1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: My parents are trying to force me into an arranged marriage, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: but they just caught me with another man. I refuse 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: to follow their traditions. Am I the a hole? 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Can we arrange some polyamory over here? 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: You know, in some religions you can't arrange that, and 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: some it's even even lauded. I'm looking at you, old 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: school Mormons. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: Uh oh, I think we need some new arrangements. 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: That we do all right. 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Also, I realized it's not all new Mormons, it's like 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the old like polygamis Mormons. 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: That's the specific ones, the old ones, the old school, 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: so I said, old squad. 14 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Anyway, I twenty two female, moved out of my parents' 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: house last year to a condo that is thirty minutes away. 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: I did this because I height living with them as 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: they're very controlling and like to force my siblings and 18 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: me to follow their beliefs. 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not fun, not fun. 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Stop trying to control me, Mom, yeah, stop trying to 21 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: control me, Dad, yeah, And stop trying to control me father, 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the big guy, the big Dad. My oldest sister for 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: female is like my parents, very traditional and controlling. My 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: parents never approved of us getting a boyfriend. They believed 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: in an arranged marriage and prohibit us from engaging in 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: pre marital sex. 27 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: I mean, how you really get to stop me though? 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 29 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean my parents never said like, don't engage in 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: premarital sex. But they're like they weren't like, you know, 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: have monkey sex. 32 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: In the house mine? 33 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: Did? 34 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: They let it be known. 35 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: A monkey sex noise? But I don't care about this bullshit. 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm heartiest. Yeah, that's what I'm assuming OP is saying 37 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: is not what they actually said. I've had boyfriends behind 38 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: their backs, and only my youngest sister, sixteen female, knows 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: about it as we are very close. I have a 40 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: boyfriend twenty three male whom I have been going out 41 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: for eight months. Now, okay are you boykn though? 42 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: Are you boinking? Are you boinkn? And is it good? 43 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Yesterday I invited him over to hang out at my 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: home and guess what they did? 45 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: John? 46 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: What what you were the man in that scenario? I 47 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: could tell? 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's his meme where it's like there's three 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: types of dudes and it goes. 50 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: And it's like. 51 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: And then it's the comments is like there's all these 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: girls commenting like, get you a man that can do all. 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I see that means. 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: I have it. 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: I have it podcast exclusive. 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 5: Yeah that is so from Bunny from Donkey Knight right, 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 5: which is perfo anyway, all right, so shout out to me, 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: shout out to the shout out of the podcast. 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, my oldest sister decided to visit me out of 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: nowhere and caught us in the act. Oh god, it 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: pissed me off so much that she visited without notifying me. 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: She then started screaming at me and called me aha 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: for sleeping around. I try to make her understand that 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: it was my boyfriend and even if I was sleeping around, 65 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: it was. 66 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: None of her freaking business. Oh. 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: She didn't like my answer and proceeded to call my 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: parents to snitch on me. 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: Wow, what happened to you know? 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: She just get stitches? 71 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: Then she just get stitches, gets stitches. 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: I think I think it's still a pause. 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: I think the sixteen female is about to get a 74 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: whole lot of. 75 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Hurt walloped walloped. 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Well, they were pissed, and my mom started going on 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: about how I committed a sin. I'm an atheist, but 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: she hasn't respected and forced me to break up with 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: You're not going to respect their religion. Keep the boyfriend? 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: You know? How are they forcing you to break up 82 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: to their boyfriend? I know? 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess parents can have their ways. How 84 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: old's ope again? 85 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Twenty three or twenty two? Twenty two? 86 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't let it. 87 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: It's not me, but you know, yeah, man, it's a 88 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: horn dog over here. Wouldn't stop me? I mean having 89 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: this crazy monkey said, oh god, nohing can stop this 90 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: testosterone filled ape from getting his nut. 91 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: I guess not. 92 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, all right, no one get turned out by that. 93 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: My dad started saying how it was time they find 94 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: a groom for me and that I would behave. I 95 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: kicked him out of my house and told them to 96 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: only talk to me if they're willing to apologize to 97 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: my boyfriend and me for disrespecting us. Wouldn't it be 98 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend they forced her a break up? 99 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, maybe maybe it's like they're forcing, 100 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: but like, but she's not. 101 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: Gonna take it. I gotta take it. It makes sense, 102 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: makes sense. 103 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: My mom is now trying to guilt trip me by 104 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: stating that she's my mom and has sacrificed a lot 105 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: to raise me. I know that she sacrificed a lot, 106 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: but I'm not too fond of the way she's treating me. 107 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm twenty two, not to well drop. Oh pe you 108 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: get them, You get them? Yeah you old, you, oldest 109 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: freak you grandpa, Yeah you got you. 110 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: You only got a few gears good years left. 111 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Pop them dentures in and tell mommy what's up. Pop 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: those dentures in and pop those babies out. Oh God, 113 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: make your parents proud. God give them a first born 114 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: and the sacrifice it verse. 115 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: Who know. 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how we got the heart out of 117 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: the thirst born, drink from its blood and say, mom, 118 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: is this what you want? 119 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how we got here, but we're here. 120 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: We're here, and we're eating newborns. 121 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: Oh God. 122 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: They're still pissed and have spam my phone. My cousin's 123 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: heard about it and forced me to apologize my parents 124 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: and sisters for kicking them out and yelling at them. 125 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I refuse to do so and block them. My youngest 126 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: sister and boyfriend are on my side. She even called 127 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: my oldest sister for being a nosy bitch, but nobody 128 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: is listening to her, and she's not an adult. She's 129 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: just sixteen after all. Loser and nosy. Oh my god, 130 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: so am I the axehole for standing up for myself 131 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: and my boyfriend? 132 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 4: Give it up for Sam's performance comedy and gentleman, my goodness, Jim. 133 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: Carrey over here, thank you. 134 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: I couldn't keep up with half of it. 135 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: Also, there is a little there's a little edit. But 136 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: what do you think off rip? Absolutely not. I applaud 137 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: op for standing up for what she wants. Look, at 138 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you just can't laying down 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: for what. 140 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: She wants off my phone. 141 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: That's oh my god. Well you know something else is 142 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: standing up both of our wieners. Oh yeah, we're rock hard. 143 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: That's while recording these yep, this is why we You 144 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: know you can't see below the waist. 145 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: What do you think is holding up this microphone right here? No, man, 146 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: it's not a stand. It's not a stand. Nothing is 147 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: standing up. 148 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: That's right. It's a lot of weight. But no, OPI 149 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: is not the wrong. 150 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: And you just can't control people, especially your kids. 151 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: At the end of the Yeah, I think it's hard 152 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: with the religious parents because it's hard no usually with 153 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: religious with some sects of religious people and some kinds 154 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: of religious people. It's like either you're with us or 155 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: you are against us. You're like you are the embodiment 156 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: of evil. 157 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: And I understand if you've if that was basically your 158 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: whole existence and every that's all you've been shown. I 159 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: understand why they're coming to that conclusion and like like 160 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: trying to push that agenda. But at the same time, 161 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: you just can't control someone. Yeah, it just doesn't. You 162 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: gotta let your your birds fly. So right, here's a 163 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: little edit for some clarity. Everyone asks if I was Indian, 164 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: and the answer is yes, I'm Indian, but not from India. 165 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: My sister got into my house with a spare key 166 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: I gave her and I trusted her to use it 167 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: with my knowledge. But since she breached my trust, I 168 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: have taken it away from her and my parents. I 169 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: don't think I can go no contact with my parents, 170 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: but thank you everyone for your opinion and on this issue. 171 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: I definitely will get some distance between us and try 172 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: to make them understand. But if they still try to 173 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: be difficult, I'll have to go no contact for a 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: few weeks at least to make them realize I'm legit 175 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: about this. 176 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: Thank you again. As for my youngest sister, she can't 177 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: live with me now, even though I would love to 178 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: take her in, but she's also planning to move in 179 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: with me once she turns eighteen. 180 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: My parents are unaware with this. 181 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for the context, op, but yeah, I'm curious, like, 182 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: for anyone in the comments that has a religious upbringing, 183 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: religious family, how did you either stick with it or 184 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: exit it? Because I mean there's also this whole community 185 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: of like ex Mormons, even on there's a subd ex Mormons, 186 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,119 Speaker 1: and they talk about like how they leave the community 187 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: gracefully or not so gracefully so they can just live 188 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: their own lives as they see fit because not all 189 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: of them have the same ideals and morals and as 190 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: their family did. 191 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Yeah, I mean again, I think it's 192 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: I do want to. I think there are some parents 193 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: in these situations who have these beliefs because of their 194 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: religion where they want to you know, kind of control 195 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 4: orchestra arrange the marriage and things of that nature. And again, 196 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: like I said before, I understand if that's what they've 197 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: been kind of essentially indoctrinated to believe like their whole life, 198 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: I understand how they get there, but ultimately. 199 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: It's your kid's choice once once your kid has flown 200 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: the coop. I mean, you can only suggest things you 201 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: can't control exactly. But what we'd love to hear two 202 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: sides of the coin, either your religious exit stories or 203 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, your parents being controlling stories or your best 204 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: someone walked in while you were doing it stories. Oh dude, 205 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: those ones got to be good things. Juicy, slimy, drenched 206 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: in sweat. Oh God, I want to hear those. Put 207 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: them in the comments. We love you and we'll see 208 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: you soon. 209 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: So my dad stole my mom's most prized possession during 210 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: the divorce, but I'm going to steal it back, am 211 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: I the ale It. 212 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: Was the pegging paraphernalia prize possession. 213 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: Super So my dad and I twenty five mail, aren't 214 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: close and I was never interested in having a relationship 215 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: with him. He was a type of guy that was 216 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: out all the time with his friends and never home. 217 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: My mom divorced him when I was twelve and it 218 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: got ugly. Sometime during the divorce we came home and 219 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: stuff was missing. Not his stuff, by the way, because 220 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: that was cleaned out when he left. 221 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's taking from the family geez. 222 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: One of the things missing was my mom's bracelet that 223 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: she kept in a small box under some stuff in 224 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: the closet. This bracelet was super special to her. Her 225 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: parents were toxic af but my mom was really close 226 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: to her English teacher slash mentor in high school who 227 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: was like a mom to her. Her teacher gave her 228 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: that bracelet and her high school graduation, and my mom 229 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: kept it all these years. 230 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 231 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: My dad knew she treasured it, and who else would 232 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: look in that specific place and take only a bracelet 233 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: when there was other stuff in the house. She knew 234 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: it was him too, but he always played dumb. The 235 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 4: divorce was finalized and we didn't see my dad after that. 236 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: My mom never got it back. Last June she got 237 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: the VID and unfortunately didn't make it. 238 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: Oh No, I was broken over that. 239 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: Still am I guess glad at least me, my sister 240 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: and my stepdad have each other for support. Around October, 241 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 4: my sister told me that my dad wants to talk 242 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 4: to me, so she gave him my number. He apologized 243 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: for being a piece of shit Dad and asked if 244 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: we could meet to talk at his place. I was 245 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 4: ready to straight up say no, but then I remembered 246 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 4: he stole her bracelet and maybe there was a chance 247 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: to get it back. I've asked my sister before to 248 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: push him about it, since they talk, but she only 249 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: asked him once and left it at that. I decided 250 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: I could handle one visit just to see if he 251 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: has it, so I told him i'd hear him out. 252 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, I met at his place. We caught up 253 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: on stuff. He told me his sorry story about being 254 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: immature and too focused on stuff that wasn't more important than. 255 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: Being a dad or whatever. 256 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: I ended up bringing the bracelet up and how important 257 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: that was to me since my mom's not here anymore. 258 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: He kept trying to act like it wasn't him, until 259 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: I said, the only way I'd consider having a father 260 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: son relationship is if he just stopped with that and 261 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: gave me my mom's bracelet, which also like, if you're 262 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: trying to like reconnect, why would you lie about that. 263 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like he's so embarrassed about it that he's 264 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: like possible, he doesn't even want to admit it to himself. 265 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was valuable or if he 266 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: sold it and he was like, oh, I like it 267 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: I sold it a long time ago. Yikes, but he 268 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: finally gave in, and thank god he actually kept it 269 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: instead of throwing it out. 270 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if it was maybe more of a spikee thing. 271 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh, it was one hundred percent of spite thing. Yeah, 272 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: he was stealing it just to make his ex wife 273 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: feel terrible. He apologized for taking it and knew that 274 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: it was super childish. I was just happy to have 275 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: it back, but mad my mom didn't get it before 276 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: she passed away. 277 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 4: I never guaranteed my dad a relationship. I just said 278 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 4: i'd consider it, but I already made up my mind 279 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: that I don't want anything to do with him. It's 280 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: been months since our meeting, and my sister is pissed 281 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: because my dad is disappointed I talked to him. She 282 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: says I was a huge piece of crap for making 283 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: him think we'd reconcile. My only goal was getting the 284 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 4: bracelet back, and I wouldn't have talked to him in 285 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: the first place if it wasn't for that. So that's 286 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: why I wonder if I'm the a hole. My sister 287 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: is biased here since she was little when they split 288 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: up and has a different version of him, so I mean, 289 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: I think the big question for everyone watching is is 290 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: Op the a hole for you know, basically just getting 291 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 4: the bracelet back and not building the relationship. 292 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the dad's definitely the a hole, 293 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: but it seems like he's trying to change. 294 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: It. 295 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: Does seems like he's trying to change, although he did 296 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: continue lying about it when he eventually asked, that's a 297 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: red flag for me. Maybe not maybe a red flag. 298 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty red flag. So if he lied 299 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: about it a bunch of times before, I'm a look 300 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: conflicted because he did eventually give it. But you know, 301 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: it seems like he did so much terrible stuff in 302 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: the past that I don't think OP needs to have 303 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: a relationship with him. 304 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she didn't necessarily lie. 305 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: She said she'd consider it, and she's done her consideration, 306 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: decided not. 307 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: And I think too that like we don't know the 308 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 4: exact timeframe that this all happened in. I think I 309 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: think I said a couple of weeks, so like this 310 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 4: is a very fresh thing. 311 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: Like Opa mentioned when he was. 312 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: Twelve that he basically accepted that his dad was not 313 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 4: going to be engaged with him anymore. 314 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: So like that's a lot many years in a few weeks. 315 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: So I don't think he's a whole just because of 316 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: the time it'll take. 317 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: And like the dad, it's like, hey, you did years 318 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: of damage. 319 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: You have to put in a lot of time and 320 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: effort to building that trust back if you want to truly. 321 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: And it's going to take time. I don't think Opca whole. 322 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah I don't either, But you know who's never the 323 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: a whole are beautiful commenters. 324 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: Oh, comment your stories and tell us the freakship things 325 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: your parents did. 326 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: Do so