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Notre Dame is expected to make that 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.960 promotion coming up here in the next couple of days. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.960 After Brian Kelly left for LSU. Yesterday, when Brian Kelly 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.280 was with us in the second hour of the program, 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.520 I asked him about is he going to take assistance 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.679 to LSU? Yeah, you know, so you know, we're going 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.680 to hire the best coaches, right you know, I had 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.800 great coaches at Notre Dame. We can hire great coaches 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.360 here at LSU. So you know, they're employed right now 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.000 at Notre Dame. And you know, certainly we have to 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.199 be sensitive to that fact. Other guys that I would 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.040 I love to ask some of those guys join me here, absolutely, 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.360 but we have to go through the right process, and 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.839 you know that's that's going to be a food situation. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.880 Freeman is not a big name, he's never been a 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.400 head coach, but there's a lot of positives. He was 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.800 an assistant at Cincinnati, they grew into a mid major 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.839 conference power. The Irish defense has been great this year. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.080 And then maybe the biggest benefit for Freeman is emotional. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.240 When Kelly left, there was a lot of hard feelings. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.240 Fans across the country were mad, but it seems like 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.920 the team itself is rallying around Freeman and Tommy Reese, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.840 the offensive coordinator. Freeman's only thirty five. Now that could 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.920 be viewed as a negative. Lincoln Riley went from his 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.760 position of offensive coordinator at Oklahoma to head coach at 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:15.320 thirty three. Pat Fitzgerald, linebacker coach at Northwestern to head 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.239 coach at thirty one. P J. Fleck, when he took 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.440 over as head coach at Western Michigan, was thirty two. 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.400 He was thirty six when he got to Minnesota. Matt 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.560 Campbell took over Toledo at thirty two, went on to 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.919 coach Iowa State at thirty six. This is different. This 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.560 is different from all of those programs. You're running a 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:40.760 national brand now, and you know, the higher up you get, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.120 the less coaching you do. There's so much that goes 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.519 into being a head coach. You've got to manage everybody. Now. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.000 As a defensive coordinator, you walk in and you see 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.800 your guys, that's what you have to worry about. Now, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.640 you got to worry about the offense, and then the 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.880 special teams, and then the media, and then the booster, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.240 and then everybody else, the chancellor, the president. There's so 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.640 much more. And that's why I've said so many times 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.880 on this show, not everybody has cut out to be 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.160 a head coach because of everything that goes into being 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.880 a head coach. But we'll find out really soon how 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.160 good Marcus Freeman is going to be. Tommy Reese is 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.800 the offensive coordinator. Expectations at Notre Dame are high. They 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.640 should stay high. They have tough academic standards, they don't 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.239 get to play in a conference championship game, but they 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:36.160 do have the standalone name recognition, your own TV network, 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.320 and there still is that magic of Notre Dame. There 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.760 are a lot of things going on last night. Some 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.880 of it I can tell you about, some of it 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.560 I cannot, But I do know that LSU and Brian 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.520 Kelly wanted Tommy Reese, wanted him to be their offensive coordinator. 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.240 So Tommy Reese was the former Notre Dame quarterback and 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.360 he's I think twenty nine years of age and is 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:05.360 really highly thought of. So Tommy Reese is probably looking 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.880 at this situation going do I go to LSU with 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:14.320 Brian Kelly? Can I stay here? But if Luke Fickle 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.520 comes in, then he's going to bring in his own people. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.240 And it almost felt like Tommy Reese was the most 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:27.760 important chip here because if he leaves, do they promote 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.440 Marcus Freeman? Was it a package deal? And that's what 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.080 I was told last night. This was a package deal 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.719 that if Tommy Reese was staying now they felt the 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.320 continuity was there. You have your defensive coordinator who's now 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:45.080 being elevated to head coach. You keep your offensive coordinator, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:50.159 and you feel really good about it. They're combined ages. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.240 I don't think total Brian Kelly's, or at least it's 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.040 pretty close to it. Maybe two years older. He's sixty. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.080 You got thirty five and twenty nine, PAULI do the 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:05.560 math for me, okay, But you know, it just feels 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.279 like if if Notre Dame got this right, they got it, 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.000 that they hit a home run. But you know, here's 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.960 the other thing to factor. Notre Dame doesn't change. They're 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.360 still going to be the same hurdles there for Marcus 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:23.400 Freeman and Tommy Reese. Like these are institutional hurdles that 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.800 are going to be there. And I go back to 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:31.200 what Brian Kelly was basically saying to his players on 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.520 Monday morning, I'm leaving because I can't win a championship 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.200 with you. Now he can't say that, but I think 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:44.039 that Tommy Reese staying probably made it a lot easier 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.560 to bring in or you know, elevate Marcus Freeman and 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.320 make it a package deal. And I think that by 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.240 all accounts, they're hitting a home run. But then so 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.520 is LSU. LSU was backed into a corner because they 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.200 thought they had Lincoln Riley, and then they threw a 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:07.279 hail Mary and it landed at South Bend. USC got lucky. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.800 Who would have thought Lincoln Riley And now we got 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.880 to find out if Oklahoma couldn't hit a home run. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.640 But some of the things going on behind the scenes 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.159 last night fascinating, and it was happening in real time. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.920 I'm on the phone with Paulie a couple of times. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.320 You call me six times? Did I kept? I said, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.240 all right, you did the non goodbye. I just hear proof, Yeah, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.360 I know, I go, I gotta go. And then one 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.679 time I didn't even say I gotta go. I just clicked. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.520 And then I just wanted to make sure that we 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.600 were following it correctly, getting the right information there, talking 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.840 to the right people. But it was fascinating last night 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.800 what was going on in real time, and you were 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.760 trying to figure out. And then Tommy Reese gets in 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.800 front of the team and says, hey, this is where 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.960 I want to be. I love you guys, and then 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.520 posted the video and all of a sudden, it was 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:04.479 like boom ballgame. Tommy Rees Stang. Marcus Freeman is going 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.000 to get the head coaching job. Nothing's official yet. Nothing's 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:13.480 official yet. Sources close to me tell me that it's 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:18.680 a longer process for Marcus Freeman to be promoted to 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.040 being the head coach. Yes, Paul. Could the big winner 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.880 be Cincinnati football fans today, That's another possibility. I was 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.720 told last night that Notre Dame knew Luke Fickle was 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.160 not going to leave Cincinnati until they played in the 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.480 Final four. Now, I'll go back to a question I 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:41.360 asked Brian Kelly yesterday. I asked him, what if you 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.600 know what? I think the question is in there? Right, Satan, 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:48.280 here's Brian Kelly yesterday. Oh, okay, no wayman, hold on, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.280 I thought the question was in there. What if Notre 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:55.320 Dame was ranked third in the college football playoffs? Oh? 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.200 I don't know, Dan. You know those are those are 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.280 tough questions, you know, And I'm I'm pretty honest guy 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:06.080 and would would tell you, but those those are so 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.600 hard to, you know, to answer relative to what I 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.400 had done something different in that situation. And I really 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.640 couldn't tell you, to be honest with you, um, because 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:22.280 it's not the case. Um. But I really couldn't answer 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:27.640 that question. Fascinating. Luke Fickle is saying, now, I don't 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.320 know if he was offered the Notre Dame John, but 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.760 I do know somebody said that Luke is not going 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.520 to be available for a month because he feels like 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.560 he owes it to a Cincinnati you know players. Now, 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.400 if Cincinnati is eight, he might have been available. But 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.760 the fact that Ryan Kelly was saying, well, I can't 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.160 really say that. And what happens if after every the 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.600 dust settles this weekend and Notre Dame is somehow in 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:59.360 the final four and Cincinnati's not yikes? Right, good I 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:03.040 get to do over. Yeah, but but that's why this is. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.880 This is fluid. I mean, it's crazy, but Notre Dame 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:12.360 could end up in the final four. Yes, it's funny that, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.240 you know, you said, Luke Fickel feels like he owes 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.320 his players something. You don't get the sense Brian Kelly 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:23.440 believes he owes anybody anything. No, no, not a thing. Nope, no, Look, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.160 he made his decision. I know there's been uh, you 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.280 know Brady Quinn, who's going to join us tomorrow, former 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.240 Notre Dame quarterback. He was really upset about this. You know, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.480 Peter King was really upset about this. Is anybody upset 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:42.120 that Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma exactly? And I like Lincoln 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.480 Riley and he made a really smart business decision in 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:51.320 my opinion, But nobody's. Nobody's upset. It's just you. You 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.280 look at Notre Dame and it's polarizing. Brian Kelly polarizing, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:10:00.160 that's all this is. I mean, Brian Kelly did at 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.200 least meet with his team. I don't know if Lincoln 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.800 Riley did. I think he just got on a plane 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.640 and he was in southern California. It took his coordinators 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:12.040 with him. Yes, Yeah, that's one of those if you 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.680 go into the building and all of a sudden you 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.040 see some guys carrying out stuff. You know, you're going. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:25.719 Where are you guys going Southern California? What for forever? Oh? 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:32.080 You guys out recruiting out there? Oh god, what a 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.600 great business. Yeah, Polly, hey, coach, why are you leaving 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.520 all your winter coat and sweaters in the office and 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:41.240 take it off with the work show? Yeah? I did 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.680 hear some criticism of Riley that he's shot for not 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.080 wining to go to the SEC. That was one the 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.080 one thing, and I think we were all like, yeah, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.199 I don't want to go there either. But here's Brian 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.880 Kelly who wanted to go to the SEC. He didn't 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.480 get any credit for being tough for going to the SEC. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.920 You know, they look at it this way. Lincoln Riley 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:08.120 took an easier route to win a national championship or 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:13.640 compete for one. So did Brian Kelly in different ways. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.240 If you think about it, Brian Kelly had reached the 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:22.280 glass ceiling at Notre Dame. He doesn't worry about recruiting, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.559 he doesn't worry about academic, he doesn't have to worry 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.319 about any of that. At LSU, he just has to coach. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.760 Lincoln Riley, you're not going to go to the SEC. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.800 Don't have to worry about the competition there. You can 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.679 go to Southern California. You can stand alone in the 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.280 PAC twelve. You can be what Oklahoma was to the 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.800 Big twelve, and you can be that in the PAC twelve. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.360 They took different routes, but they're really saying the same thing. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.040 Bryan Kelly didn't think he could win a championship there, 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.440 and that's the one thing that's left out on his resume. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.920 You know, it's one thing when somebody says you won 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.840 more games than anybody in the history of Notre Dame 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:05.959 and then but no national titles. So when somebody says, well, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.439 the greatest coach in Notre Dame history, it's not gonna 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:14.760 be Brian Kelly. When they say the winningest, they're going 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.480 to talk about the regular season. Brian Kelly wants to 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:23.400 win a national championship. LSU was desperate. They paid the money, 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:27.079 that's all. But I don't know if there's any outrage 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.559 from anyone nationally. I know there is locally at Oklahoma, 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:37.079 but Lincoln Riley just left. It was how dare Brian 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.800 Kelly do this? Just be fair to everybody, because you 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.440 know what, next year, somebody else is going to do 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:49.040 it and a year after that. So the outrage should 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.200 be even because they're doing the same thing at the 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:59.880 same you know, same level, to the same players. Polk 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.960 watch him. Mcleven, What do you have? I have a 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.959 bunch of college football options. Let's start with who had 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.920 the best week. USC getting Lincoln Riley, Alice, you getting 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:15.480 Brian Kelly, Cincinnati likely securing their final four spot and 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.080 keeping their coach and keeping their coach. Maybe Lincoln Riley 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.200 for going to USC, Brian Kelly for getting paid. Do 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.600 you put Marcus Freeman if he gets a job's pretty 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.080 good gig. Yeah, this had nice promotion for him. Then, huh, 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:33.280 he's thirty five. He hasn't been a head coach eleven 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.320 months ago. He's the defensive coordinator at Cincinnati. Now he 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.440 could be Notre Dame's head coach at thirty five. I 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.400 think he had the best week. If he gets the job, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.520 he keeps his offensive coordinator, I think he probably you 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.160 knew Lincoln Riley was going to get a job, whether 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.160 it was NFL or some other plays. Brian Kelly had 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:58.560 feelers from everybody, including USC. Could you play USC as 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.400 having the best week? They're getting a lot of love 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.079 and had a great They had a great They may 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.040 win it. They had a great week. LSU had a 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.040 great week. Yeah, I'm the club. We also had a 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.559 Paul Paul had of course, what negative? Who will regret 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.240 the past week the most? Okay, Luke fickle? Will he 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.840 regret this way? Minute? Let's hold on, take a break, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.240 come back. Paul Feinbaum's going to join us. 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Before we get to Paul Finebaum, Paulie, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.960 you had a pull question for today college football related. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.920 Who will most regret the past week? Luke Fickle if 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.080 he passed on the Notre Dame job Oklahoma for not 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.440 matching USC's offered to Lincoln Riley, or Brian Kelly for 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.520 leaving the comfy job that he had to go to 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:46.400 the SEC. I don't think Brian Kelly is going to 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:54.120 regret it. Oklahoma, Aby And I don't know if Luke 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.760 Fickle was going to be offered the job at Notre Dame. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.920 I just know that somebody, a source said last night 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.440 that he wasn't going to be available for the next 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.520 month because he wanted to coach Cincinnati in the Final four. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.560 ESPN's Paul feinbaumb joining us the voice of the SEC 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:14.240 and SEC Network beginning at three Eastern. Paul will be 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.560 on the SEC Nation Live Saturday at two Eastern on 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.320 SEC Network ahead of the SEC title game. Paul joins 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.359 us down. Can you remember a week of coaching changes 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:31.000 that rival this in recent memory? No, because there's never 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.600 been one like this, Dan, and I was thinking to myself, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.879 it's Thursday, in the craziest week we've ever covered in 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:41.440 college football. What if after the game Saturday night, Nick 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.640 Saban announces he's retiring and Lane Kiffin takes his place. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:52.200 Who would that top everything else? Now you're not reporting that? No? No, please, okay, 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.200 that's just I was just I was just free associating. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.919 Is there any is there any chess move left that 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.720 could obliterate uh, you know, a thirty five year old 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:03.960 taking over at Notre Dame. The two moves that we've 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.960 obsessed over since Monday and Sunday and Monday, and and 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.640 that's really about it. Beyond that, it's it's the craziest 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.080 week ever. Who had the best week? Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:20.400 Marcus Freeman, others. I think in some way, Southern cal 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.800 did with Lincoln Riley, because you know, they have this 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.080 goal plated program that has been dormant since Pete Carroll 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.240 and they have infused energy in a town that, as 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:34.240 you know, needs needs buzz, needs sizzle, and he's done it. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.240 I think he will recruit fabulously well out there. There's 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:41.240 some many great players that are everywhere from Alabama to 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.160 Old Missed to Oregon, and you can you can find 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:48.840 a million other ones in between. I think, you know, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.560 Notre Dame is is a puzzle because so little is 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.399 known about Marcus Freeman and he hasn't been announced yet, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.560 but he's likely will. They're just making sure that he 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.360 hasn't done anything on his resume like Georgio O'Leary twenty 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.440 years ago. That's the only reason I think they're still 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.880 waiting up there. And I don't I don't blame anyone 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.119 for taking your time. I think LSU did well. I 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.040 mean Brian. I talked to Ryan Kelly yesterday, as I 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.800 know you did, and he's the most relaxed sixty year 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.840 old in America. He just he he just cashed to 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.320 his four oh one k for one hundred million dollars 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:27.159 and gets introduced to Cajun food. Does he know what 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:32.240 he's getting himself into? I think on one level he does. 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.920 I don't think he understands the lingo, and frankly, there's 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.760 no way you can. I've lived in Louisiana and it's 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.720 it's an incredible place, But the only guy who I 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.040 think ever really understood it is at Ozerd and he 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.679 just got fired, So I think you almost have to 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:51.040 throw that out. The Nick Saban looked lost eighteen years 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.119 ago when he parachuted in there from East Landing. Remember 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.679 the famous story, Dan. They sent the plane for his 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.600 staff and Saban's the only guy that got off. Nobody 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.400 else was leaving with him. Eventually a few more joined him. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.960 But that's just the way it is. And I think 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.080 fit is overrated a little bit. As soon as you 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.680 can start winning, fans will love you. They don't care 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.359 who you are and where you're from. Yeah, you start 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.359 to figure this out and you look at it like 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.760 the immediate success, I like what Notre Dame did. If 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.840 it meant you kept your offensive coordinator and basically your 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.960 defensive coordinator and they're young, thirty five and twenty nine, 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:35.080 it can be dangerous because now, if Marcus Freeman becomes 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:39.359 a head coach, everything that that entails. And I always 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:44.400 go back to Bill Belichick's coaching tree. You know, Charlie Weiss, 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.879 he's not a head coach, assistant coach, Romeo Cornell assistant coach. 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.960 When you take over the head coaching job and you're 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.720 at a franchise, I mean, this is a Notre Dame's 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.840 a franchise. It's like Duke, the Yankees, the Cowboys. You're 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:03.919 taking over something really enormous and really really polarizing. Is 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.119 there any other place in college football that comes close 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:11.400 to what the responsibilities will be at Notre Dame? Well, 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:15.440 probably Alabama, but I think that's a given. Yeah, And again, 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.119 I know a lot of young people are listening and 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.920 they're going, Notre Dame, what's the deal? But but but Dan, 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.879 When when we grew up, Notre Dame was the biggest 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.520 name in college football, and it still is on one level. 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.639 Now I think it's changed a little bit because the 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.359 sport has mostly moved south in terms of a recruit 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.119 where where recruits want to go. But it's it's you'll 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.560 never go wrong saying I just committed to Notre Dame. 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.400 We're talking to Paul Finebaum, hosts of The Paul Feinbaum 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:47.320 Show on ESPN Radio. Let's look at the what if 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:52.800 scenarios here. If you want to start with Alabama and Georgia. 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.840 Can Alabama. I know they can beat Georgia. Of course 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.600 they have a chance, but the likelihood that we could 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:05.000 see Alabama upsetting Georgia is what I think. It's pretty low. Dan, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.720 And you're talking to somebody who's most of his life 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.879 in Alabama and not not that our predictions matter, but 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.119 I will give you a stat I have not picked 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.200 against Alabama since the Iron Bowl in twenty ten, when 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:21.280 Cam Newton was the Auburn quarterback. And by the way, 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.159 they've only been an underdog one time since then, So 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.880 it's not like I'm really doing anything or going against Vegas. 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.359 You would you would be very wealthy if you had 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.720 been on Alabama every game over the last eleven years. 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.000 But it's hard for me to buy into. Well, Nick 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.359 Saban's on the sidelines, okay, Well, he was on the 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.680 sidelines at College Station. He was also there last week 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.879 at Auburn when Alabama should have lost. So I just 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.240 don't think the matchup goes very well. Yeah. I know 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.879 Kirby Smarts team with Georgia is in the playoffs, but 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.840 they don't care about that. I mean, they want to 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.760 beat Alabama. Kirby Smart can't walk down the street without 0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:00.359 somebody saying, how did you blow the last three Alabama games? 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.680 Two of the two of them in the National Championship game, 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.880 he had a he had a I think a thirteen 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.320 point lead. The next year in the SEC game I 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.600 bubblele he had a seventeen point lead, and he led 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.200 in the most recent game a year ago. So he's 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.640 had enough of that and he's ready to plant his flag. 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.720 I think in Nick Saban's throat, where do you think 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:25.400 we get the potential for biggest surprise this weekend? Well, 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.560 I do think Cincinnati is vulnerable against Houston. That's a 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.160 team that we just you know, we we haven't talked 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:35.080 much about, but they're on quite a hot streak. I'd 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.760 rather not say this out loud, that that what if 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:42.200 Michigan lost, because you know, I mean, I don't even 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.200 I'm not getting out of bed Sunday morning if Michigan loses, 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.280 because I don't even want to think about that possibility. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.600 But but but I've now I'm now the biggest Jim Harbaugh 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.879 fan in America. I hope he wins everything, never loses 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.480 another game. Wait, wait, what happened? That sounds like that's 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.680