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Speaker 1: it has six seven hundred thousand views something like that

427
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: already on YouTube. Um, there are a couple of hundred

428
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: people there, and you're not just playing against your Joe

429
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: Schmo like weekend Golf group. It's this is to beat

430
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Kissler. So it's like all of that. I think

431
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: the Instagram pull that I put up when I said, um,

432
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: who's gonna win us? For kids? It said like eighty

433
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: four percent of people, said Kissinger. So it's like, now

434
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: I have this chance to prove that we could do it.

435
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: I know the put because I just got three perfect

436
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: looks at it, so like I know what it does.

437
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: All I gotta do is hit a straight put the

438
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: right distance, and it's just it's gonna go in. So

439
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: um so yeah, I mean part of me was absolutely like, good,

440
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: I get I get my moment, and now it's up

441
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: to me to deliver. Let's go to where it's Riggs

442
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: putting for bar stool glory walk. You're kidding me. Start

443
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: when when Riggs walked into that pud and I was

444
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: on I was actually over there near him when he

445
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: hit it started walking it in, and I was like,

446
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's no way I'm gonna make mine now.

447
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you could hear all the

448
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: people in the video, but there was a bunch of

449
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: people on the on the boorch and throughout they all

450
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: game the roar when he made it. It was pretty

451
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: pretty epic scene up there. You kidding me. As unlikely

452
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: as it was, the pain would make that putt even

453
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: less blankly that Riggs is going to make that putt,

454
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: and it just it brought so much of his time,

455
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, the the amount of of hate that people

456
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: spewed at him about his putting stroke anytime he would

457
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: post a video of his stroke. Oh my gosh, the

458
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: putting aid recommended every everything. And so the thing that

459
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: it could come down to eighteen that the anchorman, after

460
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: three guys have missed it, would step up, hit the

461
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: putt and then walk it in. Are you kidding me?

462
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it could have worked out in any

463
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: better way. Riggs walking that putt in. I mean, that's

464
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: the benefit of being there for months on months on

465
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: months is you know, you know that green like the

466
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: back of your hand, and he knew as soon as

467
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: he hit it, Like Frankie said, he started walking with

468
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, eight to ten feet left and it's just

469
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: an iconic moment. Also, his putting stroke stink, So he

470
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: gets made fun of all the time, but he actually

471
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: is a pretty damn good putter. He gets the ball

472
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: to the whole. So like him being the anchor um

473
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: was huge that that whole day. And then you know,

474
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: he solidified it on a team as much ship as

475
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: he's gotten over that putter, and how bad his stroke

476
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: is for him to hoop that butt to win. Uh.

477
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: I get to experience cool shit all the time with

478
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: mostly me achievings, but to watch him, to watch him

479
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: do that, he'll never forget that the risk of his life,

480
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: absolutely And I just respond A lot of times I

481
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: just copy that link to like my video of that pot,

482
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: and I just respond to people like you have the

483
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: ugliest putting stroke in the world. I just respond on

484
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: that video, like what can you say about this? Like

485
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: I found a way to get myself to the eighteenth

486
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: green of Piers number two with a huge pot to

487
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: win a big match, and I made it so like

488
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: that's just what else? What else can you really ask for?

489
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: But you're right, It's like I don't know how it

490
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: could possibly get better than that for someone like me

491
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: or like us are doing what we do, Like I

492
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: don't play a major championships like that was it? Like

493
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: we we got to play a p G A pour

494
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: Pro Touring pro pg w g C winner at this

495
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: iconic golf course where I have all these connections now

496
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: and this kind of emotional history and I got to

497
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: hit the pot. It was It was awesome. That's so cool.

498
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: It was great. Having having Kisner here. After the match,

499
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: there was a session around a fire pit at Doring

500
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: at Cottage with with Kisner and the and the barstool

501
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: guys um. So with the theme of this podcast, there

502
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 1: was another fire pit moment that happened at the end

503
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: of that match, which I don't think ended the way

504
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: anybody thought it was going too. We got into the

505
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: livation is pretty well, we all sitting in the rocking

506
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: chairs by the fire pit, and I mean, just an

507
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: incredible even We ended up, you know, doing a couple

508
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: more auction items on on Instagram and Tom Tom was

509
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: being super generous with giving us a couple more trips

510
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: to Pinehurst for the foundation. So, uh, you know that's

511
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: where where all good things happening around the fire pit,

512
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: you know that, And it was it was just a

513
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: cool experience to go there and do that. I tell

514
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: you what, I felt some kind of terrible that next day,

515
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: having to draft home. I took my tail between my

516
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: legs with my loss and got out of there. I

517
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: asked kids her the obvious question, is there gonna be

518
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: a rematch? You know, Rigg has been up there for

519
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: ninety days when we played, or eighty days. He knew

520
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: every break, every ship. I hadn't played there in five years.

521
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take them back to a place that

522
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: I know everything, and I'm gonna dust their ass. As

523
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: you might know, Riggs has inquired about the potential for

524
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: a statue commemorating his putt. You know, Matt, I'm trying,

525
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: like I'm hard, trying to like poke poke passionately a

526
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: little bit and like like I'm kind of kidding, but

527
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: also like give me something like I want to be

528
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: maybe in one of those one of those UM displays

529
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: when you're walking through the hallway, there's like a subtle like,

530
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: wait was that was that? Riggs? And I just saw

531
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: it that like what was that? Like that would something?

532
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: I need something? So again I think that they think

533
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but they also know that a part of

534
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: me is like, you know, come on, like what am

535
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: I gonna do to get on the wall here or something.

536
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: It's there's been a lot of amazing moments that have

537
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: happened on that green and uh, that was certainly one

538
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: of them. UM and we'll just we'll just leave it

539
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: at that. Was that here's a guy who did the

540
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: nine for nine for days, he did the putts. He

541
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: should have made the chip really close, he should have

542
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: made the butt from all that practice, am I right

543
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: pastially told me a statue is out at least for now.

544
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: But how good is the game of golf that it

545
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: facilitates and fosters the unlikely chemistry between barstool Rigs and

546
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: the president of pine Hurst, And after ten years of

547
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: updates and enhancements, how relevant is this resort that man

548
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: and and his ability to juggle everything to miss nothing,

549
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: to also have the foresight to create the cradle and

550
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: how bold that was and blowing up two golf holes

551
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: that have been there forever to put on the front lawn,

552
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: a freaking nine hole golf course that has speakers in

553
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the trees and people were playing barefoot at Pinehurst. Um

554
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: is just so amazing that he was able to do

555
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: all that and and for him to now have become um,

556
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, legitimately one of one of my closest friends

557
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: is UM. It's something that I'm like proud of, Like

558
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: I think it says I think it says a lot

559
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: about me that Tom Ashley likes me. Like that's like,

560
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: that's incredible, because that that guy is awesome and so

561
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm as surprised as he is that that the host

562
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: of four Play podcast is a good friend of mine,

563
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's something that I don't think

564
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: either one of us would have ever anticipated it. We

565
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: met through through your event at the Uncle Tony, and

566
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: we began to find commonalities, and then the more time

567
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: we spent together, the more we realized, you know, with

568
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: kindred spirits. And I think, like I said, when when

569
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: he came here, I don't think any one of us

570
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: knew what to expect, but I think we both got

571
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: more out of it than we ever dreamed of. I asked, passionately,

572
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: going back ten years and prior to all the enhancements,

573
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: if he thought Pinehurst could have held the interest of

574
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: a guy like Riggs for more than three months. The

575
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: fact that he can be here for ninety nine days

576
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: and not be bored out of his skull and find

577
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: a way to entertain in himself each and every day,

578
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: and keep an audience all over the world captivated watching

579
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: him and his pine Urs experience, it really does kind

580
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: of validate everything that's happened here over the last decade.

581
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: For them to have done that is easy for us

582
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: to say now as a success, but but back then, um,

583
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: it's so ballsy and worked out so well that I'm

584
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: really pumped that I got to share it with people,

585
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: because you know, they deserve proper exposure and proper excitement,

586
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: right And I think that that's something that I'm able

587
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: to convey, is that, like, I'm not I'm not posting

588
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: the stuff that I post because I feel this deep

589
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: obligation to I. I share things in my life that

590
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: I've experienced and say, holy ship, this is so good,

591
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: I have to share it. And like the Cradle was

592
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: something that I shared all the time because I just

593
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: couldn't help it. I was like, people, the Internet has

594
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: to see this right now, like they won't believe it.

595
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: And and so you're right, like they deserve that, and

596
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: and the place really is that awesome and it never

597
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: gets old. Frankie has now been to Pineurs three times,

598
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: all within the last eight months. Pastially at one point

599
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 1: made a statement when we were there saying, um, you know,

600
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: Pineers used to be this place where the dad would

601
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: drag the kid there and hope that the kid would

602
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: fall in love with it. But now it's kind of

603
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: turning into like the kid drags the dad there and

604
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: been like, look at what I saw on Twitter, Look

605
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: at this place, look at look how cool this par

606
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: three courses, and like, let's go. Let's go hit the

607
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: same place that Frankie, Trent and Riggs did. And like

608
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: instead of saying like oh Tiger Woods and paints, like

609
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: it's weird like that. It used to be this like

610
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: untouchable place that like only Payne Stewart's putt could go

611
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: in and maybe you see it on TV every once

612
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: every ten years whenever there's a tournament there. But now

613
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, you can just go there. You

614
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: can just stay at the Carolina Hotel. You can you

615
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: can you can eat downstairs, you can get that room

616
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: service Sunday that we talk about on the podcast, and

617
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: you can just go play Piners number two anytime you want.

618
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: This was Kisner's first time seeing the Cradle the Part

619
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: three course. What a cool place to learn how to

620
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: play the game right, Uh short short holes, run ups,

621
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: cool little valleys and stuff to stop your ball. You

622
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: can play off of different slopes, you can gamble, you

623
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: can drink liquor drinks. I mean, the whole, the whole

624
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: setups unbelievable and and to see the transformation. As a kid,

625
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up playing all these tournaments. Pinehurst

626
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: was the mecca, not only at the Connurst Resort but

627
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: around there and all the different courses, and pine Hurst

628
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: was probably always the kind of stuffy place, you know

629
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: that it was the you gotta pay full d dollars

630
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: to play number two. And now it seems like it's

631
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: it's more of a friendly opening. Let's go, let's go

632
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: see this awesome place and you can. You can have

633
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: access to it now, and I think that's really cool.

634
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: Riggs had had access to it for ninety eight days.

635
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: And so here we are the evening before departure. And

636
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: as the Great Dr Seuss once wrote, don't cry because

637
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: it's over. Smile because it happened the night before. We

638
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: actually did, you know, pastially put to other a crew

639
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: that played the Cradle. So it was Barksdale, Bridgers, Dave Pastilely, myself,

640
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Speaker 1: a few other folks on the staff that I'd become

641
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: close with um and we took a spin on the

642
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: Cradle and it was kind of our last finale around

643
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: in the Cradle and we we had a couple of drinks.

644
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: She La had it got us a couple of drinks

645
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: up with the pine cone, and then we did um

646
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Speaker 1: uh dinner at the brewery in the back room at

647
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Speaker 1: the at the Pioneer's Brewing Company. Afterwards, we had a

648
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: lovely dinner and to me, this was this was my farewell.

649
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: I thought, I really honestly thought that was it. And

650
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, I got a pin flag, a

651
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: pineers pin flag from the pro shop and I wrote, um,

652
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, uh, I kind of poured some of my

653
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: feelings out too patially in the whole team on this

654
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: pin flag and put the date on it and signed

655
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: it and presented it to patially at dinner, and I

656
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: read it out loud and I started crying that. I mean,

657
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: I was kind of an emotional mess then because I

658
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: was telling them, you know, right in front of them,

659
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: to their faces, sort of how much they meant to me,

660
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: and how them going above and beyond was not something

661
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: that they had to do. Which brings us to the

662
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: morning of day. And so I'm running around all the morning.

663
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: I finally get up there we're leaving at noon, it's

664
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: like eleven fifty five, and I'd run over to the

665
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: golf shop and I actually looked for Bashley to say goodbye.

666
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: So I wanted to say bye real quick, you know,

667
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: I know last night was the whole thing. But um,

668
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't there. I went to see Dave and and

669
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: he wasn't there, and I was like, something's going on here.

670
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. The bell staff knew him, the front

671
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: desk staff knew him, the coffee shop people at the

672
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: Carolina Hotel. He really had ingrained himself into the daily

673
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: lives of so many of our staff that it felt

674
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: like we wanted to send him off in the right

675
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: way and thank him for what he did, because he

676
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: really did shine a bright, bright light on pine Hurst

677
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: during a very challenging time. And I've got four bags.

678
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: So I've got, you know, two huge Duffel bags full clothes.

679
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: I've got a golf travel case with my golf clubs,

680
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what that's like. Um, and then I've got

681
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: a backpack. So I've got all this stuff. And I

682
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: barely get on the elevator and the elevator door opens,

683
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: Pastially standing there in his in his blazer and um

684
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: and Kevin, one of my guys from the front door

685
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: standing there with Kevin says, you know, Griggsy this is

686
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: gonna be your last walk out. You're not You're not

687
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: carrying your bags, man, I got them here. I am

688
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: just a nobody from Missouri who would have been lucky

689
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: my whole life to just make one trip to Piners

690
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: where I pay every dollar they asked me to pay,

691
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: and here I am. I've been here for ninety nine days.

692
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: And the people that make Piners so special, they came

693
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: from the restaurants, they came from the pro shop. People

694
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: that I've become very close with, have lined up passion.

695
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: You didn't even say it work, and you just said,

696
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of people wanted to see you off.

697
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: I was. You could see me in my finger at

698
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: pastially in the way out, like you son of a bitch,

699
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: because I he knows I'm an emotional guy. I had notes.

700
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna, you know, I was gonna say a

701
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: few words, and he just kept walking straight out the

702
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: door into the car, and I had no chance. In

703
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: that moment, I was overcome with the motion. I was

704
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: surprised by the whole thing. I have so much respect

705
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: and like love for those people, and to see them

706
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: reciprocate that, it just meant so much to me. That

707
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: I I mean, I couldn't even handle it. It just

708
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: meant the world to me. Some reflections on the tearful

709
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: Goodbye Frankie. First, it's not like they like picked him

710
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: up off the street, like he went to freaking Piners

711
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: to go golf. Pinders number two in the Cradle every

712
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: single day. It's like, so obviously you're gonna be emotional

713
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: when you leave me. It's the best place to be

714
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: in the world. I was in my five by five

715
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: room for nine days watching people dropping in the streets

716
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: in New York City. He's he's at the Pioneers Brewery

717
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: playing the Cradle everything when that was transfusion in his hand,

718
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, he better be crying when he leaves. It's

719
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: the greatest thing of all time. It's the greatest move

720
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: in this world during the whole world has been shut down.

721
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: It is the single greatest move that I've ever seen yet.

722
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know if someone wants to pick point

723
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: someone else out that had a better pandemic, but I

724
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: think Riggs had the greatest pandemic, which is a crazy

725
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: thing to say, but listen, it's a funny thing that

726
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: you know that we get to joke around with him

727
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: about it now. And I'm not a sociopath. I I

728
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: understand feelings and connection and and maybe I was a

729
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: little hard on him on the podcast, but like I said,

730
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: I feel like one of them. We had to do

731
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: it to some degree. But like we've been saying the

732
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: whole time, having that sort of connection, meeting those people

733
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: and having friends for life. And I think he is

734
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: going to go to one of the guy's weddings once

735
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: everything is you know, the pandemic is over and all that.

736
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's like I said before, it's

737
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: great for bar Stool, great for Barstool Golf, great for

738
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: four play, for Pinehurs and Barstool to have that sort

739
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: of connection. And maybe, who knows, if I had stayed

740
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: there for ninety nine days made the friendships that he did,

741
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: maybe when I was walking out, I would have wagged

742
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: my finger and the tears would have fallen down my cheek.

743
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Who knows. I wasn't in that position. But Frankie made

744
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: a good point where once you get down there, you

745
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: realize how tight the community is and just how great

746
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: of a place it is. So leaving there after nine

747
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: nine days, I could see how someone could maybe get

748
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: a little emotional. Kevin Kisser. I know we've all seen

749
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: the video of him crying as he was leaving, but

750
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you. I can't speak for you, but

751
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: for me, if I went somewhere for ninety nine days,

752
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get that same reception leaving. They'd probably like, kids,

753
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: get the hell out of here, we're so sick of you.

754
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't think the entire staff would line in the

755
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: halls and give me a walk out. Thomas the Catty.

756
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: That's what Pinehurs does for you. You know, it holds you,

757
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: it cradles you in Golf of America, and then when

758
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: you leave, you're like, what am I I'm missing out?

759
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: Why am I leaving? David Lynsky, who provided some tough love.

760
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I was driving away in a golf

761
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: card and he's just started banging out the vad door

762
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: trying to get our attention. See thirty days, buddy. Unbelievable

763
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Ben Bridgers with a final thought, he's just a genius.

764
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Like when when you think about the whole kids match,

765
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: and and how you know you think about what he

766
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: did in the nine days, I mean, you know he's

767
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: pretty humble about these kind of things. But you know,

768
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: he raised uh, you know what a quarter of a

769
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: million dollars for us and then probably almost almost a

770
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: hundred thousand for kids in his foundation. The kidsner Verse

771
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: four play four man Scramble video, which is an hour

772
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: and seventeen minutes now has over eight hundred and fifteen

773
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: thousand views. I had nothing going on, and so I

774
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: needed to go playing something to get to get kind

775
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: of serious about golf. Right before we went back, Um

776
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: drove up there. We had a great time, and uh,

777
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: I think we raised like ninety thousand dollars together in

778
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: that event. So that's that's the incredible especially you know,

779
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: with our our crowd is kind of the common man,

780
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: and we didn't give a shot if you give a

781
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: dollar or ten thousand, you know. And I just love

782
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: watching all these people, you know, betting with each other

783
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: while we were going, and twenty dollars you know here

784
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: and twenty dollars there. That stuff adds up over time,

785
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: and those are the people we want to support us,

786
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: you know. And lastly, Riggs told me he figures he

787
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: played the Cradle a hundred times, number two forty times.

788
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: Pine Hurst and passionately are still tabulating the tab working

789
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: on it, and and you you gave me some good information.

790
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. He's not disclosed the number of times he

791
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: played the Cradle or number two. We've it's soft, it's

792
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: fuzzy math um. But we're working on it. We're we're

793
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: working on that invoice. We're trying to decide, you know,

794
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: what's the guest fee. He had a lot of accompanied

795
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: guest fees. He he uh, but he did some good

796
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, the auction. What what value do we assign

797
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: to him hosting the auction? So my senses the in

798
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: the end, it's gonna net out. It's gonna net out

799
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: to to you know, be less than a hundred bucks

800
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: either way. But like I said, I think we both

801
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: got more out of this than either party ever anticipated.

802
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: I ask everybody at the end of the podcast, what's

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: your favorite fire pit and why do you have Do

804
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: you have a place that that sticks out amongst the

805
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: rest where me and pastially sat down at that fire

806
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: pit that as at Bandoned and that's when we first

807
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: got to know each other. And that's where this friendship

808
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: began and spawned, and then it concluded and it's sort

809
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: of or I guess grew and flourished at the fire

810
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: pit at the Dorknet Cottage, which is just out back

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Speaker 1: it's god maybe a hundred steps or so from the

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Speaker 1: third Green at Pineheers Number two, Donald Ross's old home.

813
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: And you know, pioneers bought it and they restored it

814
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: and they made it so so so cool. And we

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00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: had several nights where pastially myself, from kiss Ner to

816
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: some of my friends too Ridgers to Dave, to all

817
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: kinds of different people. UM sat around that fire pit

818
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: many different times and talked about God knows what my

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00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,319
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