1: Jeff is Jeff Hafley. Here's Jayden Daniels talking about the loss.

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Speaker 5: They executed their scheme, whatever it was, they executed really

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Speaker 5: We'll get back to work.

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Speaker 1: Fettering guy, mature guy. He's only a second year, but

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Speaker 1: I still like Jayden Daniels. I walk away just incredibly

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Speaker 1: We move down the line like I just you can't

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Speaker 1: does that mean they go to and win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but that felt like super Bowl energy,

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Speaker 1: much like great couples feel like they're gonna make it

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Speaker 1: long term marital energy, much like college sports team feels

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Speaker 1: like championship energy. Byer, what did you think of the

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Speaker 1: other white uniforms? That's actually I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: the whole time on text, and I decided I'm just

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Speaker 6: Okay, well I can. I can weigh in on the

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Speaker 1: But uniform, you are the official uniform connoisseur of Fox

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Speaker 6: Well, they wore these last year as well, and the

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Speaker 6: liked to have seen which was missing was a yellow

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Speaker 6: look for Green Bay, but the helmet almost just doesn't

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Speaker 6: really really good look. Kind of reminds me of when

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Speaker 6: that's really clean, that's a really good look. And I

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Speaker 6: feel that that's the same thing with these Packer uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could use a little yet you'll use a

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Speaker 1: you I know it wasn't a terribly clean game. Do

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Speaker 6: Yeah. And I think that the Micah Parsons deal did that.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of reasons why if you're

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Speaker 6: it's put this energy into this fan base that they

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Speaker 6: last night against Washington were magnificent. Of Valentine and Nixon

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Speaker 6: It was the only thing that was going for Washington.

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Speaker 6: So that has the trickle down effect. And Doug schedules wise,

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Speaker 6: they they were given some favors, but I don't think

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Speaker 6: that we can over state what beating Detroit and Washington,

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Speaker 6: the team that's kind of been your bugaboo for the

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Speaker 6: last couple of years. And to do both of those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I the the beating the Lions. Do

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Speaker 1: you have two wins, granted both were at home, but

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Speaker 1: two we talked about, you know, predictions are really hard

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Speaker 1: in this legue. But still you would say, like Lions

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Speaker 6: And this is the team by the way that again

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Speaker 1: I think that's completely fair. And he did max out Tua,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they extended Tua, and at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I think Tua is ultimately the one

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Speaker 1: who gets them all fired. Right. Is the chemistry off?

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Speaker 1: Is their talent off? Did they miss on things? They

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Speaker 1: lose the first round pick? Is it his message? Great?

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Speaker 1: But if Tua was justin Herbert, then we be fine.

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Speaker 1: That's just the reality of it, And and you know

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Speaker 1: we have to let's go on a weekly basis, we'll

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Speaker 1: see if we can pin him down. I was told

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Speaker 1: not by Tom but by others that if the moment

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Speaker 1: had come up that they could have had Tua or Herbert.

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Speaker 1: I think they would have taken Tua despite the fact

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Speaker 1: who's coming off the hip. I don't know that for

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Speaker 1: a fact, But ultimately that's what gets you because you're

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Speaker 1: so limited in what you can do offensively. Where he

447
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Speaker 1: has to get it, he has to get rid of

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Speaker 1: it quick and then you have to win quickly. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't, he's just not a guy that can

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Speaker 1: play with extended plays because he's not crazy mobile and

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Speaker 1: he's been hurt, so he's a little he can be

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Speaker 1: and then he's he's been reckless and gotten concussions. Like

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Speaker 1: where do I sign up for a guy who's had

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Speaker 1: hip surgery and multiple concussions where we thought maybe last

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Speaker 1: year he should hang up playing football, but it is crazy. Huh,

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Speaker 1: it's just not good. No, yeah, no, no. And and

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Speaker 1: then again, after you've had those concussions, how are you

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Speaker 1: gonna play? You're gonna play differently, You're gonna get rid

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Speaker 1: of that foot. If you thought I got rid of

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Speaker 1: it fast last year, wait do you see this year?

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Speaker 1: And everybody knows that, so what do they do? They

462
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Speaker 1: jam their guys they they pressure them, they get them

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Speaker 1: off their routes. They just like they used to do

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Speaker 1: with Peyton with Peyton Manning, only Peyton Manning. He can't

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Speaker 1: make plays when he's off time. But it did no good.

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Speaker 6: They traded a first rounder to move up to get

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Speaker 6: Jalen Waddle. Yeah, you know, like there's another there's another

468
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Speaker 6: move with it of a misstep in the draft. They were,

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Speaker 6: they were set up. If you rewind the tape, you

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Speaker 6: go back to us talking about.

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Speaker 1: The trade Laramie Tunseel. They were really set up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, because of the hall that got.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and I would say that the Jayleen model

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Speaker 1: thing was let's get the best weapons possible for this

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Speaker 1: dynamic offense and this dynamic coach and this dynamic quarterback. Oops. Oops.

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Speaker 1: App Stut Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So he was

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Speaker 1: speaking with media earlier this week and Dan for for

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Speaker 1: people who are new to the show, Dan Bayer is

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Speaker 1: a huge Seahawks fan, so I definitely want him to

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Speaker 1: be part of this discussion anyway, Steelers wide receiver DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf said he feels no extra juice this week as

485
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks face his team, the Steelers. Remember the Seahawks

486
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Speaker 1: draft him in twenty nineteen, traded him this offseason. Quote,

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Speaker 1: it's just another team on the schedule that just so

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Speaker 1: happens to be playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. We've got to

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Speaker 1: go out there and do everything we can to try

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Speaker 1: and win. It's just another football game. Prepare like it's

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Speaker 1: any other football game, because after this they're gonna prepare

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Speaker 1: for their next moment, the next step on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: It's just how it is. It's not different at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think that's crap, Right, that's

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Speaker 1: the that sounds like a coach and coach speak and

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Speaker 1: it's about us and not about them, and and worry

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Speaker 1: about us and one game at a time, and this

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Speaker 1: game doesn't matter anymore than like what huh? And I

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Speaker 1: understand there's a lot of turnover in Seattle, right, and

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Speaker 1: maybe a better way to articulate what it would be. Look,

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Speaker 1: that's a different gentle manager and a different coach and

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Speaker 1: a different owner than one that drafted me. That's fair, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but to say those things, is John Steinder still their GM.

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay, my mistake, but it is.

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Speaker 1: Different owner, different owner because the owner died and then

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Speaker 1: this has took over and yeah, all that stuff so

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Speaker 1: different coaching staff, wildly, different personnel, different, you know, different

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Speaker 1: just about everything. It's easier to disconnect that way, and

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Speaker 1: you might say last year he was a little disconnected anyway,

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Speaker 1: But I just I mean, this is this would have been.

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Speaker 1: This is a third really third starting quarterback in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: and he went through two GENO after Russ. So I

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Speaker 1: understand some of it. But I just don't know anybody

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Speaker 1: who's a competitor who doesn't want to kick the ass

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Speaker 1: of the team that traded him released him, even even

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Speaker 1: when it's not the team's fault. Right, you sign as

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Speaker 1: a free agent with another team, you're still mad at

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Speaker 1: your first team who drafted you, believed and you played

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Speaker 1: you for however many years? Bira, what do you think

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Speaker 1: as a Seahawks fan, how's that land on you?

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Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not shocked. I actually think that it

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Speaker 6: shows professionalism from DK Metcalf and maybe what the Steelers

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Speaker 6: are trying to prove. I also think that the surroundings

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Speaker 6: around DK Metcalf, specifically Aaron Rodgers, specifically Jalen Ramsey who

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Speaker 6: he had great showdowns with when Ramsey was with the

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Speaker 6: Rams and and DK was with the Seahawks. They're all

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Speaker 6: coming from other former teams as well, so maybe they have,

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Speaker 6: you know, in an act to grind with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 6: We saw last week with the Jets and Rogers comments

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Speaker 6: afterwards being what they were. But I'm not shocked that

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Speaker 6: he's not making a big deal out of it because

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Speaker 6: I think that's what you want to do in that scenario.

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Speaker 6: We'll see if his play shows on the field. But

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Speaker 6: this is the mix of DK Doug is. We think

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Speaker 6: that DK is maybe this hot head and he's got

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Speaker 6: the face paints with the lightning bolt and the earring.

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Speaker 6: Yet what's the play that we remember most from DK

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Speaker 6: Metcalf running down Buddha Baker on an interception and the

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Speaker 6: extreme hustle of it. And he had a mixed It

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Speaker 6: was kind of like a mixed relationship with Seattle. There

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Speaker 6: was a little love, there was some frustration because there

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Speaker 6: weren't like enormous big game catches that you remember from him.

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Speaker 6: But you loved his passion. You loved his effort and

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Speaker 6: he was a physical freak and he did make great

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Speaker 6: plays for Seattle. He's to me, Doug, it's just kind

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Speaker 6: of one of those like AJ Brown being dealt by

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Speaker 6: the Titans of the Eagles, their college teammates. It's kind

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Speaker 6: of similar. Didn't fit what the Seahawks were doing making

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Speaker 6: the change. They paid less for Sam Donald, They're invested

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Speaker 6: a little bit more on defense, and happened to be

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Speaker 6: one of those things. But I don't I think he'll

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Speaker 6: look at it as a revenge game and maybe say afterwards,

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Speaker 6: but not shocked that he said this prior.

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Speaker 1: I don't love it. I mean again, I do think

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Speaker 1: it shows a professionalism in what you say. But there's

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Speaker 1: a way in which you can say it. Stug Gottlieb Show,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's get to Mark Dominic, who's

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Speaker 1: former general manager with the Tampay Buccaneers twenty years the

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Speaker 1: Nation Football League. He joins us every week on the show.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to what we were just talking about. DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalfs like, ah, just another game. How's that land on

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Speaker 1: you when you're a general manager.

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Speaker 9: It just felt like a team that didn't have the

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Speaker 9: energy they usually have. The Communders didn't feel like they

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Speaker 9: had the moxi or the juice that we saw from

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Speaker 9: him last year. You know, they didn't really come out

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Speaker 9: really great against the Giants either, and so I think

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Speaker 9: they're I'm hoping it feels like it's just a team that's,

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Speaker 9: you know, trying to work themselves into the right shape,

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Speaker 9: into the right charisma, into the right situation. We've got

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Speaker 9: the Raiders coming up next. But they they felt flat

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Speaker 9: for two weeks, and that's not the team we're expecting

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Speaker 9: to see. And and even if you are honest with yourself, Doug,

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Speaker 9: you know, knowing coach so well, he didn't feel like

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Speaker 9: he had the normal Dan coach Quinn energy even on interviews,

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Speaker 9: and so it just felt like the team wasn't on

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Speaker 9: patas or on par for what they're usually going to be.

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Speaker 9: I have a feeling that will change, but the Raiders

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Speaker 9: next week has to feel spark.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you about about Aaron Rodgers. How

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Speaker 1: do you think he looked weak?

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Speaker 6: One?

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Speaker 9: I thought Aaron played well. I mean, I know the

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Speaker 9: numbers were great, but I thought he played well and

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Speaker 9: made the throws. I mean, the thing that really showed

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Speaker 9: to me was, And I think the best way to

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Speaker 9: say is when you see older quarterbacks, right, it's hard

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Speaker 9: not to think of sadly, you know, as great as

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Speaker 9: he was and is Peyton Manning, you can feel like

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Speaker 9: when he was still on the ball, it was like

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Speaker 9: you can get it out, come on, you can do it.

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Speaker 9: You just felt like he's like, what wasn't natural, wasn't easy.

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Speaker 9: It was like I'm going to really have to throw

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Speaker 9: my arm into this one, where with Rogers you could

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Speaker 9: still see the ball just still pops out of his hand.

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Speaker 9: I mean, so the the biggest thing to me is

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Speaker 9: the arm talents still right where it needs to be,

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Speaker 9: and that's the huge part about it, and I think

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Speaker 9: that's the most encouraging thing about it. You know, the

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Speaker 9: Jets certainly offensively played and called a great offensive game.

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Speaker 9: Surprisingly to the Steelers defense was more concerning to me

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Speaker 9: than Aaron Rodgers as an offensive player.

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Speaker 1: Uh okay, Aaron Rodgers former team. The Packers are now

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Speaker 1: two and zero. Again, I don't want to go crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not crazy Packers fan. I do. I enjoy being

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Speaker 1: a fan, but I feel like it's really early. It

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Speaker 1: was a sloppy game, but that felt like a championship

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Speaker 1: energy sort of in the building that Micah Parsons just

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Speaker 1: changes them him and then Jordan Love and you know,

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Speaker 1: year three as a starter, he's different. There's a level

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Speaker 1: of calm to him. What's your thoughts on the Packers

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Speaker 1: two games in.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it just continues to build off of what I

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Speaker 9: thought this summer. And you know, we talked about what

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Speaker 9: the impact I thought for Michael Parsons would be, and

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Speaker 9: I thought that was the piece that you know, there's

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Speaker 9: a lot about the continuity, you know, and the way

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Speaker 9: that defense is humming. I mean to hold you know,

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Speaker 9: the Commanders to fifty yards rushing. You know, that's you know,

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Speaker 9: they just are playing so well together so early. And

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Speaker 9: again it's a young football team both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 9: and it's it's energetic coordinators and and you know, coaches

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Speaker 9: across the board, and so it's a great start for

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Speaker 9: the agreement Packers. They I mean, you would walk if

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Speaker 9: we could take us a month back and say, hey, look,

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Speaker 9: the Packers are going to win both games pretty easily.

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Speaker 9: In the fourth quarter. They're not going to be sweating

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Speaker 9: the Detroit Lions or the Commanders. You'd say, wow, that's

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Speaker 9: a pretty impressive team. So I think you have every

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Speaker 9: right to be optimistic in Green Bay, saying, and you

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Speaker 9: know it's our division. Now we've got to see if

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Speaker 9: it's our conference.

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Speaker 1: Let's take the Lions first. It was only one game,

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Speaker 1: new coordinators, some new pieces. How much of it is

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Speaker 1: it's just the first game of the year. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot to be worked out. How much should there be

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Speaker 1: alarms going off considering how dynamic this team was, especially offensively.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think we'll learn a lot again with them

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Speaker 9: this week. I mean, the Packers are going to be

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Speaker 9: a formal opponent for everybody to have a feeling. But

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Speaker 9: what we'll see against the Bears, I think we'll really

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Speaker 9: kind of tell us where Detroit is. I'm not an

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Speaker 9: alarmist on this one. I still think they're going to

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Speaker 9: find their rhythm and still be that team that's going

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Speaker 9: to make the postseason, and they're gonna have every reason,

646
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Speaker 9: you know, when they play the Packers again, and maybe

647
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Speaker 9: they're playing three times this year. But I'm not scared

648
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Speaker 9: of where they are. I know that the coordinator thing

649
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 9: is real, and Aaron Glens impacked and the Jets was encouraging, right,

650
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Speaker 9: But I think what you'll see this week, I think

651
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 9: will be a little bit more of a tall tale

652
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Speaker 9: sign of what they're going to be all season long.

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Speaker 9: And we'll see how they play against the Bears. But

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Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not an alarmist on that one.

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Speaker 1: Stuck Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Dominic

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Speaker 1: is our guest, what happened to the Texans two years ago?

657
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Speaker 1: Kind of took the league by storm, really competitive, getting

658
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, competitive in the playoffs, lose to the Rams,

659
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Speaker 1: disappointing year. What what happened?

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Speaker 9: You know? I think that they really struggled trying to

661
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Speaker 9: find that offensive line there, right, and then they turn

662
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Speaker 9: around and they remove larr and Mutunsel from the team.

663
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Speaker 9: You know, the guy last year was starting for him

664
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Speaker 9: as Juice Scruggs, and now he's not. You know, they

665
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Speaker 9: keep moving around different guys on their own on their

666
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Speaker 9: own offensive line. I think that's the piece that's they

667
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Speaker 9: can't find that continuity, which is so as you know,

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Speaker 9: so important. I mean again, it's it's what is it?

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Speaker 9: It's uh, Titus Howard's now moved over to right guard.

670
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Speaker 9: I mean he's been left tackle, right tackle guard. I

671
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Speaker 9: mean they can't find it. So I think that they're

672
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Speaker 9: struggling trying to find the offensive line and and and

673
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Speaker 9: until they get that settled, I think that's what's really

674
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Speaker 9: hurting this football team right now. And you know, obviously

675
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Speaker 9: they've got new guys out there in Blakelyn Dolinson in

676
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Speaker 9: the draft choice and Cam Robinson. So until that gets

677
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Speaker 9: settled down, I think you're going to see the same

678
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Speaker 9: problems that you're going to see a somewhat inconsistent team

679
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Speaker 9: that doesn't have the same moxie that it did a

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Speaker 9: couple of years ago.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I I watched the the Miami Dolphins, and I know

683
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Speaker 1: they had a players only meeting. I know they got

684
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Speaker 1: issues with Tyreek Hill, but I think their biggest issue

685
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Speaker 1: is they signed the wrong guy at quarterback. Right I

686
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Speaker 1: just am I being too harsh that the Dolphins thing

687
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Speaker 1: between McDaniel not seeming to have to be as discipline

688
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Speaker 1: oriented as he needs to be with some of those guys,

689
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Speaker 1: and then they've they've kind of figured out TOOA that

690
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Speaker 1: just feels if that thing feels like a.

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Speaker 9: Mess, it's it's definitely feels like a mess. It's definitely.

692
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Speaker 9: As a former GM they have a player's only meeting

693
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Speaker 9: after week one is almost unheard of, and so that

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Speaker 9: is a bigger red flag to me than anything, is

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Speaker 9: that they didn't realize this entire time that they weren't

696
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Speaker 9: put together. You know, that they weren't you know, giving

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Speaker 9: their best effort, and they weren't working together together to

698
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Speaker 9: try to get to where they need to be, and

699
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Speaker 9: they weren't helding each other accountable if somebody else isn't.

700
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Speaker 9: So all those things were those are you know, big concerns.

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Speaker 9: And look, they're going to play a Patriots team that's

702
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Speaker 9: clearly better with coach Brabele, who doesn't have the roster

703
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Speaker 9: that he needs to have still, but they're trying to

704
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Speaker 9: put it together. We'll see what they look like the Dolphins.

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Speaker 9: I get the sense we'll see a little bit better team.

706
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Speaker 9: In terms of Tua. You know, I'm not gonna I'm

707
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Speaker 9: not going to go there with him just yet and say, boy,

708
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Speaker 9: they signed the wrong quarterback. They don't have a lot

709
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Speaker 9: of options in Miami. I think they understood and they

710
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Speaker 9: banked off of what they had the year before. So

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Speaker 9: let's I need this was one where I need I

712
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Speaker 9: need a Patriots game to kind of get a better sense,

713
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Speaker 9: but to lose to the Colts the way they did,

714
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Speaker 9: to have a player's only meeting just continues. And knowing

715
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Speaker 9: mister Ross and how you know, sometimes he's got a

716
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Speaker 9: pretty quick leash in terms of head coaches. I think

717
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Speaker 9: this one's got you know, three or four weeks. This

718
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 9: team is one in four or one in five. I

719
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Speaker 9: think you'll see have changed really quick in Miami. I'm afraid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's crazy how quick that can it can

721
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Speaker 1: it can just get away from you. Just really, what

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Caleb Williams after watching him.

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Speaker 9: Monday, I still still don't trust the accuracy, Still don't

724
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Speaker 9: like him throwing on the move the way I would

725
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Speaker 9: like to see him. You know, it's no different than

726
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Speaker 9: who else struggled. To me after I went back and watching.

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Speaker 6: It, Caleb.

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Speaker 9: Murray, Kyler Murray, it was the same thing. He just

729
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Speaker 9: you know, the movement throws just it was like, there

730
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Speaker 9: are opportunities there and you've got to take advantage of

731
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Speaker 9: when the good guys do that, I mean, the really

732
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Speaker 9: good ones can do that. And Caleb to me, still

733
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Speaker 9: didn't show that, you know, the opportunities were there. Could

734
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Speaker 9: he take advantage of it, and so you know, I

735
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Speaker 9: thought it was average and and for how much they've

736
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Speaker 9: worked on that, you know, they had a shot to

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Speaker 9: win the game, and they certainly weren't positioned. It all

738
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Speaker 9: fell apart. It's how it works in the nationalbo League.

739
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Speaker 9: That sixty minutes. But you know, there's nothing easy for

740
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Speaker 9: the Chicago Bears. Detroit at Detroit this week, and so

741
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Speaker 9: I think they've got an early buy this year. I

742
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Speaker 9: think it's like week four, week five, So they need

743
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Speaker 9: to have some spark going into that one. And I

744
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Speaker 9: know that they've got at least Detroit and Dallas coming up,

745
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Speaker 9: I think the Raiders after that. So Caleb's got to

746
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Speaker 9: show that he can lead the team and be the leader,

747
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Speaker 9: but make the plays when they're there, and right now

748
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Speaker 9: he's just not doing that still.

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Speaker 1: Mark Dominic's our guests, a former general manager Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers join us. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy really tight, nervous, why shouldn't it be? First

752
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Speaker 1: game started? But then did make some plays late, some

753
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Speaker 1: of them were dialed up for him. What's your lovel

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Speaker 1: of confidence in JJ McCarthy moving forward?

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Speaker 9: Well, it's it's you know again, I'd like to see

756
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Speaker 9: a full game of it. You know, that's the most

757
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Speaker 9: important part. But what you liked is, you know, the

758
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Speaker 9: way it sounded like he handled the huddle, the way

759
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Speaker 9: he sounded like when things needed to get done, he

760
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Speaker 9: could take care of it. And you know, in the

761
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Speaker 9: confidence I think that he grew by the way he

762
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Speaker 9: handled the huddle. You know, I think those are all

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Speaker 9: exciting things for Vikings fans that you know, here's a

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Speaker 9: guy that when he needed to make a play, he did,

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Speaker 9: and he dialed up or not. You still got to

766
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Speaker 9: make the play, right, you still got to make the throw.

767
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 9: He's still got to make the opportunity. And so you know,

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Speaker 9: that was good. I thought he'd actually played a little

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Speaker 9: bit better than he did. But I'm hoping that you know,

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Speaker 9: he's again he's building on really his first game ever

771
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Speaker 9: in the National Football League as a starter. Not really,

772
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Speaker 9: but it is and now he's got it, you know,

773
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Speaker 9: an Atlanta team that was competitive in Week one. That

774
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Speaker 9: we'll see what they can look like. But uh, I

775
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Speaker 9: think that I'm still on the happy side of JJ.

776
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Speaker 9: You know, I just want to you know, he needs

777
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Speaker 9: to get his games in and get his goosebumps out.

778
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Speaker 9: But oh in all the way he handled the huddle,

779
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Speaker 9: the confidence he put into the players around him, I

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Speaker 9: think helped will that the Vikings team to that victory.

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Speaker 1: It's a show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic

782
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Speaker 1: is our guest. Was the Bills come back more about

783
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Speaker 1: the Bills or about the Ravens.

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Speaker 9: I think it was more about the Bills. I mean,

785
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Speaker 9: what happened with Derek Henry and the fumble heard around

786
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Speaker 9: the world. You know, that's disappointing, obviously for such a

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Speaker 9: guy that was just dominating. I mean, it felt like

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Speaker 9: there was no answer for the Ravens, right, It felt

789
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Speaker 9: like the Bills had no shot. But you know, when

790
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 9: you get a tip the ball and end up in

791
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Speaker 9: a touchdown in fourth and two, you know, you just

792
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Speaker 9: realize this might not be our night. And I don't

793
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Speaker 9: think it's anything bad about the Ravens. It's had unfortunate

794
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 9: things happened that usually don't. Derek Henry doesn't put the

795
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Speaker 9: ball down on the ground very often, and you usually

796
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Speaker 9: don't get some random tip ball turns into a touchdown

797
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Speaker 9: in fourth and too. So you know, I think the

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Speaker 9: Ravens are fine. You know, I think that the Bills.

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Speaker 9: There was an amazing victory for them both. I think

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Speaker 9: they play each other again in the postseason, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: About it, no doubt about it, no no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Who's the team that we haven't discussed that we need.

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Speaker 9: To I guess if you you know, that's a good one,

804
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Speaker 9: Doug when you said to think about who all played

805
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Speaker 9: well week one or who kind of surprised you and

806
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 9: looked better than expected. I mean, the Colts were probably

807
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Speaker 9: the number one team that was like, wait a second,

808
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Speaker 9: what's going on? What happened there? I want to see

809
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Speaker 9: a little bit more of the Colts, the Chargers, of

810
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Speaker 9: the team that I've always kind of felt it could

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Speaker 9: take a step. And I know losing Slater's a tough loss,

812
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Speaker 9: but I just felt like the Charges were a team

813
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Speaker 9: that was going to take a big step this year,

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Speaker 9: and I thought they can win the division. I feel

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Speaker 9: still confident in that, but I thought the Colts. I

816
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Speaker 9: want to see what they can do back to back

817
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Speaker 9: because that was the team that surprised me more than anybody.

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Speaker 1: Mark have a great weekend. Thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Appreciates me our guests in

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Speaker 9: The show, Thanks Dog, thanks for having me on