1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Bloomberg eleven LEO through Washington, 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: d C. Bloomber to Boston, Bloomberg twelve hundred to San 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Francisco Bloomberg nine to the countries, Joe is Exam General 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: one nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Dappen Bloomberg got gone. This is taking stock. An update 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yes, they were defeated by the 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors for the first game of the NBA Championship, 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: but billionaire venture Capitas Gordon gunned. He is selling his 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: fifteen percent stake in the Cleveland Cavaliers. This is, of course, 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: their second year that they are playing for the NBA Championship. 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: This all, according to two people familiar with the matter. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: Estimated value of the team one point one billion dollars 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: that comes from valuations expert Peter Schwartz. Once again, the 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Caliber Cavaliers fifteen percent stake of Gordon gund is 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: up for sale. Hats off to our sports reporter Scott's 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Nick for a terrific story. Coming up now, Patrick O'Keefe 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: on the latest jobs report. First to Charlie Pellet in 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the newsroom with a Bloomerck business flash, and I thank 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: you very much, Kathleen, thank you, Pim. We are brought 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: to you by the American Arbitration Association. Business disputes are inevitable, 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: resolve faster with the American Arbitration Association, the global leader 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: in alternative dispute resolution for over eighty five years. Learn 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: more than a d r dot Org. Oil explorers put 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: drilling rigs back to work in US fields for only 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: the second time this Year's supply and demand begin to 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: come closer into balance. Baker Hughes says. Riggs targeting crude 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: in the US rose by nine to three. Twenty five 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: were dropped last week. Crude oil down today by one percent, 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: falling forty eight cents of barrel West Texas Intermediate now 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: at seventy. The dollar plunging the most since December against 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: the euro after jobs growth trailed forecasts, weakening the case 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: for the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates as early 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: as this month. The US economy adding thirty eight thousand workers, 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: unemployment down to four point seven percent. Here's US Labor 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Secretary Tom Perez, Well, this is below expectations, and one 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: thing that I expected was that there would be impact 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: from the Verizon strike. That's why I called him up 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: two or three weeks ago and said, come to my office. 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: We've got to resolve this because your workers and their 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: families are suffering, the company suffering, and the economy suffering. 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: So part of a big part of what we saw 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: on this report was the impact of that strike. And 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: gold today up two point six percent, surging thirty one 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: ten the ounce to twelve forty three, seventy to thirty 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: two on Wall Street. Now, let's take a look at 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: other news from around the world. Charlie, Thank you. From 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg news Room by Mark Crompton. A search is 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: still underway at ford Hood, Texas, for four soldiers who 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: remained missing after their truck overturned Thursday in a rain 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: swollen creek. Here's ford Hood spokesman Chris Howe. Accidents and 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: isn't tragic The laws of unfolded One. Three others pulled 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: from the water remain hospitalized in stable condition. Parts of 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Texas have been inundated with rain in the last week, 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: and more than half of the state is under flood 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: watches or warnings, including the county's near Fort Hood at 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: least six people died in floods last week in central 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and southeast Texas. How Speaker Paul Ryan is announcing the 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: launch of the House GOP election year agenda project. Titled 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: a Better Way. It lists six proposals, including some to 60 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: help lift Americans out of poverty. We can start to 61 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: tackle our problems before they tackle us. This is what 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Americans do. We don't accept the client we don't give 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: into division. We find a better way. Speaker Ryan may 64 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: the announcement during the Republican's Weekly Address, which was released today, 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: one day earlier than usual. New York City's top financial 66 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: officer says the city's child welfare agency didn't properly monitor 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: provide writers who were supervising troubled miners as part of 68 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: a citywide juvenile justice program. Controller Scott Stringer says the 69 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: city's Administration for Children Service quote abdicated its responsibility. He 70 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: found in and audited that city workers sometimes skip visits 71 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: to group homes and missed calls and visits to check 72 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: on the children. Global News twenty four hours a day, 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: powered by our hundred journalists and more than one hundred 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: fifty news bureaus around the world from the Bloomberg Newsroom. 75 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm Mark Crumpton, Charlie, and we thank you and again 76 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: recapping a move lawer for stocks. We are well off 77 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: our session Low's SMP five hundred index down five at 78 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: two thousand ninety nine, down three tenths of one percent. 79 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pallafat's of Bloomberg Business Flash. You're listening to 80 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Taking Stock with Bim Box and Kathleen Hayes on Bloomberg Radio. Now, 81 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: Marry how slice it? It's hard to call today's May 82 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: employment report from the US Labor Department anything but disappointing, 83 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: if not week joining us now to dissect the report, 84 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: what it means for the economy, and what it means 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: for the Fed Reserve as it gets ready to meet 86 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: on June fourteenth and debate whether or not to high 87 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: rates again. Patrick o'cafe he is director of economic research 88 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: at Cone Resnick. He's also a former Deputy Assistant Secretary 89 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: at the Department of Labor. Patrick, welcome back to the show. 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: It's great to be here. What is your take? Let 91 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: me just sum up for our listeners yet again, only 92 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: thirty eight net new jobs. Unemployment falling because so many 93 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: people left the labor force wages pretty much flat. What 94 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: does it tell you, Well, it was a report that 95 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: made pessimists like myself. I was one of the low 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: predictors on this one. Made the pessimists look like Pollyanna's 97 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: And it just was totally unexpected. I know. The secretary 98 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: pointed to the strike as being one of the reasons 99 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: why jobs growth was down, but uh, this is the 100 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: smallest increment of jobs since the jobs recovery began, uh 101 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: seventy six months ago. Even if we UH discount the 102 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: impact of this of the of the strike, we go 103 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: from being the weakest in seventy six months to the 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: sixth weakest since in seventy six months. It um, it 105 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: was to be expected that there was deceleration in the 106 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: labor market, particularly in the jobs part of it, going forward. 107 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: This is a mature recovery, but these numbers were were 108 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: far weaker than any of us anticipated. All right, Patrick, 109 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: and wondering if you could explain, because when you, let's say, 110 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: when you decide you want to have a softball team, right, 111 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: and you pick all the best players you want to pick, 112 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: you pick them usually the first is there anything to 113 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: indicate that we are at the very end of the 114 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: hiring cycle as a result of so many workers having 115 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: already gone back to work. UM, there are still plenty 116 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: of job seekers and potential job seekers. As Kathleen pointed out, 117 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: the labor force participation dropped dramatically in this particular month. 118 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: What we have to realize is that the five percent 119 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: unemployment rate or the four point nine unemployment rate is 120 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: drawn down because of people withdrawing from the labor force. 121 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: So they don't disappear. They're out there, they're willing to work, 122 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: they would look for work, but they're frustrated they haven't 123 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: been able to find work. And so I don't think 124 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: we have a shortage of labor. We may have some 125 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: mismatches in terms of what the qualified qualifications for the 126 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: jobs are and the qualifications of the employees seeking them, 127 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: but overall this is UM is not a situation where 128 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: we have inadequate supply. And in fact, if you look 129 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: at the broader measure of unemployment, the underemployment rate is 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: still up at nine point which does include of course 131 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: people working part time because they can't find full time jobs, etcetera. 132 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Uh I was exchanging some emails with then Irana Cultural 133 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: Lacoda this morning in earlier this afternoon, who is a 134 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: former president at the Minneapolis FED, and of course he 135 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: has been also uh, certainly barish on the notion that 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: the FED should be raising rates. If anything, he thinks 137 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: they might have to contemplate negative rates. He said, of 138 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: course that what's more troubling to him. He said, you know, 139 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: if you look at the household employment figures, the survey 140 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: of people actually who have jobs or don't have them. Patrick, Uh, 141 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: maybe the report wasn't so bad, but his concern is 142 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: that inflation remains far from the Fed's target, and inflation 143 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: expectations remain so low, and they aren't rising. And one 144 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: of the reasons why they're not rising is because the 145 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: FED continues to rely on the definition of an unemployment 146 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: rate that doesn't acknowledge the substantial drop that we've had 147 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: in labor force participation. We play around with something called 148 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the participation adjusted to unemployment rate, where we go back 149 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: and we say, if not for the drop in participation, 150 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: where would the unemployment rate be? Depending on the assumptions 151 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: you want to use for that counter factual, we're fairly 152 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: confident that the unemployment rate in any reasonable sense is 153 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: still above eight percent. Still yes, when you take account 154 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: of of people withdrawing out of frustration because they couldn't 155 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: find jobs, that's then you get that high rate. So 156 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: can we just get that that? You know? The question 157 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: we have to ask about the Fed June July, September 158 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: me up am I made me not until then? UM? 159 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: I think for the FED, UM, the f O m 160 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: C has made the case repeatedly that their data dependent. 161 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: What they, I think are realizing now is that the 162 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: data is not dependable. The market and the economy overall 163 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: has had a long run. It's been a fairly good run, 164 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: all things considered. But this is a mature recovery and 165 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: we can't look for it to accelerate, particularly given external conditions. 166 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: So uh that I don't think the said moves this summer. 167 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't think the said is going to move before 168 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: the election. How about home construction and consumer spending? Both 169 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: of those reports were pretty good. They were pretty good 170 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: this month, but overall, home construction is still well down 171 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: from where it was prerecession. UH. Consumer spending is up, 172 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: but not not up so much that the savings rate 173 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: has UH tipped down. Much of the the household sector 174 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: is spending, but a lot of what they're spending is 175 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: the benefit of lower gas prices, and as gas prices 176 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: move up, that's going to rearrange where that money's being spent. 177 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us. 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