WEBVTT - Coaching Hearts with Cori Close

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we've spent

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<v Speaker 1>all morning clapping and singing. Asia Wilson's on top, top Top,

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<v Speaker 1>can't take.

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<v Speaker 2>Her spot, Spot Spot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, May fifth, and on today's show you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>my conversation with friend of the show, Corey Close, head

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<v Speaker 1>coach of UCLA women's basketball, from Thursday's espn W summit

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<v Speaker 1>in NYC.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To feel pride in a great season despite a disappointing ending,

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges of the transfer portal and watching players leave

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<v Speaker 1>her program, the unique challenge that she's going to face

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<v Speaker 1>coaching sisters Lauren and Sienna Betts, and coaching hearts not

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<v Speaker 1>jump shots. Plus it's been a while since we got

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<v Speaker 1>you up on the news. From world records to coaching changes,

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<v Speaker 1>playoff berths to statues, a whole lot has happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the last week, so we'll get to everything you need

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<v Speaker 1>to know. Plus preseason WNBA action and an ad deserving

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<v Speaker 1>of a Queen. It's all coming up right after this

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back slices. Here's what you need to know today

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<v Speaker 1>in WNBA news. The twenty twenty five preseason got underway

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, and in exciting fashion, for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in the league's twenty nine seasons, every preseason contest

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<v Speaker 1>will air on national television or stream online, which means

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<v Speaker 1>no more watching on a fans cell phone live stream.

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<v Speaker 1>This is progress, people, big time progress. Fans were treated

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<v Speaker 1>to two of those national TV games on I on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night. First, the Dallas Wings fell to the new

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<v Speaker 1>look Las Vegas Aces Squad one twelve seventy eight that

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<v Speaker 1>game on Notre Dames home floor. Number one overall pick

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<v Speaker 1>Page Becker's getting the start in that game, posting ten

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<v Speaker 1>points and four rebounds for the Wings in.

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<v Speaker 2>Her first w action.

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<v Speaker 1>Fellow Dallas rookies JJ Quinnerley and Aiah James added sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and ten points, respectively. It was also a homecoming for

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas guard Arigaygunbawale, longtime ACES star Jackie Young, and new

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<v Speaker 1>Aces acquisition Jewel All Notre Dame Melums. Later that night,

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<v Speaker 1>My Chicago Sky defeated the Brazilian national team eighty nine

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two in a homecoming game for Angel Reese and

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<v Speaker 1>for number eleven pick Hayley van Lith that took place

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<v Speaker 1>at LSU's Pete Marovitch Assembly center Reese checked out with

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen point, ten rebound double double, while HVL notched

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<v Speaker 1>seven points and five assists in her first WNBA action.

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<v Speaker 1>Then on Saturday, it was the Indiana Fever and Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Mystics putting on a show for viewers on NBATV and

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<v Speaker 1>those in person at Gainbridge Field House. In the first

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<v Speaker 1>overtime game of the preseason. Indy pulled out the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine to seventy four win behind twenty one points and

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<v Speaker 1>eight boards from new acquisition Sophie Cunningham. Both teams got

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<v Speaker 1>strong contributions from their draft picks as well, most notably

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<v Speaker 1>number three picks Sonya Citron posting fifteen points and four

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds for DC. No Caitlin Clark in that game as

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<v Speaker 1>she rested a leg injury, but she was in action

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday when the Fever took its turn against Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>back at Carver Hawkeye Arena on the Iowa campus, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>were lined up down the street to see Clark back

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<v Speaker 1>on her college court, sink and trays, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>in mid season mid court three form, already draining from

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<v Speaker 1>deep and given the crowd a show. The Fever crews

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<v Speaker 1>in that one one oh eight forty four. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>some more first looks at teams and players this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing I noticed about getting to watch all

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<v Speaker 1>this WNBA preseason action for the first time, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just that it's exciting to watch sure things like Page

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<v Speaker 1>Beckers get their first pro minutes. We're also getting to

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<v Speaker 1>watch bubble players and draft picks that are bubble players

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<v Speaker 1>get minutes. And with some popular college players already getting

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<v Speaker 1>cut from teams and surely more cuts to come, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually really glad that fans are being given the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to see these games. Not only can you see them

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for those spots and maybe start to understand why

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<v Speaker 1>they don't make it, but also, while you hope it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the case for some of these players, it could

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<v Speaker 1>end up being their only WNBA action, so it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>for fans to get to see it. Speaking of, with

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<v Speaker 1>roster spots at a premium, cuts are inevitable, especially for

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<v Speaker 1>rook keys, and sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>They happen before they even get in a game, which we.

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<v Speaker 1>Saw on Saturday when the Golden State Valkyries waved number

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen draft pick Chyenne Sellers before the Mariland grad got

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<v Speaker 1>any run at all in a violet jersey, and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>we've already seen some heartbreaking injuries in this young season.

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<v Speaker 2>Two.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Kentucky guard and Mystics number six draft pick Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Amore sidelined indefinitely with an ACL injury suffered in practice

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Also, Seattle Storm forward Katie Lou Samuelson is

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<v Speaker 1>missing this season with her own ACL tair also sustained

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<v Speaker 1>during practice. We're wishing both of them the best and

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<v Speaker 1>we're sending out injury free vibes for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the WNBA preseason. More hoops all of season two of

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN's Full Court Press is now available on Disney Plus

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<v Speaker 1>and ESPN Plus. This season follows Notre Dames Hanna Hidalgo,

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<v Speaker 1>Lsusvlaje Johnson, and USC's Keiky Erie Fen, who's now with

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Mystics in the w By the way, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of Hannah Hidalgo, did y'all see that clip of her

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<v Speaker 1>and former teammate who recently transferred, Olivia Miles. The two

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<v Speaker 1>were in a very heated conversation at this weekend's WNBA

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<v Speaker 1>game back at Notre Dame, and a security member eventually

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to encourage them to take their conversation out of

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<v Speaker 1>public view. Very interesting. We'll post the clip to our

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<v Speaker 1>show notes if you want to check it out to

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<v Speaker 1>NWSL news. Chicago Stars FC made a big change Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>letting go of head coach Lorne Donaldson. Donaldson, the former

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaica women's national team head coach, had been with the

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<v Speaker 1>Stars since last season. He took over a team that

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<v Speaker 1>finished dead last in twenty twenty three and led them

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<v Speaker 1>to a ten fourteen and two regular season record last

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<v Speaker 1>year with a playoff berth. This season, though, Chicago holds

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<v Speaker 1>a one to five to zero record, currently in fourteenth

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<v Speaker 1>place in the league. Now, they've been without star Mouse

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<v Speaker 1>Wantson all season, and they started the year with just

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<v Speaker 1>five defenders on the roster, so many are wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>Donaldson was in any position to succeed either way. He's gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the club's first assistant coach, Masaki Hemi, will step

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<v Speaker 1>in as interim head coach while the search for a

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<v Speaker 1>new leader takes place. This is the team's third coaching

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<v Speaker 1>search in four seasons. In on field action, both of

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<v Speaker 1>the NWSL's top teams, number one Kansas City Current and

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<v Speaker 1>number two Orlando Pride, dropped their games over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>On Friday, it was Seattle rain FC stymying the current

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<v Speaker 1>winning one nail up in the Pacific Northwest behind Lynd

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<v Speaker 1>Biandolo's first goal for her new club, and then on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Portland Thorns put one in the side of the Pride,

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<v Speaker 1>also earning a one nail victory. Raynarees strike in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth minute gave Portland the edge more NWSL. The league

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed to ESPN in a statement on Friday that it's

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<v Speaker 1>formally applied to the US Soccer Federation to launch a

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<v Speaker 1>Division two women soccer league, with plans to kick off

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six. Now Persebia Sports. Eight of the

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen NWSL teams have already committed to the D two league,

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<v Speaker 1>and each club would be required to have a second

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<v Speaker 1>tier team within the first four years. The idea behind

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<v Speaker 1>this second division is to offer a player development pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>under the NWSL, selling that fans and players and execs

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<v Speaker 1>have been hungry for in recent years. Commissioner Jessica Berman

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<v Speaker 1>telling ESPN quote, it's not as if the players aren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're there.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to be identified, they need to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the right technical environment. They need to be invested in

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<v Speaker 1>and developed in an age appropriate way that allows for

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<v Speaker 1>them to ultimately graduate into what we need for our

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<v Speaker 1>teams as we continue to scale, and what the US

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<v Speaker 1>national team needs as well.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote. So more footy news.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a shout out nwslstar Midge Purse of Gotham FC.

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<v Speaker 1>She isn't just talented on the pitch, she got acting

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<v Speaker 1>chops too. Purse made her Broadway debut on Thursday, delivering

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<v Speaker 1>the opening monologue for the critically acclaimed musical Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't the first time Purse has flexed her creative

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<v Speaker 1>muscles outside of competition. You remember, of course, she also

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<v Speaker 1>created NWSL reality series The Off Season, which debuted last

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<v Speaker 1>year to PWHL News. With playoff spots on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>it all came down to Saturday's regular season finales. Marie

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Puland scored twice to lead the Montreal Victoire to

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<v Speaker 1>a three two winner for the New York Sirens that

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<v Speaker 1>secured them the top spot for the postseason. The Ottawa

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<v Speaker 1>Charge or to playoff birth with a two to one

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<v Speaker 1>overtime winner for the Toronto Scepters, who had already clinched

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<v Speaker 1>their spot in the playoffs in the Minnesota Frost grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>the final spot with an eight to one win over

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<v Speaker 1>the Boston Fleet. Now, the first four games of the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs run Wednesday to Sunday, with the Montreal Victoire on

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto Scepterors hosting the first two games of best of

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<v Speaker 1>five semi finals. In the PWHL, the top seeded team

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<v Speaker 1>actually gets to select its semi final opponent, and on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night, the Victoire elected to face the three seed

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<v Speaker 1>Ottawa Charge, so it'll be Montreal versus Ottawa and Toronto

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<v Speaker 1>versus Minnesota. Also little bit of bulletin material for Ottawa

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<v Speaker 1>as Montreal chose to face them instead of the lower

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<v Speaker 1>seeded Frost. Of course, the Frost last year's PWHL champions.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the last PWHL playoffs stemming from a pool

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<v Speaker 1>of six teams because the league announced a second expansion

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<v Speaker 1>team on Wednesday, bringing next season's total to eight teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle named as the next city getting a franchise. Vancouver

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<v Speaker 1>was announced as the first expansion team back on April twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>third to the pool where Katie Ldeki broke her own

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<v Speaker 1>world record en route to winning the eight hundred meter

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<v Speaker 1>freestyle on Saturday night in a TYR Pro Swim Series

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<v Speaker 1>meet in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Ladeki now the owner of

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<v Speaker 1>the ten fastest eight hundred times ever and twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>of the top twenty five races at the distance. It

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<v Speaker 1>was her first world record swim in seven years. At

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<v Speaker 1>that same event, American Gretchen Walsh also twice lowered her

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<v Speaker 1>own world record in the one hundred meter butterfly, winning

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<v Speaker 1>that race Saturday night in Track News Grand Slam Track

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<v Speaker 1>the Pro League created by Team USA, Olympic legend and

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<v Speaker 1>four time gold medalist Michael Johnson, held its second Slam

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty five this past weekend, and friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the show and Team USA gold medalist Massi Russell put

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<v Speaker 1>together a historic performance in the women's one hundred meter

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<v Speaker 1>hurdles on the first night of racing. She ran a

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<v Speaker 1>win legal twelve seventeen to set a new American record.

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<v Speaker 1>That winning time also the second fastest in world history.

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<v Speaker 1>We see you, Massi, and we also see you Akira Nugent,

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<v Speaker 1>who actually bested Massi for the short hurdles slam win.

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<v Speaker 2>She combined a third place finish in.

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<v Speaker 1>The hundred hurdles with a win in the one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>meters All You Race. Officionado's Grand Slam track has two

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<v Speaker 1>more slams on the schedule for this year to get

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<v Speaker 1>excited for we'll link to the schedule in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>And some more track news. Athlos NYC, the women's track

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<v Speaker 1>event organized and back by Alexis Ohanian, is returning in October,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's now boasting some field to a new event,

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<v Speaker 1>the long jump. Tara Davis Woodhall, who took home gold

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<v Speaker 1>in longtip at the Paris Olympics, is set to headline

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<v Speaker 1>the list of competitors come fall. Athlos's twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>meet will take place on October tenth. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the long jump, there will be races in the one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred, four hundred, eight hundred and fifteen hundred meter

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<v Speaker 1>as well as one hundred meter hurdles. A track at field, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting fed today. Go ahead and put that on

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<v Speaker 1>your calendar too. In rugby news, a record breaking night

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday as Canada defeated Alonamar in the US twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six to fourteen in front of ten thousand, five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen fans in Kansas City. That's the biggest attendance

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<v Speaker 1>for a women's rugby game ever in the US. The

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<v Speaker 1>teams were facing off in the Pacific Four Series, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a four team tournament also featuring Australia and New

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<v Speaker 1>Zealand as they continue to prep for this summer's Rugby

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup in England. Finally, last week, the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Columbia honored South Carolina women's basketball coach Don Staley with

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<v Speaker 1>a statue on Senate Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Since being hired at SC in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>And eight, Stay has led the game Cocks to three

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<v Speaker 1>national championships, seven NCAA Final fours, nine SCC regular season championships,

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<v Speaker 1>and nine SEC tournament titles. She's also helped thirteen Game

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<v Speaker 1>Cocks earn twenty nine All America selections and has sent

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen players to the WNBA Draft, eleven of them first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks. Staley rejected the idea of getting a statue

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<v Speaker 1>at first, but it was those future generations that changed

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<v Speaker 1>her mind. She said, quote, I agreed to this statue

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<v Speaker 1>not for me, but for the girl who walks by

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<v Speaker 1>one day and wonders who I was. I hope she

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<v Speaker 1>sees I was a champion for equity and equality. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>slices before we hit a break, got a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>a story about our good game side Minnesota Aurora FC,

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<v Speaker 1>written by.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend of the show Jenna Tanelli.

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<v Speaker 1>It outlines the moves that the pre professional club has

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<v Speaker 1>been making to lay the foundation for a jump to

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<v Speaker 1>the pro ranks. We'll link to it in our show

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<v Speaker 1>notes so you can give it a read. Also a reminder, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>the Aurora's two game preseason starts May eleventh, and the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season kicks off with their home opener on May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty second, so mark your calendars. I'm hoping to make

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<v Speaker 1>it out there for the June twelfth game, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you more on a slices get together that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we could put together if I can swing it. I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to shout out friends of the show, Ali

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<v Speaker 1>Riley and Sid LaRue on the recent launch of their

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<v Speaker 1>BFFR podcast. They've got undeniable energy and chemistry and that

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<v Speaker 1>show has been so fun to watch on social so

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast is going to be great. We love to

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<v Speaker 1>see him thrive, and we'll link to a story about

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<v Speaker 1>the pod launch and where you can subscribe in our

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. All Right, we got to take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break when we come back coaching hearts with Corey close

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<v Speaker 1>stick around. I'd like to bring up someone who did

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<v Speaker 1>more this year, more than ever before in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of her program, first ever trip to the Final four

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<v Speaker 1>with her team. She's the head women's basketball coach for UCLA.

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<v Speaker 1>She has been since twenty eleven. Last season, she led

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<v Speaker 1>her squad to the program's first ever overall NCUBA Tournament

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<v Speaker 1>number one seed and their first ever trip to the

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<v Speaker 1>Final Four. Before UCLA, she had a couple stops as

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant coach, including at Florida State and UC Santa Barbara,

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<v Speaker 1>and back at UCLA as an assistant. As a player

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<v Speaker 1>for UC Santa Barbara, she was team captain for two seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>led them to the NCAA Tournament. In both seasons, she

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<v Speaker 1>was mentored by the legendary John Wooden. She drops knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>while driving in her car rides with Corey series. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the AP Nate Smith and WBCA Coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Corey glos.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach that bio is getting longer and longer. I just

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<v Speaker 3>need to hang out with you more often. It's way

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<v Speaker 3>better than it actually is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that is, first of all, not true, and secondarily,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start cutting it so we have more time

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<v Speaker 1>to talk. What a season for you, unbelievable. Now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course you want to win it all. Every year, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to win it all. Your team came up short

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<v Speaker 1>in the final four against the eventual winners in Yukon.

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<v Speaker 3>That's such a nice way of saying it. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>kep short. Yeah, a little short, a little short, little short.

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<v Speaker 1>How long before that disappointment subsided and the raining emotion

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<v Speaker 1>could be joy about what you'd achieved?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are we still working on it?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still waiting on it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this thing called the transfer portal, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so literally the moment we touched down after the final four,

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<v Speaker 3>it has been fourteen hours a day ever since then.

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<v Speaker 4>But there will be a time.

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<v Speaker 3>We did have one night where we had our celebration

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<v Speaker 3>banquet that I was able to go, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>we did do that. But I'm not there yet, but

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<v Speaker 3>I am sure going to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard.

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<v Speaker 4>It is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>That stinks. Yeah, it had such a great season.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just part of our new landscape and as

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<v Speaker 3>a whole sport, and it's some things we need to

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<v Speaker 3>address in that. But I'm not going to forget about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is. You know, we're talking about growing women's

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<v Speaker 3>sports and NIL and all the different things, and the

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<v Speaker 3>reality of how that translates in my world is I

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<v Speaker 3>got the ground running right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to the transfer portal later, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you an honest question. If not

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<v Speaker 1>for the transfer portal, do you think you would have

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<v Speaker 1>landed and been able to process what happened and be

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<v Speaker 1>happy or is that just who you are that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a while to get over the disappointment.

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<v Speaker 3>I think both, you know, honestly, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that I usually, you know, do a deep dive and

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>What can I learn? And those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do try to pause and count the victories

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<v Speaker 3>good and I want to live in sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>healthy tension of diving deep about how I can grow

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<v Speaker 3>and what it taught me and celebrating the things that

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<v Speaker 3>we did right and we want to continue to do right.

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<v Speaker 1>Satisfaction in the moment is super important, even if you're ambitious.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been at UCLA for fourteen seasons, the last ten

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<v Speaker 1>of them postseason runs, last year's Sweet sixteen this year

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<v Speaker 1>final four.

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<v Speaker 2>You just keep building. So in your mind, what would.

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<v Speaker 1>You say were the keys to getting the program where

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<v Speaker 1>it is now, where you're among the best in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the intention there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's you know, coaching within your lane

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of knowing who I am and I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned being mentored by John Wooden. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest gifts he gave me was that it was never

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<v Speaker 3>about trying to do it like somebody else. He would

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<v Speaker 3>always say, Hey, don't do it like me, do it

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<v Speaker 3>like you're made to do it. And I think one

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<v Speaker 3>of the keys for me is being really principal centered

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<v Speaker 3>and value based and knowing exactly what kind of program

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<v Speaker 3>was going to fit my leadership. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a big piece of consistency growth that surrounds knowing

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<v Speaker 3>who you are and the way you want to lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think you mentioned Woden. You had

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesdays with wooden seventeen year mentorship. You're just an assistant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>starting out at UCLA, you're terrified to meet him, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and you end up having a seventeen relationship where you're

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<v Speaker 1>now taking jobs far away and working to come back

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure you keep that connection. What was the

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<v Speaker 1>best or the biggest takeaway from those years with him?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always asked that, and it's like it's this rolodex

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<v Speaker 3>that goes if anyone knows what a rolodex still is,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>But also important note, and you can be honest, is

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<v Speaker 1>there any young person.

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<v Speaker 2>Here doesn't know who John Wooden is? We will not

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<v Speaker 2>be met.

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<v Speaker 4>Most of my recruits don't until I educate them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, Like just just a legend of coaching, not just.

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<v Speaker 3>Basketball more national championships, ten national championships in.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve years US and caremid of success is in every office,

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<v Speaker 1>in every basketball of Like it's just it's worth noting

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<v Speaker 1>that that is what we're talking about here is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who took you under his wing, verry late in his life.

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<v Speaker 4>Very late in his life.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I just got done going to the

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<v Speaker 3>Wooden Awards and his whole family was there, his you know,

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<v Speaker 3>his grandkids and really his great granddaughter Corey is the

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<v Speaker 3>reason I got in the door that my name was

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<v Speaker 3>spelled correctly like hers. But I think that you know

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest thing for me learning under him was it

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<v Speaker 3>was really never about the championships. That was a by

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<v Speaker 3>product of coaching young men's hearts. For him, it was

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<v Speaker 3>the men's basketball team. And he used to always say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're not coaching people's jump shots.

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<v Speaker 4>You're coaching people's hearts.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you coach their hearts really well, usually their

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<v Speaker 3>jump shots end up pretty good too. Yeah, And it

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<v Speaker 3>really was about He used to always say, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>judge a season by whether we win the championship or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I judge a season, all right, judge my coaching of

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<v Speaker 3>young men, of who they are ten years down the road,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years down the road. And you know, he really

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<v Speaker 3>taught me that the only two things that stay with

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<v Speaker 3>you for the rest of your life from these four

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<v Speaker 3>years as a student athlete is who you become and

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<v Speaker 3>who you impact. And all the championships, all those other

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<v Speaker 3>things are really a byproduct of doing those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I think the underestimation of culture is so massive,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly now when there is so much movement, or when

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<v Speaker 1>athletes you believe that they can kind of just coach themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, I think I always find when I

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<v Speaker 1>look at championship teams early in the season, there's already

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit of magic there that you see

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<v Speaker 1>between them, and then when they win later, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of saw this all along. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>really talented teams that should be winning more and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just missing whatever that is. And to me, that's usually coaching,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's bringing people together around things that are much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than just the x's and o's are.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's such a huge part of your job.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been coaching in some capacity for thirty years, which

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. You're now the winningest coach in Ucilly women's basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>So while these hot flashes keep happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that way Chili Faudi calls that personal summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh perfect, Yeah, I knew, I love Faudy. Okay, A

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<v Speaker 3>nice way to put a spin on something exactly. To

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<v Speaker 3>study with science so we understand this absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear how your job has changed since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety three, because yes, it's been x's and oaths,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm thinking about what's happened since ninety You have

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<v Speaker 1>cell phones that arrive in the locker room, you have

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<v Speaker 1>nil deals, the transfer portal leaps and TV coverage popularity

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<v Speaker 1>are known walking around campus. They're making millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The professionalization of the game is so good. It also

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<v Speaker 1>means player management, team building, Your interactions with the athletic

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<v Speaker 1>department and everything else have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you sum up what that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty years has been like in terms of growth and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding what's different now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think, you know, you were used to be

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<v Speaker 3>leading a team and now we're leading an organization. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think, so, you know, the good news is that

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<v Speaker 3>we're experiencing all that growth. The bad news is there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of competing things that could have the potential

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<v Speaker 3>to erode your values or the reason people have fallen

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<v Speaker 3>in love.

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<v Speaker 4>With women's sports.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think the balance of trying to lead

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<v Speaker 3>into opportunity, lead into great business models to maximize and

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<v Speaker 3>pivot for what the women's sports industry is demanding of

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<v Speaker 3>me as a leaders who's in essence of CEO now

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<v Speaker 3>and still coaching people's hearts and caring about culture and seeing, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>where do we need to go?

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<v Speaker 4>So what are these changes of landscapes really mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And how do we reverse engineer so that we're maximizing

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<v Speaker 3>opportunities and pushing forward as well as really you know,

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<v Speaker 3>staying with coaching people's hearts and knowing what you're made

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<v Speaker 3>of as an organization, and there's no substitute for that.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get the players to buy carefully? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're a kid and someone's dangling a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money, and that's awesome, and that's great and we

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<v Speaker 1>love that for them, but you have to help them

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<v Speaker 1>see the bigger picture, the longer road, the future, and

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<v Speaker 1>what it looks like if they keep the main thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the main thing, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately putting the ball in the basket.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, if you forget that, the money and the cool

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<v Speaker 1>stuff goes away. Yeah, And how do you cause I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to say it, but like, coaching people's hearts sounds

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<v Speaker 1>corny if it's not followed by authenticity and everyday investment

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<v Speaker 1>in people. So how do you get them to buy

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<v Speaker 1>in that that's really what you're doing and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to use those platitudes to access some next level

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<v Speaker 1>of basketball performance.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think there's two things. One is we still

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<v Speaker 4>are demanding.

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<v Speaker 3>The standard is a standard, and there are still championship

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 3>habits that need to be upheld. And that's in how

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 3>we interact, that's in how we practice, that's in all

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the different areas of our organization. So you know, the

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 3>standards don't change because people are pouring in money. It

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<v Speaker 3>just takes more responsibility to much as given, much as required.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the other part of it is playing

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<v Speaker 3>the scenario out for them and.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, hey, is that enough?

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<v Speaker 3>What if you do chase the money and what if

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<v Speaker 3>you get all the money you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that enough?

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<v Speaker 4>And I really believe.

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<v Speaker 3>That comparison is not only the thief of all joy,

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 3>it also stunts your maximum growth. So I'm like, you know,

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 3>is that what you want? I always say, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do nothing, you can experience self centeredness and

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 3>a titlement and because that's just what the culture will

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 3>tell you. But if you want to have a healthy organization,

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.919
<v Speaker 3>you want to have great relationships with your teammates, if

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 3>you want to be proud of who you've become at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of that season or the end of your

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 3>four years. Now you've got to Now you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be willing to put your phone away and not check

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.719
<v Speaker 3>social media of how they define you. But you have

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 3>to be willing to have pure accountability of how those

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 3>values are playing out. I just think, you know, I

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 3>just say what do you want at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>your road?

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And is that enough? And I know a lot of

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 3>people who have won championships and have been really empty

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 3>and lonely the next day because they didn't keep the

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 3>main thing the main thing, and they didn't really do

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.479
<v Speaker 3>it the right way, that that was a byproduct and

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<v Speaker 3>not the outcome being the most important thing.

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>It's like so cheesy, but the process is really the point.

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:34.439
<v Speaker 1>It really not the end to point, because there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many Olympic gold medalists that are like, oh wow,

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought when I finally want it would fix all

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>my problems. You has fixed zero of my problems. That

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:45.239
<v Speaker 1>the problems were unrelated to my goal of winning. It

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was who I was, or who my relationships were and

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>all those other things.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, just real quickly.

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 3>I always think about when Kobe Bryant was having his

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 3>banner raised number retired in then Staples and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this is not reward. The greatest reward of

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 3>my career was the work and who I became as

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 3>a result of the work. And I just always remember

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.640
<v Speaker 3>that that that is the real reward in all this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good story to tell you your players.

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And I know another one you tell your players involved

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 1>putting on your shoes and socks.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really interesting because one of the mentorship.

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Relations and how hard it is to bend down as.

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<v Speaker 4>You get older. Well that yeah, or really it's getting

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 4>back up.

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Now they have a tool for that.

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I found, So if things really start to go awry

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>for me, you can use a tool to put it on.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you send me that? That would be great?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, but that is really an amazing story that

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I'd heard a hundred times. Coach wouldn't used to tell

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<v Speaker 3>everybody that the number one thing he did on the

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 3>first day of practice is teaches players how to put

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 3>on their shoes and socks the exact same way and

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 3>to do it the right way and as well. Of

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 3>course he needed to do that. They had terrible shoes

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 3>and they got blisters, right, But I really missed the point.

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 3>And all these years later, when I became the head

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 3>coach at UCLA, I would bring in his former players

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 3>to do that for us, and one year it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was rayfer Johnson.

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>He passed away several years ago, but he Olympic gold medalist,

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, lit the torch in the eighty four Olympics.

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 3>So on and so forth also played basketball UCLA, and

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 3>he was teaching our players and he was just meticulously saying, well,

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 3>then you do this, and then you do that in

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 3>this gentle voice. And I was like, oh, isn't this cute.

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>We're keeping the memory alive. But he really got me

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 3>because at the end of it, he looked around our

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 3>room and he said, you know, actually I was really

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 3>insecure when I played basketball for Coach Winden. There was

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 3>all these all Americans, and I just was a track

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 3>guy that could run fast.

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 4>And he said, but it didn't matter. We had guys from.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Different religions, different backgrounds, different geography, different strengths. And he said,

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 3>but we actually learned how to become a team because

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 3>we all started by putting our shoes and socks on

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 3>the same way. I thought, oh, it's not just about

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 3>avoiding blisters.

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep, no, no, no, no, so simple, but very very profound.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the transfer portal London Jones, one of your

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>players entered the transfer portal and has now headed of

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>all places to your crosstown rival US. How do you

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>imagine that matchup will be the first time you're on

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the court facing off against her.

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, a mix of emotions because I will always adore.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 4>And love London Jones.

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know, we had really honest conversations right when

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 3>we got back about what do you want for this

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 3>senior year? And then is there alignment of what I

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 3>can promise you? And there I had this moment. I

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 3>didn't know it was going to happen at our banquet,

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 3>but I go through the top ten moments, and I

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 3>had talked about just her career and there's there's no animosity,

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 3>it's it's I just I deeply love her and she

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 3>will always be a part of that building process that

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 3>you eloquently described. And I bottom line is is that

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 3>if I'm going to be true to my word about

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>coaching people's hearts, I will root for her every game

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 3>except for two.

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know. And honestly I was talking about.

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Her and I just lost it at the banquet and

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I just looked at her and she got up out

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 3>of her seat.

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 4>From the back of the room and just came up

0:26:58.560 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 4>and just held me.

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 3>I can get ooked up right now thinking about it,

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 3>because bottom line is, we've shared so much and so

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, the transfer portal will always be hard. It's

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 3>not even though it's a lot more now. It has

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 3>always been hard. It breaks my heart every time somebody

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 3>chooses to go to somewhere else but what I wanted

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 3>any other way, because that would mean I don't care,

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 3>And so I really wish her and her family the best,

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 3>and I think it was the right choice for her, honestly,

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 3>and I think we couldn't provide for her this next

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>year what she really wanted, and so then I need

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 3>to say go.

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 4>And I support you one hundred percent.

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I love that the Transfer Portal. Fifteen hundred and fifteen

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>players entered the transfer Portal when the season ended. Just

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>for those who don't know, you could stay with your

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>team even if you enter. If your coach welcomes you back,

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you can go somewhere else, or your coach can say

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>just heads up, if you enter the transfer Portal, your

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>position here is no longer valuable to us or available

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to you, and good luck. And then if they don't

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>find somewhere else, they go to a different division, take

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a year off.

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's a risk.

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>And I never really got the idea that, like, yeah,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're gone, sometimes you can come back, but you

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>have to have that relationship in that conversation before you

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>try to enter. All four players from your freshman class

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>entered the portal.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Why, yeah, I think there are a lot of things.

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 3>Nol Fortner, who just retired from Georgia Tech and a

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 3>great coach. She said to me during the NCAA tournament.

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 3>She said, sometimes Corey, you can have too much talent.

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 3>And I think that was a reality for us that

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 3>we had thirteen I mean too many. There was only

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 3>one other team in the country that had more McDonald's

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 3>all Americans than we did, and I think there was

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 3>just not enough minutes to go around, and we didn't

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>have any seniors. We had the potential to have everybody

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 3>coming back, and so those freshmen were like, there's no

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 3>improvement chance for me. I'm not going to get more

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>minutes than I'm getting right now, probably, And so I

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>just I think I learned a lot as a leader

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 3>that probably it's impossible to keep that many people happy

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 3>this day and age, and so you know, they decided

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 3>that there were going to be experiences that were going

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to be better for them moving on, and you know,

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I think that unfortunately, that is our new normal in

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>terms of that if it doesn't happen pretty quickly, you

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 3>know they're going to move on, but there were four

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 3>great kids. They are four great kids, great families, and

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>you know it just it didn't work out for their

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 3>complete to complete their careers for four years.

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>And you're going to root for them every game except

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 2>for when you're.

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that is interesting because all of them except

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 3>for one went to Big ten schools and the other

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 3>one we're playing that team.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Great, so see all of them.

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Here we go ice reunion.

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hug it up.

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>How do those moves really affect your planning though, because

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it almost becomes like a professional team where if you

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have everyone on essentially one year deals, if you're recruiting

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and thinking I'm not going to need that, I've got

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>another three years of this player that has a similar

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>skill set.

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>You can't really do that anymore.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 3>No, you have to be very adaptable, and we're lucky

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 3>to be in a place like Los Angeles that we've

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 3>been able to actually leverage that to our own benefit.

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think everyone has that luxury.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 3>We've been lucky enough to have an nil budget that

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 3>can attract people, as well as to have opportunities in

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 3>LA that people want to come to on especially the

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 3>second time around.

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 4>So, but it's really hard.

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 3>And I think the other danger that's really important for

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 3>especially this room, is that one of the things that's

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 3>been so great about women's sports is that fan bases

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 3>can develop a connection over time. We don't have as

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 3>many one and done's before the transfer portal like men

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 3>have it in the transfer portal and in the NBA.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 4>We got to be.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 3>Careful that we really people love to support our teams

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 3>because they love to be connected to the journey of

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 3>our student athletes.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 4>And so I think it's a real challenge for me

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 4>as a leader in.

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 3>With all this mobility is how do we keep the

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 3>connections with our fan base and how do we make

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 3>them still fell apart when we have a lot of turnover.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>So that's going to be a real challenge that way,

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 3>But it really is a pro model. Now we need

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 3>to have some better boundaries. We need Congress to get involved,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 3>We need some other things to help put some healthy boundaries,

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 3>salary caps and things like that in women's basketball, in

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 3>college sports in general. But the reality is is that

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 3>we have a different challenge now.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 4>It is not the same.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 3>It is not our We can't pretend it's this amateur,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 3>little pure college environment anymore. It is a pro model

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>with some additions of scholarships and going to class and

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>other things. But I have to adopt as a leader,

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and we're going to have to try to find a

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 3>healthy tension in that.

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what a lot of people are saying.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>They're saying, we agree with the transfer portal and players

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>having the chance to make a choice the same way

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>coaches can leave.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 2>But there might need to be some more guardrails around.

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's the first one is a freebie, I agree,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and then after that you have to sit out a

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>year to make it really worth that decision that you're

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>making for both yourself and the program you're leaving. And

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>also you mentioned salary cap. A lot of people may

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>be confused about that. In the college space, we don't

0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>have time for it. But it is about to be

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the wild wild West if you haven't dug in deep

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>on House versus NC DOUBLEA on the impact of essentially

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>what's going to be a certain amount of money allocated

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to each school each year based on the TV rights

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>package deals. They will get to decide of their own

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>right who that money goes to. They could give twenty

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>million to a quarterback that they want to come that

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they think is going to win a title, and zero

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to everyone else. They can split it between basketball and football,

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they can give it to just men, they can give

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it to just women.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Ha ha. That would never happen. And that's gonna be wild.

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Because also when you're recruiting, you're gonna have to start

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>telling players, hey, we have this much of our nil

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>house versus NC double a budget allocated to our women's

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>basketball team, and I'm willing to give you thirty five

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>percent of it right for the first year, But then

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the second year the amount changes, and then we have

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to change the percentage because now we have to also

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>act like a pro team in that way.

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a mess.

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna keep a lot of lawyers in business,

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll say a lot of lawyers in business. But also

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 3>on top of that, it's like, where does Title nine

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 3>fit into all that? Ye, women's sports you described a

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 3>rocket ship and then we have this going well, but

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>we're going to give you eighty five percent of it

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 3>to in sports and so and I am all for that.

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I want men's sports to continue to do great things.

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to take anything away from that. But

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 3>how does do these decisions ride the wave of where

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 3>women's sports are showing they can go and.

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Ultimately the might they reinforce decades and decades of history,

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>which is while men perform, so we'll give it to them. Oh,

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>we've never tried to see if women will perform if

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we give it to them, we're going to continue to

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>not do like It's just it could be a repeat

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>of that and fights we've already had over and over again.

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you quickly about your player

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>rotation and how that affects the transfer portal, because this

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>is something you're learning as you go. You have these

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>nine player rotations that are great for basketball and for

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the team, but they are hard when you have to

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>convince people to stay on your team and get the

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>attention and the time and the points and the whatever

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that they need.

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna have to adjust that with the transfer portal.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't think actually it's gonna be more. I think

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 3>it's actually gonna be less. I think you can do

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>it maybe more during this early in the season, but

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:12.479
<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be an adjustment where people are like, well,

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 3>but I thought this was gonna happen or I thought

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I would owe this or can I just get a

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 3>few minutes, And I'm like, there's no you know, charity

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 3>minutes here. You know, like this is a pro model. Now,

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 3>this is professional sports, and you're gonna have to perform.

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't mean I love you any less off the court,

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean I'm pouring into you or your development any less.

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 3>But the reality is is that we have a responsibility

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 3>to perform. We have a responsibility to win, and you know,

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna play the people that are gonna help us

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 3>do that. And if that means that, I'm gonna have

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 3>to now plan that if you're not in the top eight,

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 3>probably you're not gonna get much time. And if that's

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 3>going to be the case, then we're gonna have to

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 3>have some I'm gonna have to plan accordingly that probably

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 3>more and more people are gonna leave.

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's hard.

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Some are arriving, though, like Sianna Betts, five star recruit

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>es fans number two player in the twenty twenty four class,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>joining her superstar sister Lauren, who is already completely unguardable

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and a total problem. Now we're gonna have another Bets

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in the mix there. I was just at a conference

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>last week and I was talking to you about this,

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and you got to watch this. I'm so glad you did,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>because these two sisters. What a fascinating dynamic. So much love,

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>so much support, and so much tension. Oh my goodness,

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 1>what a special, unique, contentious relationship sisters have, and particularly

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>when they both are extremely talented. And this is unique

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>because the younger sister's dream was UCLA and it was

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>not Lauren's dream, but she transferred to you, tell me

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>how you're gonna deal with all of this magic and challenge.

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, first of.

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 3>All, they both want to win, and I think that's

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 3>what I keep going back to, is right now, do

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 3>you help each other win? And that has to trump

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 3>everything else, right, And so you know, the reality is

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 3>a Sienna. You know, it was hard when when Lauren

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 3>committed to us to transfer. You know, Sienna wasn't very

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 3>happy for a while, and so really trying to convince

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 3>her for that one year that this could be a

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>really cool thing. It was really a neat actually story

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 3>that Sienna was on her visit and Lauren was in

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 3>her first year at UCLA, and Lauren did a whole

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 3>PowerPoint presentation about why Sienna needed to be a Bruin

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and I look over and just tears down Sienna's face.

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 3>There is a love there and a connection there. But uh,

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Sienna is not Lauren's little sister. And that's the biggest

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 3>thing I am going to protect if I can, I

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 3>won't be able to protect it all the time. Is

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 3>that Sienna is on her own incredible journey and I

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 3>can't wait to see that unfold. And she is not

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 3>Lauren's sister. She is Sienna and that's it, and so

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 3>and and Lauren the same. And I think there will

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 3>be challenges in that, but I just keep going back

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>to why did you choose us? And what you say

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to get accomplished and your behaviors need to

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 3>match that.

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't change just because your sister is here.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, but it does add some interesting wrinkles. It could

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>be absolutely incredible, and it'd also be a very new.

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Challenge for you.

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I didn't have enough right exactly, I didn't

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>have enough.

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>To do. List what have you learned over the years

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>thirty years of coaching about how each individual person needs

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to be coached, differently led, differently managed, inspired, motivated differently.

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest thing is uh, you know, I know,

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 3>I keep going back to coach John Wooden, but he

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 3>said the biggest form of partiality is to treat every

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 3>player the same. And I think there's a misnomer that

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 3>if you're treating players differently, that means you're changing the

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 3>standards for them.

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Those are not the same.

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I can my style of teaching can be different and

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 3>still hold the standard the same.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Sienna and Lauren are actually a great sample of this.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 3>I think I will coach Siena much differently than I

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 3>coach Lauren. And you know, they are wired differently, they're

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 3>motivated differently, they have different things that get in their way.

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 3>I always say that performance equels potential minus interferences. So

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>really it's not about how much talent you have, but

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 3>how you manage.

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 4>We all have interferences that come in.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 3>How you manage those And I just think that it

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 3>all goes back to genuine relationships and authentic culture, because

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 3>if you don't have genuine relationships and understand what each

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 3>individual's interference, you know, is, then you're going to have

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 3>a hard time helping them reach their potential.

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 4>So you know, I think that you can ever substitute.

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Quality time and really being a good listener, and as

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>that happens, you earn the credibility. My mom used to say,

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>you have to earn or you have to listen to

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 3>one hundred mundane things to have enough credibility to say

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 3>the one really important thing. And I think that's a

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 3>lot of coaching, right is that is I need to

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 3>listen to a lot of mundane things and just be

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 3>in their world and care about them for whatever is

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 3>important to them to earn enough credibility and to have

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 3>enough deposits so that I can say the one really

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 3>hard thing that's or that pivotal.

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Or that they can share the one thing that's really pivotal. Exactly,

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>they have to share those hundred things with you and

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 1>have you be there to hear them and see them

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>so they feel comfortable enough to tell you the thing

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that you actually.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Need to hear in order to help them well.

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 3>And I encourage anyone to read the article about Lauren

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Bets's journey in her mental health. That's exactly what I'm

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 3>thinking of and and it will inspire you. Her courage

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 3>has taught me so much, but the reality of that is,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what happened. And I give my associate head coach,

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Shannon lebuff is probably the best I've ever known in

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 3>doing just that.

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Is she related to Shia Labuff, not that I know of,

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know she like combination, justsed on some of

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>his previous as I.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Would think not because she's about as pure hearted and

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 3>steady as I've ever known.

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>So, now, what's the thing you do differently now that

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in your early years of coaching? I know you have

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>this great story about a player from UCSB that taught

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you a ton that's now in this weird.

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Unique I was texting with her right before this. She

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 4>didn't even know I was here.

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 3>She's in New York right now, but she will walk

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 3>on for us at U see Santa Barbara.

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Her name is Melissa Corpus.

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 3>And now her fiance is on Real Housewives of New York,

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 3>so if you want to check it out, Raquel, we

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 3>just love their whole family. But when she was came

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 3>to Santa Barbara, she you know, we are so easy

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 3>to be entitled and to take things for granted. And

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 3>she came as a walk on and right before and

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 3>she didn't travel with us and right before we went

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 3>on a trip for Thanksgiving, we gave her a one

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Duffel bag of gear, and she not only wore the

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.479
<v Speaker 3>gear the entire time we were gone, but she wore

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 3>the Duffel bag and all she kept saying. She had

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 3>the straps on Thanksgiving dinner and she had it all

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 3>with her and she just just kept saying, this is

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 3>the most amazing thing ever. And she just was like

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>going on and on, and she was so full of

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 3>gratitude the whole year that it brought joy that was

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 3>contagious to everyone around her. And she had the most

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 3>she could have complained about. She did the same amount

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 3>of work and everything else. And then on top of

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 3>it all, she had a life threatening kidney disease and

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 3>we ended up she ended up having a kidney transplant

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:33.479
<v Speaker 3>and is doing amazing praise God that she's doing right now,

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 3>but up to this day. But one of the things

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 3>that she said was basketball saved my life, and I

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 3>thought maybe she she meant the kidneys, you know, and

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't even that. She's like, you know, a lot

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 3>of people in her family are have tough choices.

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 4>And have ended up in not so good places.

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 3>And she said, you know, I'm the only one in

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 3>my family that had basketball, and it absolutely changed the

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>trajectory of my life. And now she's a PhD, incredible psychologist,

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 3>worked her way through NYU to get her PhD by Djning.

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 4>In Manhattan, of all things.

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 3>But it just taught me that the structure and life

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>lessons and combined with gratitude, changes people's lives. And I

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 3>don't care if it's my first year of coaching or

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 3>now that's ultimate goal.

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.439
<v Speaker 1>And you never know what someone's bringing to you, right

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like you never would have known that her family had

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>all those struggles, had so many people incarcerated, all this stuff.

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>You just would have known that she had had a

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>little different than you. And then she shows up and

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.879
<v Speaker 1>the gratitude and everything pours into you as well.

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 3>I definitely would say, I just have to say that

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.760
<v Speaker 3>my players have taught me more than I've taught. Yeah,

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 3>and that's probably what keeps me young and keeps me

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 3>in this and when that, if that ever flips, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well we do have to get out because we're

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody, Coreclost, thanks everyone, thank you very.

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