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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Lakers. They won the franchise's seventeenth championship,
Speaker 1: certainly the strangest one for both the team and the
Speaker 1: four time champion Lebron James. And not because of how
Speaker 1: they won on Sunday night. They showed that they're simply
Speaker 1: a better team than the Miami Heat. And I'm not
Speaker 1: going to take anything away from the Heat. As I've
Speaker 1: told you, they're all heart love watching them play this year,
Speaker 1: not just in the bubble, but the makeup of that team,
Speaker 1: starting from pat Riley, Eric Spoelstra to Jimmy Butler. But
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d were simply too much and the
Speaker 1: bubble added a whole different element here. And maybe it's hindsight,
Speaker 1: but there there was not a normal season. But if
Speaker 1: there was a normal season, the Lakers might have actually
Speaker 1: had an easier time when you come to think of it,
Speaker 1: because they would have had fans there, would have a
Speaker 1: home court advantage there, and I know other teams would
Speaker 1: have had the same. The Clippers probably would have faced
Speaker 1: the Lakers, they would have had home court advantage, and
Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't have blown the three games to one league,
Speaker 1: but spending three months in Orlando presented all kinds of
Speaker 1: new challenges. You had social activism that was in there.
Speaker 1: The Lakers handled everything. They played one of their best
Speaker 1: games in the playoffs last night, and they get the
Speaker 1: ultimate celebration. They get to go home and congratulations on
Speaker 1: an extremely well earned NBA championship. Here is Levan James
Speaker 1: after the title saying what fuels him personally? Thinking I
Speaker 1: have something to prove? Fuse me and I feeled me
Speaker 1: about the last year and a half since my injury.
Speaker 1: They fueled me because no matter what I've done in
Speaker 1: my carevits at this point, there's still a little rumblings
Speaker 1: of doubt or you know, compared me to you know,
Speaker 1: the history of the game, and has he done this,
Speaker 1: has he done that? You know, So having that in
Speaker 1: my head, having it in my mind, saying to myself,
Speaker 1: why not still have something to prove? I think if
Speaker 1: he was Chris Mannox, who covers the NBA for Sports Illustrated,
Speaker 1: what join us coming up? I got to take him
Speaker 1: to task on a freezing cold take that he had
Speaker 1: back in September where he said the Lakers were all
Speaker 1: played for it, This is what Mannox had to say
Speaker 1: back in September on this show. Yeah, I get killed
Speaker 1: every year talking about the Lakers with you because I
Speaker 1: tend to be more skeptical as I was last season.
Speaker 1: But is it not more likely that the Lakers missed
Speaker 1: the playoffs than the championship? I think that, wait this year,
Speaker 1: right now, this year, so the odds are better that
Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs than they win the championship. I
Speaker 1: would say so, yes, Wow, okay Mannox will is coming
Speaker 1: up in about fifteen minutes from now. Yes, mclob I
Speaker 1: love your act. Condition Well, he was basing it off
Speaker 1: of last year with what happened, and you turn over
Speaker 1: the roster and it wasn't a great team as far
Speaker 1: as talent, but you had a D and you had
Speaker 1: Lebron James, and then the offseason, a D as noncommittal
Speaker 1: about staying with the Lakers. He can opt out if
Speaker 1: he wants to. I would think getting a taste of
Speaker 1: the title and still being able to play with Lebron James,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be in Los Angeles, You're gonna be
Speaker 1: the favorites or co favorites, I would think going into
Speaker 1: next year. But I don't know what Anthony Davis's thought
Speaker 1: process is, certainly after winning a championship. Bub we'll talk
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Speaker 1: Since everyone's obsessed with next, why wait for the confetti fall?
Speaker 1: Who do you got next year, the Lakers or the Field?
Speaker 1: And I guess that's only a question if you assume
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is coming back. But I was saying before
Speaker 1: the show, I think they are a stronger favorite next
Speaker 1: year than they are this year because the competition, all
Speaker 1: the superstars are spread out a little bit. Well. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen in Milwaukee, if they
Speaker 1: bring in Chris Paul, if they do something there that
Speaker 1: helps them, and I think they're one player away of
Speaker 1: certainly representing the East seventy six ers with Doc Rivers.
Speaker 1: Not quite sure Toronto is going to reload. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get more out of Pascal Siakam than they did in
Speaker 1: the bubble out West with the Clippers, what do they do?
Speaker 1: Denver is going to be a force. Portland, if they're healthy,
Speaker 1: is going to be a force. Houston, we don't know.
Speaker 1: If you said Lakers in the field, I'd probably take
Speaker 1: the field right now because I'm not quite sure what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with Anthony Davis. And you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of credit that should be spread around with
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I start with Lebron because you know how
Speaker 1: I feel about Lebron ad came in and I think
Speaker 1: he realized what it takes to be a big time
Speaker 1: basketball player. It's one thing to put up stats in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. It's another thing when you're on the big stage.
Speaker 1: You're with the Lakers, you're playing for a championship. You
Speaker 1: understand what that championship means to that city and what
Speaker 1: it means to what your legacy is going to be.
Speaker 1: You won a championship. Man, he was one of the
Speaker 1: better players on the floor. At times, he was the
Speaker 1: best player on the floor. You know, their bench player,
Speaker 1: role players at times you weren't quite sure called well.
Speaker 1: Pope played well. Rajon Rondo played well at times, Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1: You know, they just had a sprinkling in there that
Speaker 1: was just enough. I can't say enough about the Miami
Speaker 1: Heat and Jimmy Butler and how he brought out the
Speaker 1: best in his teammates. And you saw that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they at least got the Lakers attention winning those two
Speaker 1: games and Jimmy Butler, and I was curious just how
Speaker 1: much of a force Jimmy Butler was. And people thought
Speaker 1: I was crazy two games ago when I said, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler is not going to win the MVP, but I
Speaker 1: hope people consider him putting consideration for him to win
Speaker 1: the MV pick. It's only happened once with my beloved
Speaker 1: Jerry West winning the MVP when the Lakers lost to
Speaker 1: the Celtics. The twenty twenty NBA Finals might be remembered
Speaker 1: as a great duel between Lebron and Jimmy Butler. Butler's
Speaker 1: scored or assisted on fifty one percent of Miami's total
Speaker 1: field goals. Lebron scored or assisted on fifty percent of
Speaker 1: the Lakers total. Also, consider this about Lebron James and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into that goat. We're not
Speaker 1: doing that discussion because I'm not changing your opinion. Even
Speaker 1: when Mannix comes on, I'm not talking about the goat.
Speaker 1: We're not going to do it. Lebron has won four championships.
Speaker 1: He's been the Finals MVP for each of those four.
Speaker 1: In each of the four series, he has led his
Speaker 1: team in points, rebounds, and assist Michael Jordan never had
Speaker 1: a Finals in which he led the Bulls in all
Speaker 1: three categories. You're seeing something special. You may not buy
Speaker 1: into it, as you know, Paul Pierce doesn't think he's
Speaker 1: the top five. Charles Barkley doesn't think he's the top five.
Speaker 1: That's on them for whatever their feelings are. Charles played
Speaker 1: in a different era and he wants to acknowledge those
Speaker 1: players he played against. That's his progative. Paul Pierce, for
Speaker 1: some reason, thinks he's as good as Lebron James or
Speaker 1: forgets what happened when Paul Pierce didn't have KG. And
Speaker 1: you know ray Allen Lebron is a top five player
Speaker 1: of all time. You don't want to put him in
Speaker 1: the conversation with Michael that's okay. You don't want to
Speaker 1: do it with Kareem, or you don't want to put
Speaker 1: him in with Kobe, or it's okay. He's a top
Speaker 1: five player of all time. And I can't convince, not
Speaker 1: try to convince. It's politics, it's your favorite band. I
Speaker 1: can't change, and I won't. I just try to enlighten
Speaker 1: you and say what you're seeing is unique. He has
Speaker 1: played in two hundred and sixty playoff games and he
Speaker 1: hasn't missed one, and he averaging a triple double at
Speaker 1: his age. Tack on two more seasons a playoff basketball
Speaker 1: and by the way, his career is still going on,
Speaker 1: so I hope you at least appreciate it. You may
Speaker 1: not like him. There are times that I don't like
Speaker 1: his passive aggressive I don't like that, you know sometimes
Speaker 1: what he says you know about teammates. But when I
Speaker 1: see him on the basketball floor, I am seeing somebody
Speaker 1: that is unique, unique to the game, and hopefully people
Speaker 1: while he's still playing will appreciate that. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to infringe on anybody's turf here and
Speaker 1: say that he's somehow better than I think he's a
Speaker 1: top five player. Whoever else you want to sprinkle in there,
Speaker 1: that's up to you. I'll hold firm that Lebron James
Speaker 1: is one of the top five players of all time,
Speaker 1: and when he's all said and done, we'll look at him.
Speaker 1: This will be the greatest basketball career I think anybody
Speaker 1: has ever put forth. And I'm talking about stats, awards, longevity, consistency, domination,
Speaker 1: like who is the best player in his sport at
Speaker 1: this age, an age where you have to play offense
Speaker 1: and defense, where I can double team you. I had
Speaker 1: to laugh when Jay Williams and Jay's not the only guy,
Speaker 1: but the former Duke player said that Lebron should have
Speaker 1: taken the shot the other night when he threw it
Speaker 1: out to Danny Green. Why is it when Jordan makes
Speaker 1: a pass to Steve Kerr John Paxson and they make
Speaker 1: the shot, it's a great pass. But if Lebron throws
Speaker 1: a pass and somebody misses the shot, then it's bad.
Speaker 1: If Danny Green hits that shot, do we criticize Lebron?
Speaker 1: I maybe not. When Anthony Davis hit that shot against
Speaker 1: the Nuggets, that all that was a good pass. But
Speaker 1: if he misses it, Lebron shot away. Lebron did shy
Speaker 1: away from shots early in his career, right there with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't look at this, you know, through
Speaker 1: rose colored glasses and say Lebron doesn't do you know,
Speaker 1: or he has mistakes or he lays eggs, or he
Speaker 1: you know, bows out of you know, series against the Celtics.
Speaker 1: I understand all of that. You're seeing somebody play the
Speaker 1: game at an extremely high level, and they're doing it
Speaker 1: on the biggest stage. And he did it again against
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat. I know in the bubble, didn't have
Speaker 1: to face anybody. Greg. Okay, we can throw it out there,
Speaker 1: we can put asked, and put an ask and put
Speaker 1: five asterisks there, kiss my asterisk? What other poll questions
Speaker 1: you got my gloving? Okay, NFL, I'm not sure where
Speaker 1: to start exactly, but have we been doing it all year?
Speaker 1: Why not jump into that MVP race. It's crazy how
Speaker 1: many MVP guys there are. Right now, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you these quarterbacks throw interceptions anymore? Now wait, I
Speaker 1: got it right here. This is crazy. You know there's
Speaker 1: no pass interference or there there. You know you're allowed
Speaker 1: to pretty much have free rain down the field. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson Junior, the third He's got nineteen touchdowns, three picks.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes thirteen and one, Derek Carr eleven and one interception.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen twelve touchdowns, one interception. Aaron Rodgers thirteen touchdowns,
Speaker 1: zero interceptions. Ben Roethlisberger ten touchdowns, one interception, Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns, one interception. There's no holding calls like you
Speaker 1: just it feels like, you know, this is like college football,
Speaker 1: because it used to be you'd go, man, these guys
Speaker 1: are completing seventy percent of their passes. Now it's the
Speaker 1: same thing with the NFL. It's kind of crazy so
Speaker 1: trying to. I mean, Russell Wilson is your MVP so far,
Speaker 1: but you know there's there's a pretty good grouping in there. Yeah, McLean. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you take out the former MVPs Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and take out Russell Wilson the
Speaker 1: front ruder, are any of these guys legit? Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. Who you told us to watch out for?
Speaker 1: Ben is Josh Allen? Yes? And that just one dark horse.
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's leading the league in sacks for an inside
Speaker 1: interior lineman. That's never I don't think that's happened in decades.
Speaker 1: I would love to see him get more respect with
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Because we fell in love, We fond
Speaker 1: all over, slobbered all over JJ Watt. We should be
Speaker 1: doing the same thing with Aaron Donald, as great as
Speaker 1: he is, because he's the best defensive player in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's not even close. Yes, club, we kind of do
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's a little different than JJ Watt,
Speaker 1: But Aaron Donald has no national ends. We don't focus
Speaker 1: him on him before the game. You know, JJ Watt
Speaker 1: could be tossing a football with a five year old
Speaker 1: on the field, and you know we're going to turn
Speaker 1: that into a tomer and oldie feature. Actually write the
Speaker 1: story like Jatt was in Bad Moms. I mean he
Speaker 1: was in a movie crushed it, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course he did the story yesterday. He was that
Speaker 1: aer Donald almost ended our Alex Smith. I don't know
Speaker 1: if his second or third play, but you know, Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins not only gets benched, he's inactive, and so Kyle
Speaker 1: Allen gets banged up, and I go, they they can't
Speaker 1: put it in Alex Smith, Like I thought, maybe you
Speaker 1: have an emergency wide receiver who played quarterback in high school,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he comes on the field
Speaker 1: and they go to commercial and goal. No, don't go
Speaker 1: to commercial. I just want to see him walk in
Speaker 1: or run in or walk you know, warm up. And
Speaker 1: then his family gave him standing ovation, his wife and
Speaker 1: their three kids, and then he throws that little you know,
Speaker 1: passing the flat, and I go, ok okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: don't do anything else, just hand the ball off. Like
Speaker 1: I thought I was watching my son. I thought I
Speaker 1: was watching somebody in my family. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden Aaron Donald is, you know, doing a piggyback
Speaker 1: ride on him, And I go, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is a guy who you know, he nearly lost his life,
Speaker 1: nearly lost his leg, and here he is out there
Speaker 1: playing like anybody else for a comeback player of the year.
Speaker 1: Like what else could somebody do for comeback player of
Speaker 1: the year? Like if Dak Prescott somehow came back at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, that would be, you know,
Speaker 1: something that might come close to this. Yeah, it's such
Speaker 1: a great story when Alex Smith came back in yesterday.
Speaker 1: But as soon as he's in, it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: give him a snap and then get him out of there,
Speaker 1: because it was very tough to watch. And that's like
Speaker 1: the Rams defensive lineman. They should have just taken a
Speaker 1: few plays off and let him me he's in, just
Speaker 1: to be gentlemen. Oh yeah, Aaron Donald was not going
Speaker 1: to do that. What else do you have? McLevin? Is
Speaker 1: it panic time in Kansas City? No? But but I
Speaker 1: did notice something yesterday. I thought Patrick Mahomes looked rattled
Speaker 1: and I had not seen that in a long time.
Speaker 1: The Raiders play great, they did and handed it to him,
Speaker 1: But you know, he's twenty two or forty three, and
Speaker 1: I saw something different with Patrick Mahomes. I you know,
Speaker 1: it's not, hey, now, let's panic here. He just got
Speaker 1: outplayed and you're gonna have these games. They're not going undefeated, obviously,
Speaker 1: but Mahomes looked a little rattled yesterday and not seen that.
Speaker 1: He looked uncomfortable the Niners with Jimmy Garoppolo, Like, that's
Speaker 1: just something to keep an eye on the entire season,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if he was benched, benched or
Speaker 1: just benched because he's still battling an injury. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure when they brought in C. J. Beathard. I'm
Speaker 1: not sold on Garoppolo. I don't think he's a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: But you got smoked by the Miami Dolphins. Where were
Speaker 1: the Dolphins last week? With my bet that they would
Speaker 1: beat the Seattle Seahawks at home? That was a surprising
Speaker 1: outcome there. Yes, I love him here, but I really
Speaker 1: want to do it. It's totally aside from all the
Speaker 1: huge stories. Boy do we love or just like all
Speaker 1: this scoring in college football it is? I love it. Well.
Speaker 1: I can't blame big twelve defenses anymore. Because it used
Speaker 1: to be Big twelve. They don't play any defense. The
Speaker 1: SEC's not playing any defense. Alabama gave up forty eight
Speaker 1: and one. LSU ls, you couldn't stop Missouri. I came
Speaker 1: in on a Monday morning and said I felt sorry
Speaker 1: for Missouri football when they played in Alabama, Like I
Speaker 1: truly felt sorry watching a team play and they beat LSU.
Speaker 1: That phrase, and everyone said LSU couldn't stop Missouri. You
Speaker 1: were just the first person on earth to say it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, I'll get to your phone calls.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of things to dive into. Edward
Speaker 1: Er covers the Cowboys will join us coming up. The terrible,
Speaker 1: devastating injury with Dak Prescott. What that means for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys moving forward. I have to apologize to an NFL,
Speaker 1: although mclovin says they don't deserve my apology, but I
Speaker 1: will still apologize to them. Coming up, and we'll get
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Speaker 1: at the NBA odds already out for next season. Your
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers are the favorites, followed by the LA Clippers,
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks, Golden State Warriors, Brooklyn Nets, Boston Celtics, Miami Heat,
Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors. But the Lakers are the overwhelming favorites, followed
Speaker 1: by the Clippers, Bucks, and the Golden State Warriors. I'm
Speaker 1: curious what Golden State is going to do in the
Speaker 1: draft because they have the second pick overall. And if
Speaker 1: you get somebody as that person going to be able
Speaker 1: to contribute. If you have Draymond Green, you have Steph
Speaker 1: and you have Clay, what else are you going to do?
Speaker 1: You know, James Wiseman, the big man. You know that
Speaker 1: a Memphis played what eleven games or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know is that somebody that you want to add
Speaker 1: what kind of missing ingredient there for Golden State? Where
Speaker 1: I guess we're not sure about Golden State, but we should.
Speaker 1: We should be sure about Golden State if Clay Thompson's
Speaker 1: going to be healthy. I'm surprised that they're not above
Speaker 1: the Clippers as the second favorite to win the title. Yes, point,
Speaker 1: if you're Golden State, do you want a young nineteen
Speaker 1: year old to develop for the next four years or
Speaker 1: do you want to trade that for I don't know what,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like that's gold States plans to
Speaker 1: have a nineteen year old. This is not the year
Speaker 1: to have the first or second can pick overall, and
Speaker 1: Minnesota has the number one pick overall. If you say,
Speaker 1: you know, LaMelo ball is one of the top three players,
Speaker 1: I'm not too excited about that. I do think that
Speaker 1: he will be better than his brothers. He'll be better
Speaker 1: than Lonzo, and I do like Lonzo's game, you know,
Speaker 1: except that you can't shoot. But LaMelo is not a
Speaker 1: great shooter either. But he does have a lot of talent,
Speaker 1: you know, for his dad, who was there holding the
Speaker 1: ladder for James Naysmith. You know, when he was putting
Speaker 1: up the first peach basket, you would have thought he
Speaker 1: taught his kids how to shoot. The one who can
Speaker 1: shoot is the one who can't play in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Lo Angelo, he can actually shoot, He just can't play,
Speaker 1: and I have to apologize. I'm going to apologize to
Speaker 1: an NFL team coming up. Let me get to Mannox though. Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, Mannox was a trending last night because
Speaker 1: he had a freezing cold. Tip of this a great
Speaker 1: way to welcome Mannox in. Chris Mannock, senior NBA writer
Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated most recent column, there will always be
Speaker 1: a goat debate, but Lebron has made a compelling case
Speaker 1: that they're show be Before we get to Chris Mannis, Mannis,
Speaker 1: back September twenty seventh of last year, said the following
Speaker 1: about the Lakers on this show. Yeah. I get killed
Speaker 1: every year talking about the Lakers with you because I
Speaker 1: tend to be more skeptical as I was last season.
Speaker 1: But is it not more likely that the Lakers missed
Speaker 1: the playoffs than the championship? I think that wait this year,
Speaker 1: right now, this year, so the odds are better that
Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs than they win the championship, I
Speaker 1: would say so yet Wow, okay, all right, so at
Speaker 1: the time, why did you feel that way? Well, the Lakers,
Speaker 1: despite adding Anthony Davis, were a team with myriad questions
Speaker 1: whether there was the head coach or a patchwork roster.
Speaker 1: And look, I've been forced to eat some version of
Speaker 1: that clip for the better part of the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Dan, But to those Laker fans out there,
Speaker 1: I'd like to congratulate you on all the times you
Speaker 1: tweeted and talked about and wrote about how frightened Vogel
Speaker 1: was the guy that he was the man that was
Speaker 1: going to lead you to a championship. I would like
Speaker 1: salute you for believing in Dwight Howard after all these
Speaker 1: years and all these teams. I would like to applaud
Speaker 1: you for saying that Ron Jean Rondo for a disappointing
Speaker 1: first year with the Lakers and by the way, nearly
Speaker 1: being replaced in February by Darren Collison. People forget a
Speaker 1: little bit about that. For believing that Rajon Rondo would
Speaker 1: be a difference maker of equal Bravo Laker fans, You
Speaker 1: you are no stra Damn Damas predicting all this stuff,
Speaker 1: So you stand by your comments from September. I think
Speaker 1: it was September, and they were they. I believe it
Speaker 1: was like the second week in July, Dan, or the
Speaker 1: first week in July, while the Lakers were still trying
Speaker 1: to wait out Kawhi Leonard, when they had unofficially three
Speaker 1: players on the roster, when it was Anthony Davis, Lebron James,
Speaker 1: and Kyle kuz Well. You we both know that winning
Speaker 1: a championship is more than just top level talents. Now,
Speaker 1: all the Laker moves that they made that Rob Polinka made,
Speaker 1: they worked out brilliantly. But do not anyone sit here
Speaker 1: and tell me that you were sure about any of
Speaker 1: these patchwork decisions in September or even October. Who deserves
Speaker 1: the most credit for the Lakers as champions this year?
Speaker 1: You always got to start with Lebron, and not just
Speaker 1: because of the numbers and the performance on the floor,
Speaker 1: but you heard several Laker players. You heard Rob Polinka
Speaker 1: allude to this last night that lebronership in the bubble
Speaker 1: was invaluable, And I guess you can even perceive that
Speaker 1: his leadership and kind of patching this team together early
Speaker 1: on and making it a cohesive unit was big. And
Speaker 1: then you get down to the bubble and all the
Speaker 1: trib ying circumstances. To have a leader like Lebron James
Speaker 1: in that mix, I don't think you could put it,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think you can calculate exactly how
Speaker 1: much that's worked. So not only was he producing at
Speaker 1: an extremely high level, a ridiculously high level for a
Speaker 1: player his age at this stage of his career, but
Speaker 1: what he did off the court was clearly influential with
Speaker 1: to the Laker success. I'm trying to find the negative
Speaker 1: today because somebody's going to find the negative with Lebron,
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if they were going to say, well,
Speaker 1: it was an easier road in the bubble, which I
Speaker 1: don't believe, or Lebron after the game saying I want
Speaker 1: my damn respect. Like, I'm just trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: So help me understand how us talking heads are going
Speaker 1: to spin this a different way from Lebron James in
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I don't know how you do that. Like,
Speaker 1: it's not bron Vaults that the Clippers fizzled out in
Speaker 1: the second round. It's not Bronze fault that the Bucks
Speaker 1: didn't hold up their end of the bargain in getting
Speaker 1: to the finals. This isn't boxing. You play who's in
Speaker 1: front of you. You don't get to choose who your
Speaker 1: opponents are. And the Lakers did that, and you know,
Speaker 1: gentlemen swept their way through the Western Conference finals and
Speaker 1: you know, needing six games to get rid of Miami.
Speaker 1: So I don't look at the schedule as as you
Speaker 1: can't look at that as a negative. You can't you
Speaker 1: pin that on Lebron James. And look, Dan I wrote
Speaker 1: last night, nothing will ever top what Lebron accomplished in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I mean that will always be the pinnacle of his career,
Speaker 1: not just because he brought a championship to Cleveland, but
Speaker 1: the circumstances in which he did it, to come back
Speaker 1: from three one down against the quote greatest team in
Speaker 1: NBA history, at least in the regular season, that will
Speaker 1: always be number one. This to me is number two.
Speaker 1: Like this right here, what he did in this season
Speaker 1: with this group, in this bubble, in this harsh environment,
Speaker 1: and it was a harsh environment. It's not he plays
Speaker 1: to go and win a championship. What he did there,
Speaker 1: This will rank as the second most significant team accomplishments
Speaker 1: in Lebron James's career, and anyone that tells you otherwise
Speaker 1: just has some kind of bone depict with Lebron James.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Chris Mannock's senior NBA writer for Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 1: His most recent column, there will always be a goat debate,
Speaker 1: but Lebron James has made a compelling case that there
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. On James and other final masterpiece. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into the greatest of all time
Speaker 1: because nobody ever changes their opinion. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: around somebody where you have a discussion about this and
Speaker 1: they go, oh, you know what? On second, It's like politics.
Speaker 1: People just don't change their mind. People are firmly entrenched
Speaker 1: in this. I always just caution people appreciate what you're
Speaker 1: seeing because you will not see this. He doesn't miss
Speaker 1: playoff games. He wins. He has hit more clutch shots
Speaker 1: than anybody in the playoffs in history. He doesn't miss games.
Speaker 1: He plays hard. He's averaging a triple double at his age.
Speaker 1: With what he's done, he's the great longevity wise, he's
Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time. In my opinion, and
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Kareem you can make that argument, but
Speaker 1: we you know, we try to fit him into a
Speaker 1: square peg and he's a round hole. You know. It's
Speaker 1: just he's not Michael, never be. And I just I
Speaker 1: don't know why I have to defend him, because but
Speaker 1: it feels like they're just people out there who are
Speaker 1: never going to let him in that select group, that
Speaker 1: that fraternity for some reason. Why is that? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone kind of gets into their silos, right when it
Speaker 1: comes to this debate, whether it's Jordan Lebron, a few
Speaker 1: people on the outside that might say Kareem or Wilt
Speaker 1: or even Bill Russell into that mix. You're right, you
Speaker 1: don't change opinions in any of these types of debates.
Speaker 1: You can point out that Jordan lost multiple times in
Speaker 1: the first round, people don't care. They always point back
Speaker 1: to Lebron's finals record and say that's proof that he's
Speaker 1: not on Jordan's level. But I'm with you. For longevity
Speaker 1: to be in his two hundred and sixtieth NBA playoff game,
Speaker 1: to post his twenty eighth triple double, to do it
Speaker 1: while being the best player on the floor in his
Speaker 1: seventeenth season, his age thirty five season. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you can come up with to dispute that. And
Speaker 1: what I wrote last night, Dan was even if you
Speaker 1: can say, if you want to say the Lebron is
Speaker 1: not the greatest of all time, there's probably gonna come
Speaker 1: a point in Lebron's career where you can't say that
Speaker 1: because Lebron is not close to done. I mean the Lakers,
Speaker 1: They're gonna enter next season, assuming Anthony Davis resigns as
Speaker 1: a co favorite at worst to win a championship. Then
Speaker 1: you go ahead, Dan, to the summer of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and if the Lakers keep their books as tight as
Speaker 1: they are right now, they're gonna have like thirty million
Speaker 1: plus in cap space to go and recruit either another
Speaker 1: Max level player or a bunch of different players to
Speaker 1: fill in the holes around Lebron and Anthony Davis. So
Speaker 1: you can say four championships doesn't equal six, but Lebron
Speaker 1: may not just get there. He may eclipse that number
Speaker 1: for his career is suddenly done. And the Miami Heat.
Speaker 1: I loved watching them during the regular season. I love
Speaker 1: the way they played. I have newfound respect for Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler because I didn't think he was a superstar. I
Speaker 1: thought he was a very good player, and he got
Speaker 1: a bunch of younger players to listen to him, and
Speaker 1: the other places, the other stops. That's why I think
Speaker 1: he got frustrated. I think we looked at Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: as the problem. And you know that's on me because
Speaker 1: I found out then he wants you to be great,
Speaker 1: and he demanded a lot. And those younger players, God,
Speaker 1: they played hard. And I can't say enough about what
Speaker 1: Riley and Spolstra did for the Miami Heat this year
Speaker 1: and putting that and keeping it together. Jimmy Butler and
Speaker 1: Miami were quite literally the perfect fit. You had an
Speaker 1: uber competitive player who held everyone around him to the
Speaker 1: highest of standard, joining a team with a coach and
Speaker 1: a president that had the exact same mindset. Not to
Speaker 1: say that Jimmy couldn't have accomplished this in Philadelphia. I
Speaker 1: think one of the great offseason gaps of this century
Speaker 1: will be that the seventy six ers didn't make Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler a blindket five five year max level contract. Puffer
Speaker 1: will go down probably is one of the bigger mistakes
Speaker 1: that we've seen in recent memory. But this was an
Speaker 1: ideal fit between player and team and a roster that
Speaker 1: was open to being held as accountable as Butler wanted
Speaker 1: to hold him to account to. And the Heat are
Speaker 1: going to go into next year in a similar position
Speaker 1: as the Lakers. They'll probably bring back or On Drogic
Speaker 1: on a short term deal, a big money deal, and
Speaker 1: then they Dan, like the Lakers are going to be
Speaker 1: in a position in twenty twenty one to dangle that
Speaker 1: MAX contract in front of Janis or whoever else might
Speaker 1: be out there on the open market. And you can't
Speaker 1: tell me, Dan that the greatest audition that the Heat
Speaker 1: could have given for Yannis tend to Coompo was how
Speaker 1: they proceeded these playoffs. They showed Jannis on TV every night,
Speaker 1: in front of him in that second round, that they
Speaker 1: were a winning organization. They already had South Beach, they
Speaker 1: already had pat Riley his championship rings. But they showed
Speaker 1: Jannis that they could win with this group. They could win.
Speaker 1: They could say them, imagine what we can do if
Speaker 1: you join this team in a your plus, when's the
Speaker 1: next season start? At this point, I've long believed Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King Dave was the earliest date. We might even
Speaker 1: see this bleed into February. You know, in talking to
Speaker 1: a few executives about this late last night, nobody really
Speaker 1: has any idea. Like they're playing it week to week.
Speaker 1: They know that Adam Silver wants to get fans back
Speaker 1: in the building and if it means pushing the season
Speaker 1: a little bit further into the fall or the winter
Speaker 1: rather they Silver might be willing to do that if
Speaker 1: it means they can get X number of games, all
Speaker 1: in buildings, all with fans. I think that is the
Speaker 1: top priority right now. But I would not expect teams
Speaker 1: to be back into training camp before January, and at
Speaker 1: this point it might be early to mid February before
Speaker 1: we see an NBA season start. Thanks for all your
Speaker 1: contributions this year, certainly from inside the bubble and outside,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Chris, Bye,
Speaker 1: Lakers fans. Chris Mannox He's not going down without a fight. There.
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Speaker 1: dp show. Yeah, there was a lot of great football
Speaker 1: over the weekend, a couple of surprises in there. Certainly
Speaker 1: Missouri and LSU old miss go on toe to toe
Speaker 1: with Alabama was a whole lot of fun as well.
Speaker 1: I have to apologize to a fan base for an
Speaker 1: NFL team. The Carolina Panthers are three and two, and
Speaker 1: I thought they mightn't be in the running for Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence and the number one overall pick. I love Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: You don't have Christa McCaffrey, you have Greg Olsen who's
Speaker 1: now in Seattle. You have defensive players Luke Keekley retired,
Speaker 1: and somehow Matt Rule's done a great job and they're
Speaker 1: three and two on the in or so, my apologies
Speaker 1: to the Carolina fan base. There. McLevin says, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be apologizing, but they got three wins. If you would
Speaker 1: have said total three wins for Carolina, I would have
Speaker 1: say maybe. And they have three wins after five games.
Speaker 1: You can't go, well, they haven't played anybody like look
Speaker 1: at the Jets and Giants oh and ten in a stadium.
Speaker 1: They are oh and ten combined Atlanta Falcons. They haven't
Speaker 1: won a game either. Caroline has won three. You'll take him, however,
Speaker 1: you can get them no matter who you're playing. Yes,
Speaker 1: me Club, Okay, the one in three Chargers, the three
Speaker 1: and two Cardinals and the O and five Falcons and
Speaker 1: the three and two Cardinals are they're a little scary,
Speaker 1: they're a little iffy, okay, but Carolina is not getting
Speaker 1: blown out. Yeah, I mean they come on. So you're
Speaker 1: saying they're screwing it up, Well, they screwed it up.
Speaker 1: They should have beat the Raiders. You had McCaffrey on
Speaker 1: the fourth down. They don't even give them the ball.
Speaker 1: They give it to a fullback who's had as many
Speaker 1: carries as I've had, and then they end up getting
Speaker 1: stopped there. And they could have beat the Raiders as well. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Club, I'll say so you don't get in trouble
Speaker 1: with Jaguars fans. They really screwed up that Week one
Speaker 1: victory over the Cults because they really look bad fast
Speaker 1: losing to Houston this week. Yeah, I think that was
Speaker 1: one of those where maybe they went management went, what
Speaker 1: are we doing like we're looking too good here? How
Speaker 1: do we get Trevor Lawrence? If these guys keep playing
Speaker 1: hard out there? Yes, Paul, this might be a new segment.
Speaker 1: Who's screwing it up? Because the Dolphins screwed up bringing
Speaker 1: in Tua by dominating the forty nine ers with Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: There's no way they could bench Fitzpatrick and the next
Speaker 1: game is I think the Dolphins had the Jets the
Speaker 1: next game, which went in a perfect start for twa
Speaker 1: don't they have the Jets and then a bye week
Speaker 1: and then the Jets. I think they had to change
Speaker 1: that around because of illnesses, but they got Jets bye week. Rams.
Speaker 1: I can't keep track of the NFL schedule. I just said, Wait,
Speaker 1: Patriots aren't playing, so when are they going to reschedule
Speaker 1: that game with Denver? Wait? So Buffalo is playing Tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: but then Buffalo in Kansas City won't play Thurs Thursday night.
Speaker 1: There's a Tuesday night game and though Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: Welcome to twenty twenty in the NFL. All right, some
Speaker 1: phone calls here. Dennis in Wales leads us off, Good
Speaker 1: morning Dennis, how are you? Good morning DP? Thanks for
Speaker 1: taking my call. I've got a couple of bests, the
Speaker 1: worst and a comment at the end. Lewis Hamilton ninety
Speaker 1: second win of a Formula One race and was handed
Speaker 1: helmet by Michael Schumacher's son. Tremendous achievement for him. But
Speaker 1: the best, obviously is the win by the Lakers. The
Speaker 1: worst is the loss by the Heat. Having worked with
Speaker 1: that group since nineteen eighty eight nineteen ninety one there
Speaker 1: over the first two seasons, what I love about that
Speaker 1: organization is how well they take care of each other.
Speaker 1: I mean, Eric Spoelstra was a video guy. He's now
Speaker 1: running the team for the last twelve years. Ronnie Rothstein,
Speaker 1: who had those first two horrible seasons thirty one wins
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty one losses, was a defensive assistant
Speaker 1: head coach for years and years and years. Even the
Speaker 1: man that runs non basketball operations, Andy Eluxburg, he was
Speaker 1: a pr turn from Saint Thomas University who was carrying
Speaker 1: computer terminals in and out of the back room with
Speaker 1: the rest of us. They really take care of the
Speaker 1: nurture people and grow them. So it's a fabulous organization.
Speaker 1: I'm really sad to see them lose. I'm really happy
Speaker 1: to see the Lakers win. I couldn't lose yesterday. But
Speaker 1: it was really a tremendous effort by two great organizations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, and thank you Dennis. And it starts from
Speaker 1: the top down. Frank Vogel is not asking for credit.
Speaker 1: He probably won't get as much credit as he deserves.
Speaker 1: He was basically brought in as a steadying influence there.
Speaker 1: There's no drama here. Let's just get this team back
Speaker 1: playing team basketball, play defense as well. And Frank Vogel
Speaker 1: did a great job. He did what he was supposed
Speaker 1: to do. It was an awkward moment where a reporter says,
Speaker 1: why do you think you were the right guy for
Speaker 1: the job, Like, how do you answer that? I guess
Speaker 1: your answer is, Look, i'd rather others said whatever I
Speaker 1: brought to the table here, but you know that's not
Speaker 1: up to me to say, this is why this team
Speaker 1: ended up winning a championship. Here Lebron. If Lebron is
Speaker 1: going to get critiqued at all today, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get critiqued because he said the following after the
Speaker 1: game that means allowed to represent this franchise. I told
Speaker 1: Jennie when I came here that I was gonna put
Speaker 1: this franchise back in a position where it belongs. Her
Speaker 1: late great father did it for so many years, and
Speaker 1: she just took it on after that. And for me
Speaker 1: to be a part of such a historical franchise as
Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable feeling, not only for myself, but for
Speaker 1: my teammates, for the organization, for the coaches, for the trainers,
Speaker 1: everybody that's here. We just want our respect. Rob wants
Speaker 1: his respect. Coach Vogel wonners respect our organization. Won't they
Speaker 1: respect Laker Nation? Won't they respect? And I want my
Speaker 1: damn respect too. That was the only part when he
Speaker 1: said I want my damn respect. That's when I think
Speaker 1: the Lebron haters are going to come out and say,
Speaker 1: you know, why not make it about the team, or
Speaker 1: you didn't mention Kobe Like they're gonna look for something
Speaker 1: here and they shouldn't because Lebron is saying, look, I
Speaker 1: do want my respect. I was surprised that he said it,
Speaker 1: because you don't ask for respect, and if you don't,
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody's not giving it to you, then
Speaker 1: you're never going to get their respect. Like You're never
Speaker 1: going to get Paul Pierce's respect. You're just not so
Speaker 1: if you ask for it, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: didn't like Lebron saying I want my damn respect because
Speaker 1: you're looking at what the Lakers did. You're getting respect,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing better than doing something and people who
Speaker 1: don't want you to succeed, and then you succeed, then
Speaker 1: you just smile because they don't. They're not going to
Speaker 1: give you their respect, you know. And if you're going
Speaker 1: to critique me, critique me for winning, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: Gus and Los Angeles, Hey, Gus, good morning is the DP?
Speaker 1: How are you, beautiful day? I am six foot one,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds of the clicko right now,
Speaker 1: nice and thank god I do not work with heavy
Speaker 1: machinery right now. But let me tell you something. I've
Speaker 1: been honored and privilege to be a call of yours
Speaker 1: since about twenty thirteen, and I believe that was like
Speaker 1: the beginning of the timeline of the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1: You know, I've called you from like horrible management decisions,
Speaker 1: Linda Rambis, I think I called you once about and
Speaker 1: here we are, and ironically we can't even celebrate even
Speaker 1: though there are thousands of vidiots last night at the
Speaker 1: Saple Center. You know this is a This arguably has
Speaker 1: to be the most meaningful, most special championship in the
Speaker 1: historic franchise that is the Lakers. It was the most
Speaker 1: difficult and everything, and dare I say Kobe's greatest last
Speaker 1: act as a Laker wasn't a fifth And thank you Gus. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: get some sleep. More phone calls coming up. Best and
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend. We will check in with the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys after the injury to Dak Prescott back after
Speaker 1: this and the Dan Patrick Show.