1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: And I would see jay z nas a big l 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: all the rappers freestyling and ciphers in front of the club. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: That's how we met Mace actually in the cipher on 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty fifth Street in front of the Mark. 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: It's your boy, Josse Antronio Hanna, Ah, your. 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Boy Jason, Terrence Philip. This is the Joe and. 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: Jaysen Show, brought to you by boost Mobile. Get the 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: whole block up. If you're going on a bus ride 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: of Kings Dominium, wherever you're going, get the whole bus 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: up mobile right Playland, Playland a boost bobile dot com. 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Get everybody won that, everybody with you on the whole bus. 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Hey, if you're a big ball out there in the hood, 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: just get the whole block boost Mobiles. That's what we're 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: doing it for. And Yo, shout out the cash At 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: just jumped on board cash Aat. We love you baby. 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: The Joe and Jadas Show. Listen, man, check this out. 17 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about hip hop the origins. Ah, how 18 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: hard it was for us to get in the game. 19 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know. See, I knew about the Warlocks, 20 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: I knew about y'all. Yeah, yeah, I knew about y'all 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: from day one, But what what was what you think 22 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: is the difference of then and now? Or rather you 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: just say how y'all got in the game, and I'll 24 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: explain how I got in the game, or terror squad. 25 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: Man evey way we any way, we cut and slice it. 26 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: It was still well we had to do to get here. 27 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: It was much harder. It was much harder and much 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: challenging just to be able to record music. Getting in 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: the game just didn't be find somebody. This is before 30 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: ever going in the studio. Just to find somebody that 31 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: had equipment to record some freestyles or record whatever you 32 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: had the right was like a task. It was only 33 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: it was it was only a fewel you know what 34 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean. So to past that stage and then into 35 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: going into the studio and finally, you know, recording some 36 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: music that you thought was good enough to pass to 37 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: the DJs or pass or a record executive, the journey 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: from just dead to day was crazy. 39 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: Well, a record executive is like it's impossible. Like like 40 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: when I first started rapping, I just thought it was 41 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm just rapping for the hood. I didn't think I 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: would ever get a record deal. Like I thought it 43 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: was like just be for the homies playing this shit. 44 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: I never thought, you know, shut out Keyboard Money, Mike. 45 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: It first got whoever with me on like Bronx Cable 46 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: and me and my brother told one time that we 47 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: used to watch that shit over and over again, Like 48 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: he'd be like, Yo, you're gonna blow one day. I'm 49 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: like blow, Like you know what I'm saying. So when 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: did you get close enough to where you felt like, oh, 51 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: I could give this person this mixtape and they could 52 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: get it into the proper hands. 53 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: We was actually it was a bunch of shit that happened. 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: But fast forward to the to the to the demo 55 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: that actually was the one that was able to get 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: past to Mary that eventually went to Puff's hands. We 57 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: was recorded in D and D D and D Studios. 58 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Wow, you got the D and D shot out Mary. 59 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: She was in the house last night. 60 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, MJ was up. Baby, we shot up. 61 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: We was in D and D. 62 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: However we got the bread to make it the D 63 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: and D and it was actually while Old was making 64 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: reasonable doubt. 65 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: He was there. 66 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in another room making reason with doubt 67 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: and we actually seen it was a pool. Remember that 68 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: you could play pool in there. 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: That's where fucking big Out threatened me and the enemy. 70 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I had to write the rhyme in his face. 71 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: That's we bumped into Jazzo in there and ended up 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: getting a beat from jazz O that went on our 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: demo that ended up actually being a song on Puff 74 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: No Way Out Out that sold ten million. So we 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: recorded a demo in D and D was we were 76 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: still wet behind the ears, but we felt like these 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: songs was good enough. Mary got a cousin that was 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: a part of our every day onto rage Jay Bob Jamarco, 79 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: so he was he kept them. We knew once we 80 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: got some songs good enough, we could get it to 81 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: him and he could get it to Mary. So that's 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: what we did. And she happened to be on tour 83 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: with Josy and and them, and she popped it in 84 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: I think on the tour bus and that was That 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: was our end before all other ship and that I'm 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: gonna tell you. 87 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy because shout out the D and D. 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: One time I beat the guy's breaks with your phone 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: with a red phone in D and D, just was 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: pounding them out with the phone. The old school phone 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: with the wire or a house phone. Nah. Yo. They 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: hated me forever since because it was like, you know, 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: D and D was like the fly studio, but I 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: had the juice. I was already fat. Joe my man 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, my girl, she in the studio with 96 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: these other rap guys. She was like, she's in D 97 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: and D and this this mom, Yo, when I tell 98 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: you who be out to see you? Go? Bug guy? 99 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, she in there with the dude. 100 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: So I had to use my face to get in there. 101 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, it's Joe Crack. They opened the door 102 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: and then we beat the brakes off this guy. And 103 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: they never liked they They who was it Dave? And 104 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the was it Dave and Mike? But anyway, man shout 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: out the D and D, D and D. One day 106 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: I saw Jay in there recording with OC. They had 107 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: this one song together. I was up in there and 108 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: they was rocking you. 109 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: D and D was like, if you made it to 110 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: D and D, you made it to that was like 111 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: the to get the recording D and D was He 112 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: felt like ended up mining D and D. 113 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: He ended up buying D and D and then you 114 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: had so the who's who was in there. It was 115 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: almost similar to like a Barbito a stretch, and so 116 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: I tell you a better one. I went to a 117 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: ron G mixed stake and I was going in and 118 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Biggie was coming out. I'm like, your big what's up 119 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: this this stall? 120 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: The shots by the shower? When he said that one, 121 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: we said the shot he is by the shower. You 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: try to shoot me while I'm shitting. 123 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't even know. 124 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: I'm telling you that run walking there that pocking big one. 125 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: I was there, so no, it wasn't Polo Grounds. It 126 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: was he had almost about up n y C. He 127 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: had a crib on a side drive, so it was 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: like right around from up n YC. So I'm walking 129 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: in there, Biggie Small's just walking out. I do a 130 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: freestyle and when I'm walking out, two Pocket is coming in. 131 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: So that was the type of shit we were happening 132 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: and stretching Barbito. When you hear the infamous we wouldn't 133 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: call it a battle, but the infamous freestyle were big 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: Al and jay Z. Barbito had an open door. That 135 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: shit was like a if you fucked up Barbito and 136 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: stretches like they had everybody coming in the craziest guys 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: you could think of. The door was always open, and 138 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: so that's when they had that legendary I wouldn't say battle, 139 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: but it was big Al and jay Z in there 140 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: like Pun, you know, Pun broke through uh stretching barbito. 141 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: But this this before in the morning. You gotta wait. 142 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: You might go there one night and the whole Wu 143 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Tang Klan is in there, thirteen deep, freestyling for twenty hours, 144 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: and then you might get the last ten minutes to 145 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: play your new demo in there like like this. 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: Speaking the mixtapes, I got the story. Do you remember this? 147 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know how we all ended up. What's 148 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: the first you know, fifty fourth Sony and Hit Factories 149 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: in the middle. We was in Sony, all of us, 150 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: some me, you was richer Rory No, no, no, we was, 151 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: we was, We was already who we were. It's still 152 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: it's still the earth. This is nineties early Sony. So listened, 153 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: we in we in there me you know the locks, 154 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Joe Crack Nori, some other artists, clue Is. Did y'all 155 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: put pressure on him? You felt he was putting your 156 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: songs too far down? The thing like because in the mixtape, 157 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: if you wasn't in a certain if, then he'll put 158 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: you in a certain part of the tape. 159 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: When they put you number twenty eight, twenty. 160 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: Six, it's like that's the Ultimasius Scott. Nobody's listening to that. 161 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: So you seeing me, I've seen it was. I don't 162 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: even I don't even remember how we all end up. 163 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: We wasn't recording like a wee all the world and 164 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: none of that for everybody to be there. But it 165 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: happened to be mad artist and Clue and y'all put 166 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: a little pressure on Clue, like your clue, why the 167 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: fuck you keep making my shaws number twenty something? Inn 168 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: and a good thing. We was able to We worked 169 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: that out. 170 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, I saw Biggie. Biggie Clue hates the story, 171 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: but I gotta say my brother one of them bigs. 172 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: I was in Club USA, by the way, that was 173 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: the flyest club ever. When Biggie came up to me 174 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: at that the Derringer, he had the twenty two diligence, Like, yo, 175 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: you've seen clue. I swear to god, I just saw 176 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: a clue. He was like, yo, you've seen clue. He 177 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: put my shit on the tape. I'm gonna go get 178 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I ain't see him, and I 179 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: just saw Clue walk through. Clue hate when I tell 180 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: that story. But Biggie definitely showed me the hammer and 181 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: say he gonna find Clue, he gonna give it to him. 182 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Did you used to drive out the Queens to give 183 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: clue to your song? 184 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: We wouldna by that Clue was coming to either rough 185 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: Riders or they would pick rest in Peace. Pick would 186 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: bring clue to songs, or he'll come to the store. 187 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: Man. I used to have to go to Queens. It 188 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: was that highway and the police was always on that highway, 189 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: pulling everybody over. And then at the end they had 190 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: like a twenty four hour fruit market. That's where I 191 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: used to meet Clue to give him the songs. But 192 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I was scared to fly. So 193 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: I used to drive down to Miami twice a week 194 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: and just be listening to every Clue tape. Shout out 195 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: the bakm mother of everybody who ever sold the mixtapes. 196 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: You know all of music, hut hall of music, hut yo. 197 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: You know. One day when I had my my sneaker 198 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: store in I'm not sneaker store because we ain't have sneakers, 199 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: but it was Fat Joe halftime. But yeah, we used 200 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: to sell a mixtape. One day, the police came in 201 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: there and it was locking me up for the mixtapes. 202 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Because we used to sell the mixtapes was illegal. So 203 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: they was like, yo, somebody got to go to jail. 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: We had my man Dja, he's in that letter. He 205 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to take the charge. He was like, Yo, 206 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: I can't go to jail. I wound up almost getting 207 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: locked up over mixtapes. Thank god, the cops just gave 208 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: me a summons. But I was going to jail for 209 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: selling mixtapes. It was the craziest shit. I was already 210 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: a rapper, but you know what I would do right 211 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: shout out to Ralph McDaniels. He get me huge opportunities. 212 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: So for kids that don't understand, were talking about analog 213 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: and shit before shit was digital and all that. All 214 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: the kids would run home at three o'clock to go 215 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: see video music box. 216 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: That's how it turned. This when the TV had knobs 217 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: on the kids. This is when turning. 218 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: Out when your man, damn, I don't even got a pocket. 219 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: This when your man special lad had the one hand 220 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: in the pocket and the bubble and was like, I 221 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: got a dog, a dog with a solid gold ball. 222 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Got it what we was like excited. But I met 223 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Ralph McDaniels, I'm not sure where, and I started going 224 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: to see him. 225 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 226 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: He had an office downtown by City Hall, and I 227 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: used to have to walk the elevator was always broken, 228 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: thirty one flights and stairs and that's fat Fat Joe. 229 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: And then Ralph started letting me host, so we going 230 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: to clubs and all that, and I'm hosting, Yo, what 231 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: up this fat joe y'all video music? But I'm still 232 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: in the streets too. I'm wearing like vance suits, big cubans, 233 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: like they know, that's Poppy who got the work up 234 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: in the Bronx. But I needed that, look, you know 235 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I needed that, you know, video music 236 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: box type shit. I went to Apollo Theater. So for 237 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: you to understand is my whole crew was already on. 238 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: So Finesse. I grew up with Finesse, Lord Finesse, he said, 239 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: I could say this story, but Lord Fess used to 240 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, back in the days he was an entrepreneur. 241 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: So he would sell the newspaper, right, so he had 242 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: a newspaper route. So he'll come. 243 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Around and go pay for two you too. 244 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: So Finesse used to go payaper and then your mom's 245 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: are paying him a dollar for the newspaper. But he 246 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: bought it for fifty cent. He made fifty cent to 247 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: go to the store to go get it. So I 248 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: met Finesse do that, and we used to hang out. 249 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: But he used to tell me all the time, y'all, 250 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a rapper, right, And I would go 251 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: to his house and he would dj his grandmother was there. 252 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: And one day I was listening to The Better Alert 253 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: and your man Finesse, he played like three or four 254 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: Finessa songs and I was just like he made it. 255 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Lord Finesse, that would have never 256 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: ever ever been fat Joe like, I would never believe 257 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: that I could become an artist in my life. I 258 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: had to see it to believe it. So when I'm 259 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: listening to this Lord Finesse is the man that you 260 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: had to hear, I'm like, yo, I'm going crazy. And 261 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: so finess gets on show Business ag get on and 262 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Diamond was on before all of Us Stunts, Bloods and 263 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: hip Hop Classic album. And so I said, you know 264 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: what I was hustling. I was in the streets and 265 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: I said, Yo, I'm going to Apollo Theater. So y'all 266 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: gotta understand. I'm in the streets, making money, respected in 267 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: the streets, doing everything I gotta do. And I said, 268 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to the Apollo amateur night to get on. 269 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: And there's a real story, right. So I'm already buying 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: that a dish. I'm caking. I'm caking, I'm caked up. 271 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: You see me in the clubs, popping bottles, all types 272 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: of shit. I'm doing what I'm doing. So I go 273 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: in there and I remember, so this is the heart 274 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: of a lion, heart of someone who I remember. I 275 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: went up in there and there was like one hundred 276 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: and fifty groups, and I remember, like, Yo, why these 277 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: people in here? Like you know, I'm here, like this 278 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: this is over, like no brain what I walked up 279 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: in there, like yo, this ship shout out the cocoa graft. 280 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: She just won the tennis. 281 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: She said. 282 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: The whole crowd was screaming for hard Plumnet in the 283 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: French joint, and she started telling herself cold, cold, cold 284 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: co They screaming Coco, but they were screaming the other 285 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: girl's name. And so you gotta talk yourself into you 286 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: gotta speaking to existence. So I walked up in there. 287 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I ain't know what it was, but I looked at them. 288 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: I said, these guys can't fuck with me. I'm you know. 289 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: And sure enough we went out there. I had the 290 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: yellow Dapper Dan track suit. We came outside, I had 291 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to dances and I had a song. It was called 292 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: he He's a big shot. Fat Joe is a big shot. 293 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: And I came outside and crowd way crazy. And I 294 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: tried one day to really think about it and be like, yo, 295 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: what did I say to make them go crazy? But 296 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: I really ain't saying nothing. The second I walked outside 297 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: and started rapping, they just there's always no disrestract. There's 298 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: always a fat girl that gets up there and goes 299 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: and I am telling you, and she kicked her ship off. 300 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: She kicked them shoes off. You know What's so when 301 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: the fat girl come up in the Apollo and go 302 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: and I am telling you kick her ship, it's over. 303 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: That's the cheek colt, yo, that's the cheek cole. She 304 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: kick her volumptuous. She she kicked her shoe off. Yeah, 305 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: all right, we're in a different type of thing. What's 306 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: the survey? And in telling you I'm not yo, and 307 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: she come up in there that shit is everybody going 308 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: crazy shit. So it's similar to her. The fat guy 309 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: came out. I tried. I stood up in the hotel 310 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: room one day, really trying to think about how I 311 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: wanted to apollo, and they just went crazy. They seen 312 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: Joe Krack. I don't know if they knew me from 313 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: the hood, from everywhere or whatever the case, and they 314 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: just started screaming like crazy. They couldn't have heard one rhyme. 315 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't even remember one rime. You understand what I'm saying. 316 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: They just I was blessed. God said, Yo, they're gonna 317 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: go crazy for this guy. And I won four weeks 318 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: in a row. And that's how I met Redd Alert. 319 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: Red Alert came up to me and was like, yo, 320 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: DJ read Alert who ran the game? It was him 321 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: and missed the magic. It's only two DJ's playing hip 322 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: hop facts prime time every week. So redd Alurke came 323 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: to me and was like, Yo, do you got any jingles, 324 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: any demos? So I gave him Flow Joe. So I 325 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: remember I was home in the projects and I had 326 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: the flu and this must have been COVID wavy for 327 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: the COVID like, I was fucked, fucked, fucked up. This 328 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: that COVID eighty eight. It was eighty eight, nigger like, yo, 329 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: that COVID came up on it. I was fucked up. 330 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: And for like two months after I gave him my demo, 331 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: I was waiting to hear it and man, that s 332 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: shit weir, boom boom weird. I was like, yo, I 333 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: jumped up, Yo, I must have hit the ceiling and 334 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: I ran. I had to speak and I threw it 335 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: on the window right quick, and everybody was in front 336 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: of the projects and I was like, yo, this is 337 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: my ship, this is my ship. Ready to learn playing 338 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: my ship. And so he played the flow joke. And 339 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: then maybe like a year later, Chris Lighty, wrestling piece, 340 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: came to my my hood, my block, I'm hustling, fuck 341 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: my checks. He came to the spot. He said, Yo, 342 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: you know who I am. I said, yeah, I know 343 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: who you is because I used to see Chris Lighty 344 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: in the streets and all that. He was like, yo, 345 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Lighty, I think you could be a big rapper. 346 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: I just signed a big deal with Relativity Records. He 347 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: had chi Ali, he had to beat nuts, and then 348 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: I was the third one and he was like, yo, 349 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: you know I want I want to make you a rapper. 350 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, what the fuck? I showed everybody 351 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: that check. It was a fifty thousand, but it was 352 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: a legit check. It's a little bit different getting drug 353 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: money getting real real check, Like look, I got a 354 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: real check. I'm showing everybody my check, like yo, my 355 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: check like yo? And and that that changed my life. 356 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: What songs? You were here? Before? You was on what? What? Songs? 357 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: From a lot of shit? But I remember always hearing 358 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: and Rock Kim came in the door check out my Melody? 359 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: M hm, I remember check out my Melody was always 360 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: playing in the park, basketball courts coming out of it. 361 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: I remember him and running them. King King of Rock, 362 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Big Daddy came Roll Rock saying, Shante. 363 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: Man, I'm shante, I'm shant. 364 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: Ship right there, shout out to. 365 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Mally map that man, Mally Mal is a dangerous guy. 366 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: I just got back from France and I was pumping 367 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: that biz market, the biz Mark is going off the Biz. 368 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: That was the shots that that's one of my favorite 369 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: rappers of all time, Biz Markey and he went rest 370 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: in peace. It wasn't because lyrical. It was just like. 371 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Yo, Krst told me anybody in the world he never 372 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: wanted the battle Biz and that ship was amazing to 373 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: me because he like, I'm like, Chris, you I kind 374 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: of thought you was just like I kind of see 375 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: you not being scared of the battle Biz. But he 376 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: like he has so much humor and crowd control that 377 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: he could really actually embarrass him. So he's like, I 378 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: would figure I would think it would be g rap 379 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: rock Kim hell them type of He's like, nah, I 380 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: never wanted the battle Bizz because he could just do 381 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: some funny shit or do something crazy. And I said 382 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: that that was very interesting. And here kr say, out 383 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: of everybody, all of them gladiated that he didn't want 384 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: no smoke. 385 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: He know, you know I used to hear the nordse 386 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: of the underground. 387 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: Oh mister funk. 388 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm living for the fun I'm talking about on 389 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: the block. While I'm on the block. The Jungle Brothers 390 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Jungles spished to knock the Jungle Yeah, and I used 391 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: to ride around looking for guys with the hammer on 392 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: my lap looking for guys. Now I'm just telling y'all 393 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: the truth show, all right, But I'm just saying it's 394 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: crazy because in the prime of violence, I'll be pumping 395 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: plucked one pluck two answer that shows under this a 396 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: lot of it. And I'm looking for the funk boy, 397 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: and I'm listening to the Daisy's pot holes in my lawn. Like, Yo, 398 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: this sick crazy man or the biggest most dangerous guys. 399 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: I knew all nice and smooth kind of like put 400 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: me on so great nice and smooth be they used 401 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: to put me on shows when they was the biggest. Yo. 402 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about nice and smooth. Let's 403 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: go there, right, nice and smooth say, I'm Greg Nice 404 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: and I am MC smooth. Together we are pure blend, 405 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: imperfect calm with me. Yo. They had dances to do. 406 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: Cliff Love just what keeping you waiting for alone? I'm 407 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: sorry for waiting alone? Like Yo, they were like a 408 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: super mega group. 409 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: They wasn't a shot out Teddy Tennis k the production 410 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: nice and smooth production was crazy. 411 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: Well that's the awesome too, the awesome two which you 412 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: had to be allowed to be up at like four 413 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: in the morning to hear their show. So with me, 414 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I live in the fact fifth floor of the projects 415 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: that we had the phone, the public phone like the 416 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: regular phone of the building. They would crack open the 417 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: thing and they would plug the boombox on to the 418 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: thing for the power. So shout out to a j 419 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: GP Craigo dance romance. All the older dudes, they would 420 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: listen to the awesome two at four in the morning. 421 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: I'd be out my window. That's where I heard. We 422 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: don't want to be left behind. All we want to 423 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: do is just blow your mind just one more time. 424 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: That's I say, right about now New York City ash Whip. 425 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: For being in my uncle's room listening to that repeatedively, 426 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: I was repetitively just kept listening to that. That shit 427 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: captivated my mind as a little kid. But then for 428 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: some stupid reason, I took the Crown Royal grease and 429 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: schmitted on the receiver. They beat the bricks so I 430 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: don't even know the in that song. And then and 431 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: then listening to that pery, I'm listening to that ship 432 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: over and over. The little kid, I just opened it. 433 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: Take the silver top off and put the grease on 434 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: the with the dow dunk slash on the I know 435 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: my grandmother, my mother, my uncle, they all mighty. Somebody 436 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: beat the ship out of me for that man. Uncle 437 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: Mike was in. 438 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: The back walking down the street that box in mind 439 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: the music on Boison Clan and you saying yourself there 440 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: is sound very nice. Let me tell you something I 441 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: know now the whole Man Block is China sound like me, 442 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: but the original yo. Let's say one day he showed 443 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: one day when I'm coaching at the Rucker. It said, well, 444 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm walking down the street where I'm in the back 445 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: like getting the team was rocking, yo, jay. That's the 446 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: times they didn't even have videos. I heard that ship 447 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of we Gotta win you I'm coaching. 448 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I ran to that fucking rocker park and I was 449 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: in the back. I ran in there so fast like 450 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: a baby bro. I was in there like and they 451 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: was like, you know, doing And to me, it was 452 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: just so innovative, so creative when we were when I 453 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: was a kid, they rhymed like nobody else. And I 454 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: got to see him in real life, like I really 455 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: got to see him like I was It's like, Yo, 456 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: the fucking crash cours. Ever sign up for a phone plan, 457 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: thinking wow, great price, and then a few months later 458 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: it's like surprise, your bill is higher. With boost Mobile. 459 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: You pay twenty five dollars a month forever. 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Customers will pay five dollars 469 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: a month as long as they remain active on the 470 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: boost a limited plan. Yo, listen, So we had to 471 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: do stuff like you know, I started out graffiti. So 472 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: I started out writing graffiti. That's how I met donad D. 473 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: He used to write ze rock. I used to write 474 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: I think. I used to write says and some shit 475 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: or poppy I don't fucking know. And then so I 476 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: always came from like a graffiti mentality to where with 477 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: graffiti it's all about a subculture that you king. So 478 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: if you're looking for graffiti, you'll see the names up 479 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: on the walls. Most people won't see him, but I 480 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: don't know if somebody's doing some shit, right, So we 481 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: started like that. So when I when I finally got 482 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: my deal with Relativity, I told him to make these 483 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: huge posters. So I don't even got one right now, 484 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: right now, If you got one, let me know, I'm 485 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: ready to buy it. It's a black and white poster 486 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: and it had to cover and it said fat Jo 487 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: the Gangster. And we tore this city a new ass everywhere. 488 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: Bro. 489 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: We used to come home every night looking like nine 490 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: to eleven, all white. Because it was the glue in 491 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: the water. You have to put the glue in the water. 492 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: So we on fifty ninth Street, over the fifty ninth 493 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: Street bridge, they had the green. Then we put it 494 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: up there. We put Atlantic Avenue, Brooklyn, we put it 495 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Westside Highway, we put it in Ford them, we put it. 496 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: We was doing graffiti, so I had me the tax crew, 497 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of graffiti artists bombing these posters like we 498 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: was bombing like it was graffiti. So we like King 499 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: of the City like and so everywhere you go the 500 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: other record label started like Leo Cohen, I never forget. 501 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: He actually went to Relativity and said, Yo, y'all gotta 502 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: stop this. Uh this fat Joe to gangster. These posters 503 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: is too big. How do y'all have a budget to 504 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: destroy this? Like because he knew now or his artists, 505 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: was like, yo, we went the big postest. We went 506 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: there and he was like, y'o, you're starting some new shit. 507 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: Y'all got the chill, Like these guys are going too crazy. 508 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: But that's how we did with the poster boards, with 509 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: Big Pond, the Don Carda Gina. We was out there. 510 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: It was moman like you said before, back when we 511 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: was when you when we had to roll out something 512 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: back in the days or in the nineties, rather you 513 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: had to be more man. Of course you had to 514 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: label doing whatever they did, but you had to form 515 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: your own staff and get out in the street and 516 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: do shit yourself, you know what I mean, whether it 517 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: was painting them the stencils or just going outside, going 518 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: everywhere you can go on ford them and that's like 519 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: the emotional days. 520 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: That's exactly you know what I mean. After I would 521 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: bomb all night, get home maybe six in the morning, 522 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: I'd bet at the train station and for them giving 523 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: out little cards saying hey, y'all, I'm Fat Joe the 524 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: rapper and giving them like the cover to the single. 525 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Like I'd be on the train station like yo, I'm 526 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Fat Joe the rapper and just giving him shit to say, 527 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: fat Joe the Gangster. Same thing where the first time 528 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: I ever met Biz, I went down to the lyricists 529 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Lounch and I was giving the DJ flow Joe. You 530 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I had the vinyls, so I'm 531 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: giving it to him personally. And that's where I saw 532 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: a big battle like twenty guys and he was up 533 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: on stage just killing him with a backpack on. That's 534 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: when I met him and he was like, Yo, you 535 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: flow Joe. This Yo, it's crazy man. But everything was man. 536 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: You you know. I used to come out the clubs 537 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: right and this could be uh, I don't want this 538 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: to be taking anyway. But I would come out of 539 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: SOB's different hip hop clubs and I would see jay 540 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: Z Nas a big l all the rappers freestyling and 541 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: ciphers in front of the club like I would see 542 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: everybody who became a legendary, they would just be at 543 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: the clubs freestyling, like outside in front of the joint. 544 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: They'd be spitting their bars out there. Alma, how was 545 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: it for you? Was you going to like? 546 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, of course we were younger, so we 547 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: wasn't catching the clubs until we got of age, until 548 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: we got on the label. But ciphers was a thing 549 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: of the of a norm like to where every day 550 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: we go downtown to get with D and before that 551 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: night was over it to be some type of cipher. 552 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: That's how we met Mace actually in the cipher on 553 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty fifth Street in front of the 554 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: mark T Dan Swisses Pops. We was with D in 555 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: the Martin T like, yo, I got I know somebody 556 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: that's that's super nice too. Were living around here in 557 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: thirty something, then thirty third, thirty knife, so he came. 558 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: I remember that day. Mace had on some Nike sandals. 559 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: I think he was dumping. He was crazy. He was 560 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: going crazy, right, crazy was understated flow. The flow was 561 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: crazy and didn't The rest was history. He was you know, you. 562 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Knew then and there he was gonna be a big 563 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: boy or you just knew he was that nice knew, 564 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: we just. 565 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: Knew he was nice. We didn't know, we ain't know 566 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: we was we would be getting signed. Uh what was 567 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: gonna happen in the yourself, all of us because we 568 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: got signed around the same time Conn. 569 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean, I know that's what big 570 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: That's that's where uh Finesse met big Al right in 571 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: front of the Mark. Finesse went over there was signing 572 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: some autographs. The Big Air was like, let me spit 573 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: for you. That's where he met big Al in front 574 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: of there, and then he put him on and brought 575 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: him with him and he did the the remix to 576 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Yes You Made. And I remember just as a team 577 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: player standing on in the stage in the back and 578 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: just seeing l catch wreck and I knew we had one. 579 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: I was just sitting in the back, like, y'all, this 580 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: guy is nasty. And you know when they're coming digging 581 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: in the crazy I used to have. You know, AG 582 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: had this one rhyme, Sally so she shlls down by 583 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: the sea shore. How much work can the Woodchuck, Chuck, 584 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. Where I saw a g 585 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: Andre the giant, I would make him sit at rhyming 586 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: me Sally, so she shlls down by the sea short. 587 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: How much work could the wood chuck Chuck wore. I'd 588 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: be like yo, say the ron say to rhyme, and 589 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: he would always do it for me. But that's how 590 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: we literally started. Back in the days, it was word 591 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: of mouth, and you would hear about guys like I 592 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: hear the infamous stories like Jay said he used to 593 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: pull up on DMX and they would. 594 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: Have Yeah, they had a legendary battle in the pool hoole. 595 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: I wasn't there for that, but that's the good back 596 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: and that's what you had to do. If somebody was nice, 597 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: you had to pull up on them and hear them 598 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: and no let him hear what you had. Or I 599 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: think that's a that's that's something that's different in today's 600 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: climbing of music. It was I was in many sessions 601 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: with everybody opposed, and now was emailing it or sending 602 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: it to a cloud, or they ill take bizarre to 603 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: the studio, remembers. 604 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: And shout out Jazzy J's studio. Man, I did my 605 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: whole album when I got signed. The same day I 606 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: got signed, my mother caught me over. I went over 607 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: and she told me she was she was diagnosed with cancer. 608 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: And I'm rushing to tell her, Yo, I got a 609 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: record deal. You know, I'm gonna change my life. And 610 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: she tells me, Yo, I got cancer. She used to 611 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: smoke a lot of cigarettes. So I remember going to 612 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: the doctor and the doctor telling us, uh, she had 613 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: So the doctor was like, Yo, if this was my mother, 614 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: I would just send her home and spend whatever couple 615 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: of months I got. I was only like nineteen eighteen, 616 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: I was. It was crazy to me, right, But we 617 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: asked to talk about that. Yeah, we asked the doc, Yo, Doc, 618 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: what's her chances? Doc, what's the chances? And the doc said, Yo, 619 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: after chemo, after this, and that she got like a 620 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: one percent chance. And my moms looked at me and said, 621 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: you heard him, Joe. He said, we got a chance. 622 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: We got one percent. We the one percent, We got 623 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: a chance. She went to the hospital, she did an operation. 624 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: Her ship was this big because they cut her from 625 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: here to year. She had to talk. But she lasted 626 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: maybe forty years after that operation, thank god. But my 627 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: moral to the story is, remember that fifty thousand dollars. 628 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: Check my moms. They wouldn't let family spend the night 629 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: with us, so my moms were scared to spend the 630 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: night by herself. So at least forty thousand of the 631 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: fifty thousand I had to pay a registered nurse. At 632 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: that time, they was expensive like now like it was, 633 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: you know, like fifteen hundred a night or some shit. 634 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: So I only had ten g's left and that was 635 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: only enough to pay for the studio. And then Diamond 636 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: did me the favor. Whoever worked on the album pretty 637 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: much did the beats for free. And I remember I 638 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: ran out of money to mix the album and shout 639 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: out to the beat nuts juju or less. They actually 640 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: mixed my album for free. They mixed the album, you know, 641 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: to look out for me, so I'm always forever and 642 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: debted to the beat nuts. But that you know, that's 643 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: the type of shit he was doing back in them days. 644 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: And then we asked them guys Messages of funk. That 645 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: was around two signed Relativity. There was Good Brothers too, 646 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: and shit wasn't easy, man, And the money's different, right, 647 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: so let's go to that. So no, no, the money's different, 648 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: So you go Magic Johnson. This Joe, y'all could understand 649 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: youth or anybody's watching. Magic Johnson made one million dollars 650 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: and they put them on Time Magazine, Sports Illustrated everybody. 651 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: It was a one million a year. Now you got 652 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: the bummiest guy in the world on the bench for 653 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: ninety seven million dollars, and guys are saying his Greek 654 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: freak coming, or he's gonna stay over there and get 655 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: the max and get three hundred something million. The money 656 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: was different, So FlowJo went number one in the country, 657 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: but I was only getting five hundred dollars a show. 658 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: So I'm doing Yonkers, Staten Island and Fever fifteen hundred 659 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: on a Friday Saturday. I'm doing Va, North Carolina, DC, 660 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: Bang bang bang, like flying, like trying to kill myself 661 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: to come back with a little fifteen hundred a night. 662 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: And so this is this is the difference with the money. 663 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: So no matter how popping you was, it wasn't no 664 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: money at the time. So you're thinking like boom and 665 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: I go from you know, I literally was selling drug drugs, 666 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: so I took a I don't know if y'all truly 667 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: understand like I changed my life like Cinderella. But I 668 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: was making a lot of money to like hustle for 669 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars like and I had to stay the course. 670 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: So you have to understand if you're gonna change your 671 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: life youth and you're gonna get into the rap game 672 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: and you ain't making that kind of money yet or 673 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, you got to state of 674 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: course because I could have easily said, Yo, let me 675 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: go sell y'all, let me stare somebody up. Like guys 676 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: kept coming to be like, you know, I used to 677 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: stick people up so that you know, I stuck everything 678 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: up to supermarkets, drug dealers, everything you can name. So 679 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: guys would come up to me and be like, Yo, 680 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: we gotta lick. You know what I'm saying. We got 681 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: a dude, he got this couple of honeys. You know 682 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I beg I even was offered. 683 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: You know it's not crazy, dude, you crazy. 684 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you the truth. Like they would be like, Yo, 685 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: we got the lit and then they pull it off 686 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: and come around with the new benzes, your crack. We 687 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: try to tell you we had the lick. I'm already flowed, Yoe. 688 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: Look how is your transition from that to that? Because 689 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 2: we had to buy a brick, we had to cop 690 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: a bird with our advent. Three dudes, the event was 691 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: only enough so you got the deal. 692 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: And then when it kind of got. 693 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 2: When we got our first deal and the money clip, 694 00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 2: we copped. 695 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: It said that the Baltimore there was always rumors of that. 696 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's real. That's just really. 697 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: So instead of you deal and you know you was 698 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: going legit, you went the other way. 699 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: Three of us that was a legitimate, illegitimate thing to do. 700 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: At the time, they get it real, evinced that wasn't enough, 701 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Three of us were splitting 702 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 2: everything down the middle, thirty three and the third man. 703 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: I had to do so much. So my reputation on 704 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: the street was straight violence, right, And I came in 705 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: this game and try to become the pussiest guy in 706 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: the game because I already knew people were scared to 707 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: deal with me because they thinking I'm like a New 708 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: Yorkshire night and the stories was going. So I was 709 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: trying my best to be the nicest guy in the world, 710 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to convince people, yo, I'm a good guy. 711 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: Don't listen to what people are saying. 712 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: Look at this, did you ever have some this is 713 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: back since we on it. We just were on the train. 714 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: Now on something. 715 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 2: Did you ever have an altercation in Mount Vernon back 716 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: in the day, back because we had a show, we 717 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: were supposed to have a show the Young Luck whatever 718 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: we was, and we got arrested. But we heard before 719 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 2: that y'all had some type of fight or something happened 720 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 2: in it in Mount Vernon. 721 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,959 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the god the original right that Mount 722 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: Vernon show. Mount Vernon showed me what I could do 723 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: and couldn't do. So I was very young, and I 724 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: was very crewe oriented to the ight, and these guys 725 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: were dangerous guys like the terror Terror squad from day 726 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: one was very dangerous. I don't have to elaborate. I'm 727 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: telling you this is not a game. Everybody was like 728 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: seven point thirty and I would take them to my 729 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: original shows. Mount Vernon's one of the first shows I 730 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: ever did. And I used to look up to Mount 731 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: Vernon because Heavy D's one of my idols. Some money 732 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: earning Mount Vernon. But these guys went and started beating 733 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: up the fans, like sometimes you bring the wrong hood 734 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: with you, they'll beat up your fans. And so they 735 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: start stomping out the fans. And that's when I realized. 736 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: I said, yo, I cannot bring these guys. So somebody 737 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: grabbing me, like, yo, you gotta float Yoe. The Float 738 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: show was number one. It's why I'm trying to tell 739 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: you I did young, because I did Mount Vernon. I 740 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: did every movie theater you could think of. Now I'm 741 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: telling you, like you know, they used to have a 742 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: little movie theater. Float Joe was ringing Nigga thirst Thanksgiving night, 743 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: so doubt lines around the block for Flow Joe. But 744 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: these guys would fight the fans, and so I'll be 745 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: like a right Ski recipe. I'd be like, Ski, you 746 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: can't come. Such just said you can't come, and everybody 747 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: started getting mad at me. I was like, yo, you're 748 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: beating up the fans. This ain't like the enemy. Somebody 749 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: wants to beat me up. Somebody was say yes, winging 750 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: on the fans, and so that's crazy. It reminds me 751 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: of they asked some ship. I don't know who the 752 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: young boy is, but there's a young boy that was 753 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 1: really really parked popping. What's his name? Although something somedy. 754 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: He beat up the fan. They put him on in 755 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: a coma or something. So sometimes you really gotta reframe it. 756 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: Get but yeah, Mount. 757 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: Vernon, Yes, you know, I just I was wondering. We 758 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: never made it to the you got arrested in the alley. 759 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: We didn't even make it to the where we was 760 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 2: supposed to perform. 761 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: Man, so you you got there and they picked you up. 762 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so we walking and it just came 763 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 2: with a bus and shackles and mad cop cause we 764 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 2: was in Mount Vernon City jail. We all got to rest. 765 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: Didn't even make it. 766 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: To the show. The shout out to Mount Vernon Man 767 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: money Earning Mount Vernon, they put out, you know, Mount 768 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: Vernon was the Beverly Hills of black people in America 769 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: at one time. You know, Malcolm X living in one 770 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: the house, Stephanie Mill, New York, Freddie your girl, Nina Simone, 771 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, like no, Mount Vernon was 772 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: like if anybody black had real money. I'm talking about 773 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: Malcolm X, Nina Simone, Stephanie Mills while she's running around 774 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: with fucking Michael Jackson, like the biggest royalty they was 775 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: in Mount Vernons. You know, what I'm saying, So Mount 776 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: Vernon was really really a stretch of like Loue Albannos 777 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: from Captain rest you Captain Lou Albanna you remember him, 778 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: and that what was that? The Madonna video girls, the 779 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: City Officer girls, they want to have fun on Oh gosh. 780 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 2: He had a big he had a big cameo that 781 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 2: he was her dad. He was trying to stop up. 782 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: You know that song is that's one of the ones. 783 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: That's a legendary to this day. Girls want to have fun, 784 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: not shoe. To this day, that's a legendary. That one stood. 785 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: That one aged well, you know, and so mina day 786 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: you say, somebody like recipes u X text shown. They 787 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: say that guy never left his house. They say made 788 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: his music, press, play in the computer, was getting rich 789 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: off of streams and everything. We said, he never even 790 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: left his house. You got artists out here now. 791 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 2: That shows the difference. That shows that the marginal gap 792 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 2: of from you having to put up actually put the 793 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: glue on the back of the glue hole shits and 794 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: put them up yourself to being able to make millions 795 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: of dollars without even leaving the crib is incredible. 796 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: It's beyond incredible. And so the only thing I say 797 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: that that that's not right with that. 798 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: Is touching the people. 799 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: Yes, you don't touch the people, you don't create. So 800 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: every time I put out an album, I went on 801 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: something they used to call a promo tour. I hated 802 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: it because you went out there to go for free. 803 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: But it ain't nothing like meeting like you know, you 804 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: go out to San Francisco, you see Vaughn and Sway 805 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: and all these guys, and then you go to LA 806 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: and your relationship with Phelly Fell and Big Boy and 807 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 1: Bacon Cruise Boy. Remember the Baker Boys. They the first 808 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: syndicated crew. They was the first syndicated. So you go 809 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: around and you meet all these cosmic cavs and all 810 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: these guys, and then when you put out a record 811 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 1: that I call a strup, it's one thing. They support 812 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: you with a hit, but when you put out a 813 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 1: record that's like struggling, that's when them guys that relationship 814 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: kick in and they start playing your ship and then 815 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: if it deserved to blow, then it'll blow. And so 816 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: that's what I think the youth is missing, of that 817 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: communication with actual people that can help you when you're struggling, 818 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, because I have a push of a button. 819 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: I never get involved with Like when people tell me, yo, 820 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: why you don't tell these young kids, these rappers, why 821 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: you don't this, I'd be like, okay, So the numbers 822 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: are to discourage you. The numbers are one out of 823 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: maybe ten million people actually make it and rap music. 824 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 2: So I think that I think you're watching the numbers all. 825 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: Right, So what's the number? What do you think that's 826 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: the number? 827 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 2: It's fifty three new rappers every day? Who's he let 828 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: three of them blow? Who's just nah? 829 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: Not every day? 830 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 2: You're very confused right now, composed. It is all making 831 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 2: money that we never gonna hear. 832 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: You're never gonna hero. Yes, but he's successful. Yeah, but 833 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: it's hard though, it's not. It's not what you think. 834 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 2: You think anybody, how many guys you said numbers? That's 835 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 2: hard in the NBA. You know, it's easier to hit 836 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 2: the lotto than to make it to the NBA. You 837 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 2: just made a rap numbers harder than. 838 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: Both of wrap numbers? Is that hard? To be really successful? Hard? 839 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: Do you know how many guys are forty years. 840 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: Old on a housecss successful? 841 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: Do you know how many anybody wraps and somebody dies 842 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: and they be like your rapper, whopp he wop, he 843 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: was a rapper. He got killed in Brooklyn the day. No, 844 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: we don't know this guy just because he made a demo. 845 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: He's a rapper. Now, you know, I'm talking about successful. 846 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: Every year we could think what a sexy read who 847 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: is the most successful rapper? 848 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 2: Last year? 849 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: Who was the first, Who is the newest rapper successful? 850 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,479 Speaker 1: Glorilla blew up, but she was already out. I'm trying 851 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 1: to say that last year, sex yep, sexy red shooper, 852 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: who just came out this successful. We can name maybe 853 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: one to three that's really making money, that's really successful. Oh, 854 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: Lotto Lodo been out since she was twelve rapping on 855 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: the show. But let's think she put in the work 856 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: that she deserves it. What I'm saying to you is 857 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 1: like they gotta be a million something plus girls trying 858 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: to rap and they made it. And so what I'm 859 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: trying to tell you is that the odds are very, 860 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: very very discouraging. You got guys just because your crew 861 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: is selling you nice, just because you know you know 862 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: you got god. You got grown men who refuse to 863 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: get a nine to five, and they sleeping on their 864 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: couch at forty four with three kids, and they baby 865 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: mama working and they out here talking them by they're 866 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: gonna rap. If you ain't getting paid to do a show, 867 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: if you ain't got no real people streaming your shit, 868 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: you are not successful. You understand. So what I'm trying 869 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: to tell you is that this is harder than you think. 870 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: Everybody and their mother think they could rap and be successful. 871 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: It does not work like that. 872 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 2: It ain't. It ain't that easy, But it ain't as 873 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 2: hard as when we had to. It's not as hard. 874 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 2: They don't got to go through this shit. 875 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I agree this. This reminds me of 876 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: the classic interview that Cali had with Cali. I think 877 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 1: he was with Ebro and them when he started basking 878 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: you know how hard it was to get on and 879 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: this and this and that. It was hard. Back in 880 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: the day you had, it was almost impossible. 881 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 2: Everything was hands on. 882 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 1: And now I get what you're saying. With the press 883 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: of a button, you could be successful. A lot of 884 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: people who did that, But there's a lot of people 885 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: rapping thinking they're gonna make it, and they never make it. 886 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: Most people never make it and it's very similar to 887 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: the NBA. The numbers of very similar to the NBA. 888 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: Now we ain't discouraging you. I'm just trying to give you. 889 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: You need to plan A and the plan B. You know, 890 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: especially if you know it's not working. Because another thing. 891 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, this game, the entertainment business 892 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: is off momentum. That's why I got a little upset 893 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: because we came out the box number one in the country, 894 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: you know, Apple Music, and then we I had to 895 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: go on Vaca. It was set up ahead of time. 896 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 1: I know that when you got momentum, you gotta keep 897 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: your foot on their neck. That's the way the game works. Now, 898 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm in the artists we seen come out and get 899 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: hype at the beginning, you think they're gonna blow, and 900 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: then they lost that and then for years they keep 901 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 1: trying to come back to get Once you got that momentum, 902 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: you got to stay your foot on their neck and 903 00:52:51,840 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: keep that momentum going. Think about that, how many rappers 904 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: you could easily think about how many rappers Quarterbus. I 905 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: don't know if it was their work ethic. I don't 906 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: know if they couldn't deliver the record because I remember 907 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: fifty cent killing the mixtapes and all that, and then 908 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: when I heard go Go Coach Chawty, It's sure, I knew, 909 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: Holy shit, the man here, No, he delivered. He created 910 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: the hype and then drop a motherfucking monsoon or tsunami 911 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: on the ass. Now that's not all rappers. You know 912 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: how many rappers created some type of hype and then 913 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: drop the ball when it was time to let the 914 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: single go, they also. 915 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 2: Shut They blocked it. You can't even use you can't 916 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 2: ball people's beats. How fifty was taking shits and making 917 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 2: his own songs and destroying shit, they blocked that. So 918 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 2: we gotta be mindful of what they're doing. Though. Here 919 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 2: I can tell you what even that mixtape you had 920 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 2: that was crazy that they took. 921 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: Yo. Man, they try to sue me ten different ways. 922 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: It was like the Princess tape. Michael Jackson to state this, 923 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: I put out a mixtape. The ship was hard. I 924 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 1: actually concentrated on that mixtape almost like an album. I 925 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: took that shit serious. I dropped that ship at one hour. 926 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: They was like, yo, it came like and I don't 927 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 1: know why is that? Why that Joe can't make a mix. 928 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: No, likey can't they blocking that ship? 929 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: No, that shit came ceasing assist Prince the Beg's the 930 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: disc the total every beat. I yes, I used the 931 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: biggest beats. But it was a mixtape. I'm telling everybody 932 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: it's a mixtape. I'm trying to get it going. They 933 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: shut my ship down. So yo, I must have asked 934 00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: so much hot blood pressure. No, Yo, I drove it. 935 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: Put your breath. When I drove from the Lower East 936 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: Side to the Bronx, I had like nine pendent lawsuits. 937 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 1: Like this shit was coming, like it was the same lawyer. 938 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 1: They was like, hey, Joe, just to let you know. 939 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: The BG said, you know better, they're gonna sue the 940 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: next thing. Princess State is saying they want damages. They're 941 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna sue this, and just the shit just kept coming 942 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: off a mixtape and just and look he telling you 943 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: all these mixtapes everybody did, Fat Joe did one, and man, 944 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: when I tell you, the rules were different, they shut 945 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: that shit down. I never heard the mixtape again. How 946 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: about that. I never heard the mixtape again. Yo. I'm 947 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: telling you, I never heard the mixtape again. They shut 948 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: that ship down. He raced it from yr Yo, they 949 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: moved that ship. I was so scared after that ship. 950 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 2: I said, Yo, you see nine loss. You can just 951 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 2: go in the stew balls. Anybody's beat, put it out, 952 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 2: create a buzz. You good. Now that shit have lasted 953 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 2: thirteen man. 954 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: Now I'm fucking over there. I'm in Sancho Pei. They 955 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 1: playing all type of ed m shit and then when 956 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: you go on to Spotify, they call it a mixtape. 957 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: You see, they took the they took the yalla, they 958 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 1: took the no, they took the yaller. Right now, the 959 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,919 Speaker 1: language on Spotify or Apple or whatever, it's like, yo, 960 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: the mixtape. 961 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: And they took our shit and made it they shit. 962 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 2: And you can't even do this shit. That was our shit. 963 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 2: That's some shit. 964 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: That's big ship, that's big time shit and so and 965 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: that's where the game is at. You know what I'm saying. Well, 966 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: we talk about hip hop music and I listen to 967 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: country and they be like country's the biggest genre or whatever. 968 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 1: I hear mad lyrics like you gotta be rap dudes 969 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: in the back room writing they ship because I hear like, 970 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: how about all corny, like watered down, Like we in 971 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: Sancho Pei and every legendary song you ever heard from 972 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: Stevie Wander, from whoever. They make their own version of 973 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: it and they play it in the hotels, the clubs, 974 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: the bars, and you there were days. If you go 975 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: on YouTube, to be honest with you and you like 976 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: slow jams, you hear the fake boys to man, the 977 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: fake Louta, the fake like, what the fuck is why 978 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: we can't hear the real fucking Brest. 979 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 2: Something to do with the streaming and all that, the 980 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: ship that we never. 981 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: Had to wag yoll the mainly out of like, you know, 982 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: because my shit is on being all that. So I 983 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: go to a hotel, I throw on the YouTube and 984 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: I keep hearing the fake Joe, the fake Lina Richie 985 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: like niggas is coming over somebody. But how do they 986 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: get the placement? How do they get the stream the 987 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: fake covers get the streams missed. 988 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,479 Speaker 2: It's something they leaving out in order to be because 989 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 2: you know how to go if you they left one 990 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: symbol off of one one shnaire is missing or something, 991 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 2: they give them the ability to do it. 992 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 1: I also never like, I never like, uh very rare. 993 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 2: I get it. 994 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: A lot of artists we've been robbed I've been robbed. 995 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, I got robbed for my publishing. When I 996 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 1: was young. God pull up on me. He was like, yo, 997 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: we Latino, We gotta take care of each other's name, Jellybean, Benitas, 998 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: they supposedly discovered Madonna and all that. He gave me 999 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars and never gave me another dollar. He 1000 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: must have robbed me for ten twenty million. I'm talking 1001 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: about and big pun. 1002 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 2: He deserved a torpedo. 1003 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: Bet no, this guy needs more than a torpedo. But 1004 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, we never seeing it's cool. But the man 1005 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: robbed me right for my publishing, So I get it. 1006 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 1: Everybody get robbed. You know, whoever you name a Timberlaye 1007 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: and the MISSI it is, they always was in the 1008 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: kitchen cooking up. Scott Storch was cooking up, not getting 1009 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: the credit right. So we all got robbed in one 1010 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: way or another. Right when the artists go now and 1011 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: do their own song over because they got robbed for 1012 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: their publishing or something like that, and they could own 1013 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: the master now it never sound like the original. And 1014 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: we're so used to the original. And I don't care 1015 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: who you name. I listen to a bunch of artists 1016 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,439 Speaker 1: like redo the song. Their voice don't sound the same. 1017 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: You're older now, your shit don't sound the same, and 1018 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: you out here trying to recreate the magic. I say, 1019 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 1: keep performing, make your money. Don't fuck up the song 1020 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: because now they switch it out, so they don't take 1021 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: out the original that we love and put you with that. 1022 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 1: But if with your ship in there, it's money for 1023 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: the artists. But the ship is whacking in the original. 1024 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Let me use the bathrooms, tad on the ears. Nobody 1025 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,479 Speaker 1: can do. They swing over and it sounds good. 1026 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. You can't if he did 1027 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Slow Joe right now, it's gonna sound garbage. 1028 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 1: You can't. 1029 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 2: You can't get back intim. 1030 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Because we've been used to you're hearing the ship is 1031 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: certain one. We love when the drum hit unheavy. We 1032 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: love when that ship. Wait, guys, and then it's just 1033 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: switch up you. 1034 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 2: Like even though you're the one who made it. If 1035 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 2: I had to go back and do listen the sound 1036 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 2: the only guys, you know what, I'm not even gonna. 1037 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Say, who sound It's never gonna sound and scene like 1038 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: this is this is the part of the show. Can't Jada, 1039 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: You can't do. Can't he played the shit comes from 1040 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: different plans. You never get I never understood weed. Like 1041 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: if I went to the same guy, Pablo, he can't 1042 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: guarantee me that the weedy sold me earlier come from 1043 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: the same plan. 1044 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 2: Oh men, the fucking went to Montego Bay. These niggas 1045 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 2: spent forty ms. They went to Cali and copied the 1046 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 2: whole shit. They went to Montego Bay, spent forty ms, 1047 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 2: cloned the whole shit everything and grew straight garbage. They 1048 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 2: wasted forty ms. You know what it was to saw 1049 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 2: you in the heat and then how Jamaica is eight 1050 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 2: Cali weed is like that because the demographics of Cali. 1051 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 2: Just because you copied it and tried it in Jamaica, 1052 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 2: it was too hot. This shit came out garbage and 1053 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 2: they wasted the breath. 1054 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: My shit is this. That's an interesting story. But listen, 1055 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 1: My thing is this. If I go to McDonald's, I 1056 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: know what the chicken McNugget is. No, I'm teared out. 1057 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Why don't I tell you something that I'm just saying. 1058 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: When I go my ship is food, your ship is weed. 1059 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: So when I go no Na, when I go somewhere, 1060 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: I that go do but listen, listen, we got it 1061 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: sh we rolling. No, I come off the plane. I'm 1062 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 1: as Sancho Pey all this ship right, I'm eating all 1063 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: this kind of weird ass. Sh right. 1064 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 2: You need to get that. 1065 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: I got right back to Jimmy's Bronze Cafe. Took two 1066 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: scoops and I was like, oh, I noticed. What I 1067 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 1: didn't understand is how the weed guy can never tell 1068 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: you with like Newport, it tastes like a new Port. 1069 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: How could you buy weed from a different solid? 1070 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 2: You see how you when you go the restaurants, you 1071 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 2: know is guaranteed. If when you go weed shopping, you 1072 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 2: got you have to go and try it every time. 1073 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Say we we sent them Sam, you send them. 1074 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,520 Speaker 1: For a diapad. You got to sample it. 1075 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta try it every time. With weed, you 1076 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 2: gotta try it every time. It's not gonna be right 1077 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 2: every time. 1078 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 1: You gotta. 1079 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, let me see this, Oh no, oh like that. 1080 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 2: I can't guarantee it because you're gonna order what you 1081 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 2: ordered and it ain't gonna be with you. 1082 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 1: Order any weed they give me, make me run but 1083 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: naked outside. I don't want it. No, I don't want it. 1084 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 2: That was franky baby. Yeah, ain't that ship for Friday? 1085 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 2: That's smoke it. Let me tell you something, bro, shout 1086 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 2: out to Doci man, she had one of the Yeah, 1087 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 2: she knew she had. 1088 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: It about one. 1089 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Do you know how many dough cheese? It's not gonna 1090 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 2: need that many more. 1091 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: You know how many girls it's rapping right now? How 1092 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 1: many millions of girls is rapping in Doci made it. 1093 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell you the odds, yo, Bro, 1094 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: everybody's sitting on the couch is not gonna be a 1095 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: successful rapper. They all around the world and all around 1096 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,959 Speaker 1: like in Africa right now, they must think they're gonna 1097 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 1: be the next Davi Do or whatever the case may be. 1098 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you got to keep an A and 1099 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 1: a B plan. I'm not discouraging you. I'm just saying, 1100 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: chances are You know how many times I went to 1101 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,479 Speaker 1: karaoke and the girl came up in there and sung 1102 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the fuck out of the karaoke, but she never blew 1103 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: up as a superstar, like the chances is really hard. 1104 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying to you is this all right, 1105 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm giving you a good one. Our fans love shit 1106 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: like that are fans of the podcast Joe and Jada, 1107 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and we want to thank you for one hundred thousand subscribers. 1108 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Like that twenty two days baby Instagram. 1109 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: About the crack one hundred thousand, We like ninety seven 1110 01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: thousand or some shit like that. But listen. Top five 1111 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: greatest hip hop songs ever. I'm gonna let you, Yeah, 1112 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you set it off and your artists 1113 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 1: producers stop getting fucking mad. We love all of y'all. 1114 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: We don't fucking whatever it's up, Papa ship like yo, stop. 1115 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: I love all of y'all. Y'all all are supposed to 1116 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: be the greatest of all for he's gonna pick five. 1117 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick five. Don't rob bass, do not call 1118 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: me and curse me out tomorrow when this ship drive 1119 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: the right to because it takes two try to get 1120 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: good big. 1121 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's millions of them. I 1122 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 2: don't want to fixing minding me making me. 1123 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Do this right. That's right. Top five biggest hip hop 1124 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: songs of all time. 1125 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 2: You see why this is a bad thing because it 1126 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 2: goes off your age. I can say five and somebody 1127 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 2: that a new never heard it. 1128 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: But it's okay, it's okay. Our demographic is people our 1129 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: age real hip hop, and then we got some young 1130 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: kids who really want to know the real. 1131 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 2: So the top five hip hop songs of all time? 1132 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 2: How the fuck am I supposed to do? 1133 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't know? But what what? What you think? When 1134 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: you heard it? You are? You hear it and you 1135 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 1: just like yo, this is the biggest ship ever. 1136 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 2: See. I'm trying to think of when since I ever't 1137 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 2: first heard hip hop? And now, Oh now that's hard, 1138 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 2: nothing but clustered. 1139 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: No, that's hard. 1140 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm drawing white noise. Why don't you go first? 1141 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Damn said? Why is what? This is? 1142 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 2: All? 1143 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: You? Right here? You go first? I'll say hip hop hoaray, 1144 01:06:52,920 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 1: naughty by nature. I'll say still dre I swear it 1145 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 1: gets tricky. I'll say, I'm just saying, biggest hip hop 1146 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: ship you get caught hold on, hold on, caught up thinking, 1147 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I'll say, uh, New York, Alicia Keys and jay Z, 1148 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: you right. 1149 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Bouncing around years. You made it easier for me. I 1150 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 2: like this because I count it easily. That's three three? 1151 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 1: What three? I said? What three? I said? Said? New 1152 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: York hip Hop Array in New York Alicia Kes and 1153 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: I think we got the best New York hip hop record. Now, 1154 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying not even the five already crack. Hip 1155 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 1: hop Array won the hip hop Array won the first 1156 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: uh Grammy, the first rap for the first grade for 1157 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: the Rap album, for for a rap album, and that 1158 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: hip hop fucking hooray, Okay, I got hip hop Array, 1159 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: I got what was the second one? I said, still 1160 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: dre right, you know you hit them pianos? 1161 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:05,439 Speaker 2: Huh? 1162 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 1: And then we got New York. 1163 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 2: Two of the greatest songs of all time. 1164 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: He on two of the greatest songs of all time. 1165 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 2: You're only on three though, you got two more. 1166 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Biggie Hypnotize Biggie hypnotized, right, and fuck it, I'll go cliche, 1167 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: I'll go Tupac dear Mama, Wow, I needed. 1168 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm you did. All that was his own fucking top 1169 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 2: ten songs. I can't be mad at we have said 1170 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,759 Speaker 2: talken about all time. 1171 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you think I just hit a. 1172 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 2: There's no way to be right or room. I think 1173 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 2: those songs. 1174 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: That's exactly the point. There's no way to be right 1175 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: or wrong. So so my people don't call me and 1176 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: curse me out every time I do a producer every 1177 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: time I do this, every time I do it that 1178 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 1: they want to fucking kill me. Like y'all. I love everybody, man, 1179 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 1: but I'm just telling you hip hop paray. Oh hey, oh, 1180 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about hypnotize. 1181 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 2: No, y'all, this niggas fucking talking. 1182 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 1: About the biggest shit. 1183 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:27,960 Speaker 2: He fucked me up. 1184 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. 1185 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 2: Let me say, nobody take nothing cause I don't like 1186 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 2: doing these. So I'm on y'all side where y'all call 1187 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 2: him and flip on them and everybody call crack. This 1188 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 2: is his idea. 1189 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: But have I got to give you five? 1190 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 2: I can't, but let me try. 1191 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: One of them. 1192 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 2: Gotta be something from Snoop what Gin and Juice or 1193 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 2: or the g Thing or one of them. Shit is 1194 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 2: definitely one of them. Snoop and Drake together got one 1195 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 2: of them. I don't know which one. Take your pick. 1196 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 2: That's one for count That A's one right now. One 1197 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 2: d m C. 1198 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: King the Rock. 1199 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 2: I gotta be one because that's one of the first 1200 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 2: songs I ever heard in my life. 1201 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: Now, that's what setting it off. 1202 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm uth at three now. The other one was you 1203 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,600 Speaker 2: Gotta make your own one I gave you Dre and 1204 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 2: Snoop is one one of these ships is one is 1205 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm cheating, but I got he's cheating, no choice. 1206 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: He ain't go specific with it. I said, Jenny, juice 1207 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 1: or g thing those take. 1208 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 3: Your one fault that dog of all times clocked Yeah, 1209 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 3: because this. 1210 01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: Is y'a Jada man, this ship you got, I'm mean 1211 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: what else? I mean? Uh, you got a whole bunch. 1212 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 2: That scott one too. I don't know which one it is. 1213 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 1: Look, that's the stop drop shut him off on moup. 1214 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 2: What you call him is bigger than that. What it 1215 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:19,719 Speaker 2: make me lose my mind? 1216 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Y'all. 1217 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 2: Make that ship rips out there up. 1218 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 1: Here, that his cruising, y'all gonna make me go all out. 1219 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: So the hook is so top forty. The verses is dishrich. 1220 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 2: The verses is saying. 1221 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: That day when when the one thing gun thing like yo, 1222 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 1: he's going crazy free. You know we had a thing, 1223 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 1: let me let me shout out, cooling Dre. We had 1224 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 1: a thing we would make. We would kill him on 1225 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,560 Speaker 1: the verse and make him dance on the hook. We 1226 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,599 Speaker 1: will always do that. 1227 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 2: Gotta stuff giving the formulas out. Don't get don't tell 1228 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 2: these people that when I'm up to three or four. 1229 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Man, You up to three? 1230 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Now, I'm up to four. 1231 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,759 Speaker 1: Y'all gonna make me lose my mind. 1232 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm leaving ship out. I think one of see don't 1233 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 2: hold me. Don't quote me, boy, because I ain't said ship. 1234 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 2: N w A got one too, and pick it. 1235 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Fuck the police. 1236 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 2: If you' every one you want, that's one. N w A. 1237 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: They got one, biggest of all time, great biggest one. 1238 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: You don't question. My n w CONTs bigger than fuck 1239 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: the police. That's why I just give you. N w A. 1240 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 2: They got one of them, one of them ships they 1241 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 2: got caught bigger than I gotta switched demographic. 1242 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: I shit alone in my four corner. I got, I 1243 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 1: got millions of more. But I just had to verse 1244 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 1: bum boom bomb ole production there saying that listen, man, 1245 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,120 Speaker 1: I was hustling. I was in the street, hustling, and 1246 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 1: my brother told Mantane to pull up in the red truck, 1247 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: the Wrangler truck, and he looked at me. I swear 1248 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,719 Speaker 1: to god, this is like a movie. He pulled over. 1249 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm on the block watching the ship. I don't want 1250 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: to say what block, but I'm on the block watching 1251 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: and he ran up to me and his face it 1252 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 1: looked like a movie. This is my best friend, rest 1253 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,679 Speaker 1: in peace, and he running like he had to tell 1254 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 1: me something crazy. So I'm like, yo, turning something. He said, Yo, 1255 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 1: come here, come here, please come in, and the man 1256 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: press play because he had the system. Boom bu got 1257 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 1: damn boom boom boom boom boom boomom. I sit alone 1258 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: in my fall on the room stall. Or that we 1259 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,240 Speaker 1: started dancing around this truck when they played My mind's 1260 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 1: playing tricks on me, dancing around like Yo, this ship 1261 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,880 Speaker 1: is great, and every drug dealer felt like paranoid. You 1262 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 1: felt like I took the fads everywhere I go and 1263 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: swam paranoid like everybody living that life. 1264 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 2: You know that was one of them ones. 1265 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Nah, So let me get Jada's all. What what did 1266 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: you write down Jada's five? No, it ain't his other 1267 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: songs bigger than mine than his, were just saying he. 1268 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 2: Says, Go is one of the biggest songs, Go Go? 1269 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 1: What's from Go? Shut in the club? Fifty? Is your birthdays? 1270 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,679 Speaker 1: In the will? That don't know that sort? 1271 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 2: You could go niggas. 1272 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 1: I can't talk. No, I'm just saying I agree with 1273 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,600 Speaker 1: you with that. You know what I'm saying with the 1274 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: with with the fifty damn, that was a good one. 1275 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 1: That should have made some ship. No, no, it's your birthday. 1276 01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 2: That's the ic to talk and you can sing that. 1277 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: That's the that's the cheat code. But what did we do? What? What? What? 1278 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: What did I pick? What Jada picked on the top five? 1279 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Jada just ran down. It was either you had King 1280 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: Rock or on d M c uh pick a Snooper 1281 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: dre G thing or I think thin would be the 1282 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 1: one Mon's playing tricks on me. D M X up 1283 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: in here w a fuck the police or Compton? What 1284 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 1: did I pick? Yo? 1285 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 2: You gotta stop Layton, that's one of my favorite songs. Late, 1286 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite songs. 1287 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Kidd Yo, your man violating my ship by here tayta 1288 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 1: be on that bullshit. He throw the hoodie over. He 1289 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:58,919 Speaker 1: like standing alone in the four room with us, those missiles, 1290 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 1: those hip hop rays, Biggie Hypmetize, Snoop Dogg. So I said, 1291 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 1: still Dre. I went still Dre, and then I went 1292 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 1: was tupac damn? 1293 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 2: That was great? Those is great. Whole Give it to 1294 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 2: me is one of them ships too. They know that 1295 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 2: ship every where anywhere you could go on with human beings, and. 1296 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Then we're gonna both agree honorary should be in. There 1297 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,639 Speaker 1: is the in the club. It is mad P fifty 1298 01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 1: seve in the club is definitely when the club is 1299 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 1: like the biggest disrespect ever created. You know, we start disrespecting, 1300 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:41,840 Speaker 1: we go to doom doom, but don't yeah with the 1301 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 1: daily satility. That what the delly? You then when realposed 1302 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 1: to be on baby, if you give it to me, 1303 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,720 Speaker 1: I give it to you. You know what that one? 1304 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: You know I got it. 1305 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 2: I can't take y'all. 1306 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Listen boost Mobile, yo, yo, you know what this is? 1307 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 1: Boost Mobile, Jo Crack Jada, stay tuned, number one podcast 1308 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 1: in the game, and we want to smoke with everybody. 1309 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Joe Rogan, I'm talking about Alice Cooper, 1310 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: whoever y'all won Somebody step up please, I'm gonna knock 1311 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 1: your coofie off. 1312 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning into another episode of The Joe 1313 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 2: and Jada Show, sponsored by Presented by Boost Mobile. Joe 1314 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 2: and Jada, Let's go this. Ain't that mean? 1315 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 1: It is? Because it's cracked kids. What