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Speaker 1: Wings Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley,

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Speaker 1: and Shannon Gross. We are live. It's Monday, and that

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Speaker 1: can only mean one thing. Hanging with the Boys live

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Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage living Room in Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 1: for another episode of some hard hitting sports journalism. Just kidding,

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Speaker 1: it's just us. We're back and we're here to take

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Speaker 1: over your airwaves for one hour, maybe more. There's so

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Speaker 1: much going on that there's some shows that we come

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Speaker 1: in the off season. We got to talk about there's

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Speaker 1: some training camp news that's going on. Kurt's got some

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Speaker 1: We've got more DAK talk. Would it be a week

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Speaker 1: of the off season without us talking about Dak. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this roster, what veterans need to

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Speaker 1: prove themselves. And this does not happen very often, fellas,

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Speaker 1: But I have something to say. I'm gonna save that

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Speaker 1: momentous occasion because I very seldom have an opinion or

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Speaker 1: something to say, So we'll get to that later. So

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Speaker 1: you guys, all you fans, hang in there for the

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Speaker 1: whole hour and listen to me say something. How you doing, Fellas,

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Speaker 1: what's happening? What's up man, fellas? Glad to be good weekend?

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Speaker 1: Good weekend. I hate when this dude trying to prep

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Speaker 1: us or whatever it is that entity show. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: all of reaction. The whole show is what do you

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Speaker 1: got to tell us? Chimp, Jesse, good to see you, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: good to see you, Chris, thanks for setting us up. Hey, Shannon, Hey,

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Speaker 1: do you have to tell us later? Nan, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to Nate, You're gonna have to stay on the

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Speaker 1: whole show with us to hear what I have to say,

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Speaker 1: because I'm saving it for the end. But now, right now,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about training camp. I have my

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Speaker 1: This was the first time I ever went to training

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Speaker 1: camp out in California. Was this year? Back in two

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's still official, but it's being reported

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Speaker 1: by several several sources. They will have training camp and

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Speaker 1: what it appears to be Frisco. And then Kurt, some

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Speaker 1: it is official that they can't go anywhere for training camp.

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Speaker 1: NFL said they had to stay at their home facilities,

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Speaker 1: so they will be in Frisco. And then the NFL

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Speaker 1: training facility. And this doesn't necessarily mean training camp. This

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Speaker 1: just means ahead of time when they first come back,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be required. The lockers have to be

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Speaker 1: They have to rotate in. They can't have everybody in

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Speaker 1: They can't have in person meetings with large groups. I

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Speaker 1: least there's some progress being made. Looks like they're getting

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Speaker 1: I like it because and I make Nate, you'll have

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Speaker 1: they're taking because as someone who's been in the NFL

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Speaker 1: locker room, and you understand that is the filthiest place

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Speaker 1: you right here, fellas, Uh, what I said off air,

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Speaker 1: I cannot argue that point. As as former players, how

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Speaker 1: You'd be you'd be up on the one calls, one

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Speaker 1: Please thank you, so you already you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So now whole headphone up, Nate, did your phone I

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Speaker 1: But Jesse, you know, like the rest of you guys know,

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Speaker 1: to one became what you said, Jesse, it's about making

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Speaker 1: Their summer has just gotten a lot better because Mike

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Speaker 1: mccordy and Bucket all those guys. They don't have to

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Speaker 1: And for those of you that don't know, they literally

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about da Michael Irvin had some interesting comments.

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Speaker 1: with twenty seconds in the show left. Oh fellas Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: It we cannot stop talking about Dak Prescott. It seems

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Speaker 1: like every week there's some other comments, some new comments.

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Speaker 1: Something's going on now, it's Michael Irvin chiming in Kurt.

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Speaker 1: Michael had some things to say. I believe it was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: What did Michael have to say about Dak in his situation. Well,

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Speaker 1: he basically said, paying the money, you know, he said,

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Speaker 1: he's he's deserving of being the highest paid quarterback right now.

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Speaker 1: I won't last long once myhomes was signed. But and

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Speaker 1: he said that Cowboys have been so fortunate and they've

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Speaker 1: got four years out of him for you know, minimal pay,

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Speaker 1: far far less than what he's worth. So it's now

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Speaker 1: it's time to you know, pay them in I guess.

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Speaker 1: So he'll get paid. It's just some matter of when

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Speaker 1: they can work this out. And you had a so

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Speaker 1: there was a mail back question that you sent me

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Speaker 1: that's really kind of interesting and I never thought of

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Speaker 1: it this way. Go into that a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So the sticking point seems to be that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dak wants a four year deal so he can get

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Speaker 1: the open market again quicker, and the Cowboys are pushing

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Speaker 1: more for five and so, but is he hurting himself

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Speaker 1: in the long run perhaps because say he plays under

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Speaker 1: this franchise tag and then the Cowboys next year, Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe they do sign him for four they've wound up

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Speaker 1: getting him five years regardless, and they've had to pay

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Speaker 1: him less that first year. I mean, in some ways

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Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, is it like the lottery? You

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Speaker 1: never asked for the deferred payments for the lottery. You

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Speaker 1: want the lump sum right now. You want as much

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Speaker 1: money as you can get right now. Is he I

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Speaker 1: understand he's betting on himself and he's hoping for a

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Speaker 1: big payday. But the other the flip side of that

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Speaker 1: coin is is he leaving money on the ta able

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Speaker 1: now that you know he may not get down the road? No?

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Speaker 1: I think I think go ahead day. I was just

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Speaker 1: gonna say it, and I think in the mail back

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Speaker 1: year deal, if you take the tag this year and

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Speaker 1: play under that next year, does that four year deal

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Speaker 1: become a three year deal because you're delaying it a year?

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Speaker 1: Or is it a four year deal again on the

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Speaker 1: table that actually winds up being five because you're getting

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Speaker 1: tagged this year? You push, you push back your open

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Speaker 1: market anyway, you know, right, I don't think he loses

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Speaker 1: the money. I think. I think if he if he's

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Speaker 1: franchised this year, I think how he makes that money up.

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Speaker 1: If he's like, well he's gonna play for less well

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Speaker 1: next year. If after a good a deal done, the

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Speaker 1: prices went up because Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson have

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Speaker 1: gotten their deals, and if for any reason he takes

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Speaker 1: this team to an NFC Championship game or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and I was, price goes up even more. So he's

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Speaker 1: going he's gonna eventually get that. And then he may

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Speaker 1: play hardball and say no, now I just want a

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Speaker 1: three year deal. I want a three year deal at

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Speaker 1: a much higher rate than was before. But I think

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Speaker 1: the money part of this thing, whether it's franchise year

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Speaker 1: this year and the four year deal after that or

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Speaker 1: four year deal this year, and how they handle it

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Speaker 1: after that, the money part. He's going to get his payday, like,

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Speaker 1: he's going to get that money one way or another,

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Speaker 1: by hook or by cook, and only has to do

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Speaker 1: is keep playing the way that he's been playing. And

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Speaker 1: this team continues to progress and we think that they

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Speaker 1: can do what they're supposed to do with the new

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. I think it's it's it's almost delayed punishment,

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Speaker 1: pocketbook punishment for the Cowboys. It's either either do it

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Speaker 1: now or you're gonna have to do it later when

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Speaker 1: it's going to cost you more. Because if you're believing

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Speaker 1: that this team can do some powerful things with him

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Speaker 1: at the helm and this coaching staff, that means that

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Speaker 1: means now he's going to add to his resume another

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Speaker 1: forty five hundred to five thousand yards season, another twenty

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Speaker 1: five plus touchdown type season. And if he then carries

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Speaker 1: his team deeper into the playoffs than he has in

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Speaker 1: any of his previous seasons, well, now all of you've done.

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Speaker 1: Now I'll come back to the table and I go, well,

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Speaker 1: now you gotta pay me more because I've done this,

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Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, the market has changed again.

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Speaker 1: So that's That's that Russian roulette chicken game that you're playing.

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Speaker 1: Is that if he continues on his trajectory again this year.

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Speaker 1: This year he broked all of his personal records, more touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: more yards, more completions, more, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: If he does that again next year, or even kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, does the same thing equivalent to what

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Speaker 1: he did this year next year and they go deeper

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I'm back at the table again, and

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, not a number goes up again, because you

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Speaker 1: had a chance to give me less money last year

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Speaker 1: and before the market had changed, and before I took

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Speaker 1: our team to the divisional championship or you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: divisional championship, a super Bowl or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: Now you gotta pay me more because of those things.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is just right here is He's not

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Speaker 1: missing nothing. Okay. He came into the league a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick. Everybody because everybody just wants to be greedy.

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Speaker 1: He said, He's been sensible in his own mind, saying, okay,

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Speaker 1: thirty one point four million dollars, Okay, is that not

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Speaker 1: a lot of money? So so what if they if

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Speaker 1: the if they if the cap moves back, So what

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Speaker 1: if if Deshan Watson don't sign, It's still gonna go

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Speaker 1: to thirty nine million next year And we'll be having

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Speaker 1: the same conversation if this kid is made up in

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Speaker 1: his mind with his representatives that I am good. Well, Matt, Now,

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Speaker 1: we as fans and as analysts had that right to

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Speaker 1: speculating and play the you know, the what if game.

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Speaker 1: But the what if game is similar. If we have

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Speaker 1: to start at thirty one point four million dollars, he's

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Speaker 1: not good at that? Can you right now? Vast you

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Speaker 1: five guys even we split this up five ways account

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Speaker 1: and Chris Bean, will we not be all right for

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Speaker 1: the rest of our line? Yeah? Where do I sign? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So it's like, uh, I tried all of this. All

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Speaker 1: of this benefits the Dallas Cowboys. If they can get

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Speaker 1: him signed, that is good. See, that's that's if you

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Speaker 1: ever put in your mind and thinks that, man, that

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Speaker 1: is good. He's okay. He just gave a million dollars

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Speaker 1: to to to retrain a million dollars to a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick. Man. I could never give a million dollars, man,

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Speaker 1: But he gave a million dollars so to the police

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Speaker 1: force to retrain their people. Think now, and he ain't

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Speaker 1: even signed that one older of that thirty one million dollars,

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Speaker 1: He ain't touched it. Think about it now, Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess what I'm wondering again, is it he's obviously betting

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Speaker 1: on himself. And that's awesome. I think that's great. But

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Speaker 1: you look at We'll take Andy Dalton for example. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had his rookie deal age twenty seventh season, which

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Speaker 1: Dak is entering his age twenty seventh season. He signed

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Speaker 1: a big contract. I think it was like ninety million

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Speaker 1: dollars at the time. It wasn't a top ten contract,

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Speaker 1: but it was like ninety million dollars I think six years.

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Speaker 1: He signed a long term deal, so he got through that.

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Speaker 1: Now he's on that third contract. Now he's where Dak

625
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Speaker 1: wants to be in five years. This is where Andy

626
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Speaker 1: Dalton is now. He winds up signing a three million

627
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Speaker 1: dollars deal to be a backup. You know, Obviously his gamble,

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Speaker 1: if you want to call it, that didn't pay off,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's maybe the risk is Dak is

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Speaker 1: betting on himself. But you know he got he got

631
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Speaker 1: ninety million dollars. An I'm saying obviously paid off for him.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna pay off for Dak. But Dak's looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that third contract. No. See, that's that's where we

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Speaker 1: that's you don't think here landing a head at third contract. No, No,

635
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Speaker 1: what Dak is planning for is to get this contract.

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Speaker 1: He just wants to make sure he is comfortable. See,

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Speaker 1: in our minds, we were we were in our minds,

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Speaker 1: we were projecting oh Man to the third contract. No,

639
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Speaker 1: what Dak is saying is I want a four year

640
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: deal now, right, So so if he'll make more money,

641
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: thing gets a five year deal. Hi, he'll make the

642
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: money now if he gets a five year deal. No, No,

643
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: he'll make more money if he gets a four year

644
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: deal because he's betting on the third contract and don't

645
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: on this contract. He's betting on this contract. He is saying,

646
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: give me a four year deal right right now? Right?

647
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: You know, see this is saying this. This is the

648
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: only this is the only thing that's that's that's messed

649
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: up about this. If he gets injured, that's the only thing.

650
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: But he's well, he's trying to get is this contract.

651
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to get. See we want to say, Okay,

652
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: he's trying to get he want to re up with

653
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: everybody else when whenever, when Rogers come up, when this

654
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: guy come up, when this guy, well he the guys

655
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be dealing with, Deshaun Watson and the

656
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: Kenny Casey, they're gonna get five year deals because they're

657
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna get these contracts done before the season over with,

658
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: So he's still not gonna be coming up with them,

659
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna be coming up behind them before them excused him.

660
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: So what Dark is trying to do if you can

661
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: lock him Whitney here, he's trying to get this contract

662
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: done and he walked four years. Yeah, but I'm I know,

663
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: I know he wants four years now, but why wouldn't

664
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Speaker 1: he if he wants to paint they now, why wouldn't

665
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: he take five years and more money? But black white?

666
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: He can't take four years and get and get all

667
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: his money. Now, see, I see you don't know what

668
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: this man has asked for. Maybe Jared him say we

669
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: would give you five years and we would give you

670
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: thirty seven per year, and this man may say, nah,

671
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: I want four years for thirty seven right now? Ye

672
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: see that's we don't know what's happening. And unless you

673
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: got an inside scoop now to share with us, Kurt,

674
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: you got sorry. Okay. We keep hearing that mister Jones

675
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 1: and his party wants to do a five year deal

676
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: so to help the cap, they'll know where they're at

677
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: and they can project. See everybody's talking about what Dak's

678
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: trying to do. What is mister Jones and his group

679
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: trying to do. They're trying to stabilize and project where

680
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: they need to be. That you could do what you

681
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: need to do. But I need four years right now

682
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: at this amount. We don't know that amount. He could

683
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: be asking for forty a year. You don't know, true,

684
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: you don't know what I get what you're saying. Kurt,

685
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: And and for Andy, I think he he gambled on

686
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: himself and loss. I mean he's he thought he thought

687
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: staying he thought thing in Cincinnati and with that or

688
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: that lineup and that coaching staff, and I mean he

689
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: had some good players around him. He had aj Green,

690
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: he had them, he had the Titan running back and forth,

691
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: the tighting. He got hurt. So he thought that there

692
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: were some pieces in there, and you know that place

693
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: where he drafted him at. I think I think Dak

694
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: is seeing the same thing. I think Dak is seeing

695
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: the fact that man, I got a really good team.

696
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: But I also understand that if I can get back

697
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: to the table, because honestly, in a four year deal, right,

698
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: if he signs a four year deal in essence, in essence,

699
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: he could come back to the table in three in Essex.

700
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: He can come back to the table in three because

701
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: if in that first three years he does something monumental

702
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: like win a super Bowl, when I get to year three,

703
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know what, I've given you a super

704
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: Bowl and now I kind of don't even want to

705
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: get to your floor anymore. Let's let's reegrotiate this thing

706
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: before I even get to year fourth. They were but

707
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: mister Jones and Steven will come to him because they said, oh,

708
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: let's don't wait. We screwed this up the last time

709
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: because they had a contract that was ready to be

710
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: signed last year and and it got out of and

711
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: it got kind of and they and dact them forced

712
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: the hand and they kind of just went went solid

713
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: on them, so they that if that thing happened, But

714
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: this is, this is the deal is we can project

715
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: and we can do whatever we want. The bottom line

716
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: is that he is trying to secure this contract and

717
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: when next year comes, he's gonna be trying to steal

718
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they don't they let him play

719
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: through this tag, he gonna be trying to secure this

720
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: contract that you don't have to You don't have to

721
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: worry about a third contract if but you have to

722
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: worry about that sounds like a lot of people, A

723
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: lot of people don't. Have you heard Dak people say that?

724
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: Have you heard Dad say that? We just only people

725
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: that we've known that have said something is Missus Jones

726
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: and his party. So, but were speculate? Okay? The only

727
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: thing that most of us do know where eighty percent

728
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: certainly is this kid want four years? So now we're

729
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: tagging on everything else. We're okay, he want why, Well

730
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: let me I'm assume this, and I don't assume that.

731
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that that trying to get these four years.

732
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: That's what I'm assuming, right, Kurt? I love you like

733
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Speaker 1: your hat looking good? You look at Jimmy, You look

734
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: at Jimmy Johnson that you see that just out of

735
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: as sticking up? Yeah? Hey what a minute? I like

736
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Speaker 1: I like to debate, though, Kurts, that's real, sweet babe.

737
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: What do you what do you guys think? I know

738
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: none of us have any kind of inside you dog

739
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: going on thing like that. That's mine. Sorry, I know

740
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: none of us, even your dog agree. What what is

741
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: y'all's gut feeling? Do y'all think he's gonna wind up

742
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: getting tagged, or do you think as this thing gets

743
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: like so many times with the Cowboys, he gets down

744
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: to hey, gets down to the wire, they finally get

745
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: to the table and they come up with the deal.

746
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: What is y'all's gut feeling? You think this thing will

747
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: get done? Or do you think that plays under the

748
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: tag this season? I think it gets done. How do two?

749
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: I think it will? Hey, four years our tag? Baby?

750
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: That fifth year is so that fifth year is so

751
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: over the top. Didn't like, bro, that's the that's the

752
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: that's the messes up. That fifth year is so over

753
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: the top. But we know how that go. If that

754
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: fifth year is so over the top, he's never getting

755
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: to that fifth year, like even in the non't come

756
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: back out that Like they're gonna give him that fifth

757
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: year and that money gonna be so large. Think like,

758
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: ain't away in the world. We we're gonna have to

759
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: redo this dude. But that's what I'm saying. You got

760
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: to knock these dudes socks off. So what you think, Nate,

761
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 1: is it gonna get done or nah, man, they're gonna

762
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: tag him up for the rest of the year. I

763
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: mean that tag is easy to continue to tag once

764
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: you tag. It's easy to continue to tag you. And

765
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: I keep saying to myself, this dude is a fourth

766
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: round pick who's all of a sudden, less than three

767
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: in less than four years, is considered a top depending

768
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: on who you're talking to, a top ten quarterback. If

769
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: you go through the top ten quarterbacks, you're gonna put

770
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: that somewhere real close to that. So now you went

771
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: from a fourth round pick who's making millions of dollars

772
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: off the field. So the same thing that everybody wanted

773
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: him to take less for is what he relying on.

774
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: Now He's supplemented everything right now, like, hey man, I

775
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: just made five plant five meal off off off this

776
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: thing I just did this year. So the same thing

777
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: that everybody wanted him to take less from he is

778
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: using so he can go fun. So I'm telling you, Kurt,

779
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. You're looking good. Baby. Hey, I

780
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: just hey. I want him I want him to I

781
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: want him to bet on himself. I want him to

782
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. I want him to earn that

783
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: big third contract. I don't want him to wind up

784
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith and you know here are yeah, but

785
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: you have thirty one beans, baby, you know, but he

786
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: could have had, He could have had thirty seven, th forty.

787
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: You know whatever, Hey, brother, I'm tell you whatever they're

788
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: trying to do is gonna lord his cap here. So

789
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: it ain't that they trying to go hire and and

790
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: the thing that is that that is amazing about all

791
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: this man gives us good clean conversation. Yes it does.

792
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: We're back talking about da. We're back talking about Dak

793
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: and Dak father saying thank you, thank you, Nate, thank you.

794
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: Did you see that ESPN story came out this morning?

795
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: They they did a mock draft using every player in

796
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: the NFL, so it could be Tom Brady or it

797
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: could be Joe Burrows. Everybody's available. They pick Dak ninth overall.

798
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: Wow you think that? And the more they take Dak

799
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: the more the more Dak is saying thank you. And

800
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: it's aged Jared. Did you see that? Jared Like, yeah,

801
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: we saw that. But we're sticking without five years. Stephen,

802
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: get the phone, So Stephen is the one years. Hey,

803
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: do you think if Dak won a Super Bowl he

804
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: would have a contract sitting on the table at the

805
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: after partner man, this is the Cowboys, Yes, sir, absolutely,

806
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: he'd have a contract and I'm blank check write your

807
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: number in there. Championship to this franchise. Right now, I'm

808
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: telling you this, you can take Dallas and just take

809
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Speaker 1: it off of the map because it's gonna it's gonna

810
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: be out of this world if that happens. I'm telling

811
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Speaker 1: commercial with missus back in David, Missus Jones to be

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Speaker 1: doing flips and Breakdas and you get better, bro height fellas.

813
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: Let's take our last break, Nate. I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 1: thank you everybody. Hey, Chris Bean, take us all off day.

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Speaker 1: Back to Hanging with the Boys. Welcome back, final segment

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Speaker 1: to the final segment of this show. We've done this

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Speaker 1: show probably for about three or four years now, and

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Speaker 1: finally I have something to say on this show. So

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00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: you guys should be very proud of me. I very

871
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Speaker 1: rarely have an opinion or an original point of view,

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Speaker 1: and today I finally have one. The one thing that

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Speaker 1: I actually really love about our show is when we

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00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: started this thing, however many years ago, we wanted this

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Speaker 1: to be a conversation. We just wanted to be a conversation.

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00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: We wanted the fans to feel like they were just

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Speaker 1: sitting around having a beer with us at the bar,

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00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: or kicking it in the living room or whatever, and

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00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: we're just talking sports. There's very little, if any prep

880
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: that goes into this show. We don't have production meetings.

881
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: If there's any preparation, that's Kurt send to me a

882
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: list of ideas that sometimes we get to them. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: we don't sometimes we go this direction, sometimes we go

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Speaker 1: this direction, and it's really it's really a microcosm of life.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all come from very different backgrounds. We

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Speaker 1: all were of all ages. We we've you know, all

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Speaker 1: done various types of jobs. We're from different parts of

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Speaker 1: the country, and you know, I really enjoy that. And

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Speaker 1: we all respect each other. We may not always agree,

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Speaker 1: but we always respect each other. We always listen to

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Speaker 1: another points of view, and we you know, sometimes we

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Speaker 1: challenge each other. And that's you know, that's the same

893
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: thing as in life. You don't have to agree with everybody,

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Speaker 1: but you know, respect people. And with the things that

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Speaker 1: have been going on the last you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks in the world, and we kind of brushed

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Speaker 1: on it a little bit and kind of didn't talk

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Speaker 1: about it a whole lot. Last Monday, and for some reason,

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00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the country has really really

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00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: been weighing on me for the last week. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's if it's guilt, I don't know, if

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00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: it's if it's just helplessness, I don't it's anger, I know.

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00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: If it's anger, I don't know, if it's because I'm

904
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm soon we'll be bringing a son into this world.

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Speaker 1: But it really, it's really bothered me all week. And

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Speaker 1: then after the show on Monday, I called Jesse and

907
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: I called Jesse as a friend. I called Jesse as

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Speaker 1: me being a white man in America calling an African

909
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Speaker 1: American man in America, and I just like a lot

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Speaker 1: of you have probably done this last week. I just

911
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Speaker 1: wanted to know, Hey, as a white man, what can

912
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Speaker 1: I do? And Jesse and I talked for a while,

913
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Speaker 1: and I think, as a white man, you I'll speak

914
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: for myself. This is a very uncomfortable topic. This is

915
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: a very hard topic to talk about because I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like this is my fight. I don't feel like, hey,

917
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: I should pick up this cause because I will never

918
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Speaker 1: understand what it's like to be pulled over in my

919
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: car because I fit a description. I will never know

920
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Speaker 1: what it's like to job through a neighborhood. I jobbed

921
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Speaker 1: all the time, and job through a neighborhood and have

922
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: people looking out the window or walk inside when I

923
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Speaker 1: go by. I'll never know what it's like when my

924
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Speaker 1: son's born, to not be accepted into a school, or

925
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Speaker 1: have to work harder to be accepted into that school

926
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Speaker 1: because the color of his skin. I don't understand that.

927
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Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to talk about that because

928
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Speaker 1: it's very uncomfortable. And after talking to Jesse, I talked

929
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Speaker 1: to a lot a lot of people this past week

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Speaker 1: of all different ages, of all different occupations, and I

931
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Speaker 1: just talked in the one common and thread with all

932
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Speaker 1: of this was as a white man in America right now,

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Speaker 1: I need to speak up. I need to speak up

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Speaker 1: and say I'm tired of this, Like these are my friends,

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Speaker 1: these are my co workers, these are people that I

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Speaker 1: care about. And I never realized that that's important. And

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Speaker 1: you know, talking to people and starting those uncomfortable conversations,

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot this week. There are a lot

939
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Speaker 1: of things that I learned I didn't realize. As African

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Speaker 1: American families, you teach your kids when you get pulled

941
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Speaker 1: over by the police, you put your hands on the

942
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Speaker 1: steering wheel, and when the police walk up, you say

943
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Speaker 1: your name and you say your address. You have conversations

944
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Speaker 1: at home about hey, when you get in school, this

945
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen when you get older. And

946
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: it was very eye opening and it hurt, and I

947
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, if you do anything this week,

948
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Speaker 1: take the time to get to know somebody, black, white, Hispanic,

949
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Take the time what's going on right

950
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: now in America and just talk to people. Get to

951
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: know who they are, get to know their troubles, get

952
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: to know what pains they're going through and what things

953
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: they're going through, because I think right now, we need

954
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: to understand each other. The only way we're going to

955
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Speaker 1: fix this problem is to really understand what the problem is.

956
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Speaker 1: And I learned so much this week. And it's hard,

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Speaker 1: and as a white man, it is very uncomfortable. But

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Speaker 1: once you start, it gets a little easier and easier

959
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: and easier, and then you realize that your voice doesn't

960
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: make a difference. And Jesse told me, he said, Hey,

961
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Speaker 1: what I need you to do is I need you

962
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Speaker 1: to stand up and we need your help. We've been

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: we've been yelling this for years and years and years,

964
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Speaker 1: and it's not doing any good. We need you, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: as a white man, stand up and stand beside us

966
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Speaker 1: and say hey, I've got a voice in this and

967
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: when you're not around, I need to represent you and

968
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: I need to speak up when I see injustice and

969
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm saying that on the show.

970
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm not trying to preach. I'm just

971
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: saying what's in my heart. And hopefully, throughout all this

972
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: tragedy and everything that's going on, we can learn to

973
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: understand each other and we can make society better. And Jesse,

974
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: thank you for talking to me. Nate, I know I

975
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: talked to you this week too. I talk to a

976
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Speaker 1: lot of people that I work with, I talk to

977
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that are friends of mine, and

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Speaker 1: I just I want to say thank you to everybody

979
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: that took the time to sit down and give me

980
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: a few minutes and just and have real, honest conversations.

981
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: And I think that's where all this starts. I think

982
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: that's where making this better starts, is just talking and

983
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: getting to know people. And you know, thank you guys

984
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: for letting I know you guys didn't know I was

985
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: doing this. Thank you for letting me hijack the show

986
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: for a few minutes. I know it's not about football,

987
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: but I think that's what makes the show so great,

988
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: is like it's not always about football. It's just it's

989
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: about people. It's about our callers, it's about our listeners.

990
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: It's about everybody. We're a family, like we really care

991
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: about the people that listen to this show, and I

992
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: care about you guys, and I want to make a difference.

993
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: So anything I can do to help, anything I can

994
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: do to try and make a difference, I'm here to

995
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: do that. So thank you, guys for giving me a

996
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 1: few minutes to talk about this. Thank you, Thank you man,

997
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: thank you for your courage, thank you for your words,

998
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: thank you for your actions. And you know, you and

999
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: I had a really good, deep conversation, and so this

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00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: means a lot to me as a black man, as

1001
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: your friend. And I hope people heard you. I heard.

1002
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: I hope that's the thing. I hope people heard you.

1003
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: We've we've struggled with that for years of listening but hearing,

1004
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: but not listening. I hope that it penetrated people's hearts.

1005
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: I hope people penetrate people mind and they too want

1006
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: to take the same steps action steps that you have

1007
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: taken and will continue to take from this point going forward.

1008
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: So thank you for using your platform and using your

1009
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: voice to help to help me to help the people

1010
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: in our community. So thank you, Shannon, Hey brother, appreciate

1011
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: you man. Just keep doing what you do. Man. And like,

1012
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: my biggest thing right now is that I'm trying to

1013
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: tell people don't forget. Don't forget, because that is what

1014
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: we've done. You've always said, Okay, this has happened. What

1015
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: about the you know, what can we do to move on?

1016
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: What we can do to move on, and this is

1017
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: for all races, is to make sure that we vote

1018
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: for the right people locally, statewide and nationally, vote for

1019
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: the right people that artists and trying to put things

1020
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: in place that cares about America as a hold and

1021
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: not just a segment. That is where we've missed the mark.

1022
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: We have to come together as a whole. What is

1023
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: good for Kurt, what is good for Chris, what is

1024
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: good for Shannon, what is good for Jesse, what is

1025
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: good for Nate? Will be to be to compromise so

1026
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: that everybody can live as a whole. Thanks Shannon, I mean,

1027
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: all right, it's inspiring. I appreciate you doing that. I've

1028
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: taken smaller steps. I'm talking to my children, trying to

1029
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: educate myself, learn more, but I admit I need to

1030
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: step out more, talk to people. I appreciate your guys

1031
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: and the opportunity to debate with you each week, and

1032
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: I wish you could do it more often. But thank you,

1033
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: thank you all to all of you, Thank you Shanna

1034
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: for stepping up. Chris, I got something you want to say, baby,

1035
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, man, you got tears in your guys,

1036
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Come on, baby something man. Hey, Chris, I could tell

1037
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Speaker 1: where you was going. I can tell when you called

1038
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: me this fast weekend. I told my wife, I said,

1039
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: Chris got something to say. So when you came with that,

1040
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: I knew. Probably Jesse knew where you was going with this.

1041
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: We call Chris Shannon. I'm sorry. I just y'all, I'm sorry,

1042
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: he's serious. Sorry, I do you want to break thice

1043
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: fellas y'all sitting there looking sad, bro, This is a

1044
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: great moment, not a sad mom. This is a great moment. Okay,

1045
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: all right. I appreciate it, guys, and I love this show.

1046
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: I love getting on here with you every week, and

1047
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: when we get back in the UH in the office,

1048
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: I look forward to, UH, let's go break bread at

1049
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: some point and talk about some real issues outside of

1050
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: sports and see how we can get together and try

1051
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: to make a difference. So Chris Stakes for keeping us.

1052
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: So there we go. Hey, we will don't worry. Chris

1053
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: Stakes for keeping us on the air. Kurt, stay strong,

1054
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: Brother Nate, Jesse, love you guys. Thanks for hanging out.

1055
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: We will be back next Monday, right here, hanging with

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Speaker 1: the boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.