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Speaker 1: Hey there everyone. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by bet MGM. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Dan Harris. You can find me on Twitter at Dan

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Speaker 1: Harris eighty. It is time to break down some of

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Speaker 1: our favorite and our least favorite bets for the week

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Speaker 1: ten NFL slate and with me to talk about it

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Speaker 1: all is Adam Burke, a sports betting writer at bangbook

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Speaker 1: dot com and host of Bang the Book Radio. You

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Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at Skating Tripods. Adam, thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming back on how's it going?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's going well man. How you doing good?

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Speaker 1: I think you might have been our first two time guest,

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Speaker 1: and you were definitely our first three time guests, So

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: This is third times a charm, right.

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Speaker 1: You've got a big reputation here, so you can't let

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Speaker 1: us down. This is a big one here. It's a

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Speaker 1: tough week. We were just talking about it before we

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Speaker 1: started recording. You've got six teams on a buy. There

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Speaker 1: aren't that many games to choose from, so we really

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Speaker 1: need to figure out a way to bring it right here.

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Speaker 1: You guys know the drill? Alrighty. For the Thursday episode,

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Speaker 1: Adam and I are going to be make some of

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Speaker 1: our favorite bets against the spread or on the over under.

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Speaker 1: We'll list a game to avoid, and then we'll give

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Speaker 1: our favorite prop bet. But we are nothing if not

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Speaker 1: accountable here at the Betting Bros Unfel podcast, so let

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Speaker 1: us very quickly review last week. I hit on the

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Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins over forty one and the Eagles

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Speaker 1: Bears under forty two, but thanks to Adam Vinitari, I

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Speaker 1: missed on the Colts laying one to the Steelers. I

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Speaker 1: also whiffed on what I admitted was a very big

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Speaker 1: reach on a prop bet after I'd hit like five straight,

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Speaker 1: which was Robbie Anderson over one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: receiving yards at plus four to twenty five against the Dolphins. Overall,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel all that bad about last week. And

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Speaker 1: while I did bet the Colts because I placed my

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Speaker 1: t Y Hilton injury changed things just a bit after that,

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Speaker 1: so I admit I hedged a little bit prior to Sunday.

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Speaker 1: As for our guests Rick Ryan, he whiffed on both

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Speaker 1: the Redskins getting ten from the Bills, and the Bears

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Speaker 1: under fifty nine and a half rushing yards, but he

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Speaker 1: did hit on the Raiders, laying two to the Lions. Now,

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Speaker 1: listeners should also know that I have never heard anyone

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Speaker 1: quite as upset about missing three of his four picks

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Speaker 1: as Rich was. Seriously, he's probably listening, and Rich you

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Speaker 1: need to get a hold of yourself anyway, Adam, you've

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Speaker 1: been our guests a couple of times, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: so I know you are ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump into it with Pick six, where we each

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Speaker 1: give three of our favorite bets, either against the spread

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Speaker 1: or on the over under. Start us off with one

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Speaker 1: of your favorite bets of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm just gonna run through these through my

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Speaker 2: three here by rotation number, and I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: man game two fifty nine to two sixty Atlanta and

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Speaker 2: New Orleans. I understand why this line is where it is.

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Speaker 2: And you've got a Saints team playing as good as

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Speaker 2: anybody in the NFL. The defense has been fantastic. Now

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Speaker 2: they've got Drew Brees back, but painted thirteen across across

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Speaker 2: most of the market there on that bettingpros dot Com

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Speaker 2: Odd screen. I've got to look at Atlanta in this one.

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Speaker 2: You got a New Orleans team coming off to buy that.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, the way that they were playing, I don't

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Speaker 2: you just got Breeze back, and then all this you're

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Speaker 2: Green Bay lost, Minnesota lost, San Francisco looked human against Arizona.

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Speaker 2: So now New Orleans in the driver's seat, not just

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Speaker 2: They should get Matt Ryan back here this week, and

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm shocked by this one. I'll be honest. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the it's fifty to fifty actually among the fifty eight

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Speaker 1: They're sixty to thirty eight in favor of Atlanta. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: when I look at it, yeah, I can totally see it.

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Speaker 1: But god, you are a brave man betting on Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of how I feel about it. If I

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Speaker 1: it's slim Pickens this week to be fair. It's just suck.

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Speaker 1: They have just shown absolutely nothing. My worry about it, frankly,

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Speaker 1: how are they ever gonna stop New Orleans offense? That's

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Speaker 2: No, I completely agree. I think it's a fair concern,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe you're maybe one of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't have a problem with it, and again,

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Speaker 1: For me, the big thing that I see on it

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Speaker 2: The one caveat that I would have here is if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think really that's the difference with us.

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Speaker 1: over fifty two and a half. Now, this line has

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Speaker 1: are studs. They're finally getting Ronald Jones involved. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I host a fantasy football podcast. I've teased my very

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Speaker 1: good friend Mike Tagler mercilessly about how high he has

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Speaker 1: But assuming that Howard plays here and he is trending

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Speaker 1: the NFL offensively under Cliff Kingsbury's offense. The Bucks can

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Speaker 1: stop the run, but they cannot stop the pass. Murray

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that makes sense. I mean, again, you've

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Speaker 2: It's just it's unbelievable. But I, like you said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Oh see, that's interesting because I thought the line had

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Speaker 2: It looks like I'm seeing it pinnacle. It opened fifty

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Speaker 2: I think it's just one of those types of situations

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Speaker 1: And I'm just looking a little bit at the breakdown

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take a look here. Two sixty five

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Speaker 2: team right now. Matt Nagy just has no clue on offense.

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Speaker 2: Contest as well, but we got damn lucky getting that one.

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Speaker 2: hold that against them. You could say there's been games

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Speaker 2: Patricia's defensive influence is really starting to weigh in here

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Speaker 2: this season. This isn't necessarily as much of a play

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Speaker 2: the Bears just don't deserve to be laying points against

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could not agree with this more actually, And

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Speaker 1: exact point that you made, which is the Lions kind

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Speaker 1: So I really really like this second pick actually, and

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Speaker 1: really much of the reason that you describe. They've played

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Speaker 1: Their defense isn't quite as vauntid as it once was,

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Speaker 1: They're just not gonna get the carries or have that

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Speaker 2: Well, and you look at the Bears here this season.

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Speaker 2: running the football, and we all know that Mitch Trubisky

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Speaker 2: The one really bad thing about this Detroit defense their

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Speaker 2: this looks like a game, you know, with some field position,

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think we do. Honestly. I think Patricia really

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Speaker 1: to be So. I'm a Jets fan, right, so I

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Speaker 1: recognize exactly how it looks when a team is just

432
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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, throwing their hands up in the

433
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Speaker 1: air and saying, I don't really know how much more

434
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Speaker 1: effort we can do. That kind of seems like where

435
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Speaker 1: the Bears are heading because Trubisky just gives them almost

436
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Speaker 1: no chance to win at this point. So I see

437
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Speaker 1: them kind of relying on their defense, like I said,

438
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Speaker 1: But again, there's no way they should be laying points

439
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Speaker 1: at this point to anyone, pretty much. I mean, obviously,

440
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Speaker 1: you know, you got the Dolphins fine, but not a

441
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Speaker 1: team like Detroit, which is a quality football team, you know,

442
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Speaker 1: despite the fact that their record overall isn't that great.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to your third pick here real quickly.

444
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Speaker 2: I will say this, since you said you liked the

445
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 2: under in the Detroit Chicago game, I completely agree, we've

446
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 2: got a perfect Wong teaser where you can get through

447
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,120
Speaker 2: three and seven this week, take Buffalo on a six

448
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 2: point teaser up to eight and a half with a

449
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Speaker 2: low total there of forty Detroit and Chicago take the

450
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 2: Lions up to eight and a half with a low

451
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Speaker 2: total of forty one and a half. Ideal Wong teaser

452
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 2: named after Stanford Wong who talked about this in a

453
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Speaker 2: great book that he wrote. But getting through three, getting

454
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Speaker 2: through seven, right through that corridor, very very important. So

455
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Speaker 2: my favorite NFL play of the week here is actually

456
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Speaker 2: Buffalo and Detroit on a teaser. But as far as

457
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Speaker 2: a regular side play goes Minnesota plus three in the

458
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Speaker 2: Sunday nighter. I mean, you've got a Dallas team here

459
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Speaker 2: that okay, fine, they're five and three. They've beaten the

460
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Speaker 2: Giants twice, Washington and Miami, who are both awful, and

461
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Speaker 2: then a good win over the Eagles before Philadelphia kind

462
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 2: of ironed out some kinks, sort of worked some things

463
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Speaker 2: out here. If Minnesota had Adam Feelin, I would absolutely

464
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Speaker 2: love the Vikings in this spot. Give me a little

465
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Speaker 2: bit of pause not to have him. But Minnesota is

466
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Speaker 2: such a good team. Last week I give Kansas City

467
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Speaker 2: a lot of credit for stepping up defensively, holding Minnesota

468
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Speaker 2: to three hundred and eight yards, but prior to that,

469
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Speaker 2: Minnesota just racking up yards on everybody. Again, maybe they

470
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Speaker 2: played a little bit of a softer schedule in there,

471
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Speaker 2: but I think it gave you know, first year offensive

472
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Speaker 2: Cordator and Kevin Stefanski a little bit more time to

473
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Speaker 2: get some confidence going with this offense, to get some

474
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Speaker 2: confidence going for Kirk Cousins as well. Mike Zimmer is

475
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Speaker 2: a huge mismatch, maybe the biggest mismatch of the week

476
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Speaker 2: against Jason Garrett. Minnesota has been excellent when they've played

477
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Speaker 2: outside the NFC North. Dallas really only plays well against

478
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Speaker 2: the NFC East. I think Minnesota is absolutely the right

479
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Speaker 2: side on Sunday night, not even just plus the three.

480
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Speaker 2: But they should win this game outright.

481
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Speaker 1: No, I agree, I think they are going to win

482
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Speaker 1: the game out right. There are a bunch of things

483
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Speaker 1: here that I'm thinking about. First of all, the Cowboys

484
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Speaker 1: are obviously on a short week. The thing is, they

485
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Speaker 1: really did not look that good against the Giants. They

486
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Speaker 1: just you know, they started pouring it on little bit late.

487
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Speaker 1: But the Giants are a vastly inferior team. You've got

488
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Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper who is banged up right now. Actually,

489
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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, although we practiced in full, was added to

490
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Speaker 1: the injury port right now, so they are both dealing

491
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Speaker 1: with some sort of injury. At least I think both

492
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Speaker 1: will play, but they're a little bit banged up. Me

493
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: and all the Vikings. I mean, that was a tough

494
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Speaker 1: loss last week and they kind of need to win

495
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Speaker 1: this game. You know, They've got to stay in the

496
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Speaker 1: hunt here with the Packers doing well. So it's not

497
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Speaker 1: quote unquote I must win game or anything like that,

498
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: but they really need to do whatever they can to

499
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Speaker 1: try to pull it out. In terms of Kirk Cousins, look,

500
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Speaker 1: he has been playing really well this year. I've been

501
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Speaker 1: really impressed by him. But he plays really really well indoors.

502
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: Now most of those are home games, of course, but

503
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Speaker 1: right now, I mean the Cowboys technically have the open

504
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: roof and everything like that, but this is, for all

505
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Speaker 1: intents and purposes, a game that's going to be indoors

506
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Speaker 1: on the turf. Of course, you do have no Adam dealing.

507
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: I agree that hurts them a little bit, but I

508
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Speaker 1: think it was it hurt them more last week against

509
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Speaker 1: Kansas City because they weren't prepared for it. You know,

510
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: their offense looked fine and they got Digs heavily involved.

511
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Speaker 1: Diggs was barely involved last week, and the Chiefs they

512
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Speaker 1: get Digs heavily involved when they have the week to

513
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: game plan around the fact that Feelan is not going

514
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Speaker 1: to be there, which they have right now. I think

515
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is going to have a huge game like

516
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: he always does, so I agree with you at this point.

517
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Speaker 1: You know, the Cowboys coming off that win, but coming

518
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: off a short week, you've got kind of a desperate

519
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: Vikings team and indoors, I agree with you. I like

520
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Speaker 1: them getting the three points here.

521
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: And I think Dallas not even just this week, but

522
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: Dallas is probably a fad team going forward. Tough road

523
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: game at Detroit next week, at New England. The following week,

524
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Speaker 2: short week on Thanksgiving, they play against Buffalo, where you

525
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: know they will be a home favorite in that game,

526
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Speaker 2: but Buffalo, as we know, very very good defensively. I

527
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: think the next few weeks could be very challenging for

528
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Speaker 2: Dallas as the schedule really really ramps up for them.

529
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Speaker 1: Well, I think betting against Jason Garrett has generally been

530
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Speaker 1: a profitable move, so I can't argue with any of that.

531
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Speaker 1: For my third pick, I'm going to vomit all over myself,

532
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: but I am going to take the Bengals getting ten

533
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Speaker 1: from the Ravens.

534
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Speaker 2: Now.

535
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Speaker 1: I like this a little bit more when it looked

536
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Speaker 1: like aj Green would play. It sounds like he's not

537
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: only not going to play this week, but may not

538
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: play for the remainder of the season. But as we

539
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: talked about, this is a pretty ugly card this week

540
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: given all the byes, So I'm still going to go

541
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Speaker 1: with them getting the ten. This is far less about

542
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: which team is good against this and which team is

543
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: bad against this, and far more about the spots that

544
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: both these teams find themselves in. The Ravens come off

545
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: this absolutely enormous win against the Patriots in prime time.

546
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: This has to it just has to be a little

547
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: bit of a letdown spot for them. And you can

548
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Speaker 1: have a letdown spot against the Bengals and still win

549
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: pretty easily. But the Bengals are also coming off the bye,

550
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: during which they have changed quarterbacks from Andy Dalton to

551
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Speaker 1: Ryan Finley. I think the team is probably going to

552
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: come out with a little bit of energy. I think

553
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: you're probably going to see some creative offensive plays here.

554
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the team's ohn eight, they've got nothing to lose.

555
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see some you know, a

556
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: little bit more razzle dazzle than you've seen so far

557
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: as they try to eke out a win against the

558
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: division rival. And you know, look, the Bengals are terrible,

559
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: but remember that they covered that big spread earlier in

560
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: the season against the Ravens, and with a they're getting

561
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: a little bit healthier. They got Drake Kirkpatrick and William

562
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: Jackson are coming back, or at least they're probably both

563
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: at one hundred percent dark as Denard Carlos and John Miller,

564
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: they look likely to play. Cordy Glenn may finally suit

565
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: up after his concussion. That'd be a big boost to

566
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: the offensive line. So the Ravens are almost certainly gonna

567
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: win this game. But when you're talking about double digits,

568
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier when you talked about the Falcons,

569
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: you get double digits on any NFL team, It just

570
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: makes you kind of want to really dig into that.

571
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Speaker 1: And here there are just a lot of ways for

572
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Speaker 1: the Bengals to eat out a back door cover like

573
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Speaker 1: they did the first game against the Ravens. So again,

574
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Speaker 1: after that emotional win, with the Bengals changing quarterbacks, off

575
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Speaker 1: a bye, getting healthier, I'm gonna take them getting double

576
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: digits in points well and again.

577
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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at that first game and look,

578
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: you said it was a backdoor cover since they had

579
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: got badly out gained in that one. But that line

580
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: was Baltimore minus ten and a half in home. This

581
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: line is Baltimore minus ten and a half on the road.

582
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean, in the span of four weeks with a

583
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Cincinnati team coming off of a bye, can you really

584
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: say these two teams six points different? I don't think so.

585
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: I know, Baltimore got that nice win over New England

586
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: last week that probably propped this line up a little bit.

587
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: Maybe they're saying that there's a downgrade from Andy Dalton

588
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: to Ryan Finley, but I don't think that's the case.

589
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if you flip home field here, is there

590
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: any way in hell you'd lay sixteen and a half

591
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: with Baltimore. I wouldn't, not in the spot that they're in,

592
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: not against the team coming off of a bye where

593
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: you don't have any film on Ryan Finley either, So

594
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: I think Cincinnati does make a lot of sense here

595
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: this week. Maybe it's just an anti Baltimore play coming

596
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: off the spot, but I've gotta think Ryan Finley looks better.

597
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: And one other point here, like I talked about with

598
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: New Orleans over their bye week, everything went great. You know,

599
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: Green Bay lost, Minnesota loss, San Francisco, you know, had

600
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: all kinds of trouble with Arizona. Everything was great, everything

601
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: was peachy for New Orleans. What happened on Cincinnati's buy

602
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: one of the teams without a win got a win.

603
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: So now you're oh to eight and you're sitting there

604
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: thinking we can't be the Owen sixteen team. Now, of

605
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: course they're probably not going to be Baltimore, but still,

606
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean it probably gives them a little bit more focus,

607
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more incentive to go out there and

608
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, not embarrass themselves this week.

609
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with that. That's a really good point.

610
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: The fact that the Dolphins won. They are the only

611
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: winless team at this point. I mean, it is one

612
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I do think they're gonna get

613
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: creative here, right. I mean, you know, in the end,

614
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: what do they have to lose. It's gonna be one

615
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: of these games where I feel like you're gonna see

616
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: them go for it on fourth and one from their

617
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: own forty because you know, at this point, just do something.

618
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: And I agree, Look, you know, Andy Dalton is not

619
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the NFL. Okay, but certainly it's

620
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: not as if you're like, well, I don't know, we're

621
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Speaker 1: going from Andy Dalton to Ryan Finley. Finley is fine.

622
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: He can play, he was fine in college. He can

623
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: get He's not probably not gonna push them all like

624
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: crazy or anything in his first game. But they're fine.

625
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: And even without Green, they have Tyler Boyd, they have

626
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, Audentate, They've got enough receivers. Hopefully the coaching

627
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: staff figures out a way to better utilize Joe Mixon,

628
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: which is something basically that people have been screaming about

629
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: for years, regardless of the coaching staff. So yeah, I

630
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: with you here. You know they're going to be motivated.

631
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: I think they're going to come out with a little

632
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: bit of energy up at the game. And again, it's

633
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: so hard. We've seen this time and time again. You

634
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: had such an emotional win for the Ravens. To beat

635
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots on Sunday Night. It's just got to be

636
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of a letdown. And again, that doesn't

637
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: mean that they're gonna just complete a tack. I don't

638
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: think the Bengals are going to win or anything like that,

639
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: but you know, that's sort of an opening for a

640
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: team like the Bengals to maybe get off to a

641
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: fast start.

642
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: And one other thing is Zach Taylor, right, I mean,

643
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: this guy is supposedly a quarterback guru. You know, he

644
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: worked obviously made Jared Goffinho a pretty good NFL quarterback

645
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: at least at home. Zach Taylor knew that this was

646
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Speaker 2: the last year of Andy Dalton, and he prioritized Ryan

647
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Speaker 2: Finley in the NFL draft. You know, they could have

648
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Speaker 2: taken a quarterback earlier because they knew that this would

649
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Speaker 2: be the last year with Dalton, because Dalton wasn't going

650
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Speaker 2: to do anything to get himself a huge contract from Cincinnati,

651
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Speaker 2: especially with the new coach that you know didn't even

652
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Speaker 2: draft him, and he isolated Ryan Finley. As much as

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Speaker 2: we don't know about Ryan Finley, if a guy like

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655
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Speaker 2: McVay system, so on and so forth. If he likes

656
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Speaker 2: Ryan Finley, why shouldn't I like Ryan Finley.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. That's a really really

658
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: good point. And again, you know, really what we're talking

659
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: about is it just it can't be a significant doubgrade

660
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, it just can't be at

661
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: this point. And if Andy Dalton was in this game

662
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: and they were getting ten, I would feel fine about

663
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Speaker 1: it completely. So in the end, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good point. And you know, once you're

665
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: getting into the double digits, we both like the dogs

666
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: this week. So let's recap here. You like the Falcons

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00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: getting thirteen from the Saints, the Lions plus two and

668
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: a half over the Bears, and the Vikings getting three

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670
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 1: All right, good, that's a good one. Actually for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Cardinals and the Bucks going over

676
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: fifty two and a half, the Lions and the Bears

677
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: going under forty two and a half and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: let's move to it's a trap where we list the

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Speaker 1: line of the week that we are avoiding. What do

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Speaker 2: Well, initially, I actually kind of thought I might like

713
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: one of the sides in this game, but as I

714
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: looked into it a lot more, I just don't. And

715
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: that's the Rams and the Steelers. You got a late

716
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Speaker 2: kickoff here at Hinsfield, which is a little bit surprising,

717
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Speaker 2: and somebody that does favor the Rams a little bit

718
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: here not having to play with that ten am kickoff.

719
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Speaker 2: But oh man, Jared Goff on the road, at least

720
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Speaker 2: for his sake. The weather doesn't look too bad in

721
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on Sunday. That could have been a real big worry.

722
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Speaker 2: But I don't know if the Rams have really turned

723
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: a corner. There's still very one dimensional on offense. They

724
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: cannot run the football for one reason or another. I

725
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: have very good route runners there that really do help

726
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: golf more often than not. But Pittsburgh's quick on defense,

727
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: They've rebuilt on the fly. They've gotten very young on

728
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. They've got some pass

729
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: rushers with Watt and Bush, and then the Pittsburgh offense,

730
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna get week in and

731
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: week out, And really I don't know what I'm gonna

732
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: get from drive to drive with Mason Rudolph doesn't have

733
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: a lot of help at the skill positions. With Smith

734
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: Schuster getting double covered and you know, so much attention

735
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Speaker 2: paid to him. I cannot touch this game one way

736
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: or another. You can't tease it either way either, because

737
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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance that Pittsburgh could get comfortably

738
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: beaten if you do tease them up to nine and

739
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: a half or something like that. Plus you're not getting

740
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Speaker 2: three or only getting seven. That's a complete stayaway game

741
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: for me. I don't even like the total on it either.

742
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I really want to like the Rams

743
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: in this game. That's kind of when I look at

744
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: it and I just get a good feeling. I'm like, oh,

745
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: I feel okay about the Rems, but you can't at

746
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: this game sets up really poorly for them because you know,

747
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: they're big problem this year for them is the fact

748
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: that their offensive line has been terrible and Goff without

749
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: time to sit there and you know, let the receivers

750
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: run their routes and survey the landscape has been terrible.

751
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: He's terrible under pressure. And the one thing the Steelers

752
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: do is they really get pressure on the quarterback. You know,

753
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Heinz Field is a difficult place to play. And again,

754
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: one of the things I like to do when our

755
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: guests come on and they talk about these bets that

756
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Speaker 1: they're avoiding, is I like to look at the breakdown

757
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: of how our experts are picking them, and this shows

758
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: exactly why you're avoiding it. Fifty three forty seven favor

759
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: the Rams, so basically split right down the middle. So

760
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: it is a game again where the Steelers are also

761
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: a really difficult team to bet on either way because

762
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: they're so gimmicky, you know what I mean. They're winning games,

763
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Samuel's last week had thirteen receptions. You

764
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: just can't game plan around that. So for me, I

765
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Speaker 1: completely agree with you. This is a game I don't

766
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: like out of curiosity. You said you initially liked it

767
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: when you first looked at it. Was that on the

768
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Speaker 1: Rams or was that on the Steelers.

769
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I initially liked the Rams a little bit because,

770
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: like I said, I do want to believe that maybe

771
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: they've turned a corner, maybe they've figured some things out offensively.

772
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: And also, I know everyone's trying to copycatch Sean McVay,

773
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: but he's so much better than Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin's

774
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: just terrible. And look, Pittsburgh would have lost last week

775
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: probably if Jacoby Brissette doesn't get hurt. Not that Brian

776
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: Hoyer played poorly necessarily, but I mean that completely changed

777
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: the complexion of that game, even though Indianapolis scored a

778
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: touchdown in that possession where Brissette got hurt, But I

779
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: mean that could have gone completely differently for the Steelers.

780
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: I was actually on Pittsburgh last week in the Super

781
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: Contest and felt really fortunate to get that one. I

782
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Speaker 2: just I don't think Pittsburgh's a very good team, and

783
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Tomlin's a very good coach.

784
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Speaker 1: Now, they certainly should have lost last week even with

785
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: why I mean Hoyer threw the pick six, and again

786
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: even with everything, even with subbing and quarterbacks and the metal,

787
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: even with no t Y Hilton in there, still if

788
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Adam Vina Terry doesn't shank that kick at the end

789
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: of regulation, they do lose that game. So it's just

790
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: a really tough team to get a beat on, and

791
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't particularly like betting against them at home, especially

792
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: I believe this might be their third straight game at

793
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: home at the point, so they're comfortable right now. And again,

794
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: I just don't feel comfortable with the Rams at this point,

795
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: given that you know, you don't really know what you're

796
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: going to see from them, and again they're down Brandon

797
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: Cooks as well, who's out this week, so you really

798
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you're gonna get. For me, I'm

799
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: avoiding the Browns laying three to the bill. So you

800
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: mentioned that you are willing to tease the Bills. So

801
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: I'd really like to hear your thoughts on it. And again,

802
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: I believe if memory serves that you are a Browns fan,

803
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: is that correct?

804
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: I am. I'm not at the paper bags stage yet,

805
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: but I'm getting close.

806
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: All right, That's all right. I've been at the paper

807
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: bag stage in my team for a while. So look,

808
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: this is a line that I feel like you look

809
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: at it and you know, putting aside, you know anything

810
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: that we know about it. It just go to John

811
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: Q public out there and they look at this line

812
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be like, what are you

813
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: talking about? How are the Bills getting three? At this point?

814
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they should easily be able to win this

815
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: game out right now. The Browns have been a disaster

816
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: this year, and I think we talked about it when

817
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: you were on in an early show. They were, you know,

818
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: Mayfield got the most money on them to be the MVP.

819
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: The Browns, I think got the most money on them

820
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. So at this point, you

821
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: have to feel like the public has just been bruised

822
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: and battered so badly by backing the Browns. So I

823
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: feel like you look at it and you're like, well,

824
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: the Bills, you know, they're having such a good season,

825
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: they should be able to win. So when you see

826
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: a line like that, for me, there's always a reason

827
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Speaker 1: for it. Like last week with the Chargers against the Packers,

828
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: and I think the Packers were laying three and a half,

829
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: and you just looked at it from the surface, from

830
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: far away, and you're like, man, you know the books

831
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: are going to get a ton of money on the

832
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: Packers because they're such a public team. Why aren't they

833
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: making this higher? There's usually some sort of reason for it,

834
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: And when you dive into it, the Bills really just

835
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: are not nearly as good as their record indicates. Their

836
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: strength of schedule has been preposterously easy. They are weak

837
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: against the run, which is the one thing the Browns

838
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: can do, and they're gett Kareem huntbacks, so they add

839
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a dimension there. So when

840
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: I look at everything, I mean, I guess I kind

841
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: of like the Browns maybe, but I just cannot back

842
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: them in the end because they've been I've backed them

843
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: several times this year, right, I backed them against the Patriots,

844
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: and again I didn't think that was terrible performance. I mean,

845
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: I think they got pretty unlucky in that game to

846
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: not cover. But I've backed them several times. I hit

847
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: them against Denver last week. It's just basically at a

848
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: point where I feel like I can't feel comfortable backing

849
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: them is particularly his favorites, but really in any game.

850
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: So for me, the Browns length three to the Bills

851
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: is a game I'm avoiding.

852
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: The funny thing is that over the last few years,

853
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of gotten their own taste of the Cleveland

854
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Misery Index about sports. And I mean I've I've lived

855
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: it far more times than I'd like to recount. But

856
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, look, I mean I've fallen on the public

857
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: side here of I've seen nothing from the Browns that

858
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: would indicate to me that they can figure this thing out.

859
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: I get it. They've played a very very hard schedule.

860
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: The schedule got easier last week with Denver, got much

861
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: easier with Brandon Allen, and they still couldn't take advantage

862
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: of it. Buffalo's played a week schedule. Maybe they're a

863
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: little bit of a fraudulent six and two team. Maybe

864
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: Cleveland should be better than two and six, But look,

865
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Baker and I mentioned this on my show which I

866
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: recorded the Friday edition here just before we started recording.

867
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 2: Baker can't throw guys open. In college football, his guys

868
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: had you know, two three yards on a defender. All

869
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: you have to do is put the ball there. In

870
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: the NFL, you've got to throw your guy open occasionally,

871
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: and he hasn't made those throws in those tight windows.

872
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: He's put balls behind guys, They've been tipped and picked.

873
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: He's put balls, you know, over guys heads. He's not

874
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: an accurate passer, and maybe he's just not a very

875
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: good quarterback. On the other hand, it could be a

876
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: scheme thing with Freddy Kitchens. But I don't see how

877
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 2: the Browns get this thing figured out. Baker already said

878
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: this week, well, we got to force the ball to obj. Okay,

879
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: that's not a great idea. You're not putting Nick Chubb

880
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: out there in third down situations. The opposition knows it's

881
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 2: going to be a pass. They're not worried about Dontrell

882
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: Hilliard running on him. Does Kareem Hunt change that? Maybe?

883
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: But you know what else, Kareem Hunt does take snaps

884
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: away from Nick Chubbho's been their best offensive player. So

885
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't love that you're trying to keep Beckham happy,

886
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: You're trying to keep Landry happy. They don't know how

887
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: to spread the ball around to all of these different

888
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: weapons here, because there's only one football and the Bills

889
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: are a very good defensive team. Say what you will

890
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: about the schedule, they're still very very stout on that

891
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: side of the ball. If Cleveland takes advantage of the

892
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: weaker schedule here quote unquote and beats the Bills, so

893
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: be it. They're gonna have to prove it to me.

894
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: I may end up taking Buffalo there plus three in

895
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: the super contest as opposed to two and a half,

896
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: so I may end up on him there. I still

897
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: think the teaser with one leg being Buffalo is a

898
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 2: great idea. But I have no confidence in the Browns.

899
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: And it's not my jaded Cleveland fandom. It's just watching

900
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 2: this team week in and week out. I don't think

901
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: Baker knows how to fix it. I know Kitchens doesn't

902
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 2: know how to fix it. Monkan has really no say

903
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: as the offensive coordinator. They're a mess, and you're not

904
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: gonna fix a mess against a good defensive team.

905
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to me. By the way,

906
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: that Mungan is not involved basically whatsoever. I mean, what

907
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: is the point of him being there? You know, essentially

908
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: he certainly did good things when he was with the

909
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Bucks in terms of offensively, So really it's mind by

910
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: and I heard that today, And again I don't remember

911
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: if it was you. It might have been because obviously

912
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: you're a Browns fan. But I remember in a preseason

913
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: episode we talked about how things could just go south

914
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: for the Browns because especially regardless of their schedule. But again,

915
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: the personalities in that locker room, it's just it's too combustible.

916
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: It's hard to see them really getting up for the game,

917
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, which again is why the

918
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: line it strikes me as strange. You know, I get

919
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: that they're home, and I you know, I get where

920
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: it might have been at the look ahead line, but

921
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: at this point, everything about them screams that they're just

922
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: checked out. So it's really hard for me to do.

923
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: But again, when there's a line like this that makes

924
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: me kind of say, what am I missing? One am

925
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: I missing? What am I missing? It's usually a line

926
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: that makes me want to stay away. So I'm gonna

927
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run from this one, and so I'll be

928
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: avoiding the Browns laying three did the Bills, and you

929
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: were going to be avoiding the Rams laying three and

930
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,360
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944
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: Adam and I list our top player prop for the weekend.

945
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: Go ahead and start us off.

946
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna like this one too much.

947
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think the Bengals are a pretty

948
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: decent look this week, But I'm gonna go with Lamar

949
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: Jackson rushing yards over. I mean, I'm not exactly sure

950
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: what this prop's gonna be. We are recording on Thursday,

951
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 2: so you know, a lot of player props not out yet.

952
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: But Sincanty gave up one hundred and fifty two rushing

953
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: yards to Lamar Jackson in the first meeting. I mean,

954
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: it's just the kind of thing that Lamar Jackson can do.

955
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: I think since Sandy had a pretty good game plan,

956
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: But when you get a quarterback that can improve the

957
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: way that he can, it's very, very tough to stay

958
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: in converage. It's very tough to you know, try and

959
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: hold contain. Since he I has given up one hundred

960
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: and forty one more rushing yards to quarterbacks than the

961
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: other than any other team in the NFL, largely because

962
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: of that first meeting with Lamar Jackson, I'm not sure

963
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: I see this week's one going any differently.

964
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't really disagree with you, especially

965
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: since I feel like, you know, Jackson kind of wanted

966
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: to talk earlier in the season about I don't really

967
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: want to run necessarily, you know, I like passing and

968
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Now we're just kind of leaning into it,

969
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: which is good. You know, in the end. The big

970
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: thing about the Bengals, you know, as much as I

971
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: do think that they're going to be able to cover

972
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the ten, is they can't tackle. And they've had some

973
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: of these games this year where they just come out

974
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: and I think it was against the forty nine Ers earlier,

975
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: and you know, against the Seahawks it's okay, but you know,

976
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers certainly in other games where

977
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: they just can't tackle, and when you get Lamar Jackson

978
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: sort of in open field they're scrambling or anything like that.

979
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: I think he is somebody who's probably going to have

980
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: a pretty big rushing total this week. So you know,

981
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: again it's not something that necessarily goes against the spread

982
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: because again that's that's just you know, it's not gonna

983
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: be an explosive player or anything. I mean, it could,

984
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: of course, but for the most part with rushing, it's

985
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: just going to kind of keep the clock moving and

986
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: everything like that, hopefully take longer drives to keep the

987
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: game closer than an otherwise would be. But in the end,

988
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't dislike, you know, going over on Jackson QB.

989
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: Rushing props generally make me a little nervous. Legitimately, they

990
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: make me a little nervous just because you can scramble,

991
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: so when you're going over, especially with a guy like Jackson,

992
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: I really don't have a problem with that.

993
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: It's just one of those things too, like you know,

994
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: with both of us being on since Ay started interrupt. No,

995
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where when you look at

996
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: the games where Jackson has had to run and has

997
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: had success running, it's been a closer game. So if

998
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: you think it's going to be a closer game here

999
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: and he's going to need his legs, he uses them.

1000
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: You know, in the games where he hasn't run a

1001
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: whole lot. The win over Miami not a big surprise.

1002
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: Eight carries, in the loss to Kansas City where they

1003
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: were trailing by you know, double digits a decent part

1004
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: of that game, and the game against Cleveland nine carries

1005
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: where they gave up forty points and the Browns just

1006
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: had not a boy experience other than that, in closer games,

1007
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: Jackson's had to run. So if you like the Bengals here,

1008
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: there's probably some correlation with Jackson in future Ravens games.

1009
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: If they're going to need his legs, he will be

1010
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 2: there with them. So if you do, like the other

1011
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 2: side of a game against Baltimore, it's almost like a

1012
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: like a pseudo hedge or a quasi middle to take

1013
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: Jackson over the rushing yards because he'll think that they

1014
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: need him.

1015
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: I love it. This is totally synergy right now. Yeah, no,

1016
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm inclined to agree with you on

1017
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: that one. I do think that there'll be a big

1018
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: running game here. Now, I also think there's going to

1019
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: be a big running game from Aaron Jones. So I'm

1020
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: going to take him over one hundred rushing yards and

1021
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: that's a plus two hundred, So you know you're getting

1022
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: some odds here. This isn't something where necessarily the odds

1023
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: are with it to happen. And he's only done it

1024
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: twice this year, and he's coming off a game where

1025
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: he just gained thirty yards rushing, but they ran just

1026
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: fifty plays against the Chargers. So I think this is

1027
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of a get right game here against

1028
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: the Panthers for the Packers at home. The Panthers defense

1029
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: remains strong against the pass, but they are definitely vulnerable

1030
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: against the run. They have shown that the last two

1031
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: weeks against the forty nine Ers and the Titans, where

1032
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman and Derek Henry kind of ran all over them.

1033
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams is still there and he's going to get

1034
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: his seven to ten touches per game or whatever. But

1035
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: I think this is the type of game where Jones

1036
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: can see closer to these sixteen to twenty carries as

1037
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: the Packers look to control the game. I do think

1038
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: that the Packers are going to win this game as

1039
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: they come home, and they were embarrassed last week in

1040
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, so I do think that it's a game

1041
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: where they're going to be ahead and they're going to

1042
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: rely a little bit more on the run, particularly because

1043
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: that's the panther's efficiency. So it's a big number, and

1044
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: again it's plus two hundred. It's the same thing with

1045
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson that I did last week. When you're getting

1046
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, good odds, it's something it's not that you

1047
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: necessarily expect it definitely to happen, but given the odds,

1048
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: I think of him going over. I'm there, So you know,

1049
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: if you're getting two to one on your money for

1050
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: this one, given the fact that I do expect the

1051
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: Packers to be playing from ahead, for them to rely

1052
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more on their round games since I

1053
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: got away from it last week. I'll take plus two

1054
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: hundred for Jones to go over one hundred rushing yards.

1055
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: I like d You know, when you talk about obviously

1056
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: we've got college basketball going on now, you start looking

1057
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: at spreads that are in the six, six and a half, seven,

1058
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: seven and a half point range because that's kind of

1059
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: the falling area. So you think about, you know, looking

1060
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: into bet overs because you expect the game to be

1061
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: extended at the end with a lot of falls, and

1062
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: of course you want to try and get every half

1063
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: point possible because you, again, it is in that falling

1064
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: range this game. I think it makes sense to go

1065
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: with a running back over type of prop and also

1066
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: to take a little bit of odds with it, because

1067
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 2: you're in that one to two score range of between

1068
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: a field goal and a touchdown to where Green Bay

1069
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: may be salting this game away in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of what the line would suggest to you

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Speaker 2: a little bit, which would mean Aaron Jones, which would

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Speaker 2: mean giving him touches, trying to assert the line of

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Speaker 2: scrimmage a little bit more so. I think this is

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Speaker 2: the right type of spread range to take a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a shot like that, getting two to one

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Speaker 2: on a rushing yards prop, expecting the game plays out

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Speaker 2: as anticipated and that Jones does wind up as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: getting a good handful of toats there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the spread is in that dead number right now

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Speaker 1: at five, which again I like you know, it's been

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Speaker 1: bouncing back and forth to five and five and a

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Speaker 1: half from what I've seen all week. I do expect

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Speaker 1: I could, you know, see the Packers playing a lot

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Speaker 1: the Panthers defense to the extent you are able to

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Speaker 1: control the game. It's certainly their rushing defense rather than

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Speaker 1: their passing defense. All right, that's going to do it

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Speaker 1: for today's show. Thanks again for joining me and and

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