1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brainstuff, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey Brainstuff, Lauren 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Vogelbam here. I'm going to start this one off by 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: saying that nutrition is complicated. Our bodies are gloriously weird, 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: and there's still a lot we don't know about how 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: they work, including exactly how the food that we eat 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: affects us. Despite actual millennia of trying to use food 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: to fix pretty much every ailment you can think of 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: around the world, the earliest cookbooks were mostly medical advice. 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Over the years, all kinds of health based diet trends 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: have emerged. Apple cider vinegar as a weight loss agent 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: may have first been promoted by the poet Lord Byron 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: back in the eighteen twenties. Is Sylvester Graham, who technically 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: invented Graham crackers in the eighteen thirties, thought that unseasoned, 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: cold whole wheat and hard beds would keep you healthy. 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: He would not enjoy what we've done with Graham crackers today. 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: And there was a fellow back in the seventeen twenties 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: who simply recommended avoiding swamps to keep yourself slim. A 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: little more recently, there was a major push against fats 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: and cholesterol in our foods. Of people and perhaps particularly marketers, 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: began to wonder whether we could make processed foods healthier, 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: or at least make more people buy them if we 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: could just take the fat out. If you're older then 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: say ten, and perhaps especially if you lived through the 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, you probably remember when every product in 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: the grocery store was touting itself as low fat or 26 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: low cholesterol. By the way, this was the result of 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: a massive campaign vilifying fat in our diets launched by 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: the sugar industry in the nineteen forties. They had doctors 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: and researchers on their payroll. We only started to publicly 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: untangle all of this in the past decade or so. 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Like Twizzlers still sometimes has the words a low fat 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: snack on their packaging, but they didn't really contain any 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: fat to begin with. So all right, if you're looking 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: at something like potato chips, cheese, cookies, or yogurt, how 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: did these products lose their fat content? First off, let's 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: talk about what fat is. We all know what it 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: tastes like or perhaps looks like in our food, but 38 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: when you zoom in on the chemical structure, you'll find 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: that all fats have in common long chains of carbon atoms, 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: with some oxygen and hydrogen atoms thrown in to keep 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: things interesting. Those long carbon chains and fat molecules make 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: it really hard for fats to dissolve in water, so 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: generally to get them to dissolve, you need some sort 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: of organic solvent like chloroform or methylene chloride. You may 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: at first think that washing our fatty foods with one 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: of these solvents would do the trick of removing the fat. 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: It's a good thought, after all, that's often how they 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: remove the caffeine from coffee and tea, but fat actually 49 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: does a lot for our foods, and simply extracting or 50 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: dissolving way the fat will leave us with foods that 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: don't really resemble their original versions. A fat doesn't just 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: add flavor in calories, but also creates texture, helps cooked 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: foods brown, and even extends shelf life. So before we 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: just get rid of the fat, we need to think 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: about how to keep all that flavor and texture in 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: foods so that they're still tasty. Lots of foods, like 57 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: many fruits, vegetables, and grains, contain only tiny amounts of 58 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: fat to start with. But let's look at dairy products. 59 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: When we first obtain milk from a cow or goat, 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: et cetera, it has a good bit of fat in it. 61 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: So how do we take whole milk and create skim milk? Oh, 62 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: the process is pretty simple. Manufacturers put the whole milk 63 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: into a centrifuge that separates out the fat portion for 64 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: cream or butter and leaves behind skim milk. The skim 65 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: milk can then be used to make other dairy products 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: like yogurt or ice cream that are either low fat 67 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: or no fat. However, many of these non fat dairy 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: products that are made from skim milk run into the 69 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: problems we mentioned before. They don't taste as good, their 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: textures are strange, and they may not last as long 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: in our refrigerators. Manufacturers therefore turn to science in order 72 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: to get flavor, texture, and longevity back in the form 73 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: of additives. Many low fat or no fat products are 74 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: created in this way, not by taking the fat out, 75 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: but by never putting the fat in to begin with. 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: In the past, food manufacturers experimented with fat replacements like 77 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: a lestra, but they have yet to find much success 78 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: in their use. The side effects of these materials resulted 79 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: in very poor sales. Let's just leave it at the 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: phrase anal leakage. Okay, so a leustra aside. Instead of 81 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: making a food product, let's say a cookie and sucking 82 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: the fat out, which would leave something behind that is 83 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: no longer anything like a cookie, food scientists need to 84 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: create that cookie from the start, using non fat based 85 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: additives to compensate for all that fat brings to the cookie. 86 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with flavor. Fatty cookie ingredients like butter and 87 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: eggs add a lot of flavor to make up for 88 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: the lack of flavor. When those items aren't used, manufactures 89 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: add in spices, flavorings, and sugar to trick us into 90 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: not noticing the missing fat. This is why low and 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: non fat foods aren't always less caloric as their diet 92 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: name might imply. They often have a ton of extra 93 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: sugar added. A sugar can also help with the texture 94 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: in baked goods a butt. Manufacturers often add food binders 95 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: or thickeners to help make up for the missing fat. 96 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: Things like pectin, guargum, locus bingum, potato starch, and tappyocha 97 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: starch will glom onto water molecules and swell up, replicating 98 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: the full creamy feel of fat and helping retain moisture. 99 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: In some cases, they and the extra water they require 100 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: to work, may need extra science help from an added 101 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: emulsifier or preservative to keep everything together and, in the 102 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: case of those cookies, make them more shelf stable. A 103 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: note that all of these additives are generally recognized as safe. 104 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: It's honestly the extra and perhaps unexpected sugar you should 105 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: be concerned with. As researchers have started to untangle that 106 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: sugar versus fat issue, they found that excess sugar, not fat, 107 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: is more strongly linked with heart disease. So long story short, 108 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: getting the fat out of fat free foods, for the 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: most part, actually means never putting it in to begin with. 110 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: What goes in the place of fat varies, but you'll 111 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 1: often end up with a highly processed food product. And look, 112 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: these days, whole and natural can be marketing terms as 113 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: much as fat free. The only text you should be 114 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: really concerned with on a food package is its nutrition label. 115 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: That'll tell you how much fat and sugar and other 116 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: stuff the product contains, and that in turn will let 117 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: you avoid what you really want to avoid or to 118 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: have a treat. As we've said before, treats are nice. 119 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: Today's episode is based on the article how do they 120 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: get the fat out of fat free Foods? 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