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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast thanks, they could give Jason

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Speaker 1: Statham a run for his money.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hans's got heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler

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Speaker 2: heroes both Week fifteen preview in Bulk And here's some

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Speaker 2: data points.

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Speaker 3: Boys, will a little data points entering? Sure, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: of course get.

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Speaker 4: Into the Yeah, I think Dan, I think data absolutely,

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Speaker 4: data points.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen of thirty teams playing Saturday Sunday Monday are either

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Speaker 2: seven and six or six and seven. Here's something's going

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Speaker 2: to really blow your mind. Gregy forty three point three

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Speaker 2: percent of the league. Aaron Shatz, friend of the show

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Speaker 2: Analytics Demigod, creator of DVOA.

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Speaker 3: And many hot Saturday Nights Good Ladies.

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Speaker 2: Said on Twitter seven different NFL games this week where

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Speaker 2: his projected line is less than three points, including all

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Speaker 2: three Saturday games we have, and you're going to get

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Speaker 2: the recap tonight. A true loser goes home match on

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Speaker 2: TNF five and eight Raiders five and eight charges. I

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Speaker 2: know they're already dead, but nine losses goodbye and three

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Speaker 2: seven and six vs. Seven and six, both of them

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Speaker 2: are two seven and six and seven and six both

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Speaker 2: Saturday on NFL Network Ding and one six and seven v.

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Speaker 2: Six and seven, which should be an elimination game, but

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Speaker 2: it won't be because the NFC Wildcard race is quite

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Speaker 2: frankly uncouth.

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Speaker 5: I feel like many decades ago, like Pete Roselle, former commissioner,

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Speaker 5: this is what they've always wanted, and we're.

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Speaker 4: Here where Rozelle wanted. I know rog wants it in general, superpowers, right,

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Speaker 4: Burt Bell wanted it. Not to get all oh Wesseling

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Speaker 4: on you here, but he would talk about Burt Bell

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Speaker 3: Mark, that was his vision, Right, you should just excuse yourself.

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Speaker 3: It's just no reason to do the show.

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Speaker 5: I'm just more saying like, for for as long as

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Speaker 5: we've been watching football, like they didn't want four teams

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Speaker 5: non existent right now. Each week we thought about like

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Speaker 5: we could speed round through games that don't have a

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Speaker 2: In the past, we've been able to start picking and

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Speaker 3: Of the games, which is cool. Let's go, let's figure

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the new world, like the way the NFL draft

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Speaker 4: in part the most successful American sport because it's as

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Speaker 4: socialist as possible. They all own the league together, and

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Speaker 4: at some point they've kind of gotten rid of that

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Speaker 4: And it happened to work pretty well for this business.

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Speaker 4: That's why we don't have, you know, Patrick Mahomes signing

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Speaker 4: Hey Otani is seven hundred million dollars, what is Patrick Mahomes'

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Speaker 4: actual value, like on a ten year contract, I would

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Speaker 2: Otani is kind of an outlier because he's a true

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Speaker 5: I get it, that's true, but Mahomes is becoming that,

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Speaker 4: But every football a quarterback is more valuable than any

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Speaker 3: Otani's like like in the Unicorn.

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Speaker 2: World, literally brought up to one player in the history

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Speaker 2: That's you know, speaking of Chris Westling, the old lombardiism,

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Speaker 3: And yet in this week quarterbacks for telling you that's

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Speaker 4: I like that you're excited, though, for what these are

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Speaker 4: And when you look at how the team is trending,

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Speaker 4: Their best cornerback hasn't been himself and is out of practice,

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Speaker 3: That's why I added all up.

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Speaker 4: And I think like they're probably better than a aching

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Speaker 3: And that's why I'm locking up the Ravens. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: We're just we're doing it. We're going, got a show going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Greg has been out of control this season

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Speaker 3: Mark.

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Speaker 5: I texted our producing crew that I was also locking

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Speaker 5: up the Ravens, but it's too boring.

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I just don't want to do it to

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Speaker 5: But no, no, you can go, because that would be

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Speaker 5: all three of us doing and then it's just it's

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Speaker 3: At that point, you'll think about it. Let me think

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Speaker 5: I'm not taking a shot at you at all. I

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Speaker 5: he had five turnover worthy plays. You're right about Evan Ingram,

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Speaker 3: I mean it should be. There needs to be like

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Speaker 4: I think the idea was supposed to be Ridley Kirk

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Speaker 3: He's back at practice there.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: It's like the I guess these injuries that look sort

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Speaker 3: They're fined by Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I'm sure it's probably been a rough week for him.

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Speaker 4: He's probably grinding through it.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying he doesn't feel pain. It's just that

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Speaker 5: most of these guys probably hasn't laughed since last Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence has a high ankle sprain. Yeah, man, and

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Speaker 5: it didn't look like.

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Speaker 3: He had on a Super Bowl a high ankle spring.

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Speaker 4: I trust their running game, I trust their defense. I

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Speaker 2: Be very noivous if I'm a Jaguars fan heading into

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Speaker 5: I would say that this, you know, thirty three plus

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Speaker 4: To me, the Seahawks have been struggling, and I hate

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Speaker 4: But considering how recent the Seahawks and Eagles both just

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Speaker 4: I'm the only team that picked the Eagles. They are

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Speaker 2: I think they are in a good position here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: They are well coached. They are they are pissed off,

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Speaker 2: And if they do that, everyone's gonna even though they

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Speaker 4: So the sky is not falling and you can get

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Speaker 3: You better hide Pete Carroll's wife. If that's what, if

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Speaker 4: I think he talked about making some changes, and I

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Speaker 3: Because he's their worst player right now? All right?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, when he got toasted last week watching him

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's obvious. Okay, Cowboys at Bills, come on, Gregy, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I just didn't know if he would want to protect

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Speaker 5: We've been saying that for weeks. It's not like suddenly

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Speaker 4: Brett fav Championship year.

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Speaker 5: They are We just talked about all the problems the

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Speaker 5: Eagles are happy having. It's like to me, I don't

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Speaker 5: care where this all ends up. Like the Cowboys are

441
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Speaker 5: right now better than the Eagles, and they proved it

442
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Speaker 5: last week pretty decisively. I think they're far better than

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Speaker 5: the Bills, I really do. I don't like that this

444
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Speaker 5: is in Buffalo. I think Dallas is a really different team.

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Speaker 5: They they it's on grass. Their losses have come on grass.

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Speaker 3: Does that matter? I think it does, just.

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Speaker 5: Not turf, but like actual grass. You well, I don't

448
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Speaker 5: know about that. I could study that, but like get

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Speaker 5: back to that one earth.

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Speaker 4: Grass post game paid Management. Earth Grass like they're in

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Speaker 4: western New York, not too far from Woodstock, you know.

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Speaker 3: Just that's true.

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Speaker 5: All these things are who Stock is roughly that happened

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Speaker 5: fifty three years ago, fifty four years ago.

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Speaker 2: But Woodstock, Yeah, I was talking about, Yeah, the olymp biscuit, Woodstock,

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 5: Oh, no, I'm thinking of like the one that was

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Speaker 5: actually no, I'm sure I'm with you. Yours was a

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Speaker 5: that one was a disaster.

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Speaker 3: Don't say yours. Well no, but like if you were

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Speaker 3: that's sixty nine is yours?

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Speaker 5: No, you're you're refer no, you're referring to like your

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Speaker 5: Woodstock reference is the okay?

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Speaker 4: I mean, why would you go to just having a

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Speaker 4: good time. Greg brought up the ninety nine one.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. There's also ninety four when green Day ate

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Speaker 3: the mud. That was a sneaky that.

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Speaker 5: One had to that's second place, the other one third place,

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Speaker 5: olymp biscuit, third place. I this is the one thing

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Speaker 5: is I think the Bills now are in the same

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Speaker 5: They beat the Chiefs, but we're all like everyone's down

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Speaker 5: on the Chiefs. And it was that came down to

473
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Speaker 5: controversy at the end, but like Buffalo right here kind

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Speaker 5: of announces to us, yes we're for real, yes, like

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Speaker 5: we still or a super Bowl contender or see you later.

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Speaker 5: I don't care mathematically what happens, but it's kind of

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Speaker 5: see you later for me because I don't I know, Greg,

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Speaker 5: You're gonna argue they're gonna still be a viable walking

479
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Speaker 5: if you get wiped here.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who the Bills are at this point.

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Speaker 3: I don't who they aren't. I think there somewhere in between.

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Speaker 3: It's a good game between two game teams and like

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Speaker 3: you said, the Cowboy if they get wiped though, if.

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Speaker 5: Dallas comes in and drops a bomb, then like, but

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: I'll see.

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Speaker 2: It surprised me on two parts because the Cowboys, as

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Speaker 2: riding high as they are, this really sets up well.

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Speaker 3: Unless Dallas is one of those all time.

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Speaker 2: Great teams, which I'm not ready to go that far,

491
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Speaker 2: but they are performing like one of those teams to

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Speaker 2: come down a little bit. The Bills obviously, once again,

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Speaker 2: it's almost even though it doesn't eliminate them, it's gonna

494
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Speaker 2: have the feel of a desperate kind of playoff game

495
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Speaker 2: type vibe for them, and it's a it's interesting that

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get a Bills team that, uh, they're two

497
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Speaker 2: point underdog or two point favorites actually, despite the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Being as hot as they are.

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Speaker 2: So you people feel the similar way that we feel

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Speaker 2: that the Bills are dangerous in the spot. I'm thinking

501
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Speaker 2: if they do find a way, the rest of the

502
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Speaker 2: AFC is gonna go oh no, yes, I agree with

503
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Speaker 2: that after all the hand ringing, and deservedly so, because

504
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Speaker 2: Buffalo has stubbed its toe time and time again.

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Speaker 3: As Eric Roberts knows, if.

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Speaker 2: The Bills come out of this game with a win,

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Speaker 2: they are the team in the AFC that suddenly scares

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Speaker 2: me more than any other team in an uncertain conference

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Speaker 2: near the top and quickly.

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Speaker 5: I think it's like if you get the version of

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen that we've been getting the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 5: and you get it again and they beat Dallas, like

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Speaker 5: that's what makes me think, uh oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Their offense is awesome. I think they're figuring

515
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Speaker 4: it out. I think the offensive line is playing well.

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Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen if I was doing QB Index,

517
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Speaker 4: like Nick, I'd probably have it. This is tough, you know,

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen be no lower than three for this entire season,

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Speaker 4: and just on a game the game Bass, I might

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Speaker 4: take them right now over anyone, I think because his

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Speaker 4: highs are just are just higher, and I think he's

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Speaker 4: had a better season. It's really exciting to have him

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Speaker 4: against Dak, who's, you know, right now the MVP favor.

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Speaker 4: But they're getting variety in their offense, James Cook being

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Speaker 4: used more as a receiver. I think they realize what

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Speaker 4: they have in Kincaid, like they have enough right now

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Speaker 4: on offense. They're using Allen for the design run game.

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Speaker 4: I think they'll put up points in this game. I

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Speaker 4: think it'll be really exciting. But defense matters too, And

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Speaker 4: I just look at their defense and I'm like, do

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Speaker 4: they have a personnel to do it? Because it just

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Speaker 4: feels like Sean McDermott's cooking up different things and it

533
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Speaker 4: can work for a couple quarters at a time, but

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Speaker 4: they're just not that good. And then Micah Hyde is

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Speaker 4: hurt again. Damar Hamlin is probably coming in this week

536
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Speaker 4: and they need the Damar Hamlin. It's interesting because Damar Hamlin.

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Speaker 4: The only talk about him has obviously been about what

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Speaker 4: happened last year, and okay, he's been in active this year.

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Speaker 4: They need Damar Hamlin, the football player back from where

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Speaker 4: he was before the injury in this game. I think

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Speaker 4: because Taylor Rap's been you know, kind of a disaster

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Speaker 4: as a free agent signing, Mikeah Hyde is out, I

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Speaker 4: think Hamlin's going to be playing in this game. And

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Speaker 4: they had a nice safety group before, and I think

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Speaker 4: it would really help, you know, if he can be

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Speaker 4: the player that he used to be, and we have

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Speaker 4: to imagine they don't see him as that player this

548
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Speaker 4: year or else he would have been on the field

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Speaker 4: this year. This was a guy who was, you know,

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Speaker 4: a fill in every week. He was starting last year

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Speaker 4: and making a difference. Epanes is also hurt, so I

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Speaker 4: worry about that matchup. I'm a little surprised you mentioned

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Speaker 4: the Bills are favored in this game. The money line

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Speaker 4: is minus one twenty five for the Bills. That's a

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Speaker 4: little crazy. I've I've gone back and forth all week

556
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Speaker 4: just thinking who am I going to pick for game

557
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Speaker 4: to view, and I still land on the Cowboys because

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Speaker 4: to me, they're just Still I've picked the Bills to

559
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Speaker 4: win I think every single week this year. I and

560
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Speaker 4: yet I still think it's such a mismatch. Their offensive

561
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Speaker 4: line versus the Bills defensive line, Jake Ferguson getting it

562
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Speaker 4: done versus whatever's happened in the middle of the field,

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Speaker 4: Like they just have more answers offensively cooks, like it's

564
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Speaker 4: all happening for Cowboys if they run the ball better,

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Speaker 4: and so I just think they're they're better equipped to

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Speaker 4: win thirty seven to thirty three.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, because does in this feel almost

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Speaker 2: like a mortal lock that Josh Allen has at least

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Speaker 2: four touchdowns in this?

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be a great game. I'll I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you about immortal lock. Oh is he gonna do it?

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Speaker 5: I against all the logic that was just voiced, it

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Speaker 5: is logical. Yes, Buffalo is going to change their season

574
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Speaker 5: and they're going to take this game. I'm locking the Bills.

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Speaker 5: I don't care about the spreads. I don't care about

576
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Speaker 5: the money. Their favorite I don't. I just don't care

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Speaker 5: what it is.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of I don't know that was my favorite

579
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Speaker 4: thing does take a little of it, but I like it.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, their favorites in the game. So it's

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Speaker 2: not overly you know, out on a limb, but for

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Speaker 2: a lot that's fine.

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Speaker 5: I think the general like football watching population would be

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Speaker 5: impressed if the Bills pulled this off.

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Speaker 3: It's not just Hay There's going to absolutely blow out

586
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Speaker 3: the Bills. Yeah, it's like they enter a different stratosphere. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I do think there's a.

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Speaker 4: Place in between where it's a great game and the

589
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Speaker 4: cow and the Bills fall just short and it's really painful. Again,

590
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Speaker 4: but that they're seven and seven and they have three

591
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Speaker 4: games left that they can win all three of those

592
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Speaker 4: games and then they'd be in there.

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Speaker 3: They're also seven and seven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And the one thing that this is starting to

595
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Speaker 5: matter at this point, there's not a billion games left.

596
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Speaker 5: They lose the tiebreaker to the Bengals, the Broncos, the Texans,

597
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Speaker 5: the Colts, and the Steelers, so.

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Speaker 4: They might not need to worry about it if they

599
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Speaker 4: go win the division, which is very much on the table.

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Speaker 4: Even if they lose this game, get to ten, you

601
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Speaker 4: probably get to you right though.

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Speaker 2: The one thing in the on their side here is

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Speaker 2: that ten feels like it's going to be a magic number.

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Speaker 3: We've seen it.

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Speaker 2: We've seen eleven and five teams not make the playoffs,

606
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Speaker 2: but it feels like the way it's shaping up right now,

607
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Speaker 2: ten should get there. So you got to win three

608
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Speaker 2: or four and if you win this one, the Dolphins

609
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Speaker 2: are gonna start sweating. So they said, man, is this

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Speaker 2: the vision safe? All right, let's take a break and

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Speaker 3: It's a good one too.

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Speaker 4: And no one told the NFL Network Saturday is Rosenthal

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Speaker 4: Christmas because my family.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's a better greg than three games on

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Speaker 3: a Saturday or Greg.

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Speaker 4: The NFL was told that and specifically decided to lay

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Speaker 4: out ruin Rosen thought Christmas not happening thrills that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're to get ready for next season. Here's what I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna do that today.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna rewatch Colts, Patriots, the the Europe game at

633
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Speaker 5: six thirty in the morning, and then watch all three

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Speaker 5: of these and not leave my house training.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense the body and mind. I

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Speaker 3: will do what they tell me. Greg, you're up.

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Speaker 4: I'm an interesting spot here when I feel like I've

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Speaker 4: never had on the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, it's done like fifteen hundred episodes.

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Speaker 4: Because the game I want to watch the most, and

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Speaker 4: this is rare. The two games I want to watch

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Speaker 4: the most in the early both involve your teams. But

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Speaker 4: the Browns, you know, it's been uncertain whether whether they

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Speaker 4: are available, whether they are marks team. That is the

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Speaker 4: game I want to watch the Moons, but you should

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Speaker 4: and are they allowed? Are they available?

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Speaker 3: You are allowed? Okay, that's my that's an early Christmas gift.

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Speaker 3: Ro Christmas, I'm taking Browns. Can I just say yes?

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Speaker 3: My concern in terms of coverage, are you going to

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Speaker 3: be watching the Browns on on Sunday. Now are you

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Speaker 3: going to be watching Bill's Cowboys on Sunday? Well, that's

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Speaker 3: in the late window. I mean a little tricky. There's

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Speaker 3: multiple windows, but I'll I won't be on a late window.

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Speaker 5: Greg and I also both watch our games on like

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00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 5: a on a lesser technology. I actually won't be in

656
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 5: the office during the early window for the first time

657
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: all season. So no matter what I do, it won't

658
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: affect Greg on any level unless I start textingdn't It

659
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: wouldn't affect me. Talk about for you in the program,

660
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 5: your program, I mean, I will be doing what I

661
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: you know, on these sunnage you got to try to

662
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: do what you want no matter what.

663
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: But he says to take it.

664
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: I'm taking Bears at Browns because I really want to

665
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: watch this game and it's a bad early window. Jets

666
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: Dolphins is also very intriguing, but I don't want to

667
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: take that from you from Browns are favored by three.

668
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: The money line is one sixty six, and it's another

669
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: game that's very tough to pick because there's a lot

670
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: of reasons to like the Bears. Right now, we've talked

671
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: about the Browns a lot, and I'm sure we will

672
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: more in this preview, but the Bears really have put

673
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: together a great stretch of defensive play.

674
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: For a long time, I kept.

675
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: Saying, Mattterberfluss, defensive coach, are you showing me anything on defense?

676
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: All these draft picks you took in the second showing

677
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: me anything on deefen blah blah blah blah blah blah.

678
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: Since Week five, fifth and EPA, their defensive backs, I

679
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: thought you saw in last week's game against Detroit, really

680
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: are great in terms of their communication. Kyler Gordon's playing well,

681
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson's playing well. They mix up coverage as well.

682
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: Montes Sweat has added a little heat. Overall, it really

683
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: looks like quite a good defense. And they're not great

684
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: applying pressure, but Flacco's really faced no pressure in the

685
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks.

686
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: He's been protected well.

687
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of injuries up front for the

688
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: Browns and they've done an incredible job surviving them.

689
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: You wouldn't know it.

690
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: Bill Callahan is again in the greatest off you know,

691
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: offensive line coach in the league. Sefanski's done a nice

692
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: job coaching and putting a nice group around him. But

693
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: I'm really curious about that matchup. This Bears defense has

694
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: been playing very well. Does Joe Flacco make a few

695
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: more mistakes. Does the Cinderella story offensively for them come

696
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: back to Earth? I think it does, and I think

697
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: it's a low scoring game, and I'm interested to see

698
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: what happens here.

699
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean EPA wise, the Browns passing attack, you know,

700
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 5: pre Flacco was one of the worst in the league,

701
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 5: and it's obviously there's an uptick. I'm at the point

702
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 5: with the Browns where like to your like the Bill

703
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: Callahan thing is masked over some insane injury situations, like

704
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: they've lost Jederick Wills their left tackle. They lost en

705
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 5: Jack Conklin, the right tackle, Dwan Jones, the very promising

706
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: rookie tackle has now been put on IR post surgery.

707
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 5: Garn Christian, their new left tackle, is ranked seventy fifth

708
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: out of eighty four tackles per PFF. Their right tackle,

709
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: James Hudson, is eighty four out of eighty four. So

710
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 5: at some point, like you know, unless you can continue

711
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: to mass this over, you've got a problem. They also

712
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 5: on defense, like you know, not to do the injury thing.

713
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: But like now we even covered this, Yeah, we've talked

714
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 5: about a lot of other teams is being extremely banged up.

715
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 5: Like the Brown's already lost. We get it, like maybe

716
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 5: the most necessary running back in the league for the

717
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: team that he's on. They've lost three quarterbacks. They've worked

718
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 5: the way through that their entire backfield is actually banged

719
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: up right now. Kareem Hunt is in and out of practice.

720
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: Jerome Ford is an in and out of practice. Like

721
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: they signed Grant Heelpit, a really promising starish safety to

722
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 5: an extension last weekend, and then he just immediately goes

723
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 5: on IR during the game.

724
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: The game they made the transaction. Well, it's just I mean,

725
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: you could tell he was done. He's out for the year.

726
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: We hadn't mentioned that he's gone.

727
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: He might make the Pro Bowl, and he has announce

728
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: of his questionable return and then put him on IR.

729
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: You you could tell right away he was see you later.

730
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: Aggaranko has been a really like productive pass rusher behind

731
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 5: Garrett and the rest of that crew and is used

732
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: really creatively.

733
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: He's gone. It's like, there's they lost three new defensive

734
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: players and for the year last week. So I give it.

735
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 5: I give them, like Stefanski and the Browns in general,

736
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 5: like a lot of credit because just again, like in

737
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: that locker room after that game last week, like there

738
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 5: aren't that many Browns teams, Like I think they just

739
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: stuck through together through so many stormy situations. But I

740
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: think you could have looked at this schedule down two

741
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 5: months ago and thought the Bears will be that game

742
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: that we that we get back on track with it

743
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 5: for if we if we had a tough week against

744
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: you know, these previous up opponents.

745
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: And it's like they're a totally different team right.

746
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 5: Now that Derek Bazerker right, And so I think it's

747
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 5: a I think it's a real weird situation for the Browns.

748
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: I this gives me no pleasure to say it, but

749
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: I think the Browns are ripe to be the team

750
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: in clear playoff positioning that falls out, and I like.

751
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: The Bears to win this game. It's a coin flip,

752
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: but I would take the back I do.

753
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: I also believe the Bears are in good position here.

754
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: They're just playing really well on both sides of the

755
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: ball right now. And that's a credit, just like your

756
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: credits the fancy to Ebra flus is finally finding some

757
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: type of semblance of an identity with this team and

758
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: the thing about a Flacco, and it's been a good story.

759
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: This is his third start, right, yes, but yeah, if

760
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: the offensive line continues to crumble with injuries and the

761
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: defense is not what it once was earlier in the season,

762
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: I do feel like there's some smoke and mirrors going

763
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: on with the Browns right now, and eight and five

764
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: I think could easily be you know, eight and seven

765
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: going into week eighteen, and I just got kind of

766
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: a bad feeling about how their season.

767
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: Is going to co mean maybe, but I would say,

768
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: like you could get a Texans team minus c. J.

769
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: Stroud. They played the Jets after that, then they play

770
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: the Bengals, So it's.

771
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: Not those games are winnable, including this one, because as

772
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: for all the injuries that happened, and a lot of

773
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 4: those happened during the game, so they were already without them.

774
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 3: Last week they were outstanding. They were peak Brown.

775
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: I know the final score doesn't make you look at it,

776
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: but then once they watch a game, I realized, oh wow,

777
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: they dominated the Jaguars offense and they could absolutely flummex

778
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 4: fields who hits a couple on scripted plays and is

779
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: running well. But like if you told me they win

780
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: this game seventeen fourteen, that would not surprise me at

781
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: all either.

782
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on the Buccaneers, eh, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

783
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 2: They are you know, they're frisky, they try their best.

784
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: I think they're they're scraping the ceiling of their ability

785
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: this season and now they have a big test if

786
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: you want to, because I think Mark, you and I

787
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: both believe the Bucks will be the team that comes

788
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: out of the NFC South. Well, if you go to

789
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: Lambeau and beat the Packers, I'm loving it. I'm loving

790
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: your chances of doing that. Now, it's gonna be tough

791
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: because it's Packers by three and a half here. And

792
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: I think with Green Bay we talked about it. That

793
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: Giants game disappointing, yes, because it really slowed down what

794
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: looked like a freight train that was building up. But

795
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: I also looked at that Giants game as they were

796
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: in a weird spot on the road in prime time

797
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: with Tommy cutlet Mania going off, and you know, you

798
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: get off to a little bit of a slow start

799
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: on the road, and then they were able to recorrect

800
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: and then they just didn't take care of business at

801
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: the end of the game and they get beat. I

802
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: don't think that didn't feel like the type of loss

803
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: to me, and I could be wrong, because they can

804
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: now revert back to their early season for him, and

805
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: that's happened a lot in this league this year, where

806
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: you think you figure out a team and then something

807
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: else happens. I think it's more likely that that was

808
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: a bump in the road rather than this hot streak's over.

809
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: So I feel really good about the Packers. Is he

810
00:35:53,200 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: going to do it? In fact? Greg? Greg, Yes, I

811
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: must thank you. You were there for me.

812
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: In my great time of need, when I was a

813
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: fragile baby bird who had fallen from the nest. You

814
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: lifted me up, oh boy, healed my broken wing, provided

815
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: me shelter at a time of great anguish.

816
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: But now with my body healed and mind clear, I

817
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: must go on my own.

818
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: Just know, Chief Mighty Unk, I will not forget what

819
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: you did for me on this long journey into the

820
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: great unknown. I locked the cheeseheads of Wisconsin at home.

821
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. It's a tough moment, you know.

822
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: We we flew so high together in every mentor's life.

823
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: The greatest wish you can have is to see that

824
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: little hatchling grow up and and fly away. Chief Mighty Hunk,

825
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: be a man picker.

826
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: Thank you.

827
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 4: And yet it's it's painful. It's painful because you missed.

828
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: You missed those those times, glorious two weeks.

829
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: That three nothing win, watching that field goal split the uprights,

830
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: watching great Joe.

831
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: Get us over the top, that this bump we have

832
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: as Mark looked on disgustedly, I'll always remember it.

833
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: Speaking of the lock competition, let's check out the standings.

834
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: Oh yes, there's a reason why I rode with Chief

835
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: Mighty Honk, because he's thirteen and one this season.

836
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: The West Brothers bad loss.

837
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: Last week, Nick got a little too high into his

838
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: character study and laughed at the Jets, so they had

839
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: to humble him ten and four. And now me and

840
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: the cesstag locked at the bottom at seven and seven.

841
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: This is the peak.

842
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: I need to take a picture of this because it's

843
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 4: gonna get uglier. This is this is Chief Mighty.

844
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I'll throw one thing out there, Chief Mighty Honk, And

845
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: this is not part of that monologuecause this would be

846
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: great disrespect to the Mighty Chief that that Lions game

847
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: was a little dicey against the Saints late, and then

848
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: there was a three to nothing game with the team

849
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: of eighten and I'm wondering if if maybe you're due

850
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: for a stomach.

851
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: Well, no kidding, it's mostly luck. Like a lot half

852
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: these games come down to the end. Thirteen and one,

853
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: we'll take. Well, if that's luck, Mark thirteen and one.

854
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: I don't think it's luck at all. I think it

855
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 4: just pure skill.

856
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: I think it's quite a bit of luck. I do

857
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: you guys agree with me about Love though?

858
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 5: That?

859
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: And the Packers? Yes? Like did that? Did you come

860
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: out of that loss? Greg? Like concerned about them coming

861
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: back down to Earth.

862
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: I'm always concerned about their defense. I never trust it.

863
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be concerned in this game because

864
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: they're playing the Bucks. They're only favored by three and

865
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: a half. A little surprising actually that it's not low.

866
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: The money lines won seventy five. I just think, like,

867
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: how are you letting Tommy DeVito run on you with?

868
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: With these Reid options and saquon they collapsed defensively. They

869
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: were really disappointed. You can't expect Love to be elite

870
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 4: every week. But they missed Christian Watson and Aaron Jones

871
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: when they're not out there. I mean, Aaron Jones is

872
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: back at practice. He's been at practice though, so that

873
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 4: doesn't guarantee anything. Watson is out of practice still with

874
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 4: that hamstring from a few weeks ago that he had,

875
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 4: and Agy Dillon's out of practice. I assume he'll be

876
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: fine because he finished that game. Don Tavian Wis is

877
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: out of practice. There's not anything about this team that's

878
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: special enough that I'm just like, chalk it up, you

879
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: gotta wake up defense. Who knows the Bucks have been

880
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 4: running the ball surprisingly well with Rashad White for about

881
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: a month now, and like I'm always worried about any

882
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 4: team that can run a little bit against it.

883
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think it's a very good lock. Actually,

884
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: Packers defense, it has been a mess.

885
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: But I did find interesting that this was the week

886
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 5: that like, and I know it's because the way that

887
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: game ended, but like every time I go on to

888
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 5: X or anywhere, it's like everyone suddenly this week is

889
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 5: ready to throw Joe Barry off the side of a

890
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 5: building in Wisconsinant it was like it's just everyone everyone's

891
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 5: talking about it, like this week and it's like they've

892
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 5: kind of just been this defense outside of you know,

893
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 5: they've gotten There were a couple of games where like this,

894
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 5: the pass rush was spicy with Rashaun Gary, They've been this,

895
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: but like on the love thing like this is a young,

896
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: super young player surrounded by like a bunch of young

897
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 5: wide receivers and you and a young tight end. It's like,

898
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with a little bit of

899
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 5: ebb and flow. It wasn't like what we saw in

900
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 5: those really well coached games previously was just that to

901
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 5: the end of time, you know.

902
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: But so yes, I think they'll bounce back. I mean,

903
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: I think this is a good luck the Giant.

904
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: I I do too, But the Giants did a good

905
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: job making him hold the ball a little longer, confusing

906
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 4: him with all those blitz is NonStop the Bucks. Todd

907
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: Bowles loves the blitz too, So when one plan works

908
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 4: against you, you're gonna keep seeing it again.

909
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: And that's a real test where even though they have

910
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: a you.

911
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: Don't let any I don't care who it is, any

912
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: NFC sal team come into your buildings.

913
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: One thing though, especially a banged up when the field

914
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 5: and the Bucks have been awesome on the road.

915
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: They've been a better team on the road than at home.

916
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: Come on the Bucks here, So here's what the Bucks

917
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: are like.

918
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 5: At one point last week, like Mike Hevin, Mike Evans

919
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 5: was held at eight yards, they were outgained by the

920
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: Falcons by one hundred and forty four. And then Baker

921
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 5: Mayfield leads him on a wacky game when you drive on.

922
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: One of his worst games of the year. Too. They

923
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: are they've been doing this like all year, and they're

924
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: very banged up.

925
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: Carlton Davis, Viavea, Chris Godwin, William goldst and Devin Waite, Ryania, all.

926
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: Those guys are starters, all out of practice.

927
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on snakes to me and yes,

928
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: I will grab the Jets at Dolphins Dolphins game getting

929
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: eight and a half here, it's in Miami and guess

930
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: what else it is.

931
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: It's the Nance Roma Wolfson game. That's interesting. Well was

932
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: that set a long time ago?

933
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: No, it's just that Cowboys Bills is on Fox. Yeah,

934
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: that's the best early game. I kind of agree, so agree.

935
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: This is really interesting from both sides.

936
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: We'll start with Miami because just the devastating Monday Night

937
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: losses devastating as a loss can be for a team

938
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: that's doing as well as they are this season. They

939
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: and what are they They're nine to four right now,

940
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: But to blow that game in historic fashion at home

941
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: to the Titans, I mean, it's not like you got

942
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: picked off by a superpower late. It really leads to

943
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: questions both about their defense, which had been improving as

944
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: the season went along. I'm not overly concerned about the defense,

945
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: but yes, plenty of questions about this offense, which again.

946
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: Listen, it's fun.

947
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, put up fifty points in six hundred yards against

948
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders, but then he cann't do anything against Tennessee.

949
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: And now you get a Jets team that defensively, they've

950
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: really as the season's gone on, gotten better and better,

951
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: and they are I think while earlier in the season

952
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: they weren't playing totally up to expectations. I think the Jets,

953
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: especially against the pass, are gonna be very tough for

954
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: Tua to handle. He wasn't very good on Black Friday

955
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: against the Jets. They had that crazy fail Mary that

956
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: kind of put that game away more than anything, and

957
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: now they are going to be tested the Miami offense

958
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: to once again say week, we're not just somebody that

959
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: beats up on on the you know, the poor kids,

960
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: Like we can go and beat up this Jets defense

961
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: and embarrass them. And on the New York side, it's

962
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: right there now, by the way, not the playoffs because

963
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: they're still they're five and eight, But in terms of

964
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: intrigue around this team, if they went to Miami and

965
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: upset the Dolphins, which I haven't, I think they have

966
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: a chance here Aaron Rodgers could come back Christmas Eve.

967
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: And I know that still doesn't matter too uh in

968
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: terms of talking Lombardi teams.

969
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: They updated that at all though, because I do wonder

970
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: if it didn't happen at practice. He hasn't really been

971
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: in practice, and like they just go over there. They

972
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: had a setback when that said it.

973
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: We haven't heard anything.

974
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have been saying all along that he can

975
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: be medical medically cleared to play on Christmas Eve if

976
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: they are six and eight and mathematically alive. I think

977
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: you see Rogers because knowing the way that team operates,

978
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: in the way he operates.

979
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: Next week, Yeah, we'll get past this first. But like

980
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 3: I I like the spot. But that's what makes this

981
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: game otherwise interesting. I think this is a great week

982
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: for this game to happen.

983
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I think like the you're like, the offense

984
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 5: is not going to be the same, and they weren't

985
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 5: the same. Losing Connor Williams at center matters a lot.

986
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: There were already some issues between Tua and the center.

987
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 5: Quarterback has changed, you know, earlier in the year, but

988
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 5: losing your center matters on an offensive line where he's

989
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 5: calling them the protections and everything else they've they've he's

990
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: never been the same to h when Toront Armstead's not

991
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: in the lineup and those two guys are gone right now,

992
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 5: it's like, we'll see what happens with Toron arms so

993
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 5: there's a slight chance he could play. Apparently, Tyreek Hill

994
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: is banged up Devon a Chain did not practice as

995
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: a Wednesday, So it's like they're they're they're missing guys

996
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 5: right now. And I think the two upper is like

997
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: precise and productive as he's been, Like you start taking

998
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: pieces away around him, I get concerned. But I will

999
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 5: say in that Black Friday game, they ran for one

1000
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty seven on the Jets, and Hill and

1001
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: Waddle combined for seventeen catches for two hundred and sixteen

1002
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 5: yards and two touchdowns. So it's like what they do

1003
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: well worked against the Jets on Black Friday when they

1004
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: won thirty four to thirteen.

1005
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: Guys, I'm just saying that game was accomplished.

1006
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: I think that was a three point game at halftime

1007
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: before the fail Mary. It wasn't like a it wasn't

1008
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 2: a total blood letting like they've done to other teams.

1009
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't think it's gonna happen here.

1010
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: I think it'd be surprised.

1011
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: I am shocked by an eight and a half point

1012
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: spread in this game. The money lines minus four twenty five.

1013
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: I'm with you if I'm a dolphinsan. I'm just hoping

1014
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 4: to get out of here with a win. Forget about

1015
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 4: winning by eight and a half. This is a great

1016
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: time for this game for the Jets because of the

1017
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: injury you mentioned Connor Williams, because of their offense showing

1018
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: some cracks.

1019
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: They need to run the ball.

1020
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: They ran the ball really well against the Titans. That

1021
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: was the thing that kind of got lost in that game.

1022
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: The whole game.

1023
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: He ran against one of the best run defenses in

1024
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: the league. On paper, and they got away from it

1025
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: a few times inside the ten and Tua made some

1026
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 4: big mistakes and they just don't operate the same without Tyreek.

1027
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: So him being Tyreek is as important as any player status.

1028
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: This week, I kind of expect him to play because

1029
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: he finished out the game and that usually is a

1030
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 4: great indication. But man, their lying without Connor Williams like it.

1031
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 4: It's kind of caving in. And yeah, we haven't even

1032
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 4: mentioned Dak. Wilson is easily coming off the best game

1033
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: of his career, and I know.

1034
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: He's on purpose by me because I've seen too much

1035
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: of Zach Wilson get it to get to buy in

1036
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: off that game.

1037
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: But it's better than him coming off another wretched game.

1038
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: I felt different, though, it felt different even than Bengals. Now,

1039
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: he absolutely could come back. I hear what you're saying,

1040
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: but I do you have heard quarterbacks say it before,

1041
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 4: Trent Dilver, all these others like man, after you get bench,

1042
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: sometimes you do come back and you feel like the

1043
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: weight of the world's off your shoulders because the worst

1044
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 4: thing's already happened. And Zach literally said that to one

1045
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: of his teammates bench three times before the game.

1046
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: I guess you're right. It didn't work the other times.

1047
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: Maybe there's been a lot of he's been so inconsistent

1048
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: in his career that any Jet fan that's looking at

1049
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: that and saying, Okay, now we're gonna get that version

1050
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: is overly optimized.

1051
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: I hear you.

1052
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 4: The reason I liked it was it was more about

1053
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 4: the decisions were quicker and he just looked more like

1054
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: a real quarterback versus just hitting some scheming up plays

1055
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 4: and hitting some trick shots, which he also did and

1056
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: he he can do. I think the matchup is tough.

1057
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: The Dolphins defense, despite last week, I think is still

1058
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: very good. But I'm impressed Brees saw. I noticed one

1059
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: thousand and sixty yards for the season yards from scrimmage.

1060
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson is actually on pace for more yards this

1061
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 4: year than last year, So I do feel good.

1062
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: And the Jets defense, after saying wow.

1063
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: We're a little closer to just good earlier in the year,

1064
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 4: is up to third in d v A defensively, which

1065
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: you could passes the eye test. They the things you

1066
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 4: thought you had that we're going to be around are

1067
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: now I still feel good about that.

1068
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: For the Jets, handsome Hank and Dolphins fans out there,

1069
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: because you know my feelings about the Dolphins. I'm going

1070
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 2: to let you know right now that if you beat

1071
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: up on the Jets on Sunday, you will hurt me.

1072
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: Because I do.

1073
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: You're backing this yet as much as I think it's

1074
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: a bad idea, Listen, you're only a live once. Uh

1075
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: Let's get Anna Rodgers on the field Christmas Eve, Let's

1076
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: just do it. Screw it, screw it. Just put them

1077
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: on the field. See what happens. Maybe maybe magic, but

1078
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: you got to win this game first. And Dolphins fans, I.

1079
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: Really think I am most tempted to bring out the

1080
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: rain maker for the Jets, but I'm not. I'm not

1081
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: going to do that with Sack Wells close to Christmas.

1082
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: I like the Dolphins. I guess if I'm forced to

1083
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: take it, I'd take the Dolphins to win.

1084
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: But man, I don't. I don't feel good about it.

1085
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: All right? Week two? All right, here we go, Here

1086
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: we go, Greg, you're up? Okay? I will take the

1087
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: Giants at Saints. Early.

1088
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: Saints are favored by five and a half. The money

1089
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 4: lines to fifty for the Saints. Again, another one where

1090
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: I'm like really, they're favored by that much against a

1091
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: team that's been playing better than them lately.

1092
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: Defensively, the Giants really have turned it around.

1093
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito gets all the attention, you understandably, but this

1094
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 4: was statistically the worst defense in the league through about

1095
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: seven or eight weeks, which is really surprising. With Dexter

1096
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 4: Lawrence and Kvon and they've been playing much better. They're

1097
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 4: tenth in EPA since Week eleven.

1098
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: He's the highest graded Dexter Lawrence defensive player in the

1099
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: league right now. Yeah, I mean it makes sense to me.

1100
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 4: The two All Pro defensive tackles are pretty clearly Donald

1101
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 4: and Dexter Lawrence that they are the two. Bit Donald's

1102
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: having a great run right now too, but Ojalari, all

1103
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: of them, Deontay Banks are picked. They're playing well, and

1104
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: a defense that's playing well and can throw some blitzes

1105
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: at this offensive line which is is getting confused. Like

1106
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 4: the reason the best theory I think was for Derek

1107
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 4: Carr and Eric McCoy getting into it. Their center was

1108
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: that And I heard it on the Saints Bock Party

1109
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 4: podcast and I think it's right after I watched it,

1110
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: was that. I think Derek Carr just called out the

1111
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 4: wrong middle line but he's been doing that all year

1112
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: where he audibles to the wrong play and I think

1113
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: he called out the wrong middle linebacker before the play.

1114
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: And I think McCoy, you know, got on him for

1115
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: that because sometimes that's the center's job. Something that he's like,

1116
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: you keep switching into plays not knowing what. No, but

1117
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 4: he pointed and saw it and it makes sense. And

1118
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 4: then that that exact player the mic that he thought

1119
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: was it goes right off the middle because basically he's

1120
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: changing the line protection. This has been an issue for

1121
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 4: a car I think changed correctly right and changes it incorrectly,

1122
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: and then.

1123
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: It's middle of where the center gets so mad.

1124
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 5: There could be a lot of reasons, because I think

1125
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 5: it's an extremely frustrated I think the players. I don't

1126
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: really remember an offense where the players are are so

1127
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 5: visibly frustrated when they should be so much better and

1128
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 5: they've had injuries and stuff like that. But I mean,

1129
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: it's just a bad vibe. I think, to do what

1130
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 5: Dan said last week, it's just it's a ViBe's off

1131
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 5: because the Giants have the best vibes in the league,

1132
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: right Because there I want I would have taken this

1133
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 5: game simply because of Tommy DeVito, because I thought, save

1134
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 5: the season for Brian Dable.

1135
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Tommy Cutlets. Yeah, on the road. We'll see

1136
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: what happens.

1137
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: And the Saints have been pretty topsy turvy is the

1138
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 2: defense this year? If Tommy Tommy Cutlets goes down and

1139
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: balls out at the Superdome, we got a sensation and

1140
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: we got the six and eight Giants with the pulse.

1141
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: I take them in a second over the Saints in

1142
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Who are you taking this game? I having

1143
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: a hard time with this one. This is a hard one.

1144
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: I want to take the Saints, but I don't know

1145
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 4: I'm taking Giants twenty. I think I would take the Giants.

1146
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: Well, there's been so much like negativity, not just I

1147
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: guess within the Saints, but around the Saints. The discourse

1148
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: around them that you you would think they're you know,

1149
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: one and twelve right now, but they're not.

1150
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 3: They they they're in, they're tied for first.

1151
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: So the idea that the Saints and they just come

1152
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 2: off a twenty seven to six win, like the idea

1153
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: that the Saints can't beat the Giants at home, like the.

1154
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: Cold they're getting Rashid Shaheed back sounds like and Taysom Hill,

1155
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 5: and I think that's Taysom Hill is quietly we talked

1156
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 5: that I've been having a pretty monster important season for

1157
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 5: them when they've needed someone, and they.

1158
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 3: Really missed them last week.

1159
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 5: I mean one of the reasons that they're like annoyed

1160
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 5: and it's not just a car thing, but like they're

1161
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 5: passing game in general has been such a mess. He's

1162
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 5: had four games where he's finished the contest with one

1163
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 5: hundred less than one hundred and thirty yards passing.

1164
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 3: This isn't even the car from the past.

1165
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: I think it's a tough matchup though for the Saints Stevens,

1166
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: who is just bleeding yardage against the run and right

1167
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: now last week, I mean, Tommy DeVito's running like the

1168
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick forty nine ers offense, just like a bunch

1169
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: of Reid option where he runs for ten yards every

1170
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 4: play in Saquon looks great, so a great.

1171
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 3: I think they're a pretty good running team.

1172
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: They've they've found something on offense and it's mostly the

1173
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 4: run game that matches up well.

1174
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: That such a good year and that yes, I mean

1175
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: that terrible fumble at the end kind of marred another

1176
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: you know, productive.

1177
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: Game for him were great, But what what makes Tommy

1178
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: DeVito more popular? Like among primarily with Saquon, but the

1179
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 5: rest of the guys that like everyone forgot about that

1180
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: fumble because of what happened. It's like he he like

1181
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 5: essentially rescued what would have been like a like a

1182
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 5: terrible like goat scenario for.

1183
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: Good point for I saw Kvon by the way, like

1184
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: right after the game ended, and everybody was like celebrating

1185
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: big time with DeVito going up to him.

1186
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: Kevan unless kind of brushed him off.

1187
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: It's like, really, man, Yeah, go check out the footage,

1188
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Go check out the all twenty two on Kvon after

1189
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: the game.

1190
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: Maybe they had a one on one moment later on

1191
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: that wasn't.

1192
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: Maybe uh maybe Tommy d missed the mic pick up

1193
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: and uh Kvan was on the sideline and he was

1194
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: angry about it.

1195
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's mysterious.

1196
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 5: All right, let's keep move and I mean move, Mark,

1197
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 5: You're up all right picking it early, There's not a

1198
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 5: lot to pick from here. I'm going to go Chiefs

1199
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: at Patriots. An interesting inflection point.

1200
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: For the Chiefs going after the Pats this early like.

1201
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: Well, there's only yeah, I've limited selections unless you want

1202
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 5: me to take the one of the two other lates.

1203
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I think I found out what the shook game

1204
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 4: is and my main strategy is to avoid the Panthers,

1205
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: and I can.

1206
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: You know what it is.

1207
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: Obviously, nobody could watch the Patriots, including Patriots fans right now.

1208
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 3: I can't watch the Chiefs anymore. They're so frustrating. They're

1209
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: very frustrating.

1210
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 5: They're very frustrating, and it's like, you know, they actually

1211
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 5: lead the league with fifty two offensive penalties, so I

1212
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 5: know everything came down to this conversation about like what

1213
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 5: happened at the end of that game against the Bills.

1214
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 5: But they've been hurting themselves all season and it's like,

1215
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: you're they're not gonna I don't know at this point.

1216
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 5: I'm not like looking at a team that's going to

1217
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 5: go figure it out. I especially don't like that I

1218
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 5: Saepa Chaco did not practice again on Thursday with a

1219
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 5: shoulder injury.

1220
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: Donovan Smith did not practice, Like there are some issues here.

1221
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 5: The best part about this is you're playing a Patriots

1222
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 5: offense that is the worst in the league.

1223
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 7: You are.

1224
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 5: A little bit but I like, I think that the

1225
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 5: Chiefs defense hasn't is still you can count on them,

1226
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 5: I do. I mean, I think the Patriots defense has

1227
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 5: been good, So it may not be like it may

1228
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 5: be a close game, but there are a lot of

1229
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 5: issues swirling in New England. We learned this week from

1230
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 5: our friend Tom Currn. It wasn't like a report, but

1231
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: he mentioned on a show that like Robert Kraft, the owner,

1232
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 5: is already decided to fire Bill Belichick after the season.

1233
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 5: And then it came to after that Cults Patriots game overseas.

1234
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 2: Which we which is funny because we had talked about

1235
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: a lot of the reporting and the vibes around the

1236
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: Patriots at the time. Or is like Craft really wanted

1237
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: that game so for them to lay an egg there,

1238
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: that's interesting. We actually have Belichick again, He's being asked

1239
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: all the time now like what's your future with the team,

1240
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: and he's taking on true to form a Belichickian type demeanor.

1241
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: In press conference AFC with this game that the States

1242
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: would playing Cancers City, does it seem like a higher

1243
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: stakes game than Kansasity?

1244
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 4: I mean, he was also asked directly, did you have

1245
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 4: an agreement with Robert Kraft that there will be a

1246
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 4: party of ways at the end of the season directly,

1247
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 4: and that he also said we're on to Kansas City

1248
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 4: for that. So they are they're not afraid to ask

1249
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: tough questions, uh to about Bill Belichick right now, it's

1250
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: it's a little it's a little depressing. And look, Kraft

1251
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: could always change his mind, but that makes sense that

1252
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: that was their thinking at that point, that that they

1253
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 4: had already kind of made their decision and that they're

1254
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: just gonna play out the string year and they're not

1255
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: going to fire him in the middle of the season.

1256
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

1257
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: Crazy, really crazy, And you know what else is crazy

1258
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: like and I know Patrick Hoolmes, these guys get asked

1259
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: questions and then they respond and then you have to

1260
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: be able to all, right, is this an actual feeling

1261
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: he has or he's just you know, the media is

1262
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: taking turning into a bigger story. You know, he's talking

1263
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: about Kadarius Tony about what he needs to do after

1264
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: his latest major foul up lining up off sides and everything,

1265
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: and the headline out there was, you know, a message

1266
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: to Kadarius Tony just be you. You know, basically the

1267
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: fact that the Kansas City Chiefs have a wide receiver

1268
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: that is this ineffective and mistake prone. They have no

1269
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: choice but to kind of keep him in the mix

1270
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: because they don't have anybody. And I know his role

1271
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: has lessened, but the desperation around the Chiefs, I think

1272
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: it's notable. They kind of need Tony and everyone else

1273
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: to contribute to somehow get this thing back on track.

1274
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1275
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 4: They were featuring him early in that game. He made

1276
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 4: a couple of plays, he had a big drop.

1277
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: He's talented. They just he won the Super Bowl basically

1278
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: last year. They just don't have It's not like they're

1279
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: magic answers.

1280
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 4: They have the players that they have, and some of

1281
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: them need to step up, like especially when Pacheck go's out.

1282
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: I think this matchup is a little tricky for them

1283
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 4: because the Patriots have an elite run defense. They're the

1284
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 4: best run defense in the league for about three months.

1285
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 4: They're not very good stopping the pass, which is so

1286
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 4: bizarre that that would match up well with the Chiefs.

1287
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: I tend to think that Mahomes will find a way

1288
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 4: to pick them apart. It's not a great secondary, and

1289
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: that they'll do enough. But the Patriots defense will generally

1290
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: make you throw the ball because they're gonna stop you running.

1291
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: And they generally give up big play.

1292
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 4: So maybe this is a chance for Patrick Mahomes to

1293
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 4: pass Bailey Zappi in touchdowns of over twenty yards this season,

1294
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: because right now they're tied.

1295
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: They each have one. I mean, they each have won.

1296
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: But the Mahomes is steep ball stats are ridiculous.

1297
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 4: They cannot throw the ball deep. The Chiefs are favored

1298
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 4: by seven appts interests. I saw that number was bigger

1299
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 4: earlier in the week, so people are actually going towards

1300
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 4: the the money lines minus three seventy five for the Chiefs.

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1302
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: It wouldn't surprise me if the if the Patriots cover

1303
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 4: here at least, I don't think they'll win, but it

1304
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me if it's it's a little dicey. If

1305
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 4: the Chiefs do not move Heaven and Earth this march

1306
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: in April and may to help Patrick Mahomes, that is

1307
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: malpractice by Beach and company.

1308
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 5: I mean, his his cap number becomes like they're they're

1309
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 5: becoming one of those teams with some top heavy.

1310
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: They should they should just where it's like a year

1311
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: and then just push it back into the twenty seventies.

1312
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: They will, they will renegotiate. It's kind of the NFL

1313
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: equivalent of it. All right, Mark hit another one.

1314
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: Uh, Houston and Tennessee. Uh, this would have been I

1315
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 5: get this. This matchup for Houston is is is not

1316
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 5: It's not the team they were.

1317
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: Like C J.

1318
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 5: Stroud is still in concussion protocol. I would be at

1319
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 5: this point very surprised if he. If he plays, they

1320
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 5: Nico Collins is hurt. Tank Dell is out for.

1321
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 3: The col This is a status out of practice.

1322
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 5: So possible, but like he's not gonna be one hundred percent.

1323
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 5: Dalton Schultz has banked up their tackle. Titus Howard has

1324
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: banged up Jarremie Tunzel did not practice. Will Anderson did

1325
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 5: not practice on Wednesday. So this is your team and

1326
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 5: you're playing a Tennessee squad that like in Tennessee that's

1327
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 5: they've been very good at home. Will Levis is totally watchable. Uh.

1328
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: You know, Derrick Henry is still Derrick Henry.

1329
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 5: And so I don't like the spot for Houston that's

1330
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: sitting there in that seven and six world trying to

1331
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 5: hang on and get by life without their star Young quarterback.

1332
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 5: I think one little note to this game. This feels

1333
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 5: absurd to me by the Titans. It's kind of it's delicious,

1334
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 5: it's delicious, but it's it's kind of like I'm surprised

1335
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 5: the NFL like greenlit this. Of course, the Tennessee Titans

1336
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 5: were the Houston Oilers and mood in the mid nineties. Yes,

1337
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 5: I think at were at the age where some younger

1338
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 5: people don't know that like that with some of these

1339
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 5: moves that happened in the nineties, they just don't know.

1340
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 5: But like they you know, the classic Houston Oilers uniforms.

1341
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 5: The Titans were greenlit to wear them a couple times

1342
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 5: this year, and they did earlier in the season. And

1343
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 5: they're now going to go into here they're going to

1344
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 5: host Houston, who are the Texans and started as their

1345
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 5: own franchise. I get that, but like wearing their Oilers' uniforms,

1346
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 5: it's a disgrace this. Houston, remember asked the University of

1347
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 5: Houston to not wear those essentially same so they do care.

1348
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 5: No matter what they say, they do care about those uniforms.

1349
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 5: Being warned by someone else and your opponent is wearing

1350
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 5: them against you on the road, I think who loses.

1351
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: Who loses the fans, The fans that have been around

1352
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: and been following Houston Professional Football from the you know,

1353
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: love you Blue days that fell in love with football

1354
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: with those teams. Now they have to be against the

1355
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: team wearing it. That's like, imagine that happened with the Browns.

1356
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: Mark how disgusted and furious you'd be. And I am

1357
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: totally with you. That is absolutely you don't do anything

1358
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: to antagonize fans that lost their team because of business

1359
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: decisions by ownership.

1360
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 3: That's disgraceful.

1361
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's the same ownership. I know, Bud Adams

1362
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: is dead, but his daughter, Amy Adams Strunk, who's very

1363
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 4: well respected around the league and has certainly had a

1364
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 4: different tone than her her father, who I think people

1365
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 4: had more mixed feelings about.

1366
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: But she did this.

1367
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 4: You know, it's ultimately this is what do you mean? Yeah,

1368
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 4: but here's what I'm getting to. It's like, this is

1369
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 4: ultimately an ownership decision.

1370
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, she knows how much it's disgraceful.

1371
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeahs say one who cares like she's maybe respected, But

1372
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: like that's I'm just prefacing it to getting to that

1373
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 5: that like she knows how much Houston hates her father

1374
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 5: and she's sticking it to them.

1375
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 4: Ultimately, there is part of I mean, that's the truth, Greg.

1376
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 4: That is as petty as a guest.

1377
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: So the NFL just you think they said, hey, great

1378
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: idea vengeful.

1379
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 4: I think the bigger thing is they want to wear

1380
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 4: the uniform and all that and stuff, but they know

1381
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: what they're doing doing it against the Texans. So it's

1382
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 4: a little bit of sticking it to him, don't you think.

1383
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, like, you're not sticking it to

1384
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: the players, of the coaching staff, of the tech and

1385
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: just sticking it to the fans, the fans who have

1386
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: been loyal to the brand of the NFL.

1387
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: It's been uh it it can't happen. It's quite a move.

1388
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: Can't happen? It is it is, It is quite a move.

1389
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: I hate this game for the Texans for everything you

1390
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: just said, Mark. I think the Texans are in a

1391
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: lot of trouble. They were without a pulse against the Jets,

1392
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: and I know they were in the rain, and they were,

1393
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, dealing with injuries happening during the game, including

1394
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: to Stroud and Collins going out in the first drive.

1395
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: But I don't see them scoring points.

1396
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 5: I don't like Davis Mills, but he's got a lot

1397
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 5: of experience, that's all. It's you're not thrown in one

1398
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 5: of these backups.

1399
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: We've never heard as backup who's thrown to. Even C. J.

1400
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: Stroud couldn't move the ball with the cast of characters

1401
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: that they had last week.

1402
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 4: Well, he's going up against one of the worst pass

1403
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 4: defenses in the league, although they're coming off a game

1404
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 4: where they didn't well against under But yes, he's throwing

1405
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 4: to Noah Brown, Xavier hud no chance, John Metchi, maybe

1406
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 4: Robert Woods.

1407
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: It's tough.

1408
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: And the Texans linebackers, the word is out how much

1409
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 4: you can just pick on them?

1410
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: Uh in coverage.

1411
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: I did like how much they're using Taj Spears and

1412
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 4: Henry together.

1413
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: I mean Spears.

1414
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: They have like three players on offense, Spears, Henry and Hopkins,

1415
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 4: and they've they're leaning into it like Spears now leads

1416
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 4: all rookies in yards from scrimmage. He is a really

1417
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 4: good player there. They can be a good running too.

1418
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 4: I give the Texans a chance here, but the Titans

1419
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 4: are favored by three. That's not surprising to me. And

1420
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 4: the money lines minus. I do like the Titans like

1421
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 4: you guys.

1422
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we'll finish

1423
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: out the draft and welcome back. It is the week

1424
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: fifteen preview show in bulk. If you're just joining us,

1425
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: it'd be weird podcast. But we are wrapping up the draft,

1426
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: and up next is Greg Rosenthal. I need a late

1427
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: game here, Okay, And what did I say I'm taking?

1428
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: I guess I'll take Commanders Rams. Rams favored Commandos by

1429
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: six and a half. I kind of am regretting this

1430
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: choice just because of strategy purposes.

1431
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 3: It's too late. The money lines minus three or five.

1432
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: How about the Rams being like heavy favorites here in

1433
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: uh week fifteen. I mean Matt Stafford could throw for

1434
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: four hundred yards against the second Yeah, that is the thought.

1435
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1436
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 4: It is like, I know they've played really well lately,

1437
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 4: but I still think they're a team that's overachieving defensively.

1438
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 4: Washington has the extra rest, they have talent, They're yeah,

1439
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: they're they're capable. I think of of making this a

1440
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 4: good game, I certainly would still best stop with Greg Rosenthal,

1441
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 4: would it be?

1442
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: Although you know to be you know who's got the

1443
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: rest Extra. I mean just gonna We're gonna get it anyways,

1444
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, might as well Brandon, yea, make some money.

1445
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 4: Put it in a little a little window like analytics

1446
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 4: on the little window rest this year, how they're doing

1447
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 4: versus the spread.

1448
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: And save it for the next episode of Rest Stop. Yeah,

1449
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: there you go.

1450
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll ask uh Sam schwartz Stein tonight on the

1451
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 4: Thursday night recap. By the way, he's uh, you know,

1452
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 4: the the guy who pops up in the corner if

1453
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 4: you're watching Prime Vision, which is on in my house.

1454
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: That's Sam and he's gonna be a person'll be at

1455
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 3: the game.

1456
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: The Rams defense, though, has been as good a coaching

1457
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 4: job to me as as the offense. And the offense

1458
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 4: has got because just because of the guys that they're

1459
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: doing with, they play with their hair on fire. Michael

1460
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 4: Hoyt playing well lately, but Kobe Turner and Aaron Donald.

1461
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 4: I noticed this this week really surprised me. Our top

1462
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 4: two in the league in terms of pass rush win

1463
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 4: rate from defensive tackles. Yeah, Aaron Donald, you would expect that.

1464
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 4: And Aaron Donald's on a heater, by the way. He

1465
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: is back to being like defensive player of the year

1466
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 4: type Aaron Donald the last five or six weeks.

1467
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he was good all year, but he's back

1468
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: on fire.

1469
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 4: And Kobe Turner's a mid round rookie who hasn't got

1470
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 4: a lot of heat here, and so that they're getting

1471
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 4: good contribution with Ernest Jones at linebacker who had that

1472
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 4: big Super Bowl performance a couple of years ago, is

1473
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 4: playing really well of them, and they should have enough,

1474
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 4: you would think, to force a few commanders' mistakes and

1475
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 4: do well offense.

1476
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 5: Well, and it's you know, it's been a little bit

1477
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 5: better on the how we'll get sacked eight times a

1478
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 5: game front, but he's still's been taken down more than

1479
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 5: any quarterback in the league.

1480
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 3: Leads the league in pass attempts too.

1481
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 5: I mean, they're kind of just putting a lot on him,

1482
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 5: and so their offense has been like I mean, you

1483
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 5: can think about the way they life.

1484
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 4: The eight sacks, So he's eighteen away from David Carr,

1485
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 4: by the way for the ull time records.

1486
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 3: That's stretch.

1487
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 5: I don't he's got a chance that's a game because

1488
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 5: they haven't had some of the worst games have been

1489
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 5: were cases slow down yet, Yeah, but yeah.

1490
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: It's butter knifing it a little bit. But uh sneaky

1491
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: total collapse by the Commanders. They've won one game, uh

1492
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: in the past two months.

1493
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 5: Well, they trade away two of their defensive centerpieces, like

1494
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 5: they fired their defensive coordinator. Everyone knows the coaching staff's

1495
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 5: getting fired. Like there's a human element where these people

1496
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 5: have been in the building for a month listening to

1497
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 5: these coaches who are walking dead man at this point,

1498
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 5: like in.

1499
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 3: The defense before trading them.

1500
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 4: Whatever they were trying to do on defense, and this

1501
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: was a team that envisioned being defense first. It clearly

1502
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 4: wasn't working. It's not going to work. So this is

1503
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 4: a bad matchup. And it's why I told a friend

1504
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 4: who lost their both their quarterbacks for fantasy and Stafford

1505
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: was somehow available?

1506
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: Are you kid?

1507
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 4: I was like, I'd start Stafford in fantasy over almost

1508
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 4: any quarterback in the league this week.

1509
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: What's going on in that line?

1510
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: I have a single QB league out of my life.

1511
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: It's come on, it's bad. That's the Stafford does not

1512
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: get left on a bench or in the free agency.

1513
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: It's a little weird.

1514
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 5: Three straight games he's been whipping touchdown passes left and right.

1515
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 3: I mean, what was that guy in the league with

1516
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: like a bunch of toddlers. It's maybe.

1517
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan has been running his his son's team and

1518
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 4: his no choice. You know, he's happy to be on

1519
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 4: a wind streak and sneak into the playoffs.

1520
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: Back little kids.

1521
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on my like, forget about the Browns. I'm

1522
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 2: on my fifth quarterback in that league. It's just been

1523
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 2: a heroic effort. Heroic you're the general manager essentially.

1524
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fallen to me.

1525
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: The kids weren't ready for fantasy football yet we brought

1526
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: him in to give him a shot.

1527
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 3: They check in, they asked, did we win? Yeah? Protect

1528
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 3: them from the bad news.

1529
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: You know, you just but when four hb's going, I are,

1530
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: they're not coming through the waiver wire.

1531
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: So Dad has to come in to save the league.

1532
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: I mean this back now, it is integrity. Yeah, I agree.

1533
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: I don't like it when there's dead teams.

1534
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 2: All right, And did we talk about Kyan Williams Because

1535
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: we should because he's averaging one hundred and ten yards

1536
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: from scrimmage this season. That's the third most in the NFL.

1537
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 2: That's like, that's in the Christ McCaffrey Tyree kill zone.

1538
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 4: That's a fantasy league winner. Any Tyron Williams should be

1539
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 4: doing well.

1540
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 3: Did you know that?

1541
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: Back in twenty eighteen, Todd Gurley averaged one hundred and

1542
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: thirty yards per scrimmage for an entire season. Todd Gurley

1543
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: was so effing good and then it just disappeared. But

1544
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 2: I'll remember Todd Gurley as like sneaky one of the

1545
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: best running backs of the last twenty years for what

1546
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: three years?

1547
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 5: One of those quarterback less running backs with like the

1548
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 5: brilliant window was just short because of injury, like you

1549
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 5: know Terrell Davis had.

1550
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: Then he got in the Hall.

1551
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 5: I think Terrell but an outlier, like like he should

1552
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 5: have been because of who he was, but an outlier type.

1553
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 4: He's a TV Hall of Famer, but he not like

1554
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 4: he will not go to the Hall of Fame anyway.

1555
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 4: He didn't have quite the stretch either, by anything. Terrell

1556
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 4: Davis did TV in terms of like great a five

1557
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 4: year stretch. Yeah, anything else got paid too, got that

1558
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:26,919
Speaker 4: got that big contract.

1559
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rams were like what we should have done that?

1560
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'll close it out now, let's start with

1561
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: I actually liked this game, so I'm happy to get

1562
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: it here.

1563
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: The the Niners at Arizona, where my regret was I

1564
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 3: would have rather.

1565
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was a game that I was circling

1566
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: maybe earlier, but it all kind of worked out. So

1567
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: I just think the Niners are the opposite of the

1568
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs right now. They are a team I love to watch.

1569
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 2: They're just so fun, especially on offense obviously, and uh

1570
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 2: and and Deebo Samuel is on one of He's had

1571
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 2: heaters throughout his career, that is, you know, starting to

1572
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: flirt with the Hall of Fame career at this point

1573
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: two more years of this.

1574
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 3: I feel like all these Niners players are Yeah.

1575
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 2: And if he scored three touchdowns two weeks ago, he

1576
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: added two more and nearly a third last week. And

1577
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: when he is humming and doing his thing, they are

1578
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: absolutely impossible because you have McCaffrey and you have Ayuke

1579
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: doing his thing, and Kittle Pepper and Kittle with a

1580
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 2: big play every now and then, and it's just like

1581
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: Purty seeing it all and in complete command of the offense.

1582
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: It's very bad news obviously for the Arizona Cardinals.

1583
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: I would say the only thing, if I'm speaking of

1584
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: Fantasy forty nine ers might be so far ahead of

1585
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 2: this game at halftime.

1586
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: That they pull the reins back. That's what I now. Wow.

1587
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: The reason why I like the game is because at

1588
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 2: least now Kyler's in the mix, and you have a

1589
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: chance here is are we heading to rest stop?

1590
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 3: Greg should we had to rest up? Said to rest up?

1591
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: The Cardinals do have an extra week off here coming out.

1592
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 3: Do you think that makes a difference here?

1593
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 4: They are at home, They're twelve and a half point

1594
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 4: underdogs at home. The forty nine Ers are minus eight

1595
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 4: to fifty to win the game.

1596
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: That feels fair.

1597
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 4: The first time these teams played, it was a weird game.

1598
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 4: I remember it was close going into the fourth quarter,

1599
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 4: but it never really felt close because it like the

1600
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 4: forty nine ers had a huge lead. It's a Kyler

1601
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 4: heat check. I don't rest yeah, but I don't think

1602
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 4: it'll be close. But it is a Kyler heat check

1603
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 4: because I really felt like he was coming into his

1604
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 4: own before the bye, really impressing in a way that

1605
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 4: was a little different than he had been under Cliff Kingsbury.

1606
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: And this is an ultimate heat check. If he can

1607
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 4: just play well in this game, you're like, okay again.

1608
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 4: Another reason that he will be around there next year,

1609
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 4: not traded.

1610
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 5: I mean, and yet the Niners defense is allowing fewer

1611
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 5: points than any team of the league, and it looks

1612
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 5: like it. It's like it's almost like they're so good

1613
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 5: all over the place that it's like we talk about perty,

1614
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 5: we talk about christ McCaffrey has more yards against NFC

1615
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 5: his own division, against NFC West teams than any player

1616
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 5: against their own division going back to nineteen fifty. So

1617
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 5: it's like it starts right there and then you just

1618
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 5: dole it out. Party is nine point nine passing yards

1619
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 5: per attempt, or the most in a single season all time.

1620
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 5: The next closest player right now is one point three

1621
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 5: eight yards per attempt, And it's like this is not

1622
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 5: even when it's like you take away the yards after

1623
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 5: the catch, Like he's not who people thought he was

1624
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 5: a month ago, and we're not gonna we already all

1625
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 5: understand that, and he's right where he should be in

1626
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 5: the MVP race. But he's been nearly perfect. And like,

1627
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 5: this is not a team that under Shanahan has like

1628
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 5: let down games. I feel like other teams you worry

1629
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,919
Speaker 5: about a trap, Like I'm not worried about going to Arizona,

1630
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 5: where half that fan base sold their tickets to Niners fans.

1631
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: Anyways, Yeah, they're at a level I think right now offensively,

1632
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: and we saw it last week where they don't even

1633
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: have to bring their A game because their B game

1634
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: is enough to blow out teams.

1635
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: So that is gonna be.

1636
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 2: It's a show every week and uh, the only question

1637
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: is can they stay healthy down the stretch and can

1638
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan exercise demons.

1639
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 3: It's a great subplot and in the MVP weeks he

1640
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 3: wouldn't choose.

1641
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: He was put in a tough spot having to choose

1642
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 4: between McCaffrey and of course you don't say it.

1643
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you don't say it.

1644
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: I think pretty pretty's different than he I think has

1645
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: been the first twenty twenty five games in his career

1646
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 4: because he he knows better when to take chances. I

1647
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 4: think here he got a very lucky I think with

1648
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 4: turnover luck for a while and then he got then

1649
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 4: it started hitting him, and I think he's been much

1650
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 4: more careful with the ball that that improv play he

1651
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 4: had to ayuke like, he's known exactly when to take

1652
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 4: a chance and he's hit it.

1653
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 3: But he has he's been much safer and that's really

1654
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 3: helped the final game.

1655
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: No surprise here the Atlanta Falcons uh are giving three

1656
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: points to the Carolina Panthers an over under of thirty

1657
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: for oh, who's on this one, Adam? I mean Mark

1658
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 2: Schlereth and Christina Pink on the sideline. I rather not

1659
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: really focus on the Panthers at all because it just

1660
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 2: makes me sad. And they are looking to restart the

1661
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: brain trust and hope to get Bryce Young on track

1662
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: for next year, and hopefully Bryce Young makes it through

1663
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,440
Speaker 2: the season healthy and has a clear path in the offseason.

1664
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: The Falcons are coming off another disappointing loss. They just

1665
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: cannot sustain any momentum. I think it should be noted

1666
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: Mark that Desmond Ridder has been better since returning from

1667
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: the bench. It was the right move in retrospect to

1668
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith's credit, and I've been as hard on Arthur

1669
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: Smith as anybody to go back to rinter because he

1670
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: does have the ability and to make plays. He also

1671
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: has the ability and the incredible consistency to make a

1672
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: bad play that either disallows the team from putting a

1673
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: team away or outright costs them game. So you kind

1674
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 2: of know in some ways he is consistent because you

1675
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get. You're gonna get some impact

1676
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: plays with his legs and with his arm, and he's

1677
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: gonna kill you with the mistake or two.

1678
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: By the end of the fourth quarters.

1679
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 5: I think one thing though, that is really promising about

1680
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 5: last week is and in general, like Drake London, who

1681
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 5: you know a lot of people arguing that he vanished

1682
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 5: for periods of time that all their star players are

1683
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 5: vanishing through the year. London's coming off the game where

1684
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 5: he had ten receptions for one hundred and seventy two

1685
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 5: yards to your point, Rader had to be back three

1686
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty and so yes, it's kind of like

1687
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 5: you see it at times. I feel like they just

1688
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 5: come and go as an offense, but you are playing

1689
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 5: a Panther's run defense that is literally last in the

1690
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 5: league in EPA. It's like, I think you could just

1691
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 5: go do your thing. You can go do your thing

1692
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 5: and like this this these guys played in Week one

1693
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 5: and you know you don't you don't have any concern

1694
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 5: about Falcons on defense against this offense that is a

1695
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 5: non starter. Jesse Bates had two picks in this in

1696
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 5: the opener and I guess it's kind of like a

1697
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 5: litmus test of like, will you see Jesse Bates differently

1698
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 5: this time?

1699
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 3: If you're Brice Young, are you gonna see anything? Because

1700
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

1701
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 5: I just feel like it's getting worse and so I

1702
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 5: can't end fast enough for the pan. So if you're

1703
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 5: the Falcons and you don't take care of business here,

1704
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 5: it's like, I think we're all allowed to not believe

1705
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 5: in you one iota.

1706
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's the money line's one minus one sixty two,

1707
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 4: which feels like value. Because the team that loses to

1708
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 4: Carolina loses the division. Your season's over. I just I

1709
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 4: declare it. And if any of them to declare, any

1710
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 4: of those NFC South teams lose to Carolina, they're not

1711
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 4: They're just not going to win the division. I don't

1712
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 4: think the Falcons would do such such a thing, But

1713
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 4: it is Arthur Smith year three, the end of year three,

1714
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 4: and it's like we should be seeing what the vision

1715
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 4: is all come together, and I kind of see it.

1716
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of a vision, I see a vision, a vision

1717
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: of beauty and grace in the studio comes la Keisha Wesley.

1718
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 3: It is perfect.

1719
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 4: You you want to be the person that comes on

1720
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 4: after the Panthers Falcons preview.

1721
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: Yes, everything seems amazing.

1722
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 8: What's I don't think Grace tripping?

1723
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: It's okay, what's up?

1724
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 6: Could It's always so funny to be back in the

1725
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 6: office and seeing everybody.

1726
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 8: It's like taking a grand tour.

1727
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 3: Yes, and got you. And Lakeisha is staying with the

1728
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 3: hands of his family this week. Nice. Uh, and that's

1729
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 3: always a treat. And what part of that? I've been

1730
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: to your house there she has privacy down by the

1731
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 3: pool area.

1732
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, that's beautiful, like a bachelorette pad.

1733
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: It is, it is, And uh, we're gonna have we

1734
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: have a nice gathering plan for tomorrow to celebrate both

1735
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: the holidays and Lakeisha.

1736
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 3: I love it, love wing. Keisha's here.

1737
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,879
Speaker 8: I still can't believe I missed you all yesterday.

1738
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 6: Man, just running around crazy. I'm like, I'm looking here

1739
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 6: and it's like a ghost town. I'm like, wait a minute,

1740
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 6: where did everybody go?

1741
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 3: I miss Colleen?

1742
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 8: Like what's going on?

1743
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Dan, Lake Yeah, birth of Jesus, Christmas family,

1744
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 4: that's all fine. Yeah, Keisha coming to town. It's proper

1745
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 4: ority of celebrations. This is a family right here.

1746
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 6: Lincoln's not happy though He's been on's I've been talking

1747
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 6: about coming out to California again, and then we had

1748
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 6: to break it down to him that had to come

1749
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 6: out here for work.

1750
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 2: Leisha showed my son to the picture of Link and

1751
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: Harrison's like, he's so much bigger now.

1752
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 5: He is really following on Instagram, Like, but he does

1753
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:15,959
Speaker 5: he still have a Spider Man like obsession.

1754
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 8: I don't know when that's going to end, and I'm

1755
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 8: all for it.

1756
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: I love it. Good one.

1757
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 6: I'm bringing him out in February, though, I'm going to

1758
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 6: bring him out around for Chris's birthday so you guys

1759
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 6: can see, like how big he is. There's actually even

1760
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 6: this picture that I wanted to show you guys that

1761
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 6: we took and look how much he like looks like him.

1762
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 3: Oh my god. We'll put this up on the YouTube

1763
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 3: and on the fast channels. That is adorable, a little

1764
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 3: like Vans and stuff. I love it.

1765
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 2: Link is the miracle, uh after we lost Chris that

1766
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: you know, he Chris is in our life forever because

1767
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: Link is in our life forever. And of course Lakeisha

1768
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: and Keish, you are someone who takes Link to Cincinnati, Yes,

1769
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: often to keep link and yourself connected to the Westling family.

1770
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 3: Yes, we we do have a lock.

1771
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: That was a Saturday game lock so didn't fit into

1772
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 2: this show, but we need to get it in the show.

1773
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 3: We have Saturday previews on our Wednesday show if you

1774
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 3: missed it. Yes, so here is the zoo Keeper, also

1775
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 3: known as Nick Wessel.

1776
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 7: Hey, Heroes, I guess I got what was coming to

1777
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 7: me last week. I was arrogant and making fun of

1778
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 7: the Jets, and then they went and blew out the Texans.

1779
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 7: Didn't really see that one coming. I don't know that

1780
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 7: anyone really did. Sometimes that's the way it goes. The

1781
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 7: most disappointing part is now Number Greg has a three

1782
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 7: game lead with what hate to play. No way anyone's

1783
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 7: gonna come back and beat him. He's got it sewn up.

1784
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 7: And I think that's disappointing for the listeners because they

1785
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 7: all hate when he wins because he's boring and doesn't

1786
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 7: have any fun, and that's what the show should be

1787
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 7: all about.

1788
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 3: This is fun. This week, the Bangles.

1789
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 7: Over the moribund team of atn I went three to

1790
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 7: nothing on a last minute field goal. Last he dubs

1791
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 7: a dub against the Terrible team. What is going on

1792
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 7: with them?

1793
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1794
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 7: The Bengals. They look good the last couple of weeks.

1795
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 7: We'll see if the offense can keep it rolling. But

1796
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 7: the key's going to be hand this lou Ana Romo.

1797
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 7: Defense the music this week at the end of the

1798
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 7: year and carry them into the playoffs. They got a

1799
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 7: tough road, but they can win three out of four.

1800
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 7: Lock it up this week and you see what happens.

1801
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 5: Nowt happen to see him crack a smile about two

1802
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 5: minutes into that, because that was here.

1803
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 3: Can we remind the time limits next time?

1804
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 4: I was having so much fun listening to that fun lock.

1805
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 4: I fell asleep there for a minute.

1806
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 3: I think, you know what I think happened with the

1807
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: zoo keeper.

1808
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 2: That was a jarring lock reversal on him, and I

1809
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: think it took some of his swagger out.

1810
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 3: So he needs Cincinnati and the Bengals to lift him out.

1811
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: When I made the city, I actually had to like check.

1812
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: I was like one twenty one, did they double? I

1813
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 3: had to make sure that I did. He's in a place.

1814
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: He's obviously in a place.

1815
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 2: Nick who is you know, obviously charismatic man and always

1816
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: loved seeing Nick and Chris together.

1817
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 3: Because they would chop it up and argue and have

1818
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 3: a good time.

1819
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: One of my favorite moments from the wedding weekend in

1820
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: Tybee was being there at I think it was Wayne

1821
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: and Rosy's and they're tossing corn hole, they're tossing bags

1822
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: on the morning of the wedding, and both of them

1823
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: not a care in the world, kind of looking more

1824
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: or less exactly exactly like each other's, same body language,

1825
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: and just talking like merciless to each other during the

1826
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: entire game. And so having Nick part of the show

1827
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: another way to keep Chris.

1828
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 6: All the brothers are like that too. It's so crazy.

1829
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know how their parents don't that.

1830
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 4: With that, but none of them look and sound as

1831
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 4: much like And there are actual twins too, so it

1832
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 4: like there's.

1833
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 3: Just spilled water for the second time.

1834
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 6: They each have like a little like anytime like I

1835
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 6: look at them, there's like it's either I see Chris

1836
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 6: in the eyes or I see Chris and like the smile.

1837
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 6: Like anytime I'm around any of them, I look and

1838
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 6: there's like I always see something. It's just like, okay,

1839
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 6: I see.

1840
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Chris in there, so although you know, Lakeisha like streamlined.

1841
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: Chris turned him into like essentially a.

1842
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: Ball male model, right. Him and Nick were similar.

1843
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 4: Imagine Nick, but my god, yeah, gone through a Wes.

1844
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 3: You know what you did with Wes the fashion makeover?

1845
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 3: Just the look he was bad. He was humming.

1846
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 8: It's just putting a little effort, that's all.

1847
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 3: I mean. It's hard.

1848
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 5: Greg's acknowledged that his significant other bought ninety eight percent

1849
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 5: of his wardrobe too, So it's not that I think.

1850
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 4: It's a pretty common thing that happens with very common

1851
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 4: with the significant others.

1852
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 8: Nice he took over on his own. Like I was shocked.

1853
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 8: I just he like flew like a like a butterfly

1854
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 8: into own my compashion world.

1855
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: I was like, go off, Kish anything else you want

1856
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 3: to add.

1857
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 6: I got to do something cool last weekend and I

1858
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 6: got to be a key speaker for the American Cancer

1859
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 6: Society in Saint Louis. There was an event called the

1860
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 6: Coaches Versus Cancer, and so I got to share my

1861
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 6: story and it just it was good, Like you know,

1862
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 6: especially some people that you know didn't.

1863
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 8: Listen to the podcast.

1864
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 6: I got to like, you know, reminisce on the past

1865
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 6: and stuff and It was pretty powerful just making sure

1866
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 6: people listen to their bodies and you know, go to

1867
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 6: the doctor and get things checked out, because it's a

1868
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 6: huge difference if you catch cancer Early's great.

1869
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: That's great important advice. And also because you've been working

1870
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: on it in my home. Uh, well, he's your works

1871
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: for the NFL.

1872
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 3: What are you working on? Where do people see the

1873
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: stuff that you're working on?

1874
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 6: Yes, I produced the series NFL Generations, So basically it's

1875
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 6: like NFL Legend with the current player. They'll sit down

1876
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 6: and like go over each other like highlights and talk

1877
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 6: about how they like different back in the day versus now.

1878
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 6: And that has been so much f on this season.

1879
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 6: I just finished a piece with John Randall and Miles Garrett.

1880
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 6: It's on NFL Plus and it's just been a lot

1881
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 6: of fun.

1882
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 3: It's like a good pluck and uh, we look forward

1883
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 3: to the Bernie Cozar Josh Allen episode.

1884
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 2: And you had the great point keish that, Uh because

1885
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 2: I heard John Randall in in the You're sitting at

1886
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: the dining room table working and you made the point

1887
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 2: that like this job like connects to Wes too, because

1888
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: he's such an NFL historian and and he would have

1889
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 2: gotten a kick out of you working on projects like that.

1890
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought about that one time. It's like learning

1891
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 6: all this like history, and it's just like man. Somehow

1892
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 6: it feels like Wes is like kind of like talking

1893
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 6: through me through work and stuff.

1894
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 3: Awesome.

1895
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 8: John Randall is basically my uncle now just f y.

1896
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to become friends with these guys. Did

1897
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 3: He can be like a ride from the airport level.

1898
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 2: All right, Keish, can't wait for this weekend and and

1899
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 2: great times and always better when you're around.

1900
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 8: I love you guys.

1901
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 3: You all right?

1902
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: And that is it for Around the NFL the Week

1903
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: fifteen preview, TNF recap tonight. Check that out NFL plus Vocal,

1904
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 2: Keisch's project and our show also there, and then we'll

1905
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: see a flagship show Sunday night.

1906
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: Eat the Call.