WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: One Step Closer

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<v Speaker 1>Wings Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley,

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<v Speaker 1>and Shannon Gross. We are live. It's Monday, and that

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<v Speaker 1>can only mean one thing. Hanging with the Boys live

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<v Speaker 1>from the s WBC Mortgage living Room in Frisco, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>for another episode of some hard hitting sports journalism. Just kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just us. We're back and we're here to take

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<v Speaker 1>over your airwaves for one hour, maybe more. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>much going on that there's some shows that we come

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<v Speaker 1>on and we struggle to think about what to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about and try to stretch for an hour. There's other

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<v Speaker 1>days where there's so much going on and we're still

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season. We got to talk about there's

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<v Speaker 1>some training camp news that's going on. Kurt's got some

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news about how they're going to handle the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got more DAK talk. Would it be a week

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<v Speaker 1>of the off season without us talking about Dak. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about this roster, what veterans need to

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<v Speaker 1>prove themselves. And this does not happen very often, fellas,

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<v Speaker 1>But I have something to say. I'm gonna save that

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<v Speaker 1>for the end of the show because this is a

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<v Speaker 1>momentous occasion because I very seldom have an opinion or

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<v Speaker 1>something to say, So we'll get to that later. So

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, all you fans, hang in there for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole hour and listen to me say something. How you doing, Fellas,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening? What's up man, fellas? Glad to be good weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Good weekend. I hate when this dude trying to prep

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<v Speaker 1>us or whatever it is that entity show. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all of reaction. The whole show is what do you

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<v Speaker 1>got to tell us? Chimp, Jesse, good to see you, Kurt,

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<v Speaker 1>good to see you, Chris, thanks for setting us up. Hey, Shannon, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to tell us later? Nan, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to Nate, You're gonna have to stay on the

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<v Speaker 1>whole show with us to hear what I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm saving it for the end. But now, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about training camp. I have my

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six Oxnard training camp ball cap on.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the first time I ever went to training

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<v Speaker 1>camp out in California. Was this year? Back in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six. The news came out this week that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys will not be going to Oxnard. Reported I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's still official, but it's being reported

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<v Speaker 1>by several several sources. They will have training camp and

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<v Speaker 1>what it appears to be Frisco. And then Kurt, some

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<v Speaker 1>more news came out right before we came on the

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<v Speaker 1>show about how they're going to handle some of that stuff. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it is official that they can't go anywhere for training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL said they had to stay at their home facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>so they will be in Frisco. And then the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>came out today with the protocols for when players can

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<v Speaker 1>come back to the to the offices or to the

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<v Speaker 1>training facility. And this doesn't necessarily mean training camp. This

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<v Speaker 1>just means ahead of time when they first come back,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be required. The lockers have to be

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<v Speaker 1>six feet apart. They're gonna be every other locker. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to work in smaller groups like the workout areas.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to rotate in. They can't have everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>there at once, and between groups they have to disinfect.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't have in person meetings with large groups. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it has to be smaller groups or otherwise they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on the you zoom call video conference calls, just

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<v Speaker 1>like they have been doing, or they can meet outside,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess and kind of space it out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's gonna be some changes, but it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it could be before the end of the month. They

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<v Speaker 1>might let some of the rookies and veterans come back

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<v Speaker 1>in to the facility to kind of get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>roll and some of the new veterans excuse me, guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Poe and McCoy. Yeah, there's changes coming, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least there's some progress being made. Looks like they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit closer to football. For me, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it because and I make Nate, you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion on this. I like the new approach that

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking because as someone who's been in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, and you understand that is the filthiest place

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<v Speaker 1>on earth. An NFL locker room. NFL locker room is

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<v Speaker 1>a filthy, filthy place. And when you tart talking about

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<v Speaker 1>spreading different type of disease, like when when the fluid

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<v Speaker 1>hits the locker room, when infections hit the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>it hits it hard because you're in so much close proximity.

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<v Speaker 1>You're und I guess the fat guys getting fluid. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always you look whippier, I guess because y'all, y'all have

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<v Speaker 1>that insulated, You got those thick layers you gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>to to get to the immut and system, gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground. But but but but yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think this is the right approach. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're taking the necessary proper steps to getting us

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<v Speaker 1>back to what we want, because the last thing we

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<v Speaker 1>want is to happen is is we rush into this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I do believe that that second wave is

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<v Speaker 1>hiding around the corner, and you get a locker room

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<v Speaker 1>full of people who are you know, asymptomatic, and but

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<v Speaker 1>they have it, and now that ultimately will shut down

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<v Speaker 1>facilities again and put you in a very uncomfortable situation

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<v Speaker 1>on trying to get the ball rolling. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>you you measure twice and cut once on the front

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<v Speaker 1>end and hopes that you're able to prevent uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>prevent an infection happened in your locker room. Unfortunately, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have a pretty great setup. Obviously, they've got a

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<v Speaker 1>big locker room, they've got extra locker rooms in that

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<v Speaker 1>fort center. They can spread guys around it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>some teams are gonna have a little problem getting ninety

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<v Speaker 1>guys in there comfortably. So yeah, it's nice. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>to be a downless cowboy, that's for sure. I'd tell

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<v Speaker 1>you right here, fellas, Uh, what I said off air,

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<v Speaker 1>would not say on air. So you're right, Jesse. Then again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're going along with it, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use the word that I use before where to go, Jesse?

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot argue that point. As as former players, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you think this? Does this help them stay here? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>In Frisco for the first time? You know, did it

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<v Speaker 1>help you guys when you went somewhere for camp? As

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to Jesse, you have you played on teams that

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<v Speaker 1>have stayed kind of in their home area before. Outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys, Yeah, and the Patriots, they stayed new

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<v Speaker 1>practice every day. I let the same place you practice

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<v Speaker 1>at during the regular season, it's the same place you

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<v Speaker 1>practice at during training camp. Um, so you stay, you

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<v Speaker 1>stay right there. I was with the Cincinnati Bengals where

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<v Speaker 1>you went to Georgetown, Kentucky and and did training camp there. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the different things at yeah, yeah, yeah, like we ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play to watch this. The thing about the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>is the Cowboys like to make it I mean a spectacle.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was a part of the Cowboys where

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<v Speaker 1>we did training camp in three different places. One year

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<v Speaker 1>we had we had the opportunity to have the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame Game, and I remember we started training camp

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<v Speaker 1>in San Antonio, Texas. After a couple of weeks in

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio, Texas, we then flew to oxtion Ard and

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<v Speaker 1>had practices in oxtion Ard where we played some West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast preseason games, and then we had the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame game, which then took us took us back to

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas for about a week or so to have practice

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas to get ready to go to the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame game. So I was there. We bounced around

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<v Speaker 1>in three different locations and just I mean the headache

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<v Speaker 1>of that of just traveling all this from places. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this may actually work. Um, this may be something

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<v Speaker 1>that actually may work. They have the Omni Hotel that

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<v Speaker 1>sits right there. Um, so if you're trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get that hotel some business in some money, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put the players and stuff right there. That way they

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<v Speaker 1>can come right to the facility. Without having to do

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<v Speaker 1>much traveling. Did the Patriots even though they had training

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<v Speaker 1>camp at their home place? Did they How did all

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<v Speaker 1>the players come together in one hotel? Did they just

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<v Speaker 1>stay home? Now, we all were in one hotel. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we all we all were in one hotel. They had

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<v Speaker 1>hotel checks and all that kind of stuff. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure guys like Tom Brady and such. After a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of days and after hour they were like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going home, but we all stayed in. We all stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in the same hotel. I'm gonna telling Jo what this

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<v Speaker 1>thing was supposed to do many many years ago was

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<v Speaker 1>get you away from the family, get you together your bond.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be you'd be up on the one calls, one

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<v Speaker 1>one fight. But with the day's as travel, the use

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<v Speaker 1>of phones, and the way you can do what we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing here, your family never is never just a just

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<v Speaker 1>a dollarway of a series call away series called Shannon's Girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Please thank you, so you already you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So now whole headphone up, Nate, did your phone I

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<v Speaker 1>actually called Shannon's girlfriend when you told Syria to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta make sure I don't number she calls Mama

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<v Speaker 1>gross though. Okay, but I'll be honest with you. What

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<v Speaker 1>it is designed to do when you have traveled away

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<v Speaker 1>was mainly bring the guys together and be up under

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<v Speaker 1>one one deal, trying to get yourself prepared for football.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jesse, you know, like the rest of you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys training camp probably at about that ten

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<v Speaker 1>to one became what you said, Jesse, it's about making

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<v Speaker 1>money along with get your mind right, bill in your brand.

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<v Speaker 1>So but it's a good thing. Some players can handle

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<v Speaker 1>it the big stage. Some players can't, you know. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, for I think, for what has happened this pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be together with the new guys, old guys,

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<v Speaker 1>new coaches, and they need to be in one spot,

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<v Speaker 1>not worrying about moving, worrying about making this team and

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<v Speaker 1>making it better. So you think that with all the

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<v Speaker 1>other changes going on, this change of training camp, this

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<v Speaker 1>might be a good thing. Man, Oh, it's a benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nowhere. It's not a benefit. Can you imagine going

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<v Speaker 1>to California which is a hot spot, and everybody's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there like, man, should we walk out our doll? You know, no, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you stay right here and Frisco tell you the else

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<v Speaker 1>is happy. Yeah, I know, Mike, I know Mike mccordney,

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<v Speaker 1>Crewe is happy. They don't have the load. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the loads. They don't have to load the trucks

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<v Speaker 1>up with wings and workout stuff and football equipment oncount

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, man, we get to stay right here there there.

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<v Speaker 1>Their summer has just gotten a lot better because Mike

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<v Speaker 1>mccordy and Bucket all those guys. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>load those truckers up and drive halfway across America. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those of you that don't know, they literally

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<v Speaker 1>pack up the entire weight room, the weights, the bitches,

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<v Speaker 1>the rats, the bars, like everything. They pack them up

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen wheeler tractor trailers and ship them to California

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<v Speaker 1>for camp. And then they pack it all back up

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<v Speaker 1>and send it back on top of all the pads

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<v Speaker 1>to take the gatorade, you know, all the other equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>every uniform for every weather, everything, every weather. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the they do it all. Man, It is a it

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<v Speaker 1>is a monumental beaty. The weeks leading up the training,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, I mean they have they have these I

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<v Speaker 1>guess their boxes they're probably what Kurt six feet six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half feet tall, probably four feet square, and

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<v Speaker 1>they cram them full of all the stuff and send

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<v Speaker 1>it out there. And then they have to take all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff loaded up on the planes, take it to

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame game, ship it back for practice,

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<v Speaker 1>ship it to the next preseason game, ship it back

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<v Speaker 1>for practice, ship it to the next preseason game, back

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<v Speaker 1>to practice, and then when we break camp. The day

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<v Speaker 1>they break camp, they load it all back into eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>wheelers overnight, and then the eighteen wheelers come back while

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<v Speaker 1>we're flying back to go for that that usually that

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<v Speaker 1>third and fourth preseason game, to come back home, ship

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<v Speaker 1>it all back along with all of our luggage. All

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<v Speaker 1>the players, I mean, it is a those guys, they

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<v Speaker 1>earn their money that you know what's amazing about all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. They do this for all of the players,

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<v Speaker 1>but not only for all of the players. They do

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<v Speaker 1>it all of the staff, and for mister Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>his party, for Shannon and his If you they give

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<v Speaker 1>you shirts, they give you they give you a pants,

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<v Speaker 1>they give you shoes. They give it to everybody. If

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<v Speaker 1>you carry a cowboy name. Even when I used to

0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.880
<v Speaker 1>go out there they used to have a little, a

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<v Speaker 1>little thing for me, a little, a little package for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can take that over there and get it

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<v Speaker 1>washed daily. They're washing these guys clothes, not not they're

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<v Speaker 1>unders and all of that, but the clothes that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to wear, their uniform, they wash them daily daily.

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<v Speaker 1>So these guys never stop moving. They don't go to lunch,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't go to breakfast. They just continue to move.

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<v Speaker 1>So they do a great job. Any concern about now

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<v Speaker 1>and having a training camp in that Texas heat or

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<v Speaker 1>indoors on the turf, nah nah nah, I mean make

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<v Speaker 1>them tough, you know what, you know what, Jesse, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you you you making have a different opinion. But

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are smart and how they work their players. But

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<v Speaker 1>I asked a guy, you know, I told a guy

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<v Speaker 1>one time, I got the man so hard out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand what a new era, a new way of

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<v Speaker 1>doing things that your body it's not used to being

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<v Speaker 1>beat on at any time. But don't tell me you

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<v Speaker 1>practicing pads, then you out of pads and you're practicing paths.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you out of pads, then you off and you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about you tired. What are you doing? Really? What

0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.160
<v Speaker 1>are you doing. You walk through in the morning, you hit,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting pads, maybe fifteen twenty minutes that afternoon. Next day

0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you're walking through again. Then you next time you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the So you mean to tell me watching film,

0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just really then broke you down because that's all

0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>they do. So I'm so hey, come on, man, hey, Jesse, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>is this late version of when I was a kid

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<v Speaker 1>I used to watch Sharon You did not hear me say,

0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you did not hear me? No, I do not. I

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<v Speaker 1>do not buy into how it was for us, because

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<v Speaker 1>your body is not designed to be hit on. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're only hitting maybe thirty minutes in a practice. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you're off. You know, you hit, you walk through, you hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and it maybe thirty forty minutes, and then you're off, off,

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<v Speaker 1>you off for twenty four hours. But see, it don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is your body is not designed. You

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<v Speaker 1>get what I'm saying. I'm not going there because like

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<v Speaker 1>I tempt you, like I tell the older guys, stop man,

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<v Speaker 1>because my story is not it's not that great compared

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<v Speaker 1>to Drew, to Drew Pierson, I mean the Preston Pearson.

0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.280
<v Speaker 1>My story is not that great to Bob Lily to

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<v Speaker 1>where these guys had two and three hour practices. No water.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is a little bit different, but our bodies are

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<v Speaker 1>not designed to be beat on. But don't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>you tire because you had a couple of practices that

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<v Speaker 1>equip maybe forty five minutes of hiddie. That's all I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say, be the best you can be. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also think, you know, the strategic part about coaching

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<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, they foreshadow what the what is

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<v Speaker 1>the weather going to look like, what do we need?

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<v Speaker 1>How are things going to work out? And they can

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<v Speaker 1>look at it and go, hey, you know what, on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only going to be eighty five degrees, let's practice outside.

0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Or hey, let's do an early morning practice so we

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<v Speaker 1>can get outside. Maybe it's a little bit of humidity,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's get outside on the grass. Let's get outside

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<v Speaker 1>and the elements a little bit, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the whole. But Friday it's going to be one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and five, so we'll move them inside. Because I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you. You we don't play as a

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<v Speaker 1>home team. We don't play in the elements, right we

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<v Speaker 1>have we have the luxury of being in a billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar indoor facility with teams like New England who Bill Belichick,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't matter what was happening. You practiced outside and

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<v Speaker 1>they had an indoor facility, rain, sleeps, snow below zero

0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.440
<v Speaker 1>because because Bill Buchick mindset was, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>play indoors on Sunday. You're playing outdoors at home on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So why wouldn't you practicing what you're going to play

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<v Speaker 1>in on Sunday. It's hard to get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>work done when you're talking about that blazing heat. Guys

0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.840
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden start fatiguing faster. They need ivs guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And when that heat get on your back

0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and you got that equipment on, this haze comes over

0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you and you you spend more time correcting and repeating

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<v Speaker 1>than you do actually getting good, solid working. So I

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<v Speaker 1>see why sometimes coaches go inside. We had we had

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<v Speaker 1>we had the fiasco we had last year where the

0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were going to play in a way game and

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<v Speaker 1>an outdoor stadium, and the elements that we were having

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<v Speaker 1>here in Dallas was matching the element that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to go see in that game

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, but that coaching staff decided to go indoors

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and we saw how that played out in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the strategic part about coaching, knowing your players,

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<v Speaker 1>foreshadowing what the weather may look like and how it

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<v Speaker 1>can you can get a combination of both, because you

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<v Speaker 1>do need to go outside a little bit and get

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<v Speaker 1>some of that condition again. You know, have that sun

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<v Speaker 1>on your back a little bit that that helps with conditioning,

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<v Speaker 1>That helps with a little bit of the mental toughness

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<v Speaker 1>of it all, and you know, just getting being able

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<v Speaker 1>to work through those things as you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>in the game because you're gonna go to some places

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<v Speaker 1>where you're not going to be used to the elements

0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:33.760
<v Speaker 1>we have. We have a couple of games we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>December game in Baltimore. Guess what, right off the water,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be cold, and if you're not conditioned

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<v Speaker 1>for that, then that sometimes can be a distraction to

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<v Speaker 1>you mentally. So you got to be able to propare yourself.

0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:50.240
<v Speaker 1>That rat pre you able to prepare yourself mentally effically.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I think the thing with this coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna say I hope that this coaching

0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.600
<v Speaker 1>staff with Mike McCarthy at the helm, will do the

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<v Speaker 1>right things and kind of mixing and matching being outside

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<v Speaker 1>being inside, And of course we're talking about the Dallas Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>So what does that mean. That mean that it's still

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a spectacle. And so they're going to

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.320
<v Speaker 1>have twelve thousand people on the inside like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>high school football game or boxing match inside the Ford Center.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna have some practices and there's some live

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<v Speaker 1>practices where you're going to have all the fans come

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<v Speaker 1>in there. You're gonna have chili to come out at

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<v Speaker 1>the halftime of the game, of the scrimmage, or whatever

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it may be. Because it is the Dallas Cowboys and

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<v Speaker 1>it is a show, and it will be a show

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what you try to make it out to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And over the was it current? Over the over the

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend or late last week? I think the

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<v Speaker 1>governor added here in Texas said that all stadiums and

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<v Speaker 1>arenas will be able to operate capacity. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I read that right? Yeah? Yeah, that's what he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying so far. But you know what the NFL said,

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.160
<v Speaker 1>They're proceeding like there's gonna be full season with full stadiums.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully we'll get to that point. But the governor,

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<v Speaker 1>governor having to be on page by time they get there,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be with it. We've we've talked about the young

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<v Speaker 1>guys and with you know, everybody getting a late start,

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<v Speaker 1>that this may help the young guys kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>a be on more of a level playing field with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the veterans. Um, who are some guys that

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<v Speaker 1>come to mind on this team, Um, that are that

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at that are gonna be bubble guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are really gonna have to get in there and compete

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<v Speaker 1>this year. There are any guys that come to mind

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<v Speaker 1>for you, guys that that have been on this team

0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 1>for a year or two, maybe three, that every veteran

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that don't have a guarantee contract. But yes, what happened

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.639
<v Speaker 1>to Noah Brown? Is Noel browns to the bar of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys? What is he? Then? This this guy they

0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about so much, how much they love them. Is

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.480
<v Speaker 1>his physicality and how was pig and strong? And what

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:03.480
<v Speaker 1>was Noah Brown? This is the guy who I'm looking

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.119
<v Speaker 1>if Maurah Brown is still on this football team in

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 1>New York soon because he can block. Well, it was

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown. I want I want to see one Noah

0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Brown's got They talked, they talked him up so much

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<v Speaker 1>as a receiver. I want to see where he's where

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>he's at. I've always had this, I've always I've had

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<v Speaker 1>this question with this team. It seems like there's always

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. They always have one or two of these

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:34.080
<v Speaker 1>guys that never gets on the playing field. That usually

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.119
<v Speaker 1>usually there's injuries involved where they're you know, there's a

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>lingering issue, or there's something where they can't quite get

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>over the hump, they can't quite get on the field.

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.959
<v Speaker 1>But they keep these guys around. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>ever since I've been here, they've they've had those one

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<v Speaker 1>or two of those guys that they just that seems

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.399
<v Speaker 1>to stay on this team. Is that Is it like

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that on every team where they have them at Cathain

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.680
<v Speaker 1>or is it just this team? Nah? Nah No, how

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>most teams want guys who can actually go out there

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and do something. Yeah, yeah nah bro Nah No, Sorry,

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>we need the social distance. I suffered them cash real quick,

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 1>real Jesse, Kurt Shannon, don't I mean? And our fans

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>were latch on to these nobodies with latch on too,

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 1>these nobodies that cannot help this team win. And where

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>are such as such the same place he's been waiting on?

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<v Speaker 1>Training camp. That's when they get all the fame and

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>training camp, which does not win games? Come home? Man?

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Who why why is that? Why is that? I don't

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Is there a reason for that? Is it? People get excited? Guy? Yeah,

0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 1>people get excited about somebody new, Like who was your

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.680
<v Speaker 1>last the receiver Javan or something like that. I mean

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>there's always somebody in training camp. But everybody's oh, this

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be the next Tony Roman, the next diamond

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>in the rough they find. But yeah, they they hang

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>their hat on that word potential. Oh yeah, so much potential. Man.

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 1>He could be he could be the next, he could

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>be the next. And then you know some people just

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>never live up to that potential, man and play some ball. Yeah,

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's getting closed. Ball is going to happen. I

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 1>tell I've been I've been telling everyone for People would

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>ask me, hey, what do you think you think NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have a season, And I'm like, go

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>google how much the NFL generates in revenue. When you

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the gross national product that's larger than

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:49.199
<v Speaker 1>some countries. They are going to have an NFL season.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what that looks like, if there's fans in the

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:53.719
<v Speaker 1>seats or whatever, I don't know what that looks like.

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 1>But they will. They will find a way to play football,

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 1>because there's no way that you're not going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a season when you're talking about that much money involved.

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>There's just let me ask you this here, Shannon, let

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this. He a serious question. Oh, I

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>don't like serious question. What's you're gonna tell us at

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the end of the show? Man share with us? You know,

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what? Nate for me to be able to

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I'm gonna tell you at the end

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 1>of the show. We have to take two breaks. We

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>have to take two breaks, So I'm gonna try to

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to get me to tell you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit quicker than I was planning on it by

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<v Speaker 1>taking the first break now and then we can come back. Cool,

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about da Michael Irvin had some interesting comments.

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what you guys have to think

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>about that. He said that they've been getting back at

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>a at a discounted rate the last few years, so

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>it's time to go ahead and just pay him back.

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Pay Um. We could talk about there you go. You

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>could talk about Marcus Share, Marcus Marcus ware had some

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>It's on Alten Smith, Tank and Randy Gregory and this defense.

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And then I have something to say when we come

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>back on Hanging with the Boys the Cowboys Way, we're

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>thanksgiving me and spending the day with one hundred thousand

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of your closest family and friends to watch the game live.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Or sixteen Hall of Famers and five championships show us

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>what success looks like. Where we're all defined by one

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>single thing, the star, where we as fans have the

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>power to keep their tradition going. Bank of America is

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<v Speaker 1>proud to be the official bank of the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty seconds in the show left. Oh fellas Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 1>It we cannot stop talking about Dak Prescott. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like every week there's some other comments, some new comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's going on now, it's Michael Irvin chiming in Kurt.

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael had some things to say. I believe it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>What did Michael have to say about Dak in his situation. Well,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>he basically said, paying the money, you know, he said,

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>he's he's deserving of being the highest paid quarterback right now.

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I won't last long once myhomes was signed. But and

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>he said that Cowboys have been so fortunate and they've

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>got four years out of him for you know, minimal pay,

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>far far less than what he's worth. So it's now

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it's time to you know, pay them in I guess.

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So he'll get paid. It's just some matter of when

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they can work this out. And you had a so

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>there was a mail back question that you sent me

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>that's really kind of interesting and I never thought of

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it this way. Go into that a little bit. Yeah,

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>So the sticking point seems to be that, you know,

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Dak wants a four year deal so he can get

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the open market again quicker, and the Cowboys are pushing

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:27.479
<v Speaker 1>more for five and so, but is he hurting himself

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in the long run perhaps because say he plays under

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>this franchise tag and then the Cowboys next year, Well,

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe they do sign him for four they've wound up

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>getting him five years regardless, and they've had to pay

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>him less that first year. I mean, in some ways

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, you know, is it like the lottery? You

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>never asked for the deferred payments for the lottery. You

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>want the lump sum right now. You want as much

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.719
<v Speaker 1>money as you can get right now. Is he I

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>understand he's betting on himself and he's hoping for a

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>big payday. But the other the flip side of that

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>coin is is he leaving money on the ta able

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>now that you know he may not get down the road? No?

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I think go ahead day. I was just

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna say it, and I think in the mail back

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>question it was a good point. If he's wanting a

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>four year deal and the Cowboys are wanting a five

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>year deal, if you take the tag this year and

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<v Speaker 1>play under that next year, does that four year deal

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>become a three year deal because you're delaying it a year?

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Or is it a four year deal again on the

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>table that actually winds up being five because you're getting

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>tagged this year? You push, you push back your open

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>market anyway, you know, right, I don't think he loses

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the money. I think. I think if he if he's

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>franchised this year, I think how he makes that money up.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>If he's like, well he's gonna play for less well

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>next year. If after a good a deal done, the

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>prices went up because Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson have

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>gotten their deals, and if for any reason he takes

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>this team to an NFC Championship game or something like that,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was, price goes up even more. So he's

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>going he's gonna eventually get that. And then he may

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>play hardball and say no, now I just want a

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>three year deal. I want a three year deal at

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a much higher rate than was before. But I think

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the money part of this thing, whether it's franchise year

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>this year and the four year deal after that or

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>four year deal this year, and how they handle it

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>after that, the money part. He's going to get his payday, like,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he's going to get that money one way or another,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>by hook or by cook, and only has to do

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>is keep playing the way that he's been playing. And

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>this team continues to progress and we think that they

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>can do what they're supposed to do with the new

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff. I think it's it's it's almost delayed punishment,

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.719
<v Speaker 1>pocketbook punishment for the Cowboys. It's either either do it

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>now or you're gonna have to do it later when

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's going to cost you more. Because if you're believing

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that this team can do some powerful things with him

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>at the helm and this coaching staff, that means that

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>means now he's going to add to his resume another

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>forty five hundred to five thousand yards season, another twenty

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>five plus touchdown type season. And if he then carries

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>his team deeper into the playoffs than he has in

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>any of his previous seasons, well, now all of you've done.

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Now I'll come back to the table and I go, well,

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>now you gotta pay me more because I've done this,

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and oh, by the way, the market has changed again.

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's That's that Russian roulette chicken game that you're playing.

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Is that if he continues on his trajectory again this year.

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>This year he broked all of his personal records, more touchdowns,

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>more yards, more completions, more, all that kind of stuff.

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>If he does that again next year, or even kind

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of you know, does the same thing equivalent to what

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>he did this year next year and they go deeper

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs. I'm back at the table again, and

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, not a number goes up again, because you

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>had a chance to give me less money last year

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and before the market had changed, and before I took

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>our team to the divisional championship or you know, you know,

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>divisional championship, a super Bowl or whatever it may be.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Now you gotta pay me more because of those things.

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is just right here is He's not

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>missing nothing. Okay. He came into the league a fourth

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>round pick. Everybody because everybody just wants to be greedy.

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>He said, He's been sensible in his own mind, saying, okay,

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>thirty one point four million dollars, Okay, is that not

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money? So so what if they if

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the if they if the cap moves back, So what

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>if if Deshan Watson don't sign, It's still gonna go

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to thirty nine million next year And we'll be having

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the same conversation if this kid is made up in

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>his mind with his representatives that I am good. Well, Matt, Now,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we as fans and as analysts had that right to

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>speculating and play the you know, the what if game.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>But the what if game is similar. If we have

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to start at thirty one point four million dollars, he's

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>not good at that? Can you right now? Vast you

0:33:55.640 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>five guys even we split this up five ways account

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and Chris Bean, will we not be all right for

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the rest of our line? Yeah? Where do I sign? Yeah?

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, uh, I tried all of this. All

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:18.399
<v Speaker 1>of this benefits the Dallas Cowboys. If they can get

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>him signed, that is good. See, that's that's if you

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>ever put in your mind and thinks that, man, that

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>is good. He's okay. He just gave a million dollars

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to to to retrain a million dollars to a fourth

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>round pick. Man. I could never give a million dollars, man,

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 1>But he gave a million dollars so to the police

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.439
<v Speaker 1>force to retrain their people. Think now, and he ain't

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>even signed that one older of that thirty one million dollars,

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>He ain't touched it. Think about it now, Well, I

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm wondering again, is it he's obviously betting

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>on himself. And that's awesome. I think that's great. But

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>you look at We'll take Andy Dalton for example. I mean,

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>he had his rookie deal age twenty seventh season, which

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Dak is entering his age twenty seventh season. He signed

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>a big contract. I think it was like ninety million

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars at the time. It wasn't a top ten contract,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>but it was like ninety million dollars I think six years.

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>He signed a long term deal, so he got through that.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Now he's on that third contract. Now he's where Dak

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 1>wants to be in five years. This is where Andy

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Dalton is now. He winds up signing a three million

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>dollars deal to be a backup. You know, Obviously his gamble,

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 1>if you want to call it, that didn't pay off,

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's maybe the risk is Dak is

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>betting on himself. But you know he got he got

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>ninety million dollars. An I'm saying obviously paid off for him.

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.919
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna pay off for Dak. But Dak's looking forward

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to that third contract. No. See, that's that's where we

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that's you don't think here landing a head at third contract. No, No,

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>what Dak is planning for is to get this contract.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>He just wants to make sure he is comfortable. See,

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>in our minds, we were we were in our minds,

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>we were projecting oh Man to the third contract. No,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>what Dak is saying is I want a four year

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>deal now, right, So so if he'll make more money,

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>thing gets a five year deal. Hi, he'll make the

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>money now if he gets a five year deal. No, No,

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>he'll make more money if he gets a four year

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>deal because he's betting on the third contract and don't

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>on this contract. He's betting on this contract. He is saying,

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>give me a four year deal right right now? Right?

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, see this is saying this. This is the

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>only this is the only thing that's that's that's messed

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>up about this. If he gets injured, that's the only thing.

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>But he's well, he's trying to get is this contract.

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 1>That's what he's trying to get. See we want to say, Okay,

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to get he want to re up with

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>everybody else when whenever, when Rogers come up, when this

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>guy come up, when this guy, well he the guys

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that he's gonna be dealing with, Deshaun Watson and the

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Kenny Casey, they're gonna get five year deals because they're

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna get these contracts done before the season over with,

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So he's still not gonna be coming up with them,

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be coming up behind them before them excused him.

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>So what Dark is trying to do if you can

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>lock him Whitney here, he's trying to get this contract

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>done and he walked four years. Yeah, but I'm I know,

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I know he wants four years now, but why wouldn't

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>he if he wants to paint they now, why wouldn't

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>he take five years and more money? But black white?

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>He can't take four years and get and get all

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>his money. Now, see, I see you don't know what

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this man has asked for. Maybe Jared him say we

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>would give you five years and we would give you

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven per year, and this man may say, nah,

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I want four years for thirty seven right now? Ye

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>see that's we don't know what's happening. And unless you

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>got an inside scoop now to share with us, Kurt,

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you got sorry. Okay. We keep hearing that mister Jones

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 1>and his party wants to do a five year deal

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 1>so to help the cap, they'll know where they're at

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and they can project. See everybody's talking about what Dak's

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to do. What is mister Jones and his group

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to do. They're trying to stabilize and project where

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>they need to be. That you could do what you

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>need to do. But I need four years right now

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>at this amount. We don't know that amount. He could

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>be asking for forty a year. You don't know, true,

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what I get what you're saying. Kurt,

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And and for Andy, I think he he gambled on

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.919
<v Speaker 1>himself and loss. I mean he's he thought he thought

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>staying he thought thing in Cincinnati and with that or

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that lineup and that coaching staff, and I mean he

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>had some good players around him. He had aj Green,

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>he had them, he had the Titan running back and forth,

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the tighting. He got hurt. So he thought that there

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.439
<v Speaker 1>were some pieces in there, and you know that place

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>where he drafted him at. I think I think Dak

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is seeing the same thing. I think Dak is seeing

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that man, I got a really good team.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>But I also understand that if I can get back

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>to the table, because honestly, in a four year deal, right,

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>if he signs a four year deal in essence, in essence,

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>he could come back to the table in three in Essex.

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>He can come back to the table in three because

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>if in that first three years he does something monumental

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>like win a super Bowl, when I get to year three,

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, you know what, I've given you a super

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Bowl and now I kind of don't even want to

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 1>get to your floor anymore. Let's let's reegrotiate this thing

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>before I even get to year fourth. They were but

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>mister Jones and Steven will come to him because they said, oh,

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.240
<v Speaker 1>let's don't wait. We screwed this up the last time

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>because they had a contract that was ready to be

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>signed last year and and it got out of and

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it got kind of and they and dact them forced

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the hand and they kind of just went went solid

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>on them, so they that if that thing happened, But

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>this is, this is the deal is we can project

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and we can do whatever we want. The bottom line

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>is that he is trying to secure this contract and

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>when next year comes, he's gonna be trying to steal

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>if they don't, if they don't they let him play

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>through this tag, he gonna be trying to secure this

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>contract that you don't have to You don't have to

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>worry about a third contract if but you have to

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 1>worry about that sounds like a lot of people, A

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't. Have you heard Dak people say that?

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard Dad say that? We just only people

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that we've known that have said something is Missus Jones

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and his party. So, but were speculate? Okay? The only

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that most of us do know where eighty percent

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>certainly is this kid want four years? So now we're

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>tagging on everything else. We're okay, he want why, Well

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>let me I'm assume this, and I don't assume that.

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that that trying to get these four years.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm assuming, right, Kurt? I love you like

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>your hat looking good? You look at Jimmy, You look

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>at Jimmy Johnson that you see that just out of

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>as sticking up? Yeah? Hey what a minute? I like

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I like to debate, though, Kurts, that's real, sweet babe.

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you guys think? I know

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>none of us have any kind of inside you dog

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>going on thing like that. That's mine. Sorry, I know

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>none of us, even your dog agree. What what is

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>y'all's gut feeling? Do y'all think he's gonna wind up

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>getting tagged, or do you think as this thing gets

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like so many times with the Cowboys, he gets down

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to hey, gets down to the wire, they finally get

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to the table and they come up with the deal.

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>What is y'all's gut feeling? You think this thing will

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>get done? Or do you think that plays under the

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>tag this season? I think it gets done. How do two?

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it will? Hey, four years our tag? Baby?

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>That fifth year is so that fifth year is so

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>over the top. Didn't like, bro, that's the that's the

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the messes up. That fifth year is so over

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the top. But we know how that go. If that

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.240
<v Speaker 1>fifth year is so over the top, he's never getting

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>to that fifth year, like even in the non't come

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>back out that Like they're gonna give him that fifth

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>year and that money gonna be so large. Think like,

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>ain't away in the world. We we're gonna have to

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>redo this dude. But that's what I'm saying. You got

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 1>to knock these dudes socks off. So what you think, Nate,

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.959
<v Speaker 1>is it gonna get done or nah, man, they're gonna

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>tag him up for the rest of the year. I

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>mean that tag is easy to continue to tag once

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you tag. It's easy to continue to tag you. And

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I keep saying to myself, this dude is a fourth

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>round pick who's all of a sudden, less than three

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in less than four years, is considered a top depending

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>on who you're talking to, a top ten quarterback. If

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you go through the top ten quarterbacks, you're gonna put

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that somewhere real close to that. So now you went

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:40.240
<v Speaker 1>from a fourth round pick who's making millions of dollars

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>off the field. So the same thing that everybody wanted

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>him to take less for is what he relying on.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Now He's supplemented everything right now, like, hey man, I

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>just made five plant five meal off off off this

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>thing I just did this year. So the same thing

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that everybody wanted him to take less from he is

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.919
<v Speaker 1>using so he can go fun. So I'm telling you, Kurt,

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you. You're looking good. Baby. Hey, I

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>just hey. I want him I want him to I

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>want him to bet on himself. I want him to

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>win the Super Bowl. I want him to earn that

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>big third contract. I don't want him to wind up

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like Alex Smith and you know here are yeah, but

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you have thirty one beans, baby, you know, but he

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 1>could have had, He could have had thirty seven, th forty.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>You know whatever, Hey, brother, I'm tell you whatever they're

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to do is gonna lord his cap here. So

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it ain't that they trying to go hire and and

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the thing that is that that is amazing about all

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>this man gives us good clean conversation. Yes it does.

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 1>We're back talking about da. We're back talking about Dak

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and Dak father saying thank you, thank you, Nate, thank you.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that ESPN story came out this morning?

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>They they did a mock draft using every player in

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, so it could be Tom Brady or it

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:05.800
<v Speaker 1>could be Joe Burrows. Everybody's available. They pick Dak ninth overall.

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Wow you think that? And the more they take Dak

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the more the more Dak is saying thank you. And

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.919
<v Speaker 1>it's aged Jared. Did you see that? Jared Like, yeah,

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we saw that. But we're sticking without five years. Stephen,

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>get the phone, So Stephen is the one years. Hey,

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>do you think if Dak won a Super Bowl he

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>would have a contract sitting on the table at the

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>after partner man, this is the Cowboys, Yes, sir, absolutely,

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>he'd have a contract and I'm blank check write your

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:43.439
<v Speaker 1>number in there. Championship to this franchise. Right now, I'm

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 1>telling you this, you can take Dallas and just take

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.479
<v Speaker 1>it off of the map because it's gonna it's gonna

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>be out of this world if that happens. I'm telling

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>commercial with missus back in David, Missus Jones to be

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 1>doing flips and Breakdas and you get better, bro height fellas.

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's take our last break, Nate. I'm gonna tell you,

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:13.319
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<v Speaker 1>you guys should be very proud of me. I very

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted the fans to feel like they were just

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<v Speaker 1>or kicking it in the living room or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking sports. There's very little, if any prep

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<v Speaker 1>If there's any preparation, that's Kurt send to me a

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<v Speaker 1>thing as in life. You don't have to agree with everybody,

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.840
<v Speaker 1>but you know, respect people. And with the things that

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>have been going on the last you know, a couple

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of weeks in the world, and we kind of brushed

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 1>on it a little bit and kind of didn't talk

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>about it a whole lot. Last Monday, and for some reason,

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>everything that's going on in the country has really really

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>been weighing on me for the last week. I don't

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>know if it's if it's guilt, I don't know, if

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it's if it's just helplessness, I don't it's anger, I know.

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>If it's anger, I don't know, if it's because I'm

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm soon we'll be bringing a son into this world.

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>But it really, it's really bothered me all week. And

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>then after the show on Monday, I called Jesse and

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I called Jesse as a friend. I called Jesse as

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>me being a white man in America calling an African

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:44.040
<v Speaker 1>American man in America, and I just like a lot

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>of you have probably done this last week. I just

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know, Hey, as a white man, what can

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I do? And Jesse and I talked for a while,

0:51:53.120 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think, as a white man, you I'll speak

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>for myself. This is a very uncomfortable topic. This is

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a very hard topic to talk about because I don't

0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is my fight. I don't feel like, hey,

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:13.879
<v Speaker 1>I should pick up this cause because I will never

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>understand what it's like to be pulled over in my

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.439
<v Speaker 1>car because I fit a description. I will never know

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to job through a neighborhood. I jobbed

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and job through a neighborhood and have

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>people looking out the window or walk inside when I

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>go by. I'll never know what it's like when my

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>son's born, to not be accepted into a school, or

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>have to work harder to be accepted into that school

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.919
<v Speaker 1>because the color of his skin. I don't understand that.

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's hard for me to talk about that because

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 1>it's very uncomfortable. And after talking to Jesse, I talked

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to a lot a lot of people this past week

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of all different ages, of all different occupations, and I

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 1>just talked in the one common and thread with all

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 1>of this was as a white man in America right now,

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I need to speak up. I need to speak up

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and say I'm tired of this, Like these are my friends,

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.319
<v Speaker 1>these are my co workers, these are people that I

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 1>care about. And I never realized that that's important. And

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking to people and starting those uncomfortable conversations,

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot this week. There are a lot

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 1>of things that I learned I didn't realize. As African

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.800
<v Speaker 1>American families, you teach your kids when you get pulled

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>over by the police, you put your hands on the

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>steering wheel, and when the police walk up, you say

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.720
<v Speaker 1>your name and you say your address. You have conversations

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>at home about hey, when you get in school, this

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.799
<v Speaker 1>is what's going to happen when you get older. And

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it was very eye opening and it hurt, and I

0:53:55.960 --> 0:54:00.399
<v Speaker 1>just feel like, you know, if you do anything this week,

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>take the time to get to know somebody, black, white, Hispanic,

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. Take the time what's going on right

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 1>now in America and just talk to people. Get to

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>know who they are, get to know their troubles, get

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to know what pains they're going through and what things

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>they're going through, because I think right now, we need

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to understand each other. The only way we're going to

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:29.960
<v Speaker 1>fix this problem is to really understand what the problem is.

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>And I learned so much this week. And it's hard,

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and as a white man, it is very uncomfortable. But

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>once you start, it gets a little easier and easier

0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 1>and easier, and then you realize that your voice doesn't

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.840
<v Speaker 1>make a difference. And Jesse told me, he said, Hey,

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 1>what I need you to do is I need you

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to stand up and we need your help. We've been

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>we've been yelling this for years and years and years,

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's not doing any good. We need you, Shannon,

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.359
<v Speaker 1>as a white man, stand up and stand beside us

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and say hey, I've got a voice in this and

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>when you're not around, I need to represent you and

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I need to speak up when I see injustice and

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm saying that on the show.

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm I'm not trying to preach. I'm just

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>saying what's in my heart. And hopefully, throughout all this

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>tragedy and everything that's going on, we can learn to

0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>understand each other and we can make society better. And Jesse,

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:31.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you for talking to me. Nate, I know I

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 1>talked to you this week too. I talk to a

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that I work with, I talk to

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are friends of mine, and

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I want to say thank you to everybody

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that took the time to sit down and give me

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes and just and have real, honest conversations.

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:47.399
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's where all this starts. I think

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that's where making this better starts, is just talking and

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:54.760
<v Speaker 1>getting to know people. And you know, thank you guys

0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:56.319
<v Speaker 1>for letting I know you guys didn't know I was

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>doing this. Thank you for letting me hijack the show

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 1>for a few minutes. I know it's not about football,

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's what makes the show so great,

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 1>is like it's not always about football. It's just it's

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 1>about people. It's about our callers, it's about our listeners.

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It's about everybody. We're a family, like we really care

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>about the people that listen to this show, and I

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 1>care about you guys, and I want to make a difference.

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>So anything I can do to help, anything I can

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>do to try and make a difference, I'm here to

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>do that. So thank you, guys for giving me a

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:31.919
<v Speaker 1>few minutes to talk about this. Thank you, Thank you man,

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:33.720
<v Speaker 1>thank you for your courage, thank you for your words,

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you for your actions. And you know, you and

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I had a really good, deep conversation, and so this

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>means a lot to me as a black man, as

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:49.439
<v Speaker 1>your friend. And I hope people heard you. I heard.

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I hope that's the thing. I hope people heard you.

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 1>We've we've struggled with that for years of listening but hearing,

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>but not listening. I hope that it penetrated people's hearts.

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I hope people penetrate people mind and they too want

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to take the same steps action steps that you have

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.399
<v Speaker 1>taken and will continue to take from this point going forward.

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for using your platform and using your

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:17.880
<v Speaker 1>voice to help to help me to help the people

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in our community. So thank you, Shannon, Hey brother, appreciate

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you man. Just keep doing what you do. Man. And like,

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>my biggest thing right now is that I'm trying to

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>tell people don't forget. Don't forget, because that is what

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 1>we've done. You've always said, Okay, this has happened. What

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 1>about the you know, what can we do to move on?

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:40.440
<v Speaker 1>What we can do to move on, and this is

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>for all races, is to make sure that we vote

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>for the right people locally, statewide and nationally, vote for

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:50.919
<v Speaker 1>the right people that artists and trying to put things

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in place that cares about America as a hold and

0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>not just a segment. That is where we've missed the mark.

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 1>We have to come together as a whole. What is

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 1>good for Kurt, what is good for Chris, what is

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>good for Shannon, what is good for Jesse, what is

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 1>good for Nate? Will be to be to compromise so

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that everybody can live as a whole. Thanks Shannon, I mean,

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>all right, it's inspiring. I appreciate you doing that. I've

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 1>taken smaller steps. I'm talking to my children, trying to

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>educate myself, learn more, but I admit I need to

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:29.440
<v Speaker 1>step out more, talk to people. I appreciate your guys

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and the opportunity to debate with you each week, and

0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I wish you could do it more often. But thank you,

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you all to all of you, Thank you Shanna

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>for stepping up. Chris, I got something you want to say, baby,

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you, man, you got tears in your guys,

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Come on, baby something man. Hey, Chris, I could tell

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>where you was going. I can tell when you called

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 1>me this fast weekend. I told my wife, I said,

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Chris got something to say. So when you came with that,

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I knew. Probably Jesse knew where you was going with this.

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>We call Chris Shannon. I'm sorry. I just y'all, I'm sorry,

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>he's serious. Sorry, I do you want to break thice

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 1>fellas y'all sitting there looking sad, bro, This is a

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>great moment, not a sad mom. This is a great moment. Okay,

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>all right. I appreciate it, guys, and I love this show.

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I love getting on here with you every week, and

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 1>when we get back in the UH in the office,

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to, UH, let's go break bread at

0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>some point and talk about some real issues outside of

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>sports and see how we can get together and try

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to make a difference. So Chris Stakes for keeping us.

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 1>So there we go. Hey, we will don't worry. Chris

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Stakes for keeping us on the air. Kurt, stay strong,

0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Brother Nate, Jesse, love you guys. Thanks for hanging out.

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 1>We will be back next Monday, right here, hanging with

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<v Speaker 1>the boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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