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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily. We're fourteen and two just doesn't

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Speaker 1: go as far as it used to. I'm Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: in the Chris Westleyan podcast studio with my friend Patrick

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Speaker 1: Claybahn and looking as always at Nick Shook in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: the Uncle of the year. How was your Christmas Shook?

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Speaker 2: It was fantastic, got to hang out with the kids,

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Speaker 2: good family time. Ah, Merry Christmas to all.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I hope you had one as well. Of

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Speaker 1: course we've talked to Patrick since that previews show. It

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Speaker 1: feels like a long time ago already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we had NFL games wrapped across like we

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Speaker 3: do a daily podcast, they do daily NFL games.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot. It was a lot this week.

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Speaker 1: It was, and it's gonna be a different sort of

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Speaker 1: recap show because TNF is in this game, that game exists, Seattle, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: that has happened, that actually happened. I thought the game

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Speaker 1: of the week was on Saturday in the in the

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Speaker 1: middle window, and we're going to get to that too.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna really construct this show like NFC AFC. But

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Speaker 1: I first wanted to start at least with what to

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Speaker 1: me was the most important game of the day on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the game only game that included two teams over ten wins.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to Minnesota second and goal from the nine.

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Speaker 6: Sam Darnold goes out of the shotgun, cam Akers joins

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Speaker 6: him to his left. Akers jumps to the right, now

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Speaker 6: back to the left, Donald out of the shotgun, takes

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Speaker 6: the staff, swings it to Acres, turns it up to

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Speaker 6: the ten to the five to shop.

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Speaker 7: Cam Akers put this third touchdown this season, and Minnesota

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Speaker 7: responds beautifully and opens up the lead twenty six to ten.

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Speaker 1: Now Vikings and cam Akers wouldn't be.

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Speaker 5: The last big play he made in that game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Minnesota got a seventeen point lead, and then they

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Speaker 1: held on at the very end twenty seven to twenty five.

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Speaker 1: And it was a third down completion to cam As

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Speaker 1: on a tricky pass as he's backing away from Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald and they're able to run out the clock after

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Speaker 1: sweating it out more than they expected to late.

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Speaker 5: Very similar to the Week four.

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Speaker 1: Game between the Vikings and the Packers, almost played out

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Speaker 1: the same way, whereas very one sided for about fifty

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Speaker 1: two to fifty three minutes, the Packers made it interesting

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Speaker 1: and yet it feels like the better team won this game.

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Speaker 1: And Patrick is just beaming because he had faith when

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald and the Vikings and I did not.

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Speaker 5: You you were right, you were right to pick them.

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Speaker 3: It was it was my collective lack of faith in

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald in these moments. But we got there again

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Speaker 3: once again a third and three where the throughout the

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Speaker 3: entire fourth quarter we're doing Game Day Live.

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Speaker 4: I'm almost Scott Pioli.

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Speaker 3: And there was a first down pass attempt when the

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Speaker 3: Vikings were trying to burn clock. After Emmanuel Wilson scored

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Speaker 3: to make it twenty seven to sixteen, the Packers go

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Speaker 4: It's twenty seven to eighteen. Very first play.

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald drops back to pass and Scott's like, you gotta.

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Speaker 4: Run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell stuck with the pass, and then they go

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Speaker 3: to that final moment where cam Akers eventually stumbles. Before that,

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Speaker 3: there's a completion of Justin Jefferson where he not only

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Speaker 3: and they get a to make it third and about

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Speaker 3: cam Akers. He catches it off his shoelaces there and

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Speaker 3: you mentioned that Week four game. The difference in that

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Speaker 3: game was it was an on side kick at the end.

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Speaker 3: Here the Vikings had to squeeze the life out of

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Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers, and they ultimately did, and again

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Speaker 3: not hiding their quarterback, just relying on Sam Donald, who

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Speaker 3: was now four touchdowns. If he has four touchdowns, he

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Speaker 3: ties Dante Culpeper in two thousand and four for the

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Speaker 3: most passing touchdowns in Vikings history in a single season.

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Speaker 4: If he can get four in the final game against

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Speaker 4: the against the Lions, Greg.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he nearly stacks up to that

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Speaker 1: Culpeper season, which I would rank in the top five

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Speaker 5: I've talked about this before.

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Speaker 1: It happened to be in a Peyton Manning season, but

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Speaker 1: it was one of the best seas. But it is

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Speaker 1: the best Vikings quarterback season since Brett Favre. I don't

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Speaker 1: There was that far season that was pretty electric and

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Speaker 1: and yet the faith and the belief that O'Connell has

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Speaker 1: Donald's on a full sprint. That just shows to me

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Speaker 1: how great Justin Jefferson is. He's one of the best

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Speaker 1: wide receivers I've ever seen in my lifetime. And why

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Speaker 1: he's so great is he's elite at literally every possible

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Speaker 1: like that, running full sprint, getting interfered with and being

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Speaker 5: And I don't need to say that he's clutched.

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Speaker 1: Because he's just always great, but he does always seem

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Speaker 1: to play his best when it really matters, And that

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Speaker 1: was a great throw by Donald as well or else.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Packers would have got this ball back

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Speaker 1: in a chance to win the game, partly because they

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Speaker 1: life in the last seven minutes when really before that

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Speaker 1: this thing was so one sided.

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Speaker 1: Took it was four hundred and something yards to one

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Speaker 1: didn't belong on the same field. Which are you a

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Speaker 1: little concerned about the Packers after this?

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Speaker 2: Not concerned necessarily. I mean, if you look at who

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Speaker 2: they've lost to, all those teams they've lost to have

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Speaker 2: like twelve plus wins, it's it's the Lions, it's the

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Speaker 2: Vikings twice, it's the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 1: That's basically who they're gonna have to be and maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, at least that's your test, Like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's your ceiling right now, but at least you

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 2: The only downside of this is the fact that it

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Speaker 2: and then that it was very lopsided for much of it,

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Speaker 2: and then they woke up in the fourth quarter. Packers

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Speaker 2: have made those adjustments at halftime instead of the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes that's the way things go, especially against defenses

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Speaker 2: So I'm not super concerned. I don't think that the Packers. Like,

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Speaker 2: and who knows, man, I mean, this is a this

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Speaker 2: It's just it can be frustrating for them. They're still

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Speaker 2: a very strong team overall. And by the way, that

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Speaker 2: about ambitious. Huh, little cree, little Ben Johnson out of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: get a little let's have a little pitch backwards, see

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Speaker 2: if it works. That was kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little more concerned about the Packers to

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Speaker 1: I thought it was about the coaches and the players.

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Speaker 1: I thought both sides of the ball Matt Lafleur, and

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Speaker 1: me kind of the magic of this Vikings team that

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Speaker 1: Eight for fifteen for sixty two yards against that man

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Speaker 1: shocked if they run the table against two of these teams.

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Speaker 1: Like let's say they get the Rams in the first round.

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Speaker 1: You win that, but you got to win two of

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Speaker 5: Had trouble with. I would be a little shocked. To me.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings and the Lions and the Eagles are are

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Speaker 1: a clear tier above. And to Shook Specs, fine, you know,

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Speaker 1: not everyone can win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It's not like the Packers have gotten run off the

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Speaker 3: field by those teams, right, they've they've been in these games.

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Speaker 4: They're in this game today.

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Speaker 3: They actually get pressure on Sam Donald thirty six percent

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Speaker 4: Kind of let the Packers back in the game at

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Speaker 3: And there were a couple of passes that sailed high,

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Speaker 3: which seems like Sam's having a tendency right now to

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Speaker 3: go dangerously. But Jordan love pressure thirty two percent of

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Speaker 3: they're kind of figuring out where does Flores send them,

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Speaker 3: how is he sending them? And that extra second, that

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Speaker 3: extra step slowing down the passing game, got some action

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Speaker 3: with Romeo Dobbs late. My concern would be there was

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Speaker 3: a lot of Manny Wilson towards the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's saving Josh Jacobs because the

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Speaker 3: far or road playoff game at the Link against the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: and so there was something for the Packers to play

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Speaker 8: The Bengals trying to win it from the three yard

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Speaker 5: It is Tew you're my tea. Hey, guys, touchdown.

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Speaker 9: It's Ovengals in the final playoff spot in the AFC

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Speaker 9: regular season. To NATI, Bengals are still alive as Joe

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Speaker 5: T Higgins did it.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got it done in a game that resembled

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Speaker 1: Higgins goes eleven for one point thirty one in three

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Speaker 2: I'm shouting at my TV when t Higgins makes that

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Speaker 2: But no, I'm not thinking that these teams maybe don't

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Speaker 2: great football game this is. First off, Denver, what a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's disappointing for the Broncos to not be able

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, you know, plays in this game, and it'd

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Speaker 1: He Burrow was giving his guy a chance to win

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Speaker 1: it and he took fifteen hits in this game. Burrow,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as the game started to progress and gets into

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Speaker 4: He makes up for that after that because.

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Speaker 3: He pretty much goes nuclear after that with two touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: Bo Nicks wanted to go for two.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton looking over telling Bo, hey, if we get

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Speaker 4: Leading to that, I think.

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Speaker 1: The tie got in Sean Payton's head, and I think

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Speaker 4: Much worse on the Bengals side.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was as bad as you think.

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks was all over the place in this game.

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Speaker 5: They weren't really moving the ball.

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Speaker 5: Marvin goes up, makes the catch. That's a different touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Stud here at pay Course Stadium, a twenty five yard

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Speaker 1: I mean when Nicks was facing immediate pressure on that

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Speaker 5: That's just great football.

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Speaker 1: And at that point you go for the TWU san

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: Just try to score the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Like be safe, maybe with the concern with the play

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Speaker 1: You literally lost the game against the Ravens in overtime

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Speaker 1: The Bengals defense too much credit, Shook, because the reality

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Speaker 1: is his Nicks missed two open receivers on third down

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Speaker 1: in overtime, and if Nicks literally hits that throw where

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Speaker 1: he's stepping up in the pocket in overtime and he's

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Speaker 1: got someone crossing, they get a first down there, the

442
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Speaker 1: game is basically over and the Broncos are gonna take

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Speaker 1: the tie and it's going to be extremely disappointed. So

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he missed it just for the drama that

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Speaker 1: we're getting week eighteen. But what did you think of

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Speaker 1: the game management stuff and everything that went on here?

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were deeping the TI zone at that point,

448
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Speaker 2: and it's one of those situations where you're like the

449
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Speaker 2: Bengals they have to win to stay alive, so they

450
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Speaker 2: got to go full force, but they don't really have

451
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Speaker 2: the game and their control right now because they're at

452
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Speaker 2: the mercy of the Broncos offense. But it really spoke

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Speaker 2: to Bonnicks as a rookie, to me more than anything,

454
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Speaker 2: which is he has these highlight moments where he throws

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Speaker 2: a fifty one yard touchdown pass to Marvin Mims and

456
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Speaker 2: it's like, I didn't even know you had that in you.

457
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Speaker 2: I know you stepped into that to get that down there.

458
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Speaker 2: But what a throw and at least.

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Speaker 1: Seven area yards, the second longest in next gen stat's his.

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Speaker 1: I will give a cookie to if either of you

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Speaker 1: guys know what the longest one is. This is only

462
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Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen that next instance has been keeping.

463
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Speaker 5: Anthony ran on this very show. That is not it.

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Speaker 1: I have called it one of the greatest throws of

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Speaker 1: all time over and over. It's the PJ Walker to

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore throw, which just as a pure throw is

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Speaker 1: maybe the best thro I've ever seen in my entire life.

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Speaker 5: A couple of years ago. And then wow, the shocking

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Speaker 5: yeah he got in one.

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Speaker 1: It really was, I mean, situation, accuracy, length, all of

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Speaker 1: it was incredible.

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Speaker 5: But man, bo Nick's that's it.

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Speaker 1: Like he had such crazy highlights in this game and

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Speaker 1: he ends up with two nineteen and three touchdowns, one interception.

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Speaker 1: You think he played a great game, and it's just

476
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Speaker 1: up and down, which is gonna happen with rookies and

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Speaker 1: this defense, I guess Unfortunately it was like a little

478
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Speaker 1: more up and down. The thing I will defend Zach

479
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Speaker 1: Taylor about Shook is at the end of regulation, they

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Speaker 1: are going in to try to win the game, and

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Speaker 1: Chase Brown injures himself sliding at the one, and they

482
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Speaker 1: were planning to kick the ball with about ten seconds

483
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Speaker 1: to go there and Chase Brown sliding and getting hurt

484
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Speaker 1: changed the math and at that point I understood going

485
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Speaker 1: for the touchdown, Like, did you.

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Speaker 5: Have any problem with that?

487
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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 1: I am always looking to criticize Zach Taylor, and actually

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was anything he particularly did wrong

491
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Speaker 1: here until overtime. You got a little conservative kick, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: kicking that field goal.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that speaks to sometimes you can overmanage

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Speaker 2: a game, and I think both coaches kind of did

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Speaker 2: in that situation go you know, overtime, Both of them

496
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Speaker 2: coach tight in overtime, which is, you know what led

497
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Speaker 2: to the result and the fact that you miss a

498
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Speaker 2: field goal and everything else. But like I think sometimes

499
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Speaker 2: in that situation you can overthink it and then cost

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Speaker 2: yourself an opportunity. And let's face it, this is a

501
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Speaker 2: Bengals offense that was twice in a goal to go

502
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Speaker 2: situation and didn't convert and they had to settle for

503
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Speaker 2: three one time and turn it over on downs another time.

504
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Speaker 2: So you can't like you're not gonna count your your chickens, right, like,

505
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Speaker 2: you're just gonna get it in there when you can

506
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Speaker 2: get it in there in a tai football game, and

507
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Speaker 2: that's what they did. So I was fine with it,

508
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Speaker 2: but I did as soon as Burrow got across the

509
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Speaker 2: goal line, which wasn't an immediate ruling. It took a

510
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Speaker 2: second before the crowd erupted. In the back of my mind,

511
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Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, they got a timeout. They

512
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Speaker 2: still up.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but the only they all they could have

514
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Speaker 1: done in theory was like kneel on second down and

515
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Speaker 1: try to score a third and you just take away

516
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Speaker 1: a time out. At that point, the math had changed

517
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Speaker 1: because Chase Brown got hurt. They would have been giving

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Speaker 1: the ball back to the Broncos with like thirty five

519
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Speaker 1: forty seconds left, only needing three.

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Speaker 5: I actually am I'm with Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather be up seven with a minute and a

522
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Speaker 1: half to go and be able to prevent a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And there's no guarantee, as you said that they even

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Speaker 1: were going to score the touchdown. They were stopped in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. And that might have been playing in

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Speaker 1: his mind too. That's like, let's try to score as

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Speaker 1: many points as we could at that point once the

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Speaker 1: Brown injury happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think a big factor that maybe needs to

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Speaker 3: be considered is the Broncos were trying to let them

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Speaker 3: score the touchdown. That that's what plays the decision making

532
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Speaker 3: for me. Where if you run that quarterback sneak when

533
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Speaker 3: the Broncos are willing to concede the touchdown and you

534
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily have to score on that play, and then

535
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Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos can use the time out. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's a very niche scenario because how often are

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Speaker 3: you practicing having a quarterback sneak from the one yard

538
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Speaker 3: line that doesn't score. But if the math is to

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Speaker 3: have Chase Brown go down, which it was why Chase

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Speaker 3: acknowledge that Coach Taylor they told them before, then I

541
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily know how much of the calculus that changes.

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Speaker 1: It changes a ton because you're scoring with ten seconds

543
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Speaker 1: left instead of forty seconds left.

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Speaker 5: That's a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: Five And your pass rush, which hasn't been able to

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Speaker 3: get to bow Nicks for the majority of the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: immediately it haves them go all the way down the

548
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Speaker 3: field and score with fourteen seconds remaining in the ball.

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Speaker 5: That's football. It was fun.

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Speaker 1: You're here, right though, I mean, commn Burrow, You're right,

551
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Speaker 1: like there was so much to get into mentally and physically.

552
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Speaker 1: But Burrow, it's why I'm really excited that they have

553
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Speaker 1: the voting with the MVP. How they have it now,

554
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Speaker 1: how we've been doing it on Monday nights, shuck. And

555
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Speaker 1: maybe we'll have to revisit MVP here for week eighteen

556
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Speaker 1: that it's a five person ballot because I don't know

557
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Speaker 1: what Burrow.

558
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Speaker 5: Is going to finish.

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Speaker 1: Some people are going to push for him to get

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Speaker 1: first place. I think he'll get it some first place votes,

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Speaker 1: depending on how happens. I think in the end, he'll

562
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Speaker 1: probably finish third or fourth. But I like that we

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Speaker 1: have that document and that people will be like that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be on the ballot, whereas in the

565
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Speaker 1: past there just would have maybe been zero Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: votes at all. And I like, just as a document

567
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Speaker 1: we see, okay, he's third or fourth. Hell, Sam Darnold

568
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Speaker 1: might be finishing like fifth, sixth or seventh in the

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Speaker 1: MVP vote, which I think is incredible that that will

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Speaker 1: be a document, and so I think that's cool. And

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Speaker 1: he he is playing quarterbacks as well as anyone.

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Speaker 5: He would not be my MVP vote.

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Speaker 1: We do not need to litigate that here today, but

574
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Speaker 1: my god, he he is playing some incredible football. He

575
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Speaker 1: really reminds me of next generation, like evolution of Tom Brady,

576
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Speaker 1: like more than any other just more athletic, obviously, like

577
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Speaker 1: if Tom Brady, you know, could move, but other than that,

578
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Speaker 1: just he reminds me more of Tom Brady than any

579
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Speaker 1: other player I've ever watched.

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Speaker 5: What a performance.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad they finally got to win against a team

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Speaker 1: with the winning record, So that puts him at eight

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Speaker 1: and eight, Broncos at nine and seven. They have not clinched.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals then sat back and they decided to watch

585
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Speaker 1: what was gonna happen on Sunday because they knew they

586
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Speaker 1: needed some help. They needed the Colts and the Dolphins

587
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Speaker 1: to lose over the next two weeks. They were hoping,

588
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Speaker 1: can we get one, maybe two of those? During Week seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 10: Lockfall's out signal takes the snap, playfish lock back to throw,

591
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Speaker 10: rolls his luck.

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Speaker 4: He's got a lane, He's.

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Speaker 1: To the five.

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Speaker 5: He goes into the end zel touchdown, and the.

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Speaker 10: Giants respawn Drew Locke on a third and goal at

596
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Speaker 10: the five runs it in June fifty seven ago, forty

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Speaker 10: one thirty three Giants.

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Speaker 5: Boom, Bob Papa. I don't know if he was happy.

599
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Speaker 4: Everybody was. The crowd shots are hilarious.

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Speaker 5: Drew Lock was happy?

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Speaker 1: That was wfan Giants fans maybe not. What if I

602
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: told you Nick that Drew Lock threw for three hundred

603
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Speaker 1: and nine yards in a game where he only threw

604
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Speaker 1: the ball twenty three times. What if I told you

605
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Speaker 1: he had four interceptions and he knocked out a former

606
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP from playoff contention.

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Speaker 5: The Colts are done.

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Speaker 1: The Giants win forty five to thirty three, and there

609
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: was much celebration in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would tell you that he has Milik Neighbors

611
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: on his team. Yes, because that was what happened on two.

612
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: It was short passes and militic neighbors and all of

613
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Speaker 2: sudden Neighbors was gone through traffic down the field, touchdown,

614
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Speaker 2: another one touchdown. He did spread the ball around really well.

615
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Speaker 2: He went to Wandale Robinson, a good to mount. He

616
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Speaker 2: was a Darius Slayton for a touchdown. He looked sharp

617
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Speaker 2: and the numbers back it up efficiency wise, Like you said,

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Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty three with four touchdowns as the best

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Speaker 2: game drew locks played in the ENA, and it came

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Speaker 2: against a Colts team that had to win to stay alive.

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Speaker 2: It was like, this is what happened in the league

622
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Speaker 2: sometimes every once in a while, a team that you

623
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Speaker 2: definitely think you should dominate, who just got dominated a

624
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: week prior by another team fighting for their playoff lives

625
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: comes in and has their best game of the year

626
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Speaker 2: when it means nothing to them, and leaves their fans conflicted.

627
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: Do we enjoy this win? Do we get upset about

628
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: the fact that our draft pick is worse Even when

629
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: things are going well, they're still going poorly for us.

630
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Speaker 2: But it was really fun to watch. It was fun

631
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Speaker 2: to watch Giants fans enjoy a home win for once.

632
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: They were ohnate at home going into this game, and

633
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Speaker 2: Lot comes out and balls out, leaning on Milik neighbors,

634
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: and it opens up the rest of the offense and

635
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: they have a fantastic day against the Colts team that

636
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: couldn't get out of their own way in the first

637
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Speaker 2: half and then mounted a comeback effort a little too

638
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Speaker 2: late and kind of imploded down the stretch.

639
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Giants fall to fourth according to Tankathon in

640
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: the draft positioning, still a lot to be determined there.

641
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: There are nine teams that have either three or four losses.

642
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Four of them have three losses. We'll talk about them

643
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: coming up. But it's kind of a a come to

644
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: Jesus moment, I think for this Colt organization. Patrick obviously

645
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's defense in the crosshres.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Here, and just to piggyback on what Nick said, like

648
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Speaker 1: this was a Neighbor's performance that just reminded you like

649
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of Chasing Jefferson in him,

650
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Speaker 1: that he can do every type of catch there possibly

651
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: is in any yards after catch, like the second I

652
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: wrote that Brian Thomas's wide receiver won in this class,

653
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Speaker 1: like definitively on Twitter. He just went a little extra

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Speaker 1: and I think the reasonable minds could disagree there.

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Speaker 5: But Neighbors is special.

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Speaker 1: But still to give up forty five to the Giants

657
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: in a playoff type situation is tough. And they've spent

658
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: a lot of money quietly on that defense, a lot

659
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: of draft picks too, they have.

660
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: They got the first player drafted on the defensive side

661
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: of the ball. This year they come into MetLife where

662
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: the Giants now thirty four percent of the points the

663
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: Giants have scored at MetLife Stadium this season came in

664
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: Week seventeen against the Indianapolis wo It was it was

665
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: that type of game and joke was talking about the

666
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: Drew Locks career performance. One hundred and five of those

667
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: yards were after the catch for Malik Neighbors. Wow today,

668
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: including that a huge A couple of huge ones after

669
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: the catch on the screen. One was fifty plus on

670
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: a crosser for Malik Neighbors, but the Colts moved the

671
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: ball Joe Fleaco through for three hundred and thirty yards.

672
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: He had two interceptions, including one that ended the game.

673
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: There was a two point conversion that could have tied

674
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: the game where they run the hook and ladder and

675
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: mpj is picked pitching the ball to Jonathan Taylor and

676
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: the pitch came out a little too fast and it

677
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: winds up hitting the ground, bouncing out of bounds.

678
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 5: But I mean, that's been kind to Jonathan Taylor.

679
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: At a certain point, you do expect this great athlete

680
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Taylor is to be better at catching the ball.

681
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: It's been a it's but maybe you shouldn't drop that

682
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: play for him because that it's been a problem for

683
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: him since since he entered the league.

684
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: And ultimately that was there were no catches for Jonathan

685
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: Taylor through the or on that pitch. So he did

686
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: have one hundred and twenty five yards on the ground,

687
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: two touchdowns, a strong finish for Jonathan Taylor on the ground.

688
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: But we're we're still sitting here with this Colts defense

689
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: with an opportunity again with a team that has basically

690
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: done nothing at home. And after the game, you know,

691
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: Brian Daboles talking about getting.

692
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: Great play from a quarterback.

693
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: Maybe a sneak disc that's not so sneaky directed at

694
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: senior dimes.

695
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 12: Have any inkling that you could have a big day offensively?

696
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 9: You know, it just hasn't been there.

697
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: You know.

698
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 13: I think if if you get good quarterback play, you

699
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 13: know you have an opportunity in every game.

700
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: Wow, not wrong, It's true.

701
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a sneak thisss at dives. I

702
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: think it's at the front office. Maybe I'm reading too

703
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: much into it, but I think that's a guy who's like,

704
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna f and fire me. You're gonna

705
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: keep You're gonna keep this guy who looked like a

706
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: fool frankly on Hard Knocks, Joe Shane, and you're gonna

707
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: fire me because I think that's the expectation right now

708
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: in New York, and I think that's his expectation. And

709
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: I could be reading into it, but I think that

710
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: was his parting shot was like, and I know neighbors

711
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: is the reason they got, They got, you know, so

712
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: many yards and everything. Today he's like, this is the

713
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: situation you stuck me with. If you at any point

714
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: you had given me a quarterback.

715
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: Was was was it?

716
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: Joe shanees called to have de Vito in because if

717
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: de Vito doesn't get hurt, then Drew Lock's not playing

718
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: in this game and having this career performance fair being

719
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: the only touch the only quarterback the season with four

720
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: touchdowns and one rushing touchdown.

721
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: It's been my most lukewarm take that, Uh, Drew Locke

722
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: is a massive upgrade on Tommy DeVito and actually hasn't

723
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: been that bad last few weeks. He just looks like

724
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback who's gonna have crazy ups and downs

725
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: this game does feel more about the Colts. But it

726
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: is funny to me that shar Sanders supposedly wore kind

727
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: of giants colored theme fleats at his bowl game.

728
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 5: Did you guys know this?

729
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go on them. I'd seen them in.

730
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Kind of amazing and now they're there fourth. Although they

731
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: they could very easily end up with Sugar Sanders, they

732
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: could still end up with the number one pick.

733
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 5: Like it is all it's all.

734
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: Posserble, it's all in the air. It wouldn't have been

735
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: had they lost. They lost this game, but it's all

736
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: in the air.

737
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: So is the future of the Colts. So the Colts.

738
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this that they have made the playoffs

739
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: twice since twenty fourteen. Don't we think of the Colts

740
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: as a better franchise than that? That's that's not much.

741
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: They do not have a division title in the Chris

742
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: Ballard era, which feels like like.

743
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but they've been in the playoffs.

744
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, that's not a great division

745
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: and you haven't won it once in a really long stretch.

746
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: Every other team in the in the division over that

747
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: stretch has won it at least twice.

748
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: Wow, you tie that the quarterback. I mean they've had

749
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: a turnstyle at quarterback since the one great year with him.

750
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

751
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: Well it's like, oh my gosh, and I saw this response,

752
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: so I'm stealing it. I forget Who's It's like, oh no,

753
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: like our our franchise quarterback retired sixty five games ago.

754
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: It's like yeah, Like, it's like, let's get over it.

755
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: They're they're living in a land of delusion where they

756
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: think they're better than they they are and they can

757
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: stop gap the quarterback position. Then they went and drafted

758
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: a guy and he got hurt after a month, but

759
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: showed just enough to make you think, well, if he's healthy,

760
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: he'll be great. And then he came back this year

761
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: and struggle with accuracy to the point you benched him

762
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: for Joe Flacco. Then he sucked, you went back to Richardson.

763
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: He's hurt today, Flacco's back in. There's no stability at

764
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: the position. This is why they have the problems they have.

765
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: They need to look in the mirror and realize we're

766
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: not as good as we think we are. But we

767
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: first need to solidify quarterback, the most important position in sports,

768
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: before we can do anything else. And I think that

769
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: a lot of that will come down to what they

770
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: do with Richardson in the offseason. I mean not saying

771
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: that they're going to move him, but they need to

772
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: work on some of his fundamentals. Work on the accuracy,

773
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: because if he gets that figured out, there's your answer.

774
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: That's fit. They were better without everything. They would have

775
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 5: been better today with him.

776
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, he probably would have won today Quarterback's notwithstanding, Drew

777
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: Locke is going to have a memorabilia in his house

778
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: from this game for the rest of his life. Right,

779
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: if it's Joe Flacco, if it's Nick Shook, if it's

780
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal starting for the Coals, it does not matter

781
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: the New York Giants.

782
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: The twenty four New York Giants scored forty five points.

783
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 5: That is out righteous.

784
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: So obviously gus Bly's gone and people have been speculating, like, oh,

785
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: Eberflus will come back. That's assuming Stiking's gone. Ryan Kelly

786
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: spoke tearfully after the game. I think he's gonna retire.

787
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: This game reminds me so much of the twenty twenty

788
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: one finale that the Colts had where they completely collapsed

789
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: against the Terrible Jaguars. Team, and it got Carson Wentz

790
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: out the paint basically, and people now it seems obvious,

791
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: but at the time that was kind of surprising. After

792
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: that season, I think this game gets Chris Ballad fired.

793
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: I've just seen enough ways that season ends that this

794
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: is the type of game that a big change happens.

795
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: Whether that means Stikeen goes or not. That could be

796
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: up to the next GM.

797
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 5: Who knows. You could see a situation.

798
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: But I just have a feeling that Jim Ursay will

799
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: make a change that this game is gonna have some

800
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: big repercussions. So the Colts they're out, They are no

801
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: longer in the hunt. Take them off the graphic. They

802
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: played in the early window, the Dolphins played in the

803
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: late window. Would they stay on the graphic?

804
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 4: Versten, It's a thirteen yard hunder play.

805
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 5: Absolutely rolling to his right, he is gonna run with

806
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 5: the football. Don't concurve me the end.

807
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: Zoe reach in touchdown.

808
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 5: Wow?

809
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: Tell me, I thought he's going out of bounc He's

810
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: stayed in on his feet.

811
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: What a run by Tyler Huntley.

812
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: What a run? What a performance? What do you know?

813
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 5: You let a guy practice in.

814
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: Your offense for a couple of months who knows how

815
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: to play at the pro level, and he looks a

816
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: lot better than when you just stick him in there,

817
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: because he's the fourth quarterback that you can, you know,

818
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: put in the lineup. Twenty two for twenty six were

819
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five yards and a touchdown through

820
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: the air for Huntley.

821
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: He also led the team in rushing.

822
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: He doubled anyone else in rushing with fifty two on

823
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: the ground. The Dolphins cruise twenty to three. They're eight

824
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: and eight, and there's a real chance here, shook, that

825
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs.

826
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: And it's not the Broncos.

827
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: If the Broncos lose next week, and it's not the

828
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: Bengals because the Dolphins are ahead of them in the

829
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: pecking order, that it's the Dolphins at nine to eight

830
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: that get into the playoffs.

831
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: What do you think?

832
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the sneaky little back door entry for the Dolphins

833
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: who we all left for dead. Oh, I don't know,

834
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: six to eight weeks ago when they looked awful before

835
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: they even got to a back and even then it

836
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: didn't look too great. And now suddenly here they are.

837
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: They win a game without to against the Browns, team that. Granted,

838
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: if it was pretty much any other team, it would

839
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: have been a closer game because the Browns offense is

840
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: that bad. But the Dolphins go on the road and

841
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: get the job done. Now, I will say this, it's

842
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: late December, it's supposed to be cold here, it's not.

843
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: It's like sixty degrees out, but it started raining. None

844
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: of that mattered to them. They were one dimensional. None

845
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: of that mattered to them because they got timely played

846
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: from Khalais Campbell on the defensive side, and Tyler Huntley

847
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: was super efficient. He got the ball out quickly, averaging

848
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: two point three seven seconds time to throw in this game,

849
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: just quick passes to tyre Qui Hill, quick passes to

850
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: Johonna Smith for a touchdown, runs for a touchdown, scrambles

851
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: for a big third down. You know, this game finished

852
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 2: twenty to three, and it wasn't until that Smith touchdown

853
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: pass that it really was officially done. But at the

854
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: same time, I'm sitting there and I'm like, there's no

855
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: chance the Browns come back in this game, Like the

856
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: Dolphins have this one in hand at basically ten to three,

857
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: especially when they got a goal line stand on fourth

858
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: down and turn the Browns away when they should be

859
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: proud of. Honestly, like miss, you were going against enough

860
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: adversity to believe this might be where our season ends.

861
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh you mean the Colts lost and two is not playing.

862
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: We're screwed. We're gonna blow it. No, they didn't blow it.

863
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: They wouldn't got the job done.

864
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 5: No, they didn't.

865
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Now the Browns are closest to tanking of any team

866
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL because they're playing a quarterback that clearly

867
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: doesn't give them as good a chance to win as

868
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: another quarterback on their roster.

869
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: That's DTR.

870
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I liked what I saw at DTR in those preseasons,

871
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: and I kind of get why they just wanted to

872
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: take a look at them and evaluate, and and they've

873
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: been able.

874
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: To look it over.

875
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty eight dropbacks tonight and they ended up with

876
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two passing yards. And I'm not

877
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna go crazy giving the Dolphins flowers, but they did

878
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: beat two of the actations that I've been you know,

879
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: throwing their way in terms. I guess you're right, it's

880
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: not as cold, but we killed McDaniel for not getting

881
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: it done without Tua. Earlier in the season and he

882
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: had his quarterback ready to go. Now Tua may or

883
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: may not be ready for Week eighteen. He has a

884
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: hip injury that McDaniel said they that didn't get better

885
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: during the week and that there is risk if he

886
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: got hit again that it could get a lot worse.

887
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Reading between the lines, I think we're seeing Tyler Huntley

888
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: again next week, which means I don't want to see

889
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: them in the playoffs.

890
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 5: They have the Jets in Week eighteen.

891
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

892
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: It was that devastating hip injury that ended to his

893
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: career at the University of Alabama. It was the concern

894
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: coming into the draft. It took a long time for recovery.

895
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: It's it was.

896
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: He says it's unrelated for what it's worth, but that

897
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: doesn't mean much to me.

898
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when when I hear Tua and hip like,

899
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: that's immediately where my mind goes. And of course there's

900
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: the brain injury concerns that a lot of folks have,

901
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: But that was other than the you know, he have

902
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: ankle surgery in college as well. He had that, the

903
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: strap angel ankle surgery. But it was the hip injury

904
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: and all the extensive recovery that he went through where

905
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: he misses these games this season, and as you said,

906
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 3: you pointed it out, they just weren't prepared to play

907
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: with the backup quarterback. This was the Pro Bowl Tyler Huntley. Yeah,

908
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: we have famously seen. I mean, he comes out there

909
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: and makes those plays. I mean, he made the Pro Bowl.

910
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: Greg.

911
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 5: It was not his best it was season. He played

912
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 5: three games.

913
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: He did have a nice stretch the year before, and

914
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad this this is one of those games that

915
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: keeps him in the league for an extra three or

916
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: four years. It's good, a little dicey.

917
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: Good because I mean we've we've seen Tim Boyle play

918
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: for multiple teams in four Tyler Huntley, who has a

919
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl on his record, by the way, I can

920
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: still play. But dtr and the Browns did have a

921
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: fourth and goal and he added an attempt to Jerry

922
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: Judy where Judy had a solid case that Jalen Ramsey

923
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: grabbed him and wrapped around and interfered with that pass attempt.

924
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: But that was the best scoring opportunity. A rough looking

925
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: injury as Chop Robinson went low on Jerome Ford. He

926
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: did not come back into the game, left the game

927
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: with the knee injury there. But this this Dolphins team,

928
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: they get a little bit of help, they can get

929
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: in and I hope they.

930
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: Do, so I don't I'd rather see the Broncos. Yeah,

931
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: even if t was playing. I think to me, the

932
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: Broncos and the Bengals have been more central to my

933
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: experience this season and would just be more interesting. What

934
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: am I even putting the Broncos in there?

935
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 5: Everyone wants.

936
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: I just want to see Joe Burrow in the playoffs,

937
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: like Dolphins or Broncos whatever, I don't care between the

938
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: two of them. I apologize to you Dolphins, but yeah,

939
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: don't be mad that we all would rather see Joe

940
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: Burrow in the playoffs. And I was saying all week

941
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: weird Tyreek Hill vibes that it was a squeaky wheel

942
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: type of game for him. Nine targets, nine catches, one

943
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: hundred and five yards. All he needed was snow puntley

944
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: to get in there to get off the snide. Although

945
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: there was one play where he got the ball and

946
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: you just thought you were going to see that Tyreek

947
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: for like a long play and they got him by

948
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: the foot.

949
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: No, not that one, another one.

950
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: It's just like and they got him from behind, just

951
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: like by the ankles and like those that's been happening

952
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: a little more with Tyreek k All right, let's take

953
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: a quick break, because that was it for the wild Card.

954
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: It's all set up for a three team battle. The

955
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Broncos will play the Chiefs next week. Could be against

956
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: their backups. We don't know that for sure.

957
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: We don't know at all.

958
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: The Bengals will have the Steelers tough game, and the Dolphins, Yes,

959
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: they could sneak in the back door against the Jets.

960
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little more about a team. After the

961
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: break that clinched their.

962
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 13: Spot pistol formation, Herbert takes the snap to throw they

963
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 13: rush for and takes a shutdown field has mcaukee car

964
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 13: touchdown Chargers. Let mcconkee fly that plane back to the

965
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 13: sideline and what away from mconkee to set the Charger

966
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 13: rookie record for most receiving yards season. He does it

967
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 13: on that grab a forty yarder for his second touchdown

968
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 13: of the game. Thank you, Elliott Woolf.

969
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh call him money Talks cass tired by Matt Bunny

970
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Smith on KYSR. Yes, Money, you said what.

971
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: Some Patriots fans were thinking.

972
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking was this is the guy that you

973
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: traded back for to take Jalen Polking. You passed on

974
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: a somewhat undersized white receiver.

975
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 5: Lad mccakie just eating you up.

976
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Mccacky won a four rookie receivers to go over a

977
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: thousand yards, by the way, first time in NFL history

978
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: that's ever happened. This Chargers team is awesome. They won

979
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: forty to seven. They only punted twice, They had four

980
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight yards a fifty five percent success rate.

981
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 5: Herbert just going absolutely nuts.

982
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: They're going for fourth downs at midfield with like twenty

983
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: seven ACKs left in the first half. Total confidence, total trust.

984
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: He comes through in that situation. Great pass, bro Ladd

985
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: is awesome. How dangerous do you think this Chargers team is?

986
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Now that the offense is kind of cranking up a

987
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: little bit.

988
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: All it took, apparently was the Buccaneers to come out

989
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: here and lay the woods right, and then the past

990
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: two weeks the Chargers have been unstoppable. Where As we

991
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 3: saw in New England give Buffalo a really solid game.

992
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: I thought that they would move the ball and make

993
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: this know. It was dominant from wire to wire and

994
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: perhaps you know Lad mccauckey extra motivated to get outable

995
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: as money money into me.

996
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: I think he's happy to be playing with Justin Herbert.

997
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: Not that Drake may would be bad, but he's in

998
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: a much better, more stable situation. More on that in

999
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: a second though. A couple of injuries in this game,

1000
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer and Elijah Molden and both got hurt. Elijah

1001
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: Mouldens their slot corner, and it'd come back for this

1002
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: game that they need it. But man, I do think

1003
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: that this matters beating up on a bad defense like

1004
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots shook, just because we hadn't seen explosive games

1005
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: like this from the Charters offense previously, and now they've

1006
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: done it two straight weeks. Even JK. Dobbins got going

1007
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: at the end. Wasn't amazing, but their success rate was

1008
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: pretty high. He was efficient overall. And yeah, man, they

1009
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: hit four hundred and twenty one yards to one point

1010
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: eighty one total dominance by the offensive line, which granted,

1011
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: it's against one of the worst pass rushers I've ever

1012
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: seen in terms of the Patriots, but that's what you do.

1013
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: You stomp on bad teams. That's what great teams do.

1014
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: Maybe the charters of the team you don't want to

1015
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: play in the AFC.

1016
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Daniel Aqualley is receiving praise during a blowout

1017
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: game as potentially the patriots best defensive lineman, I think

1018
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: you know what kind of front you're facing. But I

1019
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: will say this, it was a perfect time to activate JK.

1020
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: Dobbins from IR and get back and kind of get

1021
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: his feet underneath him again. He averaged four yards of

1022
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: carry in this game. You can just see how much

1023
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: better this offense is when they can run the ball effectively,

1024
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: which they have not been able to do without him

1025
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: for his duration of his stay on IR. So getting

1026
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: him back was big. But yeah, I would agree to you.

1027
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, herb at all data throw like they could

1028
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: do whatever they wanted offensively against this defense. It was

1029
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: elementary for them. It was just like cruise. It was

1030
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: just a Sunday cruise even though it happened on a

1031
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: Saturday for the Charges in this game, one of the

1032
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: most lopsided games I've seen all year because the Patriots

1033
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: the operation is just terrible on both sides of the ball.

1034
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's I cautioned against it

1035
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: because you are playing the Patriots, Like, I wouldn't think, Okay,

1036
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: suddenly they're gonna be a team that can just explode

1037
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: at any point.

1038
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: Fair, but I just thought it was Herbert's two best

1039
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: games of the season, perhaps in a row. To do

1040
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: it against the Broncos, a much better defense, obviously that's

1041
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: more heavily, but to do it again, they weren't having

1042
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: games like this earlier in the year, no matter who

1043
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: they were playing. Now, the Patriots played a game, unfortunately,

1044
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: that is the type of game that gets people fired. Now,

1045
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: whether that's coordinators, whether that's Drod Mayo, whether that's Elliott

1046
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: Wolf like, who knows, there's really no way to guess.

1047
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: But I I think the confusion is just obvious. The

1048
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: offense of line is so confused in terms of like

1049
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: when to snap the ball, where to go, like just

1050
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: really basic stuff. Ramandre Stevenson, according to girod Mayo, was

1051
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: going to be benched. He said it thirty minutes before

1052
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: the game on the radio. He also said it to

1053
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 1: the broadcast crew. I asked, you know, Chris Rose about it,

1054
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: He said it to them. It was actually Van Pelt

1055
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: said it came from on you know that he was

1056
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: gonna sit to start the game and then he just

1057
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: was out there. It's like it's a small thing but

1058
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: just keeps happening, like the disorganization. There's some buzz about

1059
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: people that have been around at their practices that are

1060
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: just like that.

1061
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 5: It's not professional like that. It's just sloppy and it shows.

1062
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: Tom Current said something to me that stuck with me,

1063
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: which is like, you can't be this bad on the

1064
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: field and this bad off and that's what I think

1065
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: this coaching staff is and it sucks. Like Keon White

1066
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: is out here straight up saying more or less we

1067
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: need to change the coaches, like that's some needs to change.

1068
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: It's not working, and.

1069
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: Drod Mayo again goes on the record and said, yeah,

1070
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: that was just a miscommunication.

1071
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: You know.

1072
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: We had to talk about it, and they asked White

1073
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: about it after the game. He's like, yeah, we talked

1074
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: about it, but I stand by what I said. Changes

1075
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: need to happen, and it's just it's not great. And

1076
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: I think two things can be true, Patrick, because I

1077
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit uncomfortable. It's an uncomfortable situation.

1078
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: Two things can be true. The New England crowd and

1079
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: fan base can be harder on Drod Mayo because he's

1080
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: a black head coach than I think they would be otherwise,

1081
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: and that it would be unfortunate for Mayo, given a

1082
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: really tough situation, to be fired after one year, and

1083
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: that there is something to that. And then number two,

1084
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: they can be one of the worst coach teams like

1085
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: I've ever seen that just on a basic level, it's

1086
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: not happening, and at a level that he reminds me

1087
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: more of one coach than any other. And it was

1088
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: a man that coached Nick Shooks team and it was

1089
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens, and that's that's kind of who Mayo reminds

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Speaker 1: me of. Because it's it's just a total mess. Yeah,

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00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: it's I think it's obvious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it can be.

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00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: It could be a mess, and there's hopefully another opportunity.

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00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: Uh if this is the end for Gerrod Mayo.

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00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: I I don't know that it will be. I don't know.

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00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: I would just look at the at the roster in

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00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 3: totality and asking how many how many of these guys

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00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: are going to be contributing to winning rosters years down

1099
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: the line. Yep, we've chronicled the problems up front. They

1100
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: do get seven points in this game, those seven points.

1101
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: I have nothing to do with coaching. It's Pop Douglass

1102
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: and Drake may making a play when the Chargers jump offside.

1103
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: It's one of the few Chargers mistakes that happened in

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00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: this game that ultimately lead to to seven points. And

1105
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: and so I I don't know what the long term aspirations.

1106
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: I think, you know, one year, firing after you get

1107
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: rid of a legendary head coach after a weird run

1108
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: where you've got sneak dishes across multiple venues and documentaries

1109
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: and Netflix comedy specials and.

1110
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 5: All of these it's all bad.

1111
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: It's all bad that go on where Yeah, it's but

1112
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: ultimately I think perhaps it'll be best for both parties,

1113
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: Rod Mayo and the Patriots fan base of somebody else

1114
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: is coaching.

1115
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 4: I know personally how I feel that.

1116
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: You know, I'd love for the Patriots fan base to

1117
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 3: be mad at somebody else and talking about somebody else's mistakes.

1118
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: But you know, it's he's a Patriot.

1119
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: He came up on the alleged Patriot way, and we'll

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Speaker 3: see how things turn out in the future.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Steve Weisch, our friend who's been getting

1122
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: it done lately. I mean he's on Netflix getting watched

1123
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: by twenty five million people, and then he flies over

1124
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: to Foxborough and he's in an Island game on an

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00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: NFL network. He was with Derwin James and Justin Herbert

1126
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: after the game, Justin.

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00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 7: You passed Peyton Manning for the most passing yards first

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00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 7: five years and your career.

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Speaker 4: What about setting your record and getting a playoff burn You.

1130
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 2: Know, I think it says so much about the guys

1131
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: that we've had catching those passes.

1132
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 6: You know, a great offensive line giving me time to

1133
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 6: get the ball off and guys like this getting me

1134
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 6: the ball back.

1135
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 5: So couldn't have done it without him.

1136
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 4: Humble humble right there with what humble man, humble man.

1137
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 4: All right, congratulations, guys, sorry, thank you, thank you, thank you.

1138
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: I want the intensity and the happiness which I see

1139
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: out of Derwin James after every game.

1140
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 5: It's awesome, much.

1141
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 3: Happier than Justin was about that, and so just even keeled,

1142
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, that's that's neat that I did that thing.

1143
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 5: All right? That is it from Foxborough.

1144
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: It is now time for the Sunday Drive, presented by

1145
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: the all new hybrid Toyota Camera.

1146
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 5: So Yes, the Chargers. They clinched their playoff spot.

1147
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Let's go to Buffalo where the Bills were trying to

1148
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: clench the number two seed in the AFC.

1149
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 5: Clock down to two.

1150
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 7: Here's a step back to pass, has time, rolling to

1151
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 7: his right, try to buy time.

1152
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 5: Heaves it back across the field, looking for.

1153
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 14: Ty Johnson and going up and pulling it down off

1154
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 14: the roof was Keon Coleman for the touchdown.

1155
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: That was Keon Coleman getting it done as part of

1156
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: a forty to fourteen victory by the Buffalo Bills. It

1157
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: was forty to nothing while Aaron Rodgers was in the game.

1158
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: Tyrod came in in the fourth quarter immediately led them

1159
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: to two touchdowns. If you didn't think a lot of

1160
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: people enjoyed that, you're wrong. But this is about Josh

1161
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: Allen and the Bills already. Afterwards, Sean mcdermoer indicated that

1162
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: there will be some players they want to take a

1163
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: look at in week eighteen. I don't know if we're

1164
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of Josh Allen in that game,

1165
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: because he played so well all season and in this game,

1166
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: they've earned their rest.

1167
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think it would be a mistake to

1168
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 3: have Josh go out there, because Josh Allen only knows

1169
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: one speed, and so those are only bad things that

1170
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: could happen in this situation where they didn't really even

1171
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 3: need it. Today, he saw that there was a great

1172
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: keyon Coleman touchdown folks bemoaning Amari's targets in the last

1173
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: few weeks. He had a chance to go up a

1174
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: Massa defender for a touchdown, and meanwhile the Jets could

1175
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: do absolutely nothing.

1176
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 4: They had opportunities.

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00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: There was a third and one early on in one

1178
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: of their first drives of the game where Kenny boy

1179
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: is running a drag. He's wide open, there is nobody

1180
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: within five yards of Aaron Rodgers, and he throws the

1181
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: ball at his back ankle and then is pointing to

1182
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 3: something after the play, as if as if Kenny Boyce

1183
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: should have done something differently on the play where he

1184
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: couldn't make a catch that was in the dirt. Then

1185
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers had a personal foul pushing down a defender

1186
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: after he threw an interception. It was really bad Aaron

1187
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: Rodgers game in a dominant win by the Bills.

1188
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: We actually have sound of the referee breaking essentially as

1189
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: he called the unnecessary penalty on Rogers.

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Speaker 7: Rogers had had only one interception in the last eight games,

1191
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 7: matched against fourteen touchdowns, personal foul, unnecessary roughness on.

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00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 5: Offense number eight.

1193
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 11: He's like, I've never called a late hit on the

1194
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 11: quarterback the opposite way.

1195
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: How about that?

1196
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 5: Oh man?

1197
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: When you when you think about how things end, sometimes

1198
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: they can be ugly. He had just taken the sack record.

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Speaker 1: He's been sacked, I believe more than in a quarterback

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Speaker 1: in NFL history.

1201
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: Is that right?

1202
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: And just after that he threw his interception, his second

1203
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: of the day, and then was called for an unnecessary

1204
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: roughness penalty on a day where he ends up with

1205
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve yards. It's easy to forget that

1206
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: the game was only twelve nothing at that point. It

1207
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: was actually, yeah, the Jets defense was game for a

1208
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: while here until it wasn't. But a lot of credit

1209
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: goes to Christian Benford, who's had a really nice season.

1210
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: Nice game, the defense plays well, and yeah, Josh out

1211
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: there throwing some dimes and hell, even Mitch Trubisky was

1212
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: throwing dimes late in this game. That's when that's when

1213
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, uh, it's time to just kind of move

1214
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: to the postseason.

1215
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: Shook one for one for sixty nine yards and a touchdown.

1216
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky have a day, sir. It's uh. First off,

1217
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: I can't believe they gave Nanson Romo this game. First off. Secondly,

1218
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: a good good day for the Bills to kind of

1219
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: wash away some of those defensive concerns because even the

1220
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: Patriots gave him a run for their money last week.

1221
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 2: To just put together a dominant performance like this, especially

1222
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: in the second half, that's big. But yeah, look, man,

1223
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: there's our There are scores varon Rodgers haters out there

1224
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: that very much enjoyed this today. It's a dark time

1225
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: for the Jets. They have a lot of things to

1226
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: answer in the offseason. But I'll say one thing throw

1227
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: away that gift receipt for that pendant, Josh Allen, you

1228
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: can hang on to that MVP pendant, especially if your

1229
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: rest next next week. I think you got a good

1230
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: shout at it. Now, what for the MVP yep?

1231
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So the pendant was what it was, came from

1232
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: his offensive line.

1233
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: It was like it was like an encrusted pendant with

1234
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: a seventeen. It was a jersey and it said MVP.

1235
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: Where the name goes.

1236
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: He can keep that.

1237
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 5: That's cool, Well, I mean he can.

1238
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: I mean if they say he's the you know, those

1239
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 3: are the voters that matter to Josh Allen the power

1240
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 3: of fringship.

1241
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's gonna be close.

1242
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: All precincts aren't reporting, But I don't know. I don't

1243
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: know how to.

1244
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 5: I don't know how this one's gonna go. I think

1245
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 5: we need.

1246
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 3: Nobody does, because it's it's kind of nebulous, and it's

1247
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: it's vibe based.

1248
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 4: It's it's like the college football playoff rankings.

1249
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: I like, who knows. People always say it's a narrative award.

1250
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: To a point, it's also a status award. And if

1251
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson ends up leading the NFL and yards

1252
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: per carry, yards per attempt and has the greatest QB

1253
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: rating and touchdown interception ratio in NFL history, which he

1254
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: has a good chance for.

1255
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 5: He has it right now.

1256
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: In terms of TD interception he's second all the time

1257
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: and qbrating like, those are a lot of stats and

1258
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: I think I think he'd have a chance.

1259
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 5: And who knows.

1260
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: If Joe burghes crazy like maybe that the maybe voting

1261
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: for five people have untold. I don't really know why

1262
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: that would affect it too much, but yeah, I think

1263
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: this game cements Rogers getting booted if him making jokes

1264
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: about Brick Johnson cutting him didn't because he actually was

1265
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: playing better, And just from a pure football standpoint, just

1266
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: because the market is so barren and the contract is

1267
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: so difficult, they're going to have so much did cap.

1268
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: There is a football argument that's like, actually, he might

1269
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: as well be your bridge quarterback. But I think with

1270
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: the comments that he made and the way this game

1271
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: played out there there's less of a chance. And it's

1272
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: also hilarious that Tyrod Taylor has directed three drives this

1273
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: season and he has three touchdown So Brick, you were right,

1274
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: maybe we should have gotten to Tyrod back in the day.

1275
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: That was the Sunday Drive presented by the all new

1276
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: hybrid Toyota Camra. Whatever your vibe, it's a camera vibe.

1277
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Learn more at Toyota dot com slash Camery. So we're

1278
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: done with the AFC. There bills are at the two spot.

1279
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: The three spot's gonna be determined by the AFC North winner.

1280
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: That will come down to the Steelers in the Ravens

1281
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: in Week eighteen. But what about the NFC West winner.

1282
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: We came into the week with that wide open. Let's

1283
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: go all the way back to Thursday night in a

1284
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: game that you may or may not have watched. That's

1285
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: why you got to learn about it. To Chicago.

1286
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 11: Fourth down and ten, Right here, Williams shotgun snap blitz

1287
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 11: is coming.

1288
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: Williams throws the ball up for grabs.

1289
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 15: The ball is intercepted if Roland comes near side, knocked

1290
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 15: out of bounds. The first takeaway of the game by

1291
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 15: the Seahawks could not have come in a better time.

1292
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 15: The fans head for the exits, and the Seahawks are

1293
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 15: gonna win this ball game by a score of six

1294
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 15: to three.

1295
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 5: In the words.

1296
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 11: Of Mike Holmgren many years ago, a same score in

1297
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 11: Cleveland between the Seahawks and the Browns. He said, set

1298
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 11: offensive football back thirty years.

1299
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 5: But that's okay, we'll take it.

1300
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: Ooh, great job there by our producer Eric Roberts getting

1301
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: that sell the team chant in and yeah, they they

1302
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: went hard at it during the Amazon postgame show.

1303
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 5: I don't think that's gonna happen.

1304
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the Seahawks are gonna win this division either,

1305
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: But I wanted to go in chronological order to explain

1306
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 1: how this week played out. The Seahawks are at nine

1307
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: and seven. They're well over their win total for the season.

1308
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: They basically are the team people are expected, except a

1309
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: little a little better, maybe even, but struggling on offense.

1310
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: They get a win six to three. Not a good

1311
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: day for my guy. Gino did not look healthy, but

1312
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: we were stuck watching for the last time shook. Actually

1313
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: it could maybe it won't be the last time the

1314
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: Bears killing the clock on themselves. I swear this has happened.

1315
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean, how many last drives have we watched from

1316
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: the Bears that have just been mangled? They got the

1317
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: ball back with just under six minutes to go, and

1318
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: the game finished on that interception with them on the

1319
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: forty yard line.

1320
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 5: Like it took them six minutes to get.

1321
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: To the forty yard line when the clock was really important,

1322
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: and they only ended up with one hundred and seventy

1323
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: nine yards. A lot of them was on that last drive.

1324
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: It was just a totally dominant effort by the Seahawks

1325
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: defense at least gave them a chance entering the rest

1326
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: of the weekend.

1327
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 5: I don't know what you want to say about this game, Nick.

1328
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll say this. I had a flashback to

1329
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: being in my grandparents' kitchen and considering a second helping

1330
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving dinner when I watched that final drive, because

1331
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: that looked a lot like they're lost in Detroit moments

1332
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: before Matt Eberflus was fired the next day rough for

1333
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: the Bears. It sent off a lot of people online

1334
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: saying Madden players would be better at managing clock than

1335
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: the Bears coaches have been this season, which, okay, all right,

1336
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: that's a shot, and you're taking a shot there. But

1337
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: this is kind of feels like the way the Seahawks

1338
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: have been trending for the last few weeks, which is like,

1339
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: you know, you kind of get dominated by the Packers

1340
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: once you lose Geno in that game and Sam Holliget's

1341
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: in there, and it's just like the out of steam,

1342
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: Like they started to figure it out defensively and they

1343
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: peaked and now they're just out of gas. Which I

1344
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: guess that's still better than what we thought. You talked

1345
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: about the win total of their past that so good season,

1346
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: But are there moral victories? I don't think there are,

1347
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be disappointing ultimately in the end, and

1348
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: this game kind of captured that.

1349
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gino wasn't moving well in this game and the

1350
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the injury, but he

1351
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: only attempted five throws over ten yards and most of

1352
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: those were late before that there was nothing past the

1353
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage.

1354
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 5: He was limping a little bit out there.

1355
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: Caleb, by the way, on throws over ten yards, one

1356
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: for nine for fifteen yards and in an interception. I

1357
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: can I think I know which play that was, which

1358
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: was his best play of the game down which came

1359
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: on the Was that the fourth down?

1360
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1361
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So his next best play in the game, though,

1362
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: I thought was telling, which was after he fumbled the snap,

1363
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: because it just let him be like, Okay, I gotta

1364
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: go make a play. And I do think he's has

1365
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: this weird mental thing going on where he's just trying

1366
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: to from the pocket and try almost not to make plays.

1367
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: And the best place he make, like that fourth down

1368
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: to a dunes or the one after the fumble, is

1369
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: when he just goes out there and makes Caleb plays.

1370
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he actually had a number of great throws

1371
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: in this game. One was a touchdown that was called back,

1372
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: and so you saw what makes Caleb special. But otherwise

1373
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: it was gross. I mean, they had seven drives that

1374
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: went for under twenty yards in this game.

1375
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 3: There was an opportunity to I believe Keenan Allen in

1376
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: the middle of the field that Caleb thought about. It

1377
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: just seems like the process is not go out there

1378
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: and play football. He's overthinking, trying to do something else,

1379
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: and then he'll try to do too much on plays

1380
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 3: where Gino completed like seventy eight percent of his passes

1381
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: in this game, the Seahawks just went five of thirteen

1382
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: on third down and they couldn't move the sticks when

1383
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 3: they needed to and ultimately leading to this six point

1384
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 3: game where there wasn't like this catastrophic error for them.

1385
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: They were just bad.

1386
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: They had one fumble, They did reach Bear's territory like

1387
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: four or five times out of eight or nine drives.

1388
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was just gross.

1389
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 4: And the Bears had every opportunity.

1390
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: But once again, it just seems like the poor management

1391
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 3: that we see at the end of the game is

1392
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: also happening during the beginning in the middle of the game,

1393
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: but it's a little more glaring at the end from

1394
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 3: the way things are executed, and they're people down right,

1395
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: like Thomas Brown has doesn't have the bodies staff wise

1396
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: to do the things that the Bears could have done

1397
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: earlier in the season because of the firings that happened

1398
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 3: in front of them.

1399
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 4: And so it's just bad. It was bad before, it's

1400
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 4: still bad.

1401
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: So and not only that, they're four and twelve and

1402
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,479
Speaker 1: right now they have the number nine pick in the draft.

1403
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 5: How is that even possible.

1404
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: We looked at it last year and four and thirteen

1405
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: would have had you two or three in the draft,

1406
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: and now they're nine. So it's like they're getting some

1407
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: bad luck there this game. And this is true of

1408
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: this entire week. And maybe it's my excuse making for

1409
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: why this show is going to have a Week eighteen

1410
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: like length, But this Week seventeen has never felt more

1411
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: like Week eighteen. And I think that's because of all

1412
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: the bad teams this year, because there's not gonna be

1413
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: a lot of drama in Week eighteen. So there's all

1414
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: these like finality type games and do not extend the season? Goodell,

1415
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't, I know it'd be good for but I

1416
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: do think there is something to it's such a hard

1417
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: sport that these teams, even winning teams like the Seahawks,

1418
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 1: you see it, like look at the Dolphins, like it's

1419
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: just getting late and just asking them to play another

1420
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: regular season game, Like, no, please, don't do it. I

1421
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: think seventeen is enough. Just imagine the Bears playing two

1422
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: more games this it just should be over.

1423
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: This league thrives on parody, right. The parody exists in

1424
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: Tankathon now, it's right near the top. This year, I

1425
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: don't think we've even completed that parody circle graphic that

1426
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: we usually complete every year.

1427
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 5: No, this weird year.

1428
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: This is a very non parent you know, there hasn't

1429
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: been much parody this year. It has been a year

1430
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: of terrible teams. Everything is built towards not making that happen.

1431
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: But even good teams, I mean it, by the end

1432
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: of the year on some heaviness to them. I think

1433
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: that's actually true about a team that's that's won five

1434
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: straight games. So yeah, Saturday Night Rams knew that if

1435
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: they won the game against the Cardinals, they wouldn't clinch

1436
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: at the time, but they would up their playoff probability

1437
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: to about ninety nine percent.

1438
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 5: It's almost cruel what's happening to the Seahawks.

1439
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: They're just watching themselves die slowly, but at least that

1440
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: they won. They did their part this week, and they

1441
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: watched on Saturday night and they just hope for the

1442
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals to come through for them, because then we'd have

1443
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: a nice little Week eighteen winning in game?

1444
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 5: Would they get it to Sofi and goal from the five?

1445
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 8: Tyler looks do his sideline justures with his hands.

1446
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Junior in motion from his life. Here comes

1447
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 5: the blitz start of the end zone.

1448
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 15: It is Enner second off the chesty attended target, but.

1449
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 5: Divings Ter play.

1450
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 15: Have the front left pylon shot McBride hung up.

1451
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 5: In the air and the Rams clinched.

1452
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 7: The game with back to back interceptions.

1453
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: That was JB Long our friend on KSPN, and a

1454
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: little cameo there by.

1455
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 5: Maurice Jones Drew, Wow, we're trying to get Maurice on

1456
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 5: the Monday Night recaps putting screws do him. He's putting,

1457
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 5: he's playing coy.

1458
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: So if you're listening Adam on Twitter and say you

1459
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: want to hear him because you're such big MJD fans

1460
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: on Monday Night trying to trying to book them, but

1461
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: it's tough. He's a star, so is a Kello Witherspoon.

1462
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: A star in his role, and he has stepped in

1463
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: he was on the street at the beginning of the

1464
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: season into that starting lineup. Him and Darius Williams has

1465
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: taken over those those starting jobs and provided some stability.

1466
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: And he made a great diving catch on a ball

1467
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: that went off poor Trey McBride's head. It was a

1468
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: little heartbreaking to see Trey McBride after this game because

1469
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: he's had a tough season. He fight gets a touchdown

1470
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: in this game. He's an All Pro candidate, one of

1471
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: the best players at his position in the league. Goes

1472
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: twelve for one to twenty three. But yes, the final

1473
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: decisive play in this game bounces off his helmet, doesn't

1474
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: get his head around quick enough on a play. There

1475
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: was some quick pressure on Kyler Murray and the Rams

1476
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: win thirteen to nine. I don't know why I was surprised,

1477
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: because this was such a way for the Seahawks season

1478
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: to end. It felt very fitting, and it felt very

1479
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: fitting for the Cardinals to lose this way, and yet

1480
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I kind of thought Kyler was playing

1481
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: well and they were moving the ball better, and that

1482
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: they at least were gonna score here and make the

1483
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: Rams try to tie the game with a field goal.

1484
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: It was not to be, and the Rams are ten

1485
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,439
Speaker 1: and six despite their offense struggling so much in this game.

1486
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and those offensive struggles are ones that I think

1487
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 3: at a certain point because you look back at that

1488
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 3: game against Buffalo and it's like, well, the Rams can

1489
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: do this. I've said for weeks the Rams are gonna

1490
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: have this puncher's chance, but the players just weren't there.

1491
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford I did have a nice run in this game,

1492
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 3: but look to be having some trouble getting away from

1493
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 3: this Cardinals pass rush. And as you know, all credit

1494
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: to Witherspoon for making that play, but the Cardinals could

1495
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: have very easily won this game if Trey McBride is

1496
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 3: able to separate there.

1497
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 4: Maybe there's a flag on that play.

1498
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 3: I know McBride would would have liked to get the

1499
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: holding call, but ultimately he gets his head around and

1500
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: gets his hands on the football, he catches it. And

1501
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: we're talking about Cardinals rams with an opportunity to I mean,

1502
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: excuse me, Seahawks Rams with an opportunity to settle it.

1503
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 4: Instead.

1504
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 3: It's another one of these late season losses for the

1505
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 3: Cardinals where they're so close. But whether it's offense, whether

1506
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: it's defense, and a lot of times it's Kyler turning

1507
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: the ball over. I don't I know that there's folks

1508
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: that say that Kyler could have put a better ball there.

1509
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: He had Train McBride in the face. Yeah, regardless of

1510
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: the exact position of where the football is, he hit

1511
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 3: him in the face.

1512
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1513
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: Kim Kitchen's had a big interception earlier in this game.

1514
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: And if it sounds like we're being a little hard

1515
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: on the Rams, they were doubled up in terms of

1516
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: first downs in this game. They gave up four hundred

1517
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: yards and yet Nick, to give them credit, their pass

1518
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: rush was pretty great, and especially in big moments, Verse

1519
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: and Fisk and Turner and Young, who have really been

1520
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: such a story for them, held up enough to let

1521
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: the offense get into the game eventually and get the

1522
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: win thirteen to nine.

1523
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this team is becoming a chameleon because they've won

1524
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: in so many different ways this year. They've looked bad,

1525
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: really bad early in the season. They figured it out

1526
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: to get back to five hundred. Then I feel like

1527
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 2: they spent all of their offensive energy in the shootout

1528
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: win over the Bills, because in the last three games

1529
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: they followed under twenty points each time. But they've won

1530
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: all three games because now suddenly they're a defensive team.

1531
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: I guess, twelve to six over the Niners, nineteen to

1532
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: nine over the Jets, thirteen to nine over the Cardinals,

1533
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: And it starts with that front you just mentioned. That's

1534
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: why I love their draft. When they selected Fisk and

1535
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: Verse in the first two rounds, I thought it was

1536
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: a great way to build from the interior on the

1537
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, where they were lacking in

1538
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: the past. And if this is who they are, the

1539
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: only thing that we're missing now is playoff implications and

1540
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: what would have been kind of a gross low scoring

1541
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 2: off against the Seahawks next week, based on how the

1542
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: Seahawks played against the Bears. But congrats to the Rams.

1543
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: You're a ten and six now with one game left

1544
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: to play, And I think this is one of those

1545
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: stories that despite the success they had last year, when

1546
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: we looked at them in Week four this year, nobody

1547
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: would have thought they would have been here at this point.

1548
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: Fair here.

1549
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 5: They are fair.

1550
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: They scored forty four in that game against the Bills.

1551
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: They have scored exactly forty four in the three games since.

1552
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 5: And McVeigh wasn't really that happy after this game.

1553
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue, the athlete, kind of pointed out to me,

1554
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: and I went back and watched it, and yeah, he

1555
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: was very clipped with his answers, and you could say

1556
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: he was saying the right thing that the years in

1557
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: his league has taught him that he wants to enjoy it.

1558
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: But you can tell there's a little bit of frustration there.

1559
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: Under two hundred and sixty yards on offense for a

1560
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: couple of straight weeks, and it's actually not that different

1561
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: than a lot of their season where the defense really

1562
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: held on for them to win games. There was a

1563
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: twenty to fifteen game against the Raiders. There was that

1564
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: game against the Saints where they didn't score in the

1565
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: first half. The first Seahawks game, their offense did not

1566
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: play well the whole game, and the defense held on

1567
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: until Matthew Stafford made some magic late. So you never know.

1568
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: This team is chaotic, it's unpredictable. Maybe they crank it

1569
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: up one more time. I'm very curious to see how

1570
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: where the NFL puts this game. Maybe you'll have an

1571
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: answer by the end of this show.

1572
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 3: By the way, the Cardinals did almost have the ball

1573
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: for forty minutes. Yeah, I think the Rams only got

1574
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 3: fifty four offensive plays, so that may have played a

1575
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: role as well.

1576
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 4: And they did a lot of that without James Connors too.

1577
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,879
Speaker 1: That's the thing is Kyler had five or six awesome

1578
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: throws in this game, and he ran the ball well.

1579
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: He keeps saying he wants to run more. He wants

1580
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: to run more next year. Jonathan Gannon had a bad decision.

1581
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: I thought at one point to kick a field goal,

1582
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 1: he ends up having to go for a much longer

1583
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: fourth down Later, I thought McVeigh after a really long

1584
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals drive, made a bad decision not to go for

1585
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: it on fourth and inches. I'm a little worried how

1586
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: Cooper Cupp has kind of not produced late late in

1587
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: the season. He's clearly not where he was. But it's

1588
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: just putting too much on Pukinakua. So yeah, the Rams,

1589
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: they went into Sunday needing a handful of victories and

1590
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: strength of victory. As we're taping this, we're still waiting

1591
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: to see what happens on Sunday night. So let's go

1592
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: to the NFC East where the Eagles still had some

1593
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: business to do.

1594
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 8: They go to episcol formation. It goes back to Barkley.

1595
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 8: Barkley breaks the tackle. He's at the forty, he's at

1596
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 8: the thirty. He has at the twenty five yard line.

1597
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 8: He has done at the twenty five yard line. Let's

1598
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 8: see what he has right now as he goes to

1599
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 8: the twenty five yard line.

1600
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 10: He has just because the two thousand yard worship bark

1601
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 10: Shake on one.

1602
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 8: Barkley goes into NFL history.

1603
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 1: Love that Merril Reeze, Mike Quick wip. Eagles went forty

1604
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: one to seven. Nice touch by Nick Sirianni to take

1605
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: a time out. It's like kind of an NBA style

1606
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: where you take the stars out of the game with

1607
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 1: two minutes left so the whole crowd could really cheer.

1608
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: I hope that was Nick Sirianni leaving Saquon in for

1609
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: his thirty first carry to break two thousand so he

1610
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: can rest him next week. We'll see, because he's only

1611
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: one hundred plus yards away from breaking the rushing record.

1612
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: I also like he broke twenty sixteen games.

1613
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 3: Yes, it was so all the asterisk folks out there

1614
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 3: will have a chance to talk about it with Brock

1615
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: Bowlers and Mike Ditka here in a little bit. But yeah,

1616
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 3: he does it in sixteen game. It's and just an

1617
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 3: incredible season for Saquon. In a game that seemed dicey

1618
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 3: at the start where Cooper Rush has come out, he

1619
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: survives a pick six from CJGJ who really just caught

1620
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 3: him peeking on an inbreaking route and comes comes up

1621
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 3: with a pick six. But Cooper Rush comes right back

1622
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: down the field. He gets a touchdown pass to Jalen

1623
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 3: Tolbert on Quinnon Mitchell, and you're thinking, oh, this is

1624
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:59,560
Speaker 3: going to be The Eagles absolutely washed them out after that, including.

1625
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 4: Some of the guys who who couldn't make key plays.

1626
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: Late in the loss of the Washington Commanders, Dvante Smith

1627
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 3: had two touchdowns, could have verily easily been three touchdowns.

1628
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: I already talked about CJGJ. He got another pick after that,

1629
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: and remember he got run from the game for multiple

1630
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 3: personal foul calls.

1631
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 4: And this is it. This is what this Eagles team

1632
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 4: can be.

1633
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: Despite this late season spoiler Dallas team that we believed

1634
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 3: again in the air in the Carolina Panthers against them,

1635
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 3: they actually kind of blew them out. The Tampa Bay

1636
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 3: Buccaneers their season hinges on these last couple of weeks

1637
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 3: because they couldn't get a win against this Cowboys team.

1638
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 3: And then they come in there to Philadelphia against their

1639
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 3: backup quarterback and get blown out forty one to seven.

1640
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, surprising and a great show of force that DeVante

1641
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: Smith could go six for one to twenty, gets a

1642
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns. Saquon gets one to sixty seven in

1643
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: the game to get over two thousand and Yeah. Kenny

1644
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,440
Speaker 1: Pickett who actually left the game after taking a painkilling

1645
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: injection for his ribs according to Mike Florio before the game,

1646
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: and at halftime, and they're running in with the touchbush

1647
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: a little dicey there. He scores a touchdown. Then Tanner

1648
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: McKee comes in. This line might be even better than

1649
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: Trubisky shook. He only threw four passes, he had two

1650
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: touchdowns for fifty four yards. He's feeding Davanta and aj

1651
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,839
Speaker 1: Brown's fantasy owners. Way to go, Tanner McKee.

1652
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, those of you who thought that the Eagles might

1653
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 2: have a tough time because they're backup quarterback. You got

1654
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: both backups and they still dominated. No. I mean, this

1655
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: is one of those wins that you expect from a

1656
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: team that's superior, but it's a rivalry games, so you

1657
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 2: never know. And yet they came out and just dominated

1658
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 2: front to back. And you know, like you just said,

1659
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: sakuon breaks two thousand rushing yards. That's fun. I would

1660
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 2: like to see him play next week just for history's sake,

1661
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. You're one of the playoffs.

1662
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 5: I really hope they don't.

1663
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: I just think that's so stupid and short sighted. What

1664
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: a great advantage it is to know your seeding when

1665
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: you don't have the advantage that the top seed will

1666
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: have in terms of the bye week, and you can

1667
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: rest a guy who needs to be fresh and has

1668
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:00,879
Speaker 1: had a huge workload. I personally will be be shocked

1669
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 1: if they go for the record.

1670
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 5: Also, it's not gonna play. I think the seventeenth game thing.

1671
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, but you're going for a record, where

1672
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 1: like you, you would need the seventeenth game to get it. Anyways,

1673
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: he's at three hundred and forty five carries that the

1674
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: stats of guys who go that high, it's usually not

1675
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: good for the rest of their career, so let's just

1676
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: save them. It just seems so obvious. I really think

1677
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: they will, Actually, I really think they will. They're an

1678
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: anachally analytically minded organization. I think they will sit him.

1679
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 3: It is the only sensical play to not play Sakwon Barkley.

1680
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 3: You could make the case then having him in to

1681
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 3: get this carry to go over two thousand yeards, I

1682
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: think might have a questionable call as well. But it's

1683
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 3: good to hit the number. It's good for the offensive line,

1684
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 3: it's good for Saquon. You heard the explosion from the

1685
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 3: fans there in Philadelphia that got to see it at home.

1686
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 3: I think it may be worth doing just to have

1687
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 3: Saquon be able to celebrate with those folks. The link

1688
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 3: if this is a road game, and it may be

1689
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: a little bit different, but yeah, don't.

1690
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 4: The game was you.

1691
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 3: Know these the seventeenth game was was added for a

1692
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 3: whole bunch of reasons that had nothing to do with

1693
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 3: records and a whole lot to do with, you know,

1694
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 3: compensation for people who aren't Saquon Barkley.

1695
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 4: Right, I think it's fine.

1696
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: Saquon's compensation is finally set here you know, we had

1697
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 3: some some issues with that previously.

1698
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 4: Why play well.

1699
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: Also, life is short and they got to do something

1700
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: really special that they'll remember for the rest of their lives.

1701
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: And it was a little risky, but you got it done.

1702
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: To get to have to get over one sixty five

1703
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: to get it done is kind of amazing. He's at

1704
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: almost twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage. It's just a

1705
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: magical pickup. I'm really looking forward to watching them in

1706
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They're gonna have the two seed. We have

1707
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: to wait to see and find out who they could

1708
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: be playing. A few different options there. Let's let's take

1709
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: a break. There are a couple of games here after

1710
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: the break that maybe didn't have the playoff implications that

1711
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, the previous games had, but there were there

1712
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: was a division that still needs to be decided. We're

1713
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna end this show with NFC South. Oh after we

1714
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: take a trip to the Superdome and just kind of

1715
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: get a couple games out of the way.

1716
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 5: Powers Ad Myers both to the right. Shotgun. O'Connell's looking

1717
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 5: that way.

1718
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 14: He's scrambling, he's trying to escape the pocket he's throwing. Oh,

1719
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 14: there's a wide open man in the end zone back pylon,

1720
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 14: no signal yet for Tucker touchdown.

1721
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 5: Raiders.

1722
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 14: Oh Connall, let it get out of the pocket. He

1723
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 14: was looking and looking that Tucker was wide open. That's

1724
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 14: six for the Raiders and they capitalize on the Jack

1725
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 14: Jones picks for a touchdown.

1726
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: Drank up the Las Vegas Raiders two game winning streak,

1727
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: ruining their draft position. Now they should be trying to

1728
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: win for Antonio Pierce and Aidan O'Connell should be out

1729
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: there trying to prove my most lukewarm take right, which

1730
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: is that Aiden O'Connell is an NFL quarterback and that

1731
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna have like a nine year career as a

1732
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: perfectly solid NFL backup.

1733
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 5: And that's an excellent.

1734
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: Outcome for a backup quarterback. Taken in the fourth round.

1735
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: And I think he's putting it on tape. I think

1736
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: he knows how to play, and I think he played

1737
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: really well for most of this game. Raiders win twenty

1738
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: five to ten. That's their fourth win of the year.

1739
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: Saints fall to five and eleven. That was Jason Horowitz

1740
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: on KRLV, by the way, and one of the more

1741
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: surprising things you just never know shook in a day

1742
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: like this is that you can watch a Raiders Saints

1743
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: game on your second screen in the morning, and you

1744
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 1: could say the quarterback play in this game between Rattler

1745
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: and AOC in the first half was awesome. They both

1746
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: were playing really, really well and AOC mostly kept it

1747
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: going and Rattler didn't.

1748
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 5: And that's why you look at the final score.

1749
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: And that's the story of the Saints. And then Spencer

1750
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: Ratler experience. You know, just when you think he's starting

1751
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: to build a little bit of steam, he throws a

1752
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 2: couple of picks that makes second guess. And have we

1753
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 2: ever seen a team that feels they've already fired their coach,

1754
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: that feels more like they're gonna make more changes in

1755
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: the offseason than these Saints. Like you're playing a Raiders

1756
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 2: team that, yeah they're coming off the high of winning

1757
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: last week, but it's still the Raiders. It's still you

1758
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 2: let am Mirramdula go twenty for one fifteen on you.

1759
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: This is a team that has struggled in that area

1760
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 2: for decent portions of this season. I mean, I don't know,

1761
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,879
Speaker 2: I not to go with losers first in this situation,

1762
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: but I'm just like Saints, but what do you booked

1763
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: your flights to can Kun Already.

1764
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: It's a tough it's been a tough season. They don't

1765
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: have many offensive players out there with Spencer Rattler for

1766
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: him to throw the ball to, and Juwan Johnson had

1767
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: a big drop in this game.

1768
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 5: There were other mistakes.

1769
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: I came up with the scenario that could possibly get

1770
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,919
Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis fire that it would have to be something drastic,

1771
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: which would be losing in primetime and an embarrassing shutout

1772
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: and then losing to the Raiders convincingly at home. Yeah,

1773
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: and it happened. He hit the parlay, so we'll see.

1774
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: I think that there's great mystery there. The biggest story

1775
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: of this game where the records that brock Bauers set.

1776
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 5: There's a lot of them.

1777
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:07,799
Speaker 1: Number one, he set the all time receiving yards record

1778
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 1: for rookie tight ends and as you mentioned, it broke

1779
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: Mike Dicka's record, which was a record for over sixty plus.

1780
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 4: Years nineteen sixty one.

1781
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 5: That's incredible when you have a record that long.

1782
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: It's like Norman van Brocklan still has the single game

1783
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: passing yard record, which is.

1784
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 5: Crazy if you think about it.

1785
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're adjusting for inflation, Dicka going for

1786
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: that much back then is like seventeen hundred yards. He

1787
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: was never the same again because he had so many injuries.

1788
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: Still had a Hall of Fame career, but never a

1789
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: season like that. So that's really impressive, But that's not it.

1790
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: He also brock Bauers broke the PUKA rookie receptions record

1791
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: for anyone.

1792
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 5: That's pretty cool.

1793
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: So receiving yards at tight end, he had already broken

1794
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 1: the tight end record for receptions like weeks ago rookie receptions.

1795
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 5: And then I think this is an underrated one.

1796
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: In the long history of the Raiders Oakland, Las Vegas,

1797
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: Los Angele, no one has ever caught more passes. Brock

1798
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: Bowers broke that record today too, and he did it

1799
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: in a tight little sixteen games, breaking Darren Waller's record

1800
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: from a few years ago. So Brock Bowers, I love

1801
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: you man. The celebration in the lock in the very

1802
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: crowded Saints locker room was cool. They all were like

1803
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: really celebrating with Bowers. So a nice movement for the Raiders.

1804
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again a message that if you don't get

1805
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: your quarterback, if you fall back in the draft sometimes

1806
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, oh, well, we'll just have to

1807
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: take this guy who maybe going to Campton one day,

1808
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 3: and you live with that.

1809
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 2: You need to do that again. Can you do that

1810
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: two years in a row?

1811
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1812
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 5: No, you can't.

1813
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,839
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan was staying after the game. According to the reporters,

1814
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: they are taking pictures with his family on the field.

1815
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 5: So it could be his last game.

1816
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: He said, it's not up to him that he plans

1817
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: to play football next year, whether it's with us. He

1818
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: really hopes it's in the Black and Gold, but that'll

1819
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: be up to the Saints obviously.

1820
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 5: Could be a lot of changes there.

1821
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: Let's go to another game which is going to have

1822
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: a big impact on draft seeding, draft positioning. It's the Jaguars,

1823
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,480
Speaker 1: It's the Titans. It's in Jackson, empty backfield.

1824
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 5: Mac drops the throw he's looking, fires it to the.

1825
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 14: Left side Portlands on Cot touchdown Brian Thomas Junior for

1826
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 14: the score.

1827
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 5: Where are teams gonna.

1828
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,440
Speaker 4: Learn to not cover Brian Thomas Junior.

1829
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 7: And man coverage?

1830
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1831
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: Maybe next season. It seems absolutely crazy. Nice ball there

1832
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 1: by Mac Jones. I watched way too much of this game.

1833
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: That was Frank Brangy and Jeff Logoman on w j

1834
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 1: XL because we got this picks competition on game debut,

1835
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: and I've kind of felt like, for some reason in

1836
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: my heart that this was gonna be the swing game,

1837
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: and I was wrong.

1838
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 5: I picked the wrong team.

1839
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: And Mac Jones did not play well in this game,

1840
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: but his two touchdown throws.

1841
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 5: Were both awesome plays.

1842
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: That was a great throw by him, great catch by Thomas,

1843
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: and then the first one to Parker Washington was an

1844
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: incredible toe tap by Washington. Jaguars win twenty to thirteen

1845
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: in a game they got out thirteen to nothing, shook

1846
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: and never looked back, at least not too much.

1847
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of one of those weird games where

1848
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 2: you're like, both these teams are not very good. Both

1849
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 2: of them are playing with backup quarterbacks, but one team

1850
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: has an awesome receiver and his name's Brian Thomas Junior.

1851
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 2: Like they did whatever they could to get hitting the

1852
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: ball as much as possible, kind of like Milik Neighbors

1853
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: earlier in the show. They ran an ender like a

1854
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 2: jet sweep to him as well, and it picked up

1855
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: a big game that proceeded a touchdown the touchdown pass

1856
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: to Parker Washington. Their offense moved enough to put those

1857
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: points on the board, and then they just kind of

1858
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: held on. Josh Hines Allen had a couple of really

1859
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: nice splash plays in a row. The weird thing about

1860
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: this is for two teams that came in at three

1861
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: and twelve, they had a lot of energy, Like, I know,

1862
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: you're playing for your job obviously, right, you're playing for

1863
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: future employment and everything else and for pride and whatever else.

1864
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: But they were fired up and it was ran like

1865
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: crazy in Jacksonville. The conditions weren't great. Travis etn should

1866
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: have had a touchdown run and he slipped as soon

1867
01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: as he got through the hole, which is a big

1868
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: bummer for because I want to see him score. But

1869
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 2: they played with a ton of passion and it felt

1870
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 2: good to see them, you know, come away victorious, get

1871
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: the season sweep with the Titans, and you know do

1872
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: it with by leaning you know on Brian Tom.

1873
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1874
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to the fans that stayed for that game.

1875
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: It was tough conditions, a lot of empty seats. But

1876
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars fall down to fifth according to Tank Thon

1877
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: in terms of the draft, the Titans are up to second.

1878
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: The Patriots are potentially playing the Bills back up next week,

1879
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: so that I'll give the Titans something a root for.

1880
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 5: They could wind up with the number one pick.

1881
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: Either way, they're in a good position if they lose

1882
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 1: next week. I believe against the Colts, I don't know

1883
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: if we need to say too much. Brian Thomas eighty catches,

1884
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: eleven and eighty one yards and ten touchdowns.

1885
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 3: That's a solid rookie year. And we look at what

1886
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 3: neighbors did. Jayden might win the award. How did LSU

1887
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: lose three games last year?

1888
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: Right?

1889
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: I have no IDEA great point? All right, let's get

1890
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: to the NFC South. So we saved this for the

1891
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 1: end because obviously Sunday Night five football involves the Falcons.

1892
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: It's pretty simple either the Bucks or the Falcons are

1893
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: gonna win the NFC South. The Falcons have the edge

1894
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,759
Speaker 1: entering the week. The Bucks, though, they have a chance

1895
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: here because it's really a three team for two spot

1896
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: situation between the Bucks, the Falcons, and the Commanders. So

1897
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: even if the Bucks didn't win the division, they know

1898
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: they might have a chance at this wild card. Obviously,

1899
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: they had to get the win over the Panthers. Let's

1900
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: go to Raymond James Stadium.

1901
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 3: That hacker hasn't plucked temper Bace got it, stupid score chan.

1902
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 7: J Russell, Buccaneers doing it from all angles.

1903
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 5: Chefs kiss.

1904
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,480
Speaker 4: It's the Duccaneers.

1905
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 5: I love it.

1906
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Great job there by Patrick. A professional host like Patrick

1907
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: or Ion Eagle would have set that up a lot

1908
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: better by telling the audio audience that there's a duck

1909
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: on the field right before the Panthers are setting up

1910
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: to punt. And yeah, that punt block is what made

1911
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: this thing a laugher, But it was on the way.

1912
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Forty eight to fourteen an offensive masterclass by the Buccaneers

1913
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield. Five incompletions, five touchdowns. Bucky Irving was

1914
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards from scrimmage in the first half

1915
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: of this game, goes over one hundred and seventy yards

1916
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: from scrimmage total for the second time this season against

1917
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: the Panthers. He's had an entire season just against the Panthers.

1918
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: Forty eight to fourteen, and I've never seen a quarterback

1919
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: play better than Bryce Young in a game that they

1920
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 1: lost by thirty four points. But it really didn't matter.

1921
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: This is what the Buccaneers can do. And I don't

1922
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: even think I'm test driving this case. This is the

1923
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: case making shook. The Buccaneers are the team you don't

1924
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: want to play in the NFC and by and now,

1925
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: if you say that, you have to kind of say, well,

1926
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: there's only you can only say one of those teams

1927
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: are the teams, and they can't be one of the

1928
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: best teams. So basically the options are like Rams, Bucks, Packers,

1929
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: or even you know, whatever happens with the Falcons Comminters.

1930
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 1: You have to kind of pick one of those teams.

1931
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: And I say the Buccaneers are that team because to me,

1932
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers they'll have their down games defensively, but I

1933
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: do think the best Buccaneers game on offense is right

1934
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: there with the Bengals and the Bills and the Ravens,

1935
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: and I don't want to play that team. And that's

1936
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: who the Bucks are to me. And I know this

1937
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: was against the Panthers, but we've seen it against a

1938
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: lot of teams.

1939
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Especially when you go when you have a guy like

1940
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 2: and I know his name is Bucky, but today he's

1941
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: Ducky Irving from scrimmage. I had to squeeze that one

1942
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: in there. No. I think that if you look at

1943
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: the way they played against the Cowboys, like they couldn't piece

1944
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: it together right, and then suddenly they explode for a

1945
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: touchdown drive and they nearly get down there again at

1946
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: the end of the game, and it shows you that

1947
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: like you can't count the mountain, that they can just

1948
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: sneak up on you and explode at any time, and

1949
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 2: that's what makes you a scary team in the playoffs,

1950
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: like you said, so, I'm kind of on board with that.

1951
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm more on board with that after what we saw

1952
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: with the Packers today against the Vikings that I might

1953
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: have been a week ago. And when you have Baker

1954
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 2: Mayfield go twenty seven to thirty two for three fifty

1955
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 2: nine and five touchdowns, that kind of justifies it. Which,

1956
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 2: by the way, you said probably the best game from

1957
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback I've seen, and then paused. I was like,

1958
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 2: is he gonna get Baker Flowers and then you pivoted

1959
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: to Bryce Young.

1960
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 5: Oh.

1961
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: No, Baker, Baker was incredible. Let's throw up his passing

1962
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,799
Speaker 1: chart from today. This was one of his best games

1963
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: of the season. Anytime he missed the throw I was

1964
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: stunned because he was just so accurate. Most of it

1965
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: was to the middle of the field, but he was

1966
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: really spreading it all around three hundred and fifty nine

1967
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: yards five touchdowns. It's just some laser shots over the

1968
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: middle was so sharp, really well protected, it must be said.

1969
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: And that's been a huge part of their four formula

1970
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: all season and they ran block really well today. But

1971
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: the vision and the patients out of Bucky Irving combined

1972
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: with the accuracy of Baker is just like, this team's

1973
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: awesome when it's rolling. It's not gonna do this every

1974
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: week or else they'd be fifteen to two, but they

1975
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: are capable of doing this.

1976
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole offensive option playbook was available against the

1977
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 3: Panthers team where Bucky Evern goes a thousand yards rushing

1978
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 3: on the season, two hundred and sixty five of those

1979
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 3: this season have come against the Carolina Panthers here in

1980
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 3: the past five weeks.

1981
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 4: And so that you know everything's available to them.

1982
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: They beat this divisional opponent at home when they needed to.

1983
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 4: They can do this. They can also be.

1984
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 3: The team that struggled against the Dallas Cowboys in a

1985
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 3: game that they needed a couple weeks ago.

1986
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was their only loss in a while.

1987
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Although they struggled against the Panthers, they probably should have

1988
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: lost that game in overtime a while ago, and it

1989
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: was big that they pulled that out. Their defense is

1990
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: to me the bigger concern. They got the Panthers off

1991
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: the field quite a bit. They were pressuring Bryce Young

1992
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: more than he normally is. But man, like I said,

1993
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: he ended up with two hundred and three yards and

1994
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: two touchdowns in this game on twenty eight throws. Like

1995
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: the first drive of the game, he hits a thirty

1996
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: one yard slot fade, just a beautiful throw to feel.

1997
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: In second throw of the game, he's backing up while

1998
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: he's under total pressure, gets slammed while he hits Jalen Coker.

1999
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: And then the third throw of the game is an

2000
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: absolutely perfect red zone I mean, a seventeen yard throw

2001
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: to thiel In over the top, and it's just like

2002
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: he can do it all. And he had a number

2003
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: of really nice throws in this game. Now, they had

2004
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: some empty drives, but they had absolutely no rushing game.

2005
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: Juba Hrbard is now out for the season, and he

2006
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: was under a lot of pressure. Just that story is continuing.

2007
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Bryce right now is kind of like I am with

2008
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 1: Drake may He's He's not the only thing that matters

2009
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: with them, But if you're a Panthers fan, you just

2010
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: want to see him continue to play well and maybe

2011
01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:00,040
Speaker 1: they don't hurt their draft seeding. That happened the the

2012
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: Buccaneers got a ton of yak in this game. Evans

2013
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: had a big game, eight for ninety seven and two touchdowns,

2014
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: and he really might do it Patrick. He is now

2015
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 1: eighty five yards away. This is also his sixth season

2016
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: with ten or more touchdowns, which I think is pretty cool.

2017
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Not that he needs to add much to his Hall

2018
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: of Fame case, but he's doing it.

2019
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 4: He's in.

2020
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, he really is.

2021
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 4: And he was before the season.

2022
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 5: To me, Yeah, I think he was too.

2023
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,719
Speaker 1: It's tricky when you haven't made a lot of all pros,

2024
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: which he hasn't, but plenty of guys have made it

2025
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: in without those if they've stacked up seasons like he has.

2026
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: Jalen McMillan, by the way, inducked him into the Fantasy

2027
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Football Playoff Hall of Fame. In terms of if you

2028
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: picked him up, I guarantee you he is on a

2029
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: million championship teams two touchdowns. Good job to all the

2030
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: owners out there that played him throughout. Good job by you,

2031
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond. Once again we say goodbye to you before

2032
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: we move on to a very important Sunday.

2033
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 4: Night football game. Play the game, guys, I enjoyed my time.

2034
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, he's getting it done with Scott Pioli.

2035
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: Let's go to Sunday night football in Landover and places

2036
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 1: ready to explode.

2037
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 10: Two forty five to go in overtime, third and goal

2038
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 10: at the two, Jayden and the gun.

2039
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 4: Rodriguez to his right to tight end. Still up, here's

2040
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 4: the staff. Game's gonna throw forward. He does think he

2041
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 4: is one seconds.

2042
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 5: The playoff tuck down walk again they went over time.

2043
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 5: We'll see you.

2044
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 4: Freaking Jimmy, this is a missile.

2045
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 12: But Tayda Tallils that was a missile and I want

2046
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 12: to go to the playoffs, fram Weinstein and London Fletcher

2047
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 12: w b ig one of the calls in the year

2048
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 12: for one of the moments of the year.

2049
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders have done it. They come all the

2050
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: way back from a miserable season and dan Quinn's first

2051
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 1: year with Jade and Daniels. They are playoff bound with

2052
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 1: a thirty to twenty four overtime victory over the Falcons

2053
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: and Nick. When I think back on this season, I

2054
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: will think about so many different signature Jadeen Daniels moment.

2055
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 5: It feels like he is the.

2056
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: Center of this season, even though they're a six or

2057
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 1: a seven seed in the NFC. It's the win over

2058
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: the Bengals on Monday Night football. It's the Hail Mary

2059
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: against Chicago, which started the Chicago tailspin, by the way,

2060
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 1: and kickstarted this Washington run. It's the victory over the

2061
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: Eagles after that fourth and long last week, and then yes,

2062
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: a thirty to twenty four victory over the Falcons out

2063
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: dueling Michael Pennix, who was up and down but pulled

2064
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: off some jade and Daniels magic of his own with

2065
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: some fourth and longs to force overtime. But when that

2066
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: coin flip landed on Washington, and maybe I'm being a

2067
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 1: little emotional because I had the Falcons winning this game.

2068
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 5: It's crucial. It was to me. I'm rooting for the Falcons.

2069
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: But when I saw that coin flip land on tails

2070
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,879
Speaker 1: for the Commanders, as like, there's no way the Falcons

2071
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 1: are stopping them here.

2072
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 5: They're not going to force the field goal.

2073
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 1: I've watched this entire game, and I've watched this movie

2074
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: over and over and again. It's amazing that a rookie

2075
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: quarterback just feels that bankable in the biggest moments.

2076
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a game, I mean, what an experience for

2077
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: Commanders fans. And this is the fitting way for them

2078
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 2: to reach the postseason. It truly is because of the

2079
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: moments that you just described, the Hail Mary, the game

2080
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 2: against the Eagles recently last week. It's just it's been

2081
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: a magical season for this team. With a rookie quarterback

2082
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: who was not the consensus number one. He was the

2083
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 2: next guy off the board. You didn't know what you

2084
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 2: were gonna get, and we saw it early in the

2085
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 2: season and it ends not for the year, but it

2086
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 2: ends with a big landmark moment him getting them to

2087
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 2: the playoffs by overcoming what was kind of a bit

2088
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 2: of a fourth quarter meltdown. They had the holding penalty

2089
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: on the goal line, which wiped out a touchdown, they

2090
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 2: have to settle for a field goal, they give up

2091
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: that drive to tie the game, and then they go

2092
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 2: three and out immediately after. You know, there was a

2093
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 2: period there that when the Falcons were driving down the

2094
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 2: field late where I almost sent you a text and

2095
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: sent too much time for Jaden because they were within

2096
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 2: range outside two minutes. Obviously, he doesn't end up with

2097
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: that much time, but that just speaks to the power

2098
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 2: of this kid. And imagine that he brings to the Commanders.

2099
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 2: And we saw it in overtime and.

2100
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: It's a team game, and the Commanders have found a

2101
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 1: way to get just enough stops. It's a complimentary game.

2102
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 1: They come out of halftime down seventeen to seven. Strange

2103
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: first half because I thought Washington was really getting whatever

2104
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: they wanted. But they had a really nice play called

2105
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: where Kaden Ellis intercepted Daniels. They confused them with kind

2106
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: of a designer look and it worked, and they did

2107
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: force a couple punts went because of a bunch of

2108
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: penalties on Washington, but they were running the ball so well.

2109
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels ends up with one hundred and twenty seven

2110
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: yards on sixteen carries. Just felt like he could get

2111
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 1: it anytime he wanted to on the ground, and Brian

2112
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Robbinson chip in sixty. But they're down seventeen to seven

2113
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: at half time. They come back and their next three

2114
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 1: drives are seven minutes and forty seven seconds long on

2115
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: a fifteen play touchdown drive, seven minutes long on a

2116
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: fourteen play touchdown drive, and it's mostly on the ground.

2117
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: And then they have that long field goal drive that

2118
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: takes up five and a half minutes. Yet that yeah,

2119
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: they had the touchdown called back and they end up

2120
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: kicking the field goal, and you just think, man, this

2121
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: offense and Cliff Kingsbury are beating all the allegations. I'll

2122
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: get to the Falcons mishandling things in a second, but

2123
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that it's an offense first team. And

2124
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: dan Quinn kept going for it on fourth down. They

2125
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: were three for three on fourth down. He has some

2126
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: game management things to work on perhaps as well, but

2127
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: he kind of knows where his bread is buttered. He

2128
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: had injuries on both sides of the ball, but especially

2129
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and yet he could see it

2130
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: like we're picking up yardage until he was aggressive, kept

2131
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down, and they leaned into

2132
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 1: what they do well and they're going to the playoffs

2133
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: because of it.

2134
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way that they come through in these

2135
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 2: clutch situations is really what stands out to me, because

2136
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 2: this is a team that wasn't supposed to be here.

2137
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 2: This is a team that was at the worst defense

2138
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 2: in the NFL last season. They're under a new head coach,

2139
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 2: they got a new quarterback, and you speak about those

2140
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 2: fourth down conversions, the one to McNichols where he catches

2141
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 2: the ball and then extends beyond the line the gain

2142
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 2: for the first down just one of many great plays

2143
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 2: and key spots, and that's who this team has been

2144
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 2: for so much of this season. It hasn't been perfect

2145
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 2: by any means, But how do you not get on

2146
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 2: board with that? You know, you get a little emotional

2147
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 2: because you have the falcons there. How can you not

2148
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: get emotional about this if you just love football? What's

2149
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 2: a fantastic game with saw?

2150
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 5: What I say emotional too?

2151
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: I just mean like it's almost like I'm a fan

2152
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: of the team and I'm just thinking, oh, there's no

2153
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:40,480
Speaker 1: way they stop now. And it's because I'm loving watching Daniels.

2154
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: But it's a great point. It shook because the first

2155
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,520
Speaker 1: is the key ist touchdown. Great great play by Daniels

2156
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: in the first half, throwing it against his body, but

2157
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 1: really good catch on a night where McLaurin has seven

2158
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: targets for five yards. Aj Terrell with an awesome performance

2159
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: covering him most of the day. That touch down catch

2160
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: to win the game by Ertz Fletcher was right. That

2161
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: was a missile and it was like two inches off

2162
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: the ground. I didn't think he caught it live because

2163
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: I just thought it was such a hard catch and

2164
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 1: you saw it going to the ground and I thought,

2165
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: oh man, they're gonna have to take everyone off the field.

2166
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: But no, he clearly caught it like great strong hands,

2167
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: that great play by Mick Nichols. Zakias had big plays.

2168
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 1: Crowder stepped up the last couple of weeks, so you know,

2169
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: props to them. Dante Fowler had some plays defensively. You know,

2170
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: they did pick off Penex. They forced a couple fumbles

2171
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: by Penex. They weren't lucky enough to fall on either one,

2172
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: but but they forced the couple and so they do enough.

2173
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 1: Now let's start with a negative with the Falcons. Raheem

2174
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Morris just doesn't show the calm and the quick thinking

2175
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 1: in big moments with the clock that you know your

2176
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 1: average Madden player would be all over And I know,

2177
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: I know it's I know it's different, but I'm not

2178
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 1: gonna and give him slack on this one because it's

2179
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 1: your job and it wasn't a confusing situation. They get

2180
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: the ball back after one of the most surprising three

2181
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 1: and outs of the entire season. You're right, Pennix leads

2182
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: them down to a courageous drive and we can get it.

2183
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: We can talk about that longer in a second if

2184
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: you want. But they force a three and out from

2185
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: Daniels where there's a drop on third down. You know,

2186
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: he was a little inaccurate and first down, and they

2187
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 1: get the ball back with over a minute to go, no,

2188
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 1: rather forty seconds to go. Pennix, who's had a lot

2189
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 1: of nice deep outs in this game, throws it to

2190
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 1: Mooney for twenty five yards to the falcons forty four

2191
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 1: yard line. They don't take a time out there. It

2192
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: was about thirty three seconds left, and they blow sixteen

2193
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 1: seconds off the clock. Well, surely that's got to be

2194
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: the little last time out, right, No, No, you had.

2195
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 5: Two left there.

2196
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: It's not even a thought like, of course, you can't

2197
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:56,480
Speaker 1: blow fifteen seconds. They end up not even using the timeouts.

2198
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 1: They go into overtime with an extra timeout and they

2199
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: only use another one to get set. Like it was

2200
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: with the clock stop. They didn't even end up using

2201
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: another one of those timeouts. They get up PI on

2202
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: their second to last play in regulation that gives them

2203
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: a fifty six yard attempt. Riley Patterson comes up short.

2204
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: He's a guy who's bounced around. He's a replacement kicker.

2205
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 1: It happens. I thought it, like most viewers probably thought

2206
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 1: it was going in and the Falcons are winning this game.

2207
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 1: But it just reminds you they would have had two

2208
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: three more plays there, And it's just crazy because it's

2209
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: it's an unforced there, and it's a rare thing that

2210
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: we can say from the outside, you one hundred percent

2211
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:33,799
Speaker 1: just made the wrong decision.

2212
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 5: And so I'm gonna say.

2213
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: It honestly, that's fair. But I also not in defense

2214
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 2: of them, but you know, just to give him a

2215
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 2: little bit of a break in some grace here. I

2216
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 2: think the environment had something to do with it, because

2217
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 2: Washington had a hard time getting organized too. At some

2218
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 2: point in that overtime drive, they called him time out

2219
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 2: just to get jan and Daniels a breather. There were

2220
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 2: multiple instances, especially in the fourth quarter, where both teams

2221
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 2: struggled to get lined up, get set before the play clicks.

2222
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 5: They looked tired.

2223
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: I thought Raheem Morris should have used his timeouts in

2224
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,919
Speaker 1: overtime just to get his defense that he didn't.

2225
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 5: At all, But that's fair. I think they were just

2226
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 5: fancy night.

2227
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 1: I think like people are always like defense gets tired,

2228
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: like offense gets tired too. Washington was on the field

2229
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: like that whole second. I appreciate that. And it's a

2230
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: good shout out to that Washington crowd, who I've seen

2231
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: it when they've been good, certainly of the RG three

2232
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: year and there's been other little pop up years, but

2233
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 1: you get a feeling that they're waiting to be one

2234
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: of the best crowds in the NFL. And they're back

2235
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: and it's awesome, and they were worried about disaster scenarios. Okay,

2236
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Pennix gets the ball back with four point thirty two

2237
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: to go after Atlanta finally forces the field goal with

2238
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,799
Speaker 1: the help of the timeouts, and he has multiple fourth

2239
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: and longs on that drive and he hits them, and

2240
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: he has a couple of nice outs, and he also

2241
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: misses some throws. He just has surprising inaccuracy on some throws,

2242
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: but he makes really difficult throws to the outside and

2243
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: that fourth and long that he hits to Pitts with

2244
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: how much time was left one nineteen go, You know, that.

2245
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 5: Could have been one of the throws of the year.

2246
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 5: That's like a rookie stamping.

2247
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 1: His moment where Riley Patterson hits that freaking kick. All

2248
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 1: we're talking about is how great Penix was to finish

2249
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 1: this game and he never even gets the ball back

2250
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 1: in overtime. So props to Penix, who I thought had

2251
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: an up and down game, but the flashes were there

2252
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 1: and the finish was absolutely awesome, and through no fault

2253
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 1: of his own, they end up losing this game because

2254
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the ball in overtime.

2255
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: What was the number one attribute when he came out

2256
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: of college that people talked about positively with him?

2257
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:32,799
Speaker 5: Armstring, poise exactly.

2258
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Guess what showed completely on that drive and on that

2259
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 2: throw the Pits on fourth down. That live arm.

2260
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 9: Baby.

2261
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 2: He fit that thing in there and Pitts made a

2262
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 2: great catch. Fans of Kyle Pitts, who think he's been

2263
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 2: in jail since he's been with the Falcons, are eager

2264
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 2: to see his release. If he's got a quarterback like

2265
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 2: Michael Penix who's not afraid to throw them the football.

2266
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 2: It was fun. I mean, they lost the game, but

2267
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 2: it was so fun to watch.

2268
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they might not make the playoffs now though

2269
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: because of it.

2270
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 5: So they're eight and eight. Commanders are in at eleven five.

2271
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: They're actually the sixth seed right now and the Packers

2272
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: are the seven depending on how much they care about seeding.

2273
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: We'll find out in week eighteen. We can get into

2274
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: that during the week. But if the Falcons had hit

2275
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: that kick, Nick, Commanders would have been in a situation

2276
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 1: next week where they had to beat Dallas to guarantee

2277
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: their spot in the playoffs, and Dallas beat them before

2278
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 1: Dallas is at home.

2279
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 5: You just never know.

2280
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,919
Speaker 1: That could have been a nervous, frisky type of situation

2281
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Commanders fans, especially after you know, potentially having blown this

2282
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: lead at the end, that would have been a very

2283
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: nervous week. And staid it's the Falcons who now go

2284
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: into next week without control. And if you're a Falcons fan,

2285
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 1: you're just adding this to the list of improbable, just weird,

2286
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: tough ways for seasons to end. Because the Buccaneers are

2287
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: hosting the Saints, and the Buccaneers win the division if

2288
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: they beat Spencer Rattler and a dead Staints team, and

2289
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 1: there's no I know, surprising things happened in the NFL,

2290
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: but it sure feels like the Falcon season is over

2291
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: because of this little sequence. And that's why that time

2292
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: out thing it looms. It's not like the whole game

2293
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: came down to that. You know, the Falcons defense is

2294
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 1: getting run over, but I think their season is essentially over.

2295
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: They have the Panthers next week and they'll probably win

2296
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: that game and they'll probably end up out of the

2297
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: playoffs at nine and eight.

2298
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when you take stock of the entire season,

2299
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 2: what do you come away with? Because you went to

2300
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: the whole Kirk Cousins ordeal, you saw him bench, you

2301
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,560
Speaker 2: saw the start of your future, hopefully at quarterback with

2302
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix. But where do you go from here? Are

2303
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 2: you happy about this year or do you feel like

2304
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 2: you missed an opportunity based on how you started this year?

2305
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,839
Speaker 1: It's somewhere in between, because I think Raheem's defense showed

2306
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: some progress over time tonight, Yeah, not really in the

2307
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: second half tonight showed some progress down the stretch, and

2308
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: you're starting kind of a new regime but this was

2309
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: also a go time type of season because they have

2310
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 1: so many young, talented players. That's why they gave Kirk

2311
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 1: all that money. I think you got to feel good

2312
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: about what happened with Pennix over the last two weeks,

2313
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: and hopefully he closes strong, but it's gonna feel like

2314
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity. They also would have been underdogs in

2315
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: that first game against either the Vikings or the Lions,

2316
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 1: so ultimately it was probably just changing the week that

2317
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: their heart was broken and they maybe we wouldn't have

2318
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 1: been close.

2319
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 5: Drake London was awesome in this game. Kayden Ellis was awesome.

2320
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: Actually, I think there's some good things to feel if

2321
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 1: you're a Falcons fan and look that they're gonna get

2322
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: with a better record. All Right, so let's set up

2323
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 1: next week's schedule before we go for the last time

2324
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: this season, the Browns are in an Island game. I Apologizeck,

2325
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 1: I apologize to everyone else. The schedule makers, understandably because

2326
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 1: there weren't really many options, decided to go with AFC

2327
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: North on Saturday. I think if the if the Falcons

2328
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: had won this game tonight, the schedule would have been

2329
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: totally different because I actually think the Rams would have

2330
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 1: been playing on Saturday. It would have been a totally

2331
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: different setup. But this is the schedule we have now.

2332
01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: Ravens eleven and five. They're playing on the early game

2333
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 1: on Saturday, that's at one point thirty Eastern. If they win,

2334
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: they win the division. Before the Steelers even play Saturday night.

2335
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: That game is gonna matter Steelers Bengals. Steelers could be

2336
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: playing for seeding, which could be important because it's the

2337
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: difference between playing either the Ravens again or the Texans.

2338
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 1: I just knowing the Steelers, they're going to play to

2339
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 1: win in that game. The Bengals will be playing to

2340
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: try to keep their playoff hopes alive going in to Sunday.

2341
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 1: The Sunday morning slate will be when the NFC South

2342
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: is decided. Both the Falcons and the Bucks will play

2343
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: in the morning games. That's really the only thing that

2344
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 1: matters in the morning games. Washington playing for seeding. Green

2345
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 1: Bay as well, but it's six seven, it's not that

2346
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: big of a deal. In the afternoon slate, we finally

2347
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 1: have the Chiefs and the Broncos, and that will be

2348
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 1: the Broncos most likely playing for a playoff spot, but

2349
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: either the Dolphins have to win at the exact same

2350
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: time or they'll know if the Bengals had won on Saturday.

2351
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:07,679
Speaker 1: And yes, I should have mentioned that the Dolphins still

2352
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: an important part of Week eighteen. They are at one

2353
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,639
Speaker 1: twenty five, opposite that Broncos Chiefs game and some other

2354
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: games that don't matter as much like Seahawks Rams.

2355
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy because the Seahawks.

2356
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,759
Speaker 1: And the Rams, it's like the division's over, but they're

2357
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 1: literally gonna tie potentially if the Seahawks win that game

2358
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: in record, division record, conference record, common opponents like they

2359
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,719
Speaker 1: are down to the fifth tiebreaker. But we just already

2360
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 1: know how it's all gonna work, even if the Seahawks

2361
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 1: win that game, and that's why they are eliminated. And yes,

2362
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football Lions and Vikings for the one seed.

2363
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Fun way to end the season reminds me of a

2364
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: couple years back when the Lions technically had nothing to

2365
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: play for shook and they played their hearts out and

2366
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: they beat the Packers knocked them out of the playoffs,

2367
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: And to me, that was they had already had a

2368
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 1: lot of moments that you knew they were legit, but

2369
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 1: that to me was the next level moment. So I

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Speaker 1: look forward to that with you next Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be fantastic. That was the start of the

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Speaker 2: lines as we know them now when they took it

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Speaker 2: to the Packers and winning the offseason with a lot

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Speaker 2: of momentum. We not the same setup for this Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of not still at stake on Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I guess I don't know if Patrick would

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Speaker 1: agree that momentum can continue from one week to the

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Speaker 1: next in the playoffs? Does that count or is it

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Speaker 1: just within a game? Who really knows. We'll find out

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Speaker 1: next week. Hit the music, it's time. Who fired up?

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Speaker 1: We only got.

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Speaker 5: Sixteen games left of the regular season, Shook, No.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen because we got a Monday Night. It's gotta be

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Speaker 1: beautiful me and Shook. Look when Jaden Daniels is stamping

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Speaker 1: his status as a freaking legend as a rookie, that's

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Speaker 1: what you know. Football is back. We'll see him Monday