1 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:08,995 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of I heart radio. 2 00:00:24,675 --> 00:00:29,035 Speaker 1: Everybody know who Victor Marquetti was? Anybody know who Victor 3 00:00:29,075 --> 00:00:32,915 Speaker 1: Marquetti was? Well, you'll know now. Late last night, in 4 00:00:32,955 --> 00:00:35,515 Speaker 1: a filing to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals, the 5 00:00:35,555 --> 00:00:38,795 Speaker 1: Department of Justice hit Donald Trump in the groin with 6 00:00:38,915 --> 00:00:43,195 Speaker 1: a legal precedent that says basically, if it says classified 7 00:00:43,315 --> 00:00:47,235 Speaker 1: on the label, the document is still classified unless you 8 00:00:47,275 --> 00:00:51,035 Speaker 1: can prove it isn't. This is such a shot to 9 00:00:51,115 --> 00:00:53,955 Speaker 1: trump because earlier in the day his lawyers had filed 10 00:00:53,955 --> 00:00:55,955 Speaker 1: a forty page brief saying it is up to the 11 00:00:55,995 --> 00:01:01,235 Speaker 1: government to prove that the documents trump stole are still classified. 12 00:01:01,955 --> 00:01:05,635 Speaker 1: This was the victor Marquetti case. He was a CIA 13 00:01:05,755 --> 00:01:08,835 Speaker 1: executive who quit to write a tell all book using 14 00:01:08,915 --> 00:01:12,195 Speaker 1: classified documents, and the government went to court to censor 15 00:01:12,275 --> 00:01:14,715 Speaker 1: the book before it was even published. The courts in 16 00:01:16,315 --> 00:01:20,235 Speaker 1: ordered that a hundred and sixty eight passages be removed 17 00:01:20,395 --> 00:01:25,675 Speaker 1: because Marquetti had illegally used classified documents. Quoting the Fourth 18 00:01:25,715 --> 00:01:28,955 Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals, the presumption, in the absence of 19 00:01:28,995 --> 00:01:32,595 Speaker 1: affirmative proof to the contrary, requires the conclusion that all 20 00:01:32,715 --> 00:01:37,075 Speaker 1: information within it required by the executive order to be classified, 21 00:01:37,915 --> 00:01:41,275 Speaker 1: was classified when the legend was affixed to the document. 22 00:01:41,955 --> 00:01:46,155 Speaker 1: A case about classified documents and who has to prove 23 00:01:46,275 --> 00:01:51,955 Speaker 1: they are classified decided by another appeals court. It's perfect. 24 00:01:52,595 --> 00:01:55,515 Speaker 1: Trump's attorneys also told the appeals court that maybe some 25 00:01:55,595 --> 00:02:00,355 Speaker 1: of the classified documents maybe have handwritten notes, maybe by trump, 26 00:02:00,475 --> 00:02:03,715 Speaker 1: on them, and that makes them subject to executive privilege 27 00:02:03,955 --> 00:02:07,395 Speaker 1: forever after or to be known as this scribbled graffiti defense. 28 00:02:08,315 --> 00:02:12,915 Speaker 1: The Justice Department now has two different cases running simultaneously 29 00:02:12,995 --> 00:02:16,635 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump. It's already deep into the appeal against 30 00:02:16,675 --> 00:02:19,515 Speaker 1: Eileen Cannon's ruling that there should be a special master 31 00:02:19,715 --> 00:02:22,755 Speaker 1: at all, while it is still trying to get that 32 00:02:22,795 --> 00:02:26,515 Speaker 1: special master to rule for the government against trump. The 33 00:02:26,555 --> 00:02:29,995 Speaker 1: special master had his first hearing yesterday and Raymond Deary 34 00:02:30,035 --> 00:02:33,915 Speaker 1: said one thing that made all the headlines. Quoch. My 35 00:02:34,075 --> 00:02:36,915 Speaker 1: view of it is you can't have your cake and 36 00:02:36,995 --> 00:02:40,515 Speaker 1: eat it too. Deary saying that trump's lawyers about their 37 00:02:40,555 --> 00:02:42,875 Speaker 1: assinine claim that the government has to give him back 38 00:02:42,915 --> 00:02:47,155 Speaker 1: all the documents he stole because they're not classified, because 39 00:02:47,155 --> 00:02:50,195 Speaker 1: he declassified some of them. But they can't tell, Dearie, 40 00:02:50,235 --> 00:02:55,115 Speaker 1: which one's word declassified, Norwen. And he says you can't 41 00:02:55,155 --> 00:02:59,035 Speaker 1: have your cake and eat it too. Why does that 42 00:02:59,195 --> 00:03:03,915 Speaker 1: sound so familiar? In other words, deary recognize something that 43 00:03:03,955 --> 00:03:06,915 Speaker 1: trump appoint he cannon did not or would not, that 44 00:03:06,995 --> 00:03:11,515 Speaker 1: trump's entire defense is based on this premise keep your 45 00:03:11,555 --> 00:03:16,115 Speaker 1: cake and eat it too. That's me yesterday, the music 46 00:03:16,155 --> 00:03:20,595 Speaker 1: added as a distinguisher. It's that stupid, illegal argument from 47 00:03:20,635 --> 00:03:23,955 Speaker 1: the trump team. It's that obvious a judicial non starter 48 00:03:24,275 --> 00:03:27,635 Speaker 1: that even a layman who took exactly one law course 49 00:03:27,675 --> 00:03:31,435 Speaker 1: in his life forty five years ago, not only got it, 50 00:03:31,715 --> 00:03:34,955 Speaker 1: but got it and used the exact same metaphor the 51 00:03:35,075 --> 00:03:38,955 Speaker 1: judge would use just hours later. Plus, this was only 52 00:03:38,995 --> 00:03:42,555 Speaker 1: one of three devastating things deary said to trump's lawyers 53 00:03:42,715 --> 00:03:45,235 Speaker 1: in what was literally their first hour in the same 54 00:03:45,355 --> 00:03:49,035 Speaker 1: room with him as the special master they themselves had nominated. 55 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:53,235 Speaker 1: When they repeated that they could not reveal what trump declassified, Norwhen, 56 00:03:53,355 --> 00:03:58,075 Speaker 1: because that's their defense litigation strategy, deary replied, quote, I 57 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:01,395 Speaker 1: can't allow litigation strategy to dictate the outcome of my 58 00:04:01,515 --> 00:04:05,315 Speaker 1: recommendations to judge cannon and the final life in the 59 00:04:05,315 --> 00:04:08,915 Speaker 1: Trumpian hearts. Dear he summed it up thus Lee. If 60 00:04:08,915 --> 00:04:12,715 Speaker 1: the government says certain stolen documents are classified and trump's 61 00:04:12,755 --> 00:04:16,115 Speaker 1: team says they aren't, but they won't offer any proof 62 00:04:16,155 --> 00:04:19,875 Speaker 1: that they aren't. Quote, what am I looking at? As 63 00:04:19,875 --> 00:04:21,635 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it. What 64 00:04:21,755 --> 00:04:25,475 Speaker 1: business is it of the court just to pour salt 65 00:04:25,635 --> 00:04:29,715 Speaker 1: on that wound? Deary then ordered an outside contractor should 66 00:04:29,755 --> 00:04:33,955 Speaker 1: scan all eleven thousand documents and send the bill to 67 00:04:34,035 --> 00:04:37,995 Speaker 1: trump and then take the invoice for his own salary 68 00:04:38,115 --> 00:04:41,875 Speaker 1: as special master and send that bill to trump too. 69 00:04:42,835 --> 00:04:44,995 Speaker 1: I don't want to go way out on a limb here, 70 00:04:45,035 --> 00:04:48,035 Speaker 1: but I'm beginning to suspect trump's lawyers are not exactly 71 00:04:48,115 --> 00:04:51,395 Speaker 1: Clarence Darrow and Patty Glazer. And as soon as I 72 00:04:51,435 --> 00:04:55,715 Speaker 1: suspected that, boom, his lawyer, Elina Haba, goes on one 73 00:04:55,795 --> 00:04:59,955 Speaker 1: of the endless conservative networks last night and screws up 74 00:05:00,475 --> 00:05:04,155 Speaker 1: the months of the year. The Department of Justice filed 75 00:05:04,195 --> 00:05:08,875 Speaker 1: this crazy raid, pretending it's all these criminal actions because 76 00:05:08,915 --> 00:05:12,115 Speaker 1: it's around the corner to November, and this is what 77 00:05:12,195 --> 00:05:14,835 Speaker 1: we like to call an October surprise, which we've seen before. 78 00:05:15,235 --> 00:05:21,475 Speaker 1: A good old October surprise carried out on August the eight. Well, 79 00:05:21,995 --> 00:05:25,475 Speaker 1: why do you think they call it a surprise? Trump, too, 80 00:05:25,595 --> 00:05:27,435 Speaker 1: screwed up in front of an open mic as he 81 00:05:27,515 --> 00:05:30,035 Speaker 1: complained again about the search of his living quarters and 82 00:05:30,075 --> 00:05:33,035 Speaker 1: what a mess he claims the FBI made. You'd have 83 00:05:33,075 --> 00:05:35,275 Speaker 1: thought somebody would have cleaned it up by now. It 84 00:05:35,435 --> 00:05:39,195 Speaker 1: was August eight, and how it's all captured on surveillance video, 85 00:05:39,235 --> 00:05:41,475 Speaker 1: which of course he can't release and where the rest 86 00:05:41,475 --> 00:05:47,355 Speaker 1: of his see. Because something. But after trump's coup attempt 87 00:05:47,435 --> 00:05:51,475 Speaker 1: and his stochastic terrorist calls last weekend for insurrection and bloodshed, 88 00:05:51,755 --> 00:05:54,355 Speaker 1: and with the upcoming resumption of the House January six 89 00:05:54,435 --> 00:05:58,515 Speaker 1: committee hearings, what would be the worst comparison for him 90 00:05:58,555 --> 00:06:03,875 Speaker 1: to use in characterizing the condition of a bedroom? It's 91 00:06:03,915 --> 00:06:06,915 Speaker 1: not a pretty pick share either. It looks like a 92 00:06:08,035 --> 00:06:12,115 Speaker 1: military coup. It's not a pretty picture. A military coup, 93 00:06:12,675 --> 00:06:16,715 Speaker 1: a military coup. Can't imagine what brought a military coup 94 00:06:16,755 --> 00:06:21,595 Speaker 1: to baby Hitler's mind, can you? Trump's other active legal 95 00:06:21,715 --> 00:06:25,155 Speaker 1: nightmare seemed ready for new developments. Two days after she 96 00:06:25,315 --> 00:06:28,235 Speaker 1: rejected a settlement offer from the trump organization for its 97 00:06:28,275 --> 00:06:32,435 Speaker 1: latest business crookedness, New York Attorney General Tish James scheduled 98 00:06:32,435 --> 00:06:36,635 Speaker 1: a quote, major announcement for ten thirty eastern time Wednesday morning. 99 00:06:37,515 --> 00:06:41,275 Speaker 1: As to the other would be fascist. President, as rumors 100 00:06:41,355 --> 00:06:45,395 Speaker 1: raged of additional upcoming flights filled with kidnapped asylum seekers, 101 00:06:45,755 --> 00:06:48,555 Speaker 1: three of the human trafficking victims of Rohan de Santis 102 00:06:48,595 --> 00:06:50,955 Speaker 1: have filed a class action suit against him and other 103 00:06:50,995 --> 00:06:55,435 Speaker 1: members of the Florida mob. They want compensatory damages, emotional 104 00:06:55,475 --> 00:06:59,315 Speaker 1: distress damages and punitive damages for all the victims and 105 00:06:59,395 --> 00:07:01,995 Speaker 1: they want de Santis and the others to be enjoined 106 00:07:01,995 --> 00:07:06,995 Speaker 1: from inducing any more of these refugees or asylum seekers 107 00:07:07,035 --> 00:07:11,435 Speaker 1: to participate in another premeditated, fraudulent and illegal scheme for 108 00:07:11,435 --> 00:07:14,635 Speaker 1: the sole purpose of advancing their own personal, financial and 109 00:07:14,675 --> 00:07:18,515 Speaker 1: political interests. That's the civil end of that case. We 110 00:07:18,675 --> 00:07:22,035 Speaker 1: now have gotten an expert assessment of what criminal risk 111 00:07:22,115 --> 00:07:25,555 Speaker 1: de Santis could be at the Cornell Law Professor Michael 112 00:07:25,635 --> 00:07:30,635 Speaker 1: Dorff writes that under Texas law, no, this was not kidnapping, 113 00:07:30,635 --> 00:07:34,515 Speaker 1: because Texas law requires use of force or threat of 114 00:07:34,595 --> 00:07:38,235 Speaker 1: force for it to be kidnapping. But doff says de 115 00:07:38,355 --> 00:07:41,595 Speaker 1: Santis and his henchmen may have broken another Texas law, 116 00:07:41,675 --> 00:07:46,155 Speaker 1: called unlawful restraint. Doff writes. De Santis has pretty clearly 117 00:07:46,195 --> 00:07:50,195 Speaker 1: committed that crime because it requires only deception, like telling 118 00:07:50,235 --> 00:07:52,755 Speaker 1: them you are flying them to Boston for jobs and 119 00:07:52,955 --> 00:07:55,515 Speaker 1: eight months financial support, when in fact you are flying 120 00:07:55,515 --> 00:07:59,755 Speaker 1: them to Martha's vineyard to own the libs. And yet 121 00:07:59,795 --> 00:08:02,835 Speaker 1: again a principle in one of these cases said something 122 00:08:02,995 --> 00:08:06,315 Speaker 1: really stupid with am in front of his face. This 123 00:08:06,435 --> 00:08:09,475 Speaker 1: is de Santis on the rationale for trying to lure 124 00:08:09,675 --> 00:08:13,395 Speaker 1: and capture a large group of migrants in Texas when 125 00:08:13,435 --> 00:08:17,035 Speaker 1: you are the governor of Florida. He explains that the 126 00:08:17,155 --> 00:08:21,795 Speaker 1: main destination for that group of people in Texas is Florida, 127 00:08:21,875 --> 00:08:24,795 Speaker 1: but they don't usually travel in groups as large as 128 00:08:24,835 --> 00:08:28,475 Speaker 1: forty eight. So you have to deceive them. We're not 129 00:08:28,555 --> 00:08:31,595 Speaker 1: seeing mass movements of them into Florida. So you end 130 00:08:31,675 --> 00:08:34,235 Speaker 1: up with a car with maybe two and if we 131 00:08:34,355 --> 00:08:36,675 Speaker 1: know that that's illegal and there's someone that's kind of 132 00:08:36,675 --> 00:08:39,555 Speaker 1: smuggling then committing crime, then you can do arrest. There 133 00:08:39,635 --> 00:08:43,235 Speaker 1: have been drug seizures, but that's not effective enough to 134 00:08:43,315 --> 00:08:46,635 Speaker 1: stop the mass migration. But it's just coming in. Onesie Tuesies, 135 00:08:47,275 --> 00:08:51,995 Speaker 1: Onesie twosies, an adult, an adult who is the governor 136 00:08:52,075 --> 00:08:54,795 Speaker 1: of Florida and thinks he could be president of the 137 00:08:54,875 --> 00:08:59,595 Speaker 1: United States. Onesie, two Z ease, you know it's actually 138 00:08:59,595 --> 00:09:03,915 Speaker 1: coming in. Onesie, twosies, Rhonda, the years of your upcoming 139 00:09:04,075 --> 00:09:08,835 Speaker 1: prison terms. Lastly, let me circle back to trump, because 140 00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:11,035 Speaker 1: one of the great drive bys in the history of 141 00:09:11,075 --> 00:09:16,835 Speaker 1: twitter cannot go unrecognized here. At PM Tuesday, Maggie Haberman 142 00:09:16,875 --> 00:09:20,155 Speaker 1: of the New York Times tweeted quote. As trump has 143 00:09:20,155 --> 00:09:22,355 Speaker 1: been out of office over the last twenty months, a 144 00:09:22,515 --> 00:09:25,835 Speaker 1: rotating cast of AIDS has been tasked with following him 145 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:28,635 Speaker 1: around the golf course at the club he's at and 146 00:09:28,715 --> 00:09:33,275 Speaker 1: giving him positive reinforcement from twitter and wherever else they 147 00:09:33,315 --> 00:09:38,355 Speaker 1: find it on the web. For people told of the practice, 148 00:09:38,755 --> 00:09:42,435 Speaker 1: to which, at five, the comedian Greg proops, of whose 149 00:09:42,435 --> 00:09:46,635 Speaker 1: line is it anyway fame, answered to Haberman. Quote. How 150 00:09:46,675 --> 00:09:50,595 Speaker 1: do you like the job so far? Services from Miss 151 00:09:50,595 --> 00:10:03,315 Speaker 1: Haberman's reputation will be Thursday from five to eight. Still 152 00:10:03,355 --> 00:10:06,675 Speaker 1: Ahead on countdown sport, Aaron Judge Hits his sixty homer 153 00:10:06,755 --> 00:10:09,155 Speaker 1: as many as Babe Ruth. Of course, by contrast to 154 00:10:09,195 --> 00:10:12,235 Speaker 1: the ballparks in Babe Ruth's Day, the ones judging judges 155 00:10:12,315 --> 00:10:15,875 Speaker 1: playing in her tiny with short dimensions and no foul territory. 156 00:10:16,035 --> 00:10:20,235 Speaker 1: But sixty is sixty. Senator Ron Johnson on white supremacy. 157 00:10:20,315 --> 00:10:23,075 Speaker 1: I condone it. No, not, not, not, condoned. What is 158 00:10:23,115 --> 00:10:30,875 Speaker 1: the word? Condone? Condiment, Confetti, conflagration, worsts. Who's that entering 159 00:10:30,875 --> 00:10:33,995 Speaker 1: Westminster Abbey? Is it one of the queen's distant cousins? 160 00:10:34,515 --> 00:10:37,235 Speaker 1: Is it Lucy lawless? Is it a woman billiards player? 161 00:10:37,755 --> 00:10:41,755 Speaker 1: Is it a man? And Address? Australian television gets it really, 162 00:10:42,155 --> 00:10:45,475 Speaker 1: really wrong, and in things I promised not to tell. 163 00:10:45,515 --> 00:10:50,715 Speaker 1: There was MS, Microsoft and NBC, NBC, and they made 164 00:10:50,915 --> 00:10:54,075 Speaker 1: MSNBC and hired me. And the day I was to 165 00:10:54,115 --> 00:10:57,235 Speaker 1: meet the chief Ms Guy, the chief NBC Guy said 166 00:10:57,595 --> 00:11:00,155 Speaker 1: the Ms Guys were only supposed to give us money 167 00:11:00,155 --> 00:11:02,715 Speaker 1: in computer terminals. That's it. Don't tell me we have 168 00:11:02,795 --> 00:11:05,915 Speaker 1: to synergize cable television and the Internet, whatever the hell 169 00:11:05,995 --> 00:11:09,835 Speaker 1: the Internet is. Years later and I can still remember 170 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:21,675 Speaker 1: it word for word. That's next. This is countdown. This 171 00:11:21,875 --> 00:11:30,075 Speaker 1: is countdown, with Keith, Alberman and Richards still ahead. On countdown. 172 00:11:30,195 --> 00:11:33,835 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson endorses white supremacy, then tries to walk it 173 00:11:33,875 --> 00:11:37,515 Speaker 1: back and Australian News anchors think that woman arriving at 174 00:11:37,515 --> 00:11:40,795 Speaker 1: the queen's funeral was some sort of distant relative. Boy, 175 00:11:40,875 --> 00:11:44,875 Speaker 1: were in for a surprise. Worst persons. Coming up first. 176 00:11:44,955 --> 00:11:47,075 Speaker 1: In each edition of countdown we feature a dog in 177 00:11:47,155 --> 00:11:49,995 Speaker 1: need whom you can help. Every dog has its day 178 00:11:50,035 --> 00:11:53,555 Speaker 1: to the Mexican border and hooch and a microcosm of 179 00:11:53,595 --> 00:11:57,235 Speaker 1: the nightmare of places where strays roam under a punishing 180 00:11:57,275 --> 00:12:00,435 Speaker 1: Sun until they get rescued or hit by a car, 181 00:12:01,115 --> 00:12:04,115 Speaker 1: which is accident. came. It broke both his back legs. 182 00:12:04,435 --> 00:12:07,395 Speaker 1: He crawled away to the bushes to die. Then his 183 00:12:07,475 --> 00:12:09,595 Speaker 1: rescue came. He was found in time, but besides the 184 00:12:09,635 --> 00:12:13,355 Speaker 1: broken legs, he has internal problems and worms. Hooch is 185 00:12:13,355 --> 00:12:16,755 Speaker 1: a sweet, medium sized, Light Brown stray with haunting eyes. 186 00:12:17,275 --> 00:12:20,875 Speaker 1: Somehow he survived. Rescue Dogs Rock is fundraising on giving 187 00:12:20,875 --> 00:12:23,755 Speaker 1: grid for his surgery and treatment and placement with a 188 00:12:23,795 --> 00:12:27,715 Speaker 1: forever family. To donate, search hooch on giving grid or 189 00:12:27,755 --> 00:12:29,875 Speaker 1: just go to my twitter feed for dogs in trouble, 190 00:12:29,915 --> 00:12:32,795 Speaker 1: Tom Jumbo Grumbo and see the tweet that I did 191 00:12:32,835 --> 00:12:46,435 Speaker 1: for hooch and thank you very much. Coming up and countdown. 192 00:12:46,475 --> 00:12:50,715 Speaker 1: Don't tell me that I have to synergize cable television 193 00:12:50,755 --> 00:12:54,835 Speaker 1: and the Internet, whatever the Internet is. The president of 194 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:59,035 Speaker 1: NBC News said that to me twenty five years ago 195 00:12:59,115 --> 00:13:01,715 Speaker 1: this week. I'm still trying to get over it. Don't 196 00:13:01,755 --> 00:13:06,195 Speaker 1: tell me whatever the Internet is for. postscripts to the news, 197 00:13:06,195 --> 00:13:15,275 Speaker 1: some headlines, some commentaries, some snark. Dateline Madison, Wisconsin. Dr 198 00:13:15,435 --> 00:13:19,995 Speaker 1: Freud has entered the Wisconsin Senate chat. Incumbent Ron Johnson 199 00:13:20,395 --> 00:13:24,315 Speaker 1: R Russia was discussing his experiences on the Senate Homeland 200 00:13:24,315 --> 00:13:28,555 Speaker 1: Security Committee when he had an unfortunate truth burp. Would 201 00:13:28,595 --> 00:13:31,755 Speaker 1: have an annual threat hearing and my ranking member would 202 00:13:31,795 --> 00:13:34,715 Speaker 1: always been bringing up voice supremacy, which you know I condone. 203 00:13:35,035 --> 00:13:39,875 Speaker 1: I mean I I condemned, but well, no condone. Honestly. 204 00:13:40,195 --> 00:13:43,275 Speaker 1: Dateline Washington. Brett bear of Fox nudes, who will tell 205 00:13:43,275 --> 00:13:46,035 Speaker 1: you on the air or in print or especially in person, 206 00:13:46,115 --> 00:13:48,315 Speaker 1: that he is a straight down the middle journalist and 207 00:13:48,475 --> 00:13:51,875 Speaker 1: not a propagandist whore. Look at his jaw. Well, he's 208 00:13:51,875 --> 00:13:55,475 Speaker 1: a propagandist whore. The new trump book, the divider, reports 209 00:13:55,515 --> 00:13:58,795 Speaker 1: that after Fox called Arizona for Joe Biden on election night, 210 00:13:59,755 --> 00:14:03,555 Speaker 1: bear tried to get the call rescinded. He emailed the 211 00:14:03,595 --> 00:14:07,035 Speaker 1: president and executive editor at Fox and wrote, quote, the 212 00:14:07,035 --> 00:14:10,635 Speaker 1: trump campaign was really piste. This situation is getting uncomfortable. 213 00:14:10,795 --> 00:14:13,595 Speaker 1: I keep having to defend this on air. It's hurting us. 214 00:14:13,755 --> 00:14:15,875 Speaker 1: The sooner we pull it, even if it gives us 215 00:14:16,035 --> 00:14:19,275 Speaker 1: major egg and we put it back in trump's column, 216 00:14:19,315 --> 00:14:22,235 Speaker 1: the better we are. In my opinion, this is the 217 00:14:22,275 --> 00:14:26,035 Speaker 1: paragon of journalism that CNN's new crazy old man owner 218 00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:30,195 Speaker 1: John Malone and his henchman, chief chairman and chair president, 219 00:14:30,315 --> 00:14:33,635 Speaker 1: and whatever Chris licked. When we were at MSNBC together, 220 00:14:33,675 --> 00:14:36,235 Speaker 1: I used to think eight pacede used as the paragon 221 00:14:36,315 --> 00:14:39,755 Speaker 1: that anchor should emulate on the new CNN. Bear has 222 00:14:39,755 --> 00:14:43,675 Speaker 1: issued a statement to business insider. Quote. The full context 223 00:14:43,715 --> 00:14:45,875 Speaker 1: of the email is not reported in this book. Will 224 00:14:46,035 --> 00:14:50,955 Speaker 1: provide the context. Brett, you're a propagandist whore. Also Dateline 225 00:14:50,995 --> 00:14:53,995 Speaker 1: Fox nudes. Tucker Carlson has again called on his viewers 226 00:14:53,995 --> 00:14:57,755 Speaker 1: to assault or kill people, targeting any teacher or other 227 00:14:57,795 --> 00:15:02,875 Speaker 1: individual who tells children about the Lgbtq community. Quote. No 228 00:15:03,155 --> 00:15:06,115 Speaker 1: parents should put up with this one second. No matter 229 00:15:06,195 --> 00:15:09,555 Speaker 1: what the law says. Your moral duty is to defend 230 00:15:09,675 --> 00:15:12,555 Speaker 1: your children. This is an attack on your children. And 231 00:15:12,635 --> 00:15:16,315 Speaker 1: you should fight back. Well, besides the obvious homophobia and 232 00:15:16,395 --> 00:15:20,075 Speaker 1: incitement to violence, the Jiminy Glick of the pretend news 233 00:15:20,115 --> 00:15:22,795 Speaker 1: game forgets here that if you say what he said, 234 00:15:23,235 --> 00:15:26,155 Speaker 1: somebody else could say quote. No Americans should put up 235 00:15:26,195 --> 00:15:28,755 Speaker 1: with this for one second. No matter what the law says. 236 00:15:28,795 --> 00:15:32,115 Speaker 1: Your moral duty is to defend your country. Tucker Carlson 237 00:15:32,195 --> 00:15:34,675 Speaker 1: is an attack on your country and you should fight 238 00:15:34,755 --> 00:15:53,435 Speaker 1: back and quote. This is sports center. Wait, check that, 239 00:15:54,555 --> 00:16:02,435 Speaker 1: not anymore. This is countdown with Keith. In Sports, Marie 240 00:16:02,515 --> 00:16:04,795 Speaker 1: Wills has died. He was the captain of the Laws 241 00:16:04,795 --> 00:16:08,435 Speaker 1: Angeles dodgers, the man who almost single handedly reintroduced the 242 00:16:08,515 --> 00:16:11,635 Speaker 1: stolen base. He broke the all time record for steels, 243 00:16:11,635 --> 00:16:14,315 Speaker 1: he won the Most Valuable Player award in nineteen sixty two, 244 00:16:14,315 --> 00:16:16,835 Speaker 1: in a season in which he only got twenty nine 245 00:16:16,915 --> 00:16:20,115 Speaker 1: extra base hits, and he drove the dodgers to world 246 00:16:20,195 --> 00:16:23,475 Speaker 1: championships in nineteen fifty nine, nineteen sixty three and nineteen 247 00:16:23,515 --> 00:16:27,035 Speaker 1: sixty five, when they could not hit a lick. Moriy 248 00:16:27,035 --> 00:16:30,035 Speaker 1: wills died about two weeks shy of his ninetieth birthday, 249 00:16:30,075 --> 00:16:33,715 Speaker 1: after a lifetime of being underappreciated. He Played Eleven D 250 00:16:33,795 --> 00:16:36,715 Speaker 1: Minor League Games before finally getting his first big league 251 00:16:36,795 --> 00:16:39,915 Speaker 1: chance at the age of twenty six. Twice, other teams, 252 00:16:40,035 --> 00:16:42,915 Speaker 1: the reds in nineteen fifty seven the Tigers in nineteen 253 00:16:42,915 --> 00:16:47,035 Speaker 1: fifty nine, drafted him from the dodgers minor league farm system, 254 00:16:47,075 --> 00:16:49,435 Speaker 1: only to try him out and then send him back 255 00:16:49,515 --> 00:16:52,915 Speaker 1: to the dodgers. The Baseball Card company tops went to 256 00:16:52,915 --> 00:16:56,115 Speaker 1: photograph all the prospects in spring training one year and 257 00:16:56,235 --> 00:16:59,315 Speaker 1: his wills prepared to pose. They said, we don't need 258 00:16:59,315 --> 00:17:02,155 Speaker 1: a photo of you. You'RE NOT gonna make it. Fifteen Times, 259 00:17:02,195 --> 00:17:04,555 Speaker 1: the voting writers overlooked him for the hall of fame, 260 00:17:04,795 --> 00:17:07,435 Speaker 1: and Veterans Committees did the same at least as many times. 261 00:17:07,795 --> 00:17:11,115 Speaker 1: Traded by the dodgers because owner Walter o'malley was angry 262 00:17:11,115 --> 00:17:13,595 Speaker 1: and wanted to teach him a lesson, he returned to 263 00:17:13,755 --> 00:17:16,235 Speaker 1: l a three years later and in nineteen seventy one, 264 00:17:16,275 --> 00:17:19,555 Speaker 1: at the age of thirty eight, start at shortstop led 265 00:17:19,595 --> 00:17:21,515 Speaker 1: them into the postseason for the first time since they 266 00:17:21,555 --> 00:17:24,275 Speaker 1: had traded him, and he finished sixth in the voting 267 00:17:24,315 --> 00:17:27,275 Speaker 1: for most valuable player. As a thirty eight year old shortstop, 268 00:17:27,715 --> 00:17:30,155 Speaker 1: moriy wills was also an analyst on the baseball game 269 00:17:30,155 --> 00:17:32,475 Speaker 1: of the week and he managed the Seattle Mariners and 270 00:17:32,515 --> 00:17:35,835 Speaker 1: he recovered from cocaine addiction and went on to nurture 271 00:17:35,915 --> 00:17:39,675 Speaker 1: dodger prospects for twenty five years. He's a hall of Famer. 272 00:17:40,115 --> 00:17:43,035 Speaker 1: Only baseball could have been stupid enough and cruel enough 273 00:17:43,075 --> 00:17:47,235 Speaker 1: to let him die without acknowledging that. And a note 274 00:17:47,235 --> 00:17:51,315 Speaker 1: from hockey. Three veteran defenseman retired on the same day 275 00:17:51,435 --> 00:17:55,915 Speaker 1: after a combined fifty three seasons in the National Hockey League. Zadano, Chara, 276 00:17:56,075 --> 00:18:00,675 Speaker 1: Keith Yandel and P K Su ban wait PK suban retired. 277 00:18:01,635 --> 00:18:19,515 Speaker 1: How will they be able to tell Stella had a 278 00:18:19,595 --> 00:18:21,755 Speaker 1: quarter century has passed since the night the president of 279 00:18:21,835 --> 00:18:25,675 Speaker 1: Msnbc told me to ignore his partners from Microsoft. They 280 00:18:25,675 --> 00:18:28,395 Speaker 1: were the M S and MSNBC, and he said the Internet, 281 00:18:28,635 --> 00:18:31,635 Speaker 1: whatever the hell the Internet is things I promised not 282 00:18:31,715 --> 00:18:34,235 Speaker 1: to tell. Coming up first, the daily roundup of the miscreants, 283 00:18:34,275 --> 00:18:38,395 Speaker 1: Morons and Dunning Kruger effect specimens who constitute today's worst 284 00:18:38,475 --> 00:18:42,195 Speaker 1: persons in the world. It's an audio daily double here 285 00:18:42,475 --> 00:18:46,515 Speaker 1: the bronze goes to GOP chairwoman ronna Romney mcdaniel. The 286 00:18:46,635 --> 00:18:50,155 Speaker 1: current made up out of whole cloth Republican scare tactic, 287 00:18:50,195 --> 00:18:53,435 Speaker 1: the idea that the drug fentonel can kill you if 288 00:18:53,475 --> 00:18:56,315 Speaker 1: you just touch it, which is wildly untrue and, if 289 00:18:56,315 --> 00:18:59,195 Speaker 1: you think about it, would also really hinder its usefulness. 290 00:18:59,275 --> 00:19:01,955 Speaker 1: Is a recreational drug, which is what it supposedly is 291 00:19:01,995 --> 00:19:04,675 Speaker 1: here for. But the Republicans are sticking to this nonsense 292 00:19:05,075 --> 00:19:09,715 Speaker 1: and Rona mcdaniel has now taken it to extremes. I mean, 293 00:19:09,715 --> 00:19:12,675 Speaker 1: just last month two thousand pounds of Fentinel came across 294 00:19:12,675 --> 00:19:14,995 Speaker 1: our border that that could kill five million people were 295 00:19:14,995 --> 00:19:17,475 Speaker 1: coming into Halloween. Every mom in the country right now 296 00:19:17,595 --> 00:19:19,955 Speaker 1: is worried. What if this gets into my kid's Halloween basket? 297 00:19:20,155 --> 00:19:22,035 Speaker 1: and every mom in the country is worried the two 298 00:19:22,035 --> 00:19:24,195 Speaker 1: thousand pounds of Fentil is gonna get into their kids 299 00:19:24,275 --> 00:19:28,715 Speaker 1: Halloween basket. A if touching fentil kills you, how does 300 00:19:28,755 --> 00:19:31,275 Speaker 1: the guy get it into your kid's Halloween basket be? 301 00:19:31,915 --> 00:19:34,995 Speaker 1: What kind of neighborhood do you live in, Rana and see? 302 00:19:35,155 --> 00:19:37,475 Speaker 1: What kind of basket are you sending your kids out 303 00:19:37,475 --> 00:19:39,915 Speaker 1: with on Halloween that it can carry two thousand pounds 304 00:19:39,915 --> 00:19:43,635 Speaker 1: of anything? Our runners up more audio. The people behind 305 00:19:43,675 --> 00:19:47,395 Speaker 1: this great moment in broadcasting left over from Queen Elizabeth's funeral, 306 00:19:47,755 --> 00:19:52,675 Speaker 1: Peter Overton and Tracy grimshaw anchoring the coverage for Australia's 307 00:19:52,755 --> 00:19:56,875 Speaker 1: Channel Nine as mourners arrived at Westminster Abbey. A woman 308 00:19:56,915 --> 00:19:59,395 Speaker 1: in a black hat that looked like a nineteenth century 309 00:19:59,435 --> 00:20:03,435 Speaker 1: maid's cap walking awkwardly from a car, a man alongside 310 00:20:03,435 --> 00:20:08,635 Speaker 1: her and the anchor just guess that she's the Duchess 311 00:20:08,715 --> 00:20:15,955 Speaker 1: of backwater something. No how to identify. Maybe mono royals, 312 00:20:16,115 --> 00:20:20,195 Speaker 1: members of a I can't identify him at this point, unfortunately. 313 00:20:20,835 --> 00:20:23,475 Speaker 1: They look like they can will be local coun treats. 314 00:20:23,515 --> 00:20:24,955 Speaker 1: It's hard to see if we're looking at the x 315 00:20:25,035 --> 00:20:27,035 Speaker 1: of the I think we are now getting to the 316 00:20:27,035 --> 00:20:31,275 Speaker 1: point end, as they say, of the I'm just told 317 00:20:31,315 --> 00:20:33,555 Speaker 1: that was least trust the new priminister in the distance 318 00:20:33,555 --> 00:20:36,675 Speaker 1: that we could see. Thank you very much. It's not 319 00:20:36,755 --> 00:20:42,315 Speaker 1: the point of end. That's the prime minister. Once again, 320 00:20:42,355 --> 00:20:44,995 Speaker 1: the MONTY python sketch comes to mind. Hot enough to 321 00:20:45,035 --> 00:20:48,755 Speaker 1: boil monkeys bum that's a strange expression. Brace I had 322 00:20:48,755 --> 00:20:50,875 Speaker 1: the prime minister say it. It's hard enough to boil 323 00:20:50,915 --> 00:20:54,035 Speaker 1: a monkey's bumming here, Your Majesty, and she smoiled quartly 324 00:20:54,075 --> 00:20:58,035 Speaker 1: to herself, apparently not knowing Liz Trust for some scullery 325 00:20:58,075 --> 00:21:00,635 Speaker 1: made was the least of channel nine Australia's problems at 326 00:21:00,635 --> 00:21:04,755 Speaker 1: the funeral. Morning hosts Karl stefanovitch started coverage of the 327 00:21:04,795 --> 00:21:08,595 Speaker 1: funeral by saying, quote, welcome to what is probably the 328 00:21:08,635 --> 00:21:12,715 Speaker 1: greatest show on earth, and she smiled quietly to herself. 329 00:21:13,795 --> 00:21:17,315 Speaker 1: But our winners, the seventeen seventy six restoration movement, a 330 00:21:17,355 --> 00:21:21,235 Speaker 1: bunch of seditionists and January six apologists who claim that 331 00:21:21,275 --> 00:21:24,155 Speaker 1: they are U s military veterans. They announced their latest 332 00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:28,635 Speaker 1: strategy contact the Veterans Administration and Complain About January six 333 00:21:28,755 --> 00:21:31,875 Speaker 1: insurrectionists who were in the service who are still in jail. 334 00:21:32,275 --> 00:21:35,195 Speaker 1: They filmed themselves giving out what they called the V 335 00:21:35,355 --> 00:21:38,675 Speaker 1: a crisis line number and told everybody to call and 336 00:21:38,715 --> 00:21:43,115 Speaker 1: complain about January six. Except the seventeen seventy six restoration 337 00:21:43,195 --> 00:21:46,995 Speaker 1: movement members, are too stupid to understand what crisis means 338 00:21:47,195 --> 00:21:50,755 Speaker 1: in the phrase crisis line. Their sheep did all call 339 00:21:51,075 --> 00:21:54,115 Speaker 1: and they jammed the line with whiny complaints and the 340 00:21:54,155 --> 00:22:02,115 Speaker 1: phone line was the veterans administration suicide hot line. Good Work, idiots. Seventeen, 341 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:08,195 Speaker 1: seventy six restoration movement scum, today's worst persons in the world, 342 00:22:21,235 --> 00:22:23,235 Speaker 1: to the top of the countdown on our number one 343 00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:26,235 Speaker 1: story and my favorite topic, me and things I promised 344 00:22:26,235 --> 00:22:30,435 Speaker 1: not to tell. and Saturday is twenty five years since 345 00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:33,595 Speaker 1: the moment I realized that there was something crazy built 346 00:22:33,595 --> 00:22:37,515 Speaker 1: into the structure of NBC News and in fact built 347 00:22:37,515 --> 00:22:41,115 Speaker 1: into the structure of television news. On the night of 348 00:22:41,195 --> 00:22:46,315 Speaker 1: Wednesday Septem I was told to show up at six 349 00:22:46,395 --> 00:22:49,075 Speaker 1: thirty PM at the apartment of Phil Griffin on Central 350 00:22:49,075 --> 00:22:52,675 Speaker 1: Park West in Manhattan. Dinner with Phil and his wife Corey, 351 00:22:53,115 --> 00:22:56,515 Speaker 1: and Andy lack and his wife Betsy, and Jeff Zucker 352 00:22:56,955 --> 00:22:59,955 Speaker 1: and Merril Brown was at seven pm, but I was 353 00:22:59,955 --> 00:23:03,555 Speaker 1: supposed to be there at sixty. One Week and ninety 354 00:23:03,555 --> 00:23:07,515 Speaker 1: minutes later we were all launching my new newscast on MSNBC, 355 00:23:07,675 --> 00:23:09,555 Speaker 1: and it didn't get much newer than this. I had 356 00:23:09,595 --> 00:23:15,555 Speaker 1: done some newscasts in college as recently as waiteen years prior. 357 00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:18,115 Speaker 1: Twice in local news I had been pressed into service 358 00:23:18,155 --> 00:23:20,995 Speaker 1: as a news field reporter, and once in l a 359 00:23:21,555 --> 00:23:25,355 Speaker 1: when our married newscaster anchored couple, Jim Lampley and bree 360 00:23:25,355 --> 00:23:27,395 Speaker 1: Walker were late coming back from dinner. I had to 361 00:23:27,395 --> 00:23:30,995 Speaker 1: do the live teas for Channel Two Action News at eleven, 362 00:23:31,075 --> 00:23:32,675 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the airing of the show 363 00:23:32,795 --> 00:23:36,315 Speaker 1: Falcon crest on CBS, and I started it by saying hi, 364 00:23:36,755 --> 00:23:38,995 Speaker 1: Jim and bree, can't come to the TV right now. 365 00:23:39,235 --> 00:23:41,995 Speaker 1: Here's what they'll have for you at eleven. But I 366 00:23:42,035 --> 00:23:44,635 Speaker 1: had not done more than fifteen minutes of news in 367 00:23:44,675 --> 00:23:48,835 Speaker 1: a row in my life. One week later I would 368 00:23:48,875 --> 00:23:51,835 Speaker 1: become the Lynch pin in the lineup on MSNBC, which 369 00:23:51,835 --> 00:23:53,635 Speaker 1: itself had only been doing news for a year and 370 00:23:53,715 --> 00:23:57,915 Speaker 1: nine weeks. So when Andy Lack, the president of NBC News, 371 00:23:57,955 --> 00:24:00,635 Speaker 1: and Zooker, then the executive producer of the today show 372 00:24:01,035 --> 00:24:05,875 Speaker 1: and unofficial chief executive of MSNBC, and Griffin, executive producer 373 00:24:05,875 --> 00:24:08,955 Speaker 1: of my new newscast, called the big show said show 374 00:24:09,035 --> 00:24:11,835 Speaker 1: up at six thirty, Alderman, I just assumed we were 375 00:24:11,835 --> 00:24:13,995 Speaker 1: going to have some final discussion of what we should 376 00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:16,835 Speaker 1: be doing during the series, or at least during the 377 00:24:16,835 --> 00:24:20,155 Speaker 1: first show, or at least three the first segment, because 378 00:24:20,195 --> 00:24:21,755 Speaker 1: we were a week out and I really didn't have 379 00:24:21,755 --> 00:24:24,315 Speaker 1: any clues to what they expected the show to look like. 380 00:24:24,835 --> 00:24:28,035 Speaker 1: Or what they expected me to say. I kept mentioning 381 00:24:28,035 --> 00:24:31,115 Speaker 1: that I was fascinated by something called the mandel brought set, 382 00:24:31,715 --> 00:24:37,795 Speaker 1: which is, in real Lehman's essence, mathematical formula which, if 383 00:24:37,795 --> 00:24:40,035 Speaker 1: you keep running it long enough in a computer, eventually 384 00:24:40,075 --> 00:24:42,995 Speaker 1: turns into the shapes of all the leaves and the 385 00:24:43,035 --> 00:24:47,435 Speaker 1: tales of sea lions and everything else from nature. When 386 00:24:47,475 --> 00:24:50,515 Speaker 1: I mentioned the Mandelbrot set to one of the show producers, 387 00:24:50,515 --> 00:24:55,955 Speaker 1: he nodded enthusiastically and smilingly and then said in evident seriousness, great, 388 00:24:56,315 --> 00:24:58,755 Speaker 1: we can do that after we do the first half 389 00:24:58,755 --> 00:25:01,635 Speaker 1: an hour on the murder of Jehan Ben a Ramsey. 390 00:25:02,635 --> 00:25:05,315 Speaker 1: I had just moved into my new apartment ten blocks 391 00:25:05,355 --> 00:25:09,515 Speaker 1: south of Griffin's. I had left ESPN, a perfectly successful 392 00:25:09,555 --> 00:25:12,035 Speaker 1: time for me, and a nice enough but very remote 393 00:25:12,035 --> 00:25:15,915 Speaker 1: place called Bristol, Connecticut, which didn't really have sidewalks, and 394 00:25:15,955 --> 00:25:19,275 Speaker 1: so I walked uptown with a mixture pride, excitement and 395 00:25:19,315 --> 00:25:23,795 Speaker 1: apprehension and on sidewalks by the time I was within 396 00:25:23,915 --> 00:25:25,995 Speaker 1: five blocks. I was hoping I'd be able to talk 397 00:25:26,035 --> 00:25:28,675 Speaker 1: them into one show a week where we talked about 398 00:25:28,675 --> 00:25:32,475 Speaker 1: stuff like the Mandel brought set. I arrived right on time. 399 00:25:32,555 --> 00:25:35,115 Speaker 1: Got Great handshakes from Griffin and lack and Zucker and 400 00:25:35,115 --> 00:25:37,675 Speaker 1: a kiss from Griffin's wife, who I knew, and then 401 00:25:37,715 --> 00:25:39,995 Speaker 1: the two ladies excused themselves to go out onto the 402 00:25:40,035 --> 00:25:42,555 Speaker 1: balcony somewhere, and I noticed it was just those three 403 00:25:42,595 --> 00:25:45,915 Speaker 1: guys in me. The seventh person at this dinner, this 404 00:25:46,075 --> 00:25:49,475 Speaker 1: Meryl Brown, who I did not know, was not there, 405 00:25:50,235 --> 00:25:53,715 Speaker 1: and I soon found out why when the women were 406 00:25:53,715 --> 00:25:56,475 Speaker 1: out of the room. News president lack barked first. So 407 00:25:56,515 --> 00:25:58,395 Speaker 1: you're here early so we can talk about this Meryl 408 00:25:58,475 --> 00:26:02,835 Speaker 1: Brown Guy. Zucker looked away from me. He muttered freaking 409 00:26:02,955 --> 00:26:06,395 Speaker 1: Meryl Brown. Griffin said, we need to tell you about 410 00:26:06,435 --> 00:26:10,315 Speaker 1: Meryl Brown. Buddy black began to pace up and down 411 00:26:10,395 --> 00:26:13,875 Speaker 1: Griffin's living room. He had unruly, thinning hair and he 412 00:26:13,955 --> 00:26:15,875 Speaker 1: kept running his hands through it, like he was checking 413 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:17,955 Speaker 1: to see if it was still there. It's God Damn 414 00:26:18,035 --> 00:26:21,835 Speaker 1: Meryl Brown. Lack suddenly stopped and began to look angrily 415 00:26:21,875 --> 00:26:24,395 Speaker 1: at me. Meryl Brown, you're here so we can make 416 00:26:24,435 --> 00:26:29,395 Speaker 1: sure you never listened to Meryl Brown. Three thoughts rocketed 417 00:26:29,435 --> 00:26:31,835 Speaker 1: through my mind. One, this felt like a scene from 418 00:26:31,835 --> 00:26:34,795 Speaker 1: a bad movie, like something they cut out of the 419 00:26:34,875 --> 00:26:42,395 Speaker 1: fugitive or maybe Wall Street. Two these guys in ascending order, Griffin, Zucker, 420 00:26:42,795 --> 00:26:48,235 Speaker 1: lack seemed to be crazy, and three, if only we 421 00:26:48,235 --> 00:26:50,475 Speaker 1: were rolling tape on, this would make a great segment 422 00:26:50,515 --> 00:26:52,795 Speaker 1: for the first show. And then we talked about the 423 00:26:52,795 --> 00:26:57,955 Speaker 1: Mandelbrot set zuker apologized. Look, we already had part of 424 00:26:57,995 --> 00:27:00,115 Speaker 1: this meeting at thirty rocks, so we're pretty worked up 425 00:27:00,115 --> 00:27:02,235 Speaker 1: about this. There's nothing for you to worry about here. 426 00:27:02,075 --> 00:27:04,275 Speaker 1: You didn't do anything wrong and you probably don't have 427 00:27:04,315 --> 00:27:07,635 Speaker 1: any idea who meryl Brown is. I joked to my 428 00:27:07,795 --> 00:27:10,755 Speaker 1: three bosses that I was beginning to think Meryl Brown 429 00:27:10,875 --> 00:27:14,115 Speaker 1: was just a renamed version of Goldstein from George Orwell, 430 00:27:15,955 --> 00:27:21,235 Speaker 1: to my horror, nobody laughed and nobody corrected me. Lack 431 00:27:21,355 --> 00:27:24,515 Speaker 1: resumed a little calmer this time. Meryl Brown used to 432 00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:27,795 Speaker 1: write for the Washington Post and somehow he's he helped 433 00:27:27,835 --> 00:27:31,235 Speaker 1: start court TV and now he's he's the TV guy 434 00:27:31,275 --> 00:27:36,955 Speaker 1: at Microsoft, and Microsoft thinks they own MSNBC and Meryl Brown, 435 00:27:37,195 --> 00:27:40,875 Speaker 1: freaking Meryl Brown, thinks he runs MSNBC. He doesn't run MSNBC, 436 00:27:40,995 --> 00:27:44,595 Speaker 1: God damn it. I RUN MSNBC. It was a brief, 437 00:27:45,035 --> 00:27:49,835 Speaker 1: dangerous silence. Then lack amended his remark. Well, I run 438 00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:53,635 Speaker 1: it with Jeff and Phil. Phil Griffin spoke up now. 439 00:27:53,675 --> 00:27:55,475 Speaker 1: I had known him sixteen years. He had been my 440 00:27:55,515 --> 00:27:58,915 Speaker 1: producer and literally my first day in television, and now, coincidence, 441 00:27:58,915 --> 00:28:01,195 Speaker 1: would make him my producer and literally my first day 442 00:28:01,195 --> 00:28:04,195 Speaker 1: in television news. We're just a little worn out by 443 00:28:04,235 --> 00:28:07,675 Speaker 1: Meryl Buddy. He sends all of US females and messages 444 00:28:07,755 --> 00:28:10,915 Speaker 1: every day. Lack now interrupted Griffin all day. He sends 445 00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:13,475 Speaker 1: them all day like he invented computers. He can't do 446 00:28:13,515 --> 00:28:17,115 Speaker 1: anything out there in Redmond freaking Washington except watch MSNBC 447 00:28:17,275 --> 00:28:19,075 Speaker 1: and tell us how you have to change it, like 448 00:28:19,115 --> 00:28:21,355 Speaker 1: I wasn't the man who saved NBC News and he 449 00:28:21,395 --> 00:28:26,675 Speaker 1: wasn't working in Redmond freaking Washington. This was the first 450 00:28:26,755 --> 00:28:30,875 Speaker 1: I had learned of the contempt in which the NBC 451 00:28:31,075 --> 00:28:34,995 Speaker 1: people held the Microsoft People. I would hear of it 452 00:28:35,035 --> 00:28:39,315 Speaker 1: again every hour or so for the next year. It 453 00:28:39,395 --> 00:28:43,075 Speaker 1: was symbolized by their blind hatred of the otherwise pleasant 454 00:28:43,115 --> 00:28:47,155 Speaker 1: town that was home to the Microsoft operation, Redmond Washington. 455 00:28:48,075 --> 00:28:52,035 Speaker 1: The two companies had quote partnered UNQUOTE TO CREATE MSNBC. 456 00:28:52,355 --> 00:28:56,755 Speaker 1: This first synergy between a major television company and the 457 00:28:56,755 --> 00:28:59,555 Speaker 1: earliest giant of computers and the Internet. That's why it 458 00:28:59,635 --> 00:29:04,635 Speaker 1: was called MS NBC, Ms for Microsoft NBC, for NBC. 459 00:29:04,915 --> 00:29:08,835 Speaker 1: They were a team. No, they weren't. Lack was still 460 00:29:08,955 --> 00:29:11,995 Speaker 1: fared up Christ stone mighty, who only brought these Microsoft 461 00:29:12,075 --> 00:29:14,235 Speaker 1: idiots in on this deal for their money. They don't 462 00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:16,515 Speaker 1: have editorial input. They're here to put in the money 463 00:29:16,515 --> 00:29:21,035 Speaker 1: and they're wiring. That's it. Zucker took over. Here's why 464 00:29:21,075 --> 00:29:22,875 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to in advance of Meryl Brown 465 00:29:22,915 --> 00:29:25,115 Speaker 1: getting here. He's asked to sit next to you during dinner. 466 00:29:25,155 --> 00:29:28,395 Speaker 1: He wants to share his his vision for the big show. 467 00:29:28,995 --> 00:29:34,515 Speaker 1: What we want you to do is listen carefully to him, nod, laugh, agree, 468 00:29:34,715 --> 00:29:38,395 Speaker 1: say that's very interesting, but don't say what you might 469 00:29:38,515 --> 00:29:40,835 Speaker 1: think would be good to say, like Andy. What do 470 00:29:40,915 --> 00:29:44,875 Speaker 1: you think of this? Andy interrupted again, because I'll goddamn 471 00:29:44,915 --> 00:29:46,875 Speaker 1: tell you what I think of it. It's crap, crap 472 00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:49,955 Speaker 1: from Redmond, Washington, crap from guys who are always supposed 473 00:29:49,995 --> 00:29:52,195 Speaker 1: to give us money and computer terminals. That's it. Don't 474 00:29:52,235 --> 00:29:55,155 Speaker 1: tell me what. We have to synergize cable television and 475 00:29:55,195 --> 00:29:57,635 Speaker 1: the Internet with whatever the hell of the Internet is 476 00:29:57,955 --> 00:30:00,635 Speaker 1: this network is so we can train talent and amortise 477 00:30:00,755 --> 00:30:03,715 Speaker 1: expenses and give Brian Williams someplace to anchor until Bro 478 00:30:03,795 --> 00:30:08,635 Speaker 1: call leaves. And another thing. Phil Griffin Central Park West 479 00:30:08,675 --> 00:30:12,915 Speaker 1: apartment building intercom buzzers suddenly went off. His wife raced 480 00:30:12,955 --> 00:30:15,395 Speaker 1: out of wherever she and Mrs Lack had been hiding 481 00:30:15,755 --> 00:30:18,115 Speaker 1: and where, I hope, they were secretly recording all this, 482 00:30:18,675 --> 00:30:21,075 Speaker 1: and she answered the call from the building's lobby desk 483 00:30:21,155 --> 00:30:24,355 Speaker 1: with a series of Huz she looked at her husband 484 00:30:24,355 --> 00:30:27,235 Speaker 1: and said, with some fear, Meryl Brown is on the 485 00:30:27,235 --> 00:30:30,795 Speaker 1: way up. God Damn, it shouted black. He pointed again 486 00:30:30,835 --> 00:30:32,715 Speaker 1: at me. Okay, not a word of what you've been told, 487 00:30:32,755 --> 00:30:35,075 Speaker 1: just humor Um, humor Um, humor Um, humor Um, and 488 00:30:35,155 --> 00:30:37,155 Speaker 1: don't ask me or Zucker or Phil what we think, 489 00:30:37,315 --> 00:30:43,275 Speaker 1: because there could be bloodshed here. Dinner catered was spectacular. 490 00:30:43,915 --> 00:30:48,915 Speaker 1: Meryl Brown was charming well informed. He had ideas about that. 491 00:30:49,035 --> 00:30:52,835 Speaker 1: The word synergy between TV and the Internet, about eventually 492 00:30:52,835 --> 00:30:57,555 Speaker 1: getting viewers to watch TV via their computers, especially when 493 00:30:57,555 --> 00:31:03,155 Speaker 1: the computers would one day be handheld seriously and maybe 494 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:06,355 Speaker 1: even interacting with the show as they were being televised 495 00:31:06,835 --> 00:31:10,355 Speaker 1: or watching them whenever the viewer wanted some sort of 496 00:31:10,435 --> 00:31:15,195 Speaker 1: delay system. It was interesting and forward looking. And to 497 00:31:15,235 --> 00:31:17,675 Speaker 1: make sure I could not see the anger barely being 498 00:31:17,715 --> 00:31:20,635 Speaker 1: suppressed by lack until lesser degrees by Griffin and Zooker, 499 00:31:20,795 --> 00:31:24,555 Speaker 1: I took my glasses off mid meal. Finally, Meryl Brown 500 00:31:24,595 --> 00:31:26,075 Speaker 1: said he had to go. He knew the rest of 501 00:31:26,155 --> 00:31:28,355 Speaker 1: US needed to talk over some details about the launch 502 00:31:28,395 --> 00:31:32,235 Speaker 1: of my show. He wished me luck. Silently, I wished 503 00:31:32,315 --> 00:31:36,195 Speaker 1: him luck. Lack and griffin showed him to the door 504 00:31:36,275 --> 00:31:38,955 Speaker 1: and actually waited there until Meryl Brown made it down 505 00:31:39,035 --> 00:31:42,635 Speaker 1: the hallway and into the elevator. Before he even closed 506 00:31:42,635 --> 00:31:45,275 Speaker 1: the apartment door, lack shouted, and that's another thing. We 507 00:31:45,355 --> 00:31:48,515 Speaker 1: have all but Goddamn synergy between TV and the Internet already. 508 00:31:48,675 --> 00:31:52,915 Speaker 1: Tell Him Phil, Tell Him Phil. Griffin looked at me sheepishly. 509 00:31:53,675 --> 00:31:56,555 Speaker 1: Zooker took over for him. We figured out how to 510 00:31:56,595 --> 00:31:59,275 Speaker 1: Mesh between cable TV and the Internet. Phil figured it out. 511 00:31:59,275 --> 00:32:00,715 Speaker 1: That the name of the show that will be your 512 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:03,195 Speaker 1: lead in. This is the kind of synergy we want. 513 00:32:03,795 --> 00:32:05,915 Speaker 1: Tell Him Phil, tell him the name of the show 514 00:32:05,955 --> 00:32:09,755 Speaker 1: and how it combines the Internet and nighttime TV. Phil 515 00:32:09,795 --> 00:32:15,235 Speaker 1: looks slightly past me. It's, it's it's called. It's called internight. 516 00:32:16,155 --> 00:32:21,515 Speaker 1: He paused. It's. It's called internight. See, it's it's it's 517 00:32:21,595 --> 00:32:30,395 Speaker 1: Internet plus. You know, night internight. Got It, buddy. At 518 00:32:30,475 --> 00:32:35,915 Speaker 1: that exact moment I knew that on Msnbc we would never, 519 00:32:36,395 --> 00:32:40,715 Speaker 1: not once, not even in passing, make the slightest reference 520 00:32:41,275 --> 00:32:54,795 Speaker 1: to the Mandel brought set. I've done all the damage 521 00:32:54,835 --> 00:32:57,195 Speaker 1: I can do here. Help me out. Give this thing 522 00:32:57,235 --> 00:32:59,475 Speaker 1: a good review or rating, or compare it to the 523 00:32:59,475 --> 00:33:03,955 Speaker 1: Mandel brought set or something. The countdown theme from Beethoven's 524 00:33:04,035 --> 00:33:06,875 Speaker 1: ninth was a changed produced and performed by countdown musical 525 00:33:06,875 --> 00:33:10,155 Speaker 1: directors Brian Ray and John Philip Chanelle. 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