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Speaker 7: It is Monday, October twenty third, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 7: Episode number fifty four. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 7: The Break. We'll live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 7: the Star. We're into our mashup week, our mashup shows.

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Speaker 7: This is the second of two. We've got Nick Harris,

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Speaker 7: We've got Danny McCrae. Danny's from Players Lounge and Nick

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Speaker 7: is from Talking Cowboys, And so we're gonna spend a

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Speaker 7: little time today continuing our conversation from last week. Last

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Speaker 7: week we did do our tat trimester first trimester review,

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Speaker 7: and I had a lot of questions for you guys.

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Speaker 7: They were going to continue that, but a lot of

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Speaker 7: our questions are going to be filling the blank. So

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna let you guys just kind of riff a

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Speaker 7: little bit. I got some questions for you before we

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Speaker 7: get into that, though, I do want to talk a

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Speaker 7: little bit about some of the things we saw this

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Speaker 7: last weekend. I'm assuming you guys watched a lot of

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Speaker 7: NFL football, as we all do. We're all sports fans

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Speaker 7: first and foremost so, and I see that little smile.

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Speaker 7: We actually we're going on there. We were talking college football.

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Speaker 7: Danny still thinks his team has a shot.

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Speaker 4: They do not. They are absolutely done.

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Speaker 2: Texas, on the other hand, is still in the MIDX.

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Speaker 3: Listen, two thousand and seven, LSU lost two games. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we were going into we won the SEC championship, and

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Speaker 3: I think West Virginia.

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Speaker 4: It was three or four.

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Speaker 3: Teams that still in today's a BCS.

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Speaker 4: But they all lost.

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Speaker 3: They all lost, and then that's what got us in

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Speaker 3: there as a two loss team. But it was like

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Speaker 3: every team that just needed to win to get in,

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Speaker 3: they all ended up losing.

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Speaker 8: Matt Flynn was like my first college football.

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Speaker 4: Herot and we're going there and we win it.

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Speaker 2: So tell yourself what you need to.

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Speaker 4: I have to. I have to.

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Speaker 8: We're the right shirt today though we didn't even bring

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Speaker 8: it back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we love the burd and Orange. Keep that going.

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Speaker 7: And of course, yeahs the night game seven, we playing

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Speaker 7: the Rangers. You're Rangers, so this should be fun.

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Speaker 8: We'll see how this this plays out.

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Speaker 3: Like, I actually watched the baseball game more than I

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Speaker 3: watched the Miami versus Philly game too.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm at and I'm not a baseball like I

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Speaker 7: used to. When I was a kid. I was a

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Speaker 7: huge baseball fan and growing up collected baseball cards. I

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Speaker 7: haven't really followed it since then. But I've been watching

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Speaker 7: this series. I've watched every game of this series start

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Speaker 7: to finish. I'm like, you know, Baseball's interesting again.

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Speaker 2: I love the clock, the pitch clock, like I.

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Speaker 7: Think it moves the game little bit, which has always

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Speaker 7: been one of my big pet peeves about baseball.

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Speaker 2: But man, I've been into this series.

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Speaker 4: No, it's been fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: I went to the game here, game four, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that was the first Astros games that I had been to.

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Speaker 3: I remember on the show new He's asking me like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I don't know anything about baseball,

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Speaker 3: and but when it comes on, just like LSU Baseball,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm glued to the seat watching it, like

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Speaker 8: So it's been exciting now LSU Baseball, Alex Fox, I've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they do it right for a lot of sports.

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Speaker 4: They get sports.

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Speaker 2: They really do get sports. I don't know about the

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Speaker 8: See just what I thought, I gotta take, you got

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Speaker 7: NFL season, which is more surprising. Yesterday of these three games,

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Speaker 7: New York wins over Washington fourteen to seven, Baltimore kills

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Speaker 3: I was like, Eagles, Yeah, mineus Detroit because I watched

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Speaker 3: and they dismantle them. I'm talking about from start to finish, offensively, defensively, special,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about they just beat the brakes off of them.

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Speaker 3: So to me, I wasn't expecting it. And what I

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with you. It actually I was watching

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Speaker 8: I man, they looked really good yesterday. That kind of

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Speaker 3: I gave I gave him a little bit of an

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Speaker 3: I think the whole left side were back ups, and

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Speaker 3: essentially their whole office in line was back ups at

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they played a hell of a game, so I'll

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of that Philadelphia team, right now, they are six

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Speaker 2: How big do you think the gap is between Philadelphia

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Speaker 8: I think it's sizable. There's definitely a different tier there.

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Speaker 8: If it's Tier one to Tier tier or Tier two

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Speaker 8: I think there is still pretty sizable gap there. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: so it's it's crazy that we're already getting getting close

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Speaker 8: We'll see how big that gap really is. I don't

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Speaker 8: they're more complete. They've played more complete games to this point.

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Speaker 8: Obviously the Browns game is an exception, but you look

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty much the same. I do have forty

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Speaker 3: just because Philly, I think they have so many different

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Speaker 3: if the passing game isn't rolling, they can get the

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Speaker 8: That's a great point because, as always going back, I

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Speaker 8: When the defense is on, the offense is typically off

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Speaker 8: and it's hard to get the defense to carry you

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Speaker 8: we just need a little bit more symmetry, man, And

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Speaker 8: that's a great point to what we're talking about as

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Speaker 8: far as tiers because those good teams, whenever there's one

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I will go Philly, San Francisco, excuse me, San Francisco, Philly, Dallas, Detroit.

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Speaker 4: Are you giving it to yesterday? It's a golf or

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Speaker 7: If you give me that DK, I think it's better

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Speaker 7: It's always been in my opinion, with Dak, it's always

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Speaker 2: Can you give me that same thing every week? Especially

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Speaker 2: when you start talking about can you use your legs

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Speaker 7: Can you force teams to respect the fact that if

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Speaker 7: A part of this too, is it's not just Dak's call.

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Speaker 3: He has the talent and athleticism to be more dynamic

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Speaker 8: Right I think there's Sex in the wild card right

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Speaker 8: It will take me like five seconds, but I didn't think.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, all right, that makes sense, which Dallas will

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Speaker 8: Gonna be wild. I will say that stretch where you

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Speaker 7: And the interesting thing about it is, as we all know,

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Speaker 7: Let's get into our first trimester review. We started last week.

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Speaker 7: We're going to continue it this week. Primarily going to

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Speaker 7: be He's filling the blank questions I have for you guys.

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Speaker 7: We're going to start with I think probably the biggest

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Speaker 7: question that anyone has when they talk about the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: It and here is the statement with the fill in

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Speaker 7: the blank. Dak's play through the first six games has

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Speaker 7: been blank.

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Speaker 4: Inconsistent.

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Speaker 3: I think we see some games like where we were

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Speaker 3: playing New York and we're like, okay, this is very efficient,

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Speaker 3: like he's completing a lot of passes, he's protecting the ball,

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Speaker 3: and then you go to other games and you're like, wait,

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Speaker 3: was that Is that Dak being efficient or is that

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Speaker 3: him not taking chances to stretch the field?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: So, I think it's inconsistent for like what we believe

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Speaker 3: we should see from Dak.

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Speaker 4: And then you go into last week and he said, wait,

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Speaker 4: Dak's using his legs. Where's this? Dak been right?

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Speaker 3: And I think we expected to see this from the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the season.

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Speaker 4: So to me, it's been inconsistent.

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Speaker 3: It's gotten better, but it's just been you know, we

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Speaker 3: don't know what Dak we're going to see when we

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Speaker 3: go into a game.

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Speaker 8: Running through the sentence again, I want to be madically

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Speaker 8: correct if my answer.

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Speaker 7: Dak's play through through the first six games has been.

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Speaker 8: Blank, leaving me wanting more. So I one word that

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Speaker 8: Blake can be a book right left, okay, leaving me

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Speaker 8: wanting more. Again, We've seen glimpses of what we really

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Speaker 8: want to see in this offense on a consistent basis,

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Speaker 8: and it goes right into your inconsistency point. It's, uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, Dak using his legs as he did against

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Speaker 8: the Chargers a big, a big point for me. That

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Speaker 8: points out to me his his leg usage was against

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Speaker 8: the Patriots when he escaped in the red zone and

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Speaker 8: had that first down and put his shoulder down and

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Speaker 8: you know, set up a touchdown in the red zone,

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Speaker 8: which was you know unforeseen at that time. But uh,

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Speaker 8: and then downfield, we've seen the down ball action with

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Speaker 8: Michael Gallup one on one, just trusting him in those

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Speaker 8: areas and putting it in a position where only he

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Speaker 8: can go grab it. I've loved to see all of that.

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Speaker 8: I just want to see it more. I want to

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Speaker 8: see everything that he's doing good more. And I would

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Speaker 8: say that kind of plays into what the offense is

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Speaker 8: kind of schematically built around as well. It seems like

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Speaker 8: early in games and especially on opening scripts, they're just

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Speaker 8: keeping everything really centered and really mellow. I want to

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Speaker 8: see them break out with an opening script. You know,

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Speaker 8: have you utilize motion? There was a stat that was

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Speaker 8: thrown out in Sunday Night Football last night. The Dolphins

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Speaker 8: are utilizing motion on eighty six percent of their offensive snaps.

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Speaker 8: It feels like the Cowboys aren't even touching half of that.

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Speaker 8: So you know, I want to I want to throw

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Speaker 8: that out there, you know. I want to get Dak

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Speaker 8: in positions where he can succeed more. But I think

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Speaker 8: a lot of it falls on him as well.

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Speaker 7: The if you guys and I guess, let's move on

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Speaker 7: to the second question. To be better, Dak needs to

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Speaker 7: be blank.

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Speaker 3: Fearless, more fearless, And it's all to me. It's all

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Speaker 3: going to go back to using his legs to extend plays.

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Speaker 3: And it's easy for me to say because I didn't

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Speaker 3: go through what Dak went through with the like I

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Speaker 3: can imagine looking down at my leg and seeing seeing

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Speaker 3: it that way, I can imagine that it's some trauma there,

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Speaker 3: but for trauma something for him to then, like, if

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Speaker 3: he's able to get over that and then get back

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Speaker 3: to using his athleticism as he did at Mississippi State

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Speaker 3: when he was being lsu, then I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, Okay, we're rolling.

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Speaker 3: We're cooking with something now, because what we know is

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Speaker 3: if Michael Gallup, Ceedee Lamb or Brandon cooks, if they

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Speaker 3: aren't able to get open, we still can lean on Dak.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the top teams in the league,

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Speaker 3: especially the ones that were playing for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: last year. You look at Jalen Hurts, look at Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 3: you look at Joe Burrow, you look at Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: All these teams have quarterbacks who are dynamic enough to

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Speaker 3: extend plays, use their legs to get first downs when

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Speaker 3: everything breaks down, and with us not having that, then

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Speaker 3: I feel like that puts us behind. But when Dak

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Speaker 3: is doing that, that puts us right on level with

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Speaker 3: the rest of those teams.

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Speaker 8: So you're saying fearless more in the sense of being

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Speaker 8: more athletic and trusting your trusting the legs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, put it on the line, whatever it is, because

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Speaker 3: that's what we used to see. Oh man, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: go out there and do whatever he needs to do.

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Speaker 3: That's what makes so that's what makes them great. Now,

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Speaker 3: that's what made him that type of leader, because the

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Speaker 3: teammates look at him and say, oh, he did that,

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Speaker 3: our quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I'm about to go do that too.

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Speaker 8: I'm one hundred percent with you. I'm going to say

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Speaker 8: fearless in the sense of not giving a damn about

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Speaker 8: what happens outside of these doors, because I think just

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Speaker 8: being the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. He's going to be on

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Speaker 8: First Take every morning. You know, he's going to be

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Speaker 8: on the talk shows. I feel like at times it

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Speaker 8: gets to him a little bit. Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 7: I always thought of Dak and everything I've seen, everything

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Speaker 7: I've heard from people who deal with him on a

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Speaker 7: day to day basis is the opposite that he is

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Speaker 7: the most steady person they've ever seen when it comes

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Speaker 7: to managing people's expectations around him and in the outside world.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying you don't think that's.

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Speaker 8: I think it's starting to get to a point where

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Speaker 8: it's starting to affect him. And I think the offseason

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Speaker 8: really did that with the interception talk over the entire offseason,

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Speaker 8: and that became like a thing in his head, Okay,

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Speaker 8: I have to stop interceptions. And you can kind of

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Speaker 8: see it. It was the question that was asked at

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Speaker 8: the end of the New England game, and you saw

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Speaker 8: a little bit of it. He's like, you want to

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Speaker 8: piss me off, don't you talking about the the Niners

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Speaker 8: that were coming up, And you can just see him

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Speaker 8: get annoyed when certain questions come up, the turnover things,

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Speaker 8: the and now it's the red zone offense. Now he's

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Speaker 8: kind of getting tired of answering those questions. Well, it's like, well,

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Speaker 8: why don't you go out on the field and show that, Hey,

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Speaker 8: I don't have any fear in these areas. I can,

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Speaker 8: I can try to make a play, I can force things,

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Speaker 8: and you know, try to try to be that that

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Speaker 8: Dak dime guy that he has been in the past. Granted,

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Speaker 8: he's made some great throws this season, but I don't

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Speaker 8: feel like he's taken as any chances as he can

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Speaker 8: because he's he's scared of the turnover situation. That's that's

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Speaker 8: the way I feel. I want him to be fearless

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Speaker 8: in that situation. Who cares you throw three picks so

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Speaker 8: you win the game? You win the game, you know

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Speaker 8: So I I would love to see, yeah it is.

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Speaker 8: That is if you can, if you can win it,

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Speaker 8: if you can force that throw and still in the game,

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Speaker 8: that force that throw, you know so, because we saw

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Speaker 8: we saw that we saw in San Francisco. He came

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Speaker 8: out in the second half and it was almost like

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Speaker 8: You were what twenty eight to ten at that point.

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Speaker 8: And that was when we saw kind of fearless Dak,

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Speaker 8: but it was in a bad way because obviously it

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Speaker 8: was three picks like within five possessions, I believe. So

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Speaker 8: I want to see that on a consistent basis, just

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Speaker 8: more efficient. Let's let's make a little bit wiser throws.

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Speaker 8: And I'm not saying go throw three picks in five possessions.

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying, bring that fearlessness on a week two

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Speaker 8: week basis, because when you have it, when it's a

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Speaker 8: close game seventeen seventeen late in the fourth quarter, then

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Speaker 8: you have a drive like you had against the Charters

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Speaker 8: on Monday night. Granted it didn't end with a touchdout,

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Speaker 8: but it ended with Gay winning points.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on.

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Speaker 7: McCarthy's offense and play calling through the first six games

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Speaker 7: has been blank.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 3: In between the twenties, Like he comes out and we're

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Speaker 3: watching the game and I'm like, oh, we're rolling. Especially

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Speaker 3: when the run game gets going, You're like, okay, scheming

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Speaker 3: him up. Like McCarthy said, he's going to play to

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Speaker 3: the defense to make sure he lets them get as

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Speaker 3: much rest as possible in each drive with the kick,

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Speaker 3: and then you get in between the twenties and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with field goals because I do believe our

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Speaker 3: defense is great, but it would be nice to convert

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Speaker 3: some of these into touchdowns or just see that we're

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Speaker 3: close to scoring a touchdown where okay, it was just

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Speaker 3: off by a little bit. We're seeing running plays to

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Speaker 3: where it's like, really, really vanilla. We're not seeing any

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Speaker 3: as much creativity as we had hoped when we get

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Speaker 3: into the route concepts in the red zone. Really enjoyed

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Speaker 3: the Brandon Cooks mess route, which we were like, okay,

657
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Speaker 3: using his speed to get them all the way across

658
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Speaker 3: the field. Those are the type of things you want

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Speaker 3: to see in the red zone to kind of capitalize

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Speaker 3: on the skill sets of your receivers. But yeah, great

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Speaker 3: in between the twenties, red zone, not so much. The

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Speaker 3: one thing I would say is I'm happy with the

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Speaker 3: field goals in the red zone because the one time

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Speaker 3: when he decided to okay, I'm hearing all the red

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Speaker 3: zone noise, I'm gonna go fun on fourth down.

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Speaker 4: It bit us in the button right. We talked about

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Speaker 4: it all season.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play to the defense, and then we all

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Speaker 3: started talking about it. Everybody on ESPN started talking about it,

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Speaker 3: and then I felt like he heard it, and then

671
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Speaker 3: he went forward. But then the next game you see

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Speaker 3: him saying, you know what, I put my earplugs in.

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Speaker 4: I didn't hear. Let me go and kick the field goal.

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Speaker 2: So and by the way, you kicked his ball.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, which is surprised us. Right.

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Speaker 8: No, imagine if he wasn't, how bad that might be.

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Speaker 8: Looking at three and three. I'm just gonna say, non creative.

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Speaker 8: And it goes back to what I've been saying, you

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Speaker 8: know the last couple of shows. Just utilize the weapons

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Speaker 8: and better situations, get the ball in the playmaker's hands

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Speaker 8: in more creative ways.

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Speaker 2: So to be better, McCarthy needs to blank.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm think of I'll think of a better answer here.

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Speaker 3: To be better McCarthy Theeds two, I'm gonna steal yours. Well, Actually,

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Speaker 3: it's not that he needs to play to the strengths

686
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Speaker 3: of his the weapons that he now has. All right,

687
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Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks, like I'm always going to say, line him

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Speaker 3: up at number three, run him on the deep over

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Speaker 3: see who can keep up with him? All right, if

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Speaker 3: you find somebody that can keep up with him, then okay,

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Speaker 3: then they find playing b But I'm telling you you're

692
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Speaker 3: gonna have a hard time finding a defensive back who

693
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Speaker 3: can keep up with him running down the field like

694
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Speaker 3: that because he has that type of speed. That is

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Speaker 3: how you utilize one of your best player skill sets.

696
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Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb should be lining up all over the place

697
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Speaker 3: all type of motions. As you said, he missed his

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Speaker 3: one motion with turping when he was out of the game.

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Speaker 3: Turpy came in and ran into the bunch route. But

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Speaker 3: we should see more of that from CD Lamb as

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Speaker 3: we do see that from Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, all

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Speaker 3: those other receivers who you say, Okay, you know they're

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Speaker 3: going to face a lot of double teams. How can

704
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Speaker 3: we still then get these guys open. I think playing

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Speaker 3: more into that is what Mike McCarthy can do to

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Speaker 3: be better.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna say, put more trust in his quarterback. I

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Speaker 8: think if there's more trust there to you know, create

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Speaker 8: some things downfield cheerpoint on Brandon Cooks, then I think

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Speaker 8: there's more big plays and more explosive plays that will

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Speaker 8: be generated from that. I haven't loved the downfield passing

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Speaker 8: game just in general. I mean, we have seen some

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Speaker 8: opportunities where they've been able to capitalize on that. But

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Speaker 2: This question. The defense through six games has been blank.

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Speaker 4: Not as consistent as I want them to be.

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Speaker 3: I think as long as we're in a situation to

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Speaker 3: where we're ahead and we're forcing the other team to pass,

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Speaker 3: we are outstanding. I do want us to be better

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Speaker 3: in the run. I was surprised at how well we

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Speaker 3: played the run against San Francisco. I was one surprise,

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Speaker 3: but then I look back at Arizona and I say,

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Speaker 3: I was surprised at how you know, it was unfortunate

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Speaker 3: that we didn't play the run as.

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Speaker 2: Well as that's the only game.

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Speaker 7: Like when you think about they played well against the

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Speaker 7: run against the Chargers, is that the only game where

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Speaker 7: they had with that whole that old narrative of them

802
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Speaker 7: not being able to stop the run as popped.

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Speaker 4: Up that is that is the only game.

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Speaker 3: But for or as great as I want this defense

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Speaker 3: to be, that is not a game where you say.

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Speaker 4: We're going to give up It was two hundred at Arizona.

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Speaker 8: When you give up two hundred and.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two yards Russian, that's not just a bad game

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Speaker 3: against the run. That is a that is horrible against

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Speaker 3: the run. So like against the bad team, against the

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Speaker 3: bad team, when you see that, they're not doing much

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Speaker 3: now as you continue to watch it throughout the season.

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Speaker 3: So I think that is our Achilles hill, and it

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Speaker 3: has been for the last couple of years, our physicality,

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Speaker 3: and I want to see us continue to get better

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Speaker 3: and then have that be something that we stand on

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Speaker 3: it as we go into the playoffs. Like, hey man,

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Speaker 3: when you play the Dallas Cowboys, they're gonna be physical.

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Speaker 3: Every yard you get in the run game is going

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Speaker 3: to be earned. Like they should be saying that about us,

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Speaker 3: and if they do, knowing that what we have with

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Speaker 3: our pass rush. That's when we become that defense to

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Speaker 3: where you really fear and we travel wherever we're going.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, to a lot of those say points, I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: say great, but not elite as far as the defense,

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Speaker 8: or we've seen what elite could look like in this

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Speaker 8: defense the first two weeks. I mean, we're coming out

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Speaker 8: of Week two talking about this could be one of

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Speaker 8: the best defenses ever and then humbled really fast. And

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Speaker 8: then they turn around and have a really good performance

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Speaker 8: against New England and we see what that potential looks like.

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Speaker 8: Whenever everything is clicking and the pass rush is getting home,

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Speaker 8: they're forcing turnovers, they're playing complimentary football. And then San Francisco,

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Speaker 8: and I think San Francisco is more so of a

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Speaker 8: cause of the offense putting them on the field the

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Speaker 8: entire first half and then eventually they broke. I don't

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Speaker 8: think you can have any team in the history of

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Speaker 8: the NFL that's going to be on the field that

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Speaker 8: long against that offense and not break. So I would

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Speaker 8: say great, but not elite. I think there's a couple

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Speaker 8: of things that they can do to be elite. It's

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Speaker 8: to your save point, stopping the run, being a little

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Speaker 8: bit more efficient in covering slot receivers specifically. I feel

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Speaker 8: like Jordan Lewis has had a couple of lapses at moments,

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Speaker 8: but he's had good moments at other times. Against New

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Speaker 8: England really great, but against San Francisco there was some

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Speaker 8: lapses against the Chargers man that almost costs us the game.

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Speaker 8: I feel like, So I would say.

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Speaker 7: A little difference because of the fact that he missed

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Speaker 7: training camp and just kind of have sure kind of

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Speaker 7: get himself going.

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Speaker 2: Now he's going through that period during the season.

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Speaker 8: For sure, but at the same time, he's no different

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Speaker 8: than the guy lining up across the across the line

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Speaker 8: of scrimmage from him. So he'd have to be ready

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Speaker 8: to go. And when you're battling a guy like Keenan

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Speaker 8: Allen and there's trust there to battle a guy like

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Speaker 8: Keenan Allen, then I would expect him to be able

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Speaker 8: to play up to his potential in that in that instance. Granted,

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Speaker 8: I'm not out on Jordan Lewis by any means. There's

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Speaker 8: a lot of people that are on the Twitter sphere

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Speaker 8: where they're like, oh, let's get rid of Jordan Lewis.

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Speaker 8: Let's figure this out and I'm like, man, he's still

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Speaker 8: working himself. A good player, he's a great player, he's

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Speaker 8: a dog, he's great for that locker room. I think

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Speaker 8: he'll have a bounce back performance whenever he has an opportunity. Well,

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Speaker 8: there'll be a really good opportunity. Actually on Sunday. There's

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Speaker 8: a guy named Cooper Cup on the other side. But

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Speaker 8: I think if I think it's great but not elite.

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Speaker 3: Listen and those people who speak that way about Jordan

871
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: Lewis do not have a full understanding of the slot

872
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 3: corner being one of the most difficult positions to play

873
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: on the entire football field. Like you're talking about top

874
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: top three, Like you got quarterback, you might be slat

875
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: corner right after that, to be honest, because there's so

876
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: much space and the technique that you use on the outside,

877
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: you can't use that same technique on the inside because

878
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: there's a two way go most of the time, and

879
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: if you're not getting the help from a linebacker or safety,

880
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: then you pretty much on the island by yourself with

881
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: more space than any other position on the field, and.

882
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 7: You're going to see the best receiver every single week.

883
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 7: Because in today's NFL they figure if you got a

884
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 7: number one receiver, you figure out a way to get

885
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 7: him into the slot because you want to be having

886
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 7: given those opportunities to be able to work both sides.

887
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a tough position.

888
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: And they're motion in you, so now you can't press.

889
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: You got to come across the four.

890
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 7: Everything about it makes a challenge, everything about it all right,

891
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 7: if Dallas could upgrade any position before the trade deadline,

892
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 7: it would be blank.

893
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go say linebacker, just with the way the

894
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 8: depth looks at that position. I was close to saying

895
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 8: running back, and I've been off that running back point

896
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 8: for a while. But I was watching football yesterday, right,

897
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 8: and as you do, and the teams that succeed in

898
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 8: their running game, they're multiple in the running game. It's

899
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 8: either a quarterback that's really dynamic or it's two running

900
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 8: backs that can bounce off each other and they feed

901
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 8: off each other really well. They play two different style,

902
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 8: you know, a running games. I feel like the Cowboys

903
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 8: are really gonna have the loan running game with Tony Pollard.

904
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 8: But I want to speak to my linebacker point. The

905
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 8: depth there. I feel like even if Layton vander ash

906
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 8: is able to come back at some point this season.

907
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 8: You need a reliable option in that second level because

908
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 8: you know it takes one more injury and then you're

909
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 8: looking at a playoff game where you're potentially having to

910
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 8: start either you know, Rashaun Evans or Marquise Bell in

911
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 8: that second level. And granted, Marky's Bell played phenomenally aguainst

912
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 8: the Chargers, but you can't expect him to go out

913
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 8: there and play like that every single week. He's still

914
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 8: a safety at the end of the day. So I

915
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 8: would like to see a little bit more depth in

916
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 8: that second level if you ask me.

917
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm upgrading the position and shoot me for

918
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: this one, I'm going to interior defensive lineman. I want

919
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: because what we saw San Francisco do to us is

920
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: they utilize the double team almost every snap and they said,

921
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: we're just going to get you off, get you off

922
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: the ball. And I watched Philly play last night and

923
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm watching those guys like whole point on double teams

924
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: and free up those linebackers, giving them the room to run,

925
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: and if they're a step late, then they're not automatically

926
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: getting hit by the left tackle or the right guard

927
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: or whatever lineman who's not getting held on point. I

928
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: want to see us get I remember, are.

929
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: You saying a one tech or three tech?

930
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: Either one at this point? Either one. I'm thinking of

931
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: Philly last year picked up in dominicansu oh in season

932
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: like lateness latencies last year late and season and to me,

933
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: to me, it was a guy who then changed changed

934
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: some stuff for them on defense when we went and

935
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: got Mizzie Smith. We got Mozzie Smith because we said, okay,

936
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: we were My thought is we getting bullied when we

937
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: get into these physical games. We watched the Denver Broncos game,

938
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: then we ended off with the San Francisco game, and

939
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: you said, okay, we need to get more stout in here.

940
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be a pass rusher, but we need

941
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: somebody we say he's gonna whole point and allow everybody

942
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: else to run freely. And I just don't think we

943
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: have that right now. Our defensive line, especially in the

944
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: past game, is next to none. But as far as

945
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: in the run game, if we were going to upgrade,

946
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: I'll take interior defense swamp.

947
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 8: Let me ask you if if you could get a

948
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 8: linebacker that's just a dominating run stopper would that would

949
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 8: that kind of feel what you're looking for at the

950
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 8: same time, or do you want some guy? You want

951
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 8: somebody upfront.

952
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: I want somebody upfront, Okay, I want somebody up front

953
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: to take on those double teams, to be a disruptor.

954
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 3: Moved a line of scrimmage back because with the talent

955
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: that we have with d Law and Michael Parsons, and

956
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: then I think that allows the moont Clark to play

957
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: a little bit more freely. If Layton vanderz come back,

958
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: comes back healthy, I think you see a different Layton

959
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: Vanderesh when he doesn't have those offensive linemen getting pushed

960
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: back into his lap. So I would rather upgrade that

961
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: that position.

962
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 8: You know, it's so unfortunate. I did a lot of

963
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 8: draft prep in the in the last week. This is

964
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 8: a really good defensive tackle class, and I was like,

965
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 8: did they draft a defensive tackle too early?

966
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: Too early? But you know what's.

967
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 7: Interesting to me though, I do think they have they

968
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 7: have a disruptor and Osa. I think Olsa is a

969
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 7: good three technique from the standpoint. I do think he

970
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 7: gets in the back. I think he's he makes plays

971
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 7: for you. I think they got a good one technique

972
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 7: and Hankins who can caught things up, who can take

973
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 7: on a double team without getting moved. I think the

974
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 7: issue is neither one of them can give you much

975
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 7: in the other way, right, which maybe what you're saying like,

976
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 7: you got a one technique that can hold up, but

977
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 7: he ain't.

978
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: Gonna give you much disruption.

979
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 7: You got a three technique that can get into the

980
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 7: backfield and penetrate and make plays, but he ain't gonna

981
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 7: maket necessarily hold up on a double team. And so

982
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 7: or what is what you're saying that you want a

983
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 7: defensive tackle that can do both things, that can in

984
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 7: some instances hold up at the point of attack to

985
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 7: force or to allow this linebackers to be able to

986
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 7: run free and at the same time, on a third down,

987
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 7: be able to get a field and go disrupt.

988
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: And I think that is both right, because if you

989
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: don't hold a double team long enough and you have

990
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: a disrupt up there, he's gonna wreck the play, ye right.

991
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: And if you do have a guy who can hold

992
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: a double team and they have to because he's a disruptor,

993
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: then that allows them linebackers to run freely. So both

994
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: but a player who has that full steal set to say,

995
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: all right, we need to focus on this guy who's

996
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: on the interior defensive line, because we don't handle him,

997
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: then we don't have a player.

998
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: I mean, those guys exist, though, when I think around

999
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: the league.

1000
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 7: Obviously you got your Aaron Donald, you got I think

1001
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 7: Philly's got a few of these kind of.

1002
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: Guys right in our division. You know, they got a few.

1003
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 7: Of those guys you look at you look at New York.

1004
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 7: I think you can maybe say that about uh, what's

1005
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 7: the Dexter Lawrence. Yeah, you know, Washington even has a

1006
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 7: couple of those guys. But I just don't think when

1007
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 7: you start looking around the entire league, I don't think

1008
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 7: most teams have guys that do both things.

1009
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: Well that's right, that's what you know. It was imaginary,

1010
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: you know, right, if I had an idea word, I

1011
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: can upgrade the position. I go as you know, man,

1012
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: now give me a guy and say you put them right,

1013
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: like that's the guy I want there. But yeah, it

1014
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: is hard to find those guys. But you know, I

1015
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: wish I wish we could because because those other teams

1016
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: have been able to find them.

1017
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 8: Maybe they just maybe maybe they just just go get

1018
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 8: them we got an extra room some.

1019
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 4: Of the stuff.

1020
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 7: But I tell you that they got Dallas gott Mosie Smith.

1021
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 7: You get him later in the first round. That may

1022
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 7: be the difference between a defensive tackle you can get

1023
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 7: later in the first round and these guys we're talking about,

1024
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 7: who are you know, Top ten, top twelve, top fifteen

1025
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 7: type players. It's gonna be a much harder They're gonna

1026
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 7: much better players, probably because there's skill set suggested.

1027
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 3: You're looking at corner and you're saying, man like Watchet Philly.

1028
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, that's that's what I want.

1029
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 7: There's no way he should have dropped as far as

1030
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 7: he did, but yeah, he's that's exactly right.

1031
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: He Mosi Smith could be that. I'm not saying he

1032
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: can early is early in his career. I'm just saying,

1033
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: you know, when you draft a guy in the first round,

1034
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: to me, you're like, all right, I want to see

1035
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: that guy play now and be that type of disruptive,

1036
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: which he hopefully he can. But my upgrade as of

1037
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: right now will be there.

1038
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's.

1039
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 7: Go to the next question. The biggest surprise this season

1040
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 7: has been blank.

1041
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 8: Give me Brandon Aubrey. I did not expect him to

1042
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 8: be this efficient, this this being like the safety net

1043
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 8: sixteen for sixteen starting his career. If you had told

1044
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 8: me midway through training camp, but that's what we'd be

1045
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 8: looking up at, I'd be telling you you're crazy. And

1046
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 8: I remember we had that that very last campfire podcast

1047
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 8: at an Auxnard. It was the day before we left,

1048
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 8: and Haley Sutton that proposed a question, what's your confidence

1049
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 8: level on Brandon Aubrey right now? And I think I

1050
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 8: maybe had the highest and it was at like fifteen percent.

1051
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 8: And to be where we're at right now with probably

1052
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 8: a good ninety five percent confidence in Brandon Aubrey every

1053
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 8: time he steps out there, that's a huge surprise to me.

1054
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 8: So I'm just gonna say that leave it positive well.

1055
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: Since you went positive opposite, you know, because we brought

1056
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: up the kicker early start, and I'm kid you didn't

1057
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: steal it's it's the lack of production from Brandon Cooks

1058
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: before we go into that last game. He had under

1059
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: one hundred yards through five games of the season. And

1060
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: you watched Brandon Cooks any other team that he's been on,

1061
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: and he's been more than serviceable if he has a

1062
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: quarterback and even with Houston last year, I think he

1063
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: had six hundred, six hundred and fifty something yards something

1064
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: like that and they were in a two quarterbacks with

1065
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 3: some against us, right, So just functional. So no matter

1066
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: who he's been around and what team, he's been productive.

1067
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: And then to make it five games through the season

1068
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: and only have seventy two yards, that is the most

1069
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: surprising part, especially from what you were hearing coming out

1070
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: of training camp of like, Okay, he's fast. He's bringing

1071
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: a different, different type of leadership to our our receiver

1072
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: room as well. But the connection with him and Dak,

1073
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna see it early, and you just you just

1074
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: didn't see it, just knowing how fast he is and

1075
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: how productive he's been.

1076
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 7: And it's interesting during training camp every day in practice

1077
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 7: you saw them going downfield a lot, and I was

1078
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 7: I was, actually, that's what I've been shocked by is

1079
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 7: in camp. You couldn't have told me that this would

1080
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 7: be a team that is taking its shots down feel

1081
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 7: more regularly, especially with the guys you got, the speed

1082
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 7: you got on the that with guys in your receiving corps,

1083
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 7: they just aren't doing it as much as I thought

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Speaker 7: they would based on what I was seeing during training camp.

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Speaker 7: I expected them to use that a lot more as

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Speaker 7: a part of their offense, and it doesn't seem like

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Speaker 7: that's as much a staple.

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Speaker 8: And you can see the desire because you see Turpin

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Speaker 8: getting integrated in some weird situations, whether it be on

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Speaker 8: an end a round or handoffs in the red zone

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Speaker 8: or trusting him on that deep ball in San Francisco.

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Speaker 8: But where's that with Cooks as well? You know, like,

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Speaker 8: let's let's let's divvy up the trust a little bit.

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Speaker 8: You can tell if they want to utilize that speed.

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Speaker 8: I just feel like there's there's kind of a gap

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Speaker 8: there between once again and understanding it.

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Speaker 3: Do we still believe that Brandon Cooks is the Brandon

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Speaker 3: Cooks that we hoped we would get when he got drafted?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely right, because I do as well. I just want

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Speaker 3: to make sure that that it's.

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Speaker 2: Not that we saw it during training camp.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, he was going up against the

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Speaker 7: same defense that we think has potential to be really great,

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Speaker 7: and that was with Trayvon Diggs and he was making plays.

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Speaker 7: So yes, I think he still has the ability. I

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Speaker 7: just don't know for whatever reason, whether it's the scheme,

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Speaker 7: whether it's the play calling, whether they're just not using

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Speaker 7: him that way for whatever reason. It's not showing up

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Speaker 7: on Sundays.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's a Brandon Cook's problem.

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Speaker 4: No, me neither, because I can't go.

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Speaker 3: I can't watch what he's done at every squad and

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Speaker 3: be like, Okay, all of a sudden he got here

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Speaker 3: and then he he just lost everything.

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Speaker 8: I thirty. It's not like he's like late in his career.

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Speaker 8: Everyone talks about him being the seasoned veteran. He's just

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Speaker 8: turned thirty. He's dack sah.

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Speaker 7: You know. All right, we appreciate you guys. You on

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Speaker 7: to swop back to our normal schedules tomorrow. Man, I

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Speaker 7: appreciate you guys coming sitting in with me. It's been good,

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Speaker 7: been great. We've had some great conversation. Now you'll go

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Speaker 7: back to your show, A right.

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Speaker 8: Appreciate you show.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no.

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Speaker 7: not have known about your shows to now know, Hey man,

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Speaker 7: some good.

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