1 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: I hope you won't be disappointed, But I feel like 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: this experience has softened me and in the midst of 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: me being home and this grief, and I am impressed. 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: As my daughter used the words months ago by Taylor Swift, 5 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: I think she is so talented and so driven, and 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: she's good at marketing, and she's pretty, and she's you know, 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: gives young girls a good role model. And I don't 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: obviously know her, but she seems like a good person. 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: And I saw her concert and I was thoroughly impressed 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: by her work ethic, Like it was like wow, work ethic. 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: And in her new album coming out, I saw what 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: was going on in social media about her and Kim Kardashian, 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: and I wasn't paying attention with that original happened that 14 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: thing with I remember the Kanye moment on stage, and 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: that was traumatic and taking away someone's moment, that's bad, 16 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: and that's anecdotal for us. And we read that in 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: a headline, but like, I can't imagine what that must 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: have felt like. But what doesn't kill us makes her stronger. 19 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: And probably that experience made her stronger. And speaking of 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: a Kanye song, and he was with Kim and you know, 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is the probably the nice girl in the cafeteria, 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: and Kim is like the more hot, sexier, more advanced 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: girl in the cafeteria, right, And Kim got with Kanye, 24 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: and I guess there's been there was like a frank 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: inbited recording of their phone call saying that Taylor approved 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: something to be in a song, which is saying that 27 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: tailor is a liar. But I think about the fact 28 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: that a couple of months ago, during Taylor's tour, because Taylor, 29 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: I guess, came out in Time magazine and like was 30 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: on the cover, and she then revealed that it was 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: traumatizing for her and that she left the country, and 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was really bad and you don't know 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: how she was emotionally, but emotional low. I mean, it 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: sounded really bad, horrible, and I'm sure Kim wasn't thinking 35 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: about the consequences of her actions and actions. And you know, 36 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give everybody that. And Kim's a very hard 37 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: working and driven person too, you know, which is interesting 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: and the only person probably, I mean, there are other 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: people more famous than Kim Kardashian. I'm sure, I don't know, 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't follow fame that closely, but it's 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: inarguable that Taylor Swift is more famous, more relevant, and 42 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, now more even global than Kim Kardashian. I mean, 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: she's she's the Beatles, I mean two point zero in 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: an age of social media. So Kim Kardashian, someone who's 45 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: been successful and also wealthy, and you know, has a 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: person who's more famous than her that now tells a 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: magazine about a traumatic experience at the hand of someone 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: else who's extremely influential. And I really thought that Kim 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: would say something, just say something. You know, she's a mother, 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: she's a role model to many and a parent, So 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: to just say, like acknowledgment different time. You know, we 52 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: all make it. I've made a lot of mistakes. I've 53 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: said a lot of things I shouldn't have said. I 54 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: said a lot of things that have hurt you. I 55 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: said a lot of things that I regret. So now 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: we come out and this song comes out and it's 57 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: thank you Amy. Now, I the song was probably written 58 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: a while ago. I mean people could write songs years ago, 59 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: and now it's coming out. And Taylor's also a business 60 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: person and a marketer and she leaves. I guess these clues, 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: these little treasure hunts for people to find, and that 62 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: she is a business person. It's not called show friends, 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: it's show business. So more record, more albums will sell 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: with these clues, and that's completely her right and her prerogative. 65 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: And so some people, not that many. Some people can't 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: believe that, like, oh my god, you know, it's so 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: the clues are so big. It's like, kay I am 68 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: in the song and it says talks about her daughter, 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: and it talks about and the mother wished she were dead, 70 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: like and that's being misconstrued. There's no way the tale. 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Tail's not wishing death on someone. She's saying a truth, 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: like as my business to talk about how someone someone 73 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: experiences a trauma, And it sounds like Taylor's saying that 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: this was a trauma in her life. So now this 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: song comes out and people are saying, we hope that 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: this conflict can be put to bed. And did she 77 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: need to bring the daughter into it and say, like 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: your daughter, you know, Taylor said your daughter will be 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: singing my songs or something. And Dave Portnoy's opinion has 80 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: been like her whole family shouldn't be singing it. But 81 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: what hit me and grieving and being home was what 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: if Kim Kardashian had said sorry? What if she had 83 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: said when the Time magazine article came out, Because we're 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: playing Devil's Advocate, she didn't say sorry back then. She 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: had three chances to say sorry. She still has a chance. 86 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: So she didn't say sorry when it happened. She didn't 87 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: say sorry when I guess she got caught for it happening. 88 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know when that was. She certainly did it. 89 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: You guys say so, then she didn't say sorry when 90 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: it happened or when she got caught for it, And 91 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: she didn't say sorry when after cooler minds have prevailed 92 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: and Time magazine or I think it was Time Magazine 93 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: puts Taylor on the cover as the most fascinating or 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: interesting or influential Woman of the Year, and Taylor says 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: it traumatized her, like you know what it's like to 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: be a girl and like to go through a very 97 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: bad experience. And then everyone in the headline's fade and 98 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: we think she's just like fine now, and she's been traumatized. 99 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: So Kim didn't acknowledge that then, And they're a family 100 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: that doesn't acknowledge the negative people are on her page. 101 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: She doesn't. They don't care, they don't acknowledge. They keep 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: forging through. It's a model, it's you know. Some say 103 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: it's gaslighting, some say it's ignoring. Don't ignore the haters. 104 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: You know that the whole family just moves on through. 105 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: And they're not the same person, the families, they're all 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: they're all different human beings, which we'll get into. So 107 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: if she had said I'm sorry, would it have been 108 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: too late for Taylor to have released the song? Would 109 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: she have released the song and sent a disclaimer that 110 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: everybody can everybody can change, And I accept your apology 111 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: and thank you as a mother, as a role model, 112 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: as a woman. And then finally that fans should not 113 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: be pitting them against each other. There's no team Kim 114 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: team Taylor. You shouldn't be feeding and frothing it anymore 115 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: than people should be feeding and frothing a rivalry between 116 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: Meg and Markle and Kate like they're two different women 117 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: and they should be acknowledged and supported differently. And many 118 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: of you will have a problem with me saying that 119 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: because I said crime a River about Megi Markle when 120 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: she before her Oprah interview, before she sat down, and 121 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: I did always have an opinion about the way that 122 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: things were handled by she and her husban. But you 123 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to apologize to her. I hope 124 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: she accepts my apology. I'm going to apologize to you. 125 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: I should not have said that, and I should not 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: have assumed understanding what another person went through as another woman, 127 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: as a mother. And I know many of you would 128 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: disagree with her choices, many of you agree, many of 129 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: you were hurt by it. It's about I didn't need 130 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: to say that. I'm going to apologize for saying that 131 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: or anything. I didn't need to say anything. I could 132 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: have just talked about the way I just did. Now, 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm not against Kim. I've met Kim. She's professional, she's nice, 134 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: She's a nice person. From what I've met. I've met Chloe, 135 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: She's been lovely. I've said positive things about Kim's you know, 136 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: makeup and her socks, and I've said positive things about 137 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: all of the Kardashians. I said something once about Kylie's 138 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: daughter wearing a backpack, thinking I was talking about a 139 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: decision that Kylie made to put an expensive backpack on 140 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: her daughter, and people agreed. That doesn't matter that people 141 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: agree with me, and that I got follows and let 142 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I said it. And a woman named Nancy Rogers, 143 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: who's good friends with Chris and the family, wanted me 144 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: to apology. She said it was it's a child. I 145 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: wasn't saying it to the child. The child was two 146 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: years old, like that's but it doesn't matter, like I'm sorry. 147 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to Chris Jenner saying that, and I'm sorry 148 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: that to Megan Markle. And Ellen DeGeneres called me after 149 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: I said the first thing and said to me, I 150 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: really think you should apologize. And she had her reasons 151 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: for what she believed they were going through. And none 152 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: of us know what anyone went through, good or bad, 153 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: right or wrong. We agree, we don't agree. It doesn't matter. 154 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: I didn't need to say it about another woman. And 155 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: that's where I think that. Had Kim Kardashian just said 156 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that Taylor might have said I forgive you 157 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: and it's okay. We'll both strong women and Taylor will 158 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: want to be a mother, and it would have been 159 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: very different the result. That's what I feel. So and 160 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: while we're at it. While I'm on the apology tour, 161 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: I am sorry that I commented saying that Travis being 162 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: the peacock in their relationship. I don't know Taylor or Travis, 163 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: and I have said really positive things about their relationship 164 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: and they're both in their moments of glory and they're together. 165 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: But you know what, I apologize to Travis and his 166 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: parents who took offense to me saying he's the peacock 167 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: in the relationship because I'm a voice, but I don't 168 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: need to talk about things that I really don't know. 169 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: And I am certainly no one to be an authority 170 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: on relationship because I wrote a book called Those Second 171 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Relationships You Don't have to And I genuinely apologize to 172 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: Taylor and Travis and his family, and I hope that 173 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: they live happily ever after in a very healthy relationship.