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Speaker 1: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Gilette Stadium.

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Speaker 1: If you joined us right away, you heard Bill Belichick. Um,

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Speaker 1: mac Jones is going to be starting. We knew that

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Speaker 1: yesterday because of a report by Field Yates. Uh he's

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Um, we knew yesterday that mac Jones is

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Speaker 1: when Bill kept saying yesterday, we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: I think that you and I talked about it on

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Speaker 1: I think he's just making sure physically he's okay after practice,

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy about it. I didn't think the identity

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Speaker 1: important to Max. Oh no, no, no no, obviously it's important

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Speaker 1: important that the team is on the same page and

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Speaker 1: you know, they move forward. I would have liked him

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Speaker 1: He's he's ready to go him and he said clearly

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Speaker 1: like when you explain things to me. There was a moment.

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Speaker 1: He did give me his pet he sent he sent

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Speaker 1: his picks in. Oh, that's good. We have that, so

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Speaker 1: takes a little time sometimes, you know, taking shots at

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Speaker 1: looking Oh, it's just your baseline now, Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: it's just I'm only up from here. No, I'm simpatico

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Speaker 1: conditional seven that you're gonna get when you trade them,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. Screw, that's like a third round

422
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: pick for a guy who's like lost his job. Foreborghini

423
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: is floor as a Pro Bowl guard. But anyway, um, yeah,

424
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: so that that's something to watch because the deadline is

425
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: next week Tuesday, Tuesday. Yeah. So yeah, when I said

426
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose any assets. I mean, I don't.

427
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm not looking to deal like a fourth round pick

428
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: to acquire you know, some linebacker who may or may

429
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 1: not factor into the equation. Yea. You know, now if

430
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: I could get something for nothing, you know, every once

431
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: in a while at the trade deadline, and Bill has

432
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: done this in the past, you know, you require someone's disgruntled,

433
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: talented play like a NIKEEP to leave. Is always the

434
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: guy uses the example. Yeah, if something like that fell

435
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: into my lap, I wouldn't mind something like that I

436
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: could use, you know, going forward, but in terms of

437
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: a rental for the rest of the year, which is

438
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: generally the guys that are available at this time of year. Now,

439
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm not really interested in giving up a mid, mid

440
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: to late round pick for a guy who's not really

441
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: going to make a difference. Ye did I hear correctly

442
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: probably that the Patriots are favored in this game. Yes,

443
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: I find that very surprising. I think it's hit hard

444
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: by those two injuries. I think I think that's true,

445
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: and I think it's largely. It doesn't mean I'm right,

446
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: but this is what I've been saying about the Jets

447
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: all year, is like I don't understand how they keep winning.

448
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: They're like, they don't throw the ball that you don't

449
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: have rainy success. They have a good defense, they have

450
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: a good defense, they do, but they're just not very good.

451
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: And now they have a rookie quarterback who has been

452
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: pretty well protected to this point. They're missing a pretty

453
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: prominent linemen. This kid's going to be under pressure now. Yeah,

454
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: I mean they have like three linemen out now. Well

455
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: they say that like he's the most splitz guy in

456
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: the league so far, has been something Yeah, yeah, I

457
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: mean I just look at it at number three or

458
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 1: something like that. They only, you know, they only have

459
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: one way to win, and that's a low scoring, mucket

460
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: up kind of game and get the breaks at the

461
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: end and find a way. Now, to their credit, they've

462
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: won four a row doing that. Yeah, they deserve credit.

463
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: I also think it's I know, the parcels thing, but

464
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: that's not always true. The whole Your record is what

465
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: you know you are, what your record says you are.

466
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes you really can get fortunate and the path and

467
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: I think that they are making the Patriots seven game

468
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: winning streak last year far more impressive than what the

469
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: Jets have done this year. I mean, they scored twice

470
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: in the last minute to beat Cleveland, and a fluke

471
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: of all flukes where if Nick Chubb just takes a

472
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: knee they lose. And even though I think he did

473
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: the right thing whatever, they played the Dolphins, and not

474
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: only they're without Tua, but on the first play of

475
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: the game, the backup quarterback has to go out and

476
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: they still needed the missfield goal in the fourth quarter

477
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: to hold on. They would have fallen behind in the

478
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: fourth quarter if Jason Sanders didn't miss a field goal. Right.

479
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: They play the Broncos last week in Denver. No Russell Wilson. Like,

480
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: I know, Russell Wilson hasn't played well, but this is

481
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: a guy who, right, would you rather play Brett Rippon

482
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: or Russell Wilson? Right? Like, I think they've been extremely

483
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: fortunate in the way everything is sort of unfolded for them.

484
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Are they better? Yep? They have good young talent, They've

485
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: gotten better. They've had a good draft. They've had a

486
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: couple of good drafts. Now I just don't think they

487
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: had that good. Yeah. Now, you could just pencil and

488
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: everything I just said about the Jets and the race

489
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: Jets and put in Chicago, and it would all be

490
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: kind of the same, right, And we saw what happened

491
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: last month coming out before this game, and I'm not

492
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna say there's no chance I did last week. I'll

493
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: tell you that. Yeah. You know what a weird thing

494
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: I noticed about the Jets kind of a like a

495
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: schedule quirk. The first four games of the year, they

496
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: played AFC North teams. They got it all out of

497
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, like you know, we the AFC East

498
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: lined up with the AFC North this year, so you know,

499
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: we played Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, and balt More. They played

500
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: those four teams week one, two, three, and four, Baltimore, Cleveland, uh,

501
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and then Pittsburgh. You find that interesting, don't you

502
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: think that's kind of odd? It's a schedule quirk. Yeah,

503
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: well that's what I called it. Yeah, quirk. Yeah, I

504
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: just said it was. But now they're now they're hitting

505
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: the meat of their schedule, right, Uh. I don't know, Like, yeah,

506
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: they don't have the whole thing. You know, they went Baltimore, Cleveland,

507
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: since Pittsburgh, and then they went Miami, Green Bay, Denver. Yeah,

508
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, and and the Green Bay win. I give

509
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: them full points for I think Green Bay's a mess.

510
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: But they went to lambeau Field and Blue Doors. I mean,

511
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: I give them credit for that win, but I think

512
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: there was a lot of good fortune otherwise. Well, I

513
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, I mean, listen, when we went to

514
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: the Jets last year, the game ended up not being closed,

515
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: but it was. But it was much more competitive than

516
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: it looked. And I kept throwing interception. I would agree

517
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: with you on that. Yeah, they would move the ball

518
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: a little bit and he'd he'd give it to us

519
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: and set up a touchdown. And then they move the

520
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: ball a little bit and he'd throw it to us

521
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: and set up another touchdown. That's how that game went.

522
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: And even then it was like twenty four to six

523
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, twenty five to six maybe,

524
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, ye, So the game wasn't doubt for

525
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. So, I been a long time

526
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: since the day. I'm just praying, you know, I got

527
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: my rosary beads out. I'm I'm I'm hoping that Mac

528
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: has a good game, because you know what, if I'm

529
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: the Jets fans, I'm yelling zappy every time he's out

530
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: in the field, it's going to be bus. That's the chance. Well,

531
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: who do you who would you rather face? No, but

532
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm just to get into Max's head. I'm saying, yeah,

533
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: but I'm asking you if you want to call for Zappy,

534
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: careful what you wish for. Well, okay, but I'm I'm

535
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: doing that as a mean spirited thing. That's what Chicago was. Like.

536
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Chicago came out on the radio, like I don't think

537
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: it was from the Bears specifically, but they said they

538
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: would rather have Mac come back in before the game. Yeah, Like,

539
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that was from the Bears themselves, right,

540
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: that was the talk on talk radio. Oh yeah, yeah,

541
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: when we had our our guest on on. Because they

542
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: think because they think Zappy's better or that Max's not

543
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: I think I think they felt like Zappy was hot. Yeah,

544
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, let's get the guy who hasn't played it

545
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: is supposed to the guy who's who's coming in on

546
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: a on a hot streak. Now, it turned out they

547
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: played them both, and they both The dissection of this

548
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: game is going to be brutal, like what plays were

549
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: called for Mac, you know, the whole thing. I leave

550
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: that to the smart people. No, but the smart people

551
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: are gonna have a field day with this one. Yeah,

552
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: you know whatever. But but the thing is, and like

553
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: I said before, it's important that we on this show

554
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: are objective and don't come at it from a certain angle,

555
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: you know. So if the plays look like they're the

556
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: same plays that have always been called for Mac, we

557
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: need to be honest about that and say, what if

558
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: people disagree? What do you mean I think this? I

559
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: think there's some disagreement on that. Like I but I'm

560
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: listening like Rant and Rave, you know, why don't you

561
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, why don't you let him go under center?

562
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Like Zappy doesn't? Then Zappie comes in the game in

563
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: the first three plays in the shotgun, like, right, what

564
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: he's complaining about is not actually happening. Well, that's what

565
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, but it's it's over now, forget it.

566
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: It's fact. Yeah, it's out there. I mean. So it's

567
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: not only that they're calling all different plays, they're trying

568
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: to do it on purpose. Right, So I think the

569
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: horses left the barn. It's like, but you know, great

570
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: Badard and Dan Orlovsky, Chris Simms is he's another cat.

571
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: But I mean these guys like, you know, they're professionals, right,

572
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: Why would they think that an offensive coordinator in a

573
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach would trying to sabotage their own player clicks?

574
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: Really a views? But but isn't that like diminish their credibility? Yeah?

575
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not necessarily clicks and page views

576
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: for guys like Ulowski and Chris Simms who don't really

577
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: have pages to click. They're just on TV. Yeah, but

578
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: they need a narrative, so they're looking at our local

579
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: guys see what's being written about. Oh, this will maybe

580
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: move the needle on TV. I don't know, everyone's like,

581
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone really maybe like Mike Greaves and

582
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Karen Like, who's going through this with Like, Okay, I'm

583
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: gonna have integrity. I'm gonna like use journalism ethics. Like

584
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: it's all how can I how can I tweet out

585
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: this one quote in a way that'll get me the

586
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: most retweets and likes and will look a certain way.

587
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: It's it's always the motive. But what they're accusing or implicate,

588
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, implying, is to me is sports treason. It's treason, right,

589
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: And that's it's like it's like at the end of

590
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: the day, we're on a team and you may not

591
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: like the guy, but you're you gotta go in it

592
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: to win it, and that it's treason that you know.

593
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: And that's my problem. Yeah, it's not the plays, because

594
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: if you want to tell, like Daniloski knows more about

595
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: football than I like forgotten, more than I'll ever know,

596
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: he got the guy played in the NFL. He played quarterback, right,

597
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: So I'm not telling you that he's wrong that the

598
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: plays aren't different. I'm sure they are different, but yeah,

599
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't care that they're different. I wanted them to

600
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: be different because I know what Mac Jones did last

601
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: year with that offense wasn't good enough. And I know

602
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: he could have done what Bailey Zappy did if they

603
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: if he was given the same opportunities. That's not my question.

604
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: My question is can the offense get to a different level?

605
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: Can they do can they do some things differently? And

606
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: can Mac do that? Now? Maybe he can't. This is

607
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: why I said, I'm not letting Mac off the hook

608
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: for turning the ball over just because they're calling different plays.

609
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: But I think you cross into a different area when

610
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: you say that they're setting Mac up to fail, so

611
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Zappy looks yeah, and you know, so people could say, well, okay,

612
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: you know Mac can do what Zappy did, do it

613
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: because Zappi won with it. But Bill might be thinking,

614
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: in Patricia, we've got to get this offense better. We're

615
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: not just thinking about today. We're thinking about how in

616
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: the hell are we going to compete with Kansas City

617
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. And if we don't start now, if we

618
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: don't start now and move from offense one oh one

619
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: to two oh one, we're never gonna get there. Right.

620
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: You know, we can't start that in December. You don't

621
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: want we have to start second year quarterback playing like

622
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: he would a first year quarterback. There's no evolution there, right,

623
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: we have to, like Paul said, we have to get

624
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: better than we were last year. And that might be

625
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: part of the problem, is it's not there. Yeah, like

626
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: Max not better with these you know, alterations to the offense.

627
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: That might be part of the problem. It could be

628
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: I just I'm not saying that that's what Matt Patricia wants. Yeah,

629
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Speaker 1: Like I can't go there. He wants them to fail, right,

630
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: he wants to sabotage him, like and that's the word

631
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: that I keep hearing it's it's a fireball offense, and

632
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe he would do that. I just I

633
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: just refuse, and it's just like totally illogical, like think

634
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, yeah, we got uh close to speaking

635
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: of thinking it out practice up. Yeah, so incomes Evan.

636
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: So now we're gonna find out Mac Jones wasn't that.

637
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Guess where Evan was practice? All right, Evan,

638
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: what do you got? Same practice attendance as yesterday? Not

639
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: really much new more to report than that. No David Andrews,

640
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: no Christian Barmore, no Kyle Dugger at practice today. We

641
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: only got stretching, So I cannot tell you much more

642
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: than that because there are, you know, some big pieces

643
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: there obviously, and I think, look with with Belichick naming

644
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Mac the starter this morning at least for Sunday, the

645
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: center situation is really interesting because obviously we know, on

646
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: top of just physically playing the position, the mental side

647
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: of playing center, making the calls, helping the quarterback out

648
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: pre snap and things like that is a big part

649
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: of what makes David Andrews extremely valuable. Now, I assume

650
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: would be James Ferrens, who has probably just as much

651
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: knowledge at this point of the Patriots protection schemes as

652
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: David Andrews does. So hopefully penalties, so hopefully that won't

653
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: be as big of a transition wow mentally there. But

654
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: I like David Ferrens, but he's good for at least

655
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: a penalty against James. But that's okay, a close friends,

656
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: I can see this guy. I worry about Cole Strange

657
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: a little bit because I do think David Andrews has

658
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: really helped Cole Strange. Yeah, I do think. You know, Look,

659
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's one hundred percent a pattern

660
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: with it, but I do think that in situations where

661
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: they are in five man protect and they are trying

662
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: to get the ball down the field, more times than not,

663
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: I would say that David Andrews is opening left right

664
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: like he's snapping the ball and he's going to help

665
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: Cole Strange versus go snapping the ball and going to

666
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: help Mike on WHENU right. I don't think it's one

667
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time or no, you know, completely calculated,

668
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: but I do think that there are instances for sure

669
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: on the tape where Cole Strange is getting help from

670
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: the center where Mike on WHENU is taking the majority

671
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: of the one on ones, and in a week that

672
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, you sort of I don't want to say

673
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: under fire, but you know, there's been a lot of confusion,

674
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: the lack of a better word, offensively, I would say

675
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: that the voice of your offense is David Andrews. He

676
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 1: was the guy who stepped up in the summer when

677
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: things we're not looking so hot out there, and he

678
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: was on the field. We saw him do it off

679
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: the field with us. We saw him talk passionately about

680
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: things like that. I think his presence will be missed. Yeah,

681
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that. You know, the Jets are not

682
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: a big blitzing team. Their zone team a Seattle three

683
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: type of system, so it's not a big blitz system. Obviously,

684
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: they could game plan and blitz and blitz more this

685
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: week than maybe they have in past weeks, but just

686
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: on the whole, it's not really known to be a

687
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: big blitzing system. But what they do will do upfront

688
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: is stunt a lot. So there's a lot of post

689
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: snap recognition and post snap communication, maybe more so than

690
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: pre snap in a game like this, so that that'll

691
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: be something to monitor as well, the Patriots has done

692
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: a decent job of picking up stunts so far this year,

693
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: but that'll certainly be something that the Jets will try

694
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: to do against them on Sunday. And then you also

695
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: have to worry about you know, Quinnin Williams, John Franklin

696
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: Myers two really good rushers, but this is a rush

697
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: four type of team, but they do scheme it up

698
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: a little bit with the pass rush. Okay, what else

699
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: was going on out there? What was you know now

700
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: that it's known that Mac is going to be the starter,

701
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: did that affect the mood at all? I wouldn't say

702
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: it affect the mood at all. Idea affect a mood?

703
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: I was a little bit A little bit, Yeah, I

704
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: think that as well. The biggest thing is and look,

705
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I know that Belichick wouldn't commit to it being a

706
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: long term designation, which I'm sure I heard you guys

707
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: talking a little bit about before I went out to practice.

708
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing is is now I

709
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: would I would move on from all of the Monday

710
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: night comparisons between Bailey Zappy and Mac Jones and looking

711
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: at it like okay and Max eleven drop backs he

712
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: had ex plays under center and ex play action calls

713
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: and Zappy had X play action and X under center

714
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: and like going back and forth about how exactly they

715
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: called the game on Monday night and look at it

716
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: from a more bigger picture sense of, Okay, how do

717
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: we get Mac back on the tracks now? Exactly? Because

718
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: he's the starting quarterback and I think that Belichick made

719
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: that clear today when he named him the starter for

720
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: Sunday and then also said that this was basically always

721
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: injury related, like once they felt like Mac was a

722
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: full go, which he is now off the injury report.

723
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: In Belichick use those exact words full go. There's really

724
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: no conversation for the head coach. It's it's Mac. So

725
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: now we have to turn the page to what are

726
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: they doing that has led to this statistical regression for

727
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Mac and how can they fix it moving forward? Yeah,

728
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: we were talking just before you came on that. You know,

729
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: we know that Mac can run the plays that Zappi's

730
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: running or ran, but are those plays going to get

731
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: this offense better to a point where you can compete

732
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: with the big boys? Yea? And if the answers no,

733
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: then the time to start the next progression of This

734
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: offense is now, not December, not next year, it's now,

735
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: and that could be part of the issue. You know,

736
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: what we're seeing is like, Okay, so Mac comes in there,

737
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: and we want to run offense two oh one. We

738
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: don't want to run offense one oh one, Right, And

739
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: that's why they're doing That's why it looks different. Yeah,

740
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: definitely an argument to be made that quarterback with over

741
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: seven hundred drop backs in the NFL is going to

742
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: be more comfortable opening up the playbook a little bit

743
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 1: more or pushing the ball down to feel a little

744
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: bit more than the quarterback that has one hundred and

745
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: twenty or whatever it is that Zappy has under his

746
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: belt at this point. But I think the biggest thing

747
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: for me is they've gone from like A to Z

748
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: in one off season. Right. They were at a last

749
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: year with an offense that looked similar, had similar roots

750
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: to what they were doing with Bailey Zappy, and now

751
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: they're in a completely different offense with Mac Jones this

752
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: season that's very heavily vertical based. And you look at

753
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: the percentages, just to like put tangible evidence into this.

754
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Last year, Mac Jones is deep passing rate, how many

755
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: times he was throwing the ball twenty plus yards in

756
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: the year was eleven point eight percent, twenty first in

757
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. This year it's twenty point four percent, almost double,

758
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: and now he's second in the league in the NFL.

759
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: So can we get fifteen percent right? Can we get

760
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: a middle ground here? And I think that's the biggest

761
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: thing for me is that, Okay, they've basically eliminated a

762
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: quick game, which is like you know, slant flat or

763
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: like a curl or a hitch route where the ball's

764
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: just coming out of his hands. He's reading is it man,

765
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: is its zone, and he's making a throw based off

766
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: of where the open guy is almost instantly. It's quick

767
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: call quick game for a reason because the ball is

768
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: supposed to come out quickly. They've basically eliminated that. They've

769
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: cut down screens. They don't run as many screens, and

770
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: McDaniels was a screen guy, so they don't run as

771
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: many screens as they did last year. So everything that

772
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: he's throwing now is down the field. It's vertical based.

773
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily saying that that's not about it's

774
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: a good idea to have more of that, I guess

775
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting at but why are we going

776
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: from you know, not as much of it to all

777
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: of it? You know, there has to be some sort

778
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: of balance between the two things. And I asked Mac

779
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: about it yesterday, just was this were you consulted about

780
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: making this chance? Was this something that you're happy that

781
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: they've changed and morph the offense into. And he said,

782
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: good offenses can throw every type of pass, short, medium, long,

783
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he said. And I look at the

784
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 1: way that they're breaking it down right now, just based

785
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: off of the numbers and off of the tape, and

786
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: it's way too much of one type of pass. And

787
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: when you play like that, as we've seen other offenses

788
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: play like that, you know, I keep going back to

789
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: Bruce arians right, and like Jameis Winston in the thirty

790
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: thirty season, like you're gonna make big plays, you're gonna

791
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: have good moments, but you're also going to have turnovers.

792
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what we've seen so far from Mac

793
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: and the games that he's played. So I'm not saying

794
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: that they have to go all the way back to

795
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: square one, but you know, they've went from one to

796
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: five or one to one hundred, real fast here, like,

797
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: can we go from one to fifty, right, and maybe

798
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: save some of these deeper plays down the field for

799
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: better situations in the game, all right, And I don't

800
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't have any any fact to back this up up.

801
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I guess is to Evan's point, they probably would have

802
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: moved to that as they started off the season. They were,

803
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, turning the ball over a ton, and then

804
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: he got hurt, you know, and they didn't really get

805
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: a chance to evolve into Okay, what do we do best?

806
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: We went from this and now we're going to this

807
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: extreme the way Evan talked about it. Let's see if

808
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: we can find some middle ground and figure out what

809
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: are the players downfield that Mac is actually comfortable with,

810
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: and then what are the things the staples that he

811
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: had success with last year that we want to continue

812
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: maybe to incorporate a little bit more often. And then

813
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: they didn't really get a chance to do that. It

814
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: was kind of a working out process, and then he

815
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: got hurt in the third game. Yeah, I guess, I think,

816
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was hoping the same thing, right, I

817
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: was hoping that when he came back from this injury

818
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: that they were going to recognize and it's not just

819
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: it's not just max skill set, right, it's also the

820
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: players on the team and what the other receivers are

821
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: best at, and the fact that you have these two

822
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: tight ends that you want to incorporate, and you have

823
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: an offensive line that quite frankly has some question marks

824
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: on it right now. You have a rookie starting at guard,

825
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: you have some tackle issues that have come up over

826
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. So I don't know if

827
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: Mac Jones holding the ball for three seconds waiting for

828
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: the plays to develop down the field is fitting their

829
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: offense the best. And I was hoping for that. But

830
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: in the eleven dropbacks that we did see from Mac

831
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: on Monday night, it was the same offense that they

832
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: were running in weeks one through three. So and that

833
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: is in a zero zero game, you know, opening drive,

834
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: opening script, and you're still scripting these downfield plays. So

835
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: maybe they come to Jesus eventually with and what you

836
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: don't know is what would have happened had he stayed

837
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: in right, Like did they like was that part of

838
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: the script? What they did? Not taking Mac out? But

839
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the play calls, like the sequence because

840
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: it was two three and ounce, you know, like I

841
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: don't know again and I before you came on't like,

842
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm not like absolving mac Jones in this right he

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Speaker 1: has a play, well, yeah, like neither of mine, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's kind of getting lost because

845
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Speaker 1: it's just such a knee jerk to say, well, they're

846
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Speaker 1: setting them up to fail. It's sabotage. And you know

847
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Speaker 1: you're hearing it like from from Morelovsky and Chris Simms,

848
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, as well as Bodard. But that to me

849
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: is completely ignoring the fact that the guy is turning

850
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Speaker 1: the ball over it in alarming rate. I don't care

851
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Speaker 1: what play is called, you're supposed to execute it, and

852
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Speaker 1: they're not executing them often enough. The response, and I

853
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Speaker 1: hear you, I think the response I'd have to that

854
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: is is what they're calling from just a fundamental standpoint.

855
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: Fit the quarterback right, because you know, I think there's

856
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: throws that are going around Twitter, right and obviously the

857
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: interception was a bad one. The interception it's post wheel like,

858
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: it's two vertical routes on that side of the field.

859
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: They're trying to flood the zone and get a ball

860
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: down the field. Him fitting the football into between two

861
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: zone defenders twenty five yards down the field. Is he

862
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: built for that? No? Also, it was a pass under

863
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: duress and he just shouldn't have made it. It wasn't

864
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: he was a bad decision. You could set his feet.

865
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: He threw it off the back foot like it was

866
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: almost like one of those gotta have it plays in practice,

867
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: you know, And it wasn't a gotta have it play.

868
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: You could throw it away. But that's second down, right,

869
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: It's second down, and they're calling plays for him to

870
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field and fit it in

871
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: between two zone defenders. And you know there's another play

872
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: that's going around where Jacoe Myers puts his hand up

873
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: and he doesn't see him down the sideline. It's a

874
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: thirty five yard whole shot against cover two. Right. You

875
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: had said that yesterday, and I talked about that a

876
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: little bit with some some other people would Scott Zolak

877
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: is strongly in agreement with you on that particular part.

878
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: Are you kidding like Josh Allen, like why why do

879
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: you think he's going to be able to make that?

880
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: He said he might hit that one out of ten, right,

881
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: And regardless of how you know his tools and all

882
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's it's just a low percentage

883
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: throw to begin with for him to be able to

884
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: hit that throw and the arm straight that it takes

885
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: to make that type of throw, especially given the fact

886
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: that it's not your first read in the progression, so

887
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: you're basically coming off the seam and then getting out

888
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: to the vertical and then you're a little bit late

889
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: to it and everybody's like, oh, well, the safety's you know,

890
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: shaded inside. That's Jaquan Brisker, the guy that picked him

891
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: off later in the game by making a ridiculous one

892
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Speaker 1: handed catch on the ball after Matt kicked him in

893
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Speaker 1: the NaNs. Yeah, so that's a safety. That's ultra athletic.

894
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Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson and Jakuon Brisker a really rangy players. And

895
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Speaker 1: I had made that comment the other night too in

896
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Speaker 1: the post games. Like, for all the things that we

897
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Speaker 1: sort of criticize the Bears about heading into the game,

898
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: the one thing that no one really talked about. I

899
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: don't know if it was circumstantial with all their games,

900
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: but the secondary has good numbers. Yeah, Like they were

901
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: like the third game has defense in football. Yeah, and

902
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: it's a sound scheme that gave them trouble last year

903
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: when they were in Indianapolis. So I just think that

904
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: there's which no one also talked when you look at

905
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: the big picture now of moving on from this quarterback

906
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: saga and with Mac being the starter at least for Sunday,

907
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: and I think that that really is beyond until he

908
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: loses the job. I think, right, let's set but ask

909
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: me again, I had about four thirty on Sunday. Right,

910
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: Let's get him playing well again. Yes, And if you

911
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: think that's the key to the rest of this season

912
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: is to get him back right. And if you think

913
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: that him trying to hit the cover two hole thirty

914
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: five yards down the field to Jacobe Meyers on his

915
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: second read or third read in the progression is the

916
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: best way to run an offense for the quarterback that

917
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: you drafted, then we just disagree because I just don't

918
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: see how that's what's best for him. I you know,

919
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: what's best for him is getting the ball out quickly,

920
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: using play action to create bigger passing lanes and more

921
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: open receivers down the field, like calculated shots down the

922
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: field like they used to do with McDaniels, And it

923
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: wasn't just with with Mac. You know that that was

924
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: the Brady offense for a lot of years too. It

925
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: was never you know, except for Randy Moss and I

926
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: guess you know times with Brandon Cooks, Like it was

927
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: never an aired out offense to begin with back then, either.

928
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: So I just I don't see how they evaluated it

929
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: and said, you know, a vertical based offense where Mac

930
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: is gonna lead the league in deep passing rate and

931
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: be near the top of the league and average depth

932
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: of the target, like this was the best thing for

933
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: us to do with this type of quarterback. Like you're

934
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: just making you know, you're shoving a round hole into

935
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Speaker 1: a square path. To that point, David and Bethlehem writes

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Speaker 1: in a web radio atpages dot com, Guys, with respect,

937
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: you are using the investigating scope backwards. Teams should start

938
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Speaker 1: with the skills your players have and grow them. Trotters

939
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: are not thoroughbreds at gallopers, not an ambler scheme without

940
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: respecting players' abilities is what we have seen. Patricia is

941
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: a neophyte offensive coordinator, offensive line coach, schemer and has

942
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: retarded Max's development and who has said Judge is going

943
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: to is going great guns, stop the progression, peatree, dish stuff.

944
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Please look at the skills of the guys you have.

945
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to do. Well, That's exactly what

946
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. I'm trying to figure out if

947
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: I have a guy worth investing in moving forward. No,

948
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Speaker 1: but I said that if they're trying to go from

949
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Speaker 1: offense one oh one to two oh one, that might

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Speaker 1: be what he's talking right. And if he can't do it,

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Speaker 1: he thinks he can't do it. Clearly d David thinks

952
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Speaker 1: he can. We don't have a quarterback so exactly. And

953
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Speaker 1: I want to find that out now, not three years

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Speaker 1: from now when I'm deciding on his fifty year option

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Speaker 1: to do because I'm gonna bang this point home. Last year,

957
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958
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Speaker 1: have to get half dollar for every time Fred said

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00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: that on this show. Well, I've never heard a team

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Speaker 1: I've actually been making a reasonable salary. It Obviously it

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Speaker 1: affected me because I'm just getting reminded of but that

962
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Speaker 1: and that's and I totally agree, and I don't disagree

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Speaker 1: with David. I think there are some signs. Like Evan

964
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Speaker 1: just said on that Jacoby Myers play, I don't think

965
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Speaker 1: that's a throw we can make, not consistently, and now

966
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Speaker 1: it's not a lot of it's to a lot of

967
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Speaker 1: He's just got that type of raw physical you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a specimen. Okay, But then there's other quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: it takes three or four years, two full years of mess. Right.

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Speaker 1: So the Patriots with Mac Jones, of what are fast

976
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Speaker 1: forwarding through his development? For some reason, we have we

977
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981
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Speaker 1: keep him in the whole game? I think he stays.

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Speaker 1: No pulling him out this game unless he gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: I think injury would be yeah, unless he gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: But which is easy for him because yeah, he can

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Speaker 1: But I think that if you take him out against

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1257
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: of the season. I think the leasha's nine games, you can't.

1258
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: So you think there's no amount of poor play that

1259
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: he can put forth that they would make a change, No,

1260
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: because I think if you're making that kind of change

1261
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: at this point of the season, it's kind of like

1262
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: the Cam Jared Stidham thing, right, It's I think at

1263
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: this point you're you're on a path and you stick

1264
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: to it, and switching the quarterback in week fourteen, you know,

1265
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: when you're when you're I don't know, four in seven

1266
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: or whatever the record would be. I don't. I can't

1267
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: do math off the top of my head, but whatever

1268
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: the record is, I mean, like, what's the point, right,

1269
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if that's true, and I don't,

1270
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily disagree with you, guys. I think it

1271
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: might be him for the nine games whatever ten games left.

1272
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: That makes the decision to me Monday night even stranger, Like,

1273
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,959
Speaker 1: it wasn't health related that he came out of the game.

1274
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't. That's what they want you to believe. But

1275
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: he had said we didn't think he could play the

1276
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: whole game due to health reasons. He didn't say he

1277
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: came out of the game at the time he came

1278
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: out for health, and in fact, he said no, that

1279
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: wasn't why, and he said it wasn't pretty planned that

1280
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: he came out after the third series. And I know

1281
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: that they're not saying, you know, he got he bristled

1282
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: when Phil Perry said it kind of looked like there

1283
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: was performance. Well, you can write whatever you want. I

1284
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: think that was him saying, yeah, I know why you said.

1285
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: I can see why you're saying it that way, and

1286
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: like he didn't have like the strength to just say no, well,

1287
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: yeah he's gonna because he's not gonna. He's not gonna

1288
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: tell you. And I personally think he didn't say it today.

1289
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: But what Evans said is right. I think that he plans.

1290
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: Bill's thought process right now is he's healthy, he's back,

1291
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: he's the starter. We don't have questions going back and

1292
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: forth now, but I think that that could change based

1293
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: on his play if he continues to turn it over

1294
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: at an alarming rate. I don't think it's gonna happen son,

1295
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: and I think I think he would have to do.

1296
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: And that's what he was talking about. You know when

1297
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: you said, don't trap you can't predict the future, right,

1298
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: could there be a situation in which we Mac is yes,

1299
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: of course, you know, and I'm talking about other than injury, Like, yeah,

1300
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean right, And that's why I think he didn't

1301
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: say it, and that's why I don't think it's a

1302
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: g I'm just like, he just yeah, he just can't commit.

1303
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: I just think it's shortsighted. Like if you're gonna, let's

1304
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: say he plays three more bad games and then you're

1305
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: gonna like, do you really think Bailey's Appy's gonna come

1306
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: in and save the season. No, But do you think

1307
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: that if they play, if he played three more bad games,

1308
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: that he might think this guy isn't the guy. Maybe

1309
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: he doesn't, maybe he thinks that. But I just think

1310
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: at this point, you ain need to sink or swim

1311
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: with Mac. But b I think more importantly, you need

1312
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: to let Mac work through the struggles that he has

1313
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: because a lot of quarterbacks struggle early on in their careers,

1314
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's what will happen. And I think

1315
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: even if he does struggle, he'll work through it and

1316
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: they'll they'll try to get through it. If he's like

1317
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: shoulder the whole time, it's not gonna be a Nathan Peterman,

1318
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: he out there until it was four picks in the

1319
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: first five play. You know that's the other quarterback might

1320
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: do that. Sorry, who let's go to the phones. Pat No, no,

1321
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't mean Bailey, Zappy and then Zach

1322
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: Wilson just yeah, yeah, oh oh yeah. I don't see

1323
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: that happen. They don't. They don't let him throw the

1324
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: ball enough to throw that many picks. What's up, Patty,

1325
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm here, Freddy, Yeah, yeah, I gotta have the side

1326
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: with them. And well, most of you guys, all of

1327
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: you guys pretty much you don't know what a quarterback

1328
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: is until a few years into his into his career.

1329
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: And I mean all this talk of I've seen enough

1330
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: in Mack. I mean, have you He's played one full season,

1331
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: a rookie season. And kind of to touch on what

1332
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: Evan was saying, not everybody is a Tom Brady or

1333
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: a Pat Mahomes or even like a Justin Herbert who

1334
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: comes into comes into the league. It's their chance and

1335
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: just completely runs with it. I mean, this, what you're

1336
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: seeing right now with Mac Jones is not the exception.

1337
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: That's the rule. I mean, you're not going to really

1338
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: know what the guy is until pretty much the end

1339
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: of next season, going into his fourth year, when you're

1340
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: getting ready to decide whether you're going to pick up

1341
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: the fifth year option on him or not. I would

1342
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: I see, I'm going to push back a little bit, Patty,

1343
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: and I think he needs more time. I think he's

1344
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: lost injury time this year and whatnot that I agree with.

1345
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: I think the more the exception is the guy that

1346
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: you need to figure out four years and then you're like, oh,

1347
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: he is really good four or five years. Oh, I

1348
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: didn't think he was that good, but year four, year five,

1349
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: he really showed why everybody was so high on him.

1350
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: I think that's the exception. I think if a guy's

1351
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: really really good, you see enough early on to say

1352
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: this guy can do something. And I think Josh Allen

1353
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: might be one of those outliers where it was really

1354
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: bad for a couple of years and then turn done

1355
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: a dime. I think that's an outlier. I don't think

1356
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: there were that many guys like that. I think the

1357
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league showed you they were pretty

1358
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: good pretty quickly. How about Drew Brees, He was really

1359
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: good in San Diego before he ruined his shoulder. He

1360
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: was good in San Diego, but it took him two

1361
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: or three years to be good in San Diego. Yeah,

1362
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: I think it was a second year he was. He

1363
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl and beat the crap out of

1364
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: us as a rookie. I think, didn't he I mean,

1365
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they were in flashes. I mean

1366
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: they were flashes with Mac. I'm just saying that Drew

1367
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: Brees being when he retired the all time leader in

1368
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: passing yards. If you told somebody in San Diego back

1369
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one that that would have been

1370
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: the case, well, I think I think you mentioned Drew Brees.

1371
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: He's an exception to a lot of rules. You know, uh,

1372
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: six foot yeah, the height, everything, arm strength, you know.

1373
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, that's the thing that Josh had two,

1374
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: which is why people were willing to kind of wait

1375
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: because it's like, look at this athletic freak the right

1376
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: and it's like, you can't really compare Mac in the

1377
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: same way to say, like, wait, but look at the skills,

1378
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: look at the athleticism. Let's wait and see if that translates,

1379
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: because it's a different That's why I brought up Drew Brees,

1380
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: not because I think Mac is going to be the

1381
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: all time leading passing yards when he retires, but because

1382
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is not a toolsy quarterback, right right. You know,

1383
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: So I do think that there are guys and I

1384
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: think with Breeze until the shoulder injury and then you know,

1385
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: obviously things got murky for him. But for Drew Brees,

1386
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: it was a lot of physical development once he got

1387
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: in the league. He was one of those guys along

1388
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: with Brady, who I think is the other perfect example

1389
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: for this, along with Brady, that really worked on arm strength,

1390
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: their their physical makeup to maximize their god given DNA

1391
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: whatever they had to worry, right, And I would argue

1392
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: that Brady immediately upon entering the starting lineup showed you

1393
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: what he was capable of. That that's all I'm saying.

1394
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: I think more often than not, you see but I'm

1395
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: not saying signs of greatness. Right, But you didn't. You

1396
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: don't think you've seen in the last year and a

1397
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: half any signs that Mac Jones could be a long

1398
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: term starter in the league. You haven't seen anything that

1399
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: makes you think that a long term starter or a

1400
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: frontline starter. Those are two different things. I think he

1401
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: could be Kirk Cousins, right, I think he could be

1402
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, But I don't think he can be Patrick Mahomes. Well, no,

1403
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: Joe Joe Burrow. I think Burrow is a good example.

1404
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: I don't think he could be those unicorn You know,

1405
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: there's not too many guys, No, there are, I mean,

1406
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: but but Joe Burrow is a guy who you know,

1407
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: he's a pocket passer for the most part, but like

1408
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: you can just tell he's got it, you know, like

1409
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: what if you take he's just what if you take

1410
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: a better arm, for one, what if you take Jamar

1411
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: Chase and put him on the Patriots? I think it

1412
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: helps because because I honestly, if you're one for Joe

1413
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: Burrow was rough. I know you had the injury, but

1414
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: before the injury, year one for Joe Burrow was not perfect.

1415
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: Also with a terrible organization and a terrible, terrible team

1416
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: no offense. But right now the Patriots offensive coaching staff

1417
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: and and what's going on around Matt Owns as well. Wow, Fred,

1418
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, listen, I think what what Evan

1419
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: is basically saying is that he thinks Matt can be

1420
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. In this league, right, That's what I think.

1421
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: I've seen moments where I believe that, and until I

1422
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: see him in a solid foundation and then fail, I'm

1423
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: just not ready to give up on it. Good I

1424
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: would I would agree with that. I think he could

1425
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: be good. I don't think he could be great, that's all. Yeah.

1426
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: I think there are twenty good quarterbacks in the league.

1427
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: I think there are probably ten that's that's sucking, ten

1428
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: that are really good. There's just I think he's in

1429
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: the mid quarterbacks that maybe maybe you know, obviously the

1430
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: math doesn't work there, but work, you know, work with me.

1431
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: There's just a few quarterbacks in the league now. I

1432
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: mean I think that, you know, you can kind of

1433
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: sum it up by some of the names we've already

1434
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: thrown out, like Mahomes and Josh Allen that are truly

1435
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: transcendent of what's going on around them. I mean, look

1436
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: at Brady and Tampa right now, right, I mean, Tom

1437
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: Brady's the greatest quarterback of all time. What do you

1438
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: think the problem is with Brady and Tampa right now?

1439
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean maybe him mentally you know now you know,

1440
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: but but can we sort of say, but if Brady

1441
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: would be fine if he wasn't going through what he's

1442
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: going through, because clearly he is a guy it's potentially,

1443
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: but what I'm clearly a man in turmoil. When you

1444
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: see he also didn't want to go back to Tampa Bay.

1445
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: So no, that's but this is what I'm saying. This

1446
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: is not because he can't do it anymore because of

1447
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: those that the talent around him is eroded. This has

1448
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. It's the same receivers that

1449
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: he excelled with the team that his team is not

1450
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: as good. He's a complete disarray he him. I mean,

1451
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of that game of a guy

1452
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: who puts up the numbers despite the team being bad

1453
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: was Deshaun Watson. You know, you could tell this guy's

1454
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. He's just done a bad team. You know,

1455
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: there was just no doubt about that. Um well, I

1456
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, Yeah, they don't win enough,

1457
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: but even he, even Deshaun for most of his career

1458
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: in Houston, had the un Hopkins. The Patriots don't have

1459
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: to Hendre Hopkins walking through that door right now. And

1460
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: it's no offense to the receivers that they have because

1461
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: I think they've gotten better there. I think that they've

1462
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: made improvements. I think DeVante Parker, Kendrick Bourne, Kobe Meyers,

1463
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: Taekwon Thorton is much better than what it was in

1464
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 1: twenty twenty for Cam Newton, or even probably in nineteen

1465
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 1: and Bradies last year. But they still don't have the guy.

1466
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, they still don't have a superstar receiver that

1467
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: he's throwing too. I look, I just think that if

1468
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: you look across the league in general, a lot of

1469
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: what's going on with quarterbacks that are playing well versus

1470
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are not playing well is what their infrastructure is,

1471
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: who are their receivers, what's the offensive line play look like,

1472
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: what's the scheme looks like? He's calling the plays right?

1473
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, when guys that have all

1474
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: those things all buttoned up, like Josh Allen, now he's

1475
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: a perennial MVP candidate, and then guys that are not

1476
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: in as great situations are struggling, even guys that I

1477
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: think are good quarterbacks. I mean, I think everything you're

1478
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: saying makes sense. I just am not a believer in

1479
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: the skill set. I mean, that's that's my bottom line.

1480
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he's special in any Way, I don't

1481
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: think he does anything at a plus level, and I

1482
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: think to be great you have to be have plus skills.

1483
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: So you can give him better players and that will

1484
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: elevate him. But I don't think it's going to get

1485
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: you where you want to go. Let's go to Sean

1486
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: and Vancouver. What's up Sean. Well, I'm happy they're going

1487
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones this week. All that said, I am too. Yeah, yeah,

1488
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: for sure. Well I won't be happy though, if the

1489
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: Patriots are insane and stick with doing the thing that

1490
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Over and again, I'm completely on board with

1491
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: what Evan insane. I want to see him run an

1492
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: offense where he's got max protection, he's understanding with the

1493
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: play action, hitting the short and immediate passes give him

1494
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: something easier to do in this to at least to

1495
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 1: start the game. And then when bring the safeties downs,

1496
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: then you can go downfield when when it's it makes

1497
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: sense like you're not playing on your heels, make the

1498
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: defense play on their heels, make them react to what

1499
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, no, that what you say makes sense.

1500
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: It all starts with that line. Though. That line's got

1501
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: to play better. They've got to play better. They've got

1502
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: to get rid of the mistakes because they're just max

1503
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna look terrible. If the line looks terrible, it's just

1504
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: the way, Mr Chase. We gotta get better offensive line.

1505
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree, I'm not even talking about bringing into

1506
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: I think they have an average offense. I don't think

1507
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: that they have a special offense. I would agree. But

1508
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like a lot of the stuff we

1509
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: say right now is stuff that I used to say

1510
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: about Bledsoe. I loved bled Soo. I what Bledsoe footy pajamas?

1511
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: And I used to say, well, if they just did

1512
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: this and just did that, and they helped him with this,

1513
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: and they got him at and you know what, he

1514
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: was always good. He was never great. I just don't

1515
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 1: know how many quarterbacks in the league or that exists

1516
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: on planet Earth are transcendent of the situation, right Like,

1517
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: I just want a god that's good enough to that

1518
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: I can win it all with. And I don't think

1519
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: he is. That's all. Do you know? I think that

1520
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: he is individually like, because I guess the point I'm

1521
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: getting at is, you know, I don't know how true

1522
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: this is, but the narrative of always that you know,

1523
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick thinks that if he's got at least an

1524
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: above average quarterback, that he'll be, you know, able to

1525
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: compete for a super Bowl, right or whatever I think

1526
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: he thinks or whatever. Right, So I agree with you that,

1527
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, is Mac the type of quarterback that's going

1528
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: to put the whole thing on his shoulders and carry

1529
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots to a super Bowl? Now, and I'm not

1530
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: suggesting that you're saying that, I'm not being unfair about it.

1531
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: But here's the thing about getting to as getting to

1532
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, you need a quarterback who throughout the

1533
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 1: season at times does put the team on his shoulder

1534
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: in order to get that win that you weren't supposed

1535
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: to get to get that comeback that gets you the buye.

1536
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: You know, um, you know you need a playmaker at

1537
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: that position in order to get to the super Bowl.

1538
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 1: You know, I totally I think you just articulately better

1539
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: than I than I did. That's how I feel. And

1540
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that guy. I mean, we we've

1541
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: I've showed the Paul the stats that I had pulled

1542
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: after the game on Monday night of you know, they're

1543
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: o and nine when the opponents scores more than twenty

1544
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: five points. They have yet to win a shootout with

1545
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: Mac Jones as the quarterback, like like Brady won a

1546
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: game when allowing more than twenty five points in his

1547
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: third start, right like, and I totally unfair, Okay, I'm

1548
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: not comparing him to Brady, but just the good quarterbacks.

1549
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm just using it as an example of like, sometimes

1550
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: you see something and I'm not saying, well, he's not

1551
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: Brady Paul, No, no kidding, Yeah, he's not, and I

1552
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 1: no one else is either. But what I'm saying is

1553
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: I saw something quickly and again coming from a Drew supporter.

1554
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: I saw something very quickly now Drew had that Drew

1555
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: was excellent coming from behind, but he wasn't Brady. Yeah,

1556
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: And I think that the fact that we're gone now

1557
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: ten games or so in those situations and they haven't

1558
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 1: really come close to winning any of them, you know,

1559
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: like when they fall behind by two scores, like they've

1560
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: never really even come close to winning one of those games,

1561
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: I think that you'd see some signs of hit. Well, yeah,

1562
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: you know it's coming, it's coming. He's getting that he's

1563
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: doing this still time. And the worst thing that happened.

1564
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: You know, as bad as Monday night was for Mac Jones,

1565
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: the worst thing that happened was him getting hurt, period,

1566
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: because he would have just kept playing and then we

1567
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: could have seen a little bit more of this. Yep,

1568
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: A couple of quick phone calls and we've got to

1569
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: turn to the picks. H Williams and Philam, what's up?

1570
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: William pay for what's going on? Hey? Hey, just wanted

1571
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: to just want to pologize to y'all yesterday for my outbirth.

1572
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: I was just just frustrated with the team, that's all,

1573
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: and the coaches and stuff. That's all right, apologize passion

1574
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: never apologized as being passionate. Okay, understood. Start it's gonna

1575
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: dropping that far. I'm real back. Um, So the trade,

1576
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 1: damn mine is coming up or not? And can the

1577
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: city just made a trade? Also? So I mean, I

1578
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: know y'all want to see where Mac is that when

1579
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: I why not just give him give him the um,

1580
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: just give him the challenge and whatnot, you know, and

1581
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: just make a move. I mean did Uh there's receivers

1582
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: that's on the block and whatnot, you know. Uh, Brandon cooks,

1583
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, Um Jerry Judy, h and many others and whatnot.

1584
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: I'd be interested in Jerry Judy, but like Brandon Cooks,

1585
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: like we're interested in bringing him back at this stage,

1586
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: Like you know, we're complaining about the vertical game. I mean,

1587
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 1: that's but he's a piece for He's a piece for

1588
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: a really good team. I also think I like both

1589
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: of those clas. I like both players, but I think

1590
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 1: that they're in different stages of their career. I'm thinking

1591
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: in terms of I'm acquiring someone now that I can

1592
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: be I can have with me going forward. Jerry Judy's

1593
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: that I love the idea of Jerry Judy. I just

1594
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I do think that you know, you got two guys

1595
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: in Jakobe Myers and Kendrick Bourne that overlap a lot

1596
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 1: with how you're gonna use Judy. So basically, if you

1597
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: make it, if you give up a lot of assets

1598
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: to get Jerry Judy, I think it's a great player,

1599
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: then you're basically saying that Jacoby and Kendrick are not

1600
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah, Okay, it's real quick, Paul. You say

1601
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: they have enough receivers. Okay, we all did it, but

1602
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 1: none of those receivers are none of the names that.

1603
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: I just mean, you know what I'm saying. I mean, like, yeah,

1604
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: I just don't. I like both of those players, but

1605
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me that Brandon Cooks is gonna like

1606
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: I think we got to take Brandon Cooks out of

1607
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,799
Speaker 1: it because dramatically change the equation of what their passing

1608
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: game looks like. Is Jerry Judy, I'm not saying it,

1609
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: but he's better than all of them, and any of

1610
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: them better than the pictures receiver. Okay. I think I

1611
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: was told. I was told all summer how they have

1612
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: all these receivers and all the depth and and all

1613
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 1: sorts of calls about all of them, and I still

1614
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: think that they are good. I really do, you know, Matt,

1615
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: I think the offense, you know, hit a speed bumps.

1616
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens here now. But I you know,

1617
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: I think I think we've got we don't have, you know,

1618
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: elite receivers, but I think we've got a room full

1619
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: of good receivers. I really do the rest of the

1620
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: LEA agrees with you. I mean, they're getting calls left

1621
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 1: and right for Agalore, Kendrick Bourne, DeVante Parker, like the

1622
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: people of Jacoby, like everybody's calling the Patriots because they

1623
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: see this log jam that they haven't receiver agents are

1624
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: saying anyway, the problem those guys are going to be

1625
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: free agents and they're drumming up up interesting. The problem

1626
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 1: is more so, like we talked about with Jamar Chase,

1627
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you don't have that bona fide stud. You

1628
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: don't have that number one guy. You know, you don't

1629
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: have Gronk, you don't have Randy Moss, you don't have

1630
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Wes Welker, Like you don't have that number one guy.

1631
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't know if Jerry Judy as

1632
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 1: good of a player as I think he is. I

1633
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: don't know if he moves the needle like that, Like

1634
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: I think he's marginally better than the guys that if

1635
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: you were if you were another team and you could

1636
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: pick a Patriots receiver to trade for, let's just say

1637
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: that for argument's sake, the price was the same for

1638
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: all of them. Who would you take, Well, probably Jacoby. Yeah,

1639
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if I already have a one,

1640
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: I would take Myers. Yeah, I would take Tekwon Thornton.

1641
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: He's the only guy to be interesting. He's the only

1642
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: one we're not trading right, because he's the only guy

1643
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: that I don't know about yet. Yeah, right, and I

1644
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: would like I think that's kind of what Kansas City did.

1645
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the first round draft pick to Darius

1646
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: Tony and I'm gonna roll the dice that he can

1647
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: come to my team with Patrick Mahomes and he can

1648
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: maybe fit better like otherwise I have those guys I have.

1649
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: Green Bay might be a team that would take a

1650
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: like like an Agalore and say, oh, he could make

1651
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: a difference on my team because hey have nothing. TJ's

1652
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Hey, TJ, Um, I think it was gonna

1653
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: be dead. I am really disappointed in the band. I've

1654
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: been the band for twenty years. Millennials like the first

1655
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: to watch them. Blue the quarter in this light, in

1656
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: this bowl, and I go men to collect narciss system

1657
01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 1: who block whatever quarter back and do something don't see hog. Okay, sorry, TJ. Sorry,

1658
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I have to cut you off. The phone is not

1659
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: it's cutting in and out. We can't really figure out

1660
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: what you're saying. All right, Um, it's that time of

1661
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: the week, Matt Paul. What happened last week? I'm afraid

1662
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: to ask. Okay, so last week even nine and five.

1663
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: Look at that, Mike and Paul eight and six, Fred

1664
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: seven and seven with the spread, it's not good with

1665
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: the spread. Paul nine and five continues to do better

1666
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: with the spread than he does overall. Fred eight and six,

1667
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: it's an improvement. Evans six and eight, Mike five and nine,

1668
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: go nine and five and then six and eight against

1669
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: As we say many times in this show, with the

1670
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 1: spread is where we separate. Fred is right the wheat

1671
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: from the chief. Fred is right. I mean it's much

1672
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: more difficult. Um tells me that you probably pick a

1673
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: lot of favorites. I have to go back and check.

1674
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: But Um, I picked the good teams to win. That's

1675
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: what I do. So season standings are as follows. Evan

1676
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: is thirty eight and twenty two overall, far fewer games

1677
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 1: played than the rest of us. With the three of

1678
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: us that have picked every game, I am sixty six,

1679
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 1: forty one and one, Mike is sixty one forty six

1680
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: and one, and Fred is fifty seven fifty and one.

1681
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Alex is thirty eight and twenty four. With the spread.

1682
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know that I'm obnoxious about this, but

1683
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm sixty four, forty two and two picking every single

1684
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: game by the spreads. Good for you. That's over sixty percent,

1685
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's insane. And I'm telling you I

1686
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: have a couple of three and elevens common. I can

1687
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: feel it. I'm gonna give you a treat. Uh, Mike

1688
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: fifty one, fifty five and two, Fred forty three, sixty

1689
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: three and two and Evan twenty seven, thirty one and two. Alex,

1690
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 1: you're still thirty thirty one and one's still time. So um,

1691
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: that's the that's the numbers as they stand, all right.

1692
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: A lot of room for improvement, especially for you. That's

1693
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: what I'm talking About's all I care about. Um. Tonight

1694
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: eight fifteen on Prime Video tonight, the four and three

1695
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: Ravens are at the three and four Buccaneers. People say, oh,

1696
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 1: this is a good game. What is it? Is it? Yeah?

1697
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think any Thursday night games

1698
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: are good. But anyway, Tampa by one and a half. Tampa.

1699
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Throw myself on the ground. There too a point and

1700
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: ahead of the thing that I don't like about him,

1701
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: I'll go first. I guess yes, the Duce seat. All right,

1702
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 1: I will tell you that Duce took Baltimore both ways. Okay,

1703
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm also gonna take Baltimore. I Like we were talking

1704
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: about earlier, some something going on with bro We'll we

1705
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 1: all know it's going on with Brady, and I just

1706
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: I can't trust the Bucks right now, Alex, would you

1707
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: like to pick this week? Would you? Uh? Yeah, Okay,

1708
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. I'm I'm taking Tampa Bay both ways. Yeah,

1709
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I tend to take the home team on Thursday night. Um,

1710
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna take Baltimore. I'm gonna play

1711
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: a hunch. I just think until I see a turnaround

1712
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: with with Tampa, I have a hard time predicting it.

1713
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm going with Tommy. Uh. He

1714
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: spent a week with Tony Robbins and Oprah and Alex

1715
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: and all his friends and they got him right. And

1716
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: I think Buccaneers turn it around. He actually hang out

1717
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: with Tony Robinson Robbins. Oh, he did a whole event

1718
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: with him, right, Tony Robbins, you're motivating. Yeah, and here

1719
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 1: in Boston, remember Tony Robbins came, Oh no, but she's

1720
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: meant this week. I'm just kidding about this fun see

1721
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: I thought I thought you were being in sight. I

1722
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: thought you were being soon enough. But that's he's I

1723
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: thought he just had like this intervention coming ready. Well,

1724
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: that's that's the joke that you know, Tony Robbins and

1725
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: the actual joke. And they were all you'd be quiet,

1726
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: and they were all in the room and they helped him.

1727
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: That's the joke, so I hope. So yeah, all right,

1728
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with Tommy um for you getting up early

1729
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, nine thirty in London. It's the two and

1730
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: five Broncos at the host two and five Jaguars, Jacksonville

1731
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: by two and a half. Mister limit, I may not

1732
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 1: be able to play. Oh he's playing. He was doing

1733
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: high knees on the plane. He's playing hard. And this

1734
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: is true when I read that, like he's able to

1735
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: control his poops, so he only he only does it

1736
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: once a week. That's some illumina. That's not good. You

1737
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: need to it's actually it's actually twice week, twice Tuesdays

1738
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: and Thursday. Yeah, said, he's not pooping every day. I'm not.

1739
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: I thought it. Yeah, like you figure out like what

1740
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: to eat, like the types of food, so it all

1741
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: gets made into energy and he only has to poop

1742
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: twice a day a week. Can you just imagine get

1743
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: rid of those talks in stole. Alex may know more

1744
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: about nutrition than anyone I've ever met. Yeah, can you

1745
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: just imagine, Like, and he's doing subway commercial on an

1746
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: eight hour plane ride, and the quarterback of the team

1747
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: while everybody else's dozing, offer watching movies or whatever, is

1748
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: working out in the aisles of the plane. Right, I'd

1749
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 1: be like I was another Yeah, yeah, I'd like hard

1750
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 1: sit down. If I was a flight attendant, I'd real

1751
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: like I have I have no I'm gonna pull a

1752
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Fred and make a spie pick here, and I'm taking

1753
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I have no reason to agree with that,

1754
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: learning I just I can't do it. This is why

1755
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't really make fun of Fred that much about

1756
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: the picks, because half the time he loses on purpose,

1757
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: just just for the sake of now Mike. In the past,

1758
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Mike is with um, Mike is with Evan. He takes Jacksonville.

1759
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jacksonville. I will not bet on

1760
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: a constipated quarterback. Oh oh yeah, that too. Because it's

1761
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: it's Tuesdays and Thursday so by the time you get

1762
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: this Sunday having in London. Um, I agree with that.

1763
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: I will take I will take Jacksonville as well. I

1764
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: don't like this pick though. I just Jacksonville finds a

1765
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: way to lose this. Listen, not only am I taking Jacksonville,

1766
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: it's a lock. It's a lock. Um. I'm really good

1767
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: for me because I took jackson I just really liked

1768
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I think he's a good quarter I think

1769
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 1: he I think he played well last week. But they

1770
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, they come up like a half a yard short.

1771
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 1: I know it's just like now he has a problem

1772
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: with touch. He's got to get a little bit more touch.

1773
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: But I just I really hope he has a good career.

1774
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: What a waste if if Jacksonville doesn't get its act together. Um,

1775
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 1: one o'clock on Fox two and five, Panthers at the

1776
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: three and four Falcons Falcons by four and a half.

1777
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: Mike has Atlanta winning and Carolina covering. Huh, Carolinas, they're frisky.

1778
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: Last week's Wow, that was it. That's their super Bowl.

1779
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: They're done. Yeah. I tend to agree. I do really

1780
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 1: wonder in Atlanta if we're going to see Desmond ridder

1781
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 1: this year, though, I would I'd like to see that,

1782
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Falcons as well. I'll take the

1783
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: I'll take the Panthers though to against the spread three

1784
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: point game Alex I took Falcons both ways. Oh. I

1785
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: like how she has to do the eric and look

1786
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: up to see who she took up. Um. Yeah, I

1787
01:34:56,120 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 1: will take Atlanta both ways too. And the dead has

1788
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 1: been ritter thing I find interesting. You know what's kind

1789
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: of hurting them is even though they don't have a

1790
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: good record, but that division is so bad they could

1791
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: win the division they could have. It's not that Mariota

1792
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: is playing badly. You can just tell the way they

1793
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: call the game that they just don't trust Mariota to

1794
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: do anything right. Really, you know. Oh, like it was

1795
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 1: amazing last week they would down like twenty one points

1796
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: in Mariota had had attempted like two passes. Yeah, it's like,

1797
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Yeah? But like, if Tampa was

1798
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: having the kind of year that they should have had

1799
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: and they had a three game lead over at Lanta,

1800
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: now I think that you're desperate litter thing would be

1801
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: in play for the second half of the year. But

1802
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: if you're Arthur Smith winning the division matters. It's just

1803
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: back to back years. You take Drake London and Kyle

1804
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: Pitts and they work like and it's not like they've

1805
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: been busts. They both lived shown flashes of ability. Yeah,

1806
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 1: I'll take Atlanta both ways me too. One o'clock, the

1807
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: three and four Bears, coming off a huge win, huge win,

1808
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 1: are at the five and two Cowboys. Despite that huge win,

1809
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: the cow Boys are still favored by nine and a half.

1810
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: That's a huge spread. I do like the Cowboys in

1811
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: this game. I think you said it was the Panthers

1812
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: super Bowl last week. I think that might have been

1813
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: the Bears super Bowl on Monday night. So I'm gonna

1814
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: take the Cowboys. But that's a huge spread, So I'll

1815
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: take the Bears to cover that spread. Mike took the

1816
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: same thing Dallas with Chicago to cover. Alex has to

1817
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: look at her notes. Yeah, I'm looking at it deciding

1818
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: if I want to go back, but I don't. I'm

1819
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna take Dallas against the spread and Dallas, well, obviously

1820
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: Dallas to win, but both ways. Yeah, I'm taking Dallas

1821
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: both ways too. I think they slowly worked back back

1822
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: into the mix. Last week he was a little erratic.

1823
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: I think he'll be more comfortable this week. I'm gonna

1824
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: short week on the road for the Bears as well.

1825
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: I'll take the points. I'll take the points. Cowboys win,

1826
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 1: but they don't cover one o'clock four and three Dolphins.

1827
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: Two was back at the one and five Lions, Miami

1828
01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: by three and a half. Mike has Miami both ways.

1829
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: This is this is another tough one. I'm gonna take

1830
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: Miami too. Two is still a question mark to me outside.

1831
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: This is one of those you know, situation versus how

1832
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: good is the quarterback? Actually, they started off right and

1833
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: then they didn't score another point right well, largely because

1834
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: he got really erratic. He started getting lover. He was

1835
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: very lucky he didn't throw three or four picks. And

1836
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I just don't know how he

1837
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: picked the lines to win anything right now. So I'm

1838
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: gonna take Miami. Miami Detroit covers. Okay, I'm gonna take

1839
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: Miami both ways. Um. I think that they get a

1840
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: little of that same kind of deal to his first

1841
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 1: game back. I think he was a little erratic at times.

1842
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: I think he's better this week. He definitely got lucky.

1843
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Some of those Pittsburgh defensive backs had some place to

1844
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: make that they failed. Alex Is correct, Dolphins win, but

1845
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: they don't cover one o'clock three and four. Cardinals are

1846
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: at the five and one Vikings Vikings by three and

1847
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 1: a half. Interesting future scouting game here for the Patriots.

1848
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Both teams are on the schedule. M Mike likes Minnesota

1849
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: both ways. I'm gonna take the Cardinals flat out. I'm

1850
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 1: gonna take the Cardinals, folks. As Fred likes to say,

1851
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: that's your upset special of the week. Yeah. So last

1852
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: week they play on Thursday night, right, and DeAndre Hopkins

1853
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: comes back, but it's a short week and they don't

1854
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 1: really have an opportunity to get him acclimated. We had

1855
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: ten for one h three. I have my fantasy team.

1856
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: Those are better numbers than I thought. They were, just

1857
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: no Touchdow'm not changing my mind now. I think that

1858
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: they figure it out a little bit. I still don't

1859
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals overall, but I think I think they

1860
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 1: got to get some wins here soon. I have Minnesota

1861
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: both ways. Yeah, I am gonna take Minnesota, but I

1862
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 1: am with evan Um. I think Arizona found a little

1863
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:05,560
Speaker 1: something last week had ten days off. They get Hopkins

1864
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 1: a little bit more up to speed. I think they cover.

1865
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they win, out right, I

1866
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: think I like Evans pick. I'm not going to go

1867
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: all the way. I'll just I'll middle it. But I

1868
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,799
Speaker 1: could see an upset coming here. I think Arizona probably

1869
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: has as much, if not more, talent than Minnesota. Paul,

1870
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: you are correct, that's the right pick Minnesota with Arizona

1871
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: to cover. That's right. I also know there's some new

1872
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: maps and Call of Duty that came out recently, though,

1873
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: so that also hurts me with Kyler. Now, okay, one

1874
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 1: o'clock on the two and four Raiders are at the

1875
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 1: two and five Saints. The Raiders by one and a half. Interesting. Interesting,

1876
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: I can't take the Saints. What say Mike said, Vegas

1877
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 1: both ways? Yeah, I'm with Mike. I can't take the

1878
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: Saints right now. After watching the Dalton last week was

1879
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: just and he's playing. Oh yeah, he's started. Yeah. Nick

1880
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Underhill does a great job covering the Saints. He used

1881
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 1: to cover the Patriots. Yeah, and he he's you know,

1882
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 1: that's their guy right now. And even I think he said,

1883
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: even if everybody's healthy, they're still rolling with that. We've

1884
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: used Nick on the pregame show when we I think

1885
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: we've used some last year a matter of fact, when

1886
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: we played the Saints. Good guy. Yeah, that's a tough one.

1887
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: Alex Raiders to win, Raiders to cover. Yeah, I'm gonna

1888
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: take the Raiders both ways. I think the Raiders are

1889
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 1: one of those teams that has a bad record that

1890
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: isn't a bad team. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the

1891
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: Raiders as well. One o'clock two and five, Steelers are

1892
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: at the undefeated Eagles at six and zero, Eagles by

1893
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: ten and a half. Mike Mike takes Philadelphia and lays

1894
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: the points the Eagles are. I think the Eagles are

1895
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: the most fun team to watch in the NFL right now.

1896
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: I love watching the Eagles. They offensively, they're like everything

1897
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: that you know us New ag people that like to

1898
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: study the film want them to be right there. Rpo

1899
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 1: Field Like it's just great. It's like, Okay, this is

1900
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 1: exactly athletic quarterback, Like this is exactly what offense in

1901
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two is supposed to be designed. Like, I'm

1902
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 1: taking the Eagles. I think they even cover this guy.

1903
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh's in trouble. This spread scared me. I

1904
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 1: took Philly to win, but I gave the Steelers a bone,

1905
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: let them cover. I did too. I think that they'll

1906
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: put up a fight. I thought they played hard Sunday

1907
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: night on the road in Miami. I thought they had

1908
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity in that game. Backdoor cover. Yeah, the Battle

1909
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 1: for Pennsylvania. I think the Sharps know what they're talking about.

1910
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 1: Eagles cover. Now we skip over the Patriots at one

1911
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: o'clock and we go to four oh five. The four

1912
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: and two Titans are at the one four and one Texans.

1913
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Titans just do it every year, don't they. They look terrible,

1914
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: and then they just find a way to scratch off

1915
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: some wins and kept keep themselves relevant. Tennessee by two

1916
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: and a half. It's also bizarre because I don't even

1917
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 1: think their roster is that good anymore. No, and yeah,

1918
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 1: they look like they're on their last legs with Derrick

1919
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,839
Speaker 1: Henry too. Tennessee both ways from Mike. By the way,

1920
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Tennessee both ways too. I mean, they're

1921
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: still better than the Texans, even if I don't think

1922
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: they're as good as their record indicates. But yeah, that's

1923
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 1: it's a wacky situation down there every single year. Maybe

1924
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 1: it's just the division. I mean they play some cupcakes

1925
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: in that division. Tennessee, Tennessee. Yeah, I'll take the Titans. Um.

1926
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 1: I liked the video of Vrabel with Ben Jones. Did

1927
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: you happen to see that? Evidently Ben ben Jones was

1928
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: like a hair away from the hospital. Yeah, and he

1929
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 1: somehow made it through the game. And I don't know,

1930
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I fall for that corny kind of football stuff like

1931
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: it gets me Tennessee like I yeah, I wouldn't go

1932
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: far as far as say I shed a tear, but

1933
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 1: I like that kind of stuff like that that resonates.

1934
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: But I know, I know with these guys, I think

1935
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: that's where having a coach who actually played the game

1936
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: at that level, yeah, like football like and I was

1937
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: gonna say something stupid like I know what it. No,

1938
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what it coach, but but I just

1939
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 1: can appreciate what it takes to play a game like

1940
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 1: that and not have it physically. And Fred again articulated

1941
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: it better than I did. A guy who played knows

1942
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 1: what Ben Jones went through. And I think that was genuine.

1943
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: That was that was cool? Uh the you like the

1944
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee both ways? Yeah, me too. Teen Titans um, teen

1945
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Titans go? Is that what it goes? How it goes?

1946
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 1: Four twenty five, the three and four Commanders are at

1947
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 1: the three, three and one Colts. Nobody has to watch

1948
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: this game. I promise no one's going to be upset.

1949
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, this is a four o'clock game.

1950
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: Don't watch it. Is that what you say? Yeah? I

1951
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 1: will be watching this on red Zone for two reasons. No, No,

1952
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: that will not be one of the reasons. Not one

1953
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: of the reasons. No. First of all, it's the Patriots.

1954
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Opponent next week is the Colts. And I don't know

1955
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,879
Speaker 1: about you guys, but I like to try to be prepared.

1956
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: I like to try to work. But secondly, you got

1957
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: a new quarterback plan. I want to see what he

1958
01:43:55,960 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 1: looks like. Yeah. So Sam Ellinger, somebody described him n

1959
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: Solac I think it was he writes for The Ringer

1960
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:06,599
Speaker 1: described him as Jalen Hurts. If Jalen Hurts was bad, okay,

1961
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: right like that, that's that's sort of what we're samer

1962
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 1: For the seventeen years that he played for Texas. I

1963
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: always said to myself, this kid's a really, really good

1964
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: college quarterback, and there's no there's no shame in that.

1965
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna be remembered forever as he was a really

1966
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: good sounds like somebody who should be low budget western

1967
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: movie Colts by three. But I and Mike likes Washington outright.

1968
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know who to pick him this game.

1969
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: Washington's not starting, Carson Wentz right, all right, I'm gonna

1970
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: take the Commanders. Then I think Taylor Heineke is not

1971
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: not He's not He's like Bailey's appy, right, like he's

1972
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: just got some energy about him. No, I didn't, but

1973
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: it's similar. Someday he could be right, Like, it's just

1974
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: the energy that you get with him in there. I

1975
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: just I have more confidence than that than Sam Ellener. Yeah,

1976
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Commanders to the Colts. Pissed

1977
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 1: me off? Can we let other people pick? Oh? Oh, thanks, Alex.

1978
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: We gotta get going ways, It's really not like it is.

1979
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: It's not nine minutes for like three games no more.

1980
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 1: I will take Indianapolis to do a read and then

1981
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 1: you have Washington. I have Washington both ways. Four twenty five.

1982
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: One of those games is why I separate from three

1983
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: and four forty nine ers are at the three and

1984
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: three Rams? Uh, the forty nine ers on the road

1985
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: by one and a half. Wow. So this is the

1986
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 1: one where the forty ninety nine ers on the Rams

1987
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: on the Rams stepping the playoffs last year. Correct, It's

1988
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of like the Saints owned Tampa Bay except for

1989
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But didn't they play already this year

1990
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: and the Rams and beat them? No, soundly, no way

1991
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: the other way around. I'm taking the forty nine ers again.

1992
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: I just think the Rams are something like they have

1993
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: some players on there that might just be told the

1994
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: Rams are a bad example of what I always rail against,

1995
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter how about your offensive line. Is

1996
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: the Rams can't win because their offensive ones. Yeah, yeah,

1997
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 1: that's because you're a Stafford, you know. But that's like

1998
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: I would say the same thing about Joe Burrow a

1999
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: couple of years, like you can't win like that, like

2000
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 1: all the time taking the Niners. Mike took the Niners

2001
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: as well, Alex, I haven't watched as much Rams as

2002
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: you guys have. Apparently I took the Rams both plays. Yeah,

2003
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Rams both ways too, and I know

2004
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 1: that the Niners absolutely own this thing. There's something wrong

2005
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: with Jimmy g he did. He looks like a guy

2006
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 1: who didn't have anyways, something wrong. But he looks like

2007
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 1: a guy who didn't have any training camp because oh,

2008
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: by the way, he didn't have any training camp. He

2009
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 1: just looks off to me. I also don't for I

2010
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 1: know Debo didn't practice yesterday. I didn't know that strength.

2011
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: He's on my team, so I know Devo didn't practice yesterday.

2012
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: We'll see if he if he practices today, I'm going

2013
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: with the Rams both ways. UM four twenty five, the

2014
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: six and one Dables are at the four and three Seahawks.

2015
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: A great game Seattle by three. Who who had this

2016
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 1: one as one of the few games of the week

2017
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: involving winning teams. This was a great game. Um. I've

2018
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: been picking against the Giants like all year, and I've

2019
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,759
Speaker 1: been every time. I think I'm one and six picking Giants.

2020
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I should continue to pick

2021
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: against the Giants because eventually it will break my way,

2022
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 1: or if I should pick the Giants and come off

2023
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: of it. I'm gonna pick the Giants and uh DK

2024
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: is not playing in this game for Seattle, which I

2025
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: think is a big difference. And I think that looked

2026
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 1: they're six and one like they obviously got something going

2027
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: over on over there. Yeah, Mike like Seattle both ways. Wow,

2028
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: without day. I like Seattle both ways too. It's partly

2029
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 1: just I'm so blown away by Russell Wilson not pooping

2030
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: that I want him to just suffer like complete misery

2031
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 1: this weekend. I want for Denver now, I want old misery.

2032
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: Why don't you listen? Couldn't need you to listen. I'm

2033
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna take Seattle as well. Um, I'll just continue to

2034
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: be wrong with the giants. Yeah, I'm gonna go with

2035
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 1: the gents both ways. Um, eight twenty on Embry Sure, uh,

2036
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: three and four Packers are at the five and one Bills.

2037
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: What was thought to be a marquee game has not

2038
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 1: turned up that way. Buffalo by ten and a half.

2039
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 1: Ten and wow, how the Mighty have fallen? Wow, Bills roll. Yeah.

2040
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: I like the Bills in this game. I like the

2041
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: Bills to cover. The Bills are good. Mike doesn't go

2042
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I said it. I know you guys always get on

2043
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: my case about that. I have Buffalo to win. This

2044
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 1: is the biggest spread of the weekend. Freaked me out.

2045
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 1: So I have Green Bay covering. Oh okay, I'm gonna

2046
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: take Buffalo both ways because that's what I'll be rooting

2047
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: for when I'm watching you. Because I hate Aaron Rodgers. Well,

2048
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,640
Speaker 1: I'll be rooting for the Packers by a run. The

2049
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: red Ass McDermott's cover eight fifteen. On Monday Night, the

2050
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: four and three Bengals are at the two and five

2051
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: Browns Cincinnati by three and a half the Poop Bowl.

2052
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: These well, I don't think either one of these teams

2053
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: are particularly great, honestly, but I'm gonna take the Bengals.

2054
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati's been playing better. I think Cincinnati is

2055
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 1: this close. I think they're close this clo. Yeah, the

2056
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 1: defense is pretty good. I understand they made the Super

2057
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 1: Bowl last year. I just I don't think they're a

2058
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 1: super Bowl team. I'm not convinced about the head coach. Still,

2059
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm not either. I still think that there's just something

2060
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: about that operation that seems not like a finely tuned machine.

2061
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: But I do think they have a lot of talent.

2062
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 1: I think they're much better than the Browns as well,

2063
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: So I'm going to take the Bengals, and I think

2064
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: three and a half is kind of disrespectful. Ones. I

2065
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:33,799
Speaker 1: think this is a lock. Yeah, Mike, like Cincinnati both ways, Alex,

2066
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 1: I like Cincinnati both ways. Yeah, I will take Cincinnati.

2067
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 1: But division game, I'll take the home team getting the hook.

2068
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: So I'll take Cincinnati and Cleveland to cover lose by

2069
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: a field goal. Like every other AFC North game, they're

2070
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 1: all decided by a field goal, So both ways for me, Cincinnati.

2071
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 1: All right, Now we go back to one o'clock, just

2072
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 1: in time. The three and four Patriots are just so

2073
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, you only have five minutes, so make this

2074
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 1: pick fast. I have a read, I have to introduce

2075
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 1: John Rook. I have a lot of things to do.

2076
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: Patriots are at the five and two Jets. So this

2077
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: game Patriots by two and a half. Sorry I jumped

2078
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 1: the gun there. This game is an old school comes

2079
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: down to the trenches. Which team can protect the quarterback better?

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to watch this one because both quarterbacks statistically

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Speaker 1: are the two worst quarterbacks in the league while under pressure,

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones and Zach Wilson. So which quarterback can be

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Speaker 1: protected better? Which offensive line do you have more faith

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Speaker 1: in both of them are gonna be missing well, Jets

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01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 1: are missing several offensive line with the Patriots probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be missing David Andrews right sad. Yeah, it is already

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Speaker 1: truly a trench's battle. I have the Patriots twenty to sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and I ultimately came to that conclusion because I just

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Speaker 1: I still think that Zach Wilson's skill set, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that he's mobile enough that that's part of the

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Speaker 1: equation here. I agree, and I still think that Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is gonna scheme it up with Zach Wilson and

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Speaker 1: have Zach Wilson hand him the game. I just can't

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Speaker 1: I can't see. I can't get over that it's not

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Speaker 1: just in fields where he's gonna turn it into a

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01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 1: track meet and run around, you know, the playground, like

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01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: this is going to have to be an efficient game

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Speaker 1: for Zach Wilson. I don't see it. Mike is a homer,

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01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 1: so he took the Patriots both ways as well. Alex

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01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 1: I took the Patriots both ways. My score is kind

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01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 1: of similar to Evans two. I had twenty seven sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I also like the Patriots both ways a little bit

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01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: lower scoring sixteen thirteen. I think there'll be a lot

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01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: of field goals. I agree with Evans point. I think

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01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is very mobile, but he's not a design

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Speaker 1: run mobile kind of quarterback. He'll scramble for some yards

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Speaker 1: and maybe avoid some sacks, but I don't see him

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Speaker 1: controlling the game the way Fields was able to last

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Speaker 1: week with his legs. I don't think he's that kind

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01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,759
Speaker 1: of player. I think he's too small to just minutes

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Speaker 1: fields in Lamar, right, Like, you know, I know Week

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Speaker 1: one was Week one, but I think Week I threw

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Speaker 1: a Week one out because I just think it was

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Speaker 1: a disaster of a of a start to the year.

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Speaker 1: But Lamar and Justin Fields are the two guys that

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Speaker 1: have beaten them, uh, you know, straight up basically right,

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01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, put that situation and his only relatively productive

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Speaker 1: game with the season, Mac is full go and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots allow him to use the good plays this week,

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Speaker 1: so they they're gonna they're going to give him good

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Speaker 1: plays this week. Thirty three fourteen, Wow, Patriots win this game.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna turn it over more than Evan?

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Speaker 1: Thirty three fourteen Patriots win, get back to five hundred

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Speaker 1: and then we'll take care of the colds. All right,

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