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At this point 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.559 of the season, Mondays are almost as important as Sundays 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.600 for some teams. That's because these teams get the MRI 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.200 results and every team gets to find out how bad 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.159 the damage is or was the day before you know. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.200 The Packers got good news running back Aaron Jones. He's 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.400 gonna miss a week or two with a mild amcl spring. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.519 Steelers found out that t J. Watt no structural damage 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.160 in his hip and knee despite a scary looking injury 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.200 on Sunday. The news not as good for Washington as 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.680 Chase Young He'll miss the rest of the season with 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.360 the knee injury. This is just Week ten. The only 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.319 thing we can predict for sure about the rest of 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.959 the season is health will be one of, if not 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:16.760 the most important storyline. The Bucks have stayed healthy. They 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.240 stayed healthy last year. They won the Super Bowl. This 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.440 year not as much. They've been waiting for Gronk and 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.560 Antonio Brown. They still have time to clean things up. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.160 But we're at that time of the year when a 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.440 team's future might be effected greatly by what happens on 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.760 a Monday MRI as opposed to what happens on a 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.760 Sunday the Rams. Last night, you go into San Francisco 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.959 and somehow couldn't stop the run again. That's five consecutive 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.720 wins for Kyle Shanahan versus the Rams. And they do 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.520 it by running the football. You know, when you're running 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.280 it twenty five or thirty times, a lot of times 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.600 you just keep running the football. You may not get 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:00.120 big numbers, but you keep pounding away, pounding away, and 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.680 then you loosen up the defense. And it takes a 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.919 toll when you're out there that long. When you're running 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.560 the ball thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, forty times 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.040 in a game, and this is a defense that's not 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.639 predicated on stopping the run. They didn't put any pressure 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.480 on Jimmy Garoppolo and as a result, forty nine ers 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.920 got a convincing win. You also had a situation with 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:27.680 Matthew Stafford throwing a couple of first quarter interceptions. Here 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:32.600 is Sean McVay saying that after the bye week, they're 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.680 going to be back. We'll look inwardly, we're gonna figure 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.920 this thing out, and we're gonna come back for freaking swinging. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.800 I promise you that. All Right, these last seven games 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.359 of the regular season, all right, they got a bye 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.680 week and then they got green Bay. You're gonna come 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.040 out swinging, and you go to Green Bay still got 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.079 to win this division. You can talk tough. You got 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.720 playtoff and going to green Bay better be able to 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.560 stop the run. Yes, McLevin, you've wanted a team to 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.320 be control arian and just go run, run, run, run. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.560 In today's NFL, is this the year that a team 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.920 like that wins the Super Bowl? Well that's why I 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.519 love the Titans this year because they improve their defense. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.960 I thought Julio Jones would have a larger impact. And 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.320 you run the football because once you get to the playoffs, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.200 all you have to do is get there. Now you 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.680 have to match up with us. If you play ten 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.559 times against the team, you may beat that team eight times. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.640 But in the playoffs, it's just trickier. And we've seen 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:34.360 that where teams kind of counterattack. What you do, control 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.320 the ball, play good defense, run the football. And that's 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.840 what I loved about the Titans. There's nobody like the Titans. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.760 Now the Cleveland Browns, I think are trying to be 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.000 like the Titans. They just haven't had their running backs healthy. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.080 And that defense. Where's that defense that's been non existent? 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.280 And I think when you look at the playoffs, who's 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:57.520 built for the playoffs? They're baseball teams. Baseball teams in particular, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.960 they're built for the regular season. They're not built for 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.440 the postseason. I go back to the Seattle Mariners when 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.120 they won but one hundred and sixteen games and they 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.160 got to the postseason. They didn't have that number one, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.080 number two starter, in my opinion, and you gotta have 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.000 that at least back then you did. Now not the same. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.160 But you know, these teams that are built for we're 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.479 a really tough matchup for you. Mismatch, and that's why 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.000 I like what I see with the Titans. Sunday night, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.599 it'll be the Steelers and t J. Watt going to 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.599 Los Angeles against Justin Herbert and the Chargers at Sunday 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:38.239 at seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. It's about time 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:43.239 the Chargers start acting like a playoff team because these games. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.000 You can't be losing these games at home and they 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.640 look average right now. Yeah, mclovin, I gotta tell you 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.520 Ben better be off the COVID list because if I 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.960 have to watch Mason Rudolf a standalone game again, oh, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.080 that's not fair. Like Mason Rudolph is not the future. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.920 No offense, no, no offense ends, He's just not the future. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.040 That's where if you're a Steeler fan, you go, Okay, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.200 Ben's not the future. Mason Rudolph's not the future. Um, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:16.080 who is the future here? Dwayne Haskins. Maybe Jimmy Garoppolo. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.719 Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be a starter. I feel 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:25.560 like someplace next year, not San Francisco. Do we want 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.600 to play the Jimmy Garoppolo game where Jimmy is going 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:35.479 to be next year? Early? Yeah? Hm, Well, lay, let's 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.360 be ahead of everybody here. We'll go around the room 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.840 where we think Jimmy Garoppolo will be next year. I'm 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:51.359 gonna start with Todd Fritz Miami Oder. Okay, that's a 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.960 good guess. It's a lot of qub stuff throwing around. Man, 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.000 there's the showing thing. Doesn't look like it's happening there 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.560 into two, it's time too, all right, splash, all right, 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.920 um seaton O'Connor, Jimmy Garoppolo will be where next year? 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:11.640 You're Houston Texans? Oh? Okay, two spicy choices so far. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.720 Mick eleven so I see him as a bridge quarterback, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:24.480 so he will replace Teddy Bridge Bridgewater in Denver? Okay, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.440 poly where where do you see Jimmy Grove based off 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:34.720 almost no reasoning? The Carolina Panthers based off almost nothing. Well, 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.640 I think everything that we're basing this off of is 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.400 based off nothing, not less than mine. Oh, where is 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:46.119 Jimmy g next year? Yes? How about Washington football team? 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.239 They gotta play somebody? Yeah there, Yes, technically you're supposed 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.320 to play a quarterback. You don't have to. Could have 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.880 Ronnie Brown and it could be the Wildcat. Um, how 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:04.760 about this Jimmy Garoppolo is in San Francisco next year. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:12.560 Thank you, thank you, thank you. Here is Kyle Shanahan, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:17.720 the Niners head coach, after the win last night. Last night. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.000 I think we've taken a lot of this year personally, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.360 so I wanted to say taking us something personally as 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.640 well leads to that. But we were very embarrassed about 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.240 last week in every aspect, and you know, I wish 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.200 we have been a few things this year. I don't 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.679 know if that's what leads to that, but we definitely 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.200 played our best game. I'm all around, okay. The question 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:40.800 was did you take this game personally? I hope you 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.760 take every game personally, Like what you're gonna You're gonna 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.800 coach harder here because why the Rams are getting all 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:54.880 this love, you guys are struggling. I'm not sure I 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.120 understand the context of do you take this personally? You 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.920 guys have owned the Rams. He won five in a 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.160 row against the Rams. Yes, boy, Dan, I forgot to 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.160 mention this, but Sean mcfey, the coach of the Rams, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.240 did not pull up. You could put this one on me. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.160 It's all me, Blame me. He actually went against the 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.960 grain and blame the players. Oh well. He had this 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.880 to say after the game. Robert's a very important player. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.280 You know, you never replace him. It certainly didn't help 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.200 not to have him, But I don't want to use 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.160 that as an excuse. We didn't play well enough, We 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.800 didn't make enough plays. Our best players didn't play up 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:31.960 to their standards. All right, we are best players, okay, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.200 because what I drew up was actually flawless. It was 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.079 it was just perfect. He told him, you really comes 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.360 down to it. Yeah, he told him to catch it. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:39.760 He didn't tell him to drop the ball. I'm sure 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.800 in practice he never told me. He didn't tell Matt 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.240 Stafford to throw it to the Niners. That's on Matt, 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:52.520 that's not on Sean McVeigh. Odell Beckham Junior the Third 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.440 had this to say after his RAMS debut. These moments 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.960 don't divide you, and you know they bring you stronger 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.760 and closer together. And I'm happy to be here. You know, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.240 just over the babe, you'd be able to get in 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.719 the playbook and really try and learn every single thing 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:10.360 possible and always quick. But I'm ready, I'm excited. I'm 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.640 just happy to be here. Yeah, all right, I don't 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.959 expect anything out of him, and if he does give 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.520 you something, great, He's not Robert Woods. Robert Woods is 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.360 far more valuable I think to the Rams than Odell 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:26.200 Beckham Junior is going to be. But von Miller, to me, 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.600 is the one who could be a difference maker because 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.520 I expect more out of von Miller if when he's healthy. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.600 He didn't do anything last night, but that can make 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:39.000 that defense even more formidable. But Odell Beckham, all right, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.600 I mean, people forget the number of injuries he's had 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.360 the last two years. That's tough for any player. But 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.120 do I expect him to come in and light things up? No? 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.120 Do I think he'll have pockets? Yes, I hope that 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.240 he's not blamed for his lack of production second half 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.600 of the season. And plus, you know what's crazy when 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.360 you hear the backstory of Odell Beckham because he wanted 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.400 to go to Green Bay, then he wanted to go 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:13.000 to Kansas City, the Rams Saints, and this is all happening. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.120 It felt like eleventh hour. Now I'm getting this through 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.680 somebody who his team was involved in this and said, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.640 you know, we thought we were getting him and then 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.720 we didn't know and then we were told another team, 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.040 and then it was another team, and then all of 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.080 a sudden, it's like, wait, the Rams. And I think 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.280 that that was what was interesting here. Is he all 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.720 in on the Rams? Did he take the Rams because 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.440 it's La Did he take it because more of the 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.079 business opportunities. He has a house there in the Hollywood Hills. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.000 Did he want to go and spend the second half 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.120 of the season in Green Bay? Did he want to 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.200 go to Kansas City? Did he want to go to 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.880 New Orleans? The importance of the players who were pursuing 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.120 him on the Rams. I don't know if it was 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.960 a slam dunk that he just said, that's where I 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.360 want to go. Now. I know he's been infatuation with 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.720 Sean mcvay's offense for a while, not just this year, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.000 but yeah, I just I wondered that about did he 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.600 really want to go to the Rams? Did it make 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.160 the most sense for him? Did it make the most 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.880 sense football wise? Or was this more of business wise 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.000 that incorporates, you know, the football angle as well. Yeah, mcclub. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.000 Is it it funny that Robert Woods got hurt the 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.280 next day? The Rams would have been much more desperate 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.920 for and probably paid him more. Yeah, I mean you 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:28.920 never could have seen that. I don't think there was 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.440 any hint of Robert woods bere Noah's synder Guard is 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.800 now a Los Angeles Angel. He signed a one year 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:44.800 deal twenty one million dollars. He last pitched in twenty nineteen. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:49.600 He had Tommy John surgery. He's twenty nine years of age. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.839 I think that's that's about it. Is there more to 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.160 the story. The biggest part of this story is really 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.200 us related. Noah synder Guard on social media follows our 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.360 show and yeah, and he sends nice notes all the time. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.560 Now being on the West Coast, you could listen to 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.920 us driving into work, Okay, all right, morning drive numbers 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.760 are I like that? Yeah? I like that? And you 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.360 got to own the quarter hour? Yeah right Seaton, Ye, yes, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.120 Hunt is it Halo? And goodbye to his relevancy and 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:21.040 now that he's an angel, got the angels the Halos. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.720 I mean it's not as good as that was a 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.319 crotch with the catch, No the defensive back. That's kind 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.280 that was kind of a standalone with his undercarriage last night. Oh, 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:33.840 we could ever hear from him ever again, other than 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.319 him sending notes to the show as far as I 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.840 he's okay. I mean he was in our March Madness 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.360 bracket challenge. Like I it's okay. I'm glad that he 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.240 loves the show when he sends notes all the time. Yes, 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:47.040 Paul new Pole. Question, which second best team in a 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:51.240 major market would you most want to play for? Mets, Angels, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.719 white Socks, white tucks are better, but they're from a 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.719 fan interest. Okay, but do you put Florida in there? 0:12:59.920 --> 0:13:03.760 You put Miami and Tampa? Do you put the Miami 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:08.080 Marlins in there? Is a second I'm capping it at Angels, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.240 Mets within the city limits. Okay, yes, our Clippers not 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.960 even they don't even make that poll. Is at the 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.880 different sport. Yeah, but yeah, I see what you're saying though, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.400 Oh okay, just baseball. It's a good lay. All the 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.920 Clippers are in the shadows. Well, let's why don't we 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.200 expand this to all teams? The secondary team in a marketing, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:32.800 you know, the Jets secondary to the Giants. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, Chargers, Rams, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:38.160 yeah yeah, yeah. The Jets are no, no that they're 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.679 not even close to the Giants. Like you, people have 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.880 waited decades to try to get Giant season tickets. Nobody's 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.080 doing that. I don't think with the Jets. Are the 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:52.280 Nets still the secondary team in New York? Yeah, yeah, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.200 I don't. I don't think there's a buzz. You know, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.240 when the Knicks do well, it takes over the city. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.800 The Nets. Nobody cares even for one game. Yes, they 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.400 beat the Hawks one game at the playoffs, we're back. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:09.839 Maybe they storm the streets like you have grown men 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.520 taking their shirts off, Like that's how do you celebrate 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.240 a Knicks playoff win. Let's get naked. We're tied one 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:20.520 one of the first round series against the Hawks. Who yes, 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:25.880 and just screaming about Trey Young's receding hairline. Go yeah, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:31.880 and their playoff hopes were receding after that too. Let's 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.200 take a break. 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Kobe was guarding him and he started just 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:44.720 whistling as if you know, you're really not in my 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.120 stratosphere here, like they're on the court, and he's just 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.800 sort of going load. Dwayne's like, man, he doesn't respect 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.400 me at all. Go to Dan Patrick dot com. You 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.800 can hear that entire interview. He's Dan Shaughnessy the Boston 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.200 Globe and he has a new book. It's called a 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.560 wish it lasted forever. Life with Larry Birds Celtics now 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.520 available online wherever books are sold. Really disappointed in you, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.280 Dan with this book because I wish it could have 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.560 lasted forever. It's a shorter book. Like I breezed through it. 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.480 There were so many great stories and I kind of 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.440 went to the end. I go, damn, you know I 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.560 needed more out of you, Dan. You let me down. Well, 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.320 that's really nice of you, Dana. Thanks for going through it. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.000 And Bill Walton of course named it. And Bill really 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.240 wishes it lasted forever because we know his career could 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.200 have been so much more, but he had this one 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.840 gift at the end of his career, the nineteen eighty 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.320 five eighty six season where Bill Walton comes to Boston. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.840 He got eighty games in that was it. He played 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.800 ten games next year and then he retired, you know, 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.920 his feet, fews and all that stuff. But Bill said, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.520 he said, you know, Amby, that's resource when you write this. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.440 Danny said, this is like, I wish this could have 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.000 lasted forever. Everything was great. You cannot overstate how great 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.160 this was. Hey, this will hop back on the way 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.680 back machine. It's you know, you watch the NBA today 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.560 and I sometimes long for the eighties. I was there 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.720 when Larry and Magic came in and seventy nine kind 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.480 of rescued the league. And then of course Michael comes 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.800 in a eighty four and leading up the Dream Team. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.119 But this was this, This jumped out of me. Dan. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.840 During the pandemic, you know, when we're seeing the ESPN 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.479 Classics and thirty thirty on Celtics Lakers, and and here 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.760 in Boston with no games going on, they're running the 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.720 eighties Classic Celtics and it's all we had. And I 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.720 keep seeing my thirty year old self sitting at the 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.399 table back in the day when they allowed the lowly 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.360 media to sit in those seats at the nail sell 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.440 for five thousand dollars. So we were there and we 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.040 had access that is never going to be replicated. We 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.840 were able to tell the readers and the fans what 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:46.560 these guys were like. It was a very fascinating, magnetic team, talented, Bird, McHale, Parish, DJ, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.320 you know, five Hall of Famers, they went to the 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.880 finals four straight years. They were fun and we lived 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.960 with them, I mean, Dan, you know, hotels, buses, airports, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.359 waiting for bags, flying commercial This was when the reporters 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.439 went to the COVID bubble in twenty twenty, they had 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.720 to sign a waiver saying they would not approach anyone 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.080 if they saw him away from the facility. That's what 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.920 we did all of our best work. I mean, the 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.120 moat has gotten so wide here in Boston. We don't 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.200 know what's going on with Smart and Tatum and Brown 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.760 because nobody can get near them. In those days, we 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.159 could tell you they're mad at Fitch. They don't like 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:20.879 what the coach is doing right now. They need to 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.639 change their Casey Jones bring them on that kind of thing. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.200 It's nobody's fault. It's evolution the way things have gone. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.359 But that was kind of what motivated the book. And 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.840 thank you for perusing through it and getting some of 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.840 those fun stories back in your head. Was it a 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.520 thirty for thirty or a last dance? Could you see 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.920 that possibility? I mean, it's a shorter timeframe with these 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.080 guys and not as successful. But I was wondering if 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.760 there's enough. It feels like, but the stories you tell 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.120 and there's a little more drama, you know, woven in there. 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.879 But do you think there's a last dance Field to 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.400 the Celtics of the eighties. I always do. I mean again, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.240 the personalities were so strong. One thing, because I went 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.600 from that Celtic team, Yeah, they were and one at 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.680 home Dan the last year fifty and one at home. 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.639 And I went to Major League Baseball to the Red 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.520 Sox clubhouse the same year as a BT reporter, and 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.280 it just struck me how different it was the climate 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:12.960 in there. And I got bruce Hurst in the book 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.120 to talk about that, because you know, he almost won 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:16.880 the seventh game of the World Series with those eighty 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.840 six Socks and they were a sour bunch. And he said, 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.040 in general, baseball was a sour bunch. Because bruce Hurst 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.359 knew the Celtics because he was friends with Danny Ames. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.320 They had played Major League Baseball together and against each other. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.600 He would come to practice. He knew McHale, he knew Bird, 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.560 he knew Parish and he said, he said, in our clubhouse, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.800 you know, we harbor personal feelings and the insecurities, and 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.480 we compete against each other to get to the big leagues. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.800 It's kind of ingrained in the culture. He says. Those Celtics, 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.440 they were so secure in their own greatness. There was 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.320 none of this who's getting more touches. They had fun, 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.159 They had fun at practice, competing against each other. They 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.680 knew how great they were, and this all comes out, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.399 you know, the kind of trash talk and you were 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.600 talking about with guys whistling and I mean that's Bird 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.840 walking into the three point contest, the first one ever 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.520 and saying, which one of you guys are going to 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.960 finish second? I mean that's Bird telling the New York 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.360 Knicks trainer he's banking three pointers during journal warmouth before 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.520 a Knicks game, and the trainer said, of Saunders, he said, 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.439 you can't do that in a game. Larry said, if 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.119 you give me five bucks, I will, and then he 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:17.760 banked one in at the end of a game and 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.040 ran down by the bench with his palm out looking 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.359 for his five bucks. I mean, he was pool hustling 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:27.800 during the games. The story about Xavier McDaniel, is that 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.280 true where Larry after a timeout tells x what he's 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.680 gonna do. Yeah, Jackie McMullin tells that one really well, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.440 which is you know, I'm gonna do this, We're gonna 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.080 do this, we wanna do this, And he would do 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.800 all those things I was. There was a game in Portland. 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.480 He was doing that. It was near the end, and 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.320 he said, you better get somebody over here. They were 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.240 getting ready to inbound. They weren't listening. He pointed, and 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.359 then he took the ball. He drained a three, and 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.520 then he pointed again. Coming up, he said, I told 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.119 you what you should have done. That was just you know, 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.000 Quinn Buckler told me that he could. There was a 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.000 game called knockout, you know, just guys shooting around at 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.600 a gym, and Quinn said he could. He could knock 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.080 your ball away from the basket and make his shot 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.359 with the same ball. He was playing basketball and pool 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.240 at the same time. What if social media was around, 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:14.639 I'll tell you it changes a lot, and again not 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.560 in a good way in my view. I mean, there 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.760 was a level of comfort with those guys. I didn't 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.840 make plans let's go to dinner, let's go have drinks, 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.159 but you would bump into each other and it was okay. 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.480 So in fact, one night Larry picked up the tab 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.200