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SMP five 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: under down twenty three points one point one percent to 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: two thousand fifty three. The nastac is down fifty five 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: points one point one percent to forty seven fifty West 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Texas Intermedia Crude oil down fifty three cents of barrel 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: one point one percent of spot gold is up twenty 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: seven dollars an ounce at twelve ten year treasury down 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: to thirty seconds with the yield of one point eight 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: three percent. And that's a Bloomberg business flash. You're listening 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: to taking Stoff with Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox on 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Today. The president of the Federal Bank of Dallas, 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: Robert Kaplan, said he supports the FED moving at a 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: gradual place. Depending on the economy, that pace could be 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: faster or slower towards more interest rate increases. Well, the 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: currency market is betting that after the government reported a 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: first quarter GDP growth rate of just zero point five percent, 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: that interest rates are a long way off, and that's 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that the Fed continues a three 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: month drop. Joining us now to sort this all out 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: for the currency market. Kitch you Global Strategistics Society General 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: in London, Kit, welcome back. Hi. Well, you know, the 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Fed keeps saying one thing, although I think in fairness 39 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: to Rob Kaplan. He didn't say that there was going 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: to raise raids in June or you know, any time, 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: except that they will at some point. But the dollar 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: seems to me is it responding as much to the 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: just the weakness in the economy and the power of 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: that message. Um, I think it's reacting partly to a 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: sluggage economy for sure, but possibly even mortally the FEDS 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: emphasis at the moment on giving the economy a chance. 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm turning around and saying that even as market measures 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: of inflation expectations have been edging a little bit higher, 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: as wage growth has even picked up a little bit, 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: and you know recently, um, that they're really not bothered. 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: I think that was one of them, you know. So 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: there were two messages from the Fed in the middle 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: of the week. One is, yeah, you know, we're not ready. 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: The economy is just trundling along. And the second was 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: we think we think in patient rely measures pressures a 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: very absent and that means we're not in a hurry. 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: So you have you have a market that's pricing forward 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: expectations of inflation higher, a central bank that doesn't care, 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: and a dollar that's going down. Kit chukes. Can you 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: tell us who are the people who are the big 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: players in the foreign exchange market. The foreign exchange market 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: doesn't move by itself. It's got people behind it. Who 63 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: are they? I think that there's been a there's been 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: a mad rush of all sorts of people to benefit 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: from the strong dollar in the last I guess the 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: last eighteen months or so, so European investors who have 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: been buying US as that European investors who have been 68 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: going short of the short of the of the urosay 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: and long of the dollar when the European Central Band 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: moves negative reds. There have been certainly an enormous number 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: of the kind of leverage trading community, the edge one community, 72 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: who have had a long dollar that as part of 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: the gloomy assessment of the global economy and a trade 74 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: on a trade on monetary policy diversions. You've had a 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of hedging from the corporate sector, for whom a 76 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: strong dollar is certainly a concern. If you're an American 77 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: corporate selling products overseas, you have been hedging pretty much 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: having you can in the currency in case the dollar rises. 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: So it's it's companies, it's hedge funds, it's traders and 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: it's people managing pension funds all over the world, but 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: too many of them with one trade the same way 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: around for sure. When we look back at the last 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: few months, So kit uh, the bigger Japan did not 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 1: cut its negative rates even more negative the bigger Japan. 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Mr Krona wants to give the recent moves a chance 86 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: to work. How has that played out in the currency market? 87 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: What does it mean moving ahead? Because one of surprises, 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: of course, has been the strength in the end. Even 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: with Japan, we've been to a negative rate policy. Yeah, 90 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they botched their move to negative 91 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: rates at the end of January. The the negative rate 92 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: policies intended to encourage people to invest overseas. Japanese investors 93 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: were invested overseas over enthusiastic be already and in January 94 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: when markets were melting down, they couldn't do much more 95 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and that that started this off. Um, you know, either 96 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: they've made a policy mistake and they just need to 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: wait for the for the dust to settle, or they've 98 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: they've made a policy to negative rates and they want 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: to wait and see how it does, how it works, 100 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: and their more adult calm and grown up and fools 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: like me and my like in the market. That's that's 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: possible too. But either way they may well get dolly 103 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: yen a lot closer to a hundred pliant of time 104 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: they're done. Um, the yen is strengthening. There's a resistance 105 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: at the moment of reluctance to intervene in the foreign 106 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: exchange markets. Um. That that's that's not something that people 107 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: are keen to do at the moment, sort of fuel 108 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the talk of currency wars. Um. And I think they're 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: just they're just sitting it out for a bit. But 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: that the danger is, you know that buying the yen 111 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: is the new big thing, just as I don't know, 112 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: buying all sorts of other things has been in time. 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: So we're going to overshoot. I don't know how to 114 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: cope with an overshoot to you know, to a hundred 115 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: dollar yen, which is another seven per cent or so 116 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: from here. You know, do I buy the yen or 117 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: do I wait to tell the end there? Or do 118 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: I just go and have a long weekend, which I'm 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: getting here now. And maybe maybe it's got a t 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: or is something more that starts with than m possibly 121 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: kit speak if you can about the investors that may 122 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: be trapped in a long dollar trade now unwinding to 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: go to a long Japanese yen trade. Will they get 124 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: trapped there too? Um? Some of them, I think. I 125 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: think the rush into the yen at the moment has 126 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: been um. Short term traders. I think you've got some. 127 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: I think if you've had a balance of people in 128 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: the world, you have some long term investors who are 129 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: still shortly en um, and you have some short term 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: investors who are along the n and the short term 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: investors are moving us right now. I think some of 132 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: them may be fact. I mean, you know, not a 133 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: lot of people have been gods of trading in this 134 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: market in the last three months. It's been a very 135 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: difficult start of the year with with with trends breaking 136 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: up and moving quite violent the other way. So I 137 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: would expect several people, you know, plenty of people, more 138 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: people than I can count, will well, we'll find that 139 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: they can't manage the full in doll again and then 140 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: the subsequent bands and um, and you know, I don't 141 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: think we could. We could easily trade down near a 142 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: hundred and up near a hundred and twenty old before. 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're like the fourth of this right. 144 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Thank you very much at Kit Juke's Global strategy Associate General. 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: The end right now trading at one oh six to 146 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: the dollar, Eurospot one fifty, and the British pound at 147 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: one forty six. Japanese yends gained eleven percent against the 148 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: US dollars since the beginning of the year. You're listening 149 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: to taking stock on Bloomberg Radio China's economy. What do 150 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: you really need to know and how much can we 151 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: trust the economic statistics out of China. Coming up on 152 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio, we're going to tackle that question and more.