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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we've spent

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, May fifth, and on today's show you'll hear

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Speaker 1: my conversation with friend of the show, Corey Close, head

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Speaker 1: To feel pride in a great season despite a disappointing ending,

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Speaker 1: the challenges of the transfer portal and watching players leave

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Speaker 1: her program, the unique challenge that she's going to face

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Speaker 1: coaching sisters Lauren and Sienna Betts, and coaching hearts not

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Speaker 1: jump shots. Plus it's been a while since we got

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Speaker 1: you up on the news. From world records to coaching changes,

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Speaker 1: to know. Plus preseason WNBA action and an ad deserving

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Speaker 1: welcome back slices. Here's what you need to know today

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Speaker 1: in WNBA news. The twenty twenty five preseason got underway

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, and in exciting fashion, for the first

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Speaker 1: time in the league's twenty nine seasons, every preseason contest

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Speaker 1: This is progress, people, big time progress. Fans were treated

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Speaker 1: Friday night. First, the Dallas Wings fell to the new

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Speaker 1: Fellow Dallas rookies JJ Quinnerley and Aiah James added sixteen

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Speaker 1: Aces acquisition Jewel All Notre Dame Melums. Later that night,

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Speaker 1: at LSU's Pete Marovitch Assembly center Reese checked out with

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Speaker 1: a fifteen point, ten rebound double double, while HVL notched

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Speaker 1: Then on Saturday, it was the Indiana Fever and Washington

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Speaker 1: And one thing I noticed about getting to watch all

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Full Court Press is now available on Disney Plus

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Speaker 1: and ESPN Plus. This season follows Notre Dames Hanna Hidalgo,

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Speaker 1: NWSL news. Chicago Stars FC made a big change Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: letting go of head coach Lorne Donaldson. Donaldson, the former

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Speaker 1: Donaldson was in any position to succeed either way. He's gone,

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Speaker 1: and the club's first assistant coach, Masaki Hemi, will step

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Speaker 1: the NWSL's top teams, number one Kansas City Current and

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Speaker 1: On Friday, it was Seattle rain FC stymying the current

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Speaker 1: We got a shout out nwslstar Midge Purse of Gotham FC.

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Speaker 1: This isn't the first time Purse has flexed her creative

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Speaker 1: created NWSL reality series The Off Season, which debuted last

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Speaker 1: Philip Puland scored twice to lead the Montreal Victoire to

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Speaker 1: playoffs run Wednesday to Sunday, with the Montreal Victoire on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, the Victoire elected to face the three seed

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Speaker 1: This is the last PWHL playoffs stemming from a pool

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Speaker 1: the Pro League created by Team USA, Olympic legend and

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Speaker 1: the show and Team USA gold medalist Massi Russell put

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Speaker 1: And some more track news. Athlos NYC, the women's track

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Speaker 1: your calendar too. In rugby news, a record breaking night

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Speaker 1: Well. I think the underestimation of culture is so massive,

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Speaker 3: And so I think the balance of trying to lead

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Speaker 4: So what are these changes of landscapes really mean?

436
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 3: And how do we reverse engineer so that we're maximizing

437
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 3: opportunities and pushing forward as well as really you know,

438
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 3: staying with coaching people's hearts and knowing what you're made

439
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: of as an organization, and there's no substitute for that.

440
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,719
Speaker 1: How do you get the players to buy carefully? Yeah,

441
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 1: Like if you're a kid and someone's dangling a bunch

442
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 1: of money, and that's awesome, and that's great and we

443
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: love that for them, but you have to help them

444
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: see the bigger picture, the longer road, the future, and

445
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: what it looks like if they keep the main thing,

446
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: the main thing, which is.

447
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 2: Ultimately putting the ball in the basket.

448
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 1: Like, if you forget that, the money and the cool

449
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: stuff goes away. Yeah, And how do you cause I

450
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but like, coaching people's hearts sounds

451
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: corny if it's not followed by authenticity and everyday investment

452
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: in people. So how do you get them to buy

453
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: in that that's really what you're doing and you're not

454
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: trying to use those platitudes to access some next level

455
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Speaker 1: of basketball performance.

456
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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's two things. One is we still

457
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 4: are demanding.

458
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 3: The standard is a standard, and there are still championship

459
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 3: habits that need to be upheld. And that's in how

460
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: we interact, that's in how we practice, that's in all

461
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 3: the different areas of our organization. So you know, the

462
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: standards don't change because people are pouring in money. It

463
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: just takes more responsibility to much as given, much as required.

464
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: But I think the other part of it is playing

465
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: the scenario out for them and.

466
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: Say, hey, is that enough?

467
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: What if you do chase the money and what if

468
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 3: you get all the money you want?

469
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Is that enough?

470
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 4: And I really believe.

471
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Speaker 3: That comparison is not only the thief of all joy,

472
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: it also stunts your maximum growth. So I'm like, you know,

473
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: is that what you want? I always say, if you

474
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: want to do nothing, you can experience self centeredness and

475
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: a titlement and because that's just what the culture will

476
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: tell you. But if you want to have a healthy organization,

477
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 3: you want to have great relationships with your teammates, if

478
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: you want to be proud of who you've become at

479
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 3: the end of that season or the end of your

480
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: four years. Now you've got to Now you've got to

481
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: be willing to put your phone away and not check

482
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 3: social media of how they define you. But you have

483
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: to be willing to have pure accountability of how those

484
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 3: values are playing out. I just think, you know, I

485
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: just say what do you want at the end of

486
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: your road?

487
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: Right?

488
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: And is that enough? And I know a lot of

489
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: people who have won championships and have been really empty

490
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: and lonely the next day because they didn't keep the

491
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: main thing the main thing, and they didn't really do

492
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 3: it the right way, that that was a byproduct and

493
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: not the outcome being the most important thing.

494
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Speaker 1: It's like so cheesy, but the process is really the point.

495
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: It really not the end to point, because there are

496
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: so many Olympic gold medalists that are like, oh wow,

497
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Speaker 1: I thought when I finally want it would fix all

498
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: my problems. You has fixed zero of my problems. That

499
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 1: the problems were unrelated to my goal of winning. It

500
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: was who I was, or who my relationships were and

501
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: all those other things.

502
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Speaker 4: Well, just real quickly.

503
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Speaker 3: I always think about when Kobe Bryant was having his

504
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 3: banner raised number retired in then Staples and he said,

505
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: you know, this is not reward. The greatest reward of

506
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: my career was the work and who I became as

507
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 3: a result of the work. And I just always remember

508
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 3: that that that is the real reward in all this.

509
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: That's a good story to tell you your players.

510
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: And I know another one you tell your players involved

511
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: putting on your shoes and socks.

512
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Speaker 4: It's really interesting because one of the mentorship.

513
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: Relations and how hard it is to bend down as.

514
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 4: You get older. Well that yeah, or really it's getting

515
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 4: back up.

516
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: Now they have a tool for that.

517
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: I found, So if things really start to go awry

518
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: for me, you can use a tool to put it on.

519
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 4: Can you send me that? That would be great?

520
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: Okay, well, but that is really an amazing story that

521
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: I'd heard a hundred times. Coach wouldn't used to tell

522
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: everybody that the number one thing he did on the

523
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: first day of practice is teaches players how to put

524
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: on their shoes and socks the exact same way and

525
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: to do it the right way and as well. Of

526
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: course he needed to do that. They had terrible shoes

527
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: and they got blisters, right, But I really missed the point.

528
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 3: And all these years later, when I became the head

529
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: coach at UCLA, I would bring in his former players

530
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 3: to do that for us, and one year it.

531
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Speaker 4: Was rayfer Johnson.

532
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: He passed away several years ago, but he Olympic gold medalist,

533
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: you know, lit the torch in the eighty four Olympics.

534
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: So on and so forth also played basketball UCLA, and

535
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: he was teaching our players and he was just meticulously saying, well,

536
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: then you do this, and then you do that in

537
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: this gentle voice. And I was like, oh, isn't this cute.

538
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: We're keeping the memory alive. But he really got me

539
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: because at the end of it, he looked around our

540
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: room and he said, you know, actually I was really

541
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: insecure when I played basketball for Coach Winden. There was

542
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: all these all Americans, and I just was a track

543
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: guy that could run fast.

544
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 4: And he said, but it didn't matter. We had guys from.

545
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: Different religions, different backgrounds, different geography, different strengths. And he said,

546
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: but we actually learned how to become a team because

547
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: we all started by putting our shoes and socks on

548
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: the same way. I thought, oh, it's not just about

549
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: avoiding blisters.

550
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: Yep, no, no, no, no, so simple, but very very profound.

551
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned the transfer portal London Jones, one of your

552
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: players entered the transfer portal and has now headed of

553
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: all places to your crosstown rival US. How do you

554
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: imagine that matchup will be the first time you're on

555
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: the court facing off against her.

556
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: Well, a mix of emotions because I will always adore.

557
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: And love London Jones.

558
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: And you know, we had really honest conversations right when

559
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: we got back about what do you want for this

560
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: senior year? And then is there alignment of what I

561
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: can promise you? And there I had this moment. I

562
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: didn't know it was going to happen at our banquet,

563
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: but I go through the top ten moments, and I

564
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: had talked about just her career and there's there's no animosity,

565
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: it's it's I just I deeply love her and she

566
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: will always be a part of that building process that

567
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: you eloquently described. And I bottom line is is that

568
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: if I'm going to be true to my word about

569
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: coaching people's hearts, I will root for her every game

570
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: except for two.

571
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. And honestly I was talking about.

572
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: Her and I just lost it at the banquet and

573
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: I just looked at her and she got up out

574
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: of her seat.

575
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: From the back of the room and just came up

576
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: and just held me.

577
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: I can get ooked up right now thinking about it,

578
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: because bottom line is, we've shared so much and so

579
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: you know, the transfer portal will always be hard. It's

580
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: not even though it's a lot more now. It has

581
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 3: always been hard. It breaks my heart every time somebody

582
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: chooses to go to somewhere else but what I wanted

583
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: any other way, because that would mean I don't care,

584
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: And so I really wish her and her family the best,

585
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 3: and I think it was the right choice for her, honestly,

586
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: and I think we couldn't provide for her this next

587
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: year what she really wanted, and so then I need

588
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: to say go.

589
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: And I support you one hundred percent.

590
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: I love that the Transfer Portal. Fifteen hundred and fifteen

591
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: players entered the transfer Portal when the season ended. Just

592
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, you could stay with your

593
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: team even if you enter. If your coach welcomes you back,

594
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: you can go somewhere else, or your coach can say

595
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: just heads up, if you enter the transfer Portal, your

596
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: position here is no longer valuable to us or available

597
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: to you, and good luck. And then if they don't

598
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: find somewhere else, they go to a different division, take

599
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: a year off.

600
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: So it's a risk.

601
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: And I never really got the idea that, like, yeah,

602
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: if you're gone, sometimes you can come back, but you

603
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: have to have that relationship in that conversation before you

604
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: try to enter. All four players from your freshman class

605
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: entered the portal.

606
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: Why, yeah, I think there are a lot of things.

607
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: You know.

608
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: Nol Fortner, who just retired from Georgia Tech and a

609
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: great coach. She said to me during the NCAA tournament.

610
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: She said, sometimes Corey, you can have too much talent.

611
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: And I think that was a reality for us that

612
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: we had thirteen I mean too many. There was only

613
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: one other team in the country that had more McDonald's

614
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: all Americans than we did, and I think there was

615
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: just not enough minutes to go around, and we didn't

616
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: have any seniors. We had the potential to have everybody

617
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: coming back, and so those freshmen were like, there's no

618
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: improvement chance for me. I'm not going to get more

619
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: minutes than I'm getting right now, probably, And so I

620
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: just I think I learned a lot as a leader

621
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: that probably it's impossible to keep that many people happy

622
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: this day and age, and so you know, they decided

623
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: that there were going to be experiences that were going

624
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: to be better for them moving on, and you know,

625
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: I think that unfortunately, that is our new normal in

626
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: terms of that if it doesn't happen pretty quickly, you

627
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: know they're going to move on, but there were four

628
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: great kids. They are four great kids, great families, and

629
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: you know it just it didn't work out for their

630
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: complete to complete their careers for four years.

631
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: And you're going to root for them every game except

632
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: for when you're.

633
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that is interesting because all of them except

634
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: for one went to Big ten schools and the other

635
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: one we're playing that team.

636
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: Great, so see all of them.

637
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: Here we go ice reunion.

638
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, hug it up.

639
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: How do those moves really affect your planning though, because

640
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: it almost becomes like a professional team where if you

641
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: have everyone on essentially one year deals, if you're recruiting

642
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: and thinking I'm not going to need that, I've got

643
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: another three years of this player that has a similar

644
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: skill set.

645
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: You can't really do that anymore.

646
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: No, you have to be very adaptable, and we're lucky

647
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: to be in a place like Los Angeles that we've

648
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: been able to actually leverage that to our own benefit.

649
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: But I don't think everyone has that luxury.

650
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: We've been lucky enough to have an nil budget that

651
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: can attract people, as well as to have opportunities in

652
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: LA that people want to come to on especially the

653
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: second time around.

654
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 4: So, but it's really hard.

655
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: And I think the other danger that's really important for

656
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: especially this room, is that one of the things that's

657
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: been so great about women's sports is that fan bases

658
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: can develop a connection over time. We don't have as

659
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: many one and done's before the transfer portal like men

660
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: have it in the transfer portal and in the NBA.

661
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: We got to be.

662
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: Careful that we really people love to support our teams

663
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: because they love to be connected to the journey of

664
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: our student athletes.

665
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: And so I think it's a real challenge for me

666
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: as a leader in.

667
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: With all this mobility is how do we keep the

668
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: connections with our fan base and how do we make

669
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: them still fell apart when we have a lot of turnover.

670
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: So that's going to be a real challenge that way,

671
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: But it really is a pro model. Now we need

672
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: to have some better boundaries. We need Congress to get involved,

673
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: We need some other things to help put some healthy boundaries,

674
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: salary caps and things like that in women's basketball, in

675
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: college sports in general. But the reality is is that

676
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: we have a different challenge now.

677
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: It is not the same.

678
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: It is not our We can't pretend it's this amateur,

679
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: little pure college environment anymore. It is a pro model

680
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: with some additions of scholarships and going to class and

681
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: other things. But I have to adopt as a leader,

682
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: and we're going to have to try to find a

683
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: healthy tension in that.

684
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: And I think that's what a lot of people are saying.

685
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: They're saying, we agree with the transfer portal and players

686
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: having the chance to make a choice the same way

687
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: coaches can leave.

688
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: But there might need to be some more guardrails around.

689
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the first one is a freebie, I agree,

690
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: and then after that you have to sit out a

691
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: year to make it really worth that decision that you're

692
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: making for both yourself and the program you're leaving. And

693
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: also you mentioned salary cap. A lot of people may

694
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: be confused about that. In the college space, we don't

695
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: have time for it. But it is about to be

696
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: the wild wild West if you haven't dug in deep

697
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: on House versus NC DOUBLEA on the impact of essentially

698
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: what's going to be a certain amount of money allocated

699
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: to each school each year based on the TV rights

700
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: package deals. They will get to decide of their own

701
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: right who that money goes to. They could give twenty

702
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: million to a quarterback that they want to come that

703
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: they think is going to win a title, and zero

704
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: to everyone else. They can split it between basketball and football,

705
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: they can give it to just men, they can give

706
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: it to just women.

707
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: Ha ha. That would never happen. And that's gonna be wild.

708
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: Because also when you're recruiting, you're gonna have to start

709
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: telling players, hey, we have this much of our nil

710
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: house versus NC double a budget allocated to our women's

711
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: basketball team, and I'm willing to give you thirty five

712
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: percent of it right for the first year, But then

713
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: the second year the amount changes, and then we have

714
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: to change the percentage because now we have to also

715
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: act like a pro team in that way.

716
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a mess.

717
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna keep a lot of lawyers in business,

718
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: I'll say a lot of lawyers in business. But also

719
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: on top of that, it's like, where does Title nine

720
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: fit into all that? Ye, women's sports you described a

721
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: rocket ship and then we have this going well, but

722
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: we're going to give you eighty five percent of it

723
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: to in sports and so and I am all for that.

724
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: I want men's sports to continue to do great things.

725
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to take anything away from that. But

726
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: how does do these decisions ride the wave of where

727
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: women's sports are showing they can go and.

728
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: Ultimately the might they reinforce decades and decades of history,

729
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: which is while men perform, so we'll give it to them. Oh,

730
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: we've never tried to see if women will perform if

731
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: we give it to them, we're going to continue to

732
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: not do like It's just it could be a repeat

733
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: of that and fights we've already had over and over again.

734
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you quickly about your player

735
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: rotation and how that affects the transfer portal, because this

736
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: is something you're learning as you go. You have these

737
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: nine player rotations that are great for basketball and for

738
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: the team, but they are hard when you have to

739
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: convince people to stay on your team and get the

740
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: attention and the time and the points and the whatever

741
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: that they need.

742
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: Are you gonna have to adjust that with the transfer portal.

743
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: I don't think actually it's gonna be more. I think

744
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: it's actually gonna be less. I think you can do

745
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: it maybe more during this early in the season, but

746
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 3: there's gonna be an adjustment where people are like, well,

747
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: but I thought this was gonna happen or I thought

748
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: I would owe this or can I just get a

749
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: few minutes, And I'm like, there's no you know, charity

750
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: minutes here. You know, like this is a pro model. Now,

751
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: this is professional sports, and you're gonna have to perform.

752
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I love you any less off the court,

753
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I'm pouring into you or your development any less.

754
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 3: But the reality is is that we have a responsibility

755
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: to perform. We have a responsibility to win, and you know,

756
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play the people that are gonna help us

757
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: do that. And if that means that, I'm gonna have

758
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 3: to now plan that if you're not in the top eight,

759
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: probably you're not gonna get much time. And if that's

760
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: going to be the case, then we're gonna have to

761
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: have some I'm gonna have to plan accordingly that probably

762
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 3: more and more people are gonna leave.

763
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard.

764
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: Some are arriving, though, like Sianna Betts, five star recruit

765
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: es fans number two player in the twenty twenty four class,

766
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: joining her superstar sister Lauren, who is already completely unguardable

767
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: and a total problem. Now we're gonna have another Bets

768
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: in the mix there. I was just at a conference

769
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: last week and I was talking to you about this,

770
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: and you got to watch this. I'm so glad you did,

771
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: because these two sisters. What a fascinating dynamic. So much love,

772
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: so much support, and so much tension. Oh my goodness,

773
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: what a special, unique, contentious relationship sisters have, and particularly

774
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: when they both are extremely talented. And this is unique

775
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: because the younger sister's dream was UCLA and it was

776
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: not Lauren's dream, but she transferred to you, tell me

777
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: how you're gonna deal with all of this magic and challenge.

778
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: Well, first of.

779
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: All, they both want to win, and I think that's

780
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: what I keep going back to, is right now, do

781
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: you help each other win? And that has to trump

782
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: everything else, right, And so you know, the reality is

783
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: a Sienna. You know, it was hard when when Lauren

784
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: committed to us to transfer. You know, Sienna wasn't very

785
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: happy for a while, and so really trying to convince

786
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: her for that one year that this could be a

787
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: really cool thing. It was really a neat actually story

788
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: that Sienna was on her visit and Lauren was in

789
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 3: her first year at UCLA, and Lauren did a whole

790
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: PowerPoint presentation about why Sienna needed to be a Bruin

791
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: and I look over and just tears down Sienna's face.

792
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 3: There is a love there and a connection there. But uh,

793
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: Sienna is not Lauren's little sister. And that's the biggest

794
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: thing I am going to protect if I can, I

795
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: won't be able to protect it all the time. Is

796
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: that Sienna is on her own incredible journey and I

797
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: can't wait to see that unfold. And she is not

798
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: Lauren's sister. She is Sienna and that's it, and so

799
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: and and Lauren the same. And I think there will

800
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 3: be challenges in that, but I just keep going back

801
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: to why did you choose us? And what you say

802
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: you want to get accomplished and your behaviors need to

803
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: match that.

804
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: And that doesn't change just because your sister is here.

805
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but it does add some interesting wrinkles. It could

806
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: be absolutely incredible, and it'd also be a very new.

807
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: Challenge for you.

808
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't have enough right exactly, I didn't

809
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: have enough.

810
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: To do. List what have you learned over the years

811
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: thirty years of coaching about how each individual person needs

812
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: to be coached, differently led, differently managed, inspired, motivated differently.

813
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is uh, you know, I know,

814
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: I keep going back to coach John Wooden, but he

815
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: said the biggest form of partiality is to treat every

816
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: player the same. And I think there's a misnomer that

817
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: if you're treating players differently, that means you're changing the

818
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: standards for them.

819
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: Those are not the same.

820
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: I can my style of teaching can be different and

821
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: still hold the standard the same.

822
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

823
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: Sienna and Lauren are actually a great sample of this.

824
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: I think I will coach Siena much differently than I

825
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: coach Lauren. And you know, they are wired differently, they're

826
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: motivated differently, they have different things that get in their way.

827
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: You know.

828
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: I always say that performance equels potential minus interferences. So

829
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: really it's not about how much talent you have, but

830
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: how you manage.

831
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: We all have interferences that come in.

832
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: How you manage those And I just think that it

833
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: all goes back to genuine relationships and authentic culture, because

834
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: if you don't have genuine relationships and understand what each

835
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: individual's interference, you know, is, then you're going to have

836
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: a hard time helping them reach their potential.

837
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: So you know, I think that you can ever substitute.

838
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: Quality time and really being a good listener, and as

839
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: that happens, you earn the credibility. My mom used to say,

840
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: you have to earn or you have to listen to

841
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: one hundred mundane things to have enough credibility to say

842
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: the one really important thing. And I think that's a

843
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: lot of coaching, right is that is I need to

844
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: listen to a lot of mundane things and just be

845
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 3: in their world and care about them for whatever is

846
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: important to them to earn enough credibility and to have

847
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: enough deposits so that I can say the one really

848
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: hard thing that's or that pivotal.

849
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Or that they can share the one thing that's really pivotal. Exactly,

850
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: they have to share those hundred things with you and

851
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: have you be there to hear them and see them

852
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: so they feel comfortable enough to tell you the thing

853
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: that you actually.

854
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: Need to hear in order to help them well.

855
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: And I encourage anyone to read the article about Lauren

856
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: Bets's journey in her mental health. That's exactly what I'm

857
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: thinking of and and it will inspire you. Her courage

858
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: has taught me so much, but the reality of that is,

859
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: that's exactly what happened. And I give my associate head coach,

860
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: Shannon lebuff is probably the best I've ever known in

861
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: doing just that.

862
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Is she related to Shia Labuff, not that I know of,

863
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: but you know she like combination, justsed on some of

864
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: his previous as I.

865
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: Would think not because she's about as pure hearted and

866
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: steady as I've ever known.

867
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: So, now, what's the thing you do differently now that

868
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: in your early years of coaching? I know you have

869
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: this great story about a player from UCSB that taught

870
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: you a ton that's now in this weird.

871
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: Unique I was texting with her right before this. She

872
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: didn't even know I was here.

873
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: She's in New York right now, but she will walk

874
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: on for us at U see Santa Barbara.

875
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: Her name is Melissa Corpus.

876
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: And now her fiance is on Real Housewives of New York,

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Speaker 3: just love their whole family. But when she was came

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Speaker 3: to Santa Barbara, she you know, we are so easy

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Speaker 3: the Duffel bag and all she kept saying. She had

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Speaker 3: contagious to everyone around her. And she had the most

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Speaker 3: she could have complained about. She did the same amount

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Speaker 3: of work and everything else. And then on top of

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Speaker 3: and is doing amazing praise God that she's doing right now,

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Speaker 3: but up to this day. But one of the things

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Speaker 3: it wasn't even that. She's like, you know, a lot

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Speaker 3: of people in her family are have tough choices.

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Speaker 4: And have ended up in not so good places.

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Speaker 3: And she said, you know, I'm the only one in

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Speaker 3: worked her way through NYU to get her PhD by Djning.

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Speaker 4: In Manhattan, of all things.

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Speaker 3: But it just taught me that the structure and life

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Speaker 3: lessons and combined with gratitude, changes people's lives. And I

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Speaker 3: now that's ultimate goal.

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Speaker 1: And you never know what someone's bringing to you, right

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Speaker 1: like you never would have known that her family had

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Speaker 1: You just would have known that she had had a

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Speaker 3: I definitely would say, I just have to say that

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Speaker 3: my players have taught me more than I've taught. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and that's probably what keeps me young and keeps me

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Speaker 3: in this and when that, if that ever flips, I'll

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Speaker 3: get out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well we do have to get out because we're

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Speaker 2: out of time.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, Coreclost, thanks everyone, thank you very.

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