1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back in appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: We are joined now by a candidate for the Democrat 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: nomination running against Joe Biden. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: He is Robert F. 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: Kennedy, Junior, an environmental lawyer, author, known for activism and 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: for being the son, of course of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy, 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: nephew of John F. Kennedy, former President JFK and mister Kennedy. 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining us. I wanted to hit you with 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: the polling that is out there, which I know it's early, 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: but Fox News released a poll this morning that I 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: saw that has you at nineteen percent support. Joe Biden 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: has already basically announced that he's going to refuse to 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: debate you. What are you hearing, what are you seeing? 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: And what do you think of Biden's refusal to debate you. 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's unfortunate. I think you know, we're 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: living at a time there's a lot of Americans who 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: are losing faith in democracy or have loss faith in it, 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: and who believes the system is rigged and that democracy 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: has broken. And I think it's really time for the 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: Democratic Party, particularly to persuade people to make this election 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: at template or how democracy is supposed to work, to 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: have real debates, to do town halls, to do real politics, 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: retail politics, and not have the nominees for each party 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: picked by a party elite. 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: We're talking to Robert F. Kennedy Junior. 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: You tweeted yesterday and I want to read this. It's 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: dawning on mainstream figures like Anthony Fauci that their COVID 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: policies were a public health disaster. Lots of us are 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: angry about the mandates, the lockdowns, the censorship, the insanity, 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: but we need to avoid the toxic quagmire of retribution 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: and blame, and folks focus on ensuring this never happens again. 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: Clean up the regulatory agencies, get corporate money out of 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: public health, and guarantee free, open, uncensored public and scientific discourse. 36 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen Randy Winingarten showing up on Capitol Hill, 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: the head of the teachers' union and claiming that she 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: didn't advocate to shut down schools, when in fact she did. 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen Fauci saying, hey, I never said 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: that schools should shut down or that we should lock down, 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: when in fact he did. How do we move forward here? 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: And how big of a failure in your mind was COVID? 43 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Have you seen anything like it in your life? 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: No, I don't think anybody has. Let me clarify something 45 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: about that tweet. You know, I've been litigating for forty years. 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: And the people who broke the law and who illegally 47 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: forced people to do things at you know they were 48 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: illegal to do, used illegal coercion, should be prosecuted. And 49 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: then they attacked the Bill of Rights. They took away 50 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: our free speech, our first Amendment right they took away 51 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: They closed the churches for a year. They went after 52 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: our freedom of assembly by getting us to social distance 53 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: again without any scientific citation or due process. They shut 54 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: down the businesses in violation of Fifth Amendment without due 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: process or just compensation. They shut down jury trials for 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: any of these companies, no matter how negligent they were, 57 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: no matter how reckless their conduct, no matter how grievous 58 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: your injury, you cannot sue them. And they collaborated with 59 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: these pharmaceutical companies which were we now know were lying 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: about their products. They knew the products didn't work, they 61 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: knew they didn't block transmission, they knew they didn't prevent infections, 62 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: and yet they were openly lying about it. Democracy cannot 63 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: fly that kind of system. 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: So much of what you said, I know our audience 65 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: is going to agree with. You're running on Democrat side 66 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: of the ledger. Why do you think almost no Democrats 67 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: are willing to acknowledge just about everything that you said. 68 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: It's very strange to me. One of the troubling things 69 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: about the pandemic is that people I know people aren't 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: friendly with people I'm related to, simply walked away from 71 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: the from the values that I always assumed there is 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: the bedrock values to the Democratic Party include beginning with 73 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: freedom of speech. You have many Democrats out there that 74 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: have co signed on censorship, which you know, to me 75 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: is just a red line that can never be crossed. 76 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: Our Constitution was not built for easy times. It was 77 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: built for the hard times, and the framers did not 78 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: put a pandemic exception in it put a constitution during 79 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 3: the Civil War, our the country was on the verge 80 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: of falling apart. When Abraham Lincoln tried to suspend habeas 81 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: Corpus the Court that you can't do that. The Constitution 82 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: is inviolable. And by the way, the framers knew all 83 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: about pandemics. There were two pandemics during the Revolutionary War. 84 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: There was a malaria epidemic that decimated the armies of Virginia. 85 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: It was a smallpox epidemic that froze the armies of 86 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: New England during a critical period when we had already 87 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: conquered Montreal. And then between the end of the revolution 88 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: and the ratification of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, 89 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: there were a dozen other epidemics. So they knew all 90 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: about epidemics, but they didn't put that in the Constitution. 91 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: You mentioned the way people have responded to you. Both 92 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: Buck and I have had friends and family that have 93 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: been upset with us for talking about the truth on COVID. You, 94 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: I imagine, given that you are not only connected at 95 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: high levels of Democrat politics based on your family, but 96 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: also your history of living in Hollywood and interacting with 97 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: many people in the entertainment industry, I imagine, have felt 98 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: castigated and tossed aside, maybe unlike at any point in 99 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: your life. What has that experience been like for you, 100 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: and have any of those people come back to you 101 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: now as suddenly it's becoming quite clear that lockdowns were 102 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: a disaster, that kids should have never been out of school, 103 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 2: that the COVID shot did not do as you say 104 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: what we were all told by Pfizer, Maderna and Johnson 105 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: and Johnson it would do. Have people started to return 106 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: to you, what was your experience like over the last 107 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: three years speaking these truths that frankly a lot of 108 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: people didn't want to hear. 109 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was very isolated during that period. 110 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: For me, I'm not troubled by it because I knew 111 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: what I had to do, and you know, what other 112 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: people think of me is not really my business. It 113 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: was painful to lose a lot of these relationships, but 114 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: I felt like I was, you know, in some ways, 115 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: just given a gift because it you know, you want 116 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: to spend your life doing something that's worthwhile, and that's 117 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: always going to be painful and difficult, so those difficulties 118 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: you kind of have to embrace. And that's how I 119 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: looked at it. But what I've seen is that there 120 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: is an openness now to people criticizing these products, and 121 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: that a lot of my friendships are kind of friends 122 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: are coming back, and you know who were avoiding me 123 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: because I seemed to them like a dangerous person. And 124 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, listen, we've known for a long time that 125 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: it's a huge mistake to give this vaccine to children. 126 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: Children and college aged kids have so few risks from COVID. 127 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: We've known from the beginning, and the vaccine is a 128 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: high risk product. So why would you give that look 129 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: with the essentially zero risks and the disease. 130 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: We're talking Robert Kennedy Junior, who's running for the Democrat 131 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: nomination for the presidency in twenty twenty four. He just 132 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: recently announced he's got nineteen percent support in the most 133 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: recent poll released today by Fox News. How do you 134 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: think you're a history guy? I love the analogies that 135 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: you drew to how people in the United States have 136 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: dealt with pandemics before, and even how the founding fathers 137 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: did both during the Revolutionary War and the drafting of 138 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the documents 139 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: that are underlying our democracy today. How do you think 140 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: your dad and John F. Kennedy would have responded to 141 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: COVID as Democrats in the nineteen sixties, because everybody likes 142 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: to talk about history, and obviously your uncle and your 143 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: father are stalwarts of the Democrat Party. How do you 144 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: think they would have responded to what they saw happen 145 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: in this country during COVID. 146 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Clay, I can't give you a good answer that. 147 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I can give you a good answer. That's 148 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: that as sing answer to that, because I have ten 149 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: brothers and sisters and a lot of cousins, and all 150 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: of them kind of have ownership claims on my uncle 151 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: and father. So all of us make a practice out 152 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: of courtesy to each other of not sort of claiming 153 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: my father and my Uncle's a premature for our own 154 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: personal issues, and it's just something we do, so I 155 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: try to avoid doing that. I mean, I have really 156 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: clear thoughts about what I think, but it's not something 157 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: because of that practice in my family that I would 158 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: share publicly. 159 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: You know what, that's actually a fantastic I've never heard 160 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: that answer given to this question like that, but I 161 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: actually think it's a it's a fantastic answer, sir, I mean, 162 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: I really do. So let me just ask you a 163 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: couple of things to finish. Then you mentioned in the 164 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: history books fifty one hundred years from now, How do 165 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: you think COVID will be covered in this country? How 166 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: do you hope this era will be covered in the country. 167 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: How do you I think it will? 168 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that either, And the reason I 169 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: don't know that is because I don't even know where 170 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: this country is headed right now. I'm very worried about 171 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: what the future looks like. And you know, this is 172 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: something that I've talked about, and it's kind of a 173 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: theme with me, is with you have now these technologies 174 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: for control that we're unavailable to totalitarian systems in prior generations, 175 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: so that you know the ambition of every totalitarian system 176 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: that's to control every aspect of human behavior and even 177 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: human thought, but none of them have ever been able 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: to do that because the technology has not been available. 179 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: But now we have these very frightening not only surveillance technologies, 180 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: but AI technologies that can manipulate our minds, that can 181 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: manipulate our world views in ways that are incredibly insidious, 182 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: and in the hands of totalitarian systems of turnkey totalitarianism 183 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: that we have will be capable of changing human behavior, 184 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: intervening with our perceptions of reality in ways that are 185 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: very very frightening. I don't know what's going to come, 186 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: but what I do know is the only way that 187 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: we can deal with this is by strengthening our democratic 188 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: institutions to guard ourselves against rise of that kind of totalitarianism, 189 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: because once it's out there, it will be impossible to defeat. 190 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: And we need now, we should, we should not be 191 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: weakening these institutions at this moment in history. We need 192 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: to be fortifying and bolstering them to make sure that 193 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: those technologies are not unleashed upon us as a tool 194 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: for control by totalitarian forces. 195 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: Last question for you and I apprecake the time we're 196 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: talking to Robert F. 197 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior. You're right that we're in a very crucible moment. 198 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: I think everybody out there listening to us on the 199 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: show certainly understands that. Across the country, Yet Joe Biden 200 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: has almost no challengers. I think it's fair to say 201 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: that given the fact that he has a forty percent 202 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: approval rating roughly nationwide, there's lots of people unsatisfied with 203 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: the direction of the country right now. Why do you 204 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: think almost no other Democrat has stepped up to challenge him? 205 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 3: Because the DNZ is the DNC has a capacity to 206 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: ruin your political career, and so I think most of 207 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: the Democrats are are frightened of the DNZ and unleashing 208 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: you know, a lava storm on them if they if 209 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: they try to enter the race. You know, I mean 210 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 3: one of the disappointing things that happened to me over 211 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: the past couple of leagues that I you know, I 212 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: witness live Bernie Sanders, who you know, who endorsed the 213 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: president and you know, he's been leader of the progressive 214 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: playing of the party and he got nothing in return. 215 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: And it was very very odd that he would do 216 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: that because he you know, he's been against war, he's 217 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: been against corporatism, he's been against this an merger of 218 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: state corporate power that that President Biden represents with the 219 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: surrounded by all of his Wall Street people and his 220 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: neocons and all the people who are now you know, 221 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: running the White House. And it's very very odd to 222 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: me that you know, that Bernie Sanders would have done that, 223 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know what motivated him, but that to 224 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: me is I think the biggest disappointment. 225 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate your time today, will probably be willing 226 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: to have you on going forward. I know our audience 227 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 2: was very interested to hear from you. Good luck in 228 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: the campaign, and we appreciate the time today. 229 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: Hey Glay, thank you so much for having me. Look 230 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: forward to talking again for sure. 231 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: That is Robert F. 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But you know, right now, 263 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: something else we had brought up. I just I want 264 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: to play the audio. We can come back into this 265 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: little bit more, Clay, because we're talking about how does 266 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: Kamala get elected? How do you get elected as a 267 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: Democrat with no discernible skills, charisma or knowledge in a 268 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: very big I mean I think that's fair, right, No, I, 269 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: you know, such a devastating synopsis of her political careers. 270 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 4: Just called it like I see it, you know, just 271 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: called it like I see it. Well, you get the unions, 272 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: particularly the Teachers' Union, the Public Sector Union's SEIU, as 273 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: well things like that. Here's Randy Weiningarten of the American 274 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: Federation of Teachers on Capitol Hill yesterday. She's appalling. I 275 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: want to She's an appalling person. Play twenty. 276 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Congressman Raskin. I'm just We spent every day 277 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 5: from February on trying to get schools open. 278 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: We knew that. 279 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 5: Remote education was not a substitute for opening schools, but 280 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 5: we also knew that people had to be safe. And 281 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 5: maybe it's because I live in New York City. I 282 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 5: lived near a hospital. Every other minute there was an ambulance. 283 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: There was terror. Our members were terrified, others were terrified. 284 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: And what we were simply looking for was clear scientific guidance. 285 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: No no no no no, no, no no no. She 286 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,479 Speaker 4: is lying to you. She sat down with and developed 287 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: the guidance with Fauci and Biden White House, and because 288 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: of her, an entire additional year of schooling was lost 289 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 4: for millions and millions of children across the country. And 290 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: it was all the Democrats. It was all their election 291 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: machinery and the teachers' unions, and look, I think if 292 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 4: this is handled right, this should be an elect an 293 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 4: issue in twenty twenty four there should be. Maybe we 294 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: can't get accountability unmasked right. Maybe people want to forget 295 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 4: that clay the school closures. Kids' lives are altered because 296 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: of what Randy Winngarten and the lazy people running the 297 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: AFT demanded. 298 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: I would love a deep dive on do you remember 299 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: buck In June of twenty twenty, the American Academy of 300 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: Pediatrics and I may be misquoting them or miss signifying them, 301 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: but that's basically their name. 302 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: It's all the pediatricians. 303 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: They came out and said it was important that every 304 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: kid needed to be back in school. In the fall 305 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, the teachers' unions went to war with them. 306 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: They changed their guidance. Yes remember that, Yes I do. 307 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: Good point, my friends, I want to talk to about 308 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: an accomplishment. Every day, one organization saves the lives of 309 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: at least one hundred and fifty unborn children. Over the 310 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: course of the past seventeen years, that same organization has 311 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: helped to save the lives of more than two hundred 312 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: thousand unborn Babies. 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Just type in Clay Travis buck Sexton on 333 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 2: any platform you'll be able to find this boom. You're underway. 334 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: Wanted to update one little thing, Buck. The Senate blocked. 335 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: You know, the House passed the bill that would say, hey, 336 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: you should men should play it compete against men and 337 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: women should compete against women. Democrats in the Senate blocked 338 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: that bill from maybe being voted on. Think about it, 339 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: Think about how crazy the world we live in is now. 340 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: No Democrat voted in favor of women competing against women 341 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: and men competing against men in the House. And then 342 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: because they control the Senate, they blocked Tommy Tubberville, Senator 343 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: from Alabama, from even being able to bring that bill 344 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: up for a vote. Credit to Riley Gains, she has 345 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: a story out and a letter out. They wrote It's 346 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill. They got seventy different high level women athletes 347 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: to sign onto this, and I feel like a lot 348 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: of women are finally starting to respond. And I don't 349 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: know if you saw Martina Nevratilova, legendary tennis player Women's Star, 350 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: she went after Leah Thomas over the idea that feminists 351 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: should be supporting trans women. And I feel like a 352 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: lot of women are finally starting to step up here 353 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: Buck and be willing to engage in the fray. But 354 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: think about where we are that a major political party 355 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: won't even allow a vote to take place on whether 356 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: women should be able to compete against women. You see 357 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: the number one story on Fox news dot com right 358 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: now is a transme and we know it's always a 359 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: guy right posing as a woman. Trans female runner got 360 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: first place. What a shock among fourteen thousand women at 361 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: the London marriage and is now saying, well, if this 362 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: upsets people so much, I'll give I'll give the metal back. 363 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: So see this. 364 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: This is the reason that we continue to focus on 365 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: this is because it keeps happening. Yes, and the entire 366 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 4: Democrat Party and really the globalist left is pushing this 367 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: as much as possible. And what you see is think 368 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: about the psychology of this for all the women, the 369 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: actual women running in this race. The champion of your 370 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: race was a dude, and you're supposed to think that's okay. 371 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 4: You know, if you run a marathon, you're run twenty 372 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: six miles or whatever it is. I've never done a marathon, 373 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: but it's twenty six miles right, based on Fidipity's ancient Greece. 374 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: We'll talk about that another time. So you run a marathon, 375 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 4: the person who comes in first. You get to be like, 376 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: oh man, she's she's amazing, Like look what she was 377 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: able to accomplish through hard work and perseverance and God 378 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: given talent. And now for the fifteen thousand women that marathon, 379 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: it's you know, look at Bob, he runs real fast. 380 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: That's reality, folks. That is the truth. 381 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: And by the way, the news articles that are writing 382 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: on this are calling it, calling the individual here Glenick 383 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: Frank a she. Glenick Frank is not a she. 384 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: Correct. That is confusing to people because it is untrue. 385 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: Glick Frank is a he. 386 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: Big balls on Glinick Frank, Russia in Wisconsin wants to 387 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: react to the RSA must be RuSHA. 388 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: Is it? 389 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: Did I mispronounce it Russia? I don't know. I'm not sure. 390 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm not great at pronunciations. Are you there? 391 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: It's I'm here, It's Rochelle, Rochelle. 392 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: Well I have I thought Rushia seemed unlikely from our 393 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: esteemed call screening staff, But Rochelle Rochelle is much much 394 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: easier name to pronounce. 395 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: What have you got for us? 396 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 6: All right, I have a question for you, if this 397 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 6: is all possible. I'm listening to Kennedy the last couple 398 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 6: of months, and I like him, and I'm a Republican, 399 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 6: and you know, I might vote for him. Is it 400 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 6: all possible that we could get at a Democrat and 401 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: a Republican to run for public office to unite this country? 402 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 6: Because we're really not that much different from the old 403 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 6: Democrats because I grew up Democratic and then we'd change 404 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 6: with Reagan. So is it at all possible that maybe 405 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 6: we could get a DeSantis and a Kennedy or we're 406 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 6: someone out there to run and unite this country because 407 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 6: right now we're so divided. 408 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: It's a fascinating call. Here is what's interesting, Buck DeSantis 409 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: and RFK Junior would be almost one hundred percent in 410 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: agreement on COVID. Now there would be a lot I 411 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: can't I can't do this, I can't do this anymore. 412 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: I can't do the city just saying they would be 413 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: one hundred percent on agreement on code on COVID, Yes, yes, yes. 414 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: On COVID. Here is Here is our FK on other things. 415 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: Here's for for example, he's the Natural Resources Defense Counsel, 416 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 4: he's a senior attorney for this is on climate one. 417 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: He has a quote our deadly addiction to carbon is 418 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: the principal enemy to America's prosperity, leadership, and national security, 419 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: and to the values that make us proud to be 420 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: a part of this country. YadA, YadA, YadA. He's a 421 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: climate loon. That that alone is totally should be totally 422 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: disqualifying everybody. 423 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: Clay, I'm with you so much about COVID that I'm 424 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 2: willing to overlook if you're right on COVID. You're like 425 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: a girl who is a perfect ten. I'm willing to 426 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: overlook a lot freaky. Look, I just want to go 427 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: on the record that this he's not. 428 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 4: He's not even remotely one of us in any other 429 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: realm other than he'll take on big pharma. 430 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: He's good on COVID. 431 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: He was right during a time when all the other 432 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 4: Democrats were wrong on. 433 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: The First Amendment. I mean, he's right on the First Amendment. 434 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: Which is maybe the most interesting part I thought of 435 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: our conversation is every other Democrat has basically abandoned the 436 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: First Amendment, which is and that's to me the first 437 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: thing for me, as someone who was a persuadable voter 438 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: in now things, Democrats are crazy. The absence of the 439 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: marketplace of ideas is pretty wild. Sharon in Texas, Sharon, 440 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: what you got? 441 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 7: Thank you for having RFK Junior on. I really enjoyed 442 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 7: that and it was refreshing to hear that he addressed 443 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 7: just the issues, not other personalities. And I liked all 444 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 7: his answers. And I'm a full Trump supporter, have been 445 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 7: since the beginning that I'm very impressed with RFK Jr. 446 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 7: And his book. My son got his book and read 447 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 7: it and he really liked it. It really turned him 448 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 7: a key turn for him. And oh oh, by the way, 449 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 7: earlier in the show, you said that Kamala Harris was 450 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 7: supported by the Democrat machine. True, but one little thing. 451 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 7: Willie Brown in California did not support her running. In fact, 452 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 7: he said no, do not run for president or vice president. 453 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: That is really fascinating. I did not thank you, thank 454 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: you for the call. Okay. I think the other thing 455 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: RFK Junior demonstrates buck is how crazy left wing Democrats 456 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: have gone. And that's why the idea of mansion actually 457 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: running against my look. I think this is what's wild 458 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: to me, and that's why the R and d NC 459 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: answer he gave was interesting. If Gavin Newsom ran against 460 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. I think Gavin Newsom would smoke Joe Biden. 461 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: I don't think Gavin Newsom. 462 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: No, I don't. 463 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 464 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see that. I don't see that. 465 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: Let me tell you why, because I think Clay now 466 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: in the primary as it's structured, Remember, the primary as 467 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: it is structured, has one reason. I think they changed 468 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: it restructured for Biden and the the the primary determining 469 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 4: demographic for the Democrat primary is going to be, uh, 470 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: the way they've structured it, the black primary voters and 471 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: particularly female black primary Democrat voters. Joe Biden does very 472 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: He's very strong with that demographic. He does very well 473 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: with them. So that's why I think you're right. If 474 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: you could get to the point where all Democrats nationwide 475 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: could just kind of have like a you know, like 476 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: a plebisciteer and all at once vote on Biden versus Newsome, 477 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: I think that, yeah, maybe you'd get a Newsome win. 478 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: But Bait. 479 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 4: Remember it's just like it's just like Bernie Sanders Hillary, Right, 480 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: They've structured it for Biden's benefit because that's what you know, 481 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: the machine has decided for him. So that's your right 482 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: that they did that. I actually wonder though, whether the 483 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 4: play would be to just skip South Carolina, which is 484 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: now the first primary state, because a lot of people 485 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 4: would skip Iowa, or at least argue, hey, we're New 486 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: Hampshire first, whatever else, if you were running against Joe Biden, like, 487 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 4: let's just sketch out like your campaign plan, right, and 488 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: you were a Democrat. To me, because they're rigging the 489 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: system to such an extent in South Carolina, I think 490 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 4: you just skip South Carolina, give Joe Biden the limited 491 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: amount of delegates that he would get there, and immediately 492 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: start competing in states where you could win. And I'll 493 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: just say this too, I don't know that black voters, 494 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: if you look at all the data, I don't know 495 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: that black voters actually are going to show up in 496 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 4: very good numbers for Joe Biden because. 497 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: They did the black they did the last time. 498 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: Though they did the last time, and that's true, and 499 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 2: they didn't show up for Hillary in twenty sixteen, by 500 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 2: the way, the same way, which was a huge uh, 501 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: you know, and twenty they didn't show up in anywhere 502 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: near the numbers that they showed up for Obama in twelve. 503 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: Certainly they didn't show up for Hillary in sixteen. 504 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: Right. 505 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: Well, now we're talking about like the all time sort 506 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: of high water mark of participation, right versus you know, 507 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 4: Democratic norms. But they Biden. Look, we all know that 508 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: South Carolina switched for Biden. That's that's how we did it, 509 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: right yea. 510 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: And and you know. 511 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: Gavin, here's the problem that Gavin Newsom faces, Clay. I 512 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: don't think Gavin Newsom plays well in swing states at all, 513 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: even a Democrats. I don't think the Democrat voters in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. 514 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: I don't think they trustknews him over Joe Biden at 515 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: this point. I remember, Joe Biden's the brand, you know 516 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 4: what I mean, He's the. 517 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: Percent of Democrats don't want Joe Biden to run. We've 518 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: never seen anything like this. I think they say that, 519 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: but they're all going to vote for it. Just well, 520 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: because there's a cognitive diciise. I think I think you're right, 521 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: because he's going to be the option. And this is 522 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: one thing where Biden is right. He keeps saying, don't 523 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: judge me against the Almighty, judge me against the other option, 524 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: or you know something along that line, so they will 525 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: show up eventually and push the Biden ticket. But what 526 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying is I think there are I can probably 527 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: name you five or six people that I think if 528 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: they actually got in the race. Remember right now, RFK 529 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: Junior is getting nineteen percent of the vote. I mean 530 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: that is pretty crazy for a guy that just announced 531 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: last week and that most people don't really know, because 532 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: I think there's actually a lot of Democrats that are 533 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: coming around on I do. 534 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Look you look back at Look. 535 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: I I get credit where it's due, right, He's great 536 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: on COVID. I think you guys had a really interesting inner. 537 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: I just couldn't make it for that everybody. By the way, 538 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: I wasn't not willing to talk to him or anything. Yes, yes, yes, 539 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: but but yeah, we had to schedule that out. I 540 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: had a scheduling issue, not a like I won't talk 541 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: to rf gays. 542 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't that. 543 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: But I think Clay, you can see there are a 544 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 4: lot of people in recent presidential primary cycles who kind 545 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: of had a moment, you know, Nu Gangrich had a moment, 546 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: Chris Christy had a moment, right, Rudy Giuliani had more 547 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: than a moment, he like it was his was the favorite, 548 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 4: you know, right, he was the favorite. So I just 549 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 4: feel like Democrats never we can't hope that, or I 550 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: should say we can't count on We can hope, but 551 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 4: we can't count on Democrats making the mistake of dividing 552 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: themselves when they have a Democrat in the White House. 553 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: I just feel like they will Bernie Sanders this situation. 554 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: Remember what that super delegates did with Hillary. They will 555 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: just deal with it, you know though. Anyway, that's my sense. 556 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the biggest stories of the twenty 557 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: sixteen campaign that nobody talks about is the actual rig 558 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: job was against Bernie Sanders by the by the d NC, 559 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: And we actually know one hundred percent that happened because 560 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: we saw the emails themselves. Because of the Hillary hacking. Look, 561 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: the market's been brutal. Everyone's talking about inflation. It's everywhere. 562 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: Bunck and I recently met with Dutch Mendenhall. Dutch is 563 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: the founder of rad Diversified. He's a patriot, loves our military, 564 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: gives a lot back to our veterans. 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Learn laugh, 578 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: and join us on the weekend on our Sunday Hang 579 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: with Clay and Buck podcast, Fight It on the iHeart 580 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 581 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. 582 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 4: Coming up in the next hour, We've got Senator Marco Rubio. 583 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: You know he doesn't do. 584 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: A lot of media, so we're looking forward to talking 585 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 4: to him. You know, he's not not say, like Senator 586 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham, who I feel like has a little cot 587 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 4: in the corner of the cable news world where he can. 588 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I would make fun of it, but I 589 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: literally have a camera and a television here, so I can. 590 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: I can go on at any moment too. So it's true, 591 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: I do. 592 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 4: We do feel like content hobbits sometimes, like we're just 593 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 4: in these little ecosystems making talking video TV everything. 594 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, Marco Ruby will be with us. Also, we'll be. 595 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 4: Joined by a very interesting Kentucky governor gubernatorial candidate, Clay 596 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: uh which which we're excited about because I think it's 597 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: a shock to me. Is like I've actually never been 598 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 4: to Kentucky, which is embarrassing. I need to go, but yeah, 599 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: never been, never been. 600 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: I got a text the other day Keeenland is the 601 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: You ever been to a horse race in Kentucky? 602 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: No, let's I think I'm gonna go to the Keenland 603 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: Race next year. I may have been talking to a 604 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: mutual friend of ours about going to check out Kentucky 605 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 4: because I just need to go and I hear, I hear, 606 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: you know, it's beautiful, I hear great things. Anyway, we 607 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: will get to Kelly Kraft. 608 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 609 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 4: She is candidate for the next governor Kentucky. Anyway, it's 610 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: just a shock to anybody who's not from Kentucky that 611 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: you have a Democrat governor there. Crazy all right, we 612 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: have Tim in Michigan wants to weigh in on the 613 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: RFK interview. Tim, what's going on? 614 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, Hey, good afternoon, guys. So hey, really quick, Robert 615 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 8: F K H. Kennedy or whatever, he was just done. 616 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 8: You know he's deciding to Uh yeah, you go. Okay, 617 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 8: So here's so something that maybe you guys are not 618 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 8: aware of it. I just want your listeners to be 619 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 8: to be aware of this. So the guys are fraud cape, 620 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 8: period point blank. What people probably don't realize is there's 621 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 8: actually a video out there of him, okay, specifically saying 622 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 8: that anybody does not believe in climate change and doesn't 623 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 8: support it, that's against it should be in prison. All 624 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 8: you got to do is go uf the YouTube and. 625 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 4: To Tim, Tim, I'm just wondering, have you been listening 626 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: to the show the last hour. I just read a 627 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: quote five minutes ago and called him a climate lunatic. 628 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 4: So you got to, buddy, you gotta stay with us man. 629 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta keep up with us here. You're 630 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 4: going to look you're right. I mean, he's thank you 631 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 4: for calling in Tim and Michigan. I just point this 632 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: stuff out because I think that often we see someone 633 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 4: cross over on one issue and it's worth it, Like 634 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 4: that's what Clay did this interview with him. He's right 635 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 4: on he was right on COVID. He's speaking the truth 636 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: about big farm and that's a good thing. I just 637 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 4: don't want people to start I'm hearing people say like, oh, 638 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 4: maybe he should run with Trump. No, that's a horrible idea. 639 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: That's a horrible idea that's never gonna happen. It's a 640 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: bad idea. He could be a far better choice. 641 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Thing. 642 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: Joe Biden right, as almost anyone would, solely based on 643 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 2: the fact that he's right about one thing. Joe Biden's 644 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: wrong about Beverly everything. 645 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 4: Yes, well, that's fair, right, But I mean to him 646 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 4: teaming up with a Republican, that's it because he is 647 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 4: he's a climate extremist, folks. I mean, he's one of 648 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 4: these people who really thinks the world's gonna and he 649 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 4: believes that stuff. Ronda in Minnesota, Ronda, what do you 650 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: got for. 651 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 9: Us, hey, Buck, you were talking about at the beginning 652 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 9: of the program, having Carrie checked the you know in 653 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 9: San Francisco if they've got all locked up with flexiglass. Well, 654 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 9: I live in Minnesota and we're way ahead of the 655 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 9: current here. California must be following our lead because the 656 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 9: target in downtown Minneapolis did that a long time ago. 657 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 9: They were looted all the time, and so finally they 658 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 9: just if you want toothpaste, you have to get an 659 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 9: employee down lock the cabinet. 660 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 661 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 9: It's not even just like hide things. 662 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: Outrageous. Yeah, this, thank you, Ronda. I didn't know that 663 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 4: was happening in Minnesota. 664 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe that's happening everywhere now. But this is 665 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: how bad the shoplifting has gotten. Do you remember when 666 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: we were kids. 667 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 2: You're much younger than me, obviously, but when we were kids, 668 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: you would get a video game and you would have 669 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: to get like in Toys Rus or whatever the place 670 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: was like, you would have to get them to go 671 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: and unlock it because video games were expensive and they 672 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: were worried about kids stealing them. Everything else, somebody has 673 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: to unlock toothpaste now, like my mind is just blown 674 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: that this is how bad shoplifting has gotten in many 675 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: parts of the country. 676 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: Democrat prosecutors and Democrat controlled cities have not only refused 677 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 4: to enforce the laws, they have effectively nullified them by 678 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 4: putting it out there that. 679 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: There's a limit. 680 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 4: So if you steal less than nine hundred dollars in 681 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 4: San Francisco, you're not even getting arrested. 682 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: Folks. 683 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: That's a lot. 684 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 4: And think of it, all the times people steal, they 685 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 4: don't even get caught. They have legalized stealing. That's what 686 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 4: Democrats do.