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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe.

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Speaker 2: Katty Armstrong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for a job and I've always wanted to

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Speaker 3: work at McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: I never did. I'm running against somebody that said she did.

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Speaker 4: But it turned out to be a totally phony story.

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Speaker 2: So that's a good looking group. Hello, everybody. I'm having

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun here, everybody.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Javin. That's from their actual campaign ad that

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Speaker 4: they put together out of his McDonald's. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: called a stunt, called a campaign whatever, I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: no different than some are calling it a staged event. Jack,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to what b me these I mean, give

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Speaker 1: Got the mainstream media's truck so hard. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: a staged event. They all are right, exactly. Think he

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Speaker 1: wandered in the McDonald's spontaneously and told the fry guy

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Speaker 4: And as someone who's almost been assassinated and Iran currently

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Speaker 4: has a bounty on his head, he just hangs out

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Speaker 4: at McDonald's for hours at a time with the general

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Speaker 4: public everywhere Yeah. Any who, Uh, he is good at that,

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Speaker 4: shockingly good at hanging out with regular people. How he

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Speaker 4: has that talent as a guy who's been wealthy his

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Speaker 4: whole life, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Some people just think it's that he famously loved being

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Speaker 1: on construction sites for all of his projects. He loved

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Speaker 1: talking to the foreman about how it was going and

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Speaker 1: getting into the nitty gritty and the details. And he

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Speaker 1: used to bring his kids there too. I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 4: So it was to relate to well one, it was

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Speaker 4: to drive home the point that Kamala Harris says she

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Speaker 4: worked at McDonald's, and nobody can find any actual record

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Speaker 4: of that occurring.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if she did or not.

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Speaker 4: I assume she did, and they just I mean, I

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Speaker 4: worked a bunch of places when I was that age,

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Speaker 4: same year as her, because we're the same age, and

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any documentation you could find that

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, I have no doubt she worked at McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care well to.

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Speaker 4: Think about your job you had when you were I

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Speaker 4: think she says she was seventeen or something like that.

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Speaker 4: How would you even possibly come up with documentation that

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Speaker 4: I did that there isn't any so anyway that aside,

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Speaker 4: The topic of minimum wage was the lead story on

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Speaker 4: ABC News last night, and it came up on I

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Speaker 4: saw it on Morning Joe on MSNBC today.

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Speaker 2: So Trump was asked at the.

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Speaker 4: McDonald's after running the friar in which he says fry

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Speaker 4: is never touched by human hands. I asked, Trump, says

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Speaker 4: this CBS News reporter, if he thinks the minimum wage

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Speaker 4: should be raised, Well, I think this. Trump said, these

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Speaker 4: people work hard, they're great, and I just saw something

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Speaker 4: a process that's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: That was his answer. Wow.

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Speaker 4: So when I first heard that, I thought, why didn't

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Speaker 4: he just pander? And then I thought, you know why?

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Speaker 4: Because there are so many conservatives slash Republicans different things,

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Speaker 4: often who hate the idea of raising the minimum wage

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Speaker 4: and understand the economics behind it. So if he pandered,

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Speaker 4: you do more harm than good, possibly among people on

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Speaker 4: the right. Kamala Harris, on the other hand, took his

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Speaker 4: answer and tried to show that that's how you can

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Speaker 4: tell he doesn't care about the little man, and said

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Speaker 4: this about minimum.

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Speaker 5: Wage, I think everyone knows that the current federal minimum

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Speaker 5: wage is seven dollars and twenty five cents an hour,

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Speaker 5: which means that the person who's working a full day

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Speaker 5: which is essentially poverty wages. So there is a big

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Speaker 5: difference between Donald Trump and me on a numbers.

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Speaker 1: There is not a single person in America working for

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Speaker 1: the federal minimum wage. It is a meaningless statistic. How

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Speaker 4: On the right and correct side of this issue, right politically,

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Speaker 4: correct and logically, how do we convince people that you

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Speaker 4: gotta be able to have jobs that pay very little.

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Speaker 2: They have to be able to exist.

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Speaker 4: And if you raise the wage enough, you've outlawed any

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Speaker 4: bit for the for a high school get to do

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Speaker 1: Get diapers on the monkeys so they don't throw their

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Speaker 1: feces at the customers. I mean, you've got to find

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Speaker 1: a solution. As a business person, I think you know,

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Speaker 1: language is powerful. I think continually using terms like starter

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Speaker 1: jobs would help because that has a paragraph worth of

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Speaker 1: information in a single word or two words, if you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Well, one of the great language tricks in the left

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Speaker 4: has always been better at language than the right, with

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Speaker 4: a compliant.

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Speaker 2: Media to help.

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Speaker 4: They regularly use the term living wage in place of

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Speaker 4: minimum wage, and the minimum wage wasn't designed to be

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Speaker 4: a living wage, particularly, and then when they start to

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Speaker 4: extrapolate it into a family not only getting by and

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Speaker 4: living on your own a minimum wage, but supporting a family.

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Speaker 1: You are not right, or it's never existed, it's not

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Speaker 1: intended to exist.

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Speaker 4: How would a restaurant stay open where the fry flipper

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Speaker 4: can support their family on that wage.

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Speaker 2: There's no way the restaurant could stay open.

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Speaker 1: Right in the fact that so few people understand or

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Speaker 1: so many people misunderstand that principle is is a little

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Speaker 1: frightening and overwhelming to those of us who would have

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Speaker 1: more sane politics. You hate that you have to explain

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Speaker 1: that that if you can barely do anything, but you

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Speaker 1: can do this, and somebody's willing to pay you to

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Speaker 1: do that, and you're willing to take that amount of

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Speaker 2: The idea that that.

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Speaker 1: Is wrong because you're not making enough to raise a

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Speaker 1: family of four is just it's it's counterintuitive. It's like

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Speaker 1: saying that every I don't know, every item I sell

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Speaker 1: at a garage sale should be equal to when I

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Speaker 2: There are different values attached.

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Speaker 1: People need to learn to recognize labor as a product

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Speaker 1: that they are selling, and there are different levels of labor.

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Speaker 1: You know, a gifted, truly gifted CEO is a different

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Speaker 1: product than a sixteen year old who's never had a

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Speaker 1: job before. And again, it's a it's a little discouraging

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Speaker 1: that that has to be explained to people, but apparently

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Speaker 4: Combined with the fact that businesses can't just absorb those

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Speaker 4: higher wages. Even though it might be nice if all

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Speaker 4: sixteen year olds or people with no skills or whatever

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Speaker 4: made more money, businesses can't just absorb those higher wages

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Speaker 4: and continue on. It doesn't make any sense, as we've

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Speaker 4: seen in California with the twenty dollars minimum wage for

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Speaker 1: Right well, and that goes to the again, the widespread

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Speaker 1: perception that every business owner is rich and chooses the

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Speaker 1: wage based on their own greed.

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Speaker 4: God, were you here when we did the thing? I

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Speaker 4: can't remember if you were here or not. It was

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Speaker 4: a great Twitter feed by a guy who owned the

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Speaker 4: owner operator of a subway sandwich shop, because that's the

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Speaker 4: way subways work.

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Speaker 2: You are the you know, you buy the franchise and

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Speaker 2: you run it yourself. Oh yeah, yeah, I was part

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Speaker 4: It was fantastic him explaining how many hours he works,

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Speaker 4: what it costs to have all the ingredients, what the

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Speaker 4: himself to death to barely make anything as the owner

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Speaker 2: I think he had one employee.

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Speaker 1: And the number of businesses that make x amount of

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Speaker 1: and they just make enough to live on barely hoping

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Speaker 1: it gets big enough then they'll start to draw profit

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Speaker 1: from it. But yeah, the anti business, anti success, anti

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Speaker 1: it's cool to start at the bottom and work your

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Speaker 1: way up mentality. That's changed so much over last I

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Speaker 1: a very collectivist French view of life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean so I hate it from that standpoint

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Speaker 4: you were just describing also kind of culturally and everything

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Speaker 2: But just from a.

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Speaker 4: Math standpoint, it doesn't work. That's what bothers me so much.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. You can't somebody has to make fries.

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Speaker 4: You can't pay somebody twenty dollars an hour to flip fries,

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Speaker 4: and and then and to charge what you'd like to charge.

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Speaker 2: For your burgers to have customers show up. It just

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Speaker 1: As Tim Sanderfer has made clear through the years, and

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Speaker 1: a couple of his books are apropos to this discussion,

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Speaker 1: including the right to earn a living, which is just terrific.

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Speaker 2: But and again.

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Speaker 1: We need to use more words than the demagogues on

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Speaker 2: That's just what we're up against.

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Speaker 1: But if someone can only bring twelve dollars of value

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Speaker 1: You've made them in eligible to work because you've made

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Speaker 2: But it's too easy to demogogue the issue.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm looking at this chart from ballot Pedia,

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Speaker 1: which shows election outcomes from minimum wage increase ballot measures

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Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety six to twenty twenty two, and there

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Speaker 1: are they're not numbered. It appears to be about thirty

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Speaker 2: They're all on the state level.

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Speaker 1: And every single one but two got approved by voters.

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Speaker 4: And not to bring up polls, but so as looking

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Speaker 4: at this from one of your top pollsters, state poles

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Speaker 4: currently show a closer electoral college finish than final polls

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Speaker 4: in any campaign in over fifty years, which is how

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Speaker 4: long polling has been around. So in the history of

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Speaker 4: presidential polling, we've never had a race in the only

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Speaker 4: states that could swing this thing be this close. And

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Speaker 4: when you're in that situation, demogobbing, demogogging a you know,

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Speaker 4: a populism issue like this could be the whole difference.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and this is fishing and barrel because

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Speaker 1: I remember the stats and I was so annoyed by this,

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Speaker 1: But among Republicans, minimum wage laws poll very well.

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Speaker 4: That's why I was kind of surprised that Trump just didn't,

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Speaker 4: you know, go with the easy answer.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, but he must know that turns off an

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Speaker 2: awful lot of people too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, plus in you know, in his heart,

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Speaker 1: he understands, and I think it'd be very difficult for

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Speaker 4: But yeah, if she, if she wins on minimum wage,

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Speaker 4: and Trump's trying to take away your social security, which

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Speaker 4: I hate the fact that he doesn't want to do

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Speaker 4: something about social security, but he doesn't. Uh, then that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you haven't heard that social Security ad, the

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Speaker 7: As the Israeli military ready's a retaliatory attack for Iran's

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Speaker 4: I remember Dick Morris, if you remember that political guy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that last one I think is kind of an outlier.

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Speaker 4: I saw on CBS News this morning. I didn't listen

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, and run by the crowd you're just talking about,

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Speaker 1: In some of the promos we call them in the

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Speaker 1: business that run on perhaps your local radio station, talking

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Speaker 1: about what we're going to be talking about tomorrow, I

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Speaker 1: characterized in clever, clever fashion. Everybody agrees it was very clever,

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Speaker 1: the cleverest promo that the election's all about man.

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Speaker 2: One man, and one woman.

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Speaker 1: That would be Elon Musk and Taylor Swift Ah. And

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Speaker 1: I thought of that just because Elon Musk is he's

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Speaker 1: bidding to become the Secretary of Cost Cutting. Also he

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Speaker 1: wants to run the Department of Government Efficiency, which of

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Speaker 1: course spells out doge, which is a silly online term

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Speaker 1: for dog and is evocative of doze coin et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Everything with Elon, it's got to be a joke anyway,

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Speaker 1: Elon v. Taylor Swift coming up a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting and they can wear it fast like that.

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Speaker 4: I did just come across this some publication how Trump

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Speaker 4: mocking Harris's laugh tells a story of America's racism.

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You're either the sort of person that can't wait to

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Speaker 2: click on that story or there's.

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Speaker 1: Every everybody mocks her laugh because it's stupid and ill

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Speaker 1: placed and has nothing to do with race, and you're

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Speaker 1: a race baiting liar.

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Speaker 4: Another headline I just came across. Target is lowering prices

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Speaker 4: on more than two thousand items across an array of categories.

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Speaker 4: I hope it in includes all the sexual toys they

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Speaker 4: have right over there by the vitamins, but in a

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Speaker 4: bid to offer more discounts to cash strapped customers as

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Speaker 4: the holiday season approaches. I think that is a nod

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Speaker 4: frump strang if Target feels they got to lower the

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Speaker 4: price in two thousand things because people are suffering so much,

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Speaker 4: because it's difficult to figure out where people are on

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Speaker 4: the whole economy thing based on polling, and you know

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Speaker 4: the stock market has been set in a record all

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Speaker 4: the time, but most people don't feel that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definite signs of consumer spending softening, without question.

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Speaker 2: I had one more thing I wanted to mention that

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Speaker 2: I thought was really good. Do I have time for it?

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Speaker 2: I think I do, yes, I say yes. Oh.

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Speaker 4: So this is from Mark Alprin's newsletter today. He was

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Speaker 4: kind of trying to stay away from the polls and

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Speaker 4: take in more of just information from strategists and pundits

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Speaker 4: that he trusts.

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Speaker 2: And he said this.

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Speaker 4: If Trump wins, and that's where he says, it's currently

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Speaker 4: leaning either a little or a lot if Trump wins.

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Speaker 4: The data suggests that the election was indeed a multi

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Speaker 4: racial working class revolt against inflation, and that's what caused it.

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Speaker 4: I think that's that's caused Number one, he said, for

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Speaker 4: all the talk about everything in all caps, these analysts

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Speaker 4: see the election in simple terms. All the people he

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Speaker 4: talks to, Republicans and Democrats, a multiracial working class revolt

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Speaker 4: against inflation, which would get to the whole target having

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Speaker 4: the low prices. It's just everybody is still shocked regularly

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Speaker 4: when they buy stuff. I know I am, or as

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Speaker 4: I've been putting it. When inflation is high, nothing else matters.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: I did a little avocado toast thing the other day

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Speaker 4: with bacon. Okay, you know, it's kind of a stop

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Speaker 4: in a little bagel Scott promant on.

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Speaker 2: There and I spent like thirty bucks. It was like, what,

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Speaker 2: how abut? I? How'd you? But I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even get up.

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Speaker 4: You know, crazy, And everybody reacts that way all the time.

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Speaker 2: And so there you go.

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Speaker 4: A multi racial revolt against inflation will be the one

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Speaker 4: sentence description of why Trump got elected if he wins,

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Speaker 4: If only it were known that pouring trillions of dollars

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Speaker 4: of borrowed government money into an already hot economy, would

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Speaker 4: he's inflation if only we knew that going in. Oh well,

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Speaker 4: the Inflation Reduction Act, yeah, which which absolutely exacerbated inflation. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So Taylor Swift versus Elon among other things on the way.

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Speaker 6: Meanwhile, here's Harris leading a rally that apparently came with

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Speaker 6: free vodka.

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Speaker 4: Just your name for a minute.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, because it's about you, it's

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Speaker 1: about your family, It's about you.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Tell me that's not a

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Speaker 2: woman loaded with alcohol.

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Speaker 4: Some might say she's more combustible than a hes bulla pager.

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Speaker 2: Like jokes.

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Speaker 4: But I don't like the anytime Trump gets wound up,

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Speaker 4: its dementia, or she gets wound up, she's drunk.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't like that. Oh that was.

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Speaker 1: Just a step shy of the Dean scream, infamous Howard

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Speaker 1: Dean's scream.

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Speaker 2: I find her personality off putting.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think she's got a drinking problem.

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Speaker 2: Vice President.

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Speaker 4: There you go, Oh harsh criticism. Lolgar language, that's a

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Speaker 4: sign of dementia, right, SHERYLO.

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Speaker 2: Sure it is okay.

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Speaker 1: So Elon Musk versus Taylor Swift, it's not as stupid

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Speaker 1: as it sounds. I find it very interesting Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: is criss crossing the battleground states to tout Trump's candidacy and.

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Speaker 2: Also his.

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Speaker 1: Potential role in a department of government efficiency or whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just nailed it down.

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Speaker 4: So Taylor Swift has ninety five million Twitter followers, Elon

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Speaker 4: has two hundred million.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've nailed down nothing, old man. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: that in a moment or two. Was that overly harsh.

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Speaker 1: I've had a bit of vodka myself anyway. So Elon

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Speaker 1: is criss crossing the battleground states talking about this government

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Speaker 1: efficiency thing, how to make your tax dollars much more effective,

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Speaker 1: get rid of government bloat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish just got more attention because it's a

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Speaker 4: great idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: He's also a forceful advocate for the first Amendment, which

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Speaker 1: I appreciate more than I can say in this second Amendment.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, and you've probably heard the story, he's trying

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Speaker 1: to get to millions of people to sign this petition

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Speaker 1: in favor of the first two amendments and their support

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Speaker 1: of it, and as a publicity stunt, because he said,

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Speaker 1: we can't get any regular news coverage on this. As

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Speaker 1: a publicity stunt, he's given out a million dollars a

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Speaker 1: day to a randomly seglected person who who signs the petition.

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Speaker 1: And the Left is pretending that this is troublesome and

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Speaker 1: is it buying votes or something like that. No, it's

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Speaker 1: just a publicity stunt, and this story will go away

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Speaker 1: in a big hurry. Trust me, or call me at

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Speaker 1: home and gloat if I'm wrong. I'm not wrong, and

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Speaker 1: the final aspect of the Elon thing I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about before I get to trust me. An interesting

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Speaker 1: aspect of the Taylor Swift deal is that one of

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Speaker 1: the Elon's primary messages and the speeches I've heard and

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Speaker 1: I've seen written about, is about achieving and getting ahead

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Speaker 1: and an opportunity a country that's all about opportunity, which

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Speaker 1: is a very traditional American message. Elon, of course an

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Speaker 1: African American, an immigrant to our land who has found

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Speaker 1: great success here, obviously, but it's a very very positive,

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Speaker 1: empowering message that young men in particular seem to be

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Speaker 1: really interested in. So I thought that was an interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 1: There is more to be said about Elon and his

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Speaker 1: role in the government and campaign, but let's move along

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Speaker 1: for now. I thought the Wall Street Journal had a

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Speaker 1: really interesting, even hand look at swifties, Taylor Swift endorsement

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Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris and what it actually means. And it's

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Speaker 1: very easy to be knee jerk cynical and say, who

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Speaker 1: cares what a pop star thinks? But I don't think

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Speaker 1: you understand swifties, which is a word that pains me

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Speaker 1: every time it passes my lips.

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Speaker 2: I don't like hearing you say it. It makes me

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Speaker 2: think less of you.

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Speaker 1: It makes me think of less of meate. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: the journal talks about how Swift last month endorsed Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris in a post featuring her with one of her

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Speaker 1: cats trollings, obviously, which was pretty good trolling as trolling

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Speaker 1: goes Swift September post to her, Now, I ask you

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Speaker 1: to remember when I mocked Jack as it all man

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Speaker 1: a moment ago.

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Speaker 2: This is what I was driving.

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Speaker 1: At Swift September tenth, post to her two hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty three million Instagram fos. Instagram's all about the gram Baby,

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Speaker 1: all about the Graham.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: It sent four hundred and six thousand people to a

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Speaker 1: government website with information on how to register to vote. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's impossible to argue that's not a big deal, right,

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Speaker 1: four hundred and six thousand people. If a quarter of

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Speaker 1: those were in swing states, lookout. Sociologically speaking, this is

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Speaker 1: where it got really interesting to me. It also energized

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Speaker 1: swifties to use her music, cover art, and folklore to

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Speaker 1: get out the vote in battleground states and beyond. They

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Speaker 1: are phone banking, canvassing, crafting, sending postcards, wearing their gear

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Speaker 1: as a sign of support, and finding each other through

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Speaker 1: online groups like Swifties for Kamala and Swifties for Harris.

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Speaker 2: There's no brushing that off, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Brushing that off?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Oh oh that's hit song? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. They're not like top of mind for me.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: It was a fine joke and well crafted. Anyway. I

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Speaker 1: want to point out that the women quoted in this

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Speaker 1: article ere in their twenties through late fifties, but says

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Speaker 1: this one woman who happens to be in her fifties.

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Speaker 1: We're this silent, little silent army. We wear pearls, we

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Speaker 1: wear the Chuck Taylor All Stars. People are painting their

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Speaker 1: fingernails blue. They're wearing friendship bracelets. It's just all these

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Speaker 1: little things, but it seems to be bringing people together.

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Speaker 2: Hold on a second, I gotta get the trash man.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's going to vomit folks. Oh oh no, right

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Speaker 1: on the air. Oh this is disgusting. Harris take a

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Speaker 1: weight nap and the hair's campaign embraced the endorsement selling

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Speaker 1: Harris Walls Friendship bracelets for twenty dollars, Tim Walls War

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Speaker 1: two and mentioned swift during blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Wearing Swifty braces. You gotta go so far with the whole.

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Speaker 4: I'm not toxic masculine guy. I'm feminine guy enough.

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Speaker 1: I know enough, more than enough, but says Jeff Harden,

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Speaker 1: a professor of political science at Notre Dame who co

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Speaker 1: wrote a paper on how Swifties took on Ticketmaster effectively

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Speaker 1: after they botched the rollout of pre sale tickets for

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Speaker 1: the Eras Tory said, Swifties are very good at solving

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Speaker 1: collective action problems. They network like maniacs. And the scheiological

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Speaker 1: part that's interesting to me is it's and this is

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Speaker 1: such a female thing, and I think this is at

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Speaker 1: the heart of why so many young women on college

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Speaker 1: campuses are so angry and radicalized. That's how you belong,

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Speaker 1: that's how you fit in all this article, all the quotes,

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Speaker 1: and again it's very even handed and very respectful of

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Speaker 1: the power that these people have collectively.

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Speaker 2: All of the quotes are about it feels so good.

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Speaker 1: We're all coming together, we all have a community, we

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Speaker 1: all recognize each other, and we see each other and

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Speaker 1: we hug each other, and it's just so wonderful, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't even touch on policy, It doesn't even sniff policy.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Trump and the White House are never ever getting

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Speaker 4: back together again.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, he won't stop for me. That's an hour.

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