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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, and here we go where Colin

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Speaker 2: was right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been saying for weeks the Eagles are tempting faith.

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Speaker 2: It's not right.

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Speaker 1: Saquon's falling off a cliff. You keep telling me Nick

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Speaker 1: Sirianni's a great coach, but the Philadelphia Eagles, something isn't working,

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Speaker 1: and to have twenty four straight unanswered points against a

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Speaker 1: rival is completely, absolutely unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: But don't tell me everything is fine and we'll just

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Speaker 1: keep figuring it out. Because I saw two years ago

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Speaker 1: a really good Eagles team circle the drain.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was rowed.

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Speaker 1: I thought Chip Kelly was a solid choice, lots of

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Speaker 1: experience to be an offensive coordinator for Pete Carroll College

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Speaker 1: and pro. The run game absolutely nonexistent, now the old

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Speaker 1: line not very good, but the Raiders continue to look

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Speaker 1: backwards through the rearview mirror, Chip and Pete Carroll and

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith.

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Speaker 2: And I was wrong where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be mean, but the JJ McCarthy thing,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's even a backup. Three turnovers

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Speaker 1: and four yards in the second half. You could watch

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Speaker 1: how Green Bay was coaching. You could tell look at

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Speaker 1: their game plan green Bay, It's like, we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: run it. We don't need to take any big swings here.

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Speaker 1: So the second half against Green Bay is I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't just throw when you have all day and

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Speaker 1: trailing to a very good team and a very good defense.

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Speaker 1: Everybody kept telling me this is the guy you got

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Speaker 2: I said, I don't see it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I think I was right on that where Colin was

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Speaker 1: raw four years in. I'm not sure what USC is,

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Speaker 1: defense is below average and the special teams are a wreck.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the reality is and the offense.

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Speaker 1: Now feels like basically Malik Malachai Lemon, McKay Lemon. It's

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Speaker 1: down to walk ons on the offensive line. They did

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Speaker 1: not recruit Southern California well enough the first three years.

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Speaker 1: They spent a lot of money on nil and not

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Speaker 1: all of it. Well, I don't know. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're close. When you have twenty seven carries and run

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Speaker 2: Ho's wrong where Colin was right once.

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Speaker 1: Again, I said, Pittsburgh, look at their schedule. Steelers will

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Speaker 1: get hot early four and one, and now they're two

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Speaker 1: no longer lead the division. I mean, Baltimore is not

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Speaker 1: even playing well. In a month, They've flown past them.

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Speaker 1: They're not creative, very rarely, very infrequently on offense. They

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Speaker 1: It's twenty eight, right, Now, this defense with the Steelers

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Speaker 1: they're paying all the attention to defense.

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Speaker 2: It's still bad. Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Once again, the Bills are too Josh Allen reliant. Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Brent Venables has been a hit at Oklahoma and he's

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Speaker 1: this is his first head coaching job. That defense is money.

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Speaker 1: I have watched it disassembled Bama and again this weekend.

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Speaker 2: They don't even need an offense. That defense is so good,

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Speaker 1: I just didn't think Venables was going to succeed as

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Speaker 2: And I was wrong where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Brandon Staley, apparently the Niners, the stories. He's on

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Speaker 1: his way out. I never understand. I don't understand Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: his insistence to pay every wide receiver in the building.

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Speaker 1: They paid Debo, they paid Brandon Ayuk. He's rarely been available.

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Speaker 1: this and this relationship is soured, and I never understood

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Speaker 2: He's talented.

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Speaker 1: I'll never deny that with Brandon Ayuk, but I didn't

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: John Moran, NBA reporters love small, poor shooting athletic guards.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, he's never going to grow up. Another embarrassing moment.

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Speaker 1: He's now a bench player, talking trash. Last two years,

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Speaker 1: the Grizzlies are better defensively and offensively when John doesn't play.

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Speaker 1: And he was yapping again, this time to Klay Thompson,

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Speaker 3: He's running his mouth for a long time, and it's

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Speaker 3: funny to run your mouth when you're on the bench.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of the story of his career so far,

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Speaker 3: just leaving us once more. We need that in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: We need our best players will be out there, and

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Speaker 3: when you're a star comes with a great responsibility and

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Speaker 3: I hate to see that called the waste.

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Speaker 1: There is more to being a star in the NBA

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Speaker 1: than having hops. It's about leadership and commitment and dedication

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Speaker 1: and galvanizing egos.

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Speaker 1: NFL has always been to me the sport of hope.

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Speaker 1: It takes a long time to go from a terrible

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Speaker 1: NFL you can be the New England Patriots, like a

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Speaker 1: hazmat spill. You get Drake May, you get Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 1: Josh mcdowne, mccownt and Josh McDaniel. Excuse me, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're the number one seed. It's the sport

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Speaker 1: of hope. You get the head coach, the coordinator, and

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Speaker 1: But it's all centered. College football is about the coach.

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Speaker 1: Pro football is about the quarterback, and we've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of young quarterbacks Thanksgivings tomorrow. They all start Week

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Speaker 1: one in the NFL as rookies at the kids table

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Speaker 1: So J mack, let's determine kids table or adult table

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Speaker 2: All right, Colin, you ready for this? Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Will it be the kids table or the big quarterback table?

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Speaker 1: For Drake Nate, he has already pivoted to the big

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Speaker 1: quarterback table. Listen, He's better than even people who liked

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Speaker 1: him thought. Leaves the NFL in completion percent at a

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Speaker 1: like a top six to seven quarterback today in the league. Durable, big,

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Speaker 4: Kids table or big quarterback table?

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Speaker 2: For Jackson Dart, he's still at the kids table. Jmack.

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Speaker 1: In eight games, he's checked into the blue tent four times.

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Speaker 2: He's already you know.

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Speaker 1: He leads quarterbacks in Russia attempts, which I am a

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Speaker 1: fan of young quarterbacks using their athletic ability and feet

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Speaker 1: He moves well, a lot of confidence. Probably one more

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Speaker 4: All right, well, this one's going to divide the audience.

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Speaker 4: Kids table or Big quarterback table for your guy, Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: He's at the Big Boys Come four and Oho in November.

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Speaker 1: One of three quarterbacks with thirty touchdown passes and ten

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Speaker 1: Ones, Stafford Lamar and your guy Jalen Hurtz. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is troubling.

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Speaker 4: Kids table or Big Quarterback table for Bownicks your other

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Speaker 4: best friend.

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Speaker 2: Come on, adult table. Not even enough.

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Speaker 1: I mean nine total touchdowns in the fourth quarter, ranked

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Speaker 1: winning drive last two seasons, top ten and wins, passing yards,

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, he is okay, he's getting.

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Speaker 4: The leg You're the teaser. You're the teaser. I wish

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Speaker 4: I had in like eleventh grade. By Kid's Table or

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Speaker 4: Big Quarterback Table for Bryce.

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Speaker 1: Young two inconsistent. I'm sorry you watched it Monday. He's

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Speaker 1: shrank in a big spot. I'm sorry. He's a great kid,

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Speaker 2: He doesn't look the part.

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Speaker 1: Ninety or worst passer rating in nine of his eleven starts,

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Speaker 2: He's got a.

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Speaker 1: he entered the league.

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Speaker 2: Kid's table not great. We should probably skip this one,

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Speaker 2: but we'll do it anyway.

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Speaker 4: Kid's Table or Big Quarterback Table for JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Well in the second and third quarters this year, he

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Speaker 1: has a twenty seven passer rating, So I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to be mean kids table. In fact, the other kids,

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Speaker 1: the other kids let him go first and pick Oh

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Speaker 1: he's struggling. Hey, I feel bad for the kid.

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Speaker 2: He's struggling. It's early.

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Speaker 4: He'll he'll turn it around. Kid's Table or Big Quarterback

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Speaker 1: Now. I'm not saying he gets the stuffing last. He's

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Speaker 4: Finally Kid's table or big quarterback table for Sineur.

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Speaker 1: Sanders, neither. We're putting him at a new table, the

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Speaker 2: Led every quarterback is in a high chair news legendary.

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Speaker 1: Hey led the NFL last week yards per attempt?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, coward, it is bag here.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 4: The Chadur, the Chadeur five online is coming after you

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Speaker 5: Boy.

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Speaker 2: Damn, I will say this. He's you know, my rule

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Speaker 1: If your college problem is your NFL problem, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel ran around too much. You watched them in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, does the Legendary table eat before the kids table?

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Speaker 1: Clear advantage to have an offensive coach if you're a rookie, yeh,

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Speaker 4: People are gonna be like, this is your starter next year,

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Speaker 1: if you're a twenty five year old pilot, pilot, surgeons, quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: The two occupations that literally saved lives, and then a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, God makes sense. Another one of my

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Speaker 2: analogies that nailed it. Be sure to catch live editions

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Speaker 5: Even for Colin. It's the Herd.

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Speaker 7: You're on Fox Sports Trader on the iHeartRadio app mmmmmm

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Speaker 7: broadcasting from Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: Most of you, mostly in the Midwest, know that it's coming.

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Speaker 7: We got a little we got a little dust in

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Speaker 7: about former gentle manager of the tamp Bay Buccaneers. Of course,

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Speaker 7: Sports Radio. How were we so wrong about the Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Mark?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, they've just been so inconsistent. It's been

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Speaker 7: Okay, what about the Chiefs. You know, it's like you

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Speaker 7: as a as a play caller, Dan Campbell feels like

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Speaker 7: he calls plays, but he's not offensive coordinator. Right, this

437
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Speaker 7: is a play here at play there, It's not as

438
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Speaker 7: smooth doesn't have the same rhythm.

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Speaker 5: What did you think of yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of feel the same way, Like, you know,

441
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Speaker 6: it's you know, the one thing about Jared Goffin and

442
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Speaker 6: maybe the entire offense is having you know, it's interesting

443
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Speaker 6: you think about it from a defensive standpoint. For an

444
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Speaker 6: offensive standpoint, right, the offensive coordators like three and out

445
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Speaker 6: didn't work out, We'll just punt. The defensive coordinator sits

446
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Speaker 6: there and goes, hey, three and it didn't work. It's well,

447
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Speaker 6: they just scored a touchdown. It's just a completely different

448
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Speaker 6: way to look for the game, right. I think if

449
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Speaker 6: you think of at home, you're like, yeah, I've never

450
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Speaker 6: thought of it that way, like an offen the quarteror

451
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Speaker 6: like if it doesn't work out, he just punted the

452
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Speaker 6: ball and try again. It doesn't work out, you're in trouble.

453
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Speaker 6: And so that's what makes it hard. And I also

454
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Speaker 6: think to your point, Doug, like you want to find

455
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Speaker 6: the rhythm with your quarterback where you're feeling, like we

456
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Speaker 6: just talked about with the floor, feeling the emotions of

457
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Speaker 6: the game, or feeling the offensive guy that he spends

458
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Speaker 6: the entire time on. You know that this is what

459
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Speaker 6: I feel like is the right direction. Detroit, and this

460
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Speaker 6: is that a little bit. Certainly, Ben Johnson's done a

461
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Speaker 6: great job in Chicago put the Bears where they are,

462
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Speaker 6: but this is the coordinator that they desperately lost and

463
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Speaker 6: in desperately miss.

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Speaker 7: Okay, let's go to the night gap. Let's start in

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Speaker 7: the negative. What's wrong with Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I feel like he's just missing grows

467
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Speaker 6: and I know that we're all watching it unfold, but

468
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Speaker 6: just the lack of like the locked in or the

469
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Speaker 6: decision making, and he just looked like he was, you know,

470
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Speaker 6: rushing himself and then quickly explicting the ball out and

471
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Speaker 6: trying to make a play, and just it's affected his accuracy.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think it was the weather at all.

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Speaker 6: This has been something we see with Lamar seem very

474
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Speaker 6: well for him, and therefore, you know he's looking at

475
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Speaker 6: Aaron and his accuracy's really off, almost back to like

476
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Speaker 6: his rookie campaign kind of a feeling where like, what's

477
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Speaker 6: going on with this guy? So I don't have a

478
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Speaker 6: great answer for why Lamar Jackson feels like he's regressed

479
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Speaker 6: based off what he's been able to do in the past,

480
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Speaker 6: But I would say that the main thing is that

481
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Speaker 6: I did. I feel like he's rushing as you're watching

482
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Speaker 6: on the field, like he's like someone's in his year

483
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Speaker 6: saying you got to make the decision, hurry up, make

484
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Speaker 6: a decision. And because of that, I think he's throwing

485
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Speaker 6: the ball, you know, early, and it's throwing off his accuracy.

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Speaker 7: I guess my question is, you know, Greg Roman, they

487
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Speaker 7: thought they had hit a ceiling with Greg Roman's offense,

488
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Speaker 7: and my thought was, like, you want MVP with that offense.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's what it was. But you know,

491
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Speaker 7: you're bringing Monk in and it's a passing based offense.

492
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Speaker 7: He still runs, but it's more, Hey, now he's been

493
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Speaker 7: the league. Now he's a better Now he's a better passer,

494
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Speaker 7: not just a thrower. And I again, and their defense

495
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Speaker 7: isn't you know when they were when they were failing

496
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Speaker 7: in the playoffs previously, the defense was awesome and the offense,

497
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Speaker 7: you know, was allowed to just run the football and

498
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Speaker 7: to be conservative, occasionally take a shot.

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Speaker 5: Is it too much for him to carry the team

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Speaker 5: as a passer.

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Speaker 6: It feels like it right now, right I mean, Mike

502
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Speaker 6: McDonald Obtis is a great defensive Corder has done a

503
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Speaker 6: great job as the head coach down Seattle and getting

504
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Speaker 6: them in position of the postseason, and they missed that

505
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Speaker 6: he was, you know, he's brilliantly smart, and so they

506
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Speaker 6: missed that defensive side of the ball where maybe the

507
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Speaker 6: town's not to the level, and seeing the Ravens before,

508
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Speaker 6: but they were technically on top of everything offensively. The

509
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Speaker 6: frustrating thing for me when I watched the Ravens, and

510
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Speaker 6: I'm sure Ravens stans too, they could have run the

511
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Speaker 6: ball last night like they were running the ball perfectly fine.

512
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Speaker 6: They just couldn't stick with it. But you know, if

513
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Speaker 6: they could just find a way to get back to

514
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Speaker 6: Derrick Henry and giving him the ball twenty plus times

515
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Speaker 6: a game, I think that even if they fall behind

516
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Speaker 6: ten or twelve or thirteen points, I think you still

517
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Speaker 6: want to focus on Derrick Henry getting the ball because that,

518
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Speaker 6: to me is your ticket to finding a way to

519
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Speaker 6: still win the North, which again is wide open. And

520
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Speaker 6: even the Bengals, as hard as it's been to mad

521
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Speaker 6: and in so late, you're only a few games out now,

522
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Speaker 6: you know, and I know we don't have a lot

523
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Speaker 6: of games left, but you know it might be nine

524
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Speaker 6: and eight or eight and nine could win that division,

525
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Speaker 6: which before the season started, Doug, I would have never

526
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Speaker 6: dreamt that with those three teams Pittsburgh obviously, Baltimore and Cincinnati,

527
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Speaker 6: I would have never dreamt it would have been that

528
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Speaker 6: kind of an outcome of where the seasons ended up.

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Speaker 7: Right now, I'm obviously as a coach, I'm even a

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Speaker 7: football fan.

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Speaker 5: You love what Joe Burrows said. And here's here's kind

532
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Speaker 5: of my takeaway, Mark, just stick with me. Let me

533
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Speaker 5: kind of explain it.

534
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Speaker 7: Were so critical of athletes when it's load management or

535
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Speaker 7: when they shut it down, you know, late in the

536
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Speaker 7: college football season, late in the NFL season, and yet

537
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Speaker 7: our generation, you and I were kind of the ones

538
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Speaker 7: that came up with this idea of load management or

539
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Speaker 7: protecting the asset that is the player in college, in

540
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Speaker 7: the pros or whatever. So if anything, we got to

541
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Speaker 7: be self critical and understand that, you know, gen X

542
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Speaker 7: is being critical of gen Z for an idea, for

543
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Speaker 7: an idea and a plan that is really a gen

544
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Speaker 7: X plan. That being that being said, what does it say,

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Speaker 7: What does Joe Burrow playing despite the very very slight

546
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Speaker 7: chance of making the playoffs say about Burrow and and

547
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Speaker 7: how we view him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you I'm sure as we watched

549
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Speaker 6: the game last night, we saw the injury history at

550
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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow, and it's it's something that I've talked about

551
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Speaker 6: multiple times over the years that that's just a sad

552
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Speaker 6: fact of his career, whether it was in college or

553
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Speaker 6: now in the NFL, that he gets banged up a lot.

554
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Speaker 6: And I think for Joe, he wants to prove that

555
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Speaker 6: he can be out there with the guys, and he

556
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Speaker 6: understands every year can be magical and special and you

557
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Speaker 6: just don't know how it's longer you get to play

558
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Speaker 6: this game. It can be taken away from you in

559
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Speaker 6: a blink. And so I love that that he decided

560
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Speaker 6: that he wanted to be out there. And I think

561
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Speaker 6: it also because the Bengals were mathematically still alive, that

562
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Speaker 6: you put him back out there and say, hey, look,

563
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Speaker 6: let's let's see what we can do and would kind

564
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Speaker 6: of spark we can give the team. And even though

565
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Speaker 6: he started a little slow, he's certainly you know, sped

566
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Speaker 6: up and really kind of you know, looks like the

567
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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow that you know could have been the team

568
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Speaker 6: that you know when's the division and we'll see. I

569
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Speaker 6: mean again, we've got only a few We got enough

570
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Speaker 6: games left where you could say, yeah, it would be bizarre,

571
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Speaker 6: but you know, they play each other, They've got to

572
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Speaker 6: play with the opponents. You know, nothing's going apart for

573
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Speaker 6: any team right now in the North. It's a stretch.

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Speaker 6: But it was fun to watch him be out there

575
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Speaker 6: and show that. You know, as a leader, he's going

576
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Speaker 6: to if he can be there, he'll be there.

577
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Speaker 7: Okay, help me out, I need the absolute neutral former

578
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Speaker 7: general manager, former player personnel guy, your opinion on Shudor Sanders.

579
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Speaker 5: How did he play in his first week as a starter.

580
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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I you know, you got to give

581
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Speaker 6: him credit for at least you know, I know you

582
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Speaker 6: make the half back pass and you know you got

583
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Speaker 6: to let the running backs. You know, Scamper's in for

584
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Speaker 6: a long touchdown and so he gets stats to that.

585
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Speaker 6: But he still has to get the ball his hand

586
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Speaker 6: to put in the right spot. You know, he made

587
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Speaker 6: the one throw it down the field. But overall, I

588
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 6: still felt like the game was uber fast for him.

589
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Speaker 6: I don't feel like it's and I would have him

590
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Speaker 6: the start of this week. I would either get three

591
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Speaker 6: or four starts unless he failed desperately or terribly, I

592
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Speaker 6: should say, you know, I would go ahead and get

593
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Speaker 6: a sense because really where the Browns sit as an

594
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 6: organization is who's the number two? It's really going to

595
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Speaker 6: be the number two. Is shouduor good enough to be

596
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Speaker 6: a number two? Let's figure that out because there's really

597
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Speaker 6: no number one on this roster. I don't think it's

598
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Speaker 6: either one of these guys based off of what I've

599
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 6: seen from both of them this year, but I would

600
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 6: like to see more should do, but I don't think

601
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Speaker 6: it's going to get better, honestly, Doug. I just I'm

602
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Speaker 6: not a hater on Shadu or anything like that. I

603
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: just feel like the processing's too fast for him, and

604
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 6: he doesn't process it fast enough. And like what he

605
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 6: was able to do in Colorado where the system was

606
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 6: really quick, we can get the ball out. Now things

607
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 6: are everything's moving so much faster. I think it's hard

608
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Speaker 6: for him.

609
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Speaker 5: Is that something that improves with experience?

610
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Speaker 6: Usually it can because the games that quote unquote slows

611
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Speaker 6: down for young players. But to me, the sty I

612
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 6: will play this is why I should do or dropped

613
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Speaker 6: Because a lot of people worried about the system he

614
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 6: played in Colorado that was so quarterback friendly for him specifically,

615
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 6: that can that translate over So a lot of people

616
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Speaker 6: are like, I don't know why, you know, I thought

617
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Speaker 6: it was a first round pick. Well, a lot of

618
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 6: scouts went in there, though, you know, I don't know

619
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Speaker 6: about this office is what we're going to run in

620
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Speaker 6: the NFL, And so therefore do I feel like he's

621
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Speaker 6: got the same tools I can get him to where

622
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 6: he needs to go to the next level, and a

623
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Speaker 6: lot of clips that I don't think so, you know,

624
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Speaker 6: and obviously the other things around you do her. He's

625
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 6: tried to handle those the best he can. But I

626
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Speaker 6: think when you watch it, yes, you're supposed to get

627
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Speaker 6: more time, but to me, I still think you're going

628
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 6: to see a lot of interceptions over the next couple

629
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Speaker 6: of weeks.

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Speaker 5: Okay, same question with JJ McCarthy.

631
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Speaker 6: I think it's fair and I think the same thing

632
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 6: is very frustrating for JJ. Also is that you feel

633
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 6: like he should be able to do it and be

634
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Speaker 6: more of a consistent player, you know, one through four

635
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 6: quarters and not be spurty. And I think that the

636
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 6: same thing though is no matter what I played JJ

637
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 6: the rest of ye as long as he can be

638
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 6: on the football field to find out exactly what I have.

639
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 6: But I got to understand that as an organization, I

640
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: don't have to be married to him. As much as

641
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: that sounds crazy, He's only two years in and this

642
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 6: is really only his first year. You know. The one

643
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 6: mistake you can do is say, well, we'll just give

644
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 6: him one more year and soup we can get just

645
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 6: figured out if the Vikings are in a position where

646
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 6: they could draft another quarterback and say, hey, look we're

647
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 6: to make a competition, but we've got to find that guy.

648
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 6: That's what you have to do, because in the end,

649
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 6: we all know that that's really what matters to the

650
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 6: most is who's pulling the trigger on your football team

651
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 6: at that position. If that need, you have to go

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Speaker 6: back to the well again, go back to the well.

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Speaker 6: Look at Chris Ballard. He's done it basically every year

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Speaker 6: as a coach GM. He's had a different starter out there,

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Speaker 6: and now he may have found the right one at

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones for a while.

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Speaker 5: Mark, you're the best man. I love your analysis.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, I respect all the experience you have, and I

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Speaker 7: hope you had a great Thanksgiving with the family enjoyed

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Speaker 7: this weekend.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to you next week on my show. In

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Speaker 5: the meantime, thanks so much for being a guest in

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Speaker 5: the Herd.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on. Happy Thanksgiving Brothers.

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Speaker 5: You too.

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Speaker 7: Mark Amen joins us on the Doug Gottlieb on seeing

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Speaker 7: me on the Herd. Doug Gollipillion for Colin