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Speaker 1: now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought
Speaker 1: us sixty six days until the NFL Draft takes place
Speaker 1: here in uh, Dallas Fort Worth area, Arlington, Texas. Thank
Speaker 1: you forgetting that it's happening here. Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: we do this anyway, but yeah, it's happening right down
Speaker 1: the road. It is very exciting that we will have
Speaker 1: the draft here at at and T Stadium. Looking forward
Speaker 1: to that. We will be here at the Star all
Speaker 1: three of those days, uh, covering it for you. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it is upon us. Next Tuesday, this group will be
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for the Combine, so looking forward to that
Speaker 1: as well. Stories from the combine. You know, get a
Speaker 1: chance to visit with players, general managers, coaches, We'll hear
Speaker 1: all the rumors, speculation, try and get a little bit
Speaker 1: better idea of what's going on coming up with this draft,
Speaker 1: and then we will hit into some pro days I'm
Speaker 1: planning on going the University of Alabama myself and checking
Speaker 1: that out, so we'll be involved with all those. As
Speaker 1: the Big Boys guy said, it's Brian Brows here with
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, K Garrison executive producing from the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. We did a show Boys earlier there
Speaker 1: where we traded back and decided where we would like
Speaker 1: to potentially land this thing. Pick some players, maybe pick
Speaker 1: up some some picks along the way. We were thinking
Speaker 1: about top one hundred picks. That's we determined though that
Speaker 1: we weren't going to take a a offensive guard or
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman unless we got a third round pick
Speaker 1: out of that. Am I correct about that? That was me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am not a favor in favor of drafting a
Speaker 1: offensive linement unless it's Quittin Nelson top twenty in this draft.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Um, there could be a scenario
Speaker 1: where that's all that's left for the Cowboys at nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you can trade back pick up a third
Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about it. Yeah. I tend
Speaker 1: to agree with you on that. I mean, I'll be
Speaker 1: interested to see what happens with this. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: with the guard spot, you know, will they in fact
Speaker 1: do they like these guards enough? I mean, we've talked
Speaker 1: about that. You're a little bit of mercy of the
Speaker 1: board where they're at at nineteen. If it in fact
Speaker 1: is a guard, there is he better than a defensive
Speaker 1: tackle or a safety, or a corner or a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I want to get to the bottom
Speaker 1: of that too, about and that's one of my plans
Speaker 1: at the combine to try and get an idea, you know,
Speaker 1: the one technique, where is that going to fall? Where
Speaker 1: is the guard going to fall? On this board? Are
Speaker 1: they like these guys as much as we like these guys?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna trying to determine. And I think
Speaker 1: that'll tell us what direction this thing might go at nineteen.
Speaker 1: But to this point, though, I want to ask you guys,
Speaker 1: as we get going on the show, are there players
Speaker 1: in this draft that you're willing to trade up four?
Speaker 1: Are there? Guys? And again there too, And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this thing all the way up to Tampa Base
Speaker 1: pick at seven, if I could, you know, that's how
Speaker 1: far I think they're getting bold. I'm getting bold. I'm
Speaker 1: getting gonna get bold there now. I think when you
Speaker 1: get to the six, when you get to the Jets,
Speaker 1: you're starting to talk about next year's ones and things
Speaker 1: like that. And that's for another discussion. By the way,
Speaker 1: I want to have a discussion with you guys. We
Speaker 1: just had it up in the office. You don't want
Speaker 1: to just bring it here. Oh no, I want to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have this discussion. Okay, I'm gonna have this
Speaker 1: discussion about next year's ones because I sense that you
Speaker 1: guys are not interested in moving next year's one. Never
Speaker 1: not this year. No, no, but but I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: but you guys. You guys were basically telling me though,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't move next year's one unless it was for
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And then I reminded you about guys like
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald. We take last year, like Myles
Speaker 1: Garrett is a player that Miles Garrett. Yeah, there you go,
Speaker 1: that's a player that I would consider. Like it's just
Speaker 1: say Myles Garrett was in this draft. I would consider
Speaker 1: using next year's one to trade up to get Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: There's no question I would consider it. Would I pull
Speaker 1: the trigger that? So Aaron Donald that that didn't interest
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Have an Aaron Donald on your team for
Speaker 1: next year's one didn't interest you? Obviously it's interesting, but hindsight,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you though, you guys kind of flatly
Speaker 1: said it was nothing but quarterback or nothing. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if the risk is worth the reward, especially
Speaker 1: because you don't have the benefit of Where did you
Speaker 1: have Aaron Donald on your board? Gosh, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Was he a top five? No? I wasn't as high
Speaker 1: on him as I should have been. I mean I
Speaker 1: think somewhere in the eight to Okay, most people fell
Speaker 1: where he should have. Okay, I'll give you bad. I'll
Speaker 1: give you my bad example. Where'd you have Joey Bosa?
Speaker 1: Hi top five? Three? Ramsey he was that top five
Speaker 1: that year was ridiculous with Zeke. The top five or
Speaker 1: the number one player to me was Laramy Tunsel and
Speaker 1: then I think it was Ramsey, Bosa, Zeke, Miles Jack.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that that Trapp is ridiculous on
Speaker 1: the top five. So we wouldn't give up our if
Speaker 1: we're evaluating these guys and he's a top five player
Speaker 1: for you, all those guys you mentioned were top five players, right,
Speaker 1: but we wouldn't give up next year's one for a
Speaker 1: top five player. It just depends because and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's a hindsight deal. I'm saying if you evaluate
Speaker 1: because but what's very evident to me is you've evaluated
Speaker 1: the position correctly, or you've evaluated the players correctly. What
Speaker 1: you need to do is look at the player on
Speaker 1: your respective team and try to decide, Okay, how many
Speaker 1: more you know? You're here in baseball, you're here the
Speaker 1: term wins above replacement. You know, how many wins is
Speaker 1: this player? Okay? You kind of have to do that
Speaker 1: with this discussion about if you're in a trade up
Speaker 1: for this player, does he help you win more football games?
Speaker 1: And how significant of an increase in the win loss
Speaker 1: record can he be so a player, especially at a
Speaker 1: premium position like a pass rushers Garrett Khalil Mack Joey Bosa,
Speaker 1: to me, the second most important position on your roster,
Speaker 1: that is a position that you absolutely should consider trading
Speaker 1: up for if you think he's an elite player. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: which and I'll make the point I made upstairs, which
Speaker 1: you know, going back to twenty ten, a six of
Speaker 1: the cowboys last eight first round picks are either Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl players, if not all pro players. It's going from
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant to well Taco. We'll see how that pans out.
Speaker 1: But right now, in a spam where you can fairly
Speaker 1: evaluate them, Mo and Buyer and Early, the one guy
Speaker 1: you traded up for, Ah, good point, Brian. The one
Speaker 1: guy you traded up for is the one that didn't
Speaker 1: pay out. So this is a front office. I'm being
Speaker 1: fair here. This is a front office that's hitting something
Speaker 1: like eighty five percent on its first round picks in
Speaker 1: terms of finding guys. So would you rather, I'm saying
Speaker 1: in general, rather, would you rather have like two Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber players or one Aaron Donald type player assuming
Speaker 1: that it pans out, Assuming that it does, which you
Speaker 1: can never guarantee, just a high risk, higher reward It is.
Speaker 1: Oh no, the whole thing I verse when I'm giving
Speaker 1: you guys credit for identifying Khalil Mack, Ramsey, Bosa, Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you guys credit for that. They're definitely players
Speaker 1: that are good enough to justify it. Let's bring it
Speaker 1: back to this, Drake. But I just I heard upstairs
Speaker 1: you guys say I would only do it for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: That is where it makes the most sense because really, like,
Speaker 1: look what's the bus factor on those Cats? Of course,
Speaker 1: but look what Deshaun Watson can do for your team.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously before you got hurt, but Carson Wentz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's another one. Yeah, I mean, you go, that's right,
Speaker 1: wins Is. Wins has been so good that I on Moost.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was not terrible for the fact that
Speaker 1: he was a rookie, but the word so good was
Speaker 1: just he was playing at an MVP level before he
Speaker 1: got hurt this year. Like, sure, I don't. But my
Speaker 1: point is I forget sometimes that the Eagles even made
Speaker 1: that move, but they did. You're right, trading a future
Speaker 1: one to go get him? Yeah, anyone in this draft
Speaker 1: that you would trade a one to go get Nelson,
Speaker 1: You would trade next year's one to go get him,
Speaker 1: just in a vacuum or for this team. He's he's
Speaker 1: one of my he's one of my top three players. Nelson. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh man, do you think he would Going back to
Speaker 1: what I was saying about, I think, you know, and
Speaker 1: again I'm just saying one of my top three players,
Speaker 1: and he fits and he fits, he fits perfectly what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need. I'm taking the Cowboys out of the equation. Nelson,
Speaker 1: to me is a guy that's going to play twelve
Speaker 1: fifteen years in this league. Agree easily, easily. The way
Speaker 1: he plays, his demeanor is tough. From this. You know,
Speaker 1: you talk about the run that Zack Martin's been on.
Speaker 1: This kid's going to be on a similar run. But
Speaker 1: you're giving up I mean, that's him, Taco to go
Speaker 1: get him. No, not so you would have draft. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm giving up. I'm giving up. I'm giving up Hurst
Speaker 1: to go get him. You're giving up first and you're
Speaker 1: giving up Hurst and some kid some other badass. Then
Speaker 1: next year you're gonna be like, oh, if only we
Speaker 1: had a pick so we could get Devin White or well,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, if you if you're focus in on this team,
Speaker 1: and how much of a difference would Nelson make on
Speaker 1: this team right now? He would help. But I don't
Speaker 1: think going back to what I was saying about wins
Speaker 1: above replacement and how many wins is he helping up, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think Nelson is going to move. It's not
Speaker 1: worth about two or three extra wins. Dane. Dane is
Speaker 1: smarter than me. That's and that's why it makes sense
Speaker 1: to do it. That's why it makes sense to do
Speaker 1: it for a quarterback because no other position affects your
Speaker 1: wins and losses more. Nelson's the best player in this draft,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's good for two or three
Speaker 1: more win How many? How many more wins? Better does
Speaker 1: he make this team? If you don't, I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: let's say they do a bad job of fixing the
Speaker 1: defense or or upgrading the defense, and they don't really
Speaker 1: change the suck a wide receiver. How much better does
Speaker 1: he make the team? Oh? He makes his team a
Speaker 1: lot bet or offensively, he does. He absolutely does. Sore
Speaker 1: he wins. That's what I'm saying. You go from a
Speaker 1: nine win team to twelve winks. I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're right. Not an offensive guard on
Speaker 1: this team, because the offensive line, as if everyone's healthy,
Speaker 1: is what's the strength of this team? You say, the
Speaker 1: offensive line? When when this when they win thirteen games,
Speaker 1: what was the strength of this team? The offensive line? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's not forget that. Bois. They were firing on a
Speaker 1: lot of others. You don't have to do. What would
Speaker 1: Bosa have done for this team? He would have helped
Speaker 1: stain Bosa Ramsey. Well, and that's what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett was in this draft, that's a name I
Speaker 1: would consider trading up for. He's the only one you
Speaker 1: sound like you would be trading up for. Can we
Speaker 1: just well, can we just call it what it is?
Speaker 1: This is kind of a weak draft. Yah. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not ten true top ten players. This isn't this isn't
Speaker 1: a blue chip draft. Okay, So you're telling me there's
Speaker 1: nobody Okay, So I can't get you to move up? Okay,
Speaker 1: obviously I can't get you to move up to the
Speaker 1: Jets at six. No, I can't get you. It takes
Speaker 1: a future one. Okay. And then so kick Tampa out
Speaker 1: of the mix. If you're looking at a two, three
Speaker 1: and a four potentially, right, Well, I mean let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about players. Well, no, we're going You guys just
Speaker 1: told me there's nobody worth trading up for. Who are
Speaker 1: you trying to get? No? I was, I was. That's
Speaker 1: my question to you, guys. That's and that's my point
Speaker 1: is there's not very many guys are saying, this is
Speaker 1: just draft stinks. There aren't it doesn't no draft stinks.
Speaker 1: There's always good players in it. What did you just say,
Speaker 1: it's a bad week compared to years ago. It is
Speaker 1: not that plain to him that scouts every time they
Speaker 1: hear that it's a weak draft, go do your job,
Speaker 1: Go find some players. No, that's not true. Like you
Speaker 1: can go back and trade. If you can go back
Speaker 1: and chart these things, Brian, you can go look at
Speaker 1: twenty eleven when like half of the first round is
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers and you can ain't buying a word. You're saying, oh,
Speaker 1: look I can pull up the twenty thirteen first round
Speaker 1: for you. I don't in this draft. I don't think
Speaker 1: you have to trade up into the top ten to
Speaker 1: get a difference maker like I think you can still
Speaker 1: get one of the teams. What is this thought about
Speaker 1: that draft? This draft is not good? Well it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a good draft. It's just not it's not top heavy.
Speaker 1: We don't have the see that bothers me when people
Speaker 1: say that three of the top fifteen picks in twenty three.
Speaker 1: Do your job, reach the po will be good at
Speaker 1: your job. You'll find some players. If bad thing to
Speaker 1: say that's a poor scout excuse. I disagree. It's not
Speaker 1: an excuse to say that. It is an excuse. No,
Speaker 1: it's not to say that other drafts were stronger at that.
Speaker 1: It's not an excuse to say that some drafts have
Speaker 1: better talent at the top. That's not an excuse, that's
Speaker 1: just a fact. But it's an excuse to say that, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna throw up our hands and say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not a good draft. No, that's not Sorry, we're
Speaker 1: saying we're not going to trade up and get rid
Speaker 1: of assets to get Why because you want a draft?
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to get rid of my picks
Speaker 1: to get a player that's probably not worth it. Oh
Speaker 1: it's a bad draft, though, Dave. It's a draft where
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make much, go get the best player.
Speaker 1: Then you're you're you're not baiting me right now. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna work. What the odds that I'm going to
Speaker 1: trade up and get a guy that's worth getting rid
Speaker 1: of future picks instead of just staying where I am.
Speaker 1: Did you tell me or maybe back did he tell
Speaker 1: me that it's it's it's not a top heavy draft,
Speaker 1: the one to go get the best player. How do
Speaker 1: you feel it's not a top heavy How do you
Speaker 1: feel about your top ten in this draft as opposed
Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen. Oh, I you're right that part of it.
Speaker 1: You're right, But I'm just saying, okay with one, am
Speaker 1: I taking crazy pills? No? No, But but you're saying
Speaker 1: though it's overall it's not a good draft, and you
Speaker 1: but you're only saying it's only because of one part.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the first round here. We're not talking
Speaker 1: about rounds one to seven. That's conversation. Should say that
Speaker 1: the conversation, it was implied that we're talking about the
Speaker 1: first round picks. That was implied. Yeah, I mean like
Speaker 1: this isn't this draft class has plenty of strengths at
Speaker 1: certain positions. I think there's great value second third round,
Speaker 1: which goes to the overall point about being reluctant to
Speaker 1: trade those picks because I think the strength of this
Speaker 1: draft is on Day two and there are because there
Speaker 1: aren't those blue trippers at the top, there aren't those
Speaker 1: true difference makers. Again, I love quentnin Nelson. He's the
Speaker 1: best player in this draft. I don't think he's a
Speaker 1: difference maker for this team. I think it'd be an
Speaker 1: awesome addition. He'd be a heck of a guy that
Speaker 1: you know put out there. I don't think he's worth
Speaker 1: two or three wins. Who is worth two or three
Speaker 1: wins in this draft in the top of the of
Speaker 1: the board. I'm not sure there is one for this team.
Speaker 1: For other teams, maybe maybe Quentin Nelson is for another team,
Speaker 1: but I don't think for this team. Se Quon Barkley
Speaker 1: maybe for another team. I don't not for this team. Obviously.
Speaker 1: With Zeke the guy I keep coming back to, there's
Speaker 1: two guys I keep coming back to, Calvin Ridley and
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith. Those are two guys who I think can
Speaker 1: make an immediate impact and be a core player on
Speaker 1: the roster moving forward. Let me ask you a question,
Speaker 1: how okay, say they draft Key? You like Calvin? Really? Right?
Speaker 1: I damn my wide receiver? I do, But I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would trade up for him. Well, let's
Speaker 1: just say. Let's just say that he's on this team,
Speaker 1: that he's their first round pick. Either he lasted nineteen
Speaker 1: to the trade of for him. How long before he
Speaker 1: is the number one wide receiver on this team, not
Speaker 1: like the role number one, but the most talented wide
Speaker 1: receiver on this team. It's Dens Bryant still on this team. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think within because we look at receivers all the
Speaker 1: time and say it's probably takes two three years before
Speaker 1: they even you've done the evaluation. Yeah, Calvin, really specifically,
Speaker 1: how long? See, we made the mistake of trading up
Speaker 1: for a wider. We're trading for two ones for Joey Galloway.
Speaker 1: You know there's there's your mis evaluation right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's your best factor on these wide receivers? Now? See,
Speaker 1: I'm not if you guys are telling me, See, the
Speaker 1: one thing I'm trying to trade up for is a
Speaker 1: guard who I know can play. You know that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. You guys are trying to trade up
Speaker 1: for for risk players. I'm not Okay. Would you rather
Speaker 1: have Witt Wilson or Isaiah Win and next year's one?
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Quintin Nielson, Okay, I'd rather have Win.
Speaker 1: Like again, if you insert Win at left guard, I
Speaker 1: don't think we over evaluate and win. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Look, and Nelson is the number one player
Speaker 1: in this draft that doesn't mean that he is going
Speaker 1: to win you x amount of games more than if
Speaker 1: win again. And it's we're talking about the Cowboys, right
Speaker 1: but their roster, their situation, their depth chart. And I'm
Speaker 1: going back to the question I asked you before because
Speaker 1: I want an answer on Calvin Ridley. If he's on
Speaker 1: this team, how long before he is the best receiver
Speaker 1: on this team? Two years? It's a long time. Two years. See,
Speaker 1: I think at some point in his rookie season he'd
Speaker 1: be the best receiver on this team. There we go,
Speaker 1: not immediate. I'm not saying from training So I like
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley a lot, but I don't see like more
Speaker 1: Ridley better who you like? I mean, I love DJ Moore.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know that he's any better.
Speaker 1: And part of the reason that I love DJ Moore
Speaker 1: is like the value because I don't think you have
Speaker 1: to take him at nineteen And do I know that
Speaker 1: he lasts still fifty? Probably not. But I don't see Calvin.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see the win above replacements for
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley being that disgusting to be honest with, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, how long before
Speaker 1: you think he's the best receiver on this team. I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be during his rookie season. I
Speaker 1: don't either. Okay, Okay, let me ask you this. Tell
Speaker 1: me what you said about Smith about his he's I hear,
Speaker 1: he's not for everybody, size limitations, real que Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And if I'm we're trading up for that, okay, well
Speaker 1: trust the evaluation. And if I'm the Cowboys, I'm hoping
Speaker 1: he comes in at six o two to twenty three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two twenty three, runs four seven six, sure not you know,
Speaker 1: not great average, But see he's not, as you said,
Speaker 1: he's not for everybody, right, he might not be known.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know how eighteen teams that pick
Speaker 1: in front of the Cowboys. You're gonna think how they're
Speaker 1: going to look at Roquan Smith. And would you give
Speaker 1: a second round pick for him? Would you go to
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at twelve and give a second round pick? Now
Speaker 1: you're talking about things that I would do, and I said,
Speaker 1: off the that'd be tough to not do. Okay, I would, Okay,
Speaker 1: if if I had, if I had to give a
Speaker 1: second who are you going to give a second round
Speaker 1: pick for Ridley or Smith. Roquan's higher on my board,
Speaker 1: and so I would I would go and get Roquan.
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about things I'm more willing to do.
Speaker 1: All right, let me put it on this scenario. What
Speaker 1: would you rather do? Trade nineteen and a two to
Speaker 1: go up and get Roquan or nineteen and a three
Speaker 1: to go up, Say to fifteen and get Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather have the linebacker, even for the
Speaker 1: higher cost. If you told me we're not going to
Speaker 1: pick at fifty, but we got Roquan, Say you what though,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help my quarterback. Yeah, no, there's that's
Speaker 1: a thing, you know. And if if if if if
Speaker 1: Smith's not for everybody you know, and I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a Smith fan. Okay, let me ask you this. Okay,
Speaker 1: Edmonds is not as high on your list, and right
Speaker 1: I's like twelve, I'm not as high as on Edmunds
Speaker 1: as everyone else. Oh, may ask this. Would you give
Speaker 1: Would you go to Cincinnati at twelve give the two
Speaker 1: to get Smith or would you go to Arizona at
Speaker 1: fifteen and give up a third and get Edmonds? For
Speaker 1: this team, I'd go and get the higher player on
Speaker 1: my board, Roque, I like Edmonds a lot. I just
Speaker 1: think there's going to be I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: help you as much as a rookie as what you're hoping,
Speaker 1: especially for this team. It's a win now team. Do
Speaker 1: you think Ridley really helps you that much as first year?
Speaker 1: You said through halfway through the first year, he's your
Speaker 1: best receiver. Yeah. I don't know about halfway, but I
Speaker 1: think at some point during his rookie year I think
Speaker 1: he you could look at him as the best receiver
Speaker 1: on the team. Can you get him? Can we get
Speaker 1: him for green Bay's pick? For we give a third
Speaker 1: and a fourth to go get him at fourteen? Are
Speaker 1: we willing to do that? I think I'd be looking
Speaker 1: at fifteen in Arizona. So so so let me let's
Speaker 1: determine here we're not willing to give it. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: take that back, we are willing to give up the
Speaker 1: second at Cincinnati at twelve. I like how you're keep
Speaker 1: using Cincinnati, who like notoriously doesn't trade. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to get him to trade that. I know, but okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do this. Miami eleven, Miami eleven, same thing if
Speaker 1: it's for a player that I feel great about. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy I said was Derwin James. Like,
Speaker 1: if you told me I could get Derwin James, throw
Speaker 1: him in the mix, Drwin James at eleven, if you
Speaker 1: told me, I could do that and give up the second.
Speaker 1: So I get Derwin James and then I pick in
Speaker 1: the third. I could live with that Smith Smith or
Speaker 1: James for the eleventh or twelfth, that's both the second
Speaker 1: round pick. I give me Smith. I use a better player.
Speaker 1: I think. I think James just has so much upside
Speaker 1: and also you could put him on the field quicker
Speaker 1: knock on wood assuming Jalen Smith and Shaun Lee are
Speaker 1: healthy this year. I mean ideally, I'm learning at Edmonds
Speaker 1: is clearly out of the picture here in an ideal scenario.
Speaker 1: Vita Vea come in here anywhere. Not for me. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not trading up for a dtack. Okay, we're cool
Speaker 1: because we know the defensive tackle. It's got a pretty
Speaker 1: pretty good depth. Yeah, with the one techniques in this draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let hey, let's ride it. It's you see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. I think this is a really good discussion, though,
Speaker 1: because of all the positions, and if you go back
Speaker 1: to last week's show when we talked about all the
Speaker 1: positions like linebacker and safety are ones at least where
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about addressing that position in a
Speaker 1: meaningful way outside of maybe the first round. Are meant
Speaker 1: to feel that way about wide receivers, don't we we
Speaker 1: feel good about wide receivers. And no opposite, No, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I'm just thinking in my mind that I
Speaker 1: was just not not not in that way. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What you're saying it is absolutely crat. I was just
Speaker 1: in my mind thinking about wide receivers with the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle that the depth. I'm sorry. I was just thinking
Speaker 1: of fact, like, yeah, I'm I like Calvin Ridley as
Speaker 1: a player, right, but with you like others more, with
Speaker 1: all the glar guys like that, Right, with all the
Speaker 1: guys that are back there, there's other wide receivers you
Speaker 1: can add that are good. You like, you're not screwed
Speaker 1: if you don't add Calvin Ridley to this team, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of talent wide receiver in the draft. Plenty
Speaker 1: of talent. Give me the top three guys you trade up,
Speaker 1: then out of our discussion. Who we determined, well, I
Speaker 1: mean we have to eliminate guys like Bradley Chubb and
Speaker 1: yeah we're we're we're not take those guys out. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna go We're not gonna dance up there. Realistically,
Speaker 1: I think Roquan for me would be the top guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: um and then Bridley Okay, I'd say Roquan, Edmunds James
Speaker 1: Can I throw in like? Can I throw in an
Speaker 1: edge rusher like? Or have we just writing that off?
Speaker 1: I knowe Chubbs maybe not an option? Who you the Davenport?
Speaker 1: I don't think I h huh, I don't know. If
Speaker 1: they love him? Boy, would that be? There's now there's
Speaker 1: your Did you feel like you evaluated him correctly? I
Speaker 1: would not be trading up Marcus Davenport now, not for
Speaker 1: this team. So you would fight me in the draft
Speaker 1: room if I got on the phone and tried to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, he's there's a lot of you do that,
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton to him, meaning year one, you're not seeing
Speaker 1: how I'm just seeing where he's at. I love Marcus Davenport.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a very good player in
Speaker 1: this league. But you know he's not gonna help you
Speaker 1: in a big way in year one. That's an upside pick,
Speaker 1: just asking. I'll tell you what. I think. We've got
Speaker 1: some names, so we're willing to go do well. I
Speaker 1: think Derwin James is an interesting one because I agree
Speaker 1: about ro Quan Smith. I think we all agree on
Speaker 1: ro Quan Edmonds is debatable. Yeah, Derwin James. That's and
Speaker 1: a part of that is the lack of depth that's
Speaker 1: safety this year. That's the thing that scares me. But
Speaker 1: sounds like my scouting buddies here that we're willing to
Speaker 1: go somewhere between eleven and twelve for a big time player,
Speaker 1: eleven and fifteen, eleven, twelve and and and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: at fifteen we're trying to go get Is James our
Speaker 1: targeted fifteen games? Be there at fifteen? That's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I saw your mock. I believe he was seventeen to
Speaker 1: Baltimore Chargers, Oh Chargers. I'm sorry, my bad Derwin James.
Speaker 1: Such a wild carse Baltimore. He's a better athlete than
Speaker 1: football player. We say at every single show. Who that's
Speaker 1: going to be evaluated differently by every team. Every team's
Speaker 1: gonna see the upside, but it's gonna be another thing
Speaker 1: to actually write the name down on the card and
Speaker 1: turn it in, because he is again just upside pick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I like James he go top ten. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of us would be shocked if if
Speaker 1: he does that. That it'll be interesting to see. But
Speaker 1: I like what we're saying. I like what I'm saying
Speaker 1: here from you guys. At least you'd give up the
Speaker 1: second to go to either the Dolphins at eleven or
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at twelve. I think about it. I'm not really
Speaker 1: just say oh no, no, you guys are in huh.
Speaker 1: I would yeah, I think the two two areas that'd
Speaker 1: look I'd give up a second to go up and
Speaker 1: get Roquan, and I'd give up a third to go
Speaker 1: and get Ridley. That's just me, okay, so the third,
Speaker 1: the third would be Arizona. So our two points somewhere
Speaker 1: between twelve and fifteen is where this team should look
Speaker 1: to trade. But we've talked about the players. It's quality
Speaker 1: players there, quality players, And I think that's that you're
Speaker 1: hoping that we see three quarterbacks top ten. You're hoping
Speaker 1: we see four quarterbacks top eleven, top twelve, right, Because
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then all of a sudden, those
Speaker 1: picks twelve, thirteen, fourteen are looking a lot better and
Speaker 1: you might have a chance to maybe give a third
Speaker 1: and fourth to go and you don't think you can
Speaker 1: hold on that too. Yeah, you have those compensatories too.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get without being march One more thing. As
Speaker 1: we did this exercise, did you feel better about going
Speaker 1: up are going back? Oh? That's a good question. That
Speaker 1: is a good question at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel better about the caliber of player
Speaker 1: you can get going up, but I want picks. So
Speaker 1: it's such a risky proposition because when you trade up,
Speaker 1: you know here we getting exactly you're trading up for
Speaker 1: a specific player. You know who you're getting. If you
Speaker 1: trade back, there's some I mean, just like there's risk
Speaker 1: trading up, there's risk trading back because you don't know
Speaker 1: who's going to be vail. If the Cowboys go from
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty six, right, you don't know who's there.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you go to Atlanta at
Speaker 1: twenty six, aggressive team Tommy dimitrof my buddy, that's a
Speaker 1: third and a fifth you're getting out of that. Well,
Speaker 1: just as a hypothetical, if you told me, I could
Speaker 1: trade up for Roquan Smith and use and lose a pick,
Speaker 1: or I could trade back and let's just say it's
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win and gain two more picks. I'll do that
Speaker 1: and not like, knowing full well that Win is a
Speaker 1: lesser player and maybe not even a guy Dane wants
Speaker 1: to draft in the first round. But oh no, if
Speaker 1: you if you dangle that third, he's in. Yes, but
Speaker 1: it's the third and a fifth. Again, the third isn't
Speaker 1: a top seventy five pick the Falcon's third rounders, No seven,
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's HiT's yeah, you're looking. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that I don't have a firm answer for you about
Speaker 1: what i'd rather do. You know, if I'd rather have
Speaker 1: Georgia linebacker or trade back game picks and get the
Speaker 1: Georgia guard I was gonna. I didn't mean to use
Speaker 1: to Georgia player. You didn't, Oh, well you can. Okay,
Speaker 1: what if it's Hernandez, then either way, I'm getting a
Speaker 1: starting player. I'm getting a starter in the first round
Speaker 1: and adding two more picks to what I already have, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, You've got like three or four comp
Speaker 1: picks coming too, so like you're talking about picking a
Speaker 1: lot on day two in day three in that scenario, well,
Speaker 1: and you're giving yourself AMMO that in the second round
Speaker 1: you can move it. You want to move up to
Speaker 1: get DJ more, you want to whatever you want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it gives you options. This is something that we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to revisit. Oh absolutely, I just like to get
Speaker 1: it out there. Yeah, I mean real, one more thing.
Speaker 1: I know, kids kill me, right, I gotta go to
Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, we're only ten minutes over. It was
Speaker 1: the fastest thirty minutes of the day right there. Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: second round pick at twenty eight that you would get.
Speaker 1: You'd go from nineteen to twenty eight and pick up
Speaker 1: their second or use that pick or use you lose
Speaker 1: your second and go to Miami at eleven so I
Speaker 1: can trade back again. You could know you trade back automatically.
Speaker 1: Just I'm just throwing it out there one more time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get to go to twenty eight pick up a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or you can go to eleven and give up your two.
Speaker 1: So you either give up a two or get a two.
Speaker 1: And so I'm picking three times in the top sixty. Yesh, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: ye tell me how bad that draft is now, Dave Hellman.
Speaker 1: But it's all it's all about. I'm just busting. I know.
Speaker 1: It's all about take it personal here in the old
Speaker 1: draft room. Never never, what do you want? No? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I trade back because I can probably still. I would
Speaker 1: hope I could still maybe wanted Derwin James. He wanted
Speaker 1: him and now he doesn't. That's not what I said.
Speaker 1: You asked me a question I get I would like.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to read your answer. I'm just in the
Speaker 1: war room here trying to read your answer. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see how committed you are to get in Derwin James.
Speaker 1: I think I got him on board for REALQUI okay,
Speaker 1: now there's gonna be a good fight. Ah. But we
Speaker 1: could probably still get Hernandez at twenty eight, couldn't we
Speaker 1: That's the risk. We could still get our guy. We
Speaker 1: could still get us start at a second. Could we
Speaker 1: get Golden Tennessee? Oh, I'd love That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You go another day, another twenty eight fifty, whatever their
Speaker 1: picket like, just give me all the picks. I love this.
Speaker 1: He sounds like us. He sounds like gimmick, gimme picks.
Speaker 1: All right, Ken't I'm really sorry about going ten minutes over.
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Speaker 1: I love those kind of conversations. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: have those about up and back, and I always like
Speaker 1: to see how committed guys are the players because I
Speaker 1: got challenged so much on that at my own the
Speaker 1: guys I grew up with there in Green Bay. Man,
Speaker 1: they wolf would just challenge the heck out of you
Speaker 1: to see how much you really wanted a player. Wait,
Speaker 1: that's I don't think i'd be any good at that
Speaker 1: because I don't think I love any player enough to
Speaker 1: just be like, yes, I'll tell you what there it is.
Speaker 1: I just wish everybody that loves the draft could be
Speaker 1: a part of a war room discussion. We need to
Speaker 1: we need to sell that as a sponsorship. Yeah. A week,
Speaker 1: you know, a week in the war room. I mean
Speaker 1: you learn, you learn a lot about yourself. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: couldn't drive a nail up your rear. You're so it's
Speaker 1: about discussions, but I'm sure, But no, seriously, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys. I mean I try and beat you guys up.
Speaker 1: Well I got beat up. Do beat us up. That's
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what. Yeah, like you said, it's kind
Speaker 1: of what a war room is. You gotta be tough,
Speaker 1: whish when you're building the draft board. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: fence sitting. No, I mean that's hey, listen, trust me.
Speaker 1: I've taken a beating on Jalen Smith. I've taken a
Speaker 1: beating on Joey Bosap. It's made me a better, better evaluator.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's all batting average, it's all I mean, Hey,
Speaker 1: just keep beating me up. That's fine. I promise you
Speaker 1: get better. There's a player in his draft, probably several
Speaker 1: players that we think our first round players that won't
Speaker 1: turn out to be. Yeah, that whole thing about the
Speaker 1: guard I don't know what they'll really do at that spot.
Speaker 1: You know, I really don't know. Well, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: how could you. Maybe we'll think about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we love guys. We have some guys. I mean we
Speaker 1: love them. But we'll see, we'll see it plays up.
Speaker 1: All right, this is one of my favorite you can
Speaker 1: say something. I'm sorry, I was about to get into
Speaker 1: the Twitter questions. All I will do that. Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: can't hit that sounder for play. We're about fourteen minutes
Speaker 1: late on that, so we'll try and do that. Also,
Speaker 1: the number eight eight eight eight five two two nine seven,
Speaker 1: be real nice to Kate Garrison. If you want to
Speaker 1: chime in on the discussion that we had, feel free
Speaker 1: to call in Kent. We'll get you on air after
Speaker 1: we do some Twitter questions. Go ahead, day This one,
Speaker 1: this question from Wayne kind of plays into the first segment,
Speaker 1: which is I think it's interesting he wants to know
Speaker 1: do teams put draft value on their current roster? And so,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you remember you heard the report
Speaker 1: that maybe the Cowboys might have been shopping Orlando Scandrick
Speaker 1: last year, right, And I mean, how does that work?
Speaker 1: Like is there a time where you sit never really
Speaker 1: you sit in that room and you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: these are are you know, these are our top fifty one,
Speaker 1: and this is what we would want for them. If
Speaker 1: somebody called, I mean, did teams do that? It seems
Speaker 1: like it would be smart. Yeah. I think that the
Speaker 1: discussion generally is, if you've moved on from a guy,
Speaker 1: you've moved on from a guy. You're not trying to
Speaker 1: give away guys, but if your mind, you're kind of thinking,
Speaker 1: you know what, here's a guy we're willing to push
Speaker 1: along just to kind of maybe make the deal a
Speaker 1: little bit better for somebody. Maybe somebody requests a guy
Speaker 1: from you. Well, and I was, so I'll give you
Speaker 1: an example. James Whalen. James Whalen, and this goes way back.
Speaker 1: James Whalen was a tight end that was here with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that the Cincinnati Bengals at one time wanted.
Speaker 1: And actually Jim Lippicott from the Bengals calls me up
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, we'd be interested in James Whalen.
Speaker 1: We're moving t J Housman Zada, And so I asked,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of thinking, I know how much
Speaker 1: we really didn't like James Whalen. So I just immediately
Speaker 1: said yeah, that'd be great. You want to turn in
Speaker 1: the paperwork, you got that, and then he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: well we'll think about it here for second. Let me
Speaker 1: a little thing. I'll get back with you. And then they,
Speaker 1: you know, they call back said they didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it. You gotta be less eager, you know. I
Speaker 1: just know how much we didn't want James Whalen, but
Speaker 1: she gave it away. You can't let that trimmy to
Speaker 1: packins bags for you. Well no, I just asked, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're willing to move on, they were.
Speaker 1: They sound like they were willing to move on from
Speaker 1: t J. Husman Zada. So you think it's it's only
Speaker 1: guys that they want to move on, you know. And
Speaker 1: I think Wayne used this as an example. It's probably
Speaker 1: a little extreme, but like, obviously you don't have any
Speaker 1: interest in trading Zach Martin obviously, but like if somebody
Speaker 1: called and was just like, this is what we're willing
Speaker 1: to give you, I mean, yeah, that's a good that's
Speaker 1: a fair that's fair. Oh yeah, if you if you
Speaker 1: were to say, okay, what what would be fair for
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. I saw some people over the weekend, we're
Speaker 1: tweeting at me about Earl Thomas and Dez Bryant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: trade him straight up. Well, okay, the cap hit for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, I think it's one point nine million for
Speaker 1: a trade, and Dallas is is over eight more, even
Speaker 1: more than that, maybe twelve a few more years. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: it's actually two more. He's got one more year. So now,
Speaker 1: where's the trade value there? You know, people say, no,
Speaker 1: it's they think it's you know, you try and line
Speaker 1: things up, but it's very rare that you get a
Speaker 1: trade of that. But you have you have seen more
Speaker 1: a player for players swaps recently. Then if if it's
Speaker 1: one year, one year, well well, or if it's two
Speaker 1: guys on their rookie deal, right, that's that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you. I don't know how you.
Speaker 1: It's hard to trade these two. It's hard. It's hard
Speaker 1: to trade ten to fifteen million dollar players. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it's hard to do that, especially if they're not on
Speaker 1: the same deal, and if you're thinking about cap charges
Speaker 1: is another thing. But yeah, no, the value. Now, if
Speaker 1: I believe the Saints with a team, you know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised the Saints might have an eye on
Speaker 1: Orlando Scandric And then you would say, okay, what do
Speaker 1: you what would you like? You know? Yeah, what we
Speaker 1: what are you willing to part for? Yeah? You know,
Speaker 1: And you could say, well, and again, folks, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he was part of the trade. I'm
Speaker 1: not trading him right now. I'm so hypothetic. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was part of a trade thing. So yeah, Michael wants
Speaker 1: to know, are we sure we're out on right end,
Speaker 1: just in terms of like that being in need and
Speaker 1: he all he mentioned Harold Landry as like a guy.
Speaker 1: Sure you see him in the mix at nineteen I
Speaker 1: feel we mentioned this when we did make me feel
Speaker 1: better last week. Like I think we would all probably
Speaker 1: agree that drafting and right end wouldn't be the end
Speaker 1: of the world for this team by any measure. I
Speaker 1: just don't know how I feel about the value where
Speaker 1: this team is sitting right now, at least that's how
Speaker 1: I see it, Wake Forest. You know we're talking about
Speaker 1: second or third round, probably second there right, I'm talking
Speaker 1: nineteen ye specifically, so like Harold Andry yeh, Marcus Davenport,
Speaker 1: that's after that. What else you got. I mean, but
Speaker 1: depending on how Sam Hubbard arden Key. No, that's not it. Well, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just I threw his name in there with it
Speaker 1: and I grimaced. Yeah, as that happened, arden Key. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's I mean basically what you're saying, it's
Speaker 1: the value and you know, going defensive end in the
Speaker 1: first round last year. I mean, no matter what happened
Speaker 1: for Taco as a rookie, they're not giving up on him.
Speaker 1: I mean, they still have high hosts for him. They
Speaker 1: still think he's going to be a starter in this league.
Speaker 1: You're gonna franchise Tag DeMarcus Lawrence most likely. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then after that, who knows. Uh, you can't really count
Speaker 1: on Randy Gregory for anything. No, I mean no, I'm
Speaker 1: hearing whispers that he is working very hard to try
Speaker 1: and get reinstated. Who's you're starting defensive ends on the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Cowboys, Tank and Tyrone just like it? Oh nineteen.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry I skipped ahead or I didn't skip ahead.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna do you think Tank is
Speaker 1: gonna get Tank, He's gonna get intended, So you think
Speaker 1: he's getting extended at so he just said, I do
Speaker 1: you think he's getting extended? Then we don't need to
Speaker 1: talk about defensive end a nineteen. They could tag him again,
Speaker 1: Yeah they could. I don't. Oh that's tough. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would assume he's going to get extended. If you
Speaker 1: if there's like doubt, then I think you think more
Speaker 1: about defensive en at nineteen. But if there's but is
Speaker 1: there a guy that fits the value like Harold Landry?
Speaker 1: Would you draft him there? Not at nineteen though? And
Speaker 1: I don't think he's I don't he's really a fit
Speaker 1: for this team. I don't either. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: I've got I've got here. Yeah, I've got Landry. I
Speaker 1: mean I've got him in that in that group. And
Speaker 1: we talked about where Davenport and Combines is gonna be
Speaker 1: big for Landry the medicals. And then let's just get
Speaker 1: some numbers on him. How big is he is he
Speaker 1: six fifty six one and a half to forty eight?
Speaker 1: What is he going to be? Numbers wise? Um? And
Speaker 1: then if he is undersized, well you better test well.
Speaker 1: You know your ten yards split your three cone. You
Speaker 1: better have big, big numbers if you're gonna be an
Speaker 1: undersized pass rusher. Yeah, Trip wants to know. We were
Speaker 1: talking about Darwin James earlier, how how versatile is he?
Speaker 1: And I I mean I've heard y'all talk about how
Speaker 1: he can play both safety spots. But Trips specifically wants
Speaker 1: to know, like, is this a guy that could play
Speaker 1: big nickel or big dime and like be that you know,
Speaker 1: that versatile to where you could use him as linebacker? Yeah?
Speaker 1: In spots? I think so. I mean he's done. He
Speaker 1: did everything of Florida State except put his hand on
Speaker 1: the ground. Good Blitzer too, by the way he is
Speaker 1: when he comes off the age. There's some disruption there,
Speaker 1: you know, knocking passes down and playing in lanes and
Speaker 1: understanding all that. He lined up outside at outside corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he he did everything, so he Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's that might be the best position for him.
Speaker 1: Is that big nickel defender? Absolutely a guy that you
Speaker 1: can use as I don't know, is this defense that
Speaker 1: created where they can do that? Yeah, you're interested, going
Speaker 1: Arizona out fifteen. Here's the thing I think when it's
Speaker 1: all said and done, I saw I saw a short
Speaker 1: video of him doing his He was practicing his vertical
Speaker 1: at whatever training complex lies when it's all said and done.
Speaker 1: Oh Dame Dame. We first started this exercise back in January.
Speaker 1: Dane was talking about how well he'll test, and he's
Speaker 1: one of the top five players back at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be, This is gonna be.
Speaker 1: Everybody's just gonna after listening to the draft show, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's gonna then you're gonna watch him
Speaker 1: test and you're gonna go. We're talking about him as
Speaker 1: a talking about him as a top twenty pick right now,
Speaker 1: and that's based on potential plus some of his tape.
Speaker 1: You know, we say his tape's not amazing, but you
Speaker 1: see enough there that you're excited. Add that to what
Speaker 1: I think his numbers are gonna be. I had bet
Speaker 1: he's a top ten pick. Like I don't genuinely think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna be able to sniff him. Plus
Speaker 1: you hear his teammates talk about him. It's like big
Speaker 1: time stuff. It's you know, he keeps us in line,
Speaker 1: he holds us accountable, he's a vocal leader, he takes
Speaker 1: care of us. I mean they just go low about
Speaker 1: Derwin James. Yeah, he's he's he's not gonna be there,
Speaker 1: I hope, so though no, I doubt it. Friend of
Speaker 1: the show, Bobby wants to know which that's that's Bobby
Speaker 1: belt right, which best player at his position Asian is
Speaker 1: most likely to fall to nineteen? So whether that you know,
Speaker 1: that could be Calvin Ridley, that could be well, don't
Speaker 1: say it won't be quarterback, won't be running back, won't
Speaker 1: be guard tackle? Who would that be? Wherever your top tackle?
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that you say that, but I
Speaker 1: look at I know Fitzpatrick. Is he your top corner?
Speaker 1: Or Ward top corner? Okay? Ward is my top corner
Speaker 1: Ohio State. And I don't over Minca. You have Minca safe? No, no,
Speaker 1: I have him over Minca. Okay. And I don't think
Speaker 1: either going to be They're both top ten picks to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I'm just kind of okay now, it's we talked
Speaker 1: about Smith, he roke on Smith. We don't think he'll
Speaker 1: be there, doubtful. Could people feeda veya? Could that be
Speaker 1: the possibility there? I mean, is he the one guy likely?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe somebody doesn't say that they don't want
Speaker 1: the three hundred forty found really good player, the very athletic.
Speaker 1: Is he the best? Is he the best? One technique?
Speaker 1: I think he see I have problems with video, say no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm Do you not have him the first round? I
Speaker 1: mean I do, Okay, if he's not okay, then you
Speaker 1: do you have him? Won? Two? Yes? Okay? One? Two
Speaker 1: would tell me okay, so you have him the back
Speaker 1: of the first Well, I haven't. He's top twenty for me. Okay.
Speaker 1: If he's top twenty, then all right. But I know,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people around the league believe
Speaker 1: he's a guy. I wonder if any chance he chanced it.
Speaker 1: How about this, he chanced that people have Jones Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones USA over Barkley. I'd be surprised. I would be Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be surprised. I mean, we all love Ronald Jones.
Speaker 1: I could see him going in the first round, but
Speaker 1: not over I could see him going in top twenty Seattle.
Speaker 1: I mean I could see that, but not over Barkley though, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Bert over Barkley. Okay. I don't see Barkley
Speaker 1: falling out of the top ten. And I don't think
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones gets to the top ten. Mcclinchy tackle. Is
Speaker 1: that your top tackle? That's my top ten tackle? Okay,
Speaker 1: there's could mcclinchy be I mean, is he the top
Speaker 1: tack Well, that's yeah, that's kind of the greater discussion.
Speaker 1: I mean you do you have more Lando Brown, Cartner Williams, Yeah, Glenchy.
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna get different answers debend on who
Speaker 1: you talk. Yeah, I think mcclinchy is my top he's
Speaker 1: my top tackle. He could very well be there at nineteen.
Speaker 1: I think he will be there. Yeah. Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: talking tackle, and could your your first tight end tighten?
Speaker 1: Your first tight end will be there? Yeah? Hurst in center? Yeah,
Speaker 1: center exactly yea, and yeah, maybe defensive tackle. See that's Hurst.
Speaker 1: Hurst is the best three technique. I say, if you
Speaker 1: divide them three to say you're yeah, you're dividing positions there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, who would you rather have? Hirst or Via?
Speaker 1: I mean two different positions? Give me a tackle. It's
Speaker 1: tough because there are two different It's like saying, who
Speaker 1: do you what's the better defensive back? You know, Denzel
Speaker 1: Ward or Derwin James only played two different positions. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying for the position, just for the just for
Speaker 1: the sake of defensive tackle. I think they would take Hurst.
Speaker 1: Who would you have whoud Okay, compare just put them together.
Speaker 1: I mean I have Hurst rated higher than Vita Vea
Speaker 1: on my board. Okay, so he would take Hurst if
Speaker 1: I needed a three technique. You but that's assuming assuming
Speaker 1: David Irving is here for twenty eighteen, which will just
Speaker 1: say that that's the case. Would you draft Hurst anyway
Speaker 1: because of because of if you know that David Irvan
Speaker 1: was only gonna be here for a year. But I
Speaker 1: don't think you can go wrong either way. But like
Speaker 1: this team doesn't have a real nose tackle. That's the
Speaker 1: thing I'm going back to. The addition of a nose
Speaker 1: tackle to this front seven would help in so many ways.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him ad that nose tackle. I
Speaker 1: think I would take via Veta Via Vita, thank you,
Speaker 1: Vita Vea, I thank you for I think I would
Speaker 1: take ve So where's day on your board? Brouss for
Speaker 1: from top tackle top tackle to hurt him and Hurst?
Speaker 1: Now the problem is, though, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I've got all these one techniques that I absolutely love, ye,
Speaker 1: and so I'm you know, I'm not totally interested in
Speaker 1: Vata Veya. Yeah, but they're not. You must not love
Speaker 1: him that much. Well, I, he's my top tackle, though,
Speaker 1: what are the odds that this team spends two? That
Speaker 1: sounds funny than it, But he is my top t
Speaker 1: is my top tackle. But you know what if if
Speaker 1: I if I a game is due, if I were
Speaker 1: to lose him, I'm okay with the guys behind him.
Speaker 1: You're in this scenario where it's Hurst Surveya. Though, the
Speaker 1: odds that they're going to draft two defensive tackles in
Speaker 1: premium spots seem I'm taken Veya. Then there you go?
Speaker 1: Is that what you wanted to know? That's that was
Speaker 1: the question? Well, No, I tried to get you guys
Speaker 1: to say which one of the defensive tackles you would take.
Speaker 1: I would take Veya. It just depends on the team.
Speaker 1: I mean, for this team, I would love to see
Speaker 1: them add the nose tackle and then you let Malie
Speaker 1: Collins be your three and see how that plays out. Sure,
Speaker 1: but again we talked about the one techniques in this draft.
Speaker 1: You can get one of the second or third round
Speaker 1: and be just fine. We're born you, Dave. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just sleepy. Sorry, thanks for coming on the show. My
Speaker 1: bad you nobody would have known if you hadn't called
Speaker 1: it out. I just make sure you know what. Your
Speaker 1: two guys are sitting there scouting with you, making sure
Speaker 1: you're okay. It's Monday morning. Yeah, why't you be better
Speaker 1: at your job? Let's go good? All right, it's way
Speaker 1: too early for that. That's only Monday. We talked about
Speaker 1: this a little bit, but it's it's a primary concern
Speaker 1: to me. So I'm gonna bring it back up because
Speaker 1: Trevor wants to know a center fielder type of safety
Speaker 1: that you can find outside of round one, like a
Speaker 1: guy who you think can cover, could maybe get some
Speaker 1: picks since nobody on this team likes doing that. I
Speaker 1: know who brought us is gonna say? I know who
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, You're gonna bring up your guy from
Speaker 1: Pitt Uh yeah, I think he'd beat my top guy
Speaker 1: over brought us this top guy, Jesse Bates Bates, Yeah
Speaker 1: rom where wait four? Ah? Okay, oh yeah, okay. You
Speaker 1: see him playing a lot of his own coverage, so
Speaker 1: you see him play back a lot, you know, and
Speaker 1: he that's what he does. He he kind of reads rallies,
Speaker 1: gets to the ball, tackles. You know, he has got
Speaker 1: some range to him. Whitehead is pitt Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the athletic upside. I think I can get that type
Speaker 1: of center field. I have him around behind Bates. I've
Speaker 1: got the opposite. I've got a two three on white
Speaker 1: Head and a three on Bats. Okay, And the thing
Speaker 1: with Bates we talked about before, under two hundred pounds
Speaker 1: that worries me a little bit, just his ability to
Speaker 1: hold up and you know, versus the run, and we
Speaker 1: know what he can do as a center fielder, but
Speaker 1: we'll be able to hold up. I don't I get
Speaker 1: some questions there. It's like golden, you have a corner, Golden,
Speaker 1: give me golden all day. If you're gonna, if you're gonna.
Speaker 1: If I can't get James, I've hooked you, man, Oh
Speaker 1: you have? I got you hooked on? Yeah, you know you.
Speaker 1: He walked in and said, hey, Brian, you might want
Speaker 1: to take a look at this number seven from Tennessee.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, start watching him. I'm going, Okay,
Speaker 1: why is he Why have we not talked about this guy?
Speaker 1: I'd say media scouts are a little behind on him
Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people are behind him. Catch
Speaker 1: up on him later. I want to watch him because
Speaker 1: I've watched Whitehead and I did not like him, so
Speaker 1: and that's I don't think they're getting Derwin James, and
Speaker 1: I would like to add a solid safety to this
Speaker 1: draft class. So Golden give me him as the guy. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's who I would be. I think you're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to tag Golden at fifty
Speaker 1: if you want to get him. Yeah, definitely. Maybe he
Speaker 1: might be gone earlier than that. I should be gone,
Speaker 1: but there's a chance he could be there at fifty.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see. Christian wants to know the way
Speaker 1: this draft falls. Do you think it's realistic that Dallas
Speaker 1: draft's offense twice in the first three rounds, So you're
Speaker 1: basically talking probably a guard and a wide receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the plausible, which maybe tight end. Yeah that's another one.
Speaker 1: There you go, Amy, I hope not, but maybe I go,
Speaker 1: yeah that's possible. Yeah, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you never rule something out. But at some point in time,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to grab a linebacker. Well, it might
Speaker 1: depend on what they do in freedency. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a huge piece of this puzzle missing, right. That's
Speaker 1: I mean if they look and if they add a
Speaker 1: veteran guard, you know, on the cheap, then that lessens
Speaker 1: the chance they go guard in the first few rounds
Speaker 1: Warner or just Sicky. I'm a BYU linebacker, yep, friend
Speaker 1: and Warner. I don't. I don't want to tight end.
Speaker 1: Give me, give me, I take Warner. Yeah, you take
Speaker 1: Warner over just Sicky. And you liked you Sicky, don't you?
Speaker 1: I think I have a three on him. What do
Speaker 1: you have Warner as at two or three? Two? Three?
Speaker 1: I got two threes on both of them. Okay, but
Speaker 1: I'd have Warner ahead of them. See, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get you to say who you would take Warner over
Speaker 1: the tight end, so that in his way, in his mind,
Speaker 1: he would not take you would you said three three
Speaker 1: draft three two offensive players in the first three rounds? Okay,
Speaker 1: then you're you wouldn't. I would do that. Well, even
Speaker 1: if they took a guard first, you would still take
Speaker 1: Warner in the second over just Sicky if they were
Speaker 1: tied in, and then I'd take him. I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with him. Look at Ian Thomas on third. Okay, who's
Speaker 1: your third round linebacker? Are you looking at Griffin Malik? Jefferson? Um?
Speaker 1: Guy more I I've got a four on Sky? More
Speaker 1: about our What do you have you have? Jefferson? What
Speaker 1: about Leonard? Got a three four on him? Okay? So
Speaker 1: what about the boise kid vander Esh see that I need?
Speaker 1: I need to go back and watch. Yes, you do,
Speaker 1: trust you. So I went back and watched them, and
Speaker 1: he said, watch the Oregon game. He played like the
Speaker 1: second coming of anybody. You want to. Don't be stubborn
Speaker 1: going back, and I'm gonna go back and watch, and
Speaker 1: if you feel the same way as you did before,
Speaker 1: then that will give you even more confidence that your
Speaker 1: evaluation is right. But what did you not like? What
Speaker 1: did you like not like about Vanders before? I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was very like And this isn't fair. This
Speaker 1: isn't fair at all, because you're talking about like the
Speaker 1: two best guys in the draft. But you watch Roquan
Speaker 1: and Edmonds just smacking people as I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was very physical and I didn't think he I thought
Speaker 1: he was outstanding in coverage. That best trade I thought
Speaker 1: he had. I did not see a physical guy. Now,
Speaker 1: if you tell me that Oregon game he's going to
Speaker 1: tackle everybody and be physical and get off blocks and
Speaker 1: all that, I'm dancing right with you. I think he's
Speaker 1: an ascending player. I think he's like, this is a guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mentioned this a lot, but the most fascinating part
Speaker 1: of the draft process is the journey. And with vander
Speaker 1: esh he was playing eight man football in high school.
Speaker 1: He was a quarterback in Idaho in the middle of nowhere,
Speaker 1: walked on the Boise State, barely played the first few
Speaker 1: years as he kind of got acclimated to just that
Speaker 1: what they're asking him to do. And then I think,
Speaker 1: as you saw this past year, you saw him get
Speaker 1: better and better as the season went on. And I
Speaker 1: think he's an ascending player. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: get better and better. So I think when you factor
Speaker 1: that in, that helps the evaluation a little bit. First
Speaker 1: time I watched him, I did see a playmaker. More
Speaker 1: I watched and watch I kind of appreciated what he
Speaker 1: did off the one game or just multiple multiple games.
Speaker 1: But and again I don't like him to say he's
Speaker 1: a first round pick, but I took him from A three,
Speaker 1: I would consider him. I don't think he'd be he
Speaker 1: he he's going to be right around that range. He'd
Speaker 1: be probably in the discussion. I would hope there'd be
Speaker 1: better players or higher players on my board there at fifty,
Speaker 1: but he'd be in a discussion. I know people playing
Speaker 1: him inside or outside um for this team, Yes, probably outside,
Speaker 1: but I you know I wouldn't probably outside. You I
Speaker 1: watched that clinchy. That's I want to excuse me. I
Speaker 1: want to watch him. I know Cowboys fans don't want
Speaker 1: to hear about another hurt guy, but I blame him.
Speaker 1: And you said, and you said he played eight games
Speaker 1: or played seven games the last two years. He he
Speaker 1: hasn't played football since last October. Okay, I'm intrigued. His tape, though,
Speaker 1: was at sixteen. Was so much better than any hurt
Speaker 1: guy I've ever seen. Watched him against LSU, Yeah, no doubt,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, you see the lateral quickness in another
Speaker 1: former walk on. Why are we not talking about Evans
Speaker 1: at all? Alabama? Rishan? We did, We talked about it.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked about him as much in
Speaker 1: the linebacker mix. He's kind of in that no man's
Speaker 1: land where I don't know if I don't think i'd
Speaker 1: take him at nineteen, but I don't think you last
Speaker 1: still fifty. So he's kind of in that no man's
Speaker 1: land where maybe he's a tradeback option. I don't think
Speaker 1: we mentioned him enough as a tradeback option. Alabama guys
Speaker 1: are banged up. Those defendants. Well, I was gonna, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just said vander Esh wasn't physical. I watched him
Speaker 1: and it's the opposite. He's like, he murders you if
Speaker 1: he hits you, But I'm not. I don't trust that
Speaker 1: he's gonna do everything right to get to the point
Speaker 1: of the There's some discipline issues. There's no doubt, good athlete.
Speaker 1: I'm eager to see how he tests, see how he does.
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw him dropping coverage sometimes not a
Speaker 1: lot more of a downhill player, put his hand on
Speaker 1: the ground on passing downs, brush off at the edge.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he's a guy that we should talk
Speaker 1: about as a tradeback option if they do trade back
Speaker 1: in the first can't do we have any calls? No
Speaker 1: call right now, Okay, jerks, We're we're out of questions.
Speaker 1: We're out of questions. I have questions. We're not quite
Speaker 1: out of time, not out of time yet, but did
Speaker 1: we take a second break? I guess we don't need
Speaker 1: to at this point. We're passed it at this point. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's fine to come back for one minute. Yeah, lost
Speaker 1: in the sauce. I'm sorry about that, kid. I really
Speaker 1: eight President's Day, surprised with folks out there, you know,
Speaker 1: off that they're not calling in saying hell to us.
Speaker 1: But see, well, I don't know about calling in, but
Speaker 1: maybe we got fewer questions because there's nobody at work.
Speaker 1: They're all doing like you're killing time on Twitter. If
Speaker 1: you're not, like, if you're off doing your own thing,
Speaker 1: if you're not at work today, you're not on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Let's go back, Let's go back and rehash some things.
Speaker 1: What do we learn today? What do we learned today?
Speaker 1: In our discussion, we learned that you're combative and you
Speaker 1: want to try to force us to get rid of
Speaker 1: our draft. You're like quitting Nelson of this room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: be real with me, you would really do that. You
Speaker 1: would Briton Nelson like take your scouts had off. Don't
Speaker 1: think about it objectively, think about like for this team.
Speaker 1: My scout just told me what this team best player
Speaker 1: in the draft. Just told me that that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: but he adding him to this roster greatly hinders your
Speaker 1: ability to add other things to this roster, does it not.
Speaker 1: We're having a lot of discussion about guys that you
Speaker 1: really don't feel great about. Oh hey, the Devas of
Speaker 1: the world. Oh I thought you Mount Nelson. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel us trade He said he would trade
Speaker 1: up for Smith. But we're also looking at traits of
Speaker 1: Smith or measurables that aren't ideal. If you list every
Speaker 1: the most important positions on this team, okay, where the
Speaker 1: linebackers one of them? Where's left guard? Come? Well, I
Speaker 1: think it's one of the top three. I think that's
Speaker 1: a problem. No, I'm not just no, just not needs
Speaker 1: take every position and say the top twenty two positions,
Speaker 1: starting positions, quarterbacks, one, defense, end too, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to where's left guard on your team? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to help my quarterback one again, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: help much so, so where does left guard? His left
Speaker 1: guard is not probably not a top ten position for you,
Speaker 1: don't you think you can help your quarterback without mortgaging
Speaker 1: your ability to I just hate I hate the band aid.
Speaker 1: It's not a band aid. No, no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: hate the band aid that you want to put their
Speaker 1: left guard. It's you're talking about you're talking about a
Speaker 1: free agent. It would would would what was the biggest
Speaker 1: David would will and end as be a band aid?
Speaker 1: Would he be a band Oh no, no, he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: All right, well, you don't have to trade away, but
Speaker 1: i'd have to. I'd have to hit him. I'd maybe
Speaker 1: have to hit him at nineteen, wouldn't I If I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna stand in there pick, I'm not gonna would.
Speaker 1: I can't trade back, draft away at nineteen. Draft a
Speaker 1: guard there if you want, Just don't give up a
Speaker 1: future first to go get this the same guy. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I don't back to the Isaiah Win
Speaker 1: or Quittin Nelson. Yeah, I don't think Quittnon Nelson gives
Speaker 1: you more wins than Isaiah Windows. I don't think he
Speaker 1: adds two or three more wins. And I'm in favor
Speaker 1: of the one point five million dollar free agent band
Speaker 1: aid if it frees me up to spend draft picks
Speaker 1: on other spots. As you watch the team win nine
Speaker 1: games last year with it, evaluate, I think they won
Speaker 1: nine games because their left guard wasn't any good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're the offensive line that was that was part of
Speaker 1: their problem. Sith is hurt then, yeah, the best player
Speaker 1: on their offensive line was banged up and out for
Speaker 1: a solid chunk of the year, and then the best
Speaker 1: player on there saying I don't want a band aid
Speaker 1: playing left guard. If I can, if I can, we
Speaker 1: get him somewhere other than fifth overall and give him
Speaker 1: up our first round. Okay, what do you don't need
Speaker 1: an operation? Where do you see? What do you see
Speaker 1: Quentin's What do you see h Roquan Smith playing? When
Speaker 1: he gets here? I see him? What? Excuse me? Oh?
Speaker 1: What position is Smith's best suited for in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Probably will? Who's your will? Linebacker? John Lee? Okay? No, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're if you're okay? If I if I okay, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that or what are the position?
Speaker 1: Can Roquan Smith play any position you want? Mike linebacker?
Speaker 1: You can play the mic Ou family, yes, let's go see. Okay,
Speaker 1: Dane's not hesitating. Okay, where will he start with the Cowboys? Then?
Speaker 1: I don't know what's his best position? You said it
Speaker 1: will linebacker was his best position. What's his coaching staff
Speaker 1: gonna want to do? They're gonna want to move Sean
Speaker 1: Lee to the middle? Are they gonna want You don't
Speaker 1: want to do that? I would bet you it's We
Speaker 1: don't know for sure because Matt Eberflus is no longer
Speaker 1: the coach here, But based on what they've done in
Speaker 1: past years, I would bet he would be Shan Lee's
Speaker 1: understudy and they would cross train him at all three
Speaker 1: positions to be the next guy up for any longer.
Speaker 1: And we talk about every time these guys this position
Speaker 1: flex and what is it got us? We have forty
Speaker 1: eight star forty eight games with Byron Jones, and we
Speaker 1: haven't figured out where to play him yet, have we?
Speaker 1: I could think Smith's not We're not. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: have that problem. Roguan Smith can play the mic, he
Speaker 1: can play the will. We can get too caught up
Speaker 1: in the left end, right And no, no, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to play him his best position. To your point, Ideally,
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend the first round pick on
Speaker 1: a linebacker either because of what you just said, which
Speaker 1: is why I'd like to trade up. He I didn't
Speaker 1: say that Dane would. Yeah, I trust him too. I
Speaker 1: would much rather spend money on a free agent a
Speaker 1: band aid to be your insurance policy than draft a
Speaker 1: guy in the first round band aid at linebacker or
Speaker 1: band aid at guard. I'd rather have the band aid
Speaker 1: at guard because you've got more talent around you to
Speaker 1: help him. Whereas An I mean, if you draft Roquan Smith,
Speaker 1: I mean you need to think about moving on from
Speaker 1: Shan Lee at some point anyway, so you're drafting him
Speaker 1: to be your will of the future. Chance that he
Speaker 1: won't start Quan Smith, absolutely, there's a chance, although a
Speaker 1: chance he won't start. Absolutely Ideally you probably don't want
Speaker 1: him to start right away unless which that's another conversation.
Speaker 1: I mean, put him on the field. There's every well,
Speaker 1: your scheme whatever, I don't care. Put him on the field.
Speaker 1: He's one of your There are not eleven better defensive
Speaker 1: players on your roster. I don't care. Play him wherever
Speaker 1: you have to play him to get him on the field.
Speaker 1: There's every Hey, you could draft Roquan Smith and start
Speaker 1: him at the mic and let Jalen be your guy
Speaker 1: because he for all, he doesn't need to be out
Speaker 1: there for sixty snaps. Anyway, we learned that last year
Speaker 1: or point. Be careful. We've done a good, nice job though. Hey,
Speaker 1: and I think he will improve. Trainers, everybody's done a
Speaker 1: great job. I think he will improve and give them credit. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: he I think he will improve, evaluate better and free
Speaker 1: agency and get that guy at left guard that frees
Speaker 1: up a lot of options on draft day. You guys commit.
Speaker 1: I agree with Dane. Dane and I are the common
Speaker 1: sense on this show, and you're just a madman trying
Speaker 1: to stir the pot. Yeah, thank you very much for
Speaker 1: joining the Draft show this week. Appreciate everybody out there.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your Presidence Day. We'll be back with your Thursday
Speaker 1: at eleven a m. Central. We'll have some more discussions.
Speaker 1: Hopefully these guys won't quit and go to another club
Speaker 1: before you have a chance, but that never Yeah, Brian
Speaker 1: brought us Danburg with David Helman, Kate Garrison. We'll see
Speaker 1: you next Thursday. Thank you had the