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Speaker 1: first time since nineteen ninety and it looks like Notre
Speaker 1: Dame is going to promote the defensive coordinator, Marcus Freeman
Speaker 1: to head coach. Notre Dame is expected to make that
Speaker 1: promotion coming up here in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: After Brian Kelly left for LSU. Yesterday, when Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: was with us in the second hour of the program,
Speaker 1: I asked him about is he going to take assistance
Speaker 1: to LSU? Yeah, you know, so you know, we're going
Speaker 1: to hire the best coaches, right you know, I had
Speaker 1: great coaches at Notre Dame. We can hire great coaches
Speaker 1: here at LSU. So you know, they're employed right now
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. And you know, certainly we have to
Speaker 1: be sensitive to that fact. Other guys that I would
Speaker 1: I love to ask some of those guys join me here, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but we have to go through the right process, and
Speaker 1: you know that's that's going to be a food situation.
Speaker 1: Freeman is not a big name, he's never been a
Speaker 1: head coach, but there's a lot of positives. He was
Speaker 1: an assistant at Cincinnati, they grew into a mid major
Speaker 1: conference power. The Irish defense has been great this year.
Speaker 1: And then maybe the biggest benefit for Freeman is emotional.
Speaker 1: When Kelly left, there was a lot of hard feelings.
Speaker 1: Fans across the country were mad, but it seems like
Speaker 1: the team itself is rallying around Freeman and Tommy Reese,
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. Freeman's only thirty five. Now that could
Speaker 1: be viewed as a negative. Lincoln Riley went from his
Speaker 1: position of offensive coordinator at Oklahoma to head coach at
Speaker 1: thirty three. Pat Fitzgerald, linebacker coach at Northwestern to head
Speaker 1: coach at thirty one. P J. Fleck, when he took
Speaker 1: over as head coach at Western Michigan, was thirty two.
Speaker 1: He was thirty six when he got to Minnesota. Matt
Speaker 1: Campbell took over Toledo at thirty two, went on to
Speaker 1: coach Iowa State at thirty six. This is different. This
Speaker 1: is different from all of those programs. You're running a
Speaker 1: national brand now, and you know, the higher up you get,
Speaker 1: the less coaching you do. There's so much that goes
Speaker 1: into being a head coach. You've got to manage everybody. Now.
Speaker 1: As a defensive coordinator, you walk in and you see
Speaker 1: your guys, that's what you have to worry about. Now,
Speaker 1: you got to worry about the offense, and then the
Speaker 1: special teams, and then the media, and then the booster,
Speaker 1: and then everybody else, the chancellor, the president. There's so
Speaker 1: much more. And that's why I've said so many times
Speaker 1: on this show, not everybody has cut out to be
Speaker 1: a head coach because of everything that goes into being
Speaker 1: a head coach. But we'll find out really soon how
Speaker 1: good Marcus Freeman is going to be. Tommy Reese is
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. Expectations at Notre Dame are high. They
Speaker 1: should stay high. They have tough academic standards, they don't
Speaker 1: get to play in a conference championship game, but they
Speaker 1: do have the standalone name recognition, your own TV network,
Speaker 1: and there still is that magic of Notre Dame. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of things going on last night. Some
Speaker 1: of it I can tell you about, some of it
Speaker 1: I cannot, But I do know that LSU and Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly wanted Tommy Reese, wanted him to be their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: So Tommy Reese was the former Notre Dame quarterback and
Speaker 1: he's I think twenty nine years of age and is
Speaker 1: really highly thought of. So Tommy Reese is probably looking
Speaker 1: at this situation going do I go to LSU with
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly? Can I stay here? But if Luke Fickle
Speaker 1: comes in, then he's going to bring in his own people.
Speaker 1: And it almost felt like Tommy Reese was the most
Speaker 1: important chip here because if he leaves, do they promote
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman? Was it a package deal? And that's what
Speaker 1: I was told last night. This was a package deal
Speaker 1: that if Tommy Reese was staying now they felt the
Speaker 1: continuity was there. You have your defensive coordinator who's now
Speaker 1: being elevated to head coach. You keep your offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: and you feel really good about it. They're combined ages.
Speaker 1: I don't think total Brian Kelly's, or at least it's
Speaker 1: pretty close to it. Maybe two years older. He's sixty.
Speaker 1: You got thirty five and twenty nine, PAULI do the
Speaker 1: math for me, okay, But you know, it just feels
Speaker 1: like if if Notre Dame got this right, they got it,
Speaker 1: that they hit a home run. But you know, here's
Speaker 1: the other thing to factor. Notre Dame doesn't change. They're
Speaker 1: still going to be the same hurdles there for Marcus
Speaker 1: Freeman and Tommy Reese. Like these are institutional hurdles that
Speaker 1: are going to be there. And I go back to
Speaker 1: what Brian Kelly was basically saying to his players on
Speaker 1: Monday morning, I'm leaving because I can't win a championship
Speaker 1: with you. Now he can't say that, but I think
Speaker 1: that Tommy Reese staying probably made it a lot easier
Speaker 1: to bring in or you know, elevate Marcus Freeman and
Speaker 1: make it a package deal. And I think that by
Speaker 1: all accounts, they're hitting a home run. But then so
Speaker 1: is LSU. LSU was backed into a corner because they
Speaker 1: thought they had Lincoln Riley, and then they threw a
Speaker 1: hail Mary and it landed at South Bend. USC got lucky.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought Lincoln Riley And now we got
Speaker 1: to find out if Oklahoma couldn't hit a home run.
Speaker 1: But some of the things going on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: last night fascinating, and it was happening in real time.
Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with Paulie a couple of times.
Speaker 1: You call me six times? Did I kept? I said,
Speaker 1: all right, you did the non goodbye. I just hear proof, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I go, I gotta go. And then one
Speaker 1: time I didn't even say I gotta go. I just clicked.
Speaker 1: And then I just wanted to make sure that we
Speaker 1: were following it correctly, getting the right information there, talking
Speaker 1: to the right people. But it was fascinating last night
Speaker 1: what was going on in real time, and you were
Speaker 1: trying to figure out. And then Tommy Reese gets in
Speaker 1: front of the team and says, hey, this is where
Speaker 1: I want to be. I love you guys, and then
Speaker 1: posted the video and all of a sudden, it was
Speaker 1: like boom ballgame. Tommy Rees Stang. Marcus Freeman is going
Speaker 1: to get the head coaching job. Nothing's official yet. Nothing's
Speaker 1: official yet. Sources close to me tell me that it's
Speaker 1: a longer process for Marcus Freeman to be promoted to
Speaker 1: being the head coach. Yes, Paul. Could the big winner
Speaker 1: be Cincinnati football fans today, That's another possibility. I was
Speaker 1: told last night that Notre Dame knew Luke Fickle was
Speaker 1: not going to leave Cincinnati until they played in the
Speaker 1: Final four. Now, I'll go back to a question I
Speaker 1: asked Brian Kelly yesterday. I asked him, what if you
Speaker 1: know what? I think the question is in there? Right, Satan,
Speaker 1: here's Brian Kelly yesterday. Oh, okay, no wayman, hold on,
Speaker 1: I thought the question was in there. What if Notre
Speaker 1: Dame was ranked third in the college football playoffs? Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dan. You know those are those are
Speaker 1: tough questions, you know, And I'm I'm pretty honest guy
Speaker 1: and would would tell you, but those those are so
Speaker 1: hard to, you know, to answer relative to what I
Speaker 1: had done something different in that situation. And I really
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you, to be honest with you, um, because
Speaker 1: it's not the case. Um. But I really couldn't answer
Speaker 1: that question. Fascinating. Luke Fickle is saying, now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he was offered the Notre Dame John, but
Speaker 1: I do know somebody said that Luke is not going
Speaker 1: to be available for a month because he feels like
Speaker 1: he owes it to a Cincinnati you know players. Now,
Speaker 1: if Cincinnati is eight, he might have been available. But
Speaker 1: the fact that Ryan Kelly was saying, well, I can't
Speaker 1: really say that. And what happens if after every the
Speaker 1: dust settles this weekend and Notre Dame is somehow in
Speaker 1: the final four and Cincinnati's not yikes? Right, good I
Speaker 1: get to do over. Yeah, but but that's why this is.
Speaker 1: This is fluid. I mean, it's crazy, but Notre Dame
Speaker 1: could end up in the final four. Yes, it's funny that,
Speaker 1: you know, you said, Luke Fickel feels like he owes
Speaker 1: his players something. You don't get the sense Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: believes he owes anybody anything. No, no, not a thing. Nope, no, Look,
Speaker 1: he made his decision. I know there's been uh, you
Speaker 1: know Brady Quinn, who's going to join us tomorrow, former
Speaker 1: Notre Dame quarterback. He was really upset about this. You know,
Speaker 1: Peter King was really upset about this. Is anybody upset
Speaker 1: that Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma exactly? And I like Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley and he made a really smart business decision in
Speaker 1: my opinion, But nobody's. Nobody's upset. It's just you. You
Speaker 1: look at Notre Dame and it's polarizing. Brian Kelly polarizing,
Speaker 1: that's all this is. I mean, Brian Kelly did at
Speaker 1: least meet with his team. I don't know if Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley did. I think he just got on a plane
Speaker 1: and he was in southern California. It took his coordinators
Speaker 1: with him. Yes, Yeah, that's one of those if you
Speaker 1: go into the building and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: see some guys carrying out stuff. You know, you're going.
Speaker 1: Where are you guys going Southern California? What for forever? Oh?
Speaker 1: You guys out recruiting out there? Oh god, what a
Speaker 1: great business. Yeah, Polly, hey, coach, why are you leaving
Speaker 1: all your winter coat and sweaters in the office and
Speaker 1: take it off with the work show? Yeah? I did
Speaker 1: hear some criticism of Riley that he's shot for not
Speaker 1: wining to go to the SEC. That was one the
Speaker 1: one thing, and I think we were all like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go there either. But here's Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly who wanted to go to the SEC. He didn't
Speaker 1: get any credit for being tough for going to the SEC.
Speaker 1: You know, they look at it this way. Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: took an easier route to win a national championship or
Speaker 1: compete for one. So did Brian Kelly in different ways.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, Brian Kelly had reached the
Speaker 1: glass ceiling at Notre Dame. He doesn't worry about recruiting,
Speaker 1: he doesn't worry about academic, he doesn't have to worry
Speaker 1: about any of that. At LSU, he just has to coach.
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, you're not going to go to the SEC.
Speaker 1: Don't have to worry about the competition there. You can
Speaker 1: go to Southern California. You can stand alone in the
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. You can be what Oklahoma was to the
Speaker 1: Big twelve, and you can be that in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 1: They took different routes, but they're really saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: Bryan Kelly didn't think he could win a championship there,
Speaker 1: and that's the one thing that's left out on his resume.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing when somebody says you won
Speaker 1: more games than anybody in the history of Notre Dame
Speaker 1: and then but no national titles. So when somebody says, well,
Speaker 1: the greatest coach in Notre Dame history, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be Brian Kelly. When they say the winningest, they're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the regular season. Brian Kelly wants to
Speaker 1: win a national championship. LSU was desperate. They paid the money,
Speaker 1: that's all. But I don't know if there's any outrage
Speaker 1: from anyone nationally. I know there is locally at Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: but Lincoln Riley just left. It was how dare Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly do this? Just be fair to everybody, because you
Speaker 1: know what, next year, somebody else is going to do
Speaker 1: it and a year after that. So the outrage should
Speaker 1: be even because they're doing the same thing at the
Speaker 1: same you know, same level, to the same players. Polk
Speaker 1: watch him. Mcleven, What do you have? I have a
Speaker 1: bunch of college football options. Let's start with who had
Speaker 1: the best week. USC getting Lincoln Riley, Alice, you getting
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, Cincinnati likely securing their final four spot and
Speaker 1: keeping their coach and keeping their coach. Maybe Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: for going to USC, Brian Kelly for getting paid. Do
Speaker 1: you put Marcus Freeman if he gets a job's pretty
Speaker 1: good gig. Yeah, this had nice promotion for him. Then, huh,
Speaker 1: he's thirty five. He hasn't been a head coach eleven
Speaker 1: months ago. He's the defensive coordinator at Cincinnati. Now he
Speaker 1: could be Notre Dame's head coach at thirty five. I
Speaker 1: think he had the best week. If he gets the job,
Speaker 1: he keeps his offensive coordinator, I think he probably you
Speaker 1: knew Lincoln Riley was going to get a job, whether
Speaker 1: it was NFL or some other plays. Brian Kelly had
Speaker 1: feelers from everybody, including USC. Could you play USC as
Speaker 1: having the best week? They're getting a lot of love
Speaker 1: and had a great They had a great They may
Speaker 1: win it. They had a great week. LSU had a
Speaker 1: great week. Yeah, I'm the club. We also had a
Speaker 1: Paul Paul had of course, what negative? Who will regret
Speaker 1: the past week the most? Okay, Luke fickle? Will he
Speaker 1: regret this way? Minute? Let's hold on, take a break,
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Speaker 1: you had a pull question for today college football related.
Speaker 1: Who will most regret the past week? Luke Fickle if
Speaker 1: he passed on the Notre Dame job Oklahoma for not
Speaker 1: matching USC's offered to Lincoln Riley, or Brian Kelly for
Speaker 1: leaving the comfy job that he had to go to
Speaker 1: the SEC. I don't think Brian Kelly is going to
Speaker 1: regret it. Oklahoma, Aby And I don't know if Luke
Speaker 1: Fickle was going to be offered the job at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: I just know that somebody, a source said last night
Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to be available for the next
Speaker 1: month because he wanted to coach Cincinnati in the Final four.
Speaker 1: ESPN's Paul feinbaumb joining us the voice of the SEC
Speaker 1: and SEC Network beginning at three Eastern. Paul will be
Speaker 1: on the SEC Nation Live Saturday at two Eastern on
Speaker 1: SEC Network ahead of the SEC title game. Paul joins
Speaker 1: us down. Can you remember a week of coaching changes
Speaker 1: that rival this in recent memory? No, because there's never
Speaker 1: been one like this, Dan, and I was thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: it's Thursday, in the craziest week we've ever covered in
Speaker 1: college football. What if after the game Saturday night, Nick
Speaker 1: Saban announces he's retiring and Lane Kiffin takes his place.
Speaker 1: Who would that top everything else? Now you're not reporting that? No? No, please, okay,
Speaker 1: that's just I was just I was just free associating.
Speaker 1: Is there any is there any chess move left that
Speaker 1: could obliterate uh, you know, a thirty five year old
Speaker 1: taking over at Notre Dame. The two moves that we've
Speaker 1: obsessed over since Monday and Sunday and Monday, and and
Speaker 1: that's really about it. Beyond that, it's it's the craziest
Speaker 1: week ever. Who had the best week? Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly,
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman, others. I think in some way, Southern cal
Speaker 1: did with Lincoln Riley, because you know, they have this
Speaker 1: goal plated program that has been dormant since Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: and they have infused energy in a town that, as
Speaker 1: you know, needs needs buzz, needs sizzle, and he's done it.
Speaker 1: I think he will recruit fabulously well out there. There's
Speaker 1: some many great players that are everywhere from Alabama to
Speaker 1: Old Missed to Oregon, and you can you can find
Speaker 1: a million other ones in between. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is is a puzzle because so little is
Speaker 1: known about Marcus Freeman and he hasn't been announced yet,
Speaker 1: but he's likely will. They're just making sure that he
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything on his resume like Georgio O'Leary twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. That's the only reason I think they're still
Speaker 1: waiting up there. And I don't I don't blame anyone
Speaker 1: for taking your time. I think LSU did well. I
Speaker 1: mean Brian. I talked to Ryan Kelly yesterday, as I
Speaker 1: know you did, and he's the most relaxed sixty year
Speaker 1: old in America. He just he he just cashed to
Speaker 1: his four oh one k for one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: and gets introduced to Cajun food. Does he know what
Speaker 1: he's getting himself into? I think on one level he does.
Speaker 1: I don't think he understands the lingo, and frankly, there's
Speaker 1: no way you can. I've lived in Louisiana and it's
Speaker 1: it's an incredible place, But the only guy who I
Speaker 1: think ever really understood it is at Ozerd and he
Speaker 1: just got fired, So I think you almost have to
Speaker 1: throw that out. The Nick Saban looked lost eighteen years
Speaker 1: ago when he parachuted in there from East Landing. Remember
Speaker 1: the famous story, Dan. They sent the plane for his
Speaker 1: staff and Saban's the only guy that got off. Nobody
Speaker 1: else was leaving with him. Eventually a few more joined him.
Speaker 1: But that's just the way it is. And I think
Speaker 1: fit is overrated a little bit. As soon as you
Speaker 1: can start winning, fans will love you. They don't care
Speaker 1: who you are and where you're from. Yeah, you start
Speaker 1: to figure this out and you look at it like
Speaker 1: the immediate success, I like what Notre Dame did. If
Speaker 1: it meant you kept your offensive coordinator and basically your
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and they're young, thirty five and twenty nine,
Speaker 1: it can be dangerous because now, if Marcus Freeman becomes
Speaker 1: a head coach, everything that that entails. And I always
Speaker 1: go back to Bill Belichick's coaching tree. You know, Charlie Weiss,
Speaker 1: he's not a head coach, assistant coach, Romeo Cornell assistant coach.
Speaker 1: When you take over the head coaching job and you're
Speaker 1: at a franchise, I mean, this is a Notre Dame's
Speaker 1: a franchise. It's like Duke, the Yankees, the Cowboys. You're
Speaker 1: taking over something really enormous and really really polarizing. Is
Speaker 1: there any other place in college football that comes close
Speaker 1: to what the responsibilities will be at Notre Dame? Well,
Speaker 1: probably Alabama, but I think that's a given. Yeah, And again,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of young people are listening and
Speaker 1: they're going, Notre Dame, what's the deal? But but but Dan,
Speaker 1: When when we grew up, Notre Dame was the biggest
Speaker 1: name in college football, and it still is on one level.
Speaker 1: Now I think it's changed a little bit because the
Speaker 1: sport has mostly moved south in terms of a recruit
Speaker 1: where where recruits want to go. But it's it's you'll
Speaker 1: never go wrong saying I just committed to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Paul Finebaum, hosts of The Paul Feinbaum
Speaker 1: Show on ESPN Radio. Let's look at the what if
Speaker 1: scenarios here. If you want to start with Alabama and Georgia.
Speaker 1: Can Alabama. I know they can beat Georgia. Of course
Speaker 1: they have a chance, but the likelihood that we could
Speaker 1: see Alabama upsetting Georgia is what I think. It's pretty low. Dan,
Speaker 1: And you're talking to somebody who's most of his life
Speaker 1: in Alabama and not not that our predictions matter, but
Speaker 1: I will give you a stat I have not picked
Speaker 1: against Alabama since the Iron Bowl in twenty ten, when
Speaker 1: Cam Newton was the Auburn quarterback. And by the way,
Speaker 1: they've only been an underdog one time since then, So
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm really doing anything or going against Vegas.
Speaker 1: You would you would be very wealthy if you had
Speaker 1: been on Alabama every game over the last eleven years.
Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to buy into. Well, Nick
Speaker 1: Saban's on the sidelines, okay, Well, he was on the
Speaker 1: sidelines at College Station. He was also there last week
Speaker 1: at Auburn when Alabama should have lost. So I just
Speaker 1: don't think the matchup goes very well. Yeah. I know
Speaker 1: Kirby Smarts team with Georgia is in the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: they don't care about that. I mean, they want to
Speaker 1: beat Alabama. Kirby Smart can't walk down the street without
Speaker 1: somebody saying, how did you blow the last three Alabama games?
Speaker 1: Two of the two of them in the National Championship game,
Speaker 1: he had a he had a I think a thirteen
Speaker 1: point lead. The next year in the SEC game I
Speaker 1: bubblele he had a seventeen point lead, and he led
Speaker 1: in the most recent game a year ago. So he's
Speaker 1: had enough of that and he's ready to plant his flag.
Speaker 1: I think in Nick Saban's throat, where do you think
Speaker 1: we get the potential for biggest surprise this weekend? Well,
Speaker 1: I do think Cincinnati is vulnerable against Houston. That's a
Speaker 1: team that we just you know, we we haven't talked
Speaker 1: much about, but they're on quite a hot streak. I'd
Speaker 1: rather not say this out loud, that that what if
Speaker 1: Michigan lost, because you know, I mean, I don't even
Speaker 1: I'm not getting out of bed Sunday morning if Michigan loses,
Speaker 1: because I don't even want to think about that possibility.
Speaker 1: But but but I've now I'm now the biggest Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 1: fan in America. I hope he wins everything, never loses
Speaker 1: another game. Wait, wait, what happened? That sounds like that's
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek, Paul, Well, it's somewhat tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1: But I've heard from somebody good natured Michigan fans that
Speaker 1: are so well meaning, and I just don't I'd rather
Speaker 1: not deal with him again. I say, listen, uh, harbas
Speaker 1: as a as a chapter in many many books. But
Speaker 1: alcohol mistake can lose. I mean, all these are possibilities.
Speaker 1: They're not that far fetched. Oh man, if Michigan loses
Speaker 1: to Iowa, it doesn't does it undo everything? No? Because
Speaker 1: I think he was hired to beat Ohio State. Uh
Speaker 1: And and I think you know he got an unusual
Speaker 1: fan base, Dan, I don't need to enlighten you on that.
Speaker 1: Um and they wanted that game so badly. I think
Speaker 1: that was I know they'll argue, but I think in
Speaker 1: some ways that's what he had to overcome. I think
Speaker 1: he'll win. I think this is a non issue, but um,
Speaker 1: please don't. I mean, I love being on your show,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to see your name on my
Speaker 1: phone Monday morning if Michigan loses, because I'm going into
Speaker 1: a cave. What if Notre Dame somehow gets into the
Speaker 1: final four, Well, then then Marcus Freeman gets to become
Speaker 1: a hero. What was the guy's name at y? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what about remember the Remember the ntagam play basketball
Speaker 1: tournament with Michigan, right the guy? That guy nearly won
Speaker 1: the national championship. It would be one of those type
Speaker 1: of stories. And you know, everyone who says that the
Speaker 1: Committee will go against Notre Dame, I think they're wrong.
Speaker 1: I think they would like to embrace this story with
Speaker 1: a brand new coach. I think that's I think the
Speaker 1: narrative is completely wrong on Notre Dame. What about Oklahoma State?
Speaker 1: Could Oklahoma State get boxed out here? It's possible. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati is in. I think all these uh
Speaker 1: doomsdayers who think the Committee will go against Cincinnati don't
Speaker 1: don't understand the politics of this. And now I sound
Speaker 1: like one of those critics who who claimed the mothership
Speaker 1: makes every decision. They don't. But but I think Cincinnati
Speaker 1: is the favorite sign here. They if they win, they're in.
Speaker 1: Oh you think that, because I thought they if they
Speaker 1: keep them at four, then it's easier to drop them out,
Speaker 1: if you know, style a point style points here. I'm
Speaker 1: overthinking this, as I always do, Dan, but I just
Speaker 1: think that it would send such a bad message. And
Speaker 1: I don't you know, when these committee guys say, oh,
Speaker 1: we just we had to rereset button every week, I
Speaker 1: don't really believe that. I think if they want, if
Speaker 1: they didn't want Cincinnati, they would have kept them below
Speaker 1: that line because there there would be quite a reaction. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's not really well right now? College football doesn't care.
Speaker 1: All they care about is one hundred million dollars a coach.
Speaker 1: So but I'm pretty firm on Cincinnati getting in. Does
Speaker 1: Nick Saban get a raise? He should? Uh? And I
Speaker 1: wonder if you know Saban's calling you his agent, Jimmy
Speaker 1: sexon going, does somebody want me? I'm available for one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million And by the way, Dan Nick
Speaker 1: Saban is worth one hundred million dollars a year. Forget
Speaker 1: for ten years what he's done for college football, for
Speaker 1: his school, his league. Yeah, you put Nick Saban as
Speaker 1: a CEO on Wall Street or or a California tech company.
Speaker 1: He's making what stock options? He's making one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars a year? Easy? Yeah. I just wonder how long
Speaker 1: he wants to coach. He did lash out at the
Speaker 1: fan base. He flirted with Texas, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was just to say to Alabama, hey, understand
Speaker 1: what you have because there are other people who want me,
Speaker 1: or do you think he got close to taking that
Speaker 1: Texas john. I think he was closed. They offered him
Speaker 1: based on what the people with whom I've spoken about
Speaker 1: one hundred billion dollars back then. That was in twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. He told me once that he did not
Speaker 1: want to deal with the Texas boosters, meaning that there's
Speaker 1: too many people. When he looked to Alabama, he laid
Speaker 1: the law down. I'm running this program, don't bother me.
Speaker 1: And that was always the problem at Alabama. It's been
Speaker 1: the problem at a lot of schools. So he has
Speaker 1: total control and but but you know, he just turned seventy.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ready to walk away. But he
Speaker 1: does seem a little restless this year, doesn't he Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like irascible, sometimes gets cranky and he just doesn't
Speaker 1: want to deal with, you know, us minions there. I
Speaker 1: asked Brian Kelly yesterday if Notre Dame was ranked third,
Speaker 1: would he have left for the job at LSU? And
Speaker 1: he said, I can't answer that. What do you think
Speaker 1: he would have done? I think he would have had
Speaker 1: a difficult time doing that because you know, it would
Speaker 1: have it would it would have been perceived as unconscionable.
Speaker 1: It's much easier leaving when you're fifth or six, but
Speaker 1: it's no longer your responsibility. Do you think that he's
Speaker 1: basically said to the university and to his players yesterday
Speaker 1: or Monday, I can't win a national championship. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's exactly what he's saying. And he's right. Yea.
Speaker 1: And for all the criticism he has gotten losing to
Speaker 1: Alabama by twenty eight and twenty twelve, and the two
Speaker 1: playoff losses, the roster, I'll never forget on the field
Speaker 1: in Miami and you were down there. I remember seeing
Speaker 1: you at a restaurant the night before. I was walking
Speaker 1: around with somebody from the NFL and NFL executive and
Speaker 1: he said, these two teams don't even look the same.
Speaker 1: Alabama looked like an NFL team and Notre Dame looked
Speaker 1: like a good college team. That they're not comparable. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why he doesn't get the credit that
Speaker 1: he really is deserving. And there was no way he's
Speaker 1: ever going to get the five star defensive players up
Speaker 1: there and the elite athletes at wide receiver and running
Speaker 1: back in quarterback that Alabama, Georgia and a lot of
Speaker 1: the schools in the South and putting LSU get And
Speaker 1: that's why Marcus Freeman, if he takes over the job,
Speaker 1: it's still the same requirements, restrictions, hurdles at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing really changes. I mean, you change coaches, but
Speaker 1: you still have your same offensive, offensive and defensive philosophies.
Speaker 1: With those two coaches. You still have to get you
Speaker 1: have to work really hard to get those recruits in
Speaker 1: and Brian Kelly's probably saying, way, man, I can triple
Speaker 1: my salary. Yeah, it's the sec they won a national
Speaker 1: title a couple of years ago, and I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about anything academically. Where do I sign up?
Speaker 1: And at age sixty? Yeah, I think it's tried to
Speaker 1: say this because we know Saban won a championship at LSU.
Speaker 1: But I have to think Brian Kelly's saying to his
Speaker 1: wife less Miles and at Oseron won titles down there.
Speaker 1: I mean those guys, I mean I can do that.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of those guys, and you're now defined by
Speaker 1: and I think that's where he is. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't thought of it that way. But no offense.
Speaker 1: You were supposed to say, no offense to h with
Speaker 1: all Yes, of course, of course, great to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Paul is always thanks for joining us. Thanks Dan, a pleasure.
Speaker 1: That's Paul Feinbaum, the Voice of the SEC and you
Speaker 1: can listen and watch Paul Finbaum Show on ESPN RADI
Speaker 1: The Paul Feinbaum Show from Atlanta coming up on Friday
Speaker 1: on SEC Network and they of course we'll be there
Speaker 1: for the SEC Championship game as well. Andrew in Washington
Speaker 1: leads us off today. Hi Andrew, Hey, Dan by seven
Speaker 1: one five. Thank you been waiting that forever been listening
Speaker 1: to You've been watching you some Sports Center days. Real quick, Fritzie,
Speaker 1: thanks for the great T shirts. I wear him at
Speaker 1: the gym. Do arm day wear. I'm wearing Captain Obvious
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, you're right about that. But anyway, Hey
Speaker 1: had to follow up question real quick, do you think
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's staff, Tommy Reese, Marcus Freeman would have followed him,
Speaker 1: if he would have handled it, if he had more
Speaker 1: time than the twenty four hours, and if he would
Speaker 1: have had more chance to get that and going out.
Speaker 1: Just want to say, I love the back row, but
Speaker 1: I gotta say sucker back row. Okay, all right, fair enough?
Speaker 1: Sometimes that means you do love them by saying suck
Speaker 1: at back row. I don't know. I know. The time
Speaker 1: frame was tricky because Notre Dame needed answers out of
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese because Tommy Reese was, you know, was he
Speaker 1: going to go and follow Brian Kelly to LSU. But
Speaker 1: those two went out to the West Coast and were recruiting,
Speaker 1: and then one flew home to South Bend and the
Speaker 1: other one flew maybe to Baton Rouge and then to
Speaker 1: South Bend. You fly out private and then I think
Speaker 1: Tommy had to fly back commercial. How awkward would had that?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So you're out there recruiting, you're looking
Speaker 1: on a wide receiver, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: LSU starts to heat up, and then your attorney gets
Speaker 1: on the flight and then it's Tommy Reese and it's
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly and the attorney and it's the Notre Dame
Speaker 1: plane going to l Yeah, and it's like, uh, hey, uh, Tommy,
Speaker 1: maybe do a little more recruiting, and uh, whyn't you
Speaker 1: get a you know, we got a you know, two
Speaker 1: stops on a delta, that O kitchen and just South's bed. Tommy,
Speaker 1: we're gonna need you to find another ride. Okay, thanks Tommy,
Speaker 1: here's your boarder, here's your boarding pass. Coach, we don't
Speaker 1: need boarding passes from private. Chess well something saying yeah,
Speaker 1: you imagine Tommy Reese is there with this little suitcase.
Speaker 1: He's just waiting and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we got him. I think we landed the
Speaker 1: recruit coach. I think we got him. Not we you did.
Speaker 1: He's going to Notre Dame. I'm going to Lash. Here's
Speaker 1: some peanuts in the sprite half fun skippy. Oh hey
Speaker 1: am I on the flight? No? Really, I thought we
Speaker 1: were going in the same to the same place. Not directly.
Speaker 1: Not directly. Yeah, Paul Dan you took seat and I
Speaker 1: on a private plane once to Notre Dame actually, which
Speaker 1: is south. If you would have asked one of us, hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna fly commercial on the way back, I would
Speaker 1: have thought, Mabe, you upgraded me thrown beds is flying
Speaker 1: back with you? I'd say, Hey, I don't have any
Speaker 1: room here. I'm gonna take a break where we have
Speaker 1: our play of the day, settle on our poll question
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Speaker 1: don't want to say I told you so, but I
Speaker 1: told you so. LaMelo Ball is a star. He was
Speaker 1: awesome last night. Now you're gonna hear LaMelo Ball MVP
Speaker 1: candidate question mark. He is great, he's fun and I
Speaker 1: know that we have an aversion to his father, but
Speaker 1: you got to move past that because he is putting
Speaker 1: up big numbers twenty eight, eight and eight, and he's
Speaker 1: just learning. You can see that when you watch still
Speaker 1: learning the game. He's got so much ability and his
Speaker 1: shot is a lot better. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 1: He's making shots that I don't know if that jumper
Speaker 1: is worthy of that. But he has a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: He has the confidence that Lonzo, his older brother, didn't have.
Speaker 1: Now a Lonzo has developed and he continues to want
Speaker 1: to develop. That's the key a Lonzo. But LaMelo LaMelo
Speaker 1: is not afraid, not afraid of anybody. Then last night
Speaker 1: he was great in that loss. I tried to watch
Speaker 1: the Celtics seventy sixers. I tried, and it was a
Speaker 1: close game, but I just couldn't do it. It's one
Speaker 1: of those where you start to watch and you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm man, I'm gonna try to hold on for a
Speaker 1: little while. I can't. Yeah, the Al Horford faces his
Speaker 1: former team, the Sixers again, Horford and b that to
Speaker 1: do for you? Al Horford too, dribbles to the right
Speaker 1: little hook shot. Yeah, I just I couldn't hang in there.
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of college basketball last night. I've
Speaker 1: watched a lot of college basketball this week, but I
Speaker 1: was interrupted last night because I'm on the phone texting
Speaker 1: the whole thing with Notre Dame. What's going on? And
Speaker 1: then I was like, I'm I'm tired. I watched The
Speaker 1: Mayor of Kingstown with Jeremy Renner, So what's that about.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Renner is a guy on the outside and he
Speaker 1: sort of navigates negotiate what goes on in the local prison,
Speaker 1: and there's deals that are being made, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of a warden of the prison, but
Speaker 1: he's not. It's it's kind of a complicated job title
Speaker 1: that he has. I don't know exactly what he does,
Speaker 1: but he does seem to get a lot of things done.
Speaker 1: It's not really a job in an official capacity, no, no,
Speaker 1: but but Renter's really good in it. And uh, you know.
Speaker 1: There was one problem because if you watch the first episode,
Speaker 1: about halfway through, somebody gets killed that you didn't think
Speaker 1: was going to get killed because you thought they were
Speaker 1: going to be a star. They're already a star. But
Speaker 1: it's one of those where you're watching you go, wait,
Speaker 1: they just killed that guy. There's one of like three
Speaker 1: people that I know in this show. Yes, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I went, oh damn. Like when you watch the trailers
Speaker 1: you're watching and then you're going, oh, that guy's in. Okay,
Speaker 1: that guy's in, and you start to watch the first
Speaker 1: episode and you're like, oh, that guy's not in it anymore. Yes,
Speaker 1: h the Friday Night It's Cult, which we all really
Speaker 1: loved that show. Kyle Chandler, what's his role in that?
Speaker 1: I hope that doesn't give away anything. He was alive
Speaker 1: and he was dead. But I was going to watch
Speaker 1: that just because Kyle Chandler is in that. That would
Speaker 1: be the spoiler alert. Todd. Yeah, it doesn't end well,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, wait a minute, he's a big name.
Speaker 1: That's part of the reason why I wanted to tune
Speaker 1: in to watch it. Clear Eyes, Purehearts. Cad Louis, I
Speaker 1: guess he lost a couple of phone calls here James
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. Good morning, James. What's on your mind morning? DP?
Speaker 1: Six foot a fired up one? Okay, you know what's
Speaker 1: great about today, mister Patrick, is that Brian Kelly screwed
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bearcats in two thousand and nine by getting
Speaker 1: on the plane and not going to the Sugar Bowl
Speaker 1: for our defeated season to go to Notre Dame. Earlier
Speaker 1: this week, he tries to screw the Bearcats again by
Speaker 1: taking taking off the LSU and Notre Dame coming after
Speaker 1: Luke fickle. But the best part about all the says
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly goes to LSU's gonna get dog walked in
Speaker 1: the SEC and then on top of that, his last,
Speaker 1: his last career loss at Notre Dame is too Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Oh the irony. I can't wait for the Bearcats to
Speaker 1: roll this weekend and we're headed to the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1: All right, stop them Bearcats? All right, good luck against Houston.
Speaker 1: Don't overlook Houston at somebody who's watched two complete games
Speaker 1: with Houston this year, don't overlook them. By the way,
Speaker 1: in fairness to Brian Kelling, he left Cincinnati in a
Speaker 1: better position, and he's leaving Notre Dame in a better position,
Speaker 1: so we can we can rail against how he left.
Speaker 1: He can coach, and he's great at hiring assistant coaches.
Speaker 1: If you look at his coaching tree. He had Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur and he had Uh Salah Rob Slid Jets coach. Yes,
Speaker 1: they were Grat assistants with him at Central Michigan, I believe.
Speaker 1: And the story was Brian was having a party and
Speaker 1: he brought in Matt Lafleur, who's now the Packers' head coach,
Speaker 1: and Robert Sala who's the Jets head coach, and asked
Speaker 1: them to shovel snow outside his house. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: well I gotta earn your keeping. Come on, Grat assistant.
Speaker 1: Mister Miyagi made Daniel do the waxing, and look how
Speaker 1: that worked. Okay, Joe and Delaware. Hey Joe, what's I
Speaker 1: can imagine Matt la floor, the Packer head coach. You
Speaker 1: had him out there shovel and snow. Yeah, I need
Speaker 1: you guys to park these cars. Yeah, get them at
Speaker 1: the end of the night. They thought that they were
Speaker 1: being invited to the party, and they get there and
Speaker 1: then they have to shovel snow. Yeah, Paul, can I
Speaker 1: get a drink now? But you can grab the shovel,
Speaker 1: Robert Sala looks like you could shovel some snow though.
Speaker 1: Joe and Delaware, Hi Joe, what's on your mind today? Hey? Dad?
Speaker 1: How are you right? Appreciate that? And I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: as a lifelong Packers band if that helped bat mcclore,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm all for it. Hey, I think Paul
Speaker 1: fine Ball stole my thunder a little bit. I was
Speaker 1: going to argue that I thought Hardball Jim Harball had
Speaker 1: the best week of all, just finally getting that monkey
Speaker 1: off his back beating Ohio State. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: run something by you regarding Harball, you and the Dan h.
Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody else in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: era that has been good at all four levels of
Speaker 1: football college coach, college player, NFL coach, NFL player like Hardball.
Speaker 1: I know he hasn't what a championship at any of
Speaker 1: the four, but I honestly can't think of anybody else
Speaker 1: that succeeded at all four levels like Harball has. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he always gets the credit for that, right, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you Joe, give that a little thought here, But
Speaker 1: how many how many guys would qualify in that category,
Speaker 1: Like who's been college player, pro player, college coach, pro coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: McLevin Pete Carroll play. I have no idea if he did.
Speaker 1: He didn't play at a high level. But is there
Speaker 1: anybody who comes close to that? Trying to think off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. You know, it's tricky because
Speaker 1: you're talking about college, pro player, college pro coach. Not
Speaker 1: many people would qualify for that. Yeah, mclev Spurrier did
Speaker 1: not have NFL because he did not he won a Heisman.
Speaker 1: He was not a good pro quarterback, Hardball was a
Speaker 1: pretty good pro quarterback. Yeah. Paul Pete Carroll played college
Speaker 1: football first out of junior college. Then he played at
Speaker 1: the University of the Pacific. He was a free safety.
Speaker 1: He was All Pacific Coast Conference. Okay, all right, one
Speaker 1: hour in the books, two more to go, more phone calls.
Speaker 1: Maybe he changed the poll. Question age seven seven three
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