Speaker 1: Wings Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley,
Speaker 1: and Shannon Gross. We are live. It's Monday, and that
Speaker 1: can only mean one thing. Hanging with the Boys live
Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage living Room in Frisco, Texas,
Speaker 1: for another episode of some hard hitting sports journalism. Just kidding,
Speaker 1: it's just us. We're back and we're here to take
Speaker 1: over your airwaves for one hour, maybe more. There's so
Speaker 1: much going on that there's some shows that we come
Speaker 1: on and we struggle to think about what to talk
Speaker 1: about and try to stretch for an hour. There's other
Speaker 1: days where there's so much going on and we're still
Speaker 1: in the off season. We got to talk about there's
Speaker 1: some training camp news that's going on. Kurt's got some
Speaker 1: breaking news about how they're going to handle the facility.
Speaker 1: We've got more DAK talk. Would it be a week
Speaker 1: of the off season without us talking about Dak. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this roster, what veterans need to
Speaker 1: prove themselves. And this does not happen very often, fellas,
Speaker 1: But I have something to say. I'm gonna save that
Speaker 1: for the end of the show because this is a
Speaker 1: momentous occasion because I very seldom have an opinion or
Speaker 1: something to say, So we'll get to that later. So
Speaker 1: you guys, all you fans, hang in there for the
Speaker 1: whole hour and listen to me say something. How you doing, Fellas,
Speaker 1: what's happening? What's up man, fellas? Glad to be good weekend?
Speaker 1: Good weekend. I hate when this dude trying to prep
Speaker 1: us or whatever it is that entity show. Now I'm
Speaker 1: all of reaction. The whole show is what do you
Speaker 1: got to tell us? Chimp, Jesse, good to see you, Kurt,
Speaker 1: good to see you, Chris, thanks for setting us up. Hey, Shannon, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you have to tell us later? Nan, You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to Nate, You're gonna have to stay on the
Speaker 1: whole show with us to hear what I have to say,
Speaker 1: because I'm saving it for the end. But now, right now,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about training camp. I have my
Speaker 1: two thousand and six Oxnard training camp ball cap on.
Speaker 1: This was the first time I ever went to training
Speaker 1: camp out in California. Was this year? Back in two
Speaker 1: thousand and six. The news came out this week that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will not be going to Oxnard. Reported I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's still official, but it's being reported
Speaker 1: by several several sources. They will have training camp and
Speaker 1: what it appears to be Frisco. And then Kurt, some
Speaker 1: more news came out right before we came on the
Speaker 1: show about how they're going to handle some of that stuff. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it is official that they can't go anywhere for training camp.
Speaker 1: NFL said they had to stay at their home facilities,
Speaker 1: so they will be in Frisco. And then the NFL
Speaker 1: came out today with the protocols for when players can
Speaker 1: come back to the to the offices or to the
Speaker 1: training facility. And this doesn't necessarily mean training camp. This
Speaker 1: just means ahead of time when they first come back,
Speaker 1: they're going to be required. The lockers have to be
Speaker 1: six feet apart. They're gonna be every other locker. They
Speaker 1: have to work in smaller groups like the workout areas.
Speaker 1: They have to rotate in. They can't have everybody in
Speaker 1: there at once, and between groups they have to disinfect.
Speaker 1: They can't have in person meetings with large groups. I
Speaker 1: think it has to be smaller groups or otherwise they'll
Speaker 1: be on the you zoom call video conference calls, just
Speaker 1: like they have been doing, or they can meet outside,
Speaker 1: I guess and kind of space it out a little bit.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some changes, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: it could be before the end of the month. They
Speaker 1: might let some of the rookies and veterans come back
Speaker 1: in to the facility to kind of get the ball
Speaker 1: roll and some of the new veterans excuse me, guys
Speaker 1: like Poe and McCoy. Yeah, there's changes coming, but at
Speaker 1: least there's some progress being made. Looks like they're getting
Speaker 1: a little bit closer to football. For me, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it because and I make Nate, you'll have
Speaker 1: your opinion on this. I like the new approach that
Speaker 1: they're taking because as someone who's been in the NFL
Speaker 1: locker room, and you understand that is the filthiest place
Speaker 1: on earth. An NFL locker room. NFL locker room is
Speaker 1: a filthy, filthy place. And when you tart talking about
Speaker 1: spreading different type of disease, like when when the fluid
Speaker 1: hits the locker room, when infections hit the locker room,
Speaker 1: it hits it hard because you're in so much close proximity.
Speaker 1: You're und I guess the fat guys getting fluid. It's
Speaker 1: always you look whippier, I guess because y'all, y'all have
Speaker 1: that insulated, You got those thick layers you gotta go
Speaker 1: to to get to the immut and system, gotta get
Speaker 1: into the ground. But but but but yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I think this is the right approach. Um. I
Speaker 1: think they're taking the necessary proper steps to getting us
Speaker 1: back to what we want, because the last thing we
Speaker 1: want is to happen is is we rush into this thing.
Speaker 1: And because I do believe that that second wave is
Speaker 1: hiding around the corner, and you get a locker room
Speaker 1: full of people who are you know, asymptomatic, and but
Speaker 1: they have it, and now that ultimately will shut down
Speaker 1: facilities again and put you in a very uncomfortable situation
Speaker 1: on trying to get the ball rolling. So I think
Speaker 1: you you measure twice and cut once on the front
Speaker 1: end and hopes that you're able to prevent uh, you know,
Speaker 1: prevent an infection happened in your locker room. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a pretty great setup. Obviously, they've got a
Speaker 1: big locker room, they've got extra locker rooms in that
Speaker 1: fort center. They can spread guys around it sounds like
Speaker 1: some teams are gonna have a little problem getting ninety
Speaker 1: guys in there comfortably. So yeah, it's nice. It's good
Speaker 1: to be a downless cowboy, that's for sure. I'd tell
Speaker 1: you right here, fellas, Uh, what I said off air,
Speaker 1: would not say on air. So you're right, Jesse. Then again,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're going along with it, and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna use the word that I use before where to go, Jesse?
Speaker 1: I cannot argue that point. As as former players, how
Speaker 1: do you think this? Does this help them stay here? Um?
Speaker 1: In Frisco for the first time? You know, did it
Speaker 1: help you guys when you went somewhere for camp? As
Speaker 1: opposed to Jesse, you have you played on teams that
Speaker 1: have stayed kind of in their home area before. Outside
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, Yeah, and the Patriots, they stayed new
Speaker 1: practice every day. I let the same place you practice
Speaker 1: at during the regular season, it's the same place you
Speaker 1: practice at during training camp. Um, so you stay, you
Speaker 1: stay right there. I was with the Cincinnati Bengals where
Speaker 1: you went to Georgetown, Kentucky and and did training camp there. Um,
Speaker 1: the different things at yeah, yeah, yeah, like we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna play to watch this. The thing about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys like to make it I mean a spectacle.
Speaker 1: I mean I was a part of the Cowboys where
Speaker 1: we did training camp in three different places. One year
Speaker 1: we had we had the opportunity to have the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame Game, and I remember we started training camp
Speaker 1: in San Antonio, Texas. After a couple of weeks in
Speaker 1: San Antonio, Texas, we then flew to oxtion Ard and
Speaker 1: had practices in oxtion Ard where we played some West
Speaker 1: Coast preseason games, and then we had the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game, which then took us took us back to
Speaker 1: Dallas for about a week or so to have practice
Speaker 1: in Dallas to get ready to go to the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game. So I was there. We bounced around
Speaker 1: in three different locations and just I mean the headache
Speaker 1: of that of just traveling all this from places. I
Speaker 1: think this may actually work. Um, this may be something
Speaker 1: that actually may work. They have the Omni Hotel that
Speaker 1: sits right there. Um, so if you're trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: get that hotel some business in some money, you know,
Speaker 1: put the players and stuff right there. That way they
Speaker 1: can come right to the facility. Without having to do
Speaker 1: much traveling. Did the Patriots even though they had training
Speaker 1: camp at their home place? Did they How did all
Speaker 1: the players come together in one hotel? Did they just
Speaker 1: stay home? Now, we all were in one hotel. Okay,
Speaker 1: we all we all were in one hotel. They had
Speaker 1: hotel checks and all that kind of stuff. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure guys like Tom Brady and such. After a certain
Speaker 1: amount of days and after hour they were like, I'm
Speaker 1: going home, but we all stayed in. We all stayed
Speaker 1: in the same hotel. I'm gonna telling Jo what this
Speaker 1: thing was supposed to do many many years ago was
Speaker 1: get you away from the family, get you together your bond.
Speaker 1: You'd be you'd be up on the one calls, one
Speaker 1: one fight. But with the day's as travel, the use
Speaker 1: of phones, and the way you can do what we're
Speaker 1: doing here, your family never is never just a just
Speaker 1: a dollarway of a series call away series called Shannon's Girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Please thank you, so you already you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So now whole headphone up, Nate, did your phone I
Speaker 1: actually called Shannon's girlfriend when you told Syria to do so.
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I don't number she calls Mama
Speaker 1: gross though. Okay, but I'll be honest with you. What
Speaker 1: it is designed to do when you have traveled away
Speaker 1: was mainly bring the guys together and be up under
Speaker 1: one one deal, trying to get yourself prepared for football.
Speaker 1: But Jesse, you know, like the rest of you guys know,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys training camp probably at about that ten
Speaker 1: to one became what you said, Jesse, it's about making
Speaker 1: money along with get your mind right, bill in your brand.
Speaker 1: So but it's a good thing. Some players can handle
Speaker 1: it the big stage. Some players can't, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, for I think, for what has happened this pandemic,
Speaker 1: we need to be together with the new guys, old guys,
Speaker 1: new coaches, and they need to be in one spot,
Speaker 1: not worrying about moving, worrying about making this team and
Speaker 1: making it better. So you think that with all the
Speaker 1: other changes going on, this change of training camp, this
Speaker 1: might be a good thing. Man, Oh, it's a benefit.
Speaker 1: It's nowhere. It's not a benefit. Can you imagine going
Speaker 1: to California which is a hot spot, and everybody's sitting
Speaker 1: there like, man, should we walk out our doll? You know, no, Man,
Speaker 1: you stay right here and Frisco tell you the else
Speaker 1: is happy. Yeah, I know, Mike, I know Mike mccordney,
Speaker 1: Crewe is happy. They don't have the load. They don't
Speaker 1: have the loads. They don't have to load the trucks
Speaker 1: up with wings and workout stuff and football equipment oncount
Speaker 1: They're like, man, we get to stay right here there there.
Speaker 1: Their summer has just gotten a lot better because Mike
Speaker 1: mccordy and Bucket all those guys. They don't have to
Speaker 1: load those truckers up and drive halfway across America. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And for those of you that don't know, they literally
Speaker 1: pack up the entire weight room, the weights, the bitches,
Speaker 1: the rats, the bars, like everything. They pack them up
Speaker 1: in eighteen wheeler tractor trailers and ship them to California
Speaker 1: for camp. And then they pack it all back up
Speaker 1: and send it back on top of all the pads
Speaker 1: to take the gatorade, you know, all the other equipment,
Speaker 1: every uniform for every weather, everything, every weather. I mean,
Speaker 1: the they do it all. Man, It is a it
Speaker 1: is a monumental beaty. The weeks leading up the training,
Speaker 1: those guys, I mean they have they have these I
Speaker 1: guess their boxes they're probably what Kurt six feet six
Speaker 1: and a half feet tall, probably four feet square, and
Speaker 1: they cram them full of all the stuff and send
Speaker 1: it out there. And then they have to take all
Speaker 1: that stuff loaded up on the planes, take it to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, ship it back for practice,
Speaker 1: ship it to the next preseason game, ship it back
Speaker 1: for practice, ship it to the next preseason game, back
Speaker 1: to practice, and then when we break camp. The day
Speaker 1: they break camp, they load it all back into eighteen
Speaker 1: wheelers overnight, and then the eighteen wheelers come back while
Speaker 1: we're flying back to go for that that usually that
Speaker 1: third and fourth preseason game, to come back home, ship
Speaker 1: it all back along with all of our luggage. All
Speaker 1: the players, I mean, it is a those guys, they
Speaker 1: earn their money that you know what's amazing about all
Speaker 1: of this. They do this for all of the players,
Speaker 1: but not only for all of the players. They do
Speaker 1: it all of the staff, and for mister Jones and
Speaker 1: his party, for Shannon and his If you they give
Speaker 1: you shirts, they give you they give you a pants,
Speaker 1: they give you shoes. They give it to everybody. If
Speaker 1: you carry a cowboy name. Even when I used to
Speaker 1: go out there they used to have a little, a
Speaker 1: little thing for me, a little, a little package for me,
Speaker 1: and you can take that over there and get it
Speaker 1: washed daily. They're washing these guys clothes, not not they're
Speaker 1: unders and all of that, but the clothes that they
Speaker 1: have to wear, their uniform, they wash them daily daily.
Speaker 1: So these guys never stop moving. They don't go to lunch,
Speaker 1: they don't go to breakfast. They just continue to move.
Speaker 1: So they do a great job. Any concern about now
Speaker 1: and having a training camp in that Texas heat or
Speaker 1: indoors on the turf, nah nah nah, I mean make
Speaker 1: them tough, you know what, you know what, Jesse, you
Speaker 1: know you you you making have a different opinion. But
Speaker 1: coaches are smart and how they work their players. But
Speaker 1: I asked a guy, you know, I told a guy
Speaker 1: one time, I got the man so hard out here.
Speaker 1: I understand what a new era, a new way of
Speaker 1: doing things that your body it's not used to being
Speaker 1: beat on at any time. But don't tell me you
Speaker 1: practicing pads, then you out of pads and you're practicing paths.
Speaker 1: Then you out of pads, then you off and you're
Speaker 1: talking about you tired. What are you doing? Really? What
Speaker 1: are you doing. You walk through in the morning, you hit,
Speaker 1: hitting pads, maybe fifteen twenty minutes that afternoon. Next day
Speaker 1: you're walking through again. Then you next time you're you're
Speaker 1: hitting the So you mean to tell me watching film,
Speaker 1: it's just really then broke you down because that's all
Speaker 1: they do. So I'm so hey, come on, man, hey, Jesse, Jesse,
Speaker 1: is this late version of when I was a kid
Speaker 1: I used to watch Sharon You did not hear me say,
Speaker 1: you did not hear me? No, I do not. I
Speaker 1: do not buy into how it was for us, because
Speaker 1: your body is not designed to be hit on. But
Speaker 1: you're only hitting maybe thirty minutes in a practice. Then
Speaker 1: you're off. You know, you hit, you walk through, you hit,
Speaker 1: and it maybe thirty forty minutes, and then you're off, off,
Speaker 1: you off for twenty four hours. But see, it don't matter.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is your body is not designed. You
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. I'm not going there because like
Speaker 1: I tempt you, like I tell the older guys, stop man,
Speaker 1: because my story is not it's not that great compared
Speaker 1: to Drew, to Drew Pierson, I mean the Preston Pearson.
Speaker 1: My story is not that great to Bob Lily to
Speaker 1: where these guys had two and three hour practices. No water.
Speaker 1: Everybody is a little bit different, but our bodies are
Speaker 1: not designed to be beat on. But don't tell me
Speaker 1: you tire because you had a couple of practices that
Speaker 1: equip maybe forty five minutes of hiddie. That's all I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, be the best you can be. And
Speaker 1: I also think, you know, the strategic part about coaching
Speaker 1: is that, you know, they foreshadow what the what is
Speaker 1: the weather going to look like, what do we need?
Speaker 1: How are things going to work out? And they can
Speaker 1: look at it and go, hey, you know what, on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: it's only going to be eighty five degrees, let's practice outside.
Speaker 1: Or hey, let's do an early morning practice so we
Speaker 1: can get outside. Maybe it's a little bit of humidity,
Speaker 1: but let's get outside on the grass. Let's get outside
Speaker 1: and the elements a little bit, you know, and then
Speaker 1: the whole. But Friday it's going to be one hundred
Speaker 1: and five, so we'll move them inside. Because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. You we don't play as a
Speaker 1: home team. We don't play in the elements, right we
Speaker 1: have we have the luxury of being in a billion
Speaker 1: dollar indoor facility with teams like New England who Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what was happening. You practiced outside and
Speaker 1: they had an indoor facility, rain, sleeps, snow below zero
Speaker 1: because because Bill Buchick mindset was, you're not going to
Speaker 1: play indoors on Sunday. You're playing outdoors at home on Sunday.
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you practicing what you're going to play
Speaker 1: in on Sunday. It's hard to get a lot of
Speaker 1: work done when you're talking about that blazing heat. Guys
Speaker 1: all of a sudden start fatiguing faster. They need ivs guys,
Speaker 1: you know. And when that heat get on your back
Speaker 1: and you got that equipment on, this haze comes over
Speaker 1: you and you you spend more time correcting and repeating
Speaker 1: than you do actually getting good, solid working. So I
Speaker 1: see why sometimes coaches go inside. We had we had
Speaker 1: we had the fiasco we had last year where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were going to play in a way game and
Speaker 1: an outdoor stadium, and the elements that we were having
Speaker 1: here in Dallas was matching the element that they were
Speaker 1: going to be able to go see in that game
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but that coaching staff decided to go indoors
Speaker 1: and we saw how that played out in the game.
Speaker 1: So that's the strategic part about coaching, knowing your players,
Speaker 1: foreshadowing what the weather may look like and how it
Speaker 1: can you can get a combination of both, because you
Speaker 1: do need to go outside a little bit and get
Speaker 1: some of that condition again. You know, have that sun
Speaker 1: on your back a little bit that that helps with conditioning,
Speaker 1: That helps with a little bit of the mental toughness
Speaker 1: of it all, and you know, just getting being able
Speaker 1: to work through those things as you would have to
Speaker 1: in the game because you're gonna go to some places
Speaker 1: where you're not going to be used to the elements
Speaker 1: we have. We have a couple of games we gotta
Speaker 1: December game in Baltimore. Guess what, right off the water,
Speaker 1: it's going to be cold, and if you're not conditioned
Speaker 1: for that, then that sometimes can be a distraction to
Speaker 1: you mentally. So you got to be able to propare yourself.
Speaker 1: That rat pre you able to prepare yourself mentally effically.
Speaker 1: So I think I think the thing with this coaching staff,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say I hope that this coaching
Speaker 1: staff with Mike McCarthy at the helm, will do the
Speaker 1: right things and kind of mixing and matching being outside
Speaker 1: being inside, And of course we're talking about the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: So what does that mean. That mean that it's still
Speaker 1: going to be a spectacle. And so they're going to
Speaker 1: have twelve thousand people on the inside like it's a
Speaker 1: high school football game or boxing match inside the Ford Center.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have some practices and there's some live
Speaker 1: practices where you're going to have all the fans come
Speaker 1: in there. You're gonna have chili to come out at
Speaker 1: the halftime of the game, of the scrimmage, or whatever
Speaker 1: it may be. Because it is the Dallas Cowboys and
Speaker 1: it is a show, and it will be a show
Speaker 1: no matter what you try to make it out to be.
Speaker 1: And over the was it current? Over the over the
Speaker 1: over the weekend or late last week? I think the
Speaker 1: governor added here in Texas said that all stadiums and
Speaker 1: arenas will be able to operate capacity. Is that right?
Speaker 1: Did I read that right? Yeah? Yeah, that's what he's
Speaker 1: saying so far. But you know what the NFL said,
Speaker 1: They're proceeding like there's gonna be full season with full stadiums.
Speaker 1: So hopefully we'll get to that point. But the governor,
Speaker 1: governor having to be on page by time they get there,
Speaker 1: you'll be with it. We've we've talked about the young
Speaker 1: guys and with you know, everybody getting a late start,
Speaker 1: that this may help the young guys kind of get
Speaker 1: a be on more of a level playing field with
Speaker 1: the with the veterans. Um, who are some guys that
Speaker 1: come to mind on this team, Um, that are that
Speaker 1: we're looking at that are gonna be bubble guys that
Speaker 1: are really gonna have to get in there and compete
Speaker 1: this year. There are any guys that come to mind
Speaker 1: for you, guys that that have been on this team
Speaker 1: for a year or two, maybe three, that every veteran
Speaker 1: that don't have a guarantee contract. But yes, what happened
Speaker 1: to Noah Brown? Is Noel browns to the bar of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? What is he? Then? This this guy they
Speaker 1: talked about so much, how much they love them. Is
Speaker 1: his physicality and how was pig and strong? And what
Speaker 1: was Noah Brown? This is the guy who I'm looking
Speaker 1: if Maurah Brown is still on this football team in
Speaker 1: New York soon because he can block. Well, it was
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. I want I want to see one Noah
Speaker 1: Brown's got They talked, they talked him up so much
Speaker 1: as a receiver. I want to see where he's where
Speaker 1: he's at. I've always had this, I've always I've had
Speaker 1: this question with this team. It seems like there's always
Speaker 1: a guy. They always have one or two of these
Speaker 1: guys that never gets on the playing field. That usually
Speaker 1: usually there's injuries involved where they're you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lingering issue, or there's something where they can't quite get
Speaker 1: over the hump, they can't quite get on the field.
Speaker 1: But they keep these guys around. And it seems like
Speaker 1: ever since I've been here, they've they've had those one
Speaker 1: or two of those guys that they just that seems
Speaker 1: to stay on this team. Is that Is it like
Speaker 1: that on every team where they have them at Cathain
Speaker 1: or is it just this team? Nah? Nah No, how
Speaker 1: most teams want guys who can actually go out there
Speaker 1: and do something. Yeah, yeah nah bro Nah No, Sorry,
Speaker 1: we need the social distance. I suffered them cash real quick,
Speaker 1: real Jesse, Kurt Shannon, don't I mean? And our fans
Speaker 1: were latch on to these nobodies with latch on too,
Speaker 1: these nobodies that cannot help this team win. And where
Speaker 1: are such as such the same place he's been waiting on?
Speaker 1: Training camp. That's when they get all the fame and
Speaker 1: training camp, which does not win games? Come home? Man?
Speaker 1: Who why why is that? Why is that? I don't
Speaker 1: Is there a reason for that? Is it? People get excited? Guy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: people get excited about somebody new, Like who was your
Speaker 1: last the receiver Javan or something like that. I mean
Speaker 1: there's always somebody in training camp. But everybody's oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the next Tony Roman, the next diamond
Speaker 1: in the rough they find. But yeah, they they hang
Speaker 1: their hat on that word potential. Oh yeah, so much potential. Man.
Speaker 1: He could be he could be the next, he could
Speaker 1: be the next. And then you know some people just
Speaker 1: never live up to that potential, man and play some ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's getting closed. Ball is going to happen. I
Speaker 1: tell I've been I've been telling everyone for People would
Speaker 1: ask me, hey, what do you think you think NFL
Speaker 1: is going to have a season, And I'm like, go
Speaker 1: google how much the NFL generates in revenue. When you
Speaker 1: were talking about the gross national product that's larger than
Speaker 1: some countries. They are going to have an NFL season.
Speaker 1: Now what that looks like, if there's fans in the
Speaker 1: seats or whatever, I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 1: But they will. They will find a way to play football,
Speaker 1: because there's no way that you're not going to have
Speaker 1: a season when you're talking about that much money involved.
Speaker 1: There's just let me ask you this here, Shannon, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. He a serious question. Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't like serious question. What's you're gonna tell us at
Speaker 1: the end of the show? Man share with us? You know,
Speaker 1: you know what? Nate for me to be able to
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm gonna tell you at the end
Speaker 1: of the show. We have to take two breaks. We
Speaker 1: have to take two breaks, So I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get me to tell you a
Speaker 1: little bit quicker than I was planning on it by
Speaker 1: taking the first break now and then we can come back. Cool,
Speaker 1: We'll talk about da Michael Irvin had some interesting comments.
Speaker 1: I want to know what you guys have to think
Speaker 1: about that. He said that they've been getting back at
Speaker 1: a at a discounted rate the last few years, so
Speaker 1: it's time to go ahead and just pay him back.
Speaker 1: Pay Um. We could talk about there you go. You
Speaker 1: could talk about Marcus Share, Marcus Marcus ware had some
Speaker 1: It's on Alten Smith, Tank and Randy Gregory and this defense.
Speaker 1: And then I have something to say when we come
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Speaker 1: with twenty seconds in the show left. Oh fellas Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: It we cannot stop talking about Dak Prescott. It seems
Speaker 1: like every week there's some other comments, some new comments.
Speaker 1: Something's going on now, it's Michael Irvin chiming in Kurt.
Speaker 1: Michael had some things to say. I believe it was yesterday.
Speaker 1: What did Michael have to say about Dak in his situation. Well,
Speaker 1: he basically said, paying the money, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: he's he's deserving of being the highest paid quarterback right now.
Speaker 1: I won't last long once myhomes was signed. But and
Speaker 1: he said that Cowboys have been so fortunate and they've
Speaker 1: got four years out of him for you know, minimal pay,
Speaker 1: far far less than what he's worth. So it's now
Speaker 1: it's time to you know, pay them in I guess.
Speaker 1: So he'll get paid. It's just some matter of when
Speaker 1: they can work this out. And you had a so
Speaker 1: there was a mail back question that you sent me
Speaker 1: that's really kind of interesting and I never thought of
Speaker 1: it this way. Go into that a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the sticking point seems to be that, you know,
Speaker 1: Dak wants a four year deal so he can get
Speaker 1: the open market again quicker, and the Cowboys are pushing
Speaker 1: more for five and so, but is he hurting himself
Speaker 1: in the long run perhaps because say he plays under
Speaker 1: this franchise tag and then the Cowboys next year, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe they do sign him for four they've wound up
Speaker 1: getting him five years regardless, and they've had to pay
Speaker 1: him less that first year. I mean, in some ways
Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, is it like the lottery? You
Speaker 1: never asked for the deferred payments for the lottery. You
Speaker 1: want the lump sum right now. You want as much
Speaker 1: money as you can get right now. Is he I
Speaker 1: understand he's betting on himself and he's hoping for a
Speaker 1: big payday. But the other the flip side of that
Speaker 1: coin is is he leaving money on the ta able
Speaker 1: now that you know he may not get down the road? No?
Speaker 1: I think I think go ahead day. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say it, and I think in the mail back
Speaker 1: question it was a good point. If he's wanting a
Speaker 1: four year deal and the Cowboys are wanting a five
Speaker 1: year deal, if you take the tag this year and
Speaker 1: play under that next year, does that four year deal
Speaker 1: become a three year deal because you're delaying it a year?
Speaker 1: Or is it a four year deal again on the
Speaker 1: table that actually winds up being five because you're getting
Speaker 1: tagged this year? You push, you push back your open
Speaker 1: market anyway, you know, right, I don't think he loses
Speaker 1: the money. I think. I think if he if he's
Speaker 1: franchised this year, I think how he makes that money up.
Speaker 1: If he's like, well he's gonna play for less well
Speaker 1: next year. If after a good a deal done, the
Speaker 1: prices went up because Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson have
Speaker 1: gotten their deals, and if for any reason he takes
Speaker 1: this team to an NFC Championship game or something like that,
Speaker 1: and I was, price goes up even more. So he's
Speaker 1: going he's gonna eventually get that. And then he may
Speaker 1: play hardball and say no, now I just want a
Speaker 1: three year deal. I want a three year deal at
Speaker 1: a much higher rate than was before. But I think
Speaker 1: the money part of this thing, whether it's franchise year
Speaker 1: this year and the four year deal after that or
Speaker 1: four year deal this year, and how they handle it
Speaker 1: after that, the money part. He's going to get his payday, like,
Speaker 1: he's going to get that money one way or another,
Speaker 1: by hook or by cook, and only has to do
Speaker 1: is keep playing the way that he's been playing. And
Speaker 1: this team continues to progress and we think that they
Speaker 1: can do what they're supposed to do with the new
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I think it's it's it's almost delayed punishment,
Speaker 1: pocketbook punishment for the Cowboys. It's either either do it
Speaker 1: now or you're gonna have to do it later when
Speaker 1: it's going to cost you more. Because if you're believing
Speaker 1: that this team can do some powerful things with him
Speaker 1: at the helm and this coaching staff, that means that
Speaker 1: means now he's going to add to his resume another
Speaker 1: forty five hundred to five thousand yards season, another twenty
Speaker 1: five plus touchdown type season. And if he then carries
Speaker 1: his team deeper into the playoffs than he has in
Speaker 1: any of his previous seasons, well, now all of you've done.
Speaker 1: Now I'll come back to the table and I go, well,
Speaker 1: now you gotta pay me more because I've done this,
Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, the market has changed again.
Speaker 1: So that's That's that Russian roulette chicken game that you're playing.
Speaker 1: Is that if he continues on his trajectory again this year.
Speaker 1: This year he broked all of his personal records, more touchdowns,
Speaker 1: more yards, more completions, more, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: If he does that again next year, or even kind
Speaker 1: of you know, does the same thing equivalent to what
Speaker 1: he did this year next year and they go deeper
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I'm back at the table again, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not a number goes up again, because you
Speaker 1: had a chance to give me less money last year
Speaker 1: and before the market had changed, and before I took
Speaker 1: our team to the divisional championship or you know, you know,
Speaker 1: divisional championship, a super Bowl or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta pay me more because of those things.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is just right here is He's not
Speaker 1: missing nothing. Okay. He came into the league a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick. Everybody because everybody just wants to be greedy.
Speaker 1: He said, He's been sensible in his own mind, saying, okay,
Speaker 1: thirty one point four million dollars, Okay, is that not
Speaker 1: a lot of money? So so what if they if
Speaker 1: the if they if the cap moves back, So what
Speaker 1: if if Deshan Watson don't sign, It's still gonna go
Speaker 1: to thirty nine million next year And we'll be having
Speaker 1: the same conversation if this kid is made up in
Speaker 1: his mind with his representatives that I am good. Well, Matt, Now,
Speaker 1: we as fans and as analysts had that right to
Speaker 1: speculating and play the you know, the what if game.
Speaker 1: But the what if game is similar. If we have
Speaker 1: to start at thirty one point four million dollars, he's
Speaker 1: not good at that? Can you right now? Vast you
Speaker 1: five guys even we split this up five ways account
Speaker 1: and Chris Bean, will we not be all right for
Speaker 1: the rest of our line? Yeah? Where do I sign? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's like, uh, I tried all of this. All
Speaker 1: of this benefits the Dallas Cowboys. If they can get
Speaker 1: him signed, that is good. See, that's that's if you
Speaker 1: ever put in your mind and thinks that, man, that
Speaker 1: is good. He's okay. He just gave a million dollars
Speaker 1: to to to retrain a million dollars to a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick. Man. I could never give a million dollars, man,
Speaker 1: But he gave a million dollars so to the police
Speaker 1: force to retrain their people. Think now, and he ain't
Speaker 1: even signed that one older of that thirty one million dollars,
Speaker 1: He ain't touched it. Think about it now, Well, I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm wondering again, is it he's obviously betting
Speaker 1: on himself. And that's awesome. I think that's great. But
Speaker 1: you look at We'll take Andy Dalton for example. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had his rookie deal age twenty seventh season, which
Speaker 1: Dak is entering his age twenty seventh season. He signed
Speaker 1: a big contract. I think it was like ninety million
Speaker 1: dollars at the time. It wasn't a top ten contract,
Speaker 1: but it was like ninety million dollars I think six years.
Speaker 1: He signed a long term deal, so he got through that.
Speaker 1: Now he's on that third contract. Now he's where Dak
Speaker 1: wants to be in five years. This is where Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton is now. He winds up signing a three million
Speaker 1: dollars deal to be a backup. You know, Obviously his gamble,
Speaker 1: if you want to call it, that didn't pay off,
Speaker 1: and I think that's maybe the risk is Dak is
Speaker 1: betting on himself. But you know he got he got
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars. An I'm saying obviously paid off for him.
Speaker 1: It's gonna pay off for Dak. But Dak's looking forward
Speaker 1: to that third contract. No. See, that's that's where we
Speaker 1: that's you don't think here landing a head at third contract. No, No,
Speaker 1: what Dak is planning for is to get this contract.
Speaker 1: He just wants to make sure he is comfortable. See,
Speaker 1: in our minds, we were we were in our minds,
Speaker 1: we were projecting oh Man to the third contract. No,
Speaker 1: what Dak is saying is I want a four year
Speaker 1: deal now, right, So so if he'll make more money,
Speaker 1: thing gets a five year deal. Hi, he'll make the
Speaker 1: money now if he gets a five year deal. No, No,
Speaker 1: he'll make more money if he gets a four year
Speaker 1: deal because he's betting on the third contract and don't
Speaker 1: on this contract. He's betting on this contract. He is saying,
Speaker 1: give me a four year deal right right now? Right?
Speaker 1: You know, see this is saying this. This is the
Speaker 1: only this is the only thing that's that's that's messed
Speaker 1: up about this. If he gets injured, that's the only thing.
Speaker 1: But he's well, he's trying to get is this contract.
Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to get. See we want to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get he want to re up with
Speaker 1: everybody else when whenever, when Rogers come up, when this
Speaker 1: guy come up, when this guy, well he the guys
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be dealing with, Deshaun Watson and the
Speaker 1: Kenny Casey, they're gonna get five year deals because they're
Speaker 1: gonna get these contracts done before the season over with,
Speaker 1: So he's still not gonna be coming up with them,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be coming up behind them before them excused him.
Speaker 1: So what Dark is trying to do if you can
Speaker 1: lock him Whitney here, he's trying to get this contract
Speaker 1: done and he walked four years. Yeah, but I'm I know,
Speaker 1: I know he wants four years now, but why wouldn't
Speaker 1: he if he wants to paint they now, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: he take five years and more money? But black white?
Speaker 1: He can't take four years and get and get all
Speaker 1: his money. Now, see, I see you don't know what
Speaker 1: this man has asked for. Maybe Jared him say we
Speaker 1: would give you five years and we would give you
Speaker 1: thirty seven per year, and this man may say, nah,
Speaker 1: I want four years for thirty seven right now? Ye
Speaker 1: see that's we don't know what's happening. And unless you
Speaker 1: got an inside scoop now to share with us, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you got sorry. Okay. We keep hearing that mister Jones
Speaker 1: and his party wants to do a five year deal
Speaker 1: so to help the cap, they'll know where they're at
Speaker 1: and they can project. See everybody's talking about what Dak's
Speaker 1: trying to do. What is mister Jones and his group
Speaker 1: trying to do. They're trying to stabilize and project where
Speaker 1: they need to be. That you could do what you
Speaker 1: need to do. But I need four years right now
Speaker 1: at this amount. We don't know that amount. He could
Speaker 1: be asking for forty a year. You don't know, true,
Speaker 1: you don't know what I get what you're saying. Kurt,
Speaker 1: And and for Andy, I think he he gambled on
Speaker 1: himself and loss. I mean he's he thought he thought
Speaker 1: staying he thought thing in Cincinnati and with that or
Speaker 1: that lineup and that coaching staff, and I mean he
Speaker 1: had some good players around him. He had aj Green,
Speaker 1: he had them, he had the Titan running back and forth,
Speaker 1: the tighting. He got hurt. So he thought that there
Speaker 1: were some pieces in there, and you know that place
Speaker 1: where he drafted him at. I think I think Dak
Speaker 1: is seeing the same thing. I think Dak is seeing
Speaker 1: the fact that man, I got a really good team.
Speaker 1: But I also understand that if I can get back
Speaker 1: to the table, because honestly, in a four year deal, right,
Speaker 1: if he signs a four year deal in essence, in essence,
Speaker 1: he could come back to the table in three in Essex.
Speaker 1: He can come back to the table in three because
Speaker 1: if in that first three years he does something monumental
Speaker 1: like win a super Bowl, when I get to year three,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know what, I've given you a super
Speaker 1: Bowl and now I kind of don't even want to
Speaker 1: get to your floor anymore. Let's let's reegrotiate this thing
Speaker 1: before I even get to year fourth. They were but
Speaker 1: mister Jones and Steven will come to him because they said, oh,
Speaker 1: let's don't wait. We screwed this up the last time
Speaker 1: because they had a contract that was ready to be
Speaker 1: signed last year and and it got out of and
Speaker 1: it got kind of and they and dact them forced
Speaker 1: the hand and they kind of just went went solid
Speaker 1: on them, so they that if that thing happened, But
Speaker 1: this is, this is the deal is we can project
Speaker 1: and we can do whatever we want. The bottom line
Speaker 1: is that he is trying to secure this contract and
Speaker 1: when next year comes, he's gonna be trying to steal
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they don't they let him play
Speaker 1: through this tag, he gonna be trying to secure this
Speaker 1: contract that you don't have to You don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about a third contract if but you have to
Speaker 1: worry about that sounds like a lot of people, A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't. Have you heard Dak people say that?
Speaker 1: Have you heard Dad say that? We just only people
Speaker 1: that we've known that have said something is Missus Jones
Speaker 1: and his party. So, but were speculate? Okay? The only
Speaker 1: thing that most of us do know where eighty percent
Speaker 1: certainly is this kid want four years? So now we're
Speaker 1: tagging on everything else. We're okay, he want why, Well
Speaker 1: let me I'm assume this, and I don't assume that.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that that trying to get these four years.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm assuming, right, Kurt? I love you like
Speaker 1: your hat looking good? You look at Jimmy, You look
Speaker 1: at Jimmy Johnson that you see that just out of
Speaker 1: as sticking up? Yeah? Hey what a minute? I like
Speaker 1: I like to debate, though, Kurts, that's real, sweet babe.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you guys think? I know
Speaker 1: none of us have any kind of inside you dog
Speaker 1: going on thing like that. That's mine. Sorry, I know
Speaker 1: none of us, even your dog agree. What what is
Speaker 1: y'all's gut feeling? Do y'all think he's gonna wind up
Speaker 1: getting tagged, or do you think as this thing gets
Speaker 1: like so many times with the Cowboys, he gets down
Speaker 1: to hey, gets down to the wire, they finally get
Speaker 1: to the table and they come up with the deal.
Speaker 1: What is y'all's gut feeling? You think this thing will
Speaker 1: get done? Or do you think that plays under the
Speaker 1: tag this season? I think it gets done. How do two?
Speaker 1: I think it will? Hey, four years our tag? Baby?
Speaker 1: That fifth year is so that fifth year is so
Speaker 1: over the top. Didn't like, bro, that's the that's the
Speaker 1: that's the messes up. That fifth year is so over
Speaker 1: the top. But we know how that go. If that
Speaker 1: fifth year is so over the top, he's never getting
Speaker 1: to that fifth year, like even in the non't come
Speaker 1: back out that Like they're gonna give him that fifth
Speaker 1: year and that money gonna be so large. Think like,
Speaker 1: ain't away in the world. We we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: redo this dude. But that's what I'm saying. You got
Speaker 1: to knock these dudes socks off. So what you think, Nate,
Speaker 1: is it gonna get done or nah, man, they're gonna
Speaker 1: tag him up for the rest of the year. I
Speaker 1: mean that tag is easy to continue to tag once
Speaker 1: you tag. It's easy to continue to tag you. And
Speaker 1: I keep saying to myself, this dude is a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick who's all of a sudden, less than three
Speaker 1: in less than four years, is considered a top depending
Speaker 1: on who you're talking to, a top ten quarterback. If
Speaker 1: you go through the top ten quarterbacks, you're gonna put
Speaker 1: that somewhere real close to that. So now you went
Speaker 1: from a fourth round pick who's making millions of dollars
Speaker 1: off the field. So the same thing that everybody wanted
Speaker 1: him to take less for is what he relying on.
Speaker 1: Now He's supplemented everything right now, like, hey man, I
Speaker 1: just made five plant five meal off off off this
Speaker 1: thing I just did this year. So the same thing
Speaker 1: that everybody wanted him to take less from he is
Speaker 1: using so he can go fun. So I'm telling you, Kurt,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. You're looking good. Baby. Hey, I
Speaker 1: just hey. I want him I want him to I
Speaker 1: want him to bet on himself. I want him to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. I want him to earn that
Speaker 1: big third contract. I don't want him to wind up
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith and you know here are yeah, but
Speaker 1: you have thirty one beans, baby, you know, but he
Speaker 1: could have had, He could have had thirty seven, th forty.
Speaker 1: You know whatever, Hey, brother, I'm tell you whatever they're
Speaker 1: trying to do is gonna lord his cap here. So
Speaker 1: it ain't that they trying to go hire and and
Speaker 1: the thing that is that that is amazing about all
Speaker 1: this man gives us good clean conversation. Yes it does.
Speaker 1: We're back talking about da. We're back talking about Dak
Speaker 1: and Dak father saying thank you, thank you, Nate, thank you.
Speaker 1: Did you see that ESPN story came out this morning?
Speaker 1: They they did a mock draft using every player in
Speaker 1: the NFL, so it could be Tom Brady or it
Speaker 1: could be Joe Burrows. Everybody's available. They pick Dak ninth overall.
Speaker 1: Wow you think that? And the more they take Dak
Speaker 1: the more the more Dak is saying thank you. And
Speaker 1: it's aged Jared. Did you see that? Jared Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we saw that. But we're sticking without five years. Stephen,
Speaker 1: get the phone, So Stephen is the one years. Hey,
Speaker 1: do you think if Dak won a Super Bowl he
Speaker 1: would have a contract sitting on the table at the
Speaker 1: after partner man, this is the Cowboys, Yes, sir, absolutely,
Speaker 1: he'd have a contract and I'm blank check write your
Speaker 1: number in there. Championship to this franchise. Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this, you can take Dallas and just take
Speaker 1: it off of the map because it's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be out of this world if that happens. I'm telling
Speaker 1: commercial with missus back in David, Missus Jones to be
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Speaker 1: show probably for about three or four years now, and
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Speaker 1: rarely have an opinion or an original point of view,
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Speaker 1: started this thing, however many years ago, we wanted this
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Speaker 1: but we always respect each other. We always listen to
Speaker 1: another points of view, and we you know, sometimes we
Speaker 1: challenge each other. And that's you know, that's the same
Speaker 1: thing as in life. You don't have to agree with everybody,
Speaker 1: but you know, respect people. And with the things that
Speaker 1: have been going on the last you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks in the world, and we kind of brushed
Speaker 1: on it a little bit and kind of didn't talk
Speaker 1: about it a whole lot. Last Monday, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the country has really really
Speaker 1: been weighing on me for the last week. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's if it's guilt, I don't know, if
Speaker 1: it's if it's just helplessness, I don't it's anger, I know.
Speaker 1: If it's anger, I don't know, if it's because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm soon we'll be bringing a son into this world.
Speaker 1: But it really, it's really bothered me all week. And
Speaker 1: then after the show on Monday, I called Jesse and
Speaker 1: I called Jesse as a friend. I called Jesse as
Speaker 1: me being a white man in America calling an African
Speaker 1: American man in America, and I just like a lot
Speaker 1: of you have probably done this last week. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to know, Hey, as a white man, what can
Speaker 1: I do? And Jesse and I talked for a while,
Speaker 1: and I think, as a white man, you I'll speak
Speaker 1: for myself. This is a very uncomfortable topic. This is
Speaker 1: a very hard topic to talk about because I don't
Speaker 1: feel like this is my fight. I don't feel like, hey,
Speaker 1: I should pick up this cause because I will never
Speaker 1: understand what it's like to be pulled over in my
Speaker 1: car because I fit a description. I will never know
Speaker 1: what it's like to job through a neighborhood. I jobbed
Speaker 1: all the time, and job through a neighborhood and have
Speaker 1: people looking out the window or walk inside when I
Speaker 1: go by. I'll never know what it's like when my
Speaker 1: son's born, to not be accepted into a school, or
Speaker 1: have to work harder to be accepted into that school
Speaker 1: because the color of his skin. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to talk about that because
Speaker 1: it's very uncomfortable. And after talking to Jesse, I talked
Speaker 1: to a lot a lot of people this past week
Speaker 1: of all different ages, of all different occupations, and I
Speaker 1: just talked in the one common and thread with all
Speaker 1: of this was as a white man in America right now,
Speaker 1: I need to speak up. I need to speak up
Speaker 1: and say I'm tired of this, Like these are my friends,
Speaker 1: these are my co workers, these are people that I
Speaker 1: care about. And I never realized that that's important. And
Speaker 1: you know, talking to people and starting those uncomfortable conversations,
Speaker 1: I learned a lot this week. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of things that I learned I didn't realize. As African
Speaker 1: American families, you teach your kids when you get pulled
Speaker 1: over by the police, you put your hands on the
Speaker 1: steering wheel, and when the police walk up, you say
Speaker 1: your name and you say your address. You have conversations
Speaker 1: at home about hey, when you get in school, this
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen when you get older. And
Speaker 1: it was very eye opening and it hurt, and I
Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, if you do anything this week,
Speaker 1: take the time to get to know somebody, black, white, Hispanic,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Take the time what's going on right
Speaker 1: now in America and just talk to people. Get to
Speaker 1: know who they are, get to know their troubles, get
Speaker 1: to know what pains they're going through and what things
Speaker 1: they're going through, because I think right now, we need
Speaker 1: to understand each other. The only way we're going to
Speaker 1: fix this problem is to really understand what the problem is.
Speaker 1: And I learned so much this week. And it's hard,
Speaker 1: and as a white man, it is very uncomfortable. But
Speaker 1: once you start, it gets a little easier and easier
Speaker 1: and easier, and then you realize that your voice doesn't
Speaker 1: make a difference. And Jesse told me, he said, Hey,
Speaker 1: what I need you to do is I need you
Speaker 1: to stand up and we need your help. We've been
Speaker 1: we've been yelling this for years and years and years,
Speaker 1: and it's not doing any good. We need you, Shannon,
Speaker 1: as a white man, stand up and stand beside us
Speaker 1: and say hey, I've got a voice in this and
Speaker 1: when you're not around, I need to represent you and
Speaker 1: I need to speak up when I see injustice and
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm saying that on the show.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm not trying to preach. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying what's in my heart. And hopefully, throughout all this
Speaker 1: tragedy and everything that's going on, we can learn to
Speaker 1: understand each other and we can make society better. And Jesse,
Speaker 1: thank you for talking to me. Nate, I know I
Speaker 1: talked to you this week too. I talk to a
Speaker 1: lot of people that I work with, I talk to
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are friends of mine, and
Speaker 1: I just I want to say thank you to everybody
Speaker 1: that took the time to sit down and give me
Speaker 1: a few minutes and just and have real, honest conversations.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where all this starts. I think
Speaker 1: that's where making this better starts, is just talking and
Speaker 1: getting to know people. And you know, thank you guys
Speaker 1: for letting I know you guys didn't know I was
Speaker 1: doing this. Thank you for letting me hijack the show
Speaker 1: for a few minutes. I know it's not about football,
Speaker 1: but I think that's what makes the show so great,
Speaker 1: is like it's not always about football. It's just it's
Speaker 1: about people. It's about our callers, it's about our listeners.
Speaker 1: It's about everybody. We're a family, like we really care
Speaker 1: about the people that listen to this show, and I
Speaker 1: care about you guys, and I want to make a difference.
Speaker 1: So anything I can do to help, anything I can
Speaker 1: do to try and make a difference, I'm here to
Speaker 1: do that. So thank you, guys for giving me a
Speaker 1: few minutes to talk about this. Thank you, Thank you man,
Speaker 1: thank you for your courage, thank you for your words,
Speaker 1: thank you for your actions. And you know, you and
Speaker 1: I had a really good, deep conversation, and so this
Speaker 1: means a lot to me as a black man, as
Speaker 1: your friend. And I hope people heard you. I heard.
Speaker 1: I hope that's the thing. I hope people heard you.
Speaker 1: We've we've struggled with that for years of listening but hearing,
Speaker 1: but not listening. I hope that it penetrated people's hearts.
Speaker 1: I hope people penetrate people mind and they too want
Speaker 1: to take the same steps action steps that you have
Speaker 1: taken and will continue to take from this point going forward.
Speaker 1: So thank you for using your platform and using your
Speaker 1: voice to help to help me to help the people
Speaker 1: in our community. So thank you, Shannon, Hey brother, appreciate
Speaker 1: you man. Just keep doing what you do. Man. And like,
Speaker 1: my biggest thing right now is that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell people don't forget. Don't forget, because that is what
Speaker 1: we've done. You've always said, Okay, this has happened. What
Speaker 1: about the you know, what can we do to move on?
Speaker 1: What we can do to move on, and this is
Speaker 1: for all races, is to make sure that we vote
Speaker 1: for the right people locally, statewide and nationally, vote for
Speaker 1: the right people that artists and trying to put things
Speaker 1: in place that cares about America as a hold and
Speaker 1: not just a segment. That is where we've missed the mark.
Speaker 1: We have to come together as a whole. What is
Speaker 1: good for Kurt, what is good for Chris, what is
Speaker 1: good for Shannon, what is good for Jesse, what is
Speaker 1: good for Nate? Will be to be to compromise so
Speaker 1: that everybody can live as a whole. Thanks Shannon, I mean,
Speaker 1: all right, it's inspiring. I appreciate you doing that. I've
Speaker 1: taken smaller steps. I'm talking to my children, trying to
Speaker 1: educate myself, learn more, but I admit I need to
Speaker 1: step out more, talk to people. I appreciate your guys
Speaker 1: and the opportunity to debate with you each week, and
Speaker 1: I wish you could do it more often. But thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you all to all of you, Thank you Shanna
Speaker 1: for stepping up. Chris, I got something you want to say, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, man, you got tears in your guys,
Speaker 1: Come on, baby something man. Hey, Chris, I could tell
Speaker 1: where you was going. I can tell when you called
Speaker 1: me this fast weekend. I told my wife, I said,
Speaker 1: Chris got something to say. So when you came with that,
Speaker 1: I knew. Probably Jesse knew where you was going with this.
Speaker 1: We call Chris Shannon. I'm sorry. I just y'all, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: he's serious. Sorry, I do you want to break thice
Speaker 1: fellas y'all sitting there looking sad, bro, This is a
Speaker 1: great moment, not a sad mom. This is a great moment. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right. I appreciate it, guys, and I love this show.
Speaker 1: I love getting on here with you every week, and
Speaker 1: when we get back in the UH in the office,
Speaker 1: I look forward to, UH, let's go break bread at
Speaker 1: some point and talk about some real issues outside of
Speaker 1: sports and see how we can get together and try
Speaker 1: to make a difference. So Chris Stakes for keeping us.
Speaker 1: So there we go. Hey, we will don't worry. Chris
Speaker 1: Stakes for keeping us on the air. Kurt, stay strong,
Speaker 1: Brother Nate, Jesse, love you guys. Thanks for hanging out.
Speaker 1: We will be back next Monday, right here, hanging with
Speaker 1: the boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys
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