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Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Cowboys on

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Speaker 1: the Ore war Room for in center news and draft

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Speaker 1: analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Ezekiel Elliott and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us sixty six days until the NFL Draft takes place

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Speaker 1: here in uh, Dallas Fort Worth area, Arlington, Texas. Thank

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Speaker 1: you forgetting that it's happening here. Yeah, you know, like

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Speaker 1: we do this anyway, but yeah, it's happening right down

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Speaker 1: the road. It is very exciting that we will have

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Speaker 1: the draft here at at and T Stadium. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that. We will be here at the Star all

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Speaker 1: three of those days, uh, covering it for you. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is upon us. Next Tuesday, this group will be

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for the Combine, so looking forward to that

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Speaker 1: as well. Stories from the combine. You know, get a

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Speaker 1: chance to visit with players, general managers, coaches, We'll hear

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Speaker 1: all the rumors, speculation, try and get a little bit

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Speaker 1: better idea of what's going on coming up with this draft,

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Speaker 1: and then we will hit into some pro days I'm

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Speaker 1: planning on going the University of Alabama myself and checking

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Speaker 1: that out, so we'll be involved with all those. As

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Speaker 1: the Big Boys guy said, it's Brian Brows here with

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, K Garrison executive producing from the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. We did a show Boys earlier there

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Speaker 1: where we traded back and decided where we would like

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Speaker 1: to potentially land this thing. Pick some players, maybe pick

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Speaker 1: up some some picks along the way. We were thinking

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Speaker 1: about top one hundred picks. That's we determined though that

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Speaker 1: we weren't going to take a a offensive guard or

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman unless we got a third round pick

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Speaker 1: out of that. Am I correct about that? That was me? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am not a favor in favor of drafting a

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Speaker 1: offensive linement unless it's Quittin Nelson top twenty in this draft.

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Speaker 1: But that's just me. Um, there could be a scenario

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Speaker 1: where that's all that's left for the Cowboys at nineteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if you can trade back pick up a third

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Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about it. Yeah. I tend

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Speaker 1: interested to see what happens with this. Uh, you know

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Speaker 1: with the guard spot, you know, will they in fact

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Speaker 1: do they like these guards enough? I mean, we've talked

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Speaker 1: about that. You're a little bit of mercy of the

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Speaker 1: is a guard, there is he better than a defensive

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I want to get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of that too, about and that's one of my plans

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Speaker 1: at the combine to try and get an idea, you know,

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Speaker 1: the one technique, where is that going to fall? Where

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Speaker 1: they like these guys as much as we like these guys?

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna trying to determine. And I think

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Speaker 1: that'll tell us what direction this thing might go at nineteen.

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Speaker 1: But to this point, though, I want to ask you guys,

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Speaker 1: as we get going on the show, are there players

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Speaker 1: Are there? Guys? And again there too, And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take this thing all the way up to Tampa Base

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Speaker 1: pick at seven, if I could, you know, that's how

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Speaker 1: far I think they're getting bold. I'm getting bold. I'm

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Speaker 1: like that. And that's for another discussion. By the way,

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Speaker 1: to just bring it here. Oh no, I want to.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have this discussion. Okay, I'm gonna have this

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Speaker 1: not this year. No, no, but but I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: saying it's a hindsight deal. I'm saying if you evaluate

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Speaker 1: the position correctly, or you've evaluated the players correctly. What

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Speaker 1: term wins above replacement. You know, how many wins is

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Speaker 1: with this discussion about if you're in a trade up

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Speaker 1: Oh no, the whole thing I verse when I'm giving

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Speaker 1: That is where it makes the most sense because really, like,

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Speaker 1: but look what Deshaun Watson can do for your team.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving up. I'm giving up. I'm giving up Hurst

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Speaker 1: think going back to what I was saying about wins

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Speaker 1: above replacement and how many wins is he helping up, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Nelson is going to move. It's not

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Speaker 1: wins and losses more. Nelson's the best player in this draft,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think he's good for two or three

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Speaker 1: more win How many? How many more wins? Better does

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Speaker 1: he make this team? If you don't, I'm I mean,

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Speaker 1: change the suck a wide receiver. How much better does

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Speaker 1: he make the team? Oh? He makes his team a

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Speaker 1: lot bet or offensively, he does. He absolutely does. Sore

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Speaker 1: he wins. That's what I'm saying. You go from a

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Speaker 1: offensive line? When when this when they win thirteen games,

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Speaker 1: Bosa have done for this team? He would have helped

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Speaker 1: true difference makers. Again, I love quentnin Nelson. He's the

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Speaker 1: For other teams, maybe maybe Quentin Nelson is for another team,

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Speaker 1: With Zeke the guy I keep coming back to, there's

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Speaker 1: know if I would trade up for him. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: just say. Let's just say that he's on this team,

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Speaker 1: is the number one wide receiver on this team, not

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Speaker 1: they even you've done the evaluation. Yeah, Calvin, really specifically,

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Speaker 1: You know there's there's your mis evaluation right there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Quintin Nielson, Okay, I'd rather have Win.

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Speaker 1: don't think we over evaluate and win. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. Look, and Nelson is the number one player

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Speaker 1: I think at some point in his rookie season he'd

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Speaker 1: not immediate. I'm not saying from training So I like

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't see the win above replacements for

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, how long before

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Speaker 1: And if I'm we're trading up for that, okay, well

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know how eighteen teams that pick

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Speaker 1: going to look at Roquan Smith. And would you give

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Speaker 1: You said through halfway through the first year, he's your

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Speaker 1: is clearly out of the picture here in an ideal scenario.

423
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Speaker 1: Vita Vea come in here anywhere. Not for me. No,

424
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Speaker 1: I'm not trading up for a dtack. Okay, we're cool

425
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Speaker 1: because we know the defensive tackle. It's got a pretty

426
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: pretty good depth. Yeah, with the one techniques in this draft. Yeah,

427
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Speaker 1: let's let hey, let's ride it. It's you see it. Yeah,

428
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: there you go. I think this is a really good discussion, though,

429
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: because of all the positions, and if you go back

430
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: to last week's show when we talked about all the

431
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: positions like linebacker and safety are ones at least where

432
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,479
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about addressing that position in a

433
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Speaker 1: meaningful way outside of maybe the first round. Are meant

434
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Speaker 1: to feel that way about wide receivers, don't we we

435
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Speaker 1: feel good about wide receivers. And no opposite, No, no no, no,

436
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Speaker 1: no no, I'm just thinking in my mind that I

437
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Speaker 1: was just not not not in that way. I'm sorry.

438
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Speaker 1: What you're saying it is absolutely crat. I was just

439
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Speaker 1: in my mind thinking about wide receivers with the defensive

440
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: tackle that the depth. I'm sorry. I was just thinking

441
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Speaker 1: of fact, like, yeah, I'm I like Calvin Ridley as

442
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Speaker 1: a player, right, but with you like others more, with

443
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Speaker 1: all the glar guys like that, Right, with all the

444
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: guys that are back there, there's other wide receivers you

445
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Speaker 1: can add that are good. You like, you're not screwed

446
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: if you don't add Calvin Ridley to this team, right, Yeah,

447
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: there's plenty of talent wide receiver in the draft. Plenty

448
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: of talent. Give me the top three guys you trade up,

449
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: then out of our discussion. Who we determined, well, I

450
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Speaker 1: mean we have to eliminate guys like Bradley Chubb and

451
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Speaker 1: yeah we're we're we're not take those guys out. We're

452
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Speaker 1: not gonna go We're not gonna dance up there. Realistically,

453
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Speaker 1: I think Roquan for me would be the top guy. Okay,

454
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Speaker 1: um and then Bridley Okay, I'd say Roquan, Edmunds James

455
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Speaker 1: Can I throw in like? Can I throw in an

456
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Speaker 1: edge rusher like? Or have we just writing that off?

457
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Speaker 1: I knowe Chubbs maybe not an option? Who you the Davenport?

458
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Speaker 1: I don't think I h huh, I don't know. If

459
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: they love him? Boy, would that be? There's now there's

460
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Speaker 1: your Did you feel like you evaluated him correctly? I

461
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Speaker 1: would not be trading up Marcus Davenport now, not for

462
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: this team. So you would fight me in the draft

463
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: room if I got on the phone and tried to

464
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, he's there's a lot of you do that,

465
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Speaker 1: Taco Charlton to him, meaning year one, you're not seeing

466
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Speaker 1: how I'm just seeing where he's at. I love Marcus Davenport.

467
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a very good player in

468
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Speaker 1: this league. But you know he's not gonna help you

469
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Speaker 1: in a big way in year one. That's an upside pick,

470
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Speaker 1: just asking. I'll tell you what. I think. We've got

471
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Speaker 1: some names, so we're willing to go do well. I

472
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Speaker 1: think Derwin James is an interesting one because I agree

473
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Speaker 1: about ro Quan Smith. I think we all agree on

474
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Speaker 1: ro Quan Edmonds is debatable. Yeah, Derwin James. That's and

475
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Speaker 1: a part of that is the lack of depth that's

476
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Speaker 1: safety this year. That's the thing that scares me. But

477
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: sounds like my scouting buddies here that we're willing to

478
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Speaker 1: go somewhere between eleven and twelve for a big time player,

479
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Speaker 1: eleven and fifteen, eleven, twelve and and and maybe maybe

480
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Speaker 1: at fifteen we're trying to go get Is James our

481
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Speaker 1: targeted fifteen games? Be there at fifteen? That's I don't know.

482
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: I saw your mock. I believe he was seventeen to

483
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: Baltimore Chargers, Oh Chargers. I'm sorry, my bad Derwin James.

484
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 1: Such a wild carse Baltimore. He's a better athlete than

485
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: football player. We say at every single show. Who that's

486
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: going to be evaluated differently by every team. Every team's

487
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: gonna see the upside, but it's gonna be another thing

488
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Speaker 1: to actually write the name down on the card and

489
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: turn it in, because he is again just upside pick. Yeah.

490
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Speaker 1: So I like James he go top ten. Yeah, I

491
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 1: don't think any of us would be shocked if if

492
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: he does that. That it'll be interesting to see. But

493
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Speaker 1: I like what we're saying. I like what I'm saying

494
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Speaker 1: here from you guys. At least you'd give up the

495
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Speaker 1: second to go to either the Dolphins at eleven or

496
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati at twelve. I think about it. I'm not really

497
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: just say oh no, no, you guys are in huh.

498
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Speaker 1: I would yeah, I think the two two areas that'd

499
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: look I'd give up a second to go up and

500
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Speaker 1: get Roquan, and I'd give up a third to go

501
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: and get Ridley. That's just me, okay, so the third,

502
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: the third would be Arizona. So our two points somewhere

503
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: between twelve and fifteen is where this team should look

504
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: to trade. But we've talked about the players. It's quality

505
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: players there, quality players, And I think that's that you're

506
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: hoping that we see three quarterbacks top ten. You're hoping

507
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: we see four quarterbacks top eleven, top twelve, right, Because

508
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then all of a sudden, those

509
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: picks twelve, thirteen, fourteen are looking a lot better and

510
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Speaker 1: you might have a chance to maybe give a third

511
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Speaker 1: and fourth to go and you don't think you can

512
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: hold on that too. Yeah, you have those compensatories too.

513
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna get without being march One more thing. As

514
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Speaker 1: we did this exercise, did you feel better about going

515
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: up are going back? Oh? That's a good question. That

516
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: is a good question at the end of the day.

517
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel better about the caliber of player

518
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: you can get going up, but I want picks. So

519
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: it's such a risky proposition because when you trade up,

520
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: you know here we getting exactly you're trading up for

521
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: a specific player. You know who you're getting. If you

522
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: trade back, there's some I mean, just like there's risk

523
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: trading up, there's risk trading back because you don't know

524
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: who's going to be vail. If the Cowboys go from

525
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty six, right, you don't know who's there.

526
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you go to Atlanta at

527
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: twenty six, aggressive team Tommy dimitrof my buddy, that's a

528
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: third and a fifth you're getting out of that. Well,

529
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: just as a hypothetical, if you told me, I could

530
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: trade up for Roquan Smith and use and lose a pick,

531
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: or I could trade back and let's just say it's

532
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win and gain two more picks. I'll do that

533
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: and not like, knowing full well that Win is a

534
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: lesser player and maybe not even a guy Dane wants

535
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: to draft in the first round. But oh no, if

536
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: you if you dangle that third, he's in. Yes, but

537
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: it's the third and a fifth. Again, the third isn't

538
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: a top seventy five pick the Falcon's third rounders, No seven,

539
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's HiT's yeah, you're looking. Yeah, so

540
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: that I don't have a firm answer for you about

541
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: what i'd rather do. You know, if I'd rather have

542
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: Georgia linebacker or trade back game picks and get the

543
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: Georgia guard I was gonna. I didn't mean to use

544
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: to Georgia player. You didn't, Oh, well you can. Okay,

545
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: what if it's Hernandez, then either way, I'm getting a

546
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: starting player. I'm getting a starter in the first round

547
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: and adding two more picks to what I already have, which,

548
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: by the way, You've got like three or four comp

549
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: picks coming too, so like you're talking about picking a

550
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: lot on day two in day three in that scenario, well,

551
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: and you're giving yourself AMMO that in the second round

552
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: you can move it. You want to move up to

553
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: get DJ more, you want to whatever you want to do. Yeah,

554
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: it gives you options. This is something that we're gonna

555
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: have to revisit. Oh absolutely, I just like to get

556
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: it out there. Yeah, I mean real, one more thing.

557
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I know, kids kill me, right, I gotta go to

558
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, we're only ten minutes over. It was

559
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: the fastest thirty minutes of the day right there. Pittsburgh's

560
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: second round pick at twenty eight that you would get.

561
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: You'd go from nineteen to twenty eight and pick up

562
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: their second or use that pick or use you lose

563
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: your second and go to Miami at eleven so I

564
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: can trade back again. You could know you trade back automatically.

565
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: Just I'm just throwing it out there one more time. Yeah,

566
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: you get to go to twenty eight pick up a second. Yeah,

567
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: or you can go to eleven and give up your two.

568
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: So you either give up a two or get a two.

569
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: And so I'm picking three times in the top sixty. Yesh, yeah, whatever,

570
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: ye tell me how bad that draft is now, Dave Hellman.

571
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: But it's all it's all about. I'm just busting. I know.

572
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: It's all about take it personal here in the old

573
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: draft room. Never never, what do you want? No? Yeah,

574
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: I trade back because I can probably still. I would

575
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: hope I could still maybe wanted Derwin James. He wanted

576
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: him and now he doesn't. That's not what I said.

577
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: You asked me a question I get I would like.

578
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to read your answer. I'm just in the

579
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: war room here trying to read your answer. I'm I'm

580
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna see how committed you are to get in Derwin James.

581
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: I think I got him on board for REALQUI okay,

582
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: now there's gonna be a good fight. Ah. But we

583
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: could probably still get Hernandez at twenty eight, couldn't we

584
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: That's the risk. We could still get our guy. We

585
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: could still get us start at a second. Could we

586
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: get Golden Tennessee? Oh, I'd love That's what I'm talking about.

587
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: You go another day, another twenty eight fifty, whatever their

588
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: picket like, just give me all the picks. I love this.

589
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: He sounds like us. He sounds like gimmick, gimme picks.

590
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: All right, Ken't I'm really sorry about going ten minutes over.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll get in some Twitter questions.

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Speaker 1: with David Hellman Kit Garrison Executive producing today. As always,

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Speaker 1: I love those kind of conversations. I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: have those about up and back, and I always like

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Speaker 1: to see how committed guys are the players because I

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Speaker 1: got challenged so much on that at my own the

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Speaker 1: guys I grew up with there in Green Bay. Man,

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Speaker 1: they wolf would just challenge the heck out of you

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Speaker 1: to see how much you really wanted a player. Wait,

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Speaker 1: that's I don't think i'd be any good at that

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Speaker 1: because I don't think I love any player enough to

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Speaker 1: just be like, yes, I'll tell you what there it is.

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Speaker 1: I just wish everybody that loves the draft could be

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Speaker 1: a part of a war room discussion. We need to

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Speaker 1: we need to sell that as a sponsorship. Yeah. A week,

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Speaker 1: you know, a week in the war room. I mean

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Speaker 1: you learn, you learn a lot about yourself. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: couldn't drive a nail up your rear. You're so it's

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Speaker 1: about discussions, but I'm sure, But no, seriously, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys. I mean I try and beat you guys up.

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Speaker 1: Well I got beat up. Do beat us up. That's

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what. Yeah, like you said, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of what a war room is. You gotta be tough,

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Speaker 1: whish when you're building the draft board. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 1: fence sitting. No, I mean that's hey, listen, trust me.

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Speaker 1: I've taken a beating on Jalen Smith. I've taken a

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Speaker 1: beating on Joey Bosap. It's made me a better, better evaluator.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's all batting average, it's all I mean, Hey,

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Speaker 1: just keep beating me up. That's fine. I promise you

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Speaker 1: get better. There's a player in his draft, probably several

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Speaker 1: players that we think our first round players that won't

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Speaker 1: turn out to be. Yeah, that whole thing about the

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Speaker 1: guard I don't know what they'll really do at that spot.

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Speaker 1: You know, I really don't know. Well, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how could you. Maybe we'll think about that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we love guys. We have some guys. I mean we

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Speaker 1: love them. But we'll see, we'll see it plays up.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is one of my favorite you can

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Speaker 1: say something. I'm sorry, I was about to get into

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Speaker 1: the Twitter questions. All I will do that. Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 1: can't hit that sounder for play. We're about fourteen minutes

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Speaker 1: late on that, so we'll try and do that. Also,

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Speaker 1: the number eight eight eight eight five two two nine seven,

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Speaker 1: be real nice to Kate Garrison. If you want to

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Speaker 1: chime in on the discussion that we had, feel free

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Speaker 1: to call in Kent. We'll get you on air after

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Speaker 1: we do some Twitter questions. Go ahead, day This one,

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Speaker 1: this question from Wayne kind of plays into the first segment,

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Speaker 1: which is I think it's interesting he wants to know

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Speaker 1: do teams put draft value on their current roster? And so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you remember you heard the report

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Speaker 1: that maybe the Cowboys might have been shopping Orlando Scandrick

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Speaker 1: last year, right, And I mean, how does that work?

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Speaker 1: Like is there a time where you sit never really

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Speaker 1: you sit in that room and you're like, all right,

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Speaker 1: these are are you know, these are our top fifty one,

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Speaker 1: and this is what we would want for them. If

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Speaker 1: somebody called, I mean, did teams do that? It seems

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Speaker 1: like it would be smart. Yeah. I think that the

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Speaker 1: discussion generally is, if you've moved on from a guy,

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Speaker 1: you've moved on from a guy. You're not trying to

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Speaker 1: give away guys, but if your mind, you're kind of thinking,

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Speaker 1: you know what, here's a guy we're willing to push

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Speaker 1: along just to kind of maybe make the deal a

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Speaker 1: little bit better for somebody. Maybe somebody requests a guy

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Speaker 1: from you. Well, and I was, so I'll give you

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Speaker 1: an example. James Whalen. James Whalen, and this goes way back.

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Speaker 1: James Whalen was a tight end that was here with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys that the Cincinnati Bengals at one time wanted.

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Speaker 1: And actually Jim Lippicott from the Bengals calls me up

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Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, we'd be interested in James Whalen.

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Speaker 1: We're moving t J Housman Zada, And so I asked,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of thinking, I know how much

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Speaker 1: we really didn't like James Whalen. So I just immediately

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Speaker 1: said yeah, that'd be great. You want to turn in

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Speaker 1: the paperwork, you got that, and then he goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: well we'll think about it here for second. Let me

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Speaker 1: a little thing. I'll get back with you. And then they,

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Speaker 1: you know, they call back said they didn't want to

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Speaker 1: do it. You gotta be less eager, you know. I

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Speaker 1: just know how much we didn't want James Whalen, but

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Speaker 1: she gave it away. You can't let that trimmy to

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Speaker 1: packins bags for you. Well no, I just asked, I mean, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're willing to move on, they were.

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Speaker 1: They sound like they were willing to move on from

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Speaker 1: t J. Husman Zada. So you think it's it's only

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Speaker 1: guys that they want to move on, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I think Wayne used this as an example. It's probably

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Speaker 1: a little extreme, but like, obviously you don't have any

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Speaker 1: interest in trading Zach Martin obviously, but like if somebody

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Speaker 1: called and was just like, this is what we're willing

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Speaker 1: to give you, I mean, yeah, that's a good that's

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Speaker 1: a fair that's fair. Oh yeah, if you if you

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Speaker 1: were to say, okay, what what would be fair for

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Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. I saw some people over the weekend, we're

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Speaker 1: tweeting at me about Earl Thomas and Dez Bryant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: trade him straight up. Well, okay, the cap hit for

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, I think it's one point nine million for

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Speaker 1: a trade, and Dallas is is over eight more, even

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Speaker 1: more than that, maybe twelve a few more years. Yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: it's actually two more. He's got one more year. So now,

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Speaker 1: where's the trade value there? You know, people say, no,

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Speaker 1: it's they think it's you know, you try and line

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Speaker 1: things up, but it's very rare that you get a

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Speaker 1: trade of that. But you have you have seen more

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Speaker 1: a player for players swaps recently. Then if if it's

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Speaker 1: one year, one year, well well, or if it's two

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Speaker 1: guys on their rookie deal, right, that's that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you. I don't know how you.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to trade these two. It's hard. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to trade ten to fifteen million dollar players. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to do that, especially if they're not on

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Speaker 1: the same deal, and if you're thinking about cap charges

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Speaker 1: is another thing. But yeah, no, the value. Now, if

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised the Saints might have an eye on

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Speaker 1: Orlando Scandric And then you would say, okay, what do

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Speaker 1: you what would you like? You know? Yeah, what we

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Speaker 1: what are you willing to part for? Yeah? You know,

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Speaker 1: And you could say, well, and again, folks, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying he was part of the trade. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trading him right now. I'm so hypothetic. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was part of a trade thing. So yeah, Michael wants

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Speaker 1: to know, are we sure we're out on right end,

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Speaker 1: just in terms of like that being in need and

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Speaker 1: he all he mentioned Harold Landry as like a guy.

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Speaker 1: Sure you see him in the mix at nineteen I

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Speaker 1: feel we mentioned this when we did make me feel

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Speaker 1: better last week. Like I think we would all probably

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Speaker 1: agree that drafting and right end wouldn't be the end

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Speaker 1: of the world for this team by any measure. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how I feel about the value where

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Speaker 1: this team is sitting right now, at least that's how

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Speaker 1: I see it, Wake Forest. You know we're talking about

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Speaker 1: second or third round, probably second there right, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: nineteen ye specifically, so like Harold Andry yeh, Marcus Davenport,

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Speaker 1: that's after that. What else you got. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: depending on how Sam Hubbard arden Key. No, that's not it. Well, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I threw his name in there with it

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Speaker 1: and I grimaced. Yeah, as that happened, arden Key. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that's I mean basically what you're saying, it's

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Speaker 1: the value and you know, going defensive end in the

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Speaker 1: first round last year. I mean, no matter what happened

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Speaker 1: for Taco as a rookie, they're not giving up on him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they still have high hosts for him. They

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Speaker 1: still think he's going to be a starter in this league.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna franchise Tag DeMarcus Lawrence most likely. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then after that, who knows. Uh, you can't really count

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Speaker 1: on Randy Gregory for anything. No, I mean no, I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing whispers that he is working very hard to try

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Speaker 1: and get reinstated. Who's you're starting defensive ends on the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Cowboys, Tank and Tyrone just like it? Oh nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry I skipped ahead or I didn't skip ahead.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna do you think Tank is

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Speaker 1: gonna get Tank, He's gonna get intended, So you think

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Speaker 1: he's getting extended at so he just said, I do

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Speaker 1: you think he's getting extended? Then we don't need to

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Speaker 1: talk about defensive end a nineteen. They could tag him again,

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Speaker 1: Yeah they could. I don't. Oh that's tough. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would assume he's going to get extended. If you

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Speaker 1: if there's like doubt, then I think you think more

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Speaker 1: about defensive en at nineteen. But if there's but is

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Speaker 1: there a guy that fits the value like Harold Landry?

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Speaker 1: Would you draft him there? Not at nineteen though? And

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's I don't he's really a fit

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Speaker 1: for this team. I don't either. That's a lot of

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Speaker 1: I've got I've got here. Yeah, I've got Landry. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've got him in that in that group. And

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Speaker 1: we talked about where Davenport and Combines is gonna be

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Speaker 1: big for Landry the medicals. And then let's just get

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Speaker 1: some numbers on him. How big is he is he

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Speaker 1: six fifty six one and a half to forty eight?

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Speaker 1: What is he going to be? Numbers wise? Um? And

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Speaker 1: then if he is undersized, well you better test well.

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Speaker 1: You know your ten yards split your three cone. You

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Speaker 1: better have big, big numbers if you're gonna be an

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Speaker 1: undersized pass rusher. Yeah, Trip wants to know. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about Darwin James earlier, how how versatile is he?

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Speaker 1: And I I mean I've heard y'all talk about how

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Speaker 1: he can play both safety spots. But Trips specifically wants

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Speaker 1: to know, like, is this a guy that could play

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Speaker 1: big nickel or big dime and like be that you know,

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Speaker 1: that versatile to where you could use him as linebacker? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: In spots? I think so. I mean he's done. He

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Speaker 1: did everything of Florida State except put his hand on

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Speaker 1: the ground. Good Blitzer too, by the way he is

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Speaker 1: when he comes off the age. There's some disruption there,

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Speaker 1: you know, knocking passes down and playing in lanes and

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Speaker 1: understanding all that. He lined up outside at outside corner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he he did everything, so he Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's that might be the best position for him.

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Speaker 1: Is that big nickel defender? Absolutely a guy that you

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Speaker 1: can use as I don't know, is this defense that

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Speaker 1: created where they can do that? Yeah, you're interested, going

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Speaker 1: Arizona out fifteen. Here's the thing I think when it's

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Speaker 1: all said and done, I saw I saw a short

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Speaker 1: video of him doing his He was practicing his vertical

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Speaker 1: at whatever training complex lies when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 1: Oh Dame Dame. We first started this exercise back in January.

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Speaker 1: Dane was talking about how well he'll test, and he's

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Speaker 1: one of the top five players back at that point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be, This is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's just gonna after listening to the draft show, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's gonna then you're gonna watch him

839
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: test and you're gonna go. We're talking about him as

840
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: a talking about him as a top twenty pick right now,

841
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: and that's based on potential plus some of his tape.

842
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: You know, we say his tape's not amazing, but you

843
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: see enough there that you're excited. Add that to what

844
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I think his numbers are gonna be. I had bet

845
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: he's a top ten pick. Like I don't genuinely think

846
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna be able to sniff him. Plus

847
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: you hear his teammates talk about him. It's like big

848
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: time stuff. It's you know, he keeps us in line,

849
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: he holds us accountable, he's a vocal leader, he takes

850
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 1: care of us. I mean they just go low about

851
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: Derwin James. Yeah, he's he's he's not gonna be there,

852
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: I hope, so though no, I doubt it. Friend of

853
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: the show, Bobby wants to know which that's that's Bobby

854
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: belt right, which best player at his position Asian is

855
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: most likely to fall to nineteen? So whether that you know,

856
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: that could be Calvin Ridley, that could be well, don't

857
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: say it won't be quarterback, won't be running back, won't

858
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: be guard tackle? Who would that be? Wherever your top tackle?

859
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that you say that, but I

860
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: look at I know Fitzpatrick. Is he your top corner?

861
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: Or Ward top corner? Okay? Ward is my top corner

862
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Ohio State. And I don't over Minca. You have Minca safe? No, no,

863
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I have him over Minca. Okay. And I don't think

864
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: either going to be They're both top ten picks to me. Okay,

865
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: but I'm just kind of okay now, it's we talked

866
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: about Smith, he roke on Smith. We don't think he'll

867
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: be there, doubtful. Could people feeda veya? Could that be

868
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: the possibility there? I mean, is he the one guy likely?

869
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean maybe somebody doesn't say that they don't want

870
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: the three hundred forty found really good player, the very athletic.

871
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Is he the best? Is he the best? One technique?

872
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: I think he see I have problems with video, say no, no,

873
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm Do you not have him the first round? I

874
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: mean I do, Okay, if he's not okay, then you

875
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: do you have him? Won? Two? Yes? Okay? One? Two

876
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: would tell me okay, so you have him the back

877
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: of the first Well, I haven't. He's top twenty for me. Okay.

878
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: If he's top twenty, then all right. But I know,

879
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people around the league believe

880
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: he's a guy. I wonder if any chance he chanced it.

881
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: How about this, he chanced that people have Jones Ronald

882
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: Jones USA over Barkley. I'd be surprised. I would be Yeah,

883
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: I would be surprised. I mean, we all love Ronald Jones.

884
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: I could see him going in the first round, but

885
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: not over I could see him going in top twenty Seattle.

886
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean I could see that, but not over Barkley though, yeah,

887
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean Bert over Barkley. Okay. I don't see Barkley

888
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: falling out of the top ten. And I don't think

889
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones gets to the top ten. Mcclinchy tackle. Is

890
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: that your top tackle? That's my top ten tackle? Okay,

891
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: there's could mcclinchy be I mean, is he the top

892
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: tack Well, that's yeah, that's kind of the greater discussion.

893
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean you do you have more Lando Brown, Cartner Williams, Yeah, Glenchy.

894
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna get different answers debend on who

895
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: you talk. Yeah, I think mcclinchy is my top he's

896
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: my top tackle. He could very well be there at nineteen.

897
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: I think he will be there. Yeah. Okay, so you're

898
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: talking tackle, and could your your first tight end tighten?

899
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: Your first tight end will be there? Yeah? Hurst in center? Yeah,

900
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: center exactly yea, and yeah, maybe defensive tackle. See that's Hurst.

901
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Hurst is the best three technique. I say, if you

902
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: divide them three to say you're yeah, you're dividing positions there.

903
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, who would you rather have? Hirst or Via?

904
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean two different positions? Give me a tackle. It's

905
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: tough because there are two different It's like saying, who

906
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: do you what's the better defensive back? You know, Denzel

907
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: Ward or Derwin James only played two different positions. I'm

908
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: just saying for the position, just for the just for

909
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: the sake of defensive tackle. I think they would take Hurst.

910
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: Who would you have whoud Okay, compare just put them together.

911
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: I mean I have Hurst rated higher than Vita Vea

912
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: on my board. Okay, so he would take Hurst if

913
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I needed a three technique. You but that's assuming assuming

914
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: David Irving is here for twenty eighteen, which will just

915
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: say that that's the case. Would you draft Hurst anyway

916
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: because of because of if you know that David Irvan

917
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: was only gonna be here for a year. But I

918
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: don't think you can go wrong either way. But like

919
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: this team doesn't have a real nose tackle. That's the

920
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: thing I'm going back to. The addition of a nose

921
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: tackle to this front seven would help in so many ways.

922
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him ad that nose tackle. I

923
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: think I would take via Veta Via Vita, thank you,

924
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: Vita Vea, I thank you for I think I would

925
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: take ve So where's day on your board? Brouss for

926
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: from top tackle top tackle to hurt him and Hurst?

927
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Now the problem is, though, now all of a sudden,

928
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: I've got all these one techniques that I absolutely love, ye,

929
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: and so I'm you know, I'm not totally interested in

930
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: Vata Veya. Yeah, but they're not. You must not love

931
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: him that much. Well, I, he's my top tackle, though,

932
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: what are the odds that this team spends two? That

933
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: sounds funny than it, But he is my top t

934
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: is my top tackle. But you know what if if

935
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: I if I a game is due, if I were

936
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: to lose him, I'm okay with the guys behind him.

937
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: You're in this scenario where it's Hurst Surveya. Though, the

938
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: odds that they're going to draft two defensive tackles in

939
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: premium spots seem I'm taken Veya. Then there you go?

940
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: Is that what you wanted to know? That's that was

941
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: the question? Well, No, I tried to get you guys

942
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: to say which one of the defensive tackles you would take.

943
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: I would take Veya. It just depends on the team.

944
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean, for this team, I would love to see

945
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: them add the nose tackle and then you let Malie

946
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Collins be your three and see how that plays out. Sure,

947
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: but again we talked about the one techniques in this draft.

948
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: You can get one of the second or third round

949
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: and be just fine. We're born you, Dave. No, I'm

950
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: just sleepy. Sorry, thanks for coming on the show. My

951
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: bad you nobody would have known if you hadn't called

952
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: it out. I just make sure you know what. Your

953
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: two guys are sitting there scouting with you, making sure

954
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: you're okay. It's Monday morning. Yeah, why't you be better

955
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: at your job? Let's go good? All right, it's way

956
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: too early for that. That's only Monday. We talked about

957
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: this a little bit, but it's it's a primary concern

958
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: to me. So I'm gonna bring it back up because

959
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: Trevor wants to know a center fielder type of safety

960
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: that you can find outside of round one, like a

961
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: guy who you think can cover, could maybe get some

962
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: picks since nobody on this team likes doing that. I

963
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: know who brought us is gonna say? I know who

964
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, You're gonna bring up your guy from

965
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: Pitt Uh yeah, I think he'd beat my top guy

966
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: over brought us this top guy, Jesse Bates Bates, Yeah

967
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: rom where wait four? Ah? Okay, oh yeah, okay. You

968
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: see him playing a lot of his own coverage, so

969
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: you see him play back a lot, you know, and

970
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: he that's what he does. He he kind of reads rallies,

971
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: gets to the ball, tackles. You know, he has got

972
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: some range to him. Whitehead is pitt Yeah, I think

973
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: the athletic upside. I think I can get that type

974
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: of center field. I have him around behind Bates. I've

975
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: got the opposite. I've got a two three on white

976
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Head and a three on Bats. Okay, And the thing

977
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: with Bates we talked about before, under two hundred pounds

978
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: that worries me a little bit, just his ability to

979
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: hold up and you know, versus the run, and we

980
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: know what he can do as a center fielder, but

981
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: we'll be able to hold up. I don't I get

982
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: some questions there. It's like golden, you have a corner, Golden,

983
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: give me golden all day. If you're gonna, if you're gonna.

984
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: If I can't get James, I've hooked you, man, Oh

985
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: you have? I got you hooked on? Yeah, you know you.

986
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: He walked in and said, hey, Brian, you might want

987
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: to take a look at this number seven from Tennessee.

988
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, start watching him. I'm going, Okay,

989
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: why is he Why have we not talked about this guy?

990
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: I'd say media scouts are a little behind on him

991
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people are behind him. Catch

992
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: up on him later. I want to watch him because

993
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: I've watched Whitehead and I did not like him, so

994
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: and that's I don't think they're getting Derwin James, and

995
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: I would like to add a solid safety to this

996
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: draft class. So Golden give me him as the guy. Absolutely, Yeah,

997
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: that's who I would be. I think you're gonna have to.

998
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to tag Golden at fifty

999
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: if you want to get him. Yeah, definitely. Maybe he

1000
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: might be gone earlier than that. I should be gone,

1001
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: but there's a chance he could be there at fifty.

1002
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see. Christian wants to know the way

1003
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: this draft falls. Do you think it's realistic that Dallas

1004
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: draft's offense twice in the first three rounds, So you're

1005
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: basically talking probably a guard and a wide receiver. Yeah,

1006
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: that's the plausible, which maybe tight end. Yeah that's another one.

1007
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: There you go, Amy, I hope not, but maybe I go,

1008
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: yeah that's possible. Yeah, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I mean,

1009
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: you never rule something out. But at some point in time,

1010
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to grab a linebacker. Well, it might

1011
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: depend on what they do in freedency. That's I mean,

1012
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: there's a huge piece of this puzzle missing, right. That's

1013
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean if they look and if they add a

1014
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: veteran guard, you know, on the cheap, then that lessens

1015
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: the chance they go guard in the first few rounds

1016
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 1: Warner or just Sicky. I'm a BYU linebacker, yep, friend

1017
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: and Warner. I don't. I don't want to tight end.

1018
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: Give me, give me, I take Warner. Yeah, you take

1019
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Warner over just Sicky. And you liked you Sicky, don't you?

1020
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: I think I have a three on him. What do

1021
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: you have Warner as at two or three? Two? Three?

1022
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: I got two threes on both of them. Okay, but

1023
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: I'd have Warner ahead of them. See, I'm trying to

1024
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: get you to say who you would take Warner over

1025
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: the tight end, so that in his way, in his mind,

1026
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: he would not take you would you said three three

1027
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: draft three two offensive players in the first three rounds? Okay,

1028
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: then you're you wouldn't. I would do that. Well, even

1029
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: if they took a guard first, you would still take

1030
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: Warner in the second over just Sicky if they were

1031
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: tied in, and then I'd take him. I don't disagree

1032
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 1: with him. Look at Ian Thomas on third. Okay, who's

1033
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: your third round linebacker? Are you looking at Griffin Malik? Jefferson? Um?

1034
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Guy more I I've got a four on Sky? More

1035
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: about our What do you have you have? Jefferson? What

1036
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: about Leonard? Got a three four on him? Okay? So

1037
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: what about the boise kid vander Esh see that I need?

1038
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: I need to go back and watch. Yes, you do,

1039
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: trust you. So I went back and watched them, and

1040
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: he said, watch the Oregon game. He played like the

1041
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: second coming of anybody. You want to. Don't be stubborn

1042
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: going back, and I'm gonna go back and watch, and

1043
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: if you feel the same way as you did before,

1044
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: then that will give you even more confidence that your

1045
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: evaluation is right. But what did you not like? What

1046
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: did you like not like about Vanders before? I didn't

1047
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: think he was very like And this isn't fair. This

1048
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: isn't fair at all, because you're talking about like the

1049
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: two best guys in the draft. But you watch Roquan

1050
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: and Edmonds just smacking people as I didn't think he

1051
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: was very physical and I didn't think he I thought

1052
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: he was outstanding in coverage. That best trade I thought

1053
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: he had. I did not see a physical guy. Now,

1054
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: if you tell me that Oregon game he's going to

1055
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: tackle everybody and be physical and get off blocks and

1056
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: all that, I'm dancing right with you. I think he's

1057
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: an ascending player. I think he's like, this is a guy. Okay,

1058
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned this a lot, but the most fascinating part

1059
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: of the draft process is the journey. And with vander

1060
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: esh he was playing eight man football in high school.

1061
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: He was a quarterback in Idaho in the middle of nowhere,

1062
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: walked on the Boise State, barely played the first few

1063
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: years as he kind of got acclimated to just that

1064
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: what they're asking him to do. And then I think,

1065
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: as you saw this past year, you saw him get

1066
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: better and better as the season went on. And I

1067
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: think he's an ascending player. I think he's going to

1068
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: get better and better. So I think when you factor

1069
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: that in, that helps the evaluation a little bit. First

1070
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: time I watched him, I did see a playmaker. More

1071
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: I watched and watch I kind of appreciated what he

1072
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: did off the one game or just multiple multiple games.

1073
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: But and again I don't like him to say he's

1074
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: a first round pick, but I took him from A three,

1075
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: I would consider him. I don't think he'd be he

1076
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: he he's going to be right around that range. He'd

1077
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: be probably in the discussion. I would hope there'd be

1078
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: better players or higher players on my board there at fifty,

1079
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: but he'd be in a discussion. I know people playing

1080
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: him inside or outside um for this team, Yes, probably outside,

1081
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: but I you know I wouldn't probably outside. You I

1082
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: watched that clinchy. That's I want to excuse me. I

1083
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: want to watch him. I know Cowboys fans don't want

1084
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: to hear about another hurt guy, but I blame him.

1085
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: And you said, and you said he played eight games

1086
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: or played seven games the last two years. He he

1087
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: hasn't played football since last October. Okay, I'm intrigued. His tape, though,

1088
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: was at sixteen. Was so much better than any hurt

1089
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: guy I've ever seen. Watched him against LSU, Yeah, no doubt,

1090
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, you see the lateral quickness in another

1091
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: former walk on. Why are we not talking about Evans

1092
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: at all? Alabama? Rishan? We did, We talked about it.

1093
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked about him as much in

1094
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: the linebacker mix. He's kind of in that no man's

1095
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: land where I don't know if I don't think i'd

1096
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: take him at nineteen, but I don't think you last

1097
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: still fifty. So he's kind of in that no man's

1098
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: land where maybe he's a tradeback option. I don't think

1099
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 1: we mentioned him enough as a tradeback option. Alabama guys

1100
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: are banged up. Those defendants. Well, I was gonna, Okay,

1101
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: I just said vander Esh wasn't physical. I watched him

1102
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: and it's the opposite. He's like, he murders you if

1103
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: he hits you, But I'm not. I don't trust that

1104
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna do everything right to get to the point

1105
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: of the There's some discipline issues. There's no doubt, good athlete.

1106
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm eager to see how he tests, see how he does.

1107
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw him dropping coverage sometimes not a

1108
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: lot more of a downhill player, put his hand on

1109
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: the ground on passing downs, brush off at the edge.

1110
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he's a guy that we should talk

1111
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: about as a tradeback option if they do trade back

1112
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: in the first can't do we have any calls? No

1113
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: call right now, Okay, jerks, We're we're out of questions.

1114
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: We're out of questions. I have questions. We're not quite

1115
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: out of time, not out of time yet, but did

1116
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: we take a second break? I guess we don't need

1117
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: to at this point. We're passed it at this point. Yeah, okay,

1118
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: it's fine to come back for one minute. Yeah, lost

1119
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: in the sauce. I'm sorry about that, kid. I really

1120
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: eight President's Day, surprised with folks out there, you know,

1121
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: off that they're not calling in saying hell to us.

1122
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: But see, well, I don't know about calling in, but

1123
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: maybe we got fewer questions because there's nobody at work.

1124
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: They're all doing like you're killing time on Twitter. If

1125
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: you're not, like, if you're off doing your own thing,

1126
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: if you're not at work today, you're not on Twitter.

1127
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Let's go back, Let's go back and rehash some things.

1128
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: What do we learn today? What do we learned today?

1129
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: In our discussion, we learned that you're combative and you

1130
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: want to try to force us to get rid of

1131
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: our draft. You're like quitting Nelson of this room. Yeah,

1132
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: be real with me, you would really do that. You

1133
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: would Briton Nelson like take your scouts had off. Don't

1134
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: think about it objectively, think about like for this team.

1135
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: My scout just told me what this team best player

1136
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: in the draft. Just told me that that doesn't mean

1137
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: but he adding him to this roster greatly hinders your

1138
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: ability to add other things to this roster, does it not.

1139
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: We're having a lot of discussion about guys that you

1140
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: really don't feel great about. Oh hey, the Devas of

1141
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: the world. Oh I thought you Mount Nelson. I was like,

1142
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't feel us trade He said he would trade

1143
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: up for Smith. But we're also looking at traits of

1144
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: Smith or measurables that aren't ideal. If you list every

1145
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: the most important positions on this team, okay, where the

1146
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: linebackers one of them? Where's left guard? Come? Well, I

1147
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: think it's one of the top three. I think that's

1148
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: a problem. No, I'm not just no, just not needs

1149
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: take every position and say the top twenty two positions,

1150
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: starting positions, quarterbacks, one, defense, end too, blah blah blah blah.

1151
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to where's left guard on your team? I'm

1152
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: trying to help my quarterback one again, I'm trying to

1153
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: help much so, so where does left guard? His left

1154
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: guard is not probably not a top ten position for you,

1155
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: don't you think you can help your quarterback without mortgaging

1156
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: your ability to I just hate I hate the band aid.

1157
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: It's not a band aid. No, no, no, no, I

1158
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: hate the band aid that you want to put their

1159
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: left guard. It's you're talking about you're talking about a

1160
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: free agent. It would would would what was the biggest

1161
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: David would will and end as be a band aid?

1162
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: Would he be a band Oh no, no, he wouldn't.

1163
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: All right, well, you don't have to trade away, but

1164
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: i'd have to. I'd have to hit him. I'd maybe

1165
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: have to hit him at nineteen, wouldn't I If I'm

1166
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna stand in there pick, I'm not gonna would.

1167
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: I can't trade back, draft away at nineteen. Draft a

1168
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: guard there if you want, Just don't give up a

1169
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: future first to go get this the same guy. That's

1170
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I don't back to the Isaiah Win

1171
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: or Quittin Nelson. Yeah, I don't think Quittnon Nelson gives

1172
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: you more wins than Isaiah Windows. I don't think he

1173
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: adds two or three more wins. And I'm in favor

1174
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: of the one point five million dollar free agent band

1175
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: aid if it frees me up to spend draft picks

1176
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: on other spots. As you watch the team win nine

1177
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: games last year with it, evaluate, I think they won

1178
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: nine games because their left guard wasn't any good. Yeah,

1179
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: they're the offensive line that was that was part of

1180
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: their problem. Sith is hurt then, yeah, the best player

1181
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: on their offensive line was banged up and out for

1182
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: a solid chunk of the year, and then the best

1183
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: player on there saying I don't want a band aid

1184
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: playing left guard. If I can, if I can, we

1185
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: get him somewhere other than fifth overall and give him

1186
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: up our first round. Okay, what do you don't need

1187
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: an operation? Where do you see? What do you see

1188
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: Quentin's What do you see h Roquan Smith playing? When

1189
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: he gets here? I see him? What? Excuse me? Oh?

1190
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: What position is Smith's best suited for in the NFL?

1191
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: Probably will? Who's your will? Linebacker? John Lee? Okay? No, yeah, no,

1192
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: you're if you're okay? If I if I okay, excuse me,

1193
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that or what are the position?

1194
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: Can Roquan Smith play any position you want? Mike linebacker?

1195
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: You can play the mic Ou family, yes, let's go see. Okay,

1196
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: Dane's not hesitating. Okay, where will he start with the Cowboys? Then?

1197
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what's his best position? You said it

1198
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: will linebacker was his best position. What's his coaching staff

1199
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna want to do? They're gonna want to move Sean

1200
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: Lee to the middle? Are they gonna want You don't

1201
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: want to do that? I would bet you it's We

1202
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: don't know for sure because Matt Eberflus is no longer

1203
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: the coach here, But based on what they've done in

1204
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: past years, I would bet he would be Shan Lee's

1205
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: understudy and they would cross train him at all three

1206
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: positions to be the next guy up for any longer.

1207
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: And we talk about every time these guys this position

1208
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: flex and what is it got us? We have forty

1209
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: eight star forty eight games with Byron Jones, and we

1210
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: haven't figured out where to play him yet, have we?

1211
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: I could think Smith's not We're not. They're not gonna

1212
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: have that problem. Roguan Smith can play the mic, he

1213
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: can play the will. We can get too caught up

1214
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: in the left end, right And no, no, I'm just

1215
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: trying to play him his best position. To your point, Ideally,

1216
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend the first round pick on

1217
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: a linebacker either because of what you just said, which

1218
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: is why I'd like to trade up. He I didn't

1219
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: say that Dane would. Yeah, I trust him too. I

1220
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: would much rather spend money on a free agent a

1221
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: band aid to be your insurance policy than draft a

1222
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: guy in the first round band aid at linebacker or

1223
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: band aid at guard. I'd rather have the band aid

1224
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: at guard because you've got more talent around you to

1225
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: help him. Whereas An I mean, if you draft Roquan Smith,

1226
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean you need to think about moving on from

1227
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: Shan Lee at some point anyway, so you're drafting him

1228
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: to be your will of the future. Chance that he

1229
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: won't start Quan Smith, absolutely, there's a chance, although a

1230
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: chance he won't start. Absolutely Ideally you probably don't want

1231
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: him to start right away unless which that's another conversation.

1232
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean, put him on the field. There's every well,

1233
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: your scheme whatever, I don't care. Put him on the field.

1234
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: He's one of your There are not eleven better defensive

1235
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: players on your roster. I don't care. Play him wherever

1236
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: you have to play him to get him on the field.

1237
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: There's every Hey, you could draft Roquan Smith and start

1238
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: him at the mic and let Jalen be your guy

1239
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: because he for all, he doesn't need to be out

1240
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: there for sixty snaps. Anyway, we learned that last year

1241
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: or point. Be careful. We've done a good, nice job though. Hey,

1242
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: and I think he will improve. Trainers, everybody's done a

1243
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: great job. I think he will improve and give them credit. No, absolutely,

1244
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: he I think he will improve, evaluate better and free

1245
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: agency and get that guy at left guard that frees

1246
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: up a lot of options on draft day. You guys commit.

1247
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: I agree with Dane. Dane and I are the common

1248
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: sense on this show, and you're just a madman trying

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Speaker 1: to stir the pot. Yeah, thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: joining the Draft show this week. Appreciate everybody out there.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your Presidence Day. We'll be back with your Thursday

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Speaker 1: at eleven a m. Central. We'll have some more discussions.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully these guys won't quit and go to another club

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Speaker 1: before you have a chance, but that never Yeah, Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us Danburg with David Helman, Kate Garrison. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next Thursday. Thank you had the