Speaker 1: Guess what decision We're about to make. Horrible decision.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, Before we start this week's episode, we want
Speaker 2: to let you know that we have a live show Tuesday,
Speaker 2: December third, at Sony Hall.
Speaker 3: As you can see Missy Elliott here, we'll be doing
Speaker 3: a dance.
Speaker 1: Wow, bro, don't do that.
Speaker 2: You such a motherfucker. Hate the whole do the ad
Speaker 2: tell them one night only?
Speaker 1: Sorry? What? No? We even that? No, God damn it.
Speaker 1: We can't do shit around here, Sony. Come see us
Speaker 1: December third. George will open at six, show starts at eight,
Speaker 1: and it is unlike any show you've ever seen. So
Speaker 1: come spend one night with Mandy and Weezy. I don't
Speaker 1: like this, you said it like that. Y'all don't really
Speaker 1: get to spend a night with us. But between APM
Speaker 1: and about ten pm you gott us. Make sure you
Speaker 1: click the link in our bio on our Instagram and
Speaker 1: get your tickets. Now.
Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing you, guys, and y'all welcome. Welcome, Bibby. No,
Speaker 2: I couldn't do the little I can't do the accent.
Speaker 2: It's not okay, okay, y'all. We welcome to the Horrible decision.
Speaker 1: That was how you sounded when we recorded it. Don't
Speaker 1: do that, bitch.
Speaker 2: I am your girl, Mandy b aka method Man, d
Speaker 2: aka that Peach.
Speaker 1: I'm weasy, y'all, and I'm also ashamed. On the episode
Speaker 1: of four, I want to just get it off at
Speaker 1: the top. Go ahead, so you don't drag me for
Speaker 1: it and bring it out. Fine, we have a guest.
Speaker 1: We normally bring people back. I feel like betweeny years
Speaker 1: or two, but it's been seven years seven years laterle well, no,
Speaker 1: we're eight. We are eight years in a difference of age.
Speaker 1: I was twenty five and we recorded that. Now I'm
Speaker 1: thirty three. Wow have we been around eight years? Were
Speaker 1: episode thirty? Y'all? We have wrote Timmy in the building
Speaker 1: for this episode scotch aka Big Daddy long deck. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've been.
Speaker 3: To too many night dream ready now I know what
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm ashamed because there's a few clips so
Speaker 1: we were we got video because we're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: re Tammy's coming.
Speaker 3: You know, bitch just couldn't afford shit back then.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like you.
Speaker 2: I think we're one of our first guests where we
Speaker 2: even brought in a camera, and we didn't even post
Speaker 2: the whole episode.
Speaker 3: We just probably didn't have enough footage on the.
Speaker 4: Thing, like before the curve, like doing like video.
Speaker 2: We brought video on for like when we had guests,
Speaker 2: So I think you and King Nowir may have been
Speaker 2: the only people.
Speaker 1: He was like, we could pay the fifty dollars extra
Speaker 1: books and one of the videos, I make a comment
Speaker 1: about why I had to leave Florida, which wasn't true.
Speaker 1: Oh no, let's run that back. Ain't inswered that thing, right, yo, bitch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I had to move to New York. I
Speaker 1: fucked down the whole Florida. Like the whole Jamaican team
Speaker 1: just was like, it's time for you to go. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like once, see what happens is once you started fucking
Speaker 1: island niggascause you know they got baby mamas. One comes
Speaker 1: for you, then the second and third. And at one
Speaker 1: point I was scared to go to the mall and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you remember her saying it. She
Speaker 1: said she had because she fucked the whole state down,
Speaker 1: just busted open.
Speaker 3: Now I'm wearing a blouse and I am a new woman.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember.
Speaker 2: What though, because When we first had you on here,
Speaker 2: you were you were Drey on power h you did?
Speaker 1: You were uh single with no children? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: And now you are a father and a hoosebun. So crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm really what are we just? Richard? That's about it?
Speaker 1: You know what's probably something just to like skinny bitch
Speaker 1: hold on now. We definitely got one really cute sweet
Speaker 1: thing between us.
Speaker 3: That happened.
Speaker 1: You were talking about Rein recognized a lot, and you
Speaker 1: and I were joking like, oh my god, someone took
Speaker 1: a picture with us.
Speaker 3: Yesterday, and it's crazy, bro, Like, yeah, now.
Speaker 4: You feel about fame now? Like, how are you guys
Speaker 4: dealing with fame?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: It's two successful, beautiful women. What is it now that
Speaker 4: from the like what do you learn about yourself?
Speaker 1: Now? The way that we were asking you about groopies
Speaker 1: and I literally fun girls that listen to She like fans.
Speaker 3: She don't like that?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: You do like that? Like that? I like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to fan. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, have you come down? No? I didn't. I
Speaker 1: made out with Want of the sex club, but that's
Speaker 1: not you made out with that one girl after that
Speaker 1: DC show. I'm making out is not fucking bro and
Speaker 1: it be on accident. Okay, so you don't you did
Speaker 1: it by accident? Because question because when you at the club,
Speaker 1: the club and you got bottles and you lit in
Speaker 1: the bitches of turk and bending over, you just come
Speaker 1: out and it just happened. It just happened. You did
Speaker 1: that or she did that one of the other. I
Speaker 1: didn't know you, I know.
Speaker 3: Mandy regretted in her that no because she was cute.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't make a sense. Can't listen to that.
Speaker 1: I regret. Literally right after it happened, Mandy leans over
Speaker 1: to Vinie and I who, oh my god, made out? God,
Speaker 1: So this is why I stopped drinking. Yeah, you see
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's the decision making that was happening under the influence.
Speaker 3: Well what else has been different?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? So she she she went and listened back
Speaker 1: to our episode.
Speaker 2: If you guys have not checked it out, it's episode
Speaker 2: thirty and we are now on episode almost four hundred.
Speaker 1: Just so you can also think about that. Is that
Speaker 1: not crazy?
Speaker 2: So so she went back and listened because she wanted
Speaker 2: to see if we had changed any of our thoughts
Speaker 2: from eight years ago.
Speaker 1: So she did pull some of the shit you said.
Speaker 3: Now, Rosini said he had never been to a sex party.
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's still true. No, you've been to a
Speaker 1: sex party since then? What you do? Because you were
Speaker 1: asking us, like, what do you I didn't know. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, that's what I was going to.
Speaker 4: Oh yea wait, wait, swet, No, I didn't know. Okay.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a ditty party.
Speaker 2: I feel like how people were started in court. Oh no,
Speaker 2: we could bleep the name out.
Speaker 1: I bet you was Jamie fox House.
Speaker 3: But wait, was it just a party that turned into set?
Speaker 4: It was a party that, like if you're downstairs chilling,
Speaker 4: everybody's kicking and kicking, and then when like when you
Speaker 4: change the music and like it gets quiet for a second,
Speaker 4: you can't hear what's going on upstairs.
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's like mad situations happening. Somebody is this
Speaker 4: about forty five minutes, this whole thing gonna turn into that?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 4: I said, Oh Jesus Christ, Okay, but you say, didn't
Speaker 4: you say? I mean, look, you wanted to see it
Speaker 4: started at forty five. I left that in forty seven.
Speaker 2: What made you want to leave, Like what did you see?
Speaker 2: Was there anything that was like oh shit, this is wild?
Speaker 1: Like what we were there?
Speaker 3: Other famous people there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was other things, and it was just one
Speaker 4: of those things where was like, oh, man, I don't
Speaker 4: know what's going on. I don't know what the vibe is.
Speaker 4: This is this what Hollywood is like?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: This was like maybe a year after I had that interview,
Speaker 4: so I was still kind of just like young. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was like yo, what's going on? So I just
Speaker 4: didn't feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: Glad you didn't didn't go. I think since I've been
Speaker 1: working in Hollywood at a different capacity, I see how
Speaker 1: much they take advantage of young men almost just as
Speaker 1: much as women, like in a very like sneaky we're
Speaker 1: gonna put you in this, we're gonna do this, or
Speaker 1: just come here, or like you realize you gotta be
Speaker 1: cool with this director to get like very weird.
Speaker 4: I mean, especially like you know, for young actors, young artists. Man,
Speaker 4: if you don't make certain decisions, you don't go fast.
Speaker 4: I've been offered so much that I just stood on
Speaker 4: my morals and I was like, now I'm a grind and
Speaker 4: trust god, I love that. So It's just it's a
Speaker 4: crazy world, man. So like being a part of that
Speaker 4: and seeing so much of how the industry works, It's
Speaker 4: like it made me just say, no, let me start
Speaker 4: my own ship, you know, let me just let.
Speaker 1: You throw your own sex. Is that like movement direct
Speaker 1: yourt I've done that. I'm talk.
Speaker 2: What else did we pull anything else he said from
Speaker 2: that episode? Or was that the only thing?
Speaker 1: Okay? So I said I wouldn't mind having a sister
Speaker 1: wife if we needed more income for the children. I
Speaker 1: changed my mind. I started giving money. Mandy said she
Speaker 1: didn't know how to put a condom on a dick.
Speaker 1: I feel what everything is wrong? No? Fuck no, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, here you go and mind you. I have
Speaker 1: different ones.
Speaker 2: I say this all the time, and I'm sure certain
Speaker 2: of my partners when I was having sex probably judge
Speaker 2: me a little bit. Why I'm a month into my
Speaker 2: cell of this, but no, like I have tucked between
Speaker 2: my books in my living room, so the books, because
Speaker 2: I don't want just condoms out, so I took them
Speaker 2: so then I could just lean off the couch and
Speaker 2: grab a condom.
Speaker 1: If we start on the couch, then I.
Speaker 2: Have them also in the drawer, and oh, I have
Speaker 2: them stashed around my house. So then I also have
Speaker 2: some in my kitchen, so they're in my They're in
Speaker 2: my middle drawer in my kitchen, right by my stove.
Speaker 2: And that's a case he come up behind me and
Speaker 2: might want to slide it in. I could just open
Speaker 2: the door. He could put it on there.
Speaker 1: You use a kitchen condom, Well, so what happens.
Speaker 2: I normally grab those if I'm making our drinks to
Speaker 2: then just bring them so I don't have to lean
Speaker 2: over on the couch. Oh, they're everywhere calculated, it's calculated.
Speaker 2: And then and then it's really bad because now I
Speaker 2: got this little light. I bought this little light. They
Speaker 2: said it helped you go to sleep easier. But it's red.
Speaker 1: So now I realize when I put it on, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm giving a red light special a whore, but
Speaker 1: it's really a sleep light.
Speaker 2: And then I have condoms in my lowest drawer in
Speaker 2: my bedroom. That's where also the lubin toys are. And
Speaker 2: then I have them under this cushion right by my
Speaker 2: bed as well. So there's four spots in my house
Speaker 2: with conda.
Speaker 1: So what do you do if it happens in the car.
Speaker 2: Luckily because we're well, honestly, we're in New York. They
Speaker 2: don't really be in their car Ubers.
Speaker 1: So did you just say butter Scott? But yeah no.
Speaker 2: So I still do not know how to put a
Speaker 2: kind of on a dick, but I do just be like,
Speaker 2: here you go.
Speaker 1: That was so crazy when I heard. I was like,
Speaker 1: in the still damn in seven years? One thing you said?
Speaker 1: You said, I stay away from industry girls. It's not
Speaker 1: my thing. Wow, and you married one. Well yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so what what? What? Well? To me, industry is like okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I realize when we say industry, you're like, oh, somebody
Speaker 1: be in the street. It's always out.
Speaker 3: The industry to me is someone famous.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, I stayed away as long as I possibly could.
Speaker 4: But I met her when she was in a space
Speaker 4: where she was like, yo, I'm done with the industry.
Speaker 1: I just want to just retire. I want to do
Speaker 1: something different. So I'm trying to get that.
Speaker 3: Do you think that that that helps?
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, knowing you from your friendship, I
Speaker 1: don't take you as a guy who's insecure.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't like celebrate a woman, you know, doing her thing.
Speaker 1: But do you think it helped you being that you
Speaker 1: both weren't busy and on the go or.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, not because of like not trusting her, but
Speaker 4: more so just like just scheduling. That's a monster for
Speaker 4: me to be shooting the movie work and her doing this.
Speaker 4: It's hard because schedules.
Speaker 1: Don't Yeah, yeah, something like that. So you know what
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things where it's like we now
Speaker 4: knowing that she just wants to be an entrepreneur once
Speaker 4: she loves her favorite thing is being a mom, so
Speaker 4: like that is where she's at. So it's like it
Speaker 4: works out perfectly, you know, for what it is. But
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have been feeling the
Speaker 4: same initially if she was like, I'm trying to do
Speaker 4: all of this, all this artist I want to because it's
Speaker 4: just scheduling, and she was living in Tanzania, so it
Speaker 4: was already long distance at the time, that.
Speaker 1: Really really long distance. No way.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you both met, so twenty nine?
Speaker 1: Okay? See that Also, I wonder if that has to
Speaker 1: do with it being at the age where you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm ready for family, I'm ready to be a dad,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to be your husband. Like, do you think
Speaker 1: if you met her the day you did that Horrible
Speaker 1: Decisions interview? You might have sucked it up? Absolutely? I was.
Speaker 1: I was in the streets. Yeah, sorry, my man. Eight
Speaker 1: years ago. You took the glasses off. My man. You
Speaker 1: know you were red carpet party. You was gonna be there. Man,
Speaker 1: you was at church. That's what I meant when I
Speaker 1: said that you was outside the pew. I was praying. No,
Speaker 1: it was on the knees praying. It was on their knees,
Speaker 1: on their knees, praying for me. They sure was was today.
Speaker 1: They wash.
Speaker 3: Every time about That is crazy.
Speaker 1: That is awful. You gotta stop doing that because I
Speaker 1: don't know what about the religious people? What do we
Speaker 1: interview that said? That was it? Mister Marcus. He was like,
Speaker 1: why are these girls? And we started yeah. Got was like, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: don't bring him in say the same ship. No, I
Speaker 1: don't you know. I'll be saying their names even you
Speaker 1: even't messed up the name like el I.
Speaker 2: Ain't ever mess up the name. I gotta look at them.
Speaker 2: I'll be happy to think about it real quick.
Speaker 4: Registers, Sean got it, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: No, I like. I like. I like saying the name okay,
Speaker 1: saying the name is hot also saying making them say
Speaker 1: your name is hotter, tell you like it. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like, yeah you Bett start talking,
Speaker 1: that's fine. All that deep breath. Another thing I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you. So, like when we interviewed you,
Speaker 1: we were talking about Greenby Tales. We were super excited
Speaker 1: about that, but mainly because like two people, it's funny
Speaker 1: Drey and dro We interviewed friends that had just had
Speaker 1: big parts on shows. Ye did it get worse when
Speaker 1: you started singing? Because I remember the first time I
Speaker 1: was singing one of your songs, what was the song
Speaker 1: not bed? And I was like, in my bed didn't
Speaker 1: come out? Then? No, No, we were talking about songs
Speaker 1: we like from but when I typed it in my
Speaker 1: phone and I saw your name, I was like, there's
Speaker 1: no way or maybe I shamed it, and I got
Speaker 1: really excited and like whoa you know, because because.
Speaker 2: You did start singing while you were still actively portraying Drake,
Speaker 2: so it was both, but you didn't get the same
Speaker 2: girls or attention from acting as you did music.
Speaker 1: Now, it is something about music that moved people.
Speaker 3: We've seen you with your shirt off online.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Every time I start the shaving room,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, wow, I literally lost your new music
Speaker 1: video for the new song I Love You some of you,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what is this? You were in the
Speaker 1: opposite of those INMPIC that I was like, whoa you changed?
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, I want to know how difficult was it,
Speaker 1: because I've heard from friends that recently got engaged or
Speaker 1: married girls beyond them more. Absolutely, really disrespectful because you
Speaker 1: you know, because you're talking about the man.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know what you're saying about that, about
Speaker 4: that crazy?
Speaker 1: What are you saying about mething man? Nothing, We're not
Speaker 1: going to do that. You're respecting that man's marriage.
Speaker 2: I am not I thought, I am celibate, I don't
Speaker 2: drink and I don't marry man.
Speaker 1: How anything's changed from episode that isy? That is crazy? Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, So yeah, what did it get sneakier
Speaker 1: or do you feel like people were just attracted to
Speaker 1: the fact that you were unavailable?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a mix, a mixture of everything, right, So
Speaker 4: like the fact that it's like I'm actually asked when
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, you wasn't checking, so now you're checking.
Speaker 1: What's changed.
Speaker 4: She's like not the fact that you kept a woman
Speaker 4: happy for so long, Like, you must got something.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find out. And so when I heard that,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, it's really a thing. So like I
Speaker 4: think this because your wife looked good?
Speaker 1: Well, No, I think also I think women get very
Speaker 1: women want people that I think people do, though you
Speaker 1: think people do. Yeah, men look at women and be
Speaker 1: like damn, like I want that. What is it? You know?
Speaker 3: I've been dry And the second I had I'm like.
Speaker 2: That's why old boy got in Cardiot eight months. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, he was like, damn, I'm goinna, go ahead
Speaker 2: and get in.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm just allegedly that's what happened. That's why
Speaker 1: he got in Cardia eight months. Oh my god, what
Speaker 1: is the problem or something? Why is that crazy?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I do think that that women, and oftentimes, even if
Speaker 2: we bring this to social media, right when you do
Speaker 2: post how happy you are in a relationship. When you're
Speaker 2: constantly posting your girlfriend or your wife or your partner,
Speaker 2: a lot of women who may not be getting that treatment.
Speaker 2: I want to want DIBs or you appear more like
Speaker 2: a really dope guy and now you become more trial.
Speaker 3: He's a family man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a fantasy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, I think for me, it's like, damn, he's able
Speaker 4: to balance this, this, this, this and have that.
Speaker 2: And I also think it's misery loves company, because I
Speaker 2: do think women will look at that and be like,
Speaker 2: I bet you cheating ass nigga still And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: sit here and prude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: That's my great scare. I hope a bit's never come.
Speaker 1: Don't come.
Speaker 2: That's why don't don't. Don't post your niggad. That's it crazy.
Speaker 1: You know, I get the feet. I'll let him get
Speaker 1: the feet, and that get that little Africa tattoo on
Speaker 1: the hand. That's it. Nobody what you looked like? No, oh,
Speaker 1: you'll keep it that way. They swipe on dating apps,
Speaker 1: they do. We're all on the sex one. They know
Speaker 1: which one that is.
Speaker 3: I will say this.
Speaker 1: I realized that sometimes gloating about happiness, which you you know,
Speaker 1: when you're really excited about something you want to share,
Speaker 1: whether it be a new project, whatever, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they want to like fucking take you down and prove
Speaker 1: to you that it's not gonna happen like that. For me,
Speaker 1: more so, the posting is because like I have a
Speaker 1: lot of follow and wanted someone to say I just
Speaker 1: don't want to hear anything or even if someone comes
Speaker 1: out the woodworks, like I don't give a fuck what.
Speaker 2: There're a conversation with you and your wife about becoming open.
Speaker 1: On social media. Yeah, when did you have there been
Speaker 1: also any issues that social media has brought to the relationship.
Speaker 4: So we were our initial plan was to keep everything low,
Speaker 4: but then Shae Room was the first one that put
Speaker 4: everything together. They put like my hand in her leg
Speaker 4: and then we was in the same background, so they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: Timmy's dating superstar and that's so it was like dang,
Speaker 4: it's like it's already out and we're both super spiritual.
Speaker 1: So it was like, maybe our calling.
Speaker 4: Is just to show that good marriage is and good
Speaker 4: relationships and be an example you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like you can be lit, you can still be a
Speaker 4: fly nigga. You could be a beautiful woman and still
Speaker 4: be doing what you need to do and be an
Speaker 4: example of what black love looked like.
Speaker 1: I was something a little bit contrary to say, as
Speaker 1: a light skinned girl. I really when I saw your wife,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, he's an African girl. When you
Speaker 1: see dudes get famous, they just state the same yeah,
Speaker 1: Barbie Kardashian girl, I was like, WHOA. And I just
Speaker 1: don't see that really often, where like somebody famous, not
Speaker 1: only are the dating to someone who's darkening them, but
Speaker 1: somebody that's like just not the carbon copy. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: obviously gorgeous, but people have such an idea of what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to look like when you start popping off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that was the first thing that came
Speaker 1: to my head, was like wow. And I think it
Speaker 1: also feels really good for women to see. Just think
Speaker 1: about how dudes be talking about how we angry, Like
Speaker 1: the Kevin Samuels Eskue stuff about women being angry about
Speaker 1: seeing other women with men. I don't think it's that.
Speaker 1: I think it's just them constantly seeing black men shoes
Speaker 1: women that aren't black, that are Latina, or that date
Speaker 1: the same girl. So I do think it's really powerful
Speaker 1: for you to be Nigerian dating it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if tons it is howhould.
Speaker 4: Say, but also the cool thing too, like the way
Speaker 4: I think from what you're saying as well, I agree
Speaker 4: with you. The way I think is what I applied
Speaker 4: my music to be too this go around. You know,
Speaker 4: I wanted it to be like there's no form of beauty,
Speaker 4: like there's no looking like this, sounding like this, moving
Speaker 4: like this. No, it's more so about this all type
Speaker 4: of color sizes, even the videos I choose. I have
Speaker 4: big girls, girls with videlaigo, all that all different normal,
Speaker 4: there's no every because we so basically we shot a
Speaker 4: music video for every one of my mind. We'll talk
Speaker 4: about it l but every.
Speaker 1: One of my We shot it for every every every video,
Speaker 1: every video, every song, no, every song.
Speaker 4: And I was like, yo, I don't want the carbon copy.
Speaker 4: I don't want the typical looking girl like I want
Speaker 4: video girl. I want different forms of beauty like that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so it'll be just
Speaker 4: like a chocolate girl, this and this, this big girl.
Speaker 4: So everything was just organically what it is. So I'm
Speaker 4: making music for those type of things.
Speaker 1: You're real easy to say when your wife looked like
Speaker 1: that beauty okay, everybody, Okay, So I actually picked this
Speaker 1: specifically for you. There is a girl I want to
Speaker 1: name her. We were going to have her on in London.
Speaker 1: But this is a clip from emails Sunflower. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah Flower. So this is specifically about marriage and sex work.
Speaker 1: And I felt like, oh god, yes, this would be
Speaker 1: perfect for you to answer, because maybe and I could
Speaker 1: debate this, but you know, it'd be perfect for you
Speaker 1: to hear.
Speaker 6: Okay, And this is going to be very controversial to
Speaker 6: say marriage also is sex work because a lot of women,
Speaker 6: what they're doing is women engage in marriage from a
Speaker 6: place where Okay, he's gonna ideally, he's going to take
Speaker 6: care of you financially, and there's a hope for people
Speaker 6: to live in. What you are doing is you're fulfilling
Speaker 6: a role. So you're going to either be some sort
Speaker 6: of like homemaker, homekeeper, you're raising and rearing the kids.
Speaker 6: You are partnering with him and sleeping with him in
Speaker 6: the hopes that the trade off will be that you'll
Speaker 6: get validation, love and upkeep, and the man understands and
Speaker 6: believes that if he continues to fill that role for you.
Speaker 1: Then the arrangement works. Because marriage is an arrangement.
Speaker 6: Now, why I say this prostitution is because whilst it's
Speaker 6: not necessarily on the surface you're fucking for a transaction
Speaker 6: or exchange, there's something that you're fucking.
Speaker 1: For, something that you're fucking for. That was from the
Speaker 1: slum Flower crowd on ig she's at a dope podcast
Speaker 1: to the slum Flower Hour, but yeah, she's also an author.
Speaker 1: But she said that, and I was like, and the
Speaker 1: Internet went a blaze. Now is there anything you heard
Speaker 1: in there that you thought I can see why she
Speaker 1: said that.
Speaker 4: Like the last part. No, The first part of what
Speaker 4: she was saying was the no, no, no prostitutions. She
Speaker 4: started by saying sex worker.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because your intenna I saw went up when
Speaker 2: she used the word prostitute, which they're the same thing,
Speaker 2: like sex worker prostitution A good point.
Speaker 1: We don't you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't think you like the word. But when she
Speaker 2: started by saying, you know, it's a sex like you're
Speaker 2: a sex.
Speaker 4: Easier on the ears, it's easier on the it's easy
Speaker 4: on the ears. And you're willing to listen to why
Speaker 4: she's saying that.
Speaker 1: Because as soon as she said prostitutions, right, there are
Speaker 1: certain words you know, why because sex worker can be anything.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's stripper. People say we do sex work by
Speaker 1: talking about sex ed prostitution. I think about literally streetwalk dollar,
Speaker 1: I'm pulling the car. Car.
Speaker 2: But now she did say that though, she said there
Speaker 2: is a financial exchange in marriage, especially when a woman
Speaker 2: is expected to be a specific role person in the house,
Speaker 2: a homemaker, a mother, take care of the house in
Speaker 2: exchange for you, the husband.
Speaker 1: And she used the keyword I always say that sex
Speaker 1: work is transactional. She called a marriage transactional. Do you
Speaker 1: believe that marriage is transactional.
Speaker 4: No, I think it's a it's a compromise. It's not transactional.
Speaker 1: And we talked about the movie said marriage is a
Speaker 1: compromise this week.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think everything is transactional. Everything, even
Speaker 4: everything is transaction. So I don't think we highlight transaction.
Speaker 4: You can't just leave it to one thing like you
Speaker 4: being me being here, you guys being here. It's a
Speaker 4: transactional thing, right, not a bad thing. It wins works
Speaker 4: for everyone. So everything is transaction. But in terms of
Speaker 4: a marriage, when youocus it on yo, if you do this,
Speaker 4: I do this, it's not like that. It's more of
Speaker 4: I do this because I love you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people in the comments that she wanted to do
Speaker 1: this or say this because this is what single women.
Speaker 3: They try to drag down marriage things like that.
Speaker 1: I agree, you do. I agree.
Speaker 4: I think it's a perspective to just kind of like
Speaker 4: taint the idea in marriage, you know.
Speaker 1: But like I mean, I have other ways and reasons
Speaker 1: why I taint marriage and why I don't believe in it.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just because the construct of marriage
Speaker 1: actually was not based on love at all. It was
Speaker 1: based on a financial gain or a partnership created in
Speaker 1: order for a woman to have a roof over her head,
Speaker 1: or be able to open a bank account, or to
Speaker 1: be able to kind of exist in a society that
Speaker 1: didn't allow women really to live a life of independence.
Speaker 1: And I mean, even if we look at other traditions
Speaker 1: and places in the world, a lot of it was
Speaker 1: set up by your family, and that was for means
Speaker 1: of wealth or to stay with a certain social class.
Speaker 1: For people choose each other today, I think, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do.
Speaker 2: But I think that that's the interesting part about this though,
Speaker 2: is if we bring in the concept of sex being
Speaker 2: in exchange for something, which I think is why prostitution
Speaker 2: got out came about because she even said, your wife
Speaker 2: has sex with you because now she has to do
Speaker 2: that in exchange for.
Speaker 1: It's not a good relationship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: A happy relationship is somebody that wants to do that.
Speaker 1: I agree. That means I'm a prostitute. Then in the
Speaker 1: relationships we see your listen, you know why this really
Speaker 1: struck home for me so over the years on Horrible,
Speaker 1: I always talk about my parents being a great example
Speaker 1: of a happy marriage. This to me, when knowing that,
Speaker 1: like the sex becomes a transactional thing I recently saw
Speaker 1: when my dad's health took a term.
Speaker 3: My dad's in a whelchair now when.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they haven't sucked in a few years.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I ain't asking, and I know, and
Speaker 3: I see.
Speaker 1: The dynamics change, the love change, and I think, when
Speaker 1: you have that much love and adoration for somebody, you
Speaker 1: stick it out till the end. Absolutely so. Now he's
Speaker 1: in his eighties, my mom's in his seventies, and I'm
Speaker 1: watching it in real time. To me, that's the largest
Speaker 1: different with difference with marriages, the commitment to do it
Speaker 1: through whatever exactly you know when your body changes, when
Speaker 1: you're old whatever. And like with sex in particular, there's
Speaker 1: so many to people we've had on this podcast, even
Speaker 1: talking about things like five words and shit like that,
Speaker 1: if you can't fuck for a few months, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Black women forty just thinking that sex
Speaker 1: is all marriage is or the exchange that they need
Speaker 1: is sometimes pretty sad because I agree. I think that
Speaker 1: the housewife ideation of it. Sometimes women have acted like
Speaker 1: maybe they're better than anyone else. I think that is
Speaker 1: where comments like this can derive from. Married women tend
Speaker 1: to act better than women that are single, and a
Speaker 1: lot of times those married women are.
Speaker 3: Happy when these single girls chose to leave somebody.
Speaker 1: But I still firmly believe marriage can be filled with
Speaker 1: happiness and honesty and trust. It is.
Speaker 4: I'm living it, though, but I'm living it. So the
Speaker 4: thing about it too is right, Like the way you
Speaker 4: describe marriage is the law, what they made that law.
Speaker 4: There's a difference between that and a kingdom marriage, which
Speaker 4: is biblical, and a biblical marriage is basically even Adam
Speaker 4: and Eve where she came from his rib that was
Speaker 4: his wife, you know what I'm saying, And that's that's.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying. Listen ahead.
Speaker 1: So when you have what.
Speaker 4: It is from the Bible standpoint, a woman is support
Speaker 4: the man is. It's basically the exchange. The transactional exchange
Speaker 4: is husbands love your wives, your wives respect your husband.
Speaker 4: That's the transaction. That's the only transaction. So when we
Speaker 4: do all these other things is the law, Yes, you're right,
Speaker 4: you're not wrong, because the law is let's make some
Speaker 4: money off people. That's what the law is. But when
Speaker 4: you get married under God and the spiritual way, there
Speaker 4: is no You become selfless. Everything you do to have
Speaker 4: a successful relationship, everything you do is for that other person.
Speaker 4: So you're not even thinking for a transaction. I think
Speaker 4: you're thinking of, oh what can I do. When I'm
Speaker 4: speaking to ogs, they're like, yo, bro, be as selfless
Speaker 4: as possible, because if she's that way and you're that way,
Speaker 4: you're always going to be good.
Speaker 1: Besides, God, tell me why you wanted to get married.
Speaker 1: Because I had a conversation with my partner about this.
Speaker 1: You know, not opposed to marriage at all. We talk
Speaker 1: about you know, children, family dynamics. But he's like, why
Speaker 1: do you want it. None of this this has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with other people. You don't feel pressured, what
Speaker 1: makes you want it? I just want to know your
Speaker 1: answer because as a man, I feel like men are
Speaker 1: always pushed my ring. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I think because she didn't push me. I think it
Speaker 4: was just like, oh, this is right. If she would
Speaker 4: have pushed me, then it probably would have been a
Speaker 4: different outcome. It would have been like, what's this, why
Speaker 4: you're doing why you're forcing this? It's just everything in
Speaker 4: our relationship was a natural transition.
Speaker 1: Why marriage over long term commitment?
Speaker 4: Though again it's it was just led by the spirit. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I can't I can't tell you like, oh the right
Speaker 4: thing is?
Speaker 1: Were you in this choice? Yes?
Speaker 2: Completely, we had we we recently had a dating coach
Speaker 2: on and so I would just like to know the
Speaker 2: timeline that this took place in terms of your relationship.
Speaker 1: So can you let us know about put that's fine?
Speaker 2: Can can you let us know how long it took
Speaker 2: you to propose? How long were y'll dating before you popped?
Speaker 1: About a year and a half? Two years? And was wrong?
Speaker 1: Was he said six months? Committed relationship? How long How
Speaker 1: long were y'all dating? Before getting into your relationship, before
Speaker 1: you said you be my girlfriend. That's is different because
Speaker 1: she was all the way in another country. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to girl. That means it is a
Speaker 1: real good time.
Speaker 4: But okay, so we started. Okay, I'll give you the breakdown.
Speaker 4: So we met in July of twenty and nineteen. Okay,
Speaker 4: and so it was essence, fast, kicked it, talked, and
Speaker 4: then she went back to Tanzania and then she came
Speaker 4: and visited me in August.
Speaker 1: Oh, also six months in between no no, no July and
Speaker 1: July and August. August.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she came back. She was like, look, I'm I
Speaker 4: want to see you.
Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, she was like let's go. Let's go. Ask
Speaker 1: me why I'm trying to get you. See that she
Speaker 1: got that money. Let me tell you how she got that.
Speaker 4: That was the best investment she ever did. Come on,
Speaker 4: he said, I got that two thousand plus. She was like,
Speaker 4: look I got it, I got it. And she was
Speaker 4: like she came. She had like three four shows set
Speaker 4: up and she was like, I don't feel like leaving no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no elsewhere elsewhere She lost money to come see me.
Speaker 1: Okay, girl, now now you do it. On she married.
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, she must have seen it. Was it
Speaker 1: in a picture? And she said, oh yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: why she got on a plane. Yeah, okay, it had
Speaker 1: to be something. It couldn't have been no offense person
Speaker 1: not alone. How long did how long did she stay
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 4: So she was supposed to come by for like five days, okay,
Speaker 4: but then it started she was like, no, I don't
Speaker 4: want to leave. So she was like, let me call
Speaker 4: my manager. She canceled that show another two days, canceled
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 1: A prison man, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: She canceled three four shows that stayed about two and
Speaker 4: two and a half weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 1: Now, I want to ask you something one of my
Speaker 1: friends said to me years ago. A guy like dropped
Speaker 1: off something at my house and was doing something. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just not into this. He goes, you're
Speaker 1: not into him because if anybody else did that, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it was clean.
Speaker 3: A girl canceling shows, Yeah, wouldn't you be like?
Speaker 1: Let's what you know? What I mean? Think about it.
Speaker 1: I don't want no nigga calling off of work to
Speaker 1: fuck with me.
Speaker 3: I need right, so that would turn me off.
Speaker 1: You deserve it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you don't make your money. I would not
Speaker 2: me personally, I would no, maybe.
Speaker 3: Not you not when it's there, you wouldn't think that's fly.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I don't need that. I want to
Speaker 1: kick it with. Yeah, I was gonna say what about it?
Speaker 3: Not that I ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't calling off work like money for you.
Speaker 4: See, you see we gotta go to essence. You will
Speaker 4: when you find out what I say. A lot of
Speaker 4: women say these things until they find that guy.
Speaker 1: That changed your perspective. I promise you. I was what.
Speaker 1: I was what and he was like, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do this this that when we had waiting. I'm waiting
Speaker 1: when when I said I wasn't gonna make money for
Speaker 1: a nigga, No no, I'm not talking about money. You was
Speaker 1: talking about. These girls be doing this. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be acting like this. These girls be sticking up from
Speaker 1: the man girl nobody on the clip.
Speaker 2: I still say, I don't think you should do girlfriendship
Speaker 2: before you the girlfriend.
Speaker 1: When I was the girlfriend. Yeah, I was doing all
Speaker 1: that ship you mean okay girl? Any who get yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What were there certain things that maybe so I'm asking
Speaker 1: this because I want people to differentiate when a connection
Speaker 1: is becoming real. Were you doing anything or giving any
Speaker 1: vibe that she should stay? How do women know when
Speaker 1: they should go to extra mile? Everything you're telling me
Speaker 1: right now her effort right not saying that you were
Speaker 1: giving that ve for women in person because women be
Speaker 1: acting delusional. Clearly she wasn't because you ended up marrying.
Speaker 1: But what was going on and what vibes were you
Speaker 1: giving or things were you saying? Were you doing something
Speaker 1: different that led her to know this is it?
Speaker 4: Well, it was pretty obvious during that time that, like
Speaker 4: I was ready to kind of just stop playing around,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like stop playing around?
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I'm saying the right time? Right
Speaker 1: before she made it easy to do that.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, like you don't want anything from me,
Speaker 4: You're spiritual, you're dope, you fly as hell, everything is lit.
Speaker 4: And it just again when you know, you know, when
Speaker 4: it just feels like everything is effortless, Like it felt
Speaker 4: like speaking my opinion and my feelings was like breathing.
Speaker 4: Everything was just effortless. Wow, there was nothing that was
Speaker 4: like every thought was like yo, I feel like I
Speaker 4: feel I feel insecure right now. Anything I wanted to
Speaker 4: say about anything. It was open and honest and I
Speaker 4: never did that. I never had anything like like that before.
Speaker 4: And she was giving out and she felt the same way.
Speaker 4: So when the communications at a level where along with
Speaker 4: all the fly things about that person, nothing they do
Speaker 4: is too much, it's like you take like I want it.
Speaker 4: This person is too much, It's like, no, it changes
Speaker 4: to so much because you like it, you appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You say a word to let me know that.
Speaker 1: I was in a situation where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I heard I was easy to love, and it was
Speaker 1: such a compliment because I love you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But hearing that you're easy to love, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's like, oh the thing. And also I
Speaker 1: couldn't explain it because I feel like, as women sometimes
Speaker 1: are always so hopeful when we're dating, so you can't
Speaker 1: really explain it. You're like, oh, no, this is it.
Speaker 1: But when it does feel easy, So when it's easy,
Speaker 1: tell me this, what was your first fight? Because everything
Speaker 1: is perfect, what was the first fight over? Was it
Speaker 1: a disagreement? And was there something about that argument that
Speaker 1: you were like okay, because I'm saying I'm asking this because,
Speaker 1: for example, my first argument was very much like, oh,
Speaker 1: this ain't about to be We're going to figure this
Speaker 1: out because we are about to not date. I want
Speaker 1: to know what getting over you know, overcoming obstacles looked
Speaker 1: like when you knew it was so right in the beginning.
Speaker 4: Again, it's all about the communication, right. So the Tanzanine
Speaker 4: mindset for women is like typical mindset is like they
Speaker 4: don't say what they feel. They just do kind of
Speaker 4: like what the husband wants. That's the traditional way in Tanzaniera,
Speaker 4: most African countries.
Speaker 1: Really most non Western, Yes the world, that's a good point, yes,
Speaker 1: most non Western.
Speaker 4: So for me with that bread was small little FIBs,
Speaker 4: like not telling the truth about little things that you
Speaker 4: may feel. So for me, it was like why are
Speaker 4: you lying about this?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: And it was not like lying like oh I did this,
Speaker 4: I did. It was just like why don't you feel
Speaker 4: like your your voice is enough?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: So for me it was like, nah, I don't do that,
Speaker 4: like you're gonna tell me everything how you truly feel that,
Speaker 4: We're gonna fuck all that other way of thinking it's
Speaker 4: got a Nigerian.
Speaker 3: It ain't a scammer.
Speaker 1: What oh my god.
Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, your voice, your voice, your voice matters,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, I want to hear
Speaker 4: your thoughts, like don't lie, Like if that's not if
Speaker 4: that doesn't look good, don't make don't say this because
Speaker 4: you want your a fate of how I would feel,
Speaker 4: or you want to be supportive. Noah, if it's whack,
Speaker 4: it's white. I need you to be authentically you. And
Speaker 4: that was our first fight, like, don't bullshit, use your voice,
Speaker 4: no matter what it is, use your voice. And so
Speaker 4: when she was just like, oh, like, I don't have
Speaker 4: to do that, and so that was the That was
Speaker 4: the first time we really went out.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like men listening, because to have
Speaker 1: a woman that generally has a traditional submissive mindset, but
Speaker 1: also to be somebody that's trying to bring a quality
Speaker 1: in a relationship, like giving women some power in a
Speaker 1: relationship is very helpful and explaining it to them.
Speaker 2: It's crazy though, because it is on the other side,
Speaker 2: I've had the opposite in terms of the difficulty of
Speaker 2: men feeling like they can be truthful, like men lie
Speaker 2: about these simplest things. I just had one of those
Speaker 2: arguments with one of my boots. But I'm not having sex.
Speaker 1: He's just talking. He's just a boot, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: He made me feel special and I literally like was like,
Speaker 2: why do you constantly have to lie?
Speaker 1: Like and I've caught him and lives. It was the
Speaker 1: same with my ex.
Speaker 2: And there's so many women that I do know, my friends,
Speaker 2: my peers when I have these conversations that also would
Speaker 2: like their partners to feel like they could just be honest.
Speaker 1: What what are you hanging with? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But you and he's wrong? But do women make it
Speaker 4: a safe place?
Speaker 2: And so that's the thing though men constantly feel like
Speaker 2: man women in general can't handle the truth, and I
Speaker 2: think that's cap I think there are a lot of
Speaker 2: kind of thing it is. I think there are a
Speaker 2: lot of women who actually can't handle the truth. And
Speaker 2: we literally just want you to be honest. At least
Speaker 2: give us the choice, right, give us the choice if
Speaker 2: we're gonna be upset, allow us to be upset, but
Speaker 2: come to us and let's work it through instead of
Speaker 2: me finding.
Speaker 1: Out through whatever other means. And I think that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Men just have this innate belief that women can't handle
Speaker 2: their truth. Like as a man, if you are non monogamus,
Speaker 2: tell me you feel like you need to go get
Speaker 2: some extra pussy. Tell me if you wanted to hang
Speaker 2: out with an old high school friend that happens to
Speaker 2: be a woman instead of going out with your homeboys.
Speaker 3: Tell me, because it'd be a basic lie.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's real base. I tried to.
Speaker 3: Write down something my homegirl said, but it was such
Speaker 3: a good quote.
Speaker 1: I was on the phone her. I said, I got
Speaker 1: to write this down. But basically we dated a dude,
Speaker 1: the same dude, and we were laughing about him.
Speaker 3: A year later. I'm like, gir he just lied.
Speaker 1: He don't no better. And she was like, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he didn't just lie. He made me think I couldn't
Speaker 1: trust my own intuition, my own soul, my own spirit,
Speaker 1: everything about me. He was forcing me to feel anxious
Speaker 1: about what my own body was telling me. She said,
Speaker 1: he really let me have no autonomy over my own
Speaker 1: thoughts in trying to make me feel delusional, to convince
Speaker 1: me the sky was green, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it is a hue of ground. That's how much
Speaker 1: these niggas well, why do you to work? You a prison? No?
Speaker 2: That was my egg, Like I would really be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I know you ain't got a job, but yeah, you
Speaker 2: gotta go to Panama for suit.
Speaker 1: Yeah you gotta go get suits. You ain't got a
Speaker 1: job to go to, but you do gotta go to
Speaker 1: another country to get some suit. Nah.
Speaker 4: The secret is secret is two things, right, because we
Speaker 4: went over fast. One, the mindset of a woman is
Speaker 4: the secret sauce of getting the best out of everything.
Speaker 4: Like not enough men know that, like the intuition of
Speaker 4: a woman. The mindset and the wisdom of a woman
Speaker 4: is od lit. So when you try to dim that,
Speaker 4: you're a fool.
Speaker 1: Right. That's one.
Speaker 4: And secondly, this when I learned, even before marriage and
Speaker 4: all that, when I learned, when I was doing my thing,
Speaker 4: when I learned that being honest is the flyest thing.
Speaker 4: One of the fliest things to a woman is like
Speaker 4: make me drip. Look, look, yeah I did, I do?
Speaker 1: I did. She's actually coming by too later to do.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm just leaving you. You can stay if
Speaker 1: you like, just have that other it's when I knew that.
Speaker 4: When I learned that, it was like yo, I tell
Speaker 4: my boys, I'm like, why are y'all lying? When if
Speaker 4: a woman would decide whether she wants to deal with
Speaker 4: your truth or not.
Speaker 1: Or not, let's if you want to be able to
Speaker 1: have a good reputation amongst women. There's a dude in La.
Speaker 1: I'll tell y'all off your are. Y'all might know him,
Speaker 1: but I know four girls that dated him. He is
Speaker 1: so so, so honest, so ethical, all of them saying
Speaker 1: about him.
Speaker 3: I went to a club that he was at. Two
Speaker 3: girls are in around, and he fugged.
Speaker 1: New girlfriend, hugged the eggs. I remember talking in my
Speaker 1: head like, rich, my best friend lived like that one
Speaker 1: of my best friends. Are you like that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: But serious? I mean, call your name out, but that's
Speaker 1: how you boom. But he did not like that any
Speaker 1: of them when sleeping with them. So I started finding
Speaker 1: out about this hold on looking at you different when
Speaker 1: we outside. So one of the girls that he was
Speaker 1: sleeping with and I have become friends at the time,
Speaker 1: and on their second date, he was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to bombard you with this on the first
Speaker 1: but I've been dating two or three people. Blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. This is what they're like. I don't know
Speaker 1: if she had an attitude or what. He spoke to
Speaker 1: her later and basically was like, hey, your energy just
Speaker 1: really wasn't like happy about it. I know you say
Speaker 1: you cool with it, but like cool, it just ain't
Speaker 1: enough because I don't want to drive you to the
Speaker 1: point of being upset, like if this ain't a lifestyle
Speaker 1: when you are dating, Like be honest, it's so weird.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I I'm battling with oversharing. But even
Speaker 1: like on my birthday, I told act to bate the
Speaker 1: gift I got from another person, and I thought, like
Speaker 1: it was even though we talk every day, it was
Speaker 1: important for me to like let him know, like we
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to a point where I did not that
Speaker 1: would be oversharing. Yeah, no, that would have been that
Speaker 1: would have made me mad.
Speaker 4: What difference is that that is that line line omitting
Speaker 4: is omitting.
Speaker 1: Line, So you better not tell me about to be
Speaker 1: real quick. When I told him to give he was like,
Speaker 1: that's NBA money he.
Speaker 3: Did, and it's only a circond racket of the month.
Speaker 1: There's one hundred of them. Not find out anyway.
Speaker 2: What but like I've decided to open up like, if
Speaker 2: I'm talking to guys, I think it's important even for
Speaker 2: guys dating women. Hey, if we're not exclusive, especially if
Speaker 2: we're not fucking, you should know like that I am,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Dating other people, absolutely that I'm open to it.
Speaker 2: But I'm also very much interested in you and to
Speaker 2: me then that's also where as a man. And this
Speaker 2: is what I wanted to ask you to in your relationship.
Speaker 2: When you guys were dating, especially with the distance, at
Speaker 2: what point did you say, Hey, I kind of want
Speaker 2: to close this off, Like is there a way that
Speaker 2: we can be exclusive exclusively dating? Like how did that
Speaker 2: conversation happen, especially with distance?
Speaker 4: When she came when she came by, okay, and it
Speaker 4: was like, oh shoot, okay, this is different yo, Like
Speaker 4: I'm not thinking about nobody else. I'm not rocking with
Speaker 4: nobody else, I'm not texting nobody else.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. She She's like, look, I'm about to block
Speaker 1: all these niggas and delete this right now. I ain't
Speaker 1: doing that. That's really good. I'm going through a moment.
Speaker 1: I'm coming in face right now. What don't make them listen?
Speaker 1: When I met my not during this what I had
Speaker 1: to say, I was like, look, you're my favorite right now,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to cut them all off. But
Speaker 1: I did how good it was. By the way, I
Speaker 1: want to make a point about your intuition. So I'm
Speaker 1: in an ethically non monogamous relationship. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of boundaries, a lot of communicator, a lot of sex
Speaker 1: with other people together.
Speaker 4: You knew that y'all was not doing monogamy when you
Speaker 4: first started or what.
Speaker 1: Was it podcasts? Yeah, to be honest with you, he
Speaker 1: actually brought this up on the phone him today because
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I just listened to this episode
Speaker 1: wrote to me from seven years ago, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm on the same ship, Mandy. All you and I
Speaker 1: talked about was ethical nomenogamy. You were like, I was
Speaker 1: ethically you were talking about sex love and like you
Speaker 1: were talking about consent.
Speaker 3: And he was saying, what did you guys see there?
Speaker 1: And we were like, I went to the sex club
Speaker 1: seven years ago? I did too. Yeah, damn we was outside.
Speaker 1: We lived a lot ship yesterday y'all have been listening
Speaker 1: to this ship that Like, I thought that was new
Speaker 1: for me. So, I mean, we have sex with people
Speaker 1: vaguely together. But he went to a bachelor party this weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you should get because he have some fun.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. He was there four or five nights.
Speaker 1: Right in the morning he called me or no, yeah,
Speaker 1: he called me. Just woke up and it was early.
Speaker 1: I was like, you got some pussy last day. He
Speaker 1: was like laughing, like yo, I didn't even y'all. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know you did.
Speaker 3: He was like, yo, I didn't even get to get
Speaker 3: it out yet.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask him any other night, but I knew
Speaker 1: the night, and I know he got to be thinking himself.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know what it is. It's just something.
Speaker 1: And we were like there was nothing off about the text.
Speaker 1: We both said the night I was tired. I went
Speaker 1: a bit early.
Speaker 3: I was on a flight or whatever something about it.
Speaker 1: To get pussy when you was on a flight. Y'all
Speaker 1: ain't gonna call me to night. Let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and slot. We've been talking about it. They only gonna
Speaker 1: be wid by. I met too. She can't FaceTime that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think the insuition is because you
Speaker 3: feeling and he'd.
Speaker 1: Be looking at you. It's like that nigga got a
Speaker 1: bit chopping on that dick right now. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was just head. You know what, I do appreciate
Speaker 1: every time we were talking about a little bitches, he
Speaker 1: they be looking different. He a little Chinese girls like, hey,
Speaker 1: get your little stuff that you can't get in home.
Speaker 4: Anyway, you always thought this way, like always was like
Speaker 4: that free or like is it because he's him that
Speaker 4: you like that?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say that she.
Speaker 1: Be like that last couples, but they were really really
Speaker 1: lying to me though.
Speaker 2: Still my ex cheated on me and we were open
Speaker 2: to you know why because they they think they they
Speaker 2: were lying and I literally he cheated on me with
Speaker 2: bitches from the sex club. Then I literally like towards
Speaker 2: the end, I was like, bro, he didn't like how
Speaker 2: much we were touring, like we were on the road
Speaker 2: and I was I was constantly.
Speaker 1: Gone and I was like, you do you need a
Speaker 1: bitch for when I'm not here?
Speaker 2: And what's crazy is he took that and I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was my delivery. To this day, I
Speaker 2: don't know what it was. He took it as I
Speaker 2: was calling him a sex feed because I literally did
Speaker 2: not understand. We went to the sex club. We had
Speaker 2: all these threesomes. I couldn't understand why if I'm gone
Speaker 2: for three or four days it's an issue, like and
Speaker 2: so he thought, I mean, I do think he's a
Speaker 2: sex attic now, but he took it as like a
Speaker 2: slight like.
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm not addicted to sex. I could go three
Speaker 1: days without it, and I think, I know, I think
Speaker 1: sometimes men just want to have a moment by themselves
Speaker 1: with someone and if that's what it is, you need
Speaker 1: to be with a woman's school with it. For me,
Speaker 1: with my ex when in and out, I never thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna do this again because I didn't understand honestly,
Speaker 1: could be radical. And you know, it's scary because, like
Speaker 1: my ex literally told me to my face, the more
Speaker 1: I fell in love with you, less I can tell
Speaker 1: you about other women, Like why can't we just have
Speaker 1: this where I'm allowed to do it? And then like
Speaker 1: I don't want to share this with you currently. I
Speaker 1: know this is weird for him, Like I know it's weird,
Speaker 1: like this is this is new to him, He's never
Speaker 1: been I think he like his extras kind of let
Speaker 1: him do whatever. But I don't know if they were
Speaker 1: sharing talking in the way we're having sex with people together,
Speaker 1: dating together like this.
Speaker 3: Is you know man that grew up with first generation Nigerian.
Speaker 1: You know everybody. It's very traditional. Everybody is medical, legal,
Speaker 1: you know them.
Speaker 4: I mean, you'd be a great lawyer. I swear you'd
Speaker 4: be a great because you objection and the.
Speaker 1: God heard what you said there, right Damn. I'm just noticing,
Speaker 1: like from family dynamics, and all I keep seeing is
Speaker 1: Nigerian wedding after Nigerian. I'm like, oh wow, we are
Speaker 1: really nuts, like we are the couple this Please don't
Speaker 1: tell your brothers what we're doing. But they know because
Speaker 1: they listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh man, listen, we went to a fucking wedding in Jersey.
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was that many now Jersey that
Speaker 1: in this one little Secondaryl Why wanted his.
Speaker 3: Cousins screamed, oh my god, what you We sat right
Speaker 3: next to each other.
Speaker 1: She was like the stories about him. If you're listening, girl, sorry,
Speaker 1: she was like me right here, Oh my god. I
Speaker 1: it was so cute. But he's say that to say
Speaker 1: in a non traditional dynamic like this, I think he's
Speaker 1: very much like, oh, this is only going to work
Speaker 1: if it's honest. So it's really a little awkward for him,
Speaker 1: I think when he wants to tell me something, but
Speaker 1: I have to be really warm and open about the shit,
Speaker 1: you know, Like and even on days where I'm little aggravated,
Speaker 1: I could tell he might want to tell me something.
Speaker 1: I have to put that to the side because I
Speaker 1: could ruin that connection too. This man is telling me
Speaker 1: things that might be embarrassing for him to unleash, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like thinking like I'm about to
Speaker 1: tell my girl this shit, or I got someone's number,
Speaker 1: what do I say? I could tell it's not easy,
Speaker 1: but the more that we're going through the motions, it's
Speaker 1: becoming great. And no, yeah, but like yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Safety is not something that people feel when telling the
Speaker 1: truth because we're begging you to tell us the truth,
Speaker 1: and then when we do, we yell at you for it.
Speaker 1: And I'm no, no, no yelling the truth. I want
Speaker 1: to know the truth and I'm gonna sit with it.
Speaker 2: Let's get into love, Okay, So real quick though, for
Speaker 2: the hoard dirve, which is normally our sex tip, I
Speaker 2: want to ask you, as a new father, I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's a lot that happens with
Speaker 2: the birth of a child, right, So I would love
Speaker 2: to know if you could give a tip for the
Speaker 2: new fathers on still creating some level of intimacy with
Speaker 2: a newborn and if you guys had any obstacles with
Speaker 2: finding intimacy time did you watch the baby coming out
Speaker 2: or really?
Speaker 1: Why not? Was it section? No? You just do not
Speaker 1: look right here. I'm not gonnad you. I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to look at it. I'm so like I had one
Speaker 1: friend tell me how he felt about pussy.
Speaker 4: After that, I didn't want to ruin what I thought afterwards.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to just I didn't know what was
Speaker 4: gonna happen after that.
Speaker 2: But once the baby was Once the baby was here,
Speaker 2: you guys went home, Like, in what ways did you,
Speaker 2: you know, find ways to be sexy with her and
Speaker 2: intimate with her?
Speaker 4: Well for father's you know, I think the first thing
Speaker 4: is you got to make your woman feel sexy, right
Speaker 4: because the insecure about insecurity about the body.
Speaker 1: Does he still like me? Damn?
Speaker 4: I knowing my man is fly, he's on the road,
Speaker 4: you know, he's seeing this and this. So the whole
Speaker 4: thing is you got to make your woman feel as
Speaker 4: sexy as possible. So I was like, look, I just
Speaker 4: want you walking around boy shorts all day, boy shorts
Speaker 4: and heels for the next two weeks, you know, right
Speaker 4: after the baby, when she was able to yah, when
Speaker 4: she was able to she was able to no, no,
Speaker 4: when she was able to just be like, yo, I
Speaker 4: just want to see that, you know. And it was
Speaker 4: just like when I saw her do that and feel
Speaker 4: sexy and trial like yeah, just different colors this and this.
Speaker 4: She I saw her body awaken, her sexual energy come back,
Speaker 4: because it's like the man and loves it, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, So like yeah, yeah, get the dress
Speaker 4: up going on, you know. And then also just living
Speaker 4: a lot of compliments, you know, from a genuine place,
Speaker 4: and still talk nasty as possible, you know, be as
Speaker 4: freaky as fuck you making.
Speaker 3: Her too maternal, like too much of like she's always
Speaker 3: in mom.
Speaker 1: Mode of course.
Speaker 4: But then also the thing is too knowing that it's
Speaker 4: not about me anymore during this time sexually, it's whenever
Speaker 4: she wants it, because when she's comfortable at that particular time,
Speaker 4: because you just did that, it's insensitive me to be
Speaker 4: like I need this, I need this, I need this.
Speaker 4: So it's more of like whenever you're ready, whenever you
Speaker 4: want to, just do what you need to do.
Speaker 1: What makes it so much better?
Speaker 4: Is it just like it's just warm at mind? You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's just it's warmer.
Speaker 3: Say, ain't that prow to the birth?
Speaker 1: Did you have sex to the birth? Yeah? Maybe like
Speaker 1: a week week? Okay, wow, yeah, the baby got dimples.
Speaker 1: I do walk around like it's great that you found
Speaker 1: her sexy while pregnant, because I have heard one too
Speaker 1: many friends be like, oh my god, like this. I'm
Speaker 1: that maybe it's a little fetish. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I thought it was. Maybe it's an African thing. My
Speaker 1: nigga look at every pregnant bitch walking down the street
Speaker 1: like she looks everything. Breast get bigger, the booty gets.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I don't think to lust after a pregnant woman just
Speaker 1: walking down the street. Are they ugly? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. That's not what I said. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like wagging after.
Speaker 3: Beautiful like when women are glowing, like who is that?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It started making me look Okay,
Speaker 1: so I want to talk about your new single because
Speaker 1: in the song I let me some of you, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why do you? Why? Why you gotta do this?
Speaker 3: You're not talking about breaking up. It's not gonna be
Speaker 3: a good.
Speaker 1: Song right now. You gotta hear that ship every motherfucking
Speaker 1: we I like to.
Speaker 3: Fuck to break up music though, because it hit harder.
Speaker 1: It's just true. Yeah. But I was really watching that
Speaker 1: video like, oh, no, you're really in love. So in
Speaker 1: the song, like you just talk about like expressing love,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious, is there anything you talk about in
Speaker 1: the song that is like directly to your life that
Speaker 1: you do so I'll even say it.
Speaker 4: So the whole album is like displays of my life
Speaker 4: over the last ten years.
Speaker 1: So it's not even just my marriage. Oh, it's literally
Speaker 1: you got something in there. Yeah. Absolutely, it's the truth,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I did what I have
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I mean? So like you
Speaker 1: yeah a few times and.
Speaker 4: Then he's praying to Jesus no for me. It was
Speaker 4: literally like, Okay, what can I do to make something
Speaker 4: that do women? What do women want to hear that
Speaker 4: they don't hear enough and they don't hear yo?
Speaker 1: I love me some. You, however you are, however you feel,
Speaker 1: however you move.
Speaker 4: And it was just like, that's that's a fly thing
Speaker 4: to say to a woman in a society where men
Speaker 4: ain't talking like that, you know, And I think that
Speaker 4: that was what I wanted to focus on. But there's
Speaker 4: there's second verse. Could be a second verse was really
Speaker 4: about the situations that I've had in the past. You
Speaker 4: listen to the song where I've had some some some
Speaker 4: some throat goats. You know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 4: know it's it's it's reminiscent. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Listen. You asked me a questions. I answered, remember that night, yes,
Speaker 1: but I do.
Speaker 4: But but now it was just like different experiences of
Speaker 4: life throughout this whole project.
Speaker 1: But I love me some.
Speaker 4: You just wanted something that you could dance to, you
Speaker 4: could you could stroke to if you if you if
Speaker 4: you got the rhythm for it.
Speaker 1: That song kind of made me feel like I was
Speaker 1: going here in the club, I'm trying to think, I
Speaker 1: love me some.
Speaker 4: All the little things you do, all the little ways
Speaker 4: you move, all the little things.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know what that is. That's the
Speaker 1: selliment version that you. I don't know. You don't change
Speaker 1: that was that? That's the water drinking you. Oh god,
Speaker 1: the water.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 1: Get keep going, keep going because while I'm cellibate, I
Speaker 1: just have to have it in my mind. Are we
Speaker 1: gonna get cut off? YouTube playing because that shi was
Speaker 1: behind you? I don't do can't wait? What does it do? Girl?
Speaker 1: I had a music? Don't do it. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: asking it will be people to know. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: me they can look it up. Don't go look it up.
Speaker 1: I love me.
Speaker 4: So you go watch the video. It looks incredible. Purchase
Speaker 4: available right now. I promise you're gonna love it. And
Speaker 4: you're gonnaunderstand what they're talking about?
Speaker 3: Well, what are your favorite ways to express love?
Speaker 1: Mmmm? That's a great question. Even if it's tricky, we'll
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, yeah not.
Speaker 4: I think with how busy I am making time, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, making time, it's one of the
Speaker 4: best ways isolated time, taking my cho like just taking
Speaker 4: it just on vacations and just spending time.
Speaker 1: Is that your love language? Would you spending time? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Quality time? Yeah? Quality time. Isolated time is a great
Speaker 1: way to any times to be going out and you
Speaker 1: ever have someone invite you to a party, like I'm
Speaker 1: spending time with account.
Speaker 2: Isolated time is not in a group quality. What makes
Speaker 2: it quality is isolation.
Speaker 1: That is just you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the isolated time just bomb sex. Man like
Speaker 4: you gotta find ways to you.
Speaker 1: I don't love. I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're a great ship out of you. Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: not it's a part of it. No, it's not. There
Speaker 1: are a hell of niggas. I can get the ship
Speaker 1: out anybody. I'm not talking about that nigga. No, it
Speaker 1: does not count. You cannot say that as a man.
Speaker 1: I show love by sucking the shoot out of it. No, no,
Speaker 1: I said not. Wait add not you hopping in starting
Speaker 1: five minutes later. I mean he's from a good point. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it happen.
Speaker 2: If we're asking man, how they show love, given dick
Speaker 2: ain't a sign of loving.
Speaker 1: This is if it's from a meaningful thing. Adam's got
Speaker 1: it great, Adam is not here. That's part of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's part of it. It's part not.
Speaker 4: We know that Dick is a part of you. It's
Speaker 4: a part of you. Giving giving meaningful sex. Meaningful sex
Speaker 4: is a.
Speaker 1: Part of me, not isolated, time, meaningful sex, you know,
Speaker 1: three and I get shout, want your dick? God damn. Okay,
Speaker 1: how would you like to express your love tonight? Fucking you?
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I mean we heard it as women.
Speaker 1: You said it. I'm sick trying to speak the city
Speaker 1: in right. Okay? So what's the other three ways you
Speaker 1: so love to me?
Speaker 4: I think really really really listening, like really listening, yo,
Speaker 4: because we as humans, Yoe, we try to interrupt each
Speaker 4: other so much because we're always worried about what we're
Speaker 4: going to say. That it'll be like, Yo, just tell
Speaker 4: me everything you feel and I'm just gonna listen, and
Speaker 4: then when you're done, I'll wait thirty forty seconds. That's
Speaker 4: a long time. So when you're done, I wait for
Speaker 4: the silence and be like, you're good. And I think
Speaker 4: not enough people are heard, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So that where it's just empty out the dealings with
Speaker 4: the kids, the worst feelings, what could I do better?
Speaker 4: What you need from me? What makes you happy? All
Speaker 4: of that and just let it go. I think that's
Speaker 4: a big I think that's a big, big two that
Speaker 4: a lot of men don't really focus on.
Speaker 1: You know who else said that? We had on a
Speaker 1: guy his name is Dom He's a big Netflix personality
Speaker 1: for the Love shows, and we were like, what is
Speaker 1: it that you think women want that you're giving. He goes,
Speaker 1: I just listen, listen, and man, he was like what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Like she was laughing because he said it
Speaker 1: like that. But people in the comments were like, no,
Speaker 1: men really don't don't listen. They don't you know when
Speaker 1: a man like, oh my god, this always gets me.
Speaker 1: This is a very specific thing. But I've met two
Speaker 1: men that are super famous, actually two three, I'll say
Speaker 1: people KICKI Palmer is one of them that are don't
Speaker 1: have to give anybody the time of day that will
Speaker 1: sink into you. I have been so impressed how certain
Speaker 1: people that have been busy, rich, famous, just got a
Speaker 1: bunch of people on they Dick will really be like, no,
Speaker 1: for real, what she was up too? For real? How
Speaker 1: was Mexico? What'd you eat there? You gotta give me
Speaker 1: a home? So important? And I think when it's the
Speaker 1: partner that you're with, you know, bring up famous people
Speaker 1: because to me, those are the ones that treat you
Speaker 1: the most like whatever you know, So to know that
Speaker 1: someone still has that humility in relationships, men kind of
Speaker 1: forget they got to give you that. In the book
Speaker 1: we have, I literally was writing, there's like a before
Speaker 1: the pussy game, you meet the best version of a
Speaker 1: man before he fucked. Oh my god, tell me, I'm telling.
Speaker 3: Me about that bit your word?
Speaker 1: What made you? I mean, and you know they're always
Speaker 1: so great, and then when they started you, it's like,
Speaker 1: why is that?
Speaker 2: Because is it then that they're just you know, you
Speaker 2: are bringing you a false represent a false representation.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because that's the end goal is that majority of
Speaker 4: the time. So you're gonna be on.
Speaker 1: Your best behavior to get That's crazy, that's crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's true, it's true. But I think women do it
Speaker 1: too though. No, no, no, no, I think women do. We
Speaker 1: only act, we only act worse if it was bad.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's not true. I stopped dressing up as much.
Speaker 1: I try. I try to, like it has to have
Speaker 1: to remember I'm gonna be in my big T shirts.
Speaker 1: I'm still secondigger. I don't know what it, but the outfits.
Speaker 2: I'd be like by day three, you getting me in
Speaker 2: my stud version, You are getting me.
Speaker 1: They wanted to.
Speaker 2: I would be by day three, I need you to
Speaker 2: see me as casual as possible, like sneakers, cargo pants,
Speaker 2: like maybe no makeup, like you gonna see me like
Speaker 2: how I am because I don't want to continue that,
Speaker 2: like I want you to see me.
Speaker 4: Right, But why didn't you start off with day three?
Speaker 4: Because you put it on you putting on.
Speaker 1: Well, I think there still is a first impression when
Speaker 1: day three, first impression should be enough. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, no, calm down. I will have boss and
Speaker 1: my fucking brow's done on date one.
Speaker 2: Because I think if I'm on a date with someone
Speaker 2: and they show up in sweatpants on the first date,
Speaker 2: that that's telling from them to me. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like a job interview, right, Like I do think that
Speaker 2: first impressions mean a lot, and you have to show
Speaker 2: me Like to me, dressing up in the beginning with
Speaker 2: someone shows that you care about I do try to dress.
Speaker 1: Girly on the first thing. The many men have told
Speaker 1: me I don't I'm not gurly enough, say or I
Speaker 1: have very like dominating energy. But by day three, you go, see, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm putting these jays on. I think it's very submissive.
Speaker 1: Tell you we don't know each other.
Speaker 4: That well, okay, you get the right one that be like,
Speaker 4: hey you you done, bro, see good Dick is in prison.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you done, bro.
Speaker 2: I'm telling my secrets, share who I can be. But
Speaker 2: I think that's another thing, right dating someone. It's the
Speaker 2: safety that you feel.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us and me growing up
Speaker 2: in a single parent household, I didn't see a lot
Speaker 2: of men be able to take the guard down from
Speaker 2: my mom either, and so she had to show up
Speaker 2: as mom and dad. And I think for me, I
Speaker 2: bet on myself, so I kind of have to like
Speaker 2: if if you gonna do it, I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 2: I'm good. And that's kind of just something that I
Speaker 2: wear on my chest. But it does take a long
Speaker 2: time for a man to get those. And then I
Speaker 2: felt safe with a narcissist. So look at that trauma.
Speaker 1: Sorry what what I'm working through it?
Speaker 2: No, no, everybody in real time, because I did let
Speaker 2: my guard down with him, I was very submissive, cooked
Speaker 2: I did a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Many making you with us for ever because I really
Speaker 1: felt like no, no, no, so like it wasn't even
Speaker 1: that right.
Speaker 2: Like I remember shout out to my friends, sit and be.
Speaker 2: We went out to dinner one night. We went uh
Speaker 2: they were both in town. We had a whole day
Speaker 2: out in New York. Right, we did dinner at how
Speaker 2: we was outside. I got back to the house maybe
Speaker 2: at like, I don't know, eleven thirty, but we had
Speaker 2: been out all day and I was exhausted. But my
Speaker 2: ex was coming over and he was like and I
Speaker 2: didn't order him any food because I didn't even know
Speaker 2: he was gonna come over because my friends run down.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm coming over and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: are you hungry and he was like, yeah, I actually am.
Speaker 2: I said okay this and my friends was like, bitch,
Speaker 2: you about to go home and cook. And it was
Speaker 2: like eleven thirty at night, and I made fucking chicken
Speaker 2: and rice to me and they were like, bitch, who
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 2: Like thirty group details It wasn't now, I mean, but yes, So,
Speaker 2: I mean it does take the right person to get
Speaker 2: you out of your element and for someone that like
Speaker 2: and again, I was just excited to see him and
Speaker 2: I was like, You're not going to be in my
Speaker 2: house fucking hungry, you my man? And so yeah, but
Speaker 2: it it happened once in my life that a man
Speaker 2: took that guard down and it was him, And now
Speaker 2: I'm yeeling from that.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna happen again, I hope. So it will,
Speaker 4: I hope. So I'm hoping you do.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm celibateting because I'm I don't like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not look like you feel like you're about to
Speaker 1: follow up. No, I'm four on one, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: So you know I was you know I was celibate
Speaker 1: because you remember you was?
Speaker 3: You was elegate when I don't like, what are the
Speaker 3: air quotes?
Speaker 1: She did celibate when she met me or himymn, girl,
Speaker 1: you might get somebody again. I was celibate because it
Speaker 1: was a pandemic and I don't nobody fuck me because
Speaker 1: this New York was fucking Agent zero.
Speaker 3: Let God kept that podcast going everything.
Speaker 1: I was living in seven dollars.
Speaker 2: They would not even let me fly him in for
Speaker 2: the seventeen dollars. I was like, you're not gonna let
Speaker 2: me fly you in. It was like bit you in
Speaker 2: an epicenter. I was only celibate before I met that nigga. Man,
Speaker 2: you can't on the podcast be like you got something
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't decided to move to Mexico and be
Speaker 1: outside there on the pandemic colonizing the whole of the country.
Speaker 1: It was like, there's no COVID here. Party and then,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something fucked up. I always say
Speaker 1: this to the ship is how I knew. He blew
Speaker 1: up my expos in the door where we were living
Speaker 1: in Tulum, and he goes, I feel like the flights,
Speaker 1: they might not be that hard to get in No
Speaker 1: marsh why he said it was about five bitches at
Speaker 1: the store that looked like they listened to horrible decisions.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, then there became a hookah lounge suddenly in
Speaker 1: Talim Wow. Oh yeah, come on, But the pandemic was
Speaker 1: such a difficult time for people that one, we're working
Speaker 1: nine to fives or stuck in their jobs and like
Speaker 1: behind that desk, like imagine that girl. Everybody, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so when they really wanted to break out,
Speaker 1: where the fuck are you supposed to go? Bro? Think
Speaker 1: about people they go to doche where can you go?
Speaker 2: Okay, I wanted to ask you in terms of this
Speaker 2: new project, so you said there was a little bit
Speaker 2: of everything. I mean, they've been having the conversations about
Speaker 2: male R and B artists even not collaborating with each other.
Speaker 2: I also know R and B for whatever reason, is
Speaker 2: not getting the airplay as it used to.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I also just I was at
Speaker 1: a birthday party and we played past the oucs and
Speaker 1: we all played this music, and all I kept saying is, damn,
Speaker 1: they don't make music like this anymore.
Speaker 2: I do want to know when you when you got
Speaker 2: into the studio, if you went in with the intention
Speaker 2: to evoke the emotion of baby making, of love making,
Speaker 2: of the things that we feel like we're not getting
Speaker 2: because we're getting a lot of toxic.
Speaker 1: Nigga R and B rights. You have a little bit
Speaker 1: of that in there, but is there the love making
Speaker 1: absolutely aspect as well.
Speaker 4: So I'll even go, you know, even further to answer.
Speaker 4: So like for me when I made in my Bed,
Speaker 4: when I made Love Rhythm, I was feeling power right,
Speaker 4: and the label was like, yo, you have two three
Speaker 4: days to go make these songs. We need a single.
Speaker 4: We don't we don't have one yet, Go we give
Speaker 4: you two days to figure it out. So I was
Speaker 4: making Platinum Records in two days because I was doing
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 1: How long?
Speaker 3: How long do people normally work on a song?
Speaker 1: That's that three to six months, even though I Mariah
Speaker 1: Carroll only took fifteen minutes. But it's okay, she won
Speaker 1: on one. Do they keep revising? I always assume you
Speaker 1: go in and they were like, that's the one.
Speaker 4: No, it takes a very long time. So like when
Speaker 4: artists make an album, it takes a year, six months,
Speaker 4: three months. I've never had that option. I've never had
Speaker 4: that opportunity.
Speaker 1: Because you were filming.
Speaker 4: Because filming, so like I would just thank god, I
Speaker 4: was just talented enough that I'll go in there and
Speaker 4: make a record. But when when we started working on this,
Speaker 4: it was an acting strike on this album. So all
Speaker 4: I had, Yeah, So all I had was to work,
Speaker 4: get my music and shows and we got to get
Speaker 4: you that other bad yeah. So he was like, yo,
Speaker 4: sit your ays down and focus on this music. So
Speaker 4: it was the first time in my life where I'm
Speaker 4: able to spend an entire year or just a long
Speaker 4: time with music, a time on the music where I
Speaker 4: can really go through stories, I can actually write the
Speaker 4: records and melodies and me and punched it the whole
Speaker 4: project ourselves that we wrote, produce all the records. Yourself
Speaker 4: matters absolutely because it's my story and I get more money.
Speaker 1: It was like music like if I'm listening to drug
Speaker 1: dealing ship, I don't even who wrote it.
Speaker 2: I feel like, no, no, no, you got I just
Speaker 2: want to know. I started no no, I started getting
Speaker 2: into it. I don't like I don't like the rappers
Speaker 2: whose cap I want you to be in the boot cap.
Speaker 1: That's why I like them. I told to them, Jacksonville
Speaker 1: rappers that be killing these other really what I like
Speaker 1: the real ship?
Speaker 4: Like, I know what you talking about exactly. You feel
Speaker 4: me absolutely, so that's why. So that's why I was like,
Speaker 4: I was like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't like violence though, guys, No, I just
Speaker 1: like dropping drug music Like that's great, You're not selling
Speaker 1: a brick. I can't work out the same, like really
Speaker 1: selling it for real real.
Speaker 3: I knew you hear about like pushing away and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I'm telling you so Like for me, I
Speaker 4: understood that, like the quality of the music only gonna
Speaker 4: be better when it comes from my stories. So now
Speaker 4: they gave me a year to make this project. It's undeniable,
Speaker 4: Like I literally.
Speaker 1: Have simples on this project.
Speaker 4: No, we went everything is clear because I learned that
Speaker 4: haven't in my bed. I didn't make as much money
Speaker 4: as I should have. That's why I asked. That was
Speaker 4: really Yeah, it was a big example. It was the
Speaker 4: Lauryn Hill thank you. Yeah, well yeah that one too
Speaker 4: already and here I come.
Speaker 1: So it was mbled a lot.
Speaker 4: So so it's like, yo, what can we do to
Speaker 4: speak on your life?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 4: So what we did was and it's never been done before.
Speaker 4: What we did was we made a double album where
Speaker 4: it's half R and B half afrobeats.
Speaker 1: So the song I heard when you kept saying R
Speaker 1: and B, I'm like, why, I'm not about to ruin
Speaker 1: this moment, okay because that felt like afrobeats to me.
Speaker 1: The video that I'm talking about, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's like side okay, so it's a side like
Speaker 4: back in the day, you have two albums, So now it's.
Speaker 1: Say which two album one not because y'all canceled them.
Speaker 1: It was it was crazy, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, you know albums I thought.
Speaker 2: About, no like they did a lot of the done recently.
Speaker 2: We just got that as well from from Drake.
Speaker 4: Yeah, drink and that is what I think it was Scorpion,
Speaker 4: I think so yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So we were like, look,
Speaker 4: it's never been done before. Where we say the project
Speaker 4: is called in my Heart, in my veins. In my
Speaker 4: heart side is the R and B side, like the
Speaker 4: inspired by Laurence Hill, the Carl Thomas, the genuine Thomas.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then the afro B side is in
Speaker 4: my veins, which is my blood.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So like it's that nine and nine and we literally
Speaker 4: shot a music video for all eighteen record.
Speaker 1: Why you call us to be none of them? If
Speaker 1: you go I tried, I feel like because nigga, where
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah? We still one to do exactly to
Speaker 1: do batt we only got to be movie. We better
Speaker 1: get in that music. Can we get the music video?
Speaker 1: Of course? Can I do an interlud? Yes, we could
Speaker 1: do all of that. Yeah, we could do that, a podcast,
Speaker 1: get I want to do a voicemail? Do Timmy where
Speaker 1: you at?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: You know? I want to wife and home and found it? No,
Speaker 1: he got a wife at home? All you do it? Oh?
Speaker 1: We should do that though. No, I'm serious.
Speaker 4: I'm dead serious too. Punch make it happen we're done
Speaker 4: you we're good, right, yeah? Okay, no, for real, that
Speaker 4: was a horm on the standards because.
Speaker 1: If y'all want to Grammy now, I want that. I
Speaker 1: need the plan. It wouldn't go platt. I'm gonna get one.
Speaker 1: We get a plaqu right if we want to interlude.
Speaker 3: In the plank on Drake's album, and she was like,
Speaker 3: where are you at?
Speaker 2: Well, they thought I was on the Kendrick you know
Speaker 2: the one where he arguing Yeah, yeah, YEA thought it
Speaker 2: was me.
Speaker 1: Really, I don't like that y'all think. I mean sounded
Speaker 1: like that, but that's kind of crazy, all right, and
Speaker 1: you you were talking at all the wrong moments. You're
Speaker 1: asked silent over there, okay, do you have any shows
Speaker 1: coming up? Ship?
Speaker 4: Many shows coming up? So we got to show in Dominica.
Speaker 4: Oh coming up? Then we gotta show and whe you
Speaker 4: better go there because I see what she collected that
Speaker 4: I made sure I made sure she can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a certain Dominica. We got a show
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4: Uh, and then we got a show and we're putting
Speaker 4: together the tour now. So once the once the project
Speaker 4: come out November first everything. Oh and then we got
Speaker 4: to show in camp. Yes, we gotta show in cant
Speaker 4: Coon as well, right after Dominicum October twenty seventh.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it's gonna be hot by now whatever you
Speaker 1: want it off. But but the album drops, so they're
Speaker 1: gonna be getting You're gonna be ridiculous. And kid, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be another shavor. It's gonna be literally every time
Speaker 1: I see you on shaving be like this nigga love
Speaker 1: taking his shirt off. But honestly, I think it's fun
Speaker 1: about the way that you've been performing on stage. I
Speaker 1: haven't had the pleasure to see you yet, but I
Speaker 1: don't get invited. Come on, now we've to it. That
Speaker 1: that's true. That is great. We changed were No, no,
Speaker 1: we're on tour as well. But I know you get
Speaker 1: really you let your fans get in there, and I
Speaker 1: feel like the usher is the only other person I've
Speaker 1: seen you there.
Speaker 2: Your face I can't steal he no, he making the
Speaker 2: face because he did invite us.
Speaker 1: But we work. He's like, yeah, I don't care what
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, listen, list one.
Speaker 4: I've been wanting to that very true, that's very true. No, so,
Speaker 4: but I also want to damn I wanted to give y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring it to y'all.
Speaker 1: You see, Oh, go ahead, tell us what you plug
Speaker 1: and we.
Speaker 4: Ain't get to get it to y'all. So I gotta,
Speaker 4: I gotta a skincare line. Okay, I got no, no, no,
Speaker 4: it's called Favor. It's called Favorite. So it's all natural,
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Speaker 4: in them. And basically it's minerals from the Dead Sea,
Speaker 4: so like it's a healing component, so like it gets
Speaker 4: you everything. So everybody, if you don't know, So the
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Speaker 4: And it's in Israel and everybody goes there when they
Speaker 4: want to get sosiatis hand cleaned up.
Speaker 1: Any skincare sent me there just by it, Yes, sent
Speaker 1: me there for my ex one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, so that's all that that it is. So
Speaker 4: it's it's available at Favorite Skin f A v R
Speaker 4: skin dot com. It's incredible. It heals, makes your skin glow.
Speaker 4: Everybody asked me, like, yo, how do you get that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, it's from literally from my product because
Speaker 4: during the pandemic, I couldn't Everything that I was using
Speaker 4: was breaking me out, and I was like, let me
Speaker 4: just form my own, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 4: so we made it own and it's doing extremely well.
Speaker 4: So ship congraundt I will I will, I will definite care.
Speaker 1: It's really good. But it was a T shirt. I
Speaker 1: don't want it, and I'm gonna give you the whole kid.
Speaker 1: People give you ship that you don't want, like this
Speaker 1: is something that I really be like, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: put the.
Speaker 2: Link in the description of this episode, so anyone wants
Speaker 2: to go and purchase and try it out? Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure y'all do that.
Speaker 3: Don't using our ship anyway?
Speaker 1: Mentioned clean their faces like this is man should get pettic. No,
Speaker 1: we're in the best yeah Man designed names. Right, I've
Speaker 1: seen the Tiktoks. What men are like really getting they
Speaker 1: ship together. I ain't gonna hold y'all. Don't like to
Speaker 1: TikTok's watching me and clean their house, right bro, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't set up the chopod just so you can
Speaker 1: win decks got It's fucking annoying. Br I don't want
Speaker 1: to see that. I'm not gonna hold you it.
Speaker 3: Kiss me every time. No, let a nigga cut the plants.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I told you the cooking nigga, the
Speaker 2: Jamaican one who slaps the salmon.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that is the one who slaps. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna want you. I don't want ridiculous. And what
Speaker 1: he did that is ridiculous. No, no, no, no no. There's
Speaker 1: a there's a Jamaican man who live in Atlanta and baby,
Speaker 1: let me baby, it's porn.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I want to give y'all his name, though you meet
Speaker 2: him in Atlanta. No, I ain't gonna meet that man
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Down what's his name? I know y'all know,
Speaker 2: y'all probably yelling at your desk right now. I'm oh,
Speaker 2: here you go, here you go. Hold on, let me
Speaker 2: make sure I give it taste of j Yard style.
Speaker 1: With that part. Bitch, I know you're talking.
Speaker 2: And he be smoking his blunt while he's making the
Speaker 2: excavation and fucking hotel, and.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, bitch, ship h he made the other day. Uh?
Speaker 2: And oh, look look at him, bitch, look all that
Speaker 2: look at I just love watching the man cook.
Speaker 1: God damn, that's the point I watched while I'm celebrating.
Speaker 1: You got it? So what do you do? What do
Speaker 1: you do to your body where you watch it? You know,
Speaker 1: I just watch it and watch that because if I
Speaker 1: was celebrating watching that girl get so.
Speaker 4: Bad, so so also what I also did too, Like
Speaker 4: I've been big on like starting businesses with like with
Speaker 4: really powerful black women, no business with us.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna we're gonna be in that video, bitch,
Speaker 1: come on, how you forget already? I can't wait. We're
Speaker 1: gonna win something with that. I promise you we're gonna. Sorry, Okay,
Speaker 1: look I'm gonna be don't be looking at him like
Speaker 1: you're making these promises. If we went in the water,
Speaker 1: that's podcast, I'm gonna be pissed. This is real. This
Speaker 1: is really goal Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So basically because I'm in the self care already, I
Speaker 4: was like, man, let me just do something for people's smiles,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I started researching, and
Speaker 4: I started looking for like companies I want to partner with.
Speaker 4: And there was this toothbrush called big Mouth Oka but
Speaker 4: it was but the wind is that is created by
Speaker 4: this really dope dentistr name is doctor Bobby and she's
Speaker 4: black black women. She won she won Shark Tank and
Speaker 4: it's already doing well. So I reached out to and
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I would love to partner with
Speaker 4: you and let's make some Let's make some money together.
Speaker 4: So we're designing my own toothbrush mechanical I mean electric sorry,
Speaker 4: electric toothbrush that is royal for royal like for royalty
Speaker 4: royal green.
Speaker 1: And we were starting. It should be out within the
Speaker 1: next two weeks. I just stopped put on because you
Speaker 1: do have a nice smile. Thank you. All I do
Speaker 1: now that I've raised is look at this teath I want.
Speaker 1: Before I bought Titt's, that's what I was doing, I
Speaker 1: would just look at tits and be like, I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of I'm not gonna lie now like I gots,
Speaker 1: I'll be looking at everybody mouth. Yeah, well I heard that,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: I was watching Actually I was watching the pod two
Speaker 4: podcasts ago that you were like, you accept you accept
Speaker 4: compliments from strangers better?
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see some Oh no, there's a there's
Speaker 3: a clip.
Speaker 1: There's a comment where someone said there's a science to
Speaker 1: this and apparently it has to do basically on that episode,
Speaker 1: I said, my man obviously gives me compliments all the time,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, from a stranger, it feels it
Speaker 1: feels more special.
Speaker 3: And apparently it's because the proximity from the compliment to
Speaker 3: the person that gives it to you, like a person
Speaker 3: that goes out of their way to say it, a stranger,
Speaker 3: someone that doesn't need anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we feel about psychology. I said it
Speaker 1: wrong by.
Speaker 2: Saying I think that's why, like, as women, we appreciate
Speaker 2: compliments from other women because for men.
Speaker 1: We feel like, maybe this motive you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the motive maybe you want my number.
Speaker 2: Maybe, But when it's from another woman who has nothing
Speaker 2: to gain, you know that that.
Speaker 1: Means a lot. Yeah, but women really are never that
Speaker 1: like forthcoming with compliments because I feel like we're so
Speaker 1: used to being competitive. No, really, like I think women
Speaker 1: are like that. Think about when you're out and like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I am celibate.
Speaker 2: I will let a woman know that she looks good
Speaker 2: without me wanting to have her. I love like, I
Speaker 2: will let a woman know when she put that ship
Speaker 2: on that I will let her know what her her
Speaker 2: makeup is beat.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you can't tell it before we
Speaker 1: get out of here, is that solid core I told
Speaker 1: some white.
Speaker 2: Thing, but that was your first problem. We do and
Speaker 2: favorite but no. I literally looked her.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, you're physique. It's like,
Speaker 1: literally you kept me so motivated. You have like the
Speaker 1: perfect body. Thank you. I'm straight. Oh it wasn't today.
Speaker 1: I don't want girl was. I went up there.
Speaker 3: Everybody, I'm like, did you hear?
Speaker 1: I was so gagged. I'm not gonna lie many did
Speaker 1: you have your braidsen? Only because you heart and my
Speaker 1: name is out.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you might have gave off a little
Speaker 2: stuff out. Okay, you let everyone know again, you let
Speaker 2: them know already toothbrush and again, y'all want to come
Speaker 2: up here Skin album eighteen songs videos. We will be
Speaker 2: able to see all of them.
Speaker 1: All of them, all of them.
Speaker 4: And what we're doing to the cool thing that we're
Speaker 4: gonna do is we're releasing a video every fifteen days,
Speaker 4: a new video every fifteen hours. So there's fourteen to
Speaker 4: eighteen videos for the next six months. So it's new content.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So yees, anybody trying to take that idea, we did
Speaker 4: it here first. Show, we did it here first. Okay,
Speaker 4: we we did it here for you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So we're part of that because they're gonna be on
Speaker 4: the video and we're a part of.
Speaker 1: It exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: And what I want to do, you don't fly me
Speaker 4: back if you need me to fly you he flies
Speaker 4: wipe up like.
Speaker 1: You want this if that'st in yourself? Si.
Speaker 4: No, No, I personally wanted to just you know, say
Speaker 4: that I'm super proud of yall. Man, what y'all been
Speaker 4: doing like is just set in the bar. Y'all are
Speaker 4: ahead of y'all time. Y'all are so gifted, so intelligent,
Speaker 4: so witty, and y'all gonna be doing this for the
Speaker 4: next twenty years.
Speaker 1: Whoa good, well, hang a lot. They keep coming with
Speaker 1: that check we're fucked come on now.
Speaker 3: But no, Like, that's honestly a really good compliment, and.
Speaker 1: I really love that we're able to get you back
Speaker 1: on like you being so many people are scared of us,
Speaker 1: bro Tammy and and you weren't like I think I
Speaker 1: I d M was like, well, you come on our show.
Speaker 1: It's a sex show. We talk about this. And I
Speaker 1: also gave me no things to not talk about, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, he did, Oh you did yep. We
Speaker 1: don't talk. I didn't get them, but oh yeah I
Speaker 1: set that. Oh I know what I mean right now today? No,
Speaker 1: you know that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, today.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like I guess, because you're comfortable always.
Speaker 1: The people feel like Mandy and I might go too far,
Speaker 1: but I feel like we've been so good over the
Speaker 1: years of going as far as someone will let us.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to violate, Like if I feel like
Speaker 1: someone's not really given and I'm not, I'm never trying
Speaker 1: to invite someone on or even for our own listeners,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to make the show whack, Like
Speaker 1: why are we trying to feel sex out of someone
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to give it. I'll talk about dating,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you've always been a great guess. We've actually
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the famous people we've had on
Speaker 1: because we've stopped. We were like, oh, no, they be terrible.
Speaker 1: You definitely in there what you're going celebrity guests, they
Speaker 1: definitely be up here, like, yeah, you know, I got
Speaker 1: miss thing. Oh, nobody really be talking like that. Hey,
Speaker 1: we don't give a funk about that ship. You see
Speaker 1: how you want them over?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: They gonna get their skid care. You're gonna be like
Speaker 3: big now.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know your eyes was just like maybe
Speaker 1: the lighting was different. I gotta go. I didn't know
Speaker 1: you had a little light at don't do that. Don't
Speaker 1: we got to do that and Mandy close it out.
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Speaker 1: masculine to me. That was my man girl. Oh so
Speaker 1: we have this amazing threesome. No one talks about jobs, right.
Speaker 1: She sends me a voice message like, Hey, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I ever told you that I've watched her
Speaker 1: show before, but I'm listening to my regular podcast.
Speaker 5: Okay, Meg, Sorry, didn't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I'm not mad at it. Well,
Speaker 1: you're a different person than I am. I don't like that.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna be a fan, at least be a fan.
Speaker 5: I wi originally I watch your show, watch, I will say,
Speaker 5: I listening to my regular podcast as wild. That's but
Speaker 5: maybe she feels like this is my safe space. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 5: like because maybe we talked about Dick too much. And
Speaker 5: from after sucking her. Okay, well here's what she said.
Speaker 1: This is she said, I absolutely can't really listen to
Speaker 1: your show at work because it gets crazy. But need
Speaker 1: more queer shit in my life, and so I like
Speaker 1: to listen to queer comedians while I'm working, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And you're on this week, girra. So mind, you had
Speaker 1: no idea that she knew who I was. And I
Speaker 1: leave Ashley's pod thinking I was wilding out.
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna know me there.
Speaker 7: I have five black listeners, yeah, yeah, and one of
Speaker 7: them happened to be someone you had a thresom work.
Speaker 3: Because you slept with a lot of my blacklisters.
Speaker 1: I mean I will continue to do.
Speaker 3: So I sleep with my black listeners, all of them.
Speaker 1: Speaking of black listeners, so I walk into Sour Mouse
Speaker 1: where Ashley has this residency on Sundays and it's in
Speaker 1: the Lower East Sides. I come through and she's like you, everybody,
Speaker 1: Wheezy's here, and no one says anything she does. You
Speaker 1: guys don't know she hasn't it up black.
Speaker 5: And then that made it so much more uncomfortable. I
Speaker 5: thought I was on her two laughs on it. You
Speaker 5: know what I mean just like I thought so too, but.
Speaker 3: Nothing, because white lesbians will not like you.
Speaker 1: You really to warm them up before. They'll laugh at
Speaker 1: something with the word black in.
Speaker 3: It, and the game says niggla like crazy, and they.
Speaker 1: Let it slide. They let it slide with you, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of if they don't very black. No, but like, okay,
Speaker 1: so I watch his sets a lot, right, we're friends.
Speaker 1: I'm going all the time. For some reason in that crowd,
Speaker 1: I was like saying it again, Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't think that they care.
Speaker 1: They don't care, or they're a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I get uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 7: Some black people do get on com the bull and
Speaker 7: I get that critique, and I'm also not going to
Speaker 7: change it.
Speaker 3: But I know, I'm curious about this because I've never
Speaker 3: because they feel like it's like an insider.
Speaker 7: They feel like you're saying you're not supposed to say
Speaker 7: it around white people because they feel like that subconsciously
Speaker 7: gives them the permission to say it. No, that's what
Speaker 7: some people think, and I'm like, no, not my people.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think either. But you know what's
Speaker 1: crazy about it? This I haven't.
Speaker 7: I haven't told you this. I was on a gay cruise.
Speaker 7: This was happened the first gay crewise I did so
Speaker 7: maybe two years ago. Only black people or one of
Speaker 7: the few black people on the gay cruises, okay, And
Speaker 7: I said, nigga a bunch in one of my sets,
Speaker 7: and I got a complain from a black couple.
Speaker 5: Oh see, this is that y, this is que're black
Speaker 5: art blacks, and you know what it's you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 7: They complained to a white man about me, and the
Speaker 7: white dude couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1: He was just like you just caught a snippet of
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