WEBVTT - Episode 384 - Guardians Preview 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.840 I feel one on one to see a couple of them 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.280 in my taste with he and my lemonade, because I 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.000 let the way it tastes be seats at the parents. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:08.760 Can he let me run the base? Yeah? 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.000 My tame is like my money because I can't afford 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.640 to waste. Oh why see? Is alloyer take my date? 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.320 So my dates or a stick by the plate sending 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.919 case kept the case from my race at my pace. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:19.880 Clintic Brands That. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.000 Is Snake Episode three eighty four of Buco Banter, the 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:31.240 first episode recapping previewing, discussing trades after the All Star 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:36.160 break as always myself, Adam, Scott Moore, Jim Stamboys, how 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:42.519 are we doing on this smoky, smoky, smoky Thursday evening. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:43.839 I'll tell you what. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.040 People don't have excuses for not being on the live 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.400 right now, because I'll tell you what. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.080 It's not safe to be outside. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.600 I had to walk from downtown to the Strip to 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.040 my car today after work and I felt like I 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:56.960 smoked like twelve pats cigarettes. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.319 So it was it was a rough one. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.400 I'll tell you that this is your nightmare, then this 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.039 is your absolute I hate cigarettes. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.640 Yeah, Well, the good parent that I am Ben went 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.160 to baseball practice tonight, So you know. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.240 You got to respect the grind. That's all I'm gonna say. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.640 On Well, guys, the second half of the season is 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:25.120 upon us. Yeah, it's it's gonna be a grind from 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.399 here on out. Every day matters, and that's what we 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.440 asked for as Pirates fans going into the second half 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.600 of the season, is to play meaningful baseball. And that's 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.800 exactly what you're gonna get. And now the trade rumors 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.040 are starting to circulate a little bit more. You had 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.600 to trade today with the Pirates. We'll discuss that a 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.760 little bit, but people are going to want more and 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:53.200 this team deserves more in order to compete. Guys, Cleveland 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.240 right away, you get a good team. Tomorrow might be 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.640 in jeopardy because of this smoke. But how do you 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.920 feel going into the second half with the schedule set 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:04.400 as it is. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:06.280 I kind of like it. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.800 I mean, Cleveland's a team that always plays above expectations 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.040 or kind of like a Brewers of the Al similar 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.960 to the Rays, like they churn out good talent every year. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.880 But I will say I think the Pirates, when you 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.120 look at the roster just side by side, I do 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.160 think this is the Pirates are a better team and 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.880 they're gonna face some good pitchers and Gavin Williams and 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.160 Joey Cantillo, a guy that they would typically struggle with, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.600 maybe a Tanner Biby on Sunday against Paul Skiens. I 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.400 do think this is a team that is in a 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.320 similar position as the Pirates. Right, they're tied to the 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.520 top of the Central. We're not tied to the top 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.600 of our division because the AL Central is a lot 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.440 weaker than the NL Central. But I think this is 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.079 a team that's in terms of skill set, is pretty 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.920 similar and good opportunity to show out against an AL 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.640 team and boost yourself in the standings. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.280 Yeah, I think like when you look at this series, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.280 very very similar teams. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.840 I think the Guardians went into the break having won 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.120 four in a row, Pirates one three. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.000 They both probably would have preferred to have kept playing. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.800 But this is a there There aren't many. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.160 Series that I go into now thinking the Pirates can't 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.920 win or split based on the number of games. So 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.120 you know, these are two teams that we're playing well, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.480 and Cleveland is certainly benefiting from the AL and and 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.040 and the weakness there but you know, this is a 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.760 game that they've got set up with the pitching staff 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:37.600 the Pirates do. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.680 I think they're going to be in a good position. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.760 I will say this, this is a really young team. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.800 Travis Bizana, pd alp In Khalil Wattson chased a lot 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.320 or a lot of rookies, a lot of young contributors. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.440 So I think, you know, the Pirates have the advantage there. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.560 But a really good pitching staff, elite closer and Kate 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.880 Smith in a really good starting rotation. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.600 Before we get into that rotation in the second half, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.120 and some trade talk. There was a trade today. We've 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:06.760 got to spend a couple of minutes on it. The 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.080 Pirates make a move for a depth piece in Robert Hassel, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.600 the third former first round pick for the was the 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.839 Padres that picked him. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.240 And he was he was in the one Soto trade. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:27.920 Right so he's overall pick right behind right behind Nickensaal's 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.000 not a great draft class that ended up being The 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.839 Pirates actually had a decent draft class. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.280 They got Carmen Majenski, Jerror Jones, and Nicknzalez the rest 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.120 of the class. Eh, but they bring in Hassle the 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:43.000 third as a depth pieces, either cash considerations or a 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.880 player to be named later. People are going to look 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.880 into every single trade. This is pretty much a nothing, guys. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.279 This is just, hey, let's take a waiver on a 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.799 guy that was a first round draft pick, has some pedigree. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.359 Maybe he turns out to be something. He's only twenty 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.800 four years old. If not, you really lose nothing here. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.240 Yeah, I mean, I don't really have a ton of 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.479 hope in the prospect that is Robert Hassele. But I'll 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.440 take a flyer on a guy for cash considerations. I 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.000 think that's pretty much all that is. And I hope, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.360 like what I was saying today, I hope this isn't 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.919 a precursor to a trade where we get rid of 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.159 other outfield deaths because I'd much rather have it just 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.520 Sin sant Garcia and some of the other names in 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:30.160 our system than are Robert Hassele. Yeah, he's just one 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.960 of these guys that haven't panned out that you take 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.360 a flyer on. It's a body for you know, the 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.200 miners and lefty hitter. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:40.640 See what comes of it. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:45.039 Probably nothing, not a big, not a big hopefully this 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.520 is hopefully this isn't the big move. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:53.000 Guys, No, if this is the big move, then we're 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.479 in some deep, deep, deep trouble. But no, they're going 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.320 to go out and make some moves. And we were 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.520 talking a little bit before we went live in scott 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.280 you mentioned them doing something a little bit different or 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.800 or acting out of character, And I think this is 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.160 a good time to get into it because this team 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.720 needs something a little bit different. You've dealt with a 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:19.239 ton of injury. Spencer Horowitz, O'Neal Cruz KG going down 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.480 is terrible. There might need to be a little bit 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:27.880 of a change, not to the lineup really, but just 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.920 something that shakes it up a little bit more that 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.640 really puts them over the edge. And I'm curious if 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.160 you think or to hear what you think that is. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.240 I mean, you hear a ton of speculation. Could they 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.800 trade this guy? Could they trade that guy? 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:42.480 Like? What it? 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.200 What were your guys thoughts if you saw that O'Neill 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.680 Cruz was in a deal for like a Mason Miller, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.200 a big, big, probably the biggest name you could possibly 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.360 acquire in terms of bullpen help by far, what would 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.880 your initial thoughts be, Because if I'll give my I'll 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.040 give my thoughts first. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:06:59.320 Even though, I. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.839 Yeah, O'Neill's not going to probably be extended by the Pirates, right, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.520 there are some other names that you want to extend 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:12.120 probably before him. Defense has been a big problem for 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.680 this team, and he's probably at the top of the list, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.119 the top culprit in terms of defense. Obviously, you can't 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.760 teach that type of swing talent. But what if I 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.600 told you that you could acquire the best closer in 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.240 baseball and maybe not have to deal like with the 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.600 Seth Hernandez, Right, a guy that you see could maybe 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.600 fill in for his schemes once he's gone. Just some 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.120 thoughts to put out there, because I think Jake Mangham's 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.400 done a fine job. It's in center field, especially defensively, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.680 he's hitting above three hundred, and I do think there's 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.119 reinforcements on the way in terms of, you know, positional depth. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:50.840 Yeah. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:56.000 No, I mean, here's the thing about this. People lost 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.840 their minds on Twitter when people started. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:07:59.720 Mentioning O'Neill Cruz. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:01.440 I don't think. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:06.400 It's outrageous to explore anything with this team, with the 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.040 position they're in and this offense being as good as 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.120 it is, and you know, on top of it, I 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:16.240 do think that like it might take more bold this 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.520 time around with this trade deadline. If you look around 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:23.960 the league, guys, there's like six teams that are out 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:29.320 of it. Like prices are gonna be high, and guys 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.559 are gonna be valuable commodities around the league simply because 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.079 there's twenty four teams that feel that they're still in it. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.200 And so you're not just going to be able to 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.760 like nibble here and there and hope to get a 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.800 lot because the supply and demand is a factor this time. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.200 So I just think, like, you know, like broad your horizons. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.800 I'm not saying do it. I'm just saying, like, explore everything. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.560 I will say this the initial concern there with me 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.800 For me, like I do think that the pirates you 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.920 don't come. You don't have the number one offense that often, right, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.120 So like you should go for it when you have 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.960 the number one offense, and no one should be off 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.640 the table necessarily for the right deal. But they need 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.880 more than one reliever. And that's the issue with me, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.640 and that's what gives me some pause is that I 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.960 think you need to bring in more than just a 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.280 Mason Miller. Like I do think you need to bring 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.320 in another middle reliever that could be more reliable because 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.880 you're also relying on a lot of younger guys, the 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.960 guys that I think are gonna be long term contributors 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.320 this team, like a Antoine Kelly, a wilburd Hotel, a 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:40.400 Brandon Bidoir even, but you need some some more reliable guys, 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.640 more experienced guys to come in and supplement that bullpen. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.360 I'll tell you what, I like ONEO Cruz, and I 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.679 think he could be really, really good. The ceiling's obviously high, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.640 and we could talk about it for days on what 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.200 ONEO Cruz can do. This offense is finding ways to 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.199 win without ONEO Cruse. Now, would he can con tribute? Absolutely? 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.000 Could he change the game in one swing of a bat? 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.480 One hundred percent is you can create havoc on the 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:11.720 base path. Sure, this team is losing games because of 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:15.080 the bullpen. So if that's the move that you're gonna 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:16.800 make and you're confident that that's going to push you 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.440 over the top, I don't have a problem with it. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.040 I'm not going to question it. I would even applaud 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.880 them for taking a risk, right and it's not a 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.960 risk bringing in Mason Miller he's going to throw one 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.480 hundred and five miles per hour and take care of business. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.440 It's a risk more so, it's Hey, you've invested all 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.840 this and O'Neal Cruz. You've seen him go, you know, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.000 from what he was to what he is now, and 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.199 you've dealt with injuries and some slow times. But you'd 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.200 like to see it out. But again, you're finding ways 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.040 to win without O'Neill right now, and you're doing it 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.200 like your offense is really not struggling in the slightest 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.360 and Connor and Spencer. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.600 Yeah, like I think that that's the thing is Like, 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.160 clearly keeping him in an ideal world is what you'd 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.400 like to do. But if the offense can get along 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:05.680 without it, and you know, that's yet to be seen, 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.079 and that's probably the risk, right It is like can 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:13.760 they keep doing like this at this historic franchise pace? Yeah, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.200 if you believe that to be true, that they will not, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.320 you know, when they get Horowitz back soon and that 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:24.800 they're still going to keep chugging along. I do think that, 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.160 you know, Scott, you mentioned about what do you have 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:29.920 to give up to get them? In depth and all 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:34.520 that with Mason Miller. It at least allows you to 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.360 not dip into your prospects if it's cruise and then 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.199 use prospects. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.080 For another guy. You know, like you can't trade. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.040 For three relievers and trade eight prospects to do it, right, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.839 So that's like that's the to. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.800 Me, that's like the how do you strike that balance? 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.080 I also there's a lot of relievers out there that 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:57.679 are interesting to me, And I want to bring up 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.880 another trade scen arc because I know I brought Brasban 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.800 and I didn't give the proper credit. So my guy 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.679 Ian had a really good offer. Another one that he 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:10.080 brought up the other day on Twitter, Jonathan Lewiseca, who 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.240 used to be a high leverage guy for the Yankees, 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.920 is now at the Diamondbacks ground Ball Machine. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.520 Ground ball Machine. He also throws pretty hard. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.959 What if you offered a your Donnie Dela Santa, straight up, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.800 a guy that is Rule five eligible who probably you're 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.559 not gonna put on the forty man next year, right, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.640 because they've got a lot of those guys, and I 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.600 think that's where they could really get creative with getting 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.479 multiple arms. What if you traded your Donnie Dela Santo's 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.880 to Arizona and got back a guy that has high 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.720 leverage potential, like a Jonathan Lewise a bat. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.640 I think we're gonna see that. Scott, I think you're 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.640 gonna see the rule five eligible guys come into play. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.680 Because you can only protect so many. They're not going 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.720 to protect as many as they did in years past. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:13:00.360 You got to protect too. Tamar Johnson, Bonnie White, de 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:05.520 los Santo's I'm not opposed to it. And I think 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.559 just going back to the Mason Miller point, just adding 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.400 him alone makes the rest of the bullpen better, right, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.960 And I know we're kind of dreaming on a lot here. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.240 Is this likely going to happen? No, but a guy 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.680 like that allows the ninth inning to be taken care of. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.480 That's it, point blank. No one else is touching the 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.400 ninth inning. Everybody else slots down a little bit into 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.920 a little bit better of a position where guys throw 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.320 not as many high leverage innings. Okay, greg Orrisoto slots down. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.360 If you're gonna keep Dennis Santana around, he's not throwing 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.840 high leverage innings. Mason Montgomery might not be throwing as 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.160 many high leverage innings, although he's looked pretty good and 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.960 high leverage the past couple of games. I think you 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.280 have to toy around with the If you're toying around 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.920 with prospects for arms, those are the guys that you 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.320 start with and then you go from there. I've seen 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.840 a lot of trades where people are throwing multiple, multiple 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.280 prospects at relievers. That's just not gonna happen. Like, you 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.640 can't do that. And I understand the urgency, but you're 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.160 not throwing three prospects for Luke Weaver. You're just not 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:11.680 doing that. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.000 Yeah, okay, I like Luke Weaver, by the way, but 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.200 I would not throw it. And I'd be willing to 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.280 part with Edward Florentino for the right price because I 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.160 have my concerns there. Even though he's young and I'm 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.920 a big ban of Edward Larentino, I do have a 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:23.920 little bit of concern. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.520 About the swang I would be. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.520 I'd be willing to part with him in a Mason 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.800 Miller trade. Luke Weaver, I have some pause like it. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.280 There's very few guys i'd part with him in the 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.440 thing about Luke Weaver is I think he's twelve million 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.400 next year too, Like that's a factor that's a problem. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.120 Same with Antonio Sencitela in Colorado. I think he's own thirteen. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.360 Yeah, yeah, you'd hope to be able to find another 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.080 way to do all this. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:50.400 You know. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.400 The other thing about this is guys that even worse 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.600 affected this trade deadline coming up is the Reds. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.200 They're nine and one in their last ten games. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.120 I think everybody thought Chapman and I think it was Whitlock. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.680 I think everybody assumed those guys were gonna be dealt. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.160 Guess what they're not. They're a half game out of 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.640 the wild card. That even further. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.520 Shrinks the pool of like available teams and impact arms. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.120 Yep, the price of the brick is going up. That 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.440 that's what you're saying. Yeah, there's less guys and the 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.720 price is going up. Relievers are always a hot commodity 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.960 at the trade deadline. It's gonna be interesting. They have 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:39.600 to be a top player this year, by the way. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.920 Yeah, it's like like there are two games under five 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.080 hundred and a half game. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.680 Out look at their roster, I mean the injuries they 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.520 have and that it's crazy that they've won nine straight. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.280 But go ahead, Greig Breslow, so you never know what 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.160 he's gonna do. You know it's it could be up 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.160 in the air that they could still make some moves 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.480 and sell a little bit. But yeah, there needs to 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:06.080 be a couple of moves. I think two bullpen arms 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:11.040 and then maybe somebody who sits in triple A for 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.200 a little bit. Is the likely happening at the trade deadline, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.600 and maybe they make a move for another bat here 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.680 and there. But you have to be a top player. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.600 You have to show that this offense can get you 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.280 a long ways and all. The only thing holding you 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.560 back right now is not the O'Neill Cruz injury, not 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:34.920 the Spencer Horwitz injury, but the bullpen. Yep, that's it. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.840 The starting rotation. Paul Skeens has gotten better. He wasn't bad. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.560 He's gotten better though. Brax and Ashcraft All Star Bubba 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:43.360 Chandler starting to. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:46.880 Look better. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.640 Your only concerned there is Mitch Keller. So maybe they 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.680 make a move or another starter, maybe a lefty starter 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.800 that historically does well at PNC Park. But this is 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.080 the time to do it. I know we've said that 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.920 in years past, and then you get the the bdlcs 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.200 and the ikf so of the world. I don't want 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.560 any more initial guys no more guys were referring by initials, 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.760 bring me in somebody that it is a name that's 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.280 going to contribute, that's not a like a middle of 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.960 the road piece, that's actually going to make a difference immediately. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.480 And I think they know that it's just going to 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.439 be a matter of whether or not they're willing to 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.119 part with the packages that are necessary in order to 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:29.880 bring in those names. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.359 Guys all seriousness, Like I love the Mets as a 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:38.000 trade partner. Huascar Brasabon and Luke Weaver obviously names that 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.879 you should watch, even though Luke Weaver's money is higher. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.320 But I think you look at the NL West because 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.600 I think the NL West is everyone below the Dodgers. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.040 Are going to be like all right on to next year, 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.600 and if the Padres don't do it, they should. They should. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.119 But the Padres are interesting to me because they've got 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.440 Mason Miller at the top, but they got Adrian Moorehane 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.800 as a power lefty, and they got Jason Adam is 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.000 going to be coming back from injury, and Jason Adam 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.320 has been very effective as a reliever, just overperforming every 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.639 single year. This is a guy who's a vet. And 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.159 then you look at the Giants. The giants have some 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.080 interesting names. Ever heard of JT. Brubaker. 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.960 Hey, I thought I thought we weren't doing initials. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:26.080 Yeah, Robbie Ray, alliteration thrown at you real quick. Robbie 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.679 Ray a lefty starter. If you're if you're willing to 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.080 maybe move a Mitch Keller like I, like I said 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.520 with O'Neill Cruz, like I I have a feeling they're 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.040 going to be creative, Like they're going to move a 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.200 big league piece too. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.480 By the way, Jason Adam forty four glove guy has 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:41.720 a really nice. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.600 One and he's he's kind of. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.720 A dog, kind of a dog, really sick glove too. 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.920 Yeah, I mean these are all huge factors, right, you 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:50.320 know what I mean. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.480 You can't have a guy come in here with a 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.480 lame glove. Everybody who has the same gloves nowadays you 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.280 get a forty four custom glove. It's pretty cool. 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.440 I'll tell you who can't be lame at this trade 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.840 deadline is Ben Sherrington. Like I think a lot of 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.439 people have given him a lot of credit for what 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.000 he's done offensively and out of these guys, but let's 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.119 be honest. Ben Sherrington's tenure right now is going to 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.600 be judged on what he does from July sixteenth today 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.560 through August third, the trade deadline. Like, Okay, you got 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.719 this far, and it's taken you a long time to 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.440 do it, Like you have about two to three weeks 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.160 two and a half weeks for me to give you 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.359 any full credit, Like getting this far isn't really enough 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.119 for me to give you many flowers. 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.520 Here's the problem. You say two to three weeks, which 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.560 you're right getting up until August third, But what happens 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.000 when things don't go your way in New York or 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.080 you come back home birth the Cubs and don't have 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.439 a good series, and then all of a sudden people 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.520 are panicking in the other direction. That's why we've been 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.679 advocating to make moves sooner rather than later. So at 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.679 least you're giving yourself opportunity going down the stretch to 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.159 win those games that maybe you wouldn't win with the 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:07.560 bullpen that you have right now. 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.760 But again, price goes up when you do that because 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.840 you're asking teams to to You have to make it 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:19.040 attractive enough out the gate, so to speak, to where 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.320 teams will say we're not. 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.520 We don't have to move it right now. We might 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:24.520 wait a couple of monks. 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.920 Can you can you find enough attractive packages to get 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:30.960 a team to do it closer to now? 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:35.440 Attractive packages? That's the name of this episode. 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.040 I'll tell you what, guys, I mean, I think gmbc's 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:40.720 job is on the line. I mean, I think this 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:42.960 is a very important deadline. We've talked about it in 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:44.040 years past, Like. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:46.120