WEBVTT - Best NFL Week 10 Bets + Favorite Props (Ep. 25)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there everyone. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by bet MGM. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Harris. You can find me on Twitter at Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Harris eighty. It is time to break down some of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite and our least favorite bets for the week

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<v Speaker 1>ten NFL slate and with me to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>all is Adam Burke, a sports betting writer at bangbook

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and host of Bang the Book Radio. You

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<v Speaker 1>can follow him on Twitter at Skating Tripods. Adam, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming back on how's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's going well man. How you doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you might have been our first two time guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were definitely our first three time guests, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>This is third times a charm, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a big reputation here, so you can't let

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<v Speaker 1>us down. This is a big one here. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough week. We were just talking about it before we

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<v Speaker 1>started recording. You've got six teams on a buy. There

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<v Speaker 1>aren't that many games to choose from, so we really

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<v Speaker 1>need to figure out a way to bring it right here.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know the drill? Alrighty. For the Thursday episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam and I are going to be make some of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite bets against the spread or on the over under.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll list a game to avoid, and then we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite prop bet. But we are nothing if not

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<v Speaker 1>accountable here at the Betting Bros Unfel podcast, so let

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<v Speaker 1>us very quickly review last week. I hit on the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets and the Dolphins over forty one and the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>Bears under forty two, but thanks to Adam Vinitari, I

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<v Speaker 1>missed on the Colts laying one to the Steelers. I

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<v Speaker 1>also whiffed on what I admitted was a very big

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<v Speaker 1>reach on a prop bet after I'd hit like five straight,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Robbie Anderson over one hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards at plus four to twenty five against the Dolphins. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel all that bad about last week. And

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<v Speaker 1>while I did bet the Colts because I placed my

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<v Speaker 1>bets at some point shortly before or after recording, the

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<v Speaker 1>t Y Hilton injury changed things just a bit after that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I admit I hedged a little bit prior to Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>As for our guests Rick Ryan, he whiffed on both

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins getting ten from the Bills, and the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>getting five from the Eagles as well as Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>under fifty nine and a half rushing yards, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did hit on the Raiders, laying two to the Lions. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>listeners should also know that I have never heard anyone

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<v Speaker 1>quite as upset about missing three of his four picks

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<v Speaker 1>as Rich was. Seriously, he's probably listening, and Rich you

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<v Speaker 1>need to get a hold of yourself anyway, Adam, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been our guests a couple of times, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know you are ready to roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump into it with Pick six, where we each

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<v Speaker 1>give three of our favorite bets, either against the spread

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<v Speaker 1>or on the over under. Start us off with one

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<v Speaker 1>of your favorite bets of the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm just gonna run through these through my

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<v Speaker 2>three here by rotation number, and I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>man game two fifty nine to two sixty Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans. I understand why this line is where it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've got a Saints team playing as good as

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<v Speaker 2>anybody in the NFL. The defense has been fantastic. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they've got Drew Brees back, but painted thirteen across across

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<v Speaker 2>most of the market there on that bettingpros dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>Odd screen. I've got to look at Atlanta in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a New Orleans team coming off to buy that.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, the way that they were playing, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they wanted to buy. The defense had been great,

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<v Speaker 2>you just got Breeze back, and then all this you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna stop for a week. And furthermore, everything went perfectly

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<v Speaker 2>according to plan for New Orleans during that bye week.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay lost, Minnesota lost, San Francisco looked human against Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>So now New Orleans in the driver's seat, not just

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<v Speaker 2>for the number two seed, but possibly the number one

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<v Speaker 2>seed in the NFC. I think this is a bad

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<v Speaker 2>spot for them. I think they got fat and happy

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<v Speaker 2>over the break. Atlanta chance to reset, refocus, maybe wipe

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<v Speaker 2>the slate clean a little bit. For whatever reason, the

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<v Speaker 2>Falcons didn't fire Dan Quinn and everybody kind of thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was going to happen. Arthur Blank didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, the GM didn't want to do it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they feel like he's still got this locker room here.

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<v Speaker 2>They should get Matt Ryan back here this week, and

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<v Speaker 2>he should be healthier than he was a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago when Matt Shab had to play. Atlanta is

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<v Speaker 2>the only side for me in that game, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna wind up taking it, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 2>super contest as well as personally.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I'm shocked by this one. I'll be honest. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have a prompart. The line is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big line. Anytime you see double digits. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to kind of always take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>the underdog just because there's so many ways for them

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<v Speaker 1>to cover. I mean, it's just a million ways. When

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the breakdown here of what we've got

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<v Speaker 1>the it's fifty to fifty actually among the fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>experts who have put in picks, but the most accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>the top twenty percent on the season are with you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're sixty to thirty eight in favor of Atlanta. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at it, yeah, I can totally see it.

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<v Speaker 1>But god, you are a brave man betting on Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of how I feel about it. If I

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<v Speaker 1>have to pick a side, I'll go with Atlanta. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that, but you know, to make it one again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's slim Pickens this week to be fair. It's just suck.

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<v Speaker 1>They have just shown absolutely nothing. My worry about it, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>is not so much the offense. I agree, Ryan's going

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. You know, I think they can move

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<v Speaker 1>the ball even against a tough defense, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>DeVonta Freeman. The strength of the Saints defense is their

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<v Speaker 1>run defense, not as much their past defense, although overall

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<v Speaker 1>it's very strong. Freeman hasn't been doing anything on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground whatsoever. He's held to like thirty yards or less

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of his games. But on the passing

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<v Speaker 1>side with Ryan back, which I agree, he's coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Ridley's getting involved once the new is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Hooper is having a fantastic season. You always have Julio Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>and Freeman's been great. My big worry, though, is their defense. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>how are they ever gonna stop New Orleans offense? That's

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<v Speaker 1>my only concern in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I completely agree. I think it's a fair concern,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, maybe you're maybe one of the

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<v Speaker 2>totals you like here could potentially be the over in

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<v Speaker 2>this game. But again, I mean, I think you just

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<v Speaker 2>have a Saints team that you upset the rhythm of

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<v Speaker 2>a team. When all of a sudden you run into

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<v Speaker 2>a bye week, you want to keep playing week after

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<v Speaker 2>week after week, especially because in that Seahawks game they

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<v Speaker 2>win by six on the road, although it really wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as close. The Cowboys they win by two, Buccaneers by seven,

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars by seven. Then they get a couple of lopsided

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<v Speaker 2>wins and you start to feel like maybe this team

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<v Speaker 2>just is dominant. But then they get that week off

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of slows everything down a little bit. First

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<v Speaker 2>of four straight division games in three and a half weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>because they'll play Atlanta on Thanksgiving night on that short

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday there the last week of November. Then they get

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<v Speaker 2>the forty nine ers and the Colts. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that the Saints just kind of have their eyes

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<v Speaker 2>on a bigger prize a little bit further down the

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<v Speaker 2>line here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really don't have a problem with it, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>most of those games did come without Drew Brees. But

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. You know, they were rolling, they

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<v Speaker 1>are playing well. You know, they're certainly either them or

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine ers seems like the team to beat

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC. So, I mean, I think we both

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<v Speaker 1>agree they're gonna win, and probably win pretty handily here.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, the big thing that I see on it

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<v Speaker 1>is like I totally see the back door cover, the

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<v Speaker 1>back door cover coming at the very end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of Atlantic coming, you know, the Saints kind

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<v Speaker 1>of backing off. Thirteen is just such a high number,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's too high as to what it should be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it should be closer to ten

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<v Speaker 1>or eleven. But realistically it's hard for me to take

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<v Speaker 1>the falcon. So I do appreciate your boldness, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I am forced to choose a side, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the side that I would take as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The one caveat that I would have here is if

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta comes out of the by and just gets completely

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<v Speaker 2>blown away, and it's certainly a possibility. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>line suggests it's a possibility. The body of work for

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<v Speaker 2>both teams, as you just mentioned, if Atlanta gets trucked

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<v Speaker 2>in this game, I cannot touch them the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, because if they don't show up here, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they show up anymore here in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think really that's the difference with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I reached that point like two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I you know, I think I backed

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<v Speaker 1>them maybe in the Super Contest too against Arizona. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that they might have been giving three and that

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<v Speaker 1>was when I still was like, you know, Arizona just

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<v Speaker 1>gives games away. And again they may have covered head

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Brian kicked you know, the extra point at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game. But I don't know, man, something

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<v Speaker 1>with them. I can't believe Quinn still has a job.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've talked about that. That's that's really ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I agree, certainly if they if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>show up here, there's absolutely no reason to touch them

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the season. For me, I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to start with an over under, and usually with

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<v Speaker 1>these I like to go under. I feel like those

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<v Speaker 1>are usually this sharper side. But here I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>over and I'm gonna take the Cardinals and the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty two and a half. Now, this line has

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<v Speaker 1>been trending up all week. It is the highest over

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<v Speaker 1>or under of the week, but sometimes just got to

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<v Speaker 1>steer into the skid a little bit. Now, the analysis

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<v Speaker 1>here is pretty simple, right, both teams have solid two

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<v Speaker 1>above average offenses. The Bucks have not been held to

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<v Speaker 1>fewer than twenty three points since Week two, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>played some tough defenses in that span, with the Titans,

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers, the Saints, and the Rams. They've got a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of weapons on offense. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin

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<v Speaker 1>are studs. They're finally getting Ronald Jones involved. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I host a fantasy football podcast. I've teased my very

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Mike Tagler mercilessly about how high he has

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<v Speaker 1>kept oj Howard in his fantasy ranks for rest of season.

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<v Speaker 1>But assuming that Howard plays here and he is trending

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<v Speaker 1>in that direction, I think he's going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>big game. The Cardinals defense has been weak all year

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<v Speaker 1>against tight ends. Patrick Peterson has not made much of

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. Meanwhile, the Cardinals are the fastest team in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL offensively under Cliff Kingsbury's offense. The Bucks can

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run, but they cannot stop the pass. Murray

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna throw, He's going to run. And I've run

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<v Speaker 1>through this game a million different times. I just cannot

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<v Speaker 1>see a scenario, absent in injury to one of the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's not a shootout. Plus you I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can pretty much bank on the fact that Winston is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a massive turnover at some point, a

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<v Speaker 1>pick six or a fumble deep in his own territory

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna lead to points. I don't like the spread here.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really trust either team these I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>to back either one of these teams. But on the over,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's fifty two and a half and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a high number, I just it's hard for me to

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<v Speaker 1>see any way that this game is in a massive

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<v Speaker 1>shootout with a really really high point total.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that makes sense. I mean, again, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got two relatively suspect defenses here. I mean, Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 2>is maybe a little bit better than we thought that

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<v Speaker 2>they would be. But you're the Winston thing. My god,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. He makes so many just tremendous arm talent

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<v Speaker 2>throws and so many awful decisions, not just in the

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<v Speaker 2>span of a season or in a game, but like

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<v Speaker 2>on a drive, Like he'll make a throw that you

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<v Speaker 2>just you're blown away by. Then the next one it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, what are you doing, dude? It's I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I've ever seen a player that, in consistent from

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<v Speaker 2>one play to the next at the quarterback position, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like a Jeff George type of dude or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's unbelievable. But I, like you said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's hard to see either team providing a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of resistance here Tampa Bay and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the few places in November where the weather won't be

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<v Speaker 2>too bad at least usually not. So, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. It makes sense. It is interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>the line coming down a little bit from the opening total,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to step in front of these

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<v Speaker 2>two offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh see, that's interesting because I thought the line had

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<v Speaker 1>actually moved up a point from where I had it

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<v Speaker 1>at the look of the headline has had it moved

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<v Speaker 1>down from the look aadline.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like I'm seeing it pinnacle. It opened fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four early in the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Okay, So when I did the look aheadline, I

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<v Speaker 1>had it at fifty one and a half, So it

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<v Speaker 1>might have dropped significantly early on. There might have been

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<v Speaker 1>some sharp money really pushing it down because I had

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<v Speaker 1>it coming up as the week went on. But that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it opened at fifty four, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be a little something where I would get a little

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<v Speaker 1>nervous about taking them. I mean, I probably still would

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<v Speaker 1>because I really feel like this game is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>Montra again. The big thing here is a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One, both teams are capable of massively explosive plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Mike Evans with the air yards that he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting all season long, it's just every play is just

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<v Speaker 1>a bomb to him. Both teams can score really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not sort of a slow, grinded out game. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cardinals don't, you know, run the ball a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>amount anyway, and they're not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>run it on the Bucks, but they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to throw it. And again, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks are really going to be able to move it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the end, it's a high total, the highest

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. But you know, for me, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>relatively confident that I'm not going to be sweating this

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<v Speaker 1>one out in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just one of those types of situations

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, you see some high totals in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>but you generally don't see totals up in that fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three to fifty four range. And when you get outliers

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Sharp money usually just plays against it, just

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<v Speaker 2>solely on principle, So I don't think i'd worry too

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<v Speaker 2>much about the line. Move here, and I will say this,

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<v Speaker 2>get in on this one, you know, relatively quickly, because

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<v Speaker 2>public money will drive this back up as we get

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<v Speaker 2>closer to kickoff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just looking a little bit at the breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I mean, you're you're about right. More bets

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<v Speaker 1>are coming in on Atlanta, but more money is coming

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<v Speaker 1>in on the same so it's not a crazy amount.

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<v Speaker 1>The split of it. It's you know, relatively in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in line as a general matter, but it certainly is

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<v Speaker 1>something where when the number of bets is out numbered

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<v Speaker 1>by the money that's coming in, you can tell there's

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<v Speaker 1>been some sharp action, at least initially that was pushing

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<v Speaker 1>it down. Let's move on to your second pick. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you got?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna take a look here. Two sixty five

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<v Speaker 2>by rotation order the Detroit Lions or plus two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half against the Chicago Bears. And look, early in

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<v Speaker 2>the week it was three. It certainly would have been

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<v Speaker 2>better to get three. But as far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the body of work for these two teams,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know Detroit is a square side here this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I know some sharp money has kind of shown a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of interest in taking Chicago, maybe in a

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<v Speaker 2>by low type of situation, but I don't see how

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago can lay points against any average to above average

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<v Speaker 2>team right now. Matt Nagy just has no clue on offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Trubisky's a disaster. I don't know why they don't just

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<v Speaker 2>go with Chase Daniel decide that they're going to draft

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback. Detroit's looked pretty good, and you know you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that on last week's show. Your previous guest had

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<v Speaker 2>Oakland minus two, and I had them in the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Contest as well, but we got damn lucky getting that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit had a turnover just outside the red zone, a

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<v Speaker 2>pick in the end zone, they had that goal line

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<v Speaker 2>stand at the end of the game. They basically gave

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen points away to Oakland, you know, with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the turnovers and with their field position there. So Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>another game that they should have won, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>hold that against them. You could say there's been games

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<v Speaker 2>this season that they should have come away with a

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<v Speaker 2>victory in but Division game here, Stafford's playing great, Detroit's

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<v Speaker 2>defense has been playing pretty well. It seems like Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Patricia's defensive influence is really starting to weigh in here

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<v Speaker 2>this season. This isn't necessarily as much of a play

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<v Speaker 2>on Detroit as it is a fate of Chicago, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears just don't deserve to be laying points against

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<v Speaker 2>any team playing as well as Detroit has this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could not agree with this more actually, And

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, you know, we take a look at the

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<v Speaker 1>lines where they are at that point, guessing where they

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<v Speaker 1>might move or not, And Dave Cochan was our guest.

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<v Speaker 1>We both talked about this line as being I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it whatsoever. I completely agree there is just no

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<v Speaker 1>way you can trust the Bears doing anything at this

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<v Speaker 1>point offensively. I mean, I get that Matt Maggie is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to rely on David Montgomery more right to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball because frankly, you've got to take the ball

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<v Speaker 1>away from Mitchell Drubisky because he cannot do anything. He's

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<v Speaker 1>completely regressed offensively. And again, the only hesitation is the

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<v Speaker 1>exact point that you made, which is the Lions kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have this knack of giving away these games that

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like they should win. Right against the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>they did it early on in the first game, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>the season against the Cardinals where they wound up tying

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<v Speaker 1>even though they were way ahead. So they do have

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<v Speaker 1>the knack for doing that. But I completely agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It is less about the Lions and much more about

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears, and you got to fade them, particularly on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really really like this second pick actually, and

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<v Speaker 1>it actually feeds into my second pick, which is on

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<v Speaker 1>the same game, and it's the under on forty two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half on the over under. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been taking the Bears under pretty much the entire year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been a pretty solid place to live for

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<v Speaker 1>really much of the reason that you describe. They've played

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<v Speaker 1>eight games, they've been below thirty seven points in five

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and they've been above forty six points just once.

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<v Speaker 1>Their defense isn't quite as vauntid as it once was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still an above average unit overall. Really, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's their offense. Mitchell Trubisky is terrible. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>signs of life from the passing offense. He was almost

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<v Speaker 1>benched at halftime last week now. He did come out

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<v Speaker 1>and did have a much better second half, but I

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<v Speaker 1>believe they had nine yards at the half or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. They went three and out in their first

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<v Speaker 1>five drives, so they're really just not doing it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, the ground game is fine, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite as you know, explosive as you really are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need it to be if you're gonna have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback like Mitchell Trubisky. Meanwhile, on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball, Detroit can certainly move the ball fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not a matchup that sets up particularly well

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<v Speaker 1>for the type of offensive, you know, game plan that

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<v Speaker 1>they have. The Bears have been vulnerable on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>since the Keeam Hicks went out. But the Lions just

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<v Speaker 1>really have no running game. They haven't really all season.

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<v Speaker 1>They certainly haven't since carry On Johnson went out, Ty Johnson, JD. McKissick.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just not gonna get the carries or have that

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<v Speaker 1>same success. The Lions their strength and their passing offense,

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<v Speaker 1>their receivers, Kenny Galladay is great, Marvin Jones is still

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<v Speaker 1>doing well. Danny A. Mondola pops up these good games

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<v Speaker 1>about half the time. But the Bears are pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>against the posing wide receivers. They've allowed just three touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>to them all year. They allow less than eleven yards

0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.160
<v Speaker 1>per reception to wide receivers. Both of those are third

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<v Speaker 1>best in the league. So this has the feel to

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<v Speaker 1>me of a slower game where the Lions, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of rely on their tight ends like Hawkinson and James,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kind of methodically move the ball up and

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<v Speaker 1>down the field. So again, don't forget we're in November.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Chicago, it's going to be cold. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sets up well for the under. So I agree, I

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<v Speaker 1>like Detroit, but I also like the under at forty

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you look at the Bears here this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the game in which they scored more than

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<v Speaker 2>thirty points, they were plus four and turnover they got

0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.520
<v Speaker 2>five takeaways against Washington won that game thirty one to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Their other season high twenty five points against the Saints.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, this is a Bears team. They've exceeded

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred yards once on the season. We thought they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be able to run the football. They have two games

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<v Speaker 2>that have amounted for a good portion of their running yards,

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<v Speaker 2>one fifty three against Denver in Week two, one sixty

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<v Speaker 2>two against the Chargers in Week eight. They're not even

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<v Speaker 2>running the football, and we all know that Mitch Trubisky

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<v Speaker 2>is not a guy that you want to rely on.

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<v Speaker 2>The one really bad thing about this Detroit defense their

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<v Speaker 2>thirtieth and third down conversion rate against at forty eight

0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.119
<v Speaker 2>point one percent. But the Bears are twenty eighth and

0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.960
<v Speaker 2>third down conversion rate at thirty one point four. So

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<v Speaker 2>this looks like a game, you know, with some field position,

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<v Speaker 2>with some decisions to punt the football. Both these coaches

0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.800
<v Speaker 2>have kind of made some real conservative decisions on fourth

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<v Speaker 2>down and stuff like that throughout the year, So I

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<v Speaker 2>got one. Definitely makes some sense. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think a low scoring game bothers Detroit all that

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<v Speaker 2>much either, just because Stafford's been so efficient taking care

0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.000
<v Speaker 2>of the ball. So who knows, Maybe you and I

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<v Speaker 2>both have winners in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think we do. Honestly. I think Patricia really

0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.520
<v Speaker 1>at heart does not want to be this offense that

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.440
<v Speaker 1>throws the ball way downfield and goes up and down

0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. He wants to rely on his defense,

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.639
<v Speaker 1>He wants to sort of control the ball you. You know,

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.680
<v Speaker 1>he showed that last year. He hasn't really been able

0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to do it this yere, because that's not the Lion's strength.

0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But the Bears, to me, they just strike me as

0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a team that's, you know, on the verge of basically

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<v Speaker 1>mentally checking out at this point, because it's just got

0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to be So. I'm a Jets fan, right, so I

0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.520
<v Speaker 1>recognize exactly how it looks when a team is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, throwing their hands up in the

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<v Speaker 1>air and saying, I don't really know how much more

0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.920
<v Speaker 1>effort we can do. That kind of seems like where

0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bears are heading because Trubisky just gives them almost

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<v Speaker 1>no chance to win at this point. So I see

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.480
<v Speaker 1>them kind of relying on their defense, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>But again, there's no way they should be laying points

0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.439
<v Speaker 1>at this point to anyone, pretty much. I mean, obviously,

0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got the Dolphins fine, but not a

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<v Speaker 1>team like Detroit, which is a quality football team, you know,

0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.920
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that their record overall isn't that great.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move to your third pick here real quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, since you said you liked the

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<v Speaker 2>under in the Detroit Chicago game, I completely agree, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a perfect Wong teaser where you can get through

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<v Speaker 2>three and seven this week, take Buffalo on a six

0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.240
<v Speaker 2>point teaser up to eight and a half with a

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<v Speaker 2>low total there of forty Detroit and Chicago take the

0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Lions up to eight and a half with a low

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.439
<v Speaker 2>total of forty one and a half. Ideal Wong teaser

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<v Speaker 2>named after Stanford Wong who talked about this in a

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<v Speaker 2>great book that he wrote. But getting through three, getting

0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.360
<v Speaker 2>through seven, right through that corridor, very very important. So

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.159
<v Speaker 2>my favorite NFL play of the week here is actually

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo and Detroit on a teaser. But as far as

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.199
<v Speaker 2>a regular side play goes Minnesota plus three in the

0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Sunday nighter. I mean, you've got a Dallas team here

0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.320
<v Speaker 2>that okay, fine, they're five and three. They've beaten the

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Giants twice, Washington and Miami, who are both awful, and

0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.080
<v Speaker 2>then a good win over the Eagles before Philadelphia kind

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.680
<v Speaker 2>of ironed out some kinks, sort of worked some things

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.040
<v Speaker 2>out here. If Minnesota had Adam Feelin, I would absolutely

0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 2>love the Vikings in this spot. Give me a little

0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.800
<v Speaker 2>bit of pause not to have him. But Minnesota is

0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.480
<v Speaker 2>such a good team. Last week I give Kansas City

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of credit for stepping up defensively, holding Minnesota

0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.120
<v Speaker 2>to three hundred and eight yards, but prior to that,

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota just racking up yards on everybody. Again, maybe they

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 2>played a little bit of a softer schedule in there,

0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 2>but I think it gave you know, first year offensive

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Cordator and Kevin Stefanski a little bit more time to

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 2>get some confidence going with this offense, to get some

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 2>confidence going for Kirk Cousins as well. Mike Zimmer is

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.200
<v Speaker 2>a huge mismatch, maybe the biggest mismatch of the week

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.840
<v Speaker 2>against Jason Garrett. Minnesota has been excellent when they've played

0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.320
<v Speaker 2>outside the NFC North. Dallas really only plays well against

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the NFC East. I think Minnesota is absolutely the right

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>side on Sunday night, not even just plus the three.

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:46.680
<v Speaker 2>But they should win this game outright.

0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.439
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, I think they are going to win

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the game out right. There are a bunch of things

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.360
<v Speaker 1>here that I'm thinking about. First of all, the Cowboys

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.320
<v Speaker 1>are obviously on a short week. The thing is, they

0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.120
<v Speaker 1>really did not look that good against the Giants. They

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.439
<v Speaker 1>just you know, they started pouring it on little bit late.

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.959
<v Speaker 1>But the Giants are a vastly inferior team. You've got

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.320
<v Speaker 1>a Marii Cooper who is banged up right now. Actually,

0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup, although we practiced in full, was added to

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the injury port right now, so they are both dealing

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>with some sort of injury. At least I think both

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>will play, but they're a little bit banged up. Me

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and all the Vikings. I mean, that was a tough

0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 1>loss last week and they kind of need to win

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this game. You know, They've got to stay in the

0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 1>hunt here with the Packers doing well. So it's not

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.920
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote I must win game or anything like that,

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but they really need to do whatever they can to

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 1>try to pull it out. In terms of Kirk Cousins, look,

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.879
<v Speaker 1>he has been playing really well this year. I've been

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.120
<v Speaker 1>really impressed by him. But he plays really really well indoors.

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Now most of those are home games, of course, but

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:40.880
<v Speaker 1>right now, I mean the Cowboys technically have the open

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>roof and everything like that, but this is, for all

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.880
<v Speaker 1>intents and purposes, a game that's going to be indoors

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>on the turf. Of course, you do have no Adam dealing.

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I agree that hurts them a little bit, but I

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>think it was it hurt them more last week against

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City because they weren't prepared for it. You know,

0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.639
<v Speaker 1>their offense looked fine and they got Digs heavily involved.

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Diggs was barely involved last week, and the Chiefs they

0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:02.960
<v Speaker 1>get Digs heavily involved when they have the week to

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.159
<v Speaker 1>game plan around the fact that Feelan is not going

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 1>to be there, which they have right now. I think

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook is going to have a huge game like

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>he always does, so I agree with you at this point.

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, the Cowboys coming off that win, but coming

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>off a short week, you've got kind of a desperate

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Vikings team and indoors, I agree with you. I like

0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 1>them getting the three points here.

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And I think Dallas not even just this week, but

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Dallas is probably a fad team going forward. Tough road

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 2>game at Detroit next week, at New England. The following week,

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 2>short week on Thanksgiving, they play against Buffalo, where you

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.400
<v Speaker 2>know they will be a home favorite in that game,

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 2>but Buffalo, as we know, very very good defensively. I

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 2>think the next few weeks could be very challenging for

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Dallas as the schedule really really ramps up for them.

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think betting against Jason Garrett has generally been

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a profitable move, so I can't argue with any of that.

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 1>For my third pick, I'm going to vomit all over myself,

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>but I am going to take the Bengals getting ten

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:55.359
<v Speaker 1>from the Ravens.

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I like this a little bit more when it looked

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.320
<v Speaker 1>like aj Green would play. It sounds like he's not

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 1>only not going to play this week, but may not

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>play for the remainder of the season. But as we

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about, this is a pretty ugly card this week

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>given all the byes, So I'm still going to go

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:11.120
<v Speaker 1>with them getting the ten. This is far less about

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>which team is good against this and which team is

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>bad against this, and far more about the spots that

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>both these teams find themselves in. The Ravens come off

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>this absolutely enormous win against the Patriots in prime time.

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>This has to it just has to be a little

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>bit of a letdown spot for them. And you can

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>have a letdown spot against the Bengals and still win

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty easily. But the Bengals are also coming off the bye,

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>during which they have changed quarterbacks from Andy Dalton to

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Finley. I think the team is probably going to

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>come out with a little bit of energy. I think

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to see some creative offensive plays here.

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the team's ohn eight, they've got nothing to lose.

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to see some you know, a

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit more razzle dazzle than you've seen so far

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>as they try to eke out a win against the

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>division rival. And you know, look, the Bengals are terrible,

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but remember that they covered that big spread earlier in

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the season against the Ravens, and with a they're getting

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit healthier. They got Drake Kirkpatrick and William

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Jackson are coming back, or at least they're probably both

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>at one hundred percent dark as Denard Carlos and John Miller,

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>they look likely to play. Cordy Glenn may finally suit

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>up after his concussion. That'd be a big boost to

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. So the Ravens are almost certainly gonna

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>win this game. But when you're talking about double digits,

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned it earlier when you talked about the Falcons,

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you get double digits on any NFL team, It just

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>makes you kind of want to really dig into that.

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.679
<v Speaker 1>And here there are just a lot of ways for

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals to eat out a back door cover like

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>they did the first game against the Ravens. So again,

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>after that emotional win, with the Bengals changing quarterbacks, off

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a bye, getting healthier, I'm gonna take them getting double

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>digits in points well and again.

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you look at that first game and look,

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you said it was a backdoor cover since they had

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 2>got badly out gained in that one. But that line

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>was Baltimore minus ten and a half in home. This

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 2>line is Baltimore minus ten and a half on the road.

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, in the span of four weeks with a

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati team coming off of a bye, can you really

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 2>say these two teams six points different? I don't think so.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I know, Baltimore got that nice win over New England

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 2>last week that probably propped this line up a little bit.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're saying that there's a downgrade from Andy Dalton

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 2>to Ryan Finley, but I don't think that's the case.

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you flip home field here, is there

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>any way in hell you'd lay sixteen and a half

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>with Baltimore. I wouldn't, not in the spot that they're in,

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>not against the team coming off of a bye where

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>you don't have any film on Ryan Finley either, So

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I think Cincinnati does make a lot of sense here

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 2>this week. Maybe it's just an anti Baltimore play coming

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 2>off the spot, but I've gotta think Ryan Finley looks better.

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 2>And one other point here, like I talked about with

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.199
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans over their bye week, everything went great. You know,

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay lost, Minnesota loss, San Francisco, you know, had

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of trouble with Arizona. Everything was great, everything

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>was peachy for New Orleans. What happened on Cincinnati's buy

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 2>one of the teams without a win got a win.

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 2>So now you're oh to eight and you're sitting there

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 2>thinking we can't be the Owen sixteen team. Now, of

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 2>course they're probably not going to be Baltimore, but still,

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean it probably gives them a little bit more focus,

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more incentive to go out there and

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, not embarrass themselves this week.

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I completely agree with that. That's a really good point.

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>The fact that the Dolphins won. They are the only

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>winless team at this point. I mean, it is one

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why I do think they're gonna get

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>creative here, right. I mean, you know, in the end,

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 1>what do they have to lose. It's gonna be one

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of these games where I feel like you're gonna see

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:25.479
<v Speaker 1>them go for it on fourth and one from their

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>own forty because you know, at this point, just do something.

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>And I agree, Look, you know, Andy Dalton is not

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the worst quarterback in the NFL. Okay, but certainly it's

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>not as if you're like, well, I don't know, we're

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>going from Andy Dalton to Ryan Finley. Finley is fine.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 1>He can play, he was fine in college. He can

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>get He's not probably not gonna push them all like

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>crazy or anything in his first game. But they're fine.

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And even without Green, they have Tyler Boyd, they have

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, Audentate, They've got enough receivers. Hopefully the coaching

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>staff figures out a way to better utilize Joe Mixon,

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>which is something basically that people have been screaming about

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>for years, regardless of the coaching staff. So yeah, I

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>with you here. You know they're going to be motivated.

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to come out with a little

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 1>bit of energy up at the game. And again, it's

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>so hard. We've seen this time and time again. You

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>had such an emotional win for the Ravens. To beat

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots on Sunday Night. It's just got to be

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a letdown. And again, that doesn't

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>mean that they're gonna just complete a tack. I don't

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>think the Bengals are going to win or anything like that,

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know, that's sort of an opening for a

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>team like the Bengals to maybe get off to a

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>fast start.

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>And one other thing is Zach Taylor, right, I mean,

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 2>this guy is supposedly a quarterback guru. You know, he

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 2>worked obviously made Jared Goffinho a pretty good NFL quarterback

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 2>at least at home. Zach Taylor knew that this was

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the last year of Andy Dalton, and he prioritized Ryan

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 2>Finley in the NFL draft. You know, they could have

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>taken a quarterback earlier because they knew that this would

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 2>be the last year with Dalton, because Dalton wasn't going

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>to do anything to get himself a huge contract from Cincinnati,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>especially with the new coach that you know didn't even

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.959
<v Speaker 2>draft him, and he isolated Ryan Finley. As much as

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>we don't know about Ryan Finley, if a guy like

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor, who's been around quarterbacks, was in that Sean

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>McVay system, so on and so forth. If he likes

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Finley, why shouldn't I like Ryan Finley.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great point. That's a really really

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>good point. And again, you know, really what we're talking

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>about is it just it can't be a significant doubgrade

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>no matter what it is, it just can't be at

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>this point. And if Andy Dalton was in this game

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and they were getting ten, I would feel fine about

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>it completely. So in the end, I think, you know,

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a really good point. And you know, once you're

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>getting into the double digits, we both like the dogs

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>this week. So let's recap here. You like the Falcons

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>getting thirteen from the Saints, the Lions plus two and

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>a half over the Bears, and the Vikings getting three

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>from the Cowboys. Of course, I will mention you did

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>mention your favorite bet of the weekend is the two

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>team teaser Buffalo getting eight and a half and the

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Lions getting eight and a half. Is that right?

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir?

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, good, that's a good one. Actually for me,

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take the Cardinals and the Bucks going over

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty two and a half, the Lions and the Bears

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>going under forty two and a half and the Bengals

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>getting ten from the Ravens. Now, before we move on,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move to it's a trap where we list the

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<v Speaker 1>line of the week that we are avoiding. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you got?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, initially, I actually kind of thought I might like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the sides in this game, but as I

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<v Speaker 2>looked into it a lot more, I just don't. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the Rams and the Steelers. You got a late

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<v Speaker 2>kickoff here at Hinsfield, which is a little bit surprising,

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<v Speaker 2>and somebody that does favor the Rams a little bit

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>here not having to play with that ten am kickoff.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>But oh man, Jared Goff on the road, at least

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<v Speaker 2>for his sake. The weather doesn't look too bad in

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh on Sunday. That could have been a real big worry.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if the Rams have really turned

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>a corner. There's still very one dimensional on offense. They

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>cannot run the football for one reason or another. I

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 2>have very good route runners there that really do help

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>golf more often than not. But Pittsburgh's quick on defense,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>They've rebuilt on the fly. They've gotten very young on

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the defensive side of the ball. They've got some pass

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>rushers with Watt and Bush, and then the Pittsburgh offense,

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm gonna get week in and

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<v Speaker 2>week out, And really I don't know what I'm gonna

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>get from drive to drive with Mason Rudolph doesn't have

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of help at the skill positions. With Smith

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Schuster getting double covered and you know, so much attention

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<v Speaker 2>paid to him. I cannot touch this game one way

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>or another. You can't tease it either way either, because

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a chance that Pittsburgh could get comfortably

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>beaten if you do tease them up to nine and

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a half or something like that. Plus you're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>three or only getting seven. That's a complete stayaway game

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I don't even like the total on it either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I really want to like the Rams

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in this game. That's kind of when I look at

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>it and I just get a good feeling. I'm like, oh,

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel okay about the Rems, but you can't at

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this game sets up really poorly for them because you know,

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they're big problem this year for them is the fact

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that their offensive line has been terrible and Goff without

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>time to sit there and you know, let the receivers

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>run their routes and survey the landscape has been terrible.

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>He's terrible under pressure. And the one thing the Steelers

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>do is they really get pressure on the quarterback. You know,

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Heinz Field is a difficult place to play. And again,

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I like to do when our

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<v Speaker 1>guests come on and they talk about these bets that

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<v Speaker 1>they're avoiding, is I like to look at the breakdown

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>of how our experts are picking them, and this shows

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<v Speaker 1>exactly why you're avoiding it. Fifty three forty seven favor

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the Rams, so basically split right down the middle. So

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it is a game again where the Steelers are also

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a really difficult team to bet on either way because

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>they're so gimmicky, you know what I mean. They're winning games,

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jalen Samuel's last week had thirteen receptions. You

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just can't game plan around that. So for me, I

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>completely agree with you. This is a game I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like out of curiosity. You said you initially liked it

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>when you first looked at it. Was that on the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams or was that on the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I initially liked the Rams a little bit because,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I do want to believe that maybe

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 2>they've turned a corner, maybe they've figured some things out offensively.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 2>And also, I know everyone's trying to copycatch Sean McVay,

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 2>but he's so much better than Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin's

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>just terrible. And look, Pittsburgh would have lost last week

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>probably if Jacoby Brissette doesn't get hurt. Not that Brian

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Hoyer played poorly necessarily, but I mean that completely changed

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the complexion of that game, even though Indianapolis scored a

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>touchdown in that possession where Brissette got hurt, But I

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>mean that could have gone completely differently for the Steelers.

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I was actually on Pittsburgh last week in the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Contest and felt really fortunate to get that one. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't think Pittsburgh's a very good team, and

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Tomlin's a very good coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, they certainly should have lost last week even with

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>why I mean Hoyer threw the pick six, and again

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>even with everything, even with subbing and quarterbacks and the metal,

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>even with no t Y Hilton in there, still if

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Adam Vina Terry doesn't shank that kick at the end

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of regulation, they do lose that game. So it's just

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a really tough team to get a beat on, and

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't particularly like betting against them at home, especially

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.479
<v Speaker 1>I believe this might be their third straight game at

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>home at the point, so they're comfortable right now. And again,

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I just don't feel comfortable with the Rams at this point,

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>given that you know, you don't really know what you're

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>going to see from them, and again they're down Brandon

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Cooks as well, who's out this week, so you really

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what you're gonna get. For me, I'm

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>avoiding the Browns laying three to the bill. So you

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that you are willing to tease the Bills. So

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd really like to hear your thoughts on it. And again,

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I believe if memory serves that you are a Browns fan,

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 1>is that correct?

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm not at the paper bags stage yet,

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>but I'm getting close.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, That's all right. I've been at the paper

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>bag stage in my team for a while. So look,

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>this is a line that I feel like you look

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>at it and you know, putting aside, you know anything

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>that we know about it. It just go to John

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Q public out there and they look at this line

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and I think they're gonna be like, what are you

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about? How are the Bills getting three? At this point?

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they should easily be able to win this

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>game out right now. The Browns have been a disaster

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this year, and I think we talked about it when

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you were on in an early show. They were, you know,

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Mayfield got the most money on them to be the MVP.

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 1>The Browns, I think got the most money on them

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>to win the Super Bowl. So at this point, you

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>have to feel like the public has just been bruised

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>and battered so badly by backing the Browns. So I

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like you look at it and you're like, well,

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the Bills, you know, they're having such a good season,

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 1>they should be able to win. So when you see

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a line like that, for me, there's always a reason

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>for it. Like last week with the Chargers against the Packers,

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think the Packers were laying three and a half,

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and you just looked at it from the surface, from

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>far away, and you're like, man, you know the books

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>are going to get a ton of money on the

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Packers because they're such a public team. Why aren't they

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>making this higher? There's usually some sort of reason for it,

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And when you dive into it, the Bills really just

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>are not nearly as good as their record indicates. Their

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>strength of schedule has been preposterously easy. They are weak

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.720
<v Speaker 1>against the run, which is the one thing the Browns

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>can do, and they're gett Kareem huntbacks, so they add

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a dimension there. So when

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I look at everything, I mean, I guess I kind

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 1>of like the Browns maybe, but I just cannot back

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>them in the end because they've been I've backed them

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>several times this year, right, I backed them against the Patriots,

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and again I didn't think that was terrible performance. I mean,

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I think they got pretty unlucky in that game to

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>not cover. But I've backed them several times. I hit

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>them against Denver last week. It's just basically at a

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>point where I feel like I can't feel comfortable backing

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>them is particularly his favorites, but really in any game.

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>So for me, the Browns length three to the Bills

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is a game I'm avoiding.

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 2>The funny thing is that over the last few years,

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>everyone's kind of gotten their own taste of the Cleveland

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Misery Index about sports. And I mean I've I've lived

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 2>it far more times than I'd like to recount. But

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, look, I mean I've fallen on the public

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>side here of I've seen nothing from the Browns that

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 2>would indicate to me that they can figure this thing out.

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I get it. They've played a very very hard schedule.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 2>The schedule got easier last week with Denver, got much

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 2>easier with Brandon Allen, and they still couldn't take advantage

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 2>of it. Buffalo's played a week schedule. Maybe they're a

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a fraudulent six and two team. Maybe

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland should be better than two and six, But look,

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Baker and I mentioned this on my show which I

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>recorded the Friday edition here just before we started recording.

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Baker can't throw guys open. In college football, his guys

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>had you know, two three yards on a defender. All

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 2>you have to do is put the ball there. In

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, you've got to throw your guy open occasionally,

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and he hasn't made those throws in those tight windows.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 2>He's put balls behind guys, They've been tipped and picked.

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 2>He's put balls, you know, over guys heads. He's not

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 2>an accurate passer, and maybe he's just not a very

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>good quarterback. On the other hand, it could be a

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 2>scheme thing with Freddy Kitchens. But I don't see how

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.959
<v Speaker 2>the Browns get this thing figured out. Baker already said

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>this week, well, we got to force the ball to obj. Okay,

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 2>that's not a great idea. You're not putting Nick Chubb

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 2>out there in third down situations. The opposition knows it's

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>going to be a pass. They're not worried about Dontrell

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Hilliard running on him. Does Kareem Hunt change that? Maybe?

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>But you know what else, Kareem Hunt does take snaps

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 2>away from Nick Chubbho's been their best offensive player. So

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't love that you're trying to keep Beckham happy,

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.839
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to keep Landry happy. They don't know how

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 2>to spread the ball around to all of these different

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 2>weapons here, because there's only one football and the Bills

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 2>are a very good defensive team. Say what you will

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>about the schedule, they're still very very stout on that

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>side of the ball. If Cleveland takes advantage of the

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 2>weaker schedule here quote unquote and beats the Bills, so

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>be it. They're gonna have to prove it to me.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 2>I may end up taking Buffalo there plus three in

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the super contest as opposed to two and a half,

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 2>so I may end up on him there. I still

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 2>think the teaser with one leg being Buffalo is a

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 2>great idea. But I have no confidence in the Browns.

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's not my jaded Cleveland fandom. It's just watching

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 2>this team week in and week out. I don't think

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Baker knows how to fix it. I know Kitchens doesn't

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.439
<v Speaker 2>know how to fix it. Monkan has really no say

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 2>as the offensive coordinator. They're a mess, and you're not

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna fix a mess against a good defensive team.

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's crazy to me. By the way,

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that Mungan is not involved basically whatsoever. I mean, what

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is the point of him being there? You know, essentially

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>he certainly did good things when he was with the

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Bucks in terms of offensively, So really it's mind by

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and I heard that today, And again I don't remember

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>if it was you. It might have been because obviously

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you're a Browns fan. But I remember in a preseason

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>episode we talked about how things could just go south

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>for the Browns because especially regardless of their schedule. But again,

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the personalities in that locker room, it's just it's too combustible.

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to see them really getting up for the game,

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, which again is why the

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>line it strikes me as strange. You know, I get

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're home, and I you know, I get where

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>it might have been at the look ahead line, but

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>at this point, everything about them screams that they're just

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>checked out. So it's really hard for me to do.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.879
<v Speaker 1>But again, when there's a line like this that makes

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>me kind of say, what am I missing? One am

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I missing? What am I missing? It's usually a line

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that makes me want to stay away. So I'm gonna

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna run from this one, and so I'll be

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>avoiding the Browns laying three did the Bills, and you

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>were going to be avoiding the Rams laying three and

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and start us off.

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think you're gonna like this one too much.

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do think the Bengals are a pretty

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>decent look this week, But I'm gonna go with Lamar

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Jackson rushing yards over. I mean, I'm not exactly sure

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 2>what this prop's gonna be. We are recording on Thursday,

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.439
<v Speaker 2>so you know, a lot of player props not out yet.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>But Sincanty gave up one hundred and fifty two rushing

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>yards to Lamar Jackson in the first meeting. I mean,

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 2>it's just the kind of thing that Lamar Jackson can do.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I think since Sandy had a pretty good game plan,

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>But when you get a quarterback that can improve the

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>way that he can, it's very, very tough to stay

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 2>in converage. It's very tough to you know, try and

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>hold contain. Since he I has given up one hundred

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 2>and forty one more rushing yards to quarterbacks than the

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.760
<v Speaker 2>other than any other team in the NFL, largely because

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 2>of that first meeting with Lamar Jackson, I'm not sure

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I see this week's one going any differently.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I can't really disagree with you, especially

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>since I feel like, you know, Jackson kind of wanted

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk earlier in the season about I don't really

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>want to run necessarily, you know, I like passing and

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Now we're just kind of leaning into it,

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 1>which is good. You know, in the end. The big

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>thing about the Bengals, you know, as much as I

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>do think that they're going to be able to cover

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the ten, is they can't tackle. And they've had some

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of these games this year where they just come out

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was against the forty nine Ers earlier,

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, against the Seahawks it's okay, but you know,

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>against the forty nine ers certainly in other games where

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they just can't tackle, and when you get Lamar Jackson

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of in open field they're scrambling or anything like that.

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he is somebody who's probably going to have

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>a pretty big rushing total this week. So you know,

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>again it's not something that necessarily goes against the spread

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.399
<v Speaker 1>because again that's that's just you know, it's not gonna

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>be an explosive player or anything. I mean, it could,

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of course, but for the most part with rushing, it's

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 1>just going to kind of keep the clock moving and

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>everything like that, hopefully take longer drives to keep the

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>game closer than an otherwise would be. But in the end,

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't dislike, you know, going over on Jackson QB.

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Rushing props generally make me a little nervous. Legitimately, they

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>make me a little nervous just because you can scramble,

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 1>so when you're going over, especially with a guy like Jackson,

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I really don't have a problem with that.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just one of those things too, like you know,

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 2>with both of us being on since Ay started interrupt. No,

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things where when you look at

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 2>the games where Jackson has had to run and has

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 2>had success running, it's been a closer game. So if

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you think it's going to be a closer game here

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's going to need his legs, he uses them.

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, in the games where he hasn't run a

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>whole lot. The win over Miami not a big surprise.

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Eight carries, in the loss to Kansas City where they

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>were trailing by you know, double digits a decent part

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 2>of that game, and the game against Cleveland nine carries

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 2>where they gave up forty points and the Browns just

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>had not a boy experience other than that, in closer games,

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Jackson's had to run. So if you like the Bengals here,

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>there's probably some correlation with Jackson in future Ravens games.

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 2>If they're going to need his legs, he will be

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.479
<v Speaker 2>there with them. So if you do, like the other

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.439
<v Speaker 2>side of a game against Baltimore, it's almost like a

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 2>like a pseudo hedge or a quasi middle to take

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Jackson over the rushing yards because he'll think that they

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 2>need him.

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it. This is totally synergy right now. Yeah, no,

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I'm inclined to agree with you on

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that one. I do think that there'll be a big

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 1>running game here. Now, I also think there's going to

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>be a big running game from Aaron Jones. So I'm

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>going to take him over one hundred rushing yards and

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a plus two hundred, So you know you're getting

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>some odds here. This isn't something where necessarily the odds

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>are with it to happen. And he's only done it

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>twice this year, and he's coming off a game where

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>he just gained thirty yards rushing, but they ran just

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.359
<v Speaker 1>fifty plays against the Chargers. So I think this is

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a get right game here against

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the Panthers for the Packers at home. The Panthers defense

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>remains strong against the pass, but they are definitely vulnerable

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>against the run. They have shown that the last two

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>weeks against the forty nine Ers and the Titans, where

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Tevin Coleman and Derek Henry kind of ran all over them.

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Jamal Williams is still there and he's going to get

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>his seven to ten touches per game or whatever. But

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I think this is the type of game where Jones

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>can see closer to these sixteen to twenty carries as

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the Packers look to control the game. I do think

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that the Packers are going to win this game as

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>they come home, and they were embarrassed last week in

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, so I do think that it's a game

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>where they're going to be ahead and they're going to

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>rely a little bit more on the run, particularly because

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the panther's efficiency. So it's a big number, and

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>again it's plus two hundred. It's the same thing with

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Robbie Anderson that I did last week. When you're getting

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, good odds, it's something it's not that you

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>necessarily expect it definitely to happen, but given the odds,

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I think of him going over. I'm there, So you know,

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're getting two to one on your money for

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>this one, given the fact that I do expect the

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:49.959
<v Speaker 1>Packers to be playing from ahead, for them to rely

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more on their round games since I

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>got away from it last week. I'll take plus two

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>hundred for Jones to go over one hundred rushing yards.

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I like d You know, when you talk about obviously

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>we've got college basketball going on now, you start looking

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>at spreads that are in the six, six and a half, seven,

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 2>seven and a half point range because that's kind of

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>the falling area. So you think about, you know, looking

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>into bet overs because you expect the game to be

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>extended at the end with a lot of falls, and

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 2>of course you want to try and get every half

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.240
<v Speaker 2>point possible because you, again, it is in that falling

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 2>range this game. I think it makes sense to go

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 2>with a running back over type of prop and also

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 2>to take a little bit of odds with it, because

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 2>you're in that one to two score range of between

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>a field goal and a touchdown to where Green Bay

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 2>may be salting this game away in the fourth quarter.

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of what the line would suggest to you

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, which would mean Aaron Jones, which would

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 2>mean giving him touches, trying to assert the line of

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>scrimmage a little bit more so. I think this is

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 2>the right type of spread range to take a little

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 2>bit of a shot like that, getting two to one

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>on a rushing yards prop, expecting the game plays out

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 2>as anticipated and that Jones does wind up as you mentioned,

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 2>getting a good handful of toats there.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the spread is in that dead number right now

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 1>at five, which again I like you know, it's been

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>bouncing back and forth to five and five and a

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>half from what I've seen all week. I do expect

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that to sort of be how it's going to be.

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.919
<v Speaker 1>I could, you know, see the Packers playing a lot

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>from ahead and then just kind of leaning on Jones

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 1>at the end again, because that's really where you attack

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the Panthers defense to the extent you are able to

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>control the game. It's certainly their rushing defense rather than

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>their passing defense. All right, that's going to do it

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>for today's show. Thanks again for joining me and and

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0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:04.799
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's a trend that certainly you and I are

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>both glad to see, and I think it's just going

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to continue that way. Thanks again for coming on and

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