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Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea, how are you Hi.

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Speaker 2: I'm just slowly recuperating from my shoulder invasion. Basically my

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Speaker 2: day consists of waking up, getting into a hyperbaric chamber

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Speaker 2: fifteen times a day. Do I sound like I'm complaining

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Speaker 2: because I am.

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Speaker 1: I mean fucking complaining, like shit.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some days I feel really good and then I

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, I really overdid it. I was like feeling

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Speaker 2: really good. My doctor took out my stitches. I went

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Speaker 2: to pete. Then I went for lunch, and then I

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Speaker 2: went for a walk, and then I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: at this dinner party and like thirty minutes into it,

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Speaker 2: I was like I was in pain agony. I'm like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: I fucked something up. But I just overdid it. I

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Speaker 2: always overdo it. Yeah, gotta rest, gotta rest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then I have a nice little nurse that comes

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Speaker 2: to my house every night and puts gives me an

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a lot. It is I feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm in a nursing home.

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Speaker 1: Your own home is a musing home.

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Speaker 4: Now, well, I have a response from one of our episodes,

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Speaker 4: and then we have a quick caller.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, let's do it. So I just thought this

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Speaker 1: was a cute email.

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Speaker 4: Margie says, just listening to your show with Hunter McGrady,

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Speaker 4: and I think everyone spoke about having a piece of

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Speaker 4: pencil lead graphite stuck in their skin.

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Speaker 1: Did you have one as well? Now my sister did. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Brad definitely does.

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Speaker 4: I just so happened to have watched an episode of

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Speaker 4: Doctor Pimple Popper and there was a woman on her

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Speaker 4: show what a piece of pencil in her hand for

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Speaker 4: forty plus years?

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Speaker 1: Apparently, I'm guessing it's gone now. It was amazing. Check

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Speaker 1: it out. Are you into that stuff like the Doctor

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Speaker 1: pimple Popper stuff? I don't like that. I can't watch

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Speaker 1: that now I've seen it. I know what you're talking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but this was the part I thought was very nice.

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Speaker 4: Margie says, keep doing what you're doing. It has changed

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Speaker 4: my life perspective about myself and how I relate to

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Speaker 4: the world. Listening to you speak truth and strength with

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Speaker 4: no apologies about your place on this planet as a

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Speaker 4: woman is infectious.

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Speaker 1: No more making myself smaller.

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Speaker 4: I've always felt that I was actually six feet tall

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Speaker 4: and ripped stuck in my petite five foot one inch frame.

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Speaker 4: Now I know I am, and I'm gonna love my truth.

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Speaker 4: Keep kicking ass, Marquie, Is.

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Speaker 1: This what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: She got a pencil removed because of our episode?

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Speaker 1: Is this what she's talking about?

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Speaker 4: No, I think she's just inspired by you, like just

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Speaker 2: Oh well great, Yes, yes, live out loud.

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Speaker 4: Everybody live out loud, and we have some callers.

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Speaker 1: That's why we have a couple calling in.

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Speaker 4: Oh, a couple that I mess that you met at

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Speaker 4: the Chelsea when you were performing at the.

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Speaker 2: Cosmo My Vegas residency. Everybody, My next date is March

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Speaker 2: twenty first.

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Speaker 4: While they're Brad and Leslie, and Leslie is actually the.

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Speaker 1: One writing, but both of them will be joining us.

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Speaker 4: So she says, Hey, Chelsea, I'm Leslie and my husband

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Speaker 4: Brad and I met you recently when you performed at

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Speaker 4: the Chelsea in Las Vegas. We got to say high

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Speaker 4: after the show. I'm a second generation Plates instructor, meaning

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Speaker 4: my teacher studied directly with Joe Plates. I've been teaching

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Speaker 4: since two thousand and eight. I started traveling the world

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Speaker 4: A few years later, he convinced me to start online

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Speaker 4: pilates Classes dot com we just call it OPC, and

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Speaker 4: then join me full time to run the company in

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. For so many years, OPC was me doing

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Speaker 4: my thing. Everything was my responsibility. They were my clients

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Speaker 4: and my problems. I've always answered my own dms, done

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Speaker 4: my own socials, basically all the marketing, and I still do.

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Speaker 4: Internet trolls. I know, you know how that goes. I'm

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Speaker 4: really lucky. I love working with my husband. Brad is

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Speaker 4: an amazing CEO and has built an incredible team. I'll

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Speaker 4: admit that during the first couple of years, going from

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Speaker 4: me and my business to we and our business was tricky.

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Speaker 4: When something wouldn't go as planned. I tended to default

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Speaker 4: but sometimes I still struggle with this, and I know

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Speaker 4: it's frustrating for Brad. How do you lean more on

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Speaker 4: your team so that the business issues, obstacles and trolls

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Speaker 1: Leslie and Brad?

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, Hi, Hi did we meet at the Cosmo?

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Speaker 1: We did? Mean it the Coso? What a great memory.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I think I grabbed your butt too long though for selfie,

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Speaker 5: But oh that's okay.

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Speaker 1: People are always grabbing me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not somebody who takes offense to that, but I

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Speaker 2: would not recommend grabbing other women's butts.

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Speaker 1: I'm made of teflon.

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Speaker 2: So are you guys talking about your dynamic?

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Speaker 1: This sounds like a you question.

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Speaker 2: Catherine, Like you, Katherine, my ex producer has a very

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Speaker 2: similar dynamic with her husband.

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Speaker 1: He's there.

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Speaker 2: He does our sound on our podcast, and she's the

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Speaker 1: Right right.

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Speaker 3: I heard he's got a cool name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he does. His name is also Brad. I'm not

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Speaker 4: So I mean, for us, I think it's really about

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Speaker 4: division of labor because this was your personal Instagram before

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Speaker 4: it was the business Instagram. Correct, yeah, yeah, And it

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Speaker 4: was always me as just the person teaching, and then

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Speaker 5: It's been amazing and wonderful. And I think the hard

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Speaker 5: the business is letting them down. I take it personally,

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Speaker 5: which is not probably not the healthiest thing right right.

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Speaker 4: When you're a business owner, you set up systems for

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Speaker 4: And I think that that maybe is like part of

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Speaker 4: what's difficult here. Tell me, Brad, when you read stuff

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Speaker 4: when you read stuff that's about Leslie, does that.

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Speaker 1: Still feel like a personal attack? Does it get to

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Speaker 3: Oh? Sometimes one time we had somebody, particularly you know,

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Speaker 1: What did they say? I mean about pilates?

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Speaker 1: I didn't even get specific.

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Speaker 5: And someone's like, so you were with censorship then, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really have to like have a little bit

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Speaker 2: Like that's just not that's not part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: Because these people have nothing to do.

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Speaker 2: They're sitting at home writing negative comments on people's Instagram.

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Speaker 2: to practice not giving a shit about what people are

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Because for example, like when we do these episodes

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Speaker 4: Because you know what you like and you know how

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just you know, you have to be successful,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you don't have to read mean things about

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Speaker 5: We joke that, Like I love my YouTube because the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really important to remember that. Like

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Speaker 5: Yeah that when that, I think, I'm going to keep

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Speaker 1: What would a leader do?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just gets you out of the actual feeling

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Speaker 1: So I'm so grateful.

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Speaker 5: This is really fun.

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Speaker 5: And I think this is a way to think about

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Speaker 1: Great. Thanks for calling in guys. Thank you, they're very sweet. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's like now nowadays, like normal people have

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Speaker 2: Like maybe more of the reasons to just completely block

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a waste of time.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, imagine sitting in front of the mirror and being like,

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Speaker 2: you're ugly, You're ugly.

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Speaker 1: You're ugly to yourself for fifteen minutes a day. That's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been hearing this phrase around, but that's like, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to like take that on my half,

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Speaker 1: you know. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, okay minisodes, this is our minisod many

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