1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. People are asking me what is the most 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: critical component of a car today, The Car Doctor. I've 3 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: got to think it comes back to batteries, and I 4 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: think it's a battery because everything starts with a battery. 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: The battery has got to be, you know, proper size, type, 6 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: cleanliness of the terminal. Welcome to the radio home of 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. 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We're talking everybody, um, like we did last year, 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll try and get any monster on air, 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: but Butch Patrick will be there and Ericastrada from Chips 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: will be there, as well as fifteen or sixteen specialty cars, 46 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: the Batmobile, the bat Boat, and all sorts of the 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: crazy cars from the George Barrass collection as well as 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: others that. Um, you know, we're part of the car culture, 49 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: part of what the sixties and the seventies and the 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: fifties we're all about. So you know we'll be talking 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: about that. But I am here to take your calls 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: and answer your questions. At zero nine zero zero. I 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about exhaust. How hard 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: could it be? And this one kind of got me 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: this week, folks, I gotta tell you, it just sort 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: of made me back on my heels and look a 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: bread and butter two thousand five Toyota camera came in 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: the shop and you know it needed exhaust. What is 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: it twelve years old? It's got a hundred miles on it. 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: And the exhaust flanges and this is common on the 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: cameras and the avalons as well, that they start to 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: rust the exhaust flange where they come together, so it's 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: just a flat flange with a gasket in the middle. 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: The pipes last a long time. They're stainless steel, but 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: the flanges themselves really start to rot and corrode. And 66 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: I actually have pictures of it. Maybe I'll put it 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: up on the Facebook page. You can get out there 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: and take a look. I've got a battery. I want 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: to post a picture of two that's a whole, another 70 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: that was a whole, another car about the guy didn't 71 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: want to fix the battery this week. Um it's it's 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: growing things across the terminals. But back to the Toyota 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: so it needed exhaust. The center pipe and the muffler 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: needed to be replaced. The flanges were so badly rotted. 75 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: The front exhaust pipe was intact and the flange was okay, 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: but you could see the flex coupling was starting to 77 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: come apart. I went over all this with the customer. 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: I explained that all. I showed her everything that we had, 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, everything that we're talking about, and we went 80 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: from there what could go wrong? Looked at it on Monday, 81 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: I need this, this, and this or roll the parts. 82 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: Brought it in on Tuesday. She needed the car back Wednesday. 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give myself a little bit of crush 84 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: room right. Took the exhaust off and the center pipe 85 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: and the muffler, and I take the front pipe, which 86 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: is also a catalytic converter. And I had said to her, 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: I said, you know, if the cat is bad, typical Toyota, 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: there somewhere in the eight range. I said, once in 89 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: a while, you get one that sneaks up on you. 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: And it's fifteen six for this front cat flex pipe 91 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: set up. But it's not common. I should have checked prices, 92 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: so you know, the pipe actually was bad underneath the 93 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: flex coupling. Once the other pipe was off in the 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: sport was gone, I could take that flange and wiggle 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: it and rotated sixty degrees in every direction because it 96 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: was split in the middle. Wasn't leaking, but it was 97 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: a bad coupling. It needed to be replaced. Called Toyota, 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: and she said, yeah, I do what you gotta do. 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: I understand twe it's got to be done. You know, 100 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what Toyota is thinking. I'm not even 101 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: sure if they are thinking. And you know, let me 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: stay I like Toyota, but they all seem to have 103 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: their problems. Here's there's the front exhaust pipe. For a 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: two thousand five camera, a bread and butter. They made 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: gazillions of them because this is an s U l 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: e V, a super Ultra low emission vehicle California Emissions 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: Sue lev all right, it's it's not as common as 108 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: a partial ultra low emission vehicle. This catalytic converter was 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: almost twenty four hundred dollars. Yeah, I'll say that again. 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: The guy at Toyota was shocked. He was sitting there 111 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, he said, I jumped the 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: car and that's exactly what we went through. And I 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: just I almost didn't know what to say. I'll find 114 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: an alternative, and I did. I found one. You know, Walker, fine, 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: it'll last, she'll get three or four years out of it. 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: How much further is she gonna go in this twelve 117 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: year old car? But my point is, is this Toyota 118 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: pushing consumers? And all the car companies do this. I 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't just say, Toyota, are they pushing you towards that 120 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: new car? Is this just their way of doing it? 121 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Because I can't come up with a reason. Why would 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: you annoy somebody that's been loyal to you for twelve years? 123 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: Driven your product for twelve years and enjoys the product. 124 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Why would you drive them out of the car by 125 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: raising the price of the part so much that you 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: sit there and you scratch your head and say, I 127 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: don't want to fix this, I'll go buy another car. 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Is are they really that convinced somebody's gonna automatically come 129 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: back and buy a Toyota. Talking about it with the guys, 130 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: you know the other mechanics, we we almost wonder, you know, 131 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: and we're half kidding, but we say it, is there 132 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: any truth to it? Is Toyota just we don't want 133 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: to fix that twelve year old Toyota. Let the independent 134 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: shops fix it, will just make it so expensive. Nobody 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: wants to fix it with us. They'll go outside the 136 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: dealership chain to work on the car. And I don't 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: know if that's the truth or is it that we're 138 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: raising the price of parts a little higher, in this 139 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: case a lot higher. And now we've got these recoils 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: going on, So the car comes in for a recall 141 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: and maybe you need exhausted. Maybe we've got to do this, 142 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: And that's just the exhaust, that's no labor. The entire 143 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: exhaust system from Toyota all right, was close to in 144 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: parts for an O five Toyota Camera four cylinder bread 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: and butter car. And I'm thinking about that, if that 146 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: was done at the dealer and the little ladies walking 147 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: around the showroom, and you know, the new ones are 148 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: all nice and shiny, maybe I'll take one of those. 149 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Just you know, what are they thinking? I just don't know. 150 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: And here's the downside of all that. I'll throw that 151 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: note doubt. I wrote another note that day. I've been 152 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: running myself a little paste it notes the Toyota crunches, 153 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: I call it. So you know that exhaust system was bad. 154 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: It had rotted and fallen apart. But I've been noticing 155 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: lately a lot of the Toyotas they're getting what I 156 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: call the Toyota crunches on the exhaust. The flanges on 157 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: all of them are starting to split and separate, Their 158 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: starting to rot and fall apart. The pipes last, but 159 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: the flanges don't. Once the flange is gone, you're required 160 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: to have to change it. And I'm thinking to myself, 161 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: is it Yeah, it is planned obsolescence. And now it's 162 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: planned obsolescence and we're not even gonna fix it. Because 163 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be so garsh darn expensive. We're gonna make 164 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: you go back and buy a new car. And none 165 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: of us are seeing that. And then I want to 166 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: lay this one on you. I was talking to my 167 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: friend Chris, national trainer. We we exchange ideas from time 168 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: to time. We were kicking it around. This week we 169 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: said this. We set it together in the conversation and 170 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: this is in line with what I'm saying. I'll show 171 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: you how I'm gonna tie it together in a minute. 172 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: Is twenty twenty going to be the real beginning of 173 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the end? Autonomous vehicles will be out in large numbers. 174 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: In model you you'll see a lot of self driving cars. 175 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we're there now. You know, we're only four 176 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: years from that. But when when those when hits the 177 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: ten cars are going to be those that time period 178 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: six and seven year old used cars. They can't fix 179 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: the used cars. Now, these these tens and elevens and 180 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: the thirteens in the fourteens have got such electronics on them, 181 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: and the the can bus and the data network, and 182 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: the amount of electronics is so far over the head 183 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: of the average technician that will anybody be able to 184 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: fix it, and is technology and the price of replacement 185 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: parts the exhaust system just gonna push everybody into a 186 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: self driving car, which, hey, you know, self driving cars 187 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: are really kind of complicated. Nobody can fix it. So 188 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna make it modular. And something goes bad, it's 189 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna be plug and play, pull it out, put it in, 190 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: and it won't take any brains to fix the car anymore. 191 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: And at that point, thanks Tom. And at that point 192 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Tom's playing on the other side of the glass. Are 193 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: they going to change the definition of the automobile industry 194 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: and the repair the repair aside? It's it's it's coming. 195 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's coming. It's coming. It's coming, and 196 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: we don't see it. And as I said to Chris, 197 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: and he agreed, and he hadn't thought of that. I said, 198 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: you realize when all of this comes about, I don't 199 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: need the snap on guy anymore. I don't need the 200 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: mactool truck driver anymore. I don't need the lunch room 201 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: lady anymore. I don't need the uniform guy. I don't 202 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: need the landscapers that come and trim the shrubs at 203 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: the shop. I don't need. And how much of the 204 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: economy is gonna go away with self driving cars because 205 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: the businesses that use the services to repair cars are 206 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: going to change. You heard it here first. By then 207 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: I'll be doing a political talk show. I can't imagine 208 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: what that would look like, but I guarantee you'll need 209 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: a satellite channel five five zero nine nine zero zero. 210 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm coming back to open the phone lines right after this. 211 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: No no no no, no, no no no no no no 212 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 213 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: no no no no no, no, no no no no, no, no, 214 00:11:41,000 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: no no no. Welcome back. Were the Car Doctor five 215 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: five number. We're not here. Leave a message fast, Harry. 216 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: We'll call you back and get you in the lineup 217 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: for the following week's show. Let's let's kick the garage 218 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: doors open this hour. Let's get over and talk to 219 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: Dan Lacrosse, Wisconsin, two thousand three, Chevy Tahoe. Dan, Welcome 220 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help are run? 221 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: We have any electrical issues front passenger door, the power locks, 222 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: the power windows s heat, nothing works. And you go 223 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: to the driver's side the switches for that window or 224 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: door locks. Nothing works on the driver's side. To run 225 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: that door either. Okay, so there is power to it. 226 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: There's power to what to the to the passenger door, okay, 227 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: but there's no power there is there power to the 228 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: driver's door. Yeah, okay, let's start with the die ignosis 229 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: the driver's door. Who's doing this repair? You or your mechanic? Okay? 230 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Do you have a scan tool? No? Um, you kind 231 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: of need to. Well, it would be nice if I 232 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: had a scan tool. I'd like you to go in 233 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: and look at the body computer and I'd like and 234 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: the PCM, and I'd want to see can it communicate 235 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: with the driver's door module. There's actually a computer in 236 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: that door that runs all those electronics that you're talking about, 237 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: the door locks, the window, um, and so forth. And 238 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: if if you're not getting any response out of that door, 239 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: this could be anything from a broken wire, you know, 240 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: the old school broken wire and the eight pillar that 241 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: we're all familiar with, to what's very common is a 242 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: door module itself. Well, welcome to the age of electronics, right, um, right, 243 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: But that the front pass and you're right, and and 244 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: the the the driver's door module has authority over the 245 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: passenger door on that car. It's um, it's it's kind 246 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: of a different deal. So first things first, uh, you 247 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: know it's if you're not but you're also not getting 248 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: door locks on the driver's door. You said, right, if 249 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: I use the door, you know, the lock all the doors. 250 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: It does them all except the pass front passenger door. Okay, 251 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: So what doesn't work on the driver's door the window 252 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: control for the front passenger and the door lock. You know, 253 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: if I if I hit the master door locked, it'll 254 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: lock all the doors except the left front, except the 255 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: left front, I'm sorry, the right front, the right front. Okay. 256 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: So so everything works. So the driver's door works normal, 257 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: except it has no control over the passenger door, correct, Okay, 258 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: a problem the other side of the truck. It could 259 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: be a passenger door module, all right, and they're and 260 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: they're in the door. They're in the door they're part of. 261 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: So you know, if if if you want, I can, 262 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I can give you some detailed instructions. If you've got 263 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: a pencil handy, I'm kind of driving down the road. 264 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: That'd be hard to do. You know what, Send me 265 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: and send me an email and I'll be glad to 266 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: email it to you. But basically what you're gonna do 267 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: is you're gonna check battery voltage on there's an orange 268 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: wire and you've got to go and verify power and 269 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: grounds at that passenger door module. But see, here's the problem. 270 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: You really are going to need a scanner because you're 271 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: also gonna have to take that module offline. And part 272 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: of the test is there's a brown wire that goes 273 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: up to either one of those modules driver passenger side, 274 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: and we ask you to disconnect the brown wire and 275 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: does the scan tools show no communication? And you know 276 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: if it if it does, it's this. If it doesn't, 277 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: it's that you kind of need to scant tool to 278 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: be able to do this. Do you fix? Do you fix? 279 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Do you fix cars for a living day? Or is 280 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: this is this the part time weekend thing? It's just 281 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: my car? Yeah, um, it's it's been you know, it 282 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: does all sorts of weird stuff. Right, you drive down 283 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: the road and it tells you the back right rear 284 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: doors open. It'll cycle the door locks just driving down 285 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: the road like it's checking to make sure they're locked. 286 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: Have all these problems come up separately and it random 287 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: from one another, or they're all piling in together at 288 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: the same time. Well, they all you know, it just 289 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: kinda like today, It's been fine as far as the 290 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: telling me the back doors open. Yesterday it did it. 291 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes I'll be sitting outside and then all of 292 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: a sudden the alarm goes off. Well I can heard 293 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: out how to how to override that, Yeah, I could. 294 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I could understand that if it thinks the back hatches 295 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: being opened or opened and the vehicles locked in the 296 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: alarm set it thinks somebody's trying to break into the car. 297 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: So you know, not to beat the dead horse. But 298 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: here's a case where yeah, you really need to scantl 299 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: to fix this car. It would make it would make 300 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: a life a whole lot easier. Um. You know, if 301 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: you ever hear me talk about well and I can 302 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: you know what if you go out to Facebook, can 303 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: you get out there? Can you get out to Facebook? Uh? Dan, 304 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: if you get out to my Facebook page, go look 305 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: at the video I just posted about fixing the remote 306 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: start on the two thousand eight jeep. And you know, 307 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: it was a case that the hooded jar switch had 308 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: a broken wire, preventing signal back to the body computer 309 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: to prevent remote start operation. It's just an example of 310 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: how the electronics are incorporated into the car. And there 311 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: was another car, I believe I posted this week about 312 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: a battery and a Hyundai and talking about the amount 313 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: of fault codes that are in there and what's involved 314 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 1: in clearing out fault codes with all the modules in 315 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: this little Lantra, there was a control modules, which is 316 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a nothing car. Uh, you 317 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: know it's But in your case of that Tahoe, you've 318 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: probably got twenty five or more just off the top 319 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: of my head, and that's a two thousand three. And 320 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that to work on that without 321 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: a scan tool, it's it's it really gets to be 322 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of fruitless. It's it's just it'll drive you buggy. 323 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: Cheaper el cheap o scan tools from like Harbor Freight Salvage. 324 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: They know they won't they won't get into the body computer, 325 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: so you know, they won't get into all the modules 326 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: you have to get into. When you're looking at that 327 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: working well, they were, well, were there? Weren't they? That's 328 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: a whole nother conversation because you wonder how good they 329 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: really were and how much work we had to do 330 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, there was less electronics, but a whole 331 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: different kind of animal. So anyway, good lucky Dan. If 332 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: you got any of the question, send me your email 333 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: and that we'll go from there on monet eating the 334 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: car Doctor. I'll be back right after this night. Hey, 335 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: welcome back. Why don't they need the car doctor at 336 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: your service? And uh, just a fun segment here on 337 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. I always enjoyed talking to this next gentleman, 338 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: A fountain of knowledge and um, always a good time. 339 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I really enjoy getting together with Jim. We have for 340 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: these many years. I think it's coming up on ten 341 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: years now. I know Jim donnally and we've actually bumped 342 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: into each other a few car shows. Mr Donnelly, how 343 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: are you, sir? I'm doing well. Dr Ron Renee and 344 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: how are you doing? I hope you're doing well. I'm 345 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: doing well. I have no complaints. Life is good. So um, 346 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: how's things in the Jim Donnelly Nick of the Woods, 347 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: The Jim Dolly Nick of the Woods is doing well. 348 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: I just had my second book published by Tashen out 349 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: of Bonn, Germany. Um, it's on automotive advertising. And I 350 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: had a nice article published in the Pebble Beach Concorde 351 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Deleghons program. But right now, what we're really doing all 352 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: of us at Hemmings is getting into our month of Glory. 353 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: We've already had our Hemmings Sports and Exotic Car Show 354 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: at Saratoga Springs this coming Sunday, not tomorrow, excuse me, 355 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: the following Sunday. Uh In September, we're going to have 356 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: Muscle Palooza Eleven Valley Dragway, and then at the end 357 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: of the month we are going to have our tenth 358 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: Concour Delegans at the Saratoga Automobile Museum and Saratoga Springs. 359 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: We're excited about that. Let's talk about Muscle Paloosa first. 360 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, I was I was reading about this. This 361 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: is this is a big show. There's a lot going 362 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: on here. Oh yes, there is. There's drag racing, there's 363 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: a muscle car show. It's it's it's there's a lot. 364 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: This is like the old days of hot rod. This 365 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: is the woodstock of upstate New York um as opposed 366 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: to the old woodstock of up state New York. We 367 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: have had cars. They're up to about the thousand vehicle mark, 368 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: which lists to the point where we had to shut 369 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the gates by about ten o'clock and not let anybody 370 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: else in if the weather is good. That's what kind 371 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: of show muscle pulloses. And we also have a drag 372 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: racing exhibition by the fast Guys as we call them. 373 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: It stands for factory appearing street tires ron. These are 374 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: concourse level muscle cars, although the time you're looking at 375 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: could just as well as easily be a five. There's 376 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: nothing outward to indicate that there are anything other than 377 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: totally stock. And they run the tents stock cars running 378 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: in the tents on street tires. Correct. Wow, So it's 379 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: it's it's really the way it was stoplight to stop 380 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: light back in the sixties and the seventies. Yeah, and 381 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: they're not soaked tires either. Um, this is the way 382 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: it used to be. And the cars could could go 383 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: on to the show field Pebble Beach as far as 384 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm concerned or our concourse. They are indistinguishable from totally stock. 385 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: So if someone's looking for that Copo Camaro or that 386 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Yanko Camaro or that Hemi convertible, this might be the 387 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: place that they'll find it. Indeed it is. And also 388 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: things like uh a Cobrad jet Cougar or a UM 389 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: nineties six nine trans Am or an Ellie Corvette. They 390 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: all participate and they knock our records down every time 391 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: we offer him a thousand bucks to do what it seems. 392 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: So that's muscle ploza um. And there's gonna be troll fees, 393 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be obviously a car show there, and uh, 394 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: is it is it? Is it just American cars? Or 395 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: is it? Is it everything? Is it? Is it European too? Well? 396 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Typically the way the thing goes is that our judge 397 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: car shows for American cars because it's based off the 398 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: how do we say this the theme of Hemmings Muscle 399 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: Machines magazine and our franchises American muscle cars. UM. That's 400 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: not to say if you didn't show up with the 401 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: Hudson UM twin H Hornet, we wouldn't accept you into 402 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: our car show. We would. We accept a lot of 403 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: AMC cars. We've had Nash type cars a couple of times, 404 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: and but it's got to be American and um. As 405 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: far as foreign cars go, the event is open to 406 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to come and drag race. So if 407 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: you have a nuts, says farm Car obviously, but if 408 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: you have a Dodge Neon or if you have a 409 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: Honda Civic, that's a really hot front tread boiling number 410 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: on the quarter mile, by all means, bring it, take 411 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: it down the track. Cool. Cool. Now that's next. That's 412 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: next weekend, right, that's Sunday, September. That's gonna be this 413 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: coming Sunday at Lebanon Valley Dragway in West Lebanon, New 414 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: York on US twenty. But now what's going on September. 415 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: That's a whole another thing. Saratoga, Well, yes, September when 416 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: we have our concourse weekend at the Saratogabile Museum at 417 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: Saratoga Spa State Park in Saratoga Springs, which I realized 418 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: takes a long time to spit out, but that's where 419 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: it is, and it's a lovely, lovely location for a 420 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: car show. It really is round. It's since national. We 421 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: have a reflecting pool to line our lead classes up 422 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: around and it just spirals out from there and we're 423 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: expecting about a hundred and twenty five cars and they're 424 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: going to go everywhere from full classics to tailfin cars, 425 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: to Cobridgette Mustangs to one of my favorites, and I'm 426 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: sure they're one of your favorites too. The fifties anniversary 427 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: of the Oldsmobile Toronado and the cat like Eldorado. It 428 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: can't be fifty years, kenn. It makes you feel old, 429 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: doesn't it? A little bit? A little bit? You know, Jimmy, 430 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: I'm listening to you talk, and I'm thinking, you know, 431 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: the reflective pool and the tailfin cars, and listen to 432 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: the way you talk and what you talk about, and 433 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: there's there's a passion when you talk about the older cars. 434 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: So fast forward fifty years from now and we're gonna 435 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: be talking about four escapes. What do you think? Probably 436 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: not with this kind of degree of of of intent, 437 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: right well, I mean it'd be around by then. But um, 438 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one car is gonna um get deservedly 439 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: a lot of at tension is the Explorer, which completely 440 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 1: redefined the segment of the auto industry. I think the 441 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety excuse me, ninety oh, it's not even the 442 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: nineties car. Excuse me forgive me six four Tourists will 443 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: be regard as a landmark car. I think the Corvette 444 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: will be regarded as a landmark car. And you think 445 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: these are the cars that will be in the car 446 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: shows of the future, Oh, absolutely absolutely, And the ones 447 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: of the past will be there were always because our 448 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: experience has been that respect and admiration for those cars 449 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: never goes away generationally. If anything, it's just intensifies. Hey, listen, 450 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: can I ask you to do me a favor? Sure 451 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: you want, buddy, all right? Seventy two Monty Carlos Autumn 452 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: gold white, vinyl top, bucket seats preferred automatic on the floor. 453 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I'll take a small block, but a big block would 454 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: be nice. See what you can find. I'm not looking 455 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: for a concourse car, Jimmy. You see more car shows 456 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: than i'd though. All right, okay, I'm looking for I'm 457 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: looking for a driver. You stay in touch, my friend. 458 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: You gotta give me a ride in it, all right? 459 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: But speed if I can, well you know that would 460 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: be a whole another story. But yeah, if you come 461 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: across it. So listen. If the listeners, if the listeners 462 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: want to get more information, where where can they go 463 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: get it? On either one of these events coming up 464 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: for you, guys in Emmy's simply go to w W 465 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: W dot Hemmings H. E. M. M. I n g 466 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: S dot com no spaces and go to the events 467 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: tab and pull it down and you can learn everything 468 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: about these shows. Okay, hey, listen, October, I want you 469 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: to come back. I want you to talk to us 470 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more about some of the upcoming full 471 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: car shows and what's going on, and keep us a breast. 472 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: You got it, buddy, all right, I'll talk to you. Jimmy, 473 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: take good care. Eight zero zero run any of the 474 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: car doctor. We are back right after this. I ain't 475 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: never being with the woman. Welcome back, r the car doctor. 476 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: Let's get over to the busy phones and talk to 477 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Ron and Smithfield, North Carolina. Ron, welcome back, Welcome sir. 478 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? How you doing? I'm having 479 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: with my God's caravan? Okay, talk to me. What do 480 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: you got wrong? What's going on? I've got the guys 481 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: caravan that says having an overheating problem. I changed out 482 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: the radiator, I put a new sermost in it. I 483 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: changed out the heat temperature sensor. The fans still don't 484 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: get going, so I changed out the fan related the 485 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: fuse and the box is still working fine, but yet 486 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: still when it reaches a certain temperature, the fan will 487 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: not come home. Adal fan. Now, No, let me ask 488 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: you this. How do you know how hot it's running? 489 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: Are using the gauge on the dash or do you 490 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: have a scan tool? No? I just let it keep 491 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: running to until you start circulating. I go out, I 492 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: reach out, I hold onto the hose. The holes get real, real, 493 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: real hot when it flashes through. So the water is 494 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: passing through like it's supposed to, but it's starts getting 495 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: hot to the point to where the water starts coming 496 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: out of the cap. So it starts to boil over 497 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: out of the cap, which which over into the overflow? 498 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: Which engine? Is this a three? Three? Or three? Are? 499 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: Is a three? Oh? So? This is the three oh 500 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: Mitsu motor? This is this is the Mitsubishi motor. This 501 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: is a three leader of Mitsubishi motor. Right right, okay, um, 502 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's not a fan issue. 503 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: If you turn there, does this car have air conditioning? 504 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: Does it work? No? The air condition is not working. 505 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: First thing I'd like to do is established is the 506 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: fan capable of working? All? Right? And you know this 507 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: should be a four wire fan relay? Right For a while, 508 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: I did jump the fan off. I went from the 509 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: batter straight to the fan van switch and both fans 510 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: do run. Okay, if you if you ground the relay 511 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: control wire at the relay to the fans run mhm. 512 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: I really don't know about that idea. I just went 513 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: straight to well, yeah, that just tells the straight to 514 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: the wires yet where the plug in is. Yeah, but 515 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: you know what all that tells you is that the 516 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: fans that you just bought worked. And I get that. 517 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: But how about we test the circuit. There should be 518 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: a four wire fan relay, the fan relays mounted on 519 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: the left left frame rail so to speak. Right, You've 520 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: got you've got four wires there. You've got a gray 521 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: which is gonna be the hot from the fuse, all right. 522 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: You've got a dark green which is gonna be output 523 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: to the fan. You've got a black which is chassis ground. Okay. 524 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: The fourth wire should be a light green. That's the 525 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: fan control going to the PCM going to the computer. Okay, 526 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: all right, that's the that's the one I put the 527 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: light on. I put a took a ground wire and 528 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: with the light and I touched it after I grounded 529 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: it and it lit up. But do the fans run 530 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: the fans run. Okay, if you cut that light green wire, 531 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: find a spot where you can cut it so you 532 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: can soilder it back together. If you cut that light 533 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: green wire the fans and ground that light green, the 534 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: fans have to run the one period end of conversation, 535 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the engine temperature is. You have now 536 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: you have now become the command authority. You have overridden 537 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: the PCM and its control. If the if the fans 538 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: don't run, then something is bad in that circuit. Either 539 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: you don't have power at the gray, you don't have 540 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: continuity between the relayout put on dark green going out 541 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: to the fans, or the ground on the black isn't complete. 542 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Makes sense? Okay? Well, I noticed when I when I 543 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: went to Chinese, the wires out that they whoever added 544 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: before that hand, there's two wires coming out like their 545 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: group like two grounds. But then they had a piece 546 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: of metal wrapped around it's squeezing it together, and uh, 547 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: they had that what do you call that heat tube 548 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: on it closed it around it's all. When I got that, 549 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: I separated it and then I put it. I put 550 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: it back together. But hey, Ron, let me ask you 551 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: a question. You got email uh, I don't have email 552 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: address set up. If you can, if you could email 553 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: me a request, I will send you a wiring diagram 554 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: because my advice is, get your hands on a wiring 555 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: diagram for this car and restore the wiring harness. Make 556 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: sure what you're dealing with is as per factory before 557 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: you go any further and spend any more money. Because 558 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're gonna, you're gonna, you're you're gonna 559 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: waste your time. So if you can send me an 560 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: email Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com, I'll send 561 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: you a wiring diagram. If you can get yourself a 562 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: wiring diagram for this take a look at those four 563 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: wires coming out of the relay and you'll see why 564 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: I said, if you cut that light green, put it 565 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: to the the ground. The fans have to work. I mean, 566 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: that's the laws of physics. It's just the way it's 567 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna be. If it doesn't, there's a problem there somewhere else. 568 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: Zero coming back to wrap it up right after this, 569 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: the kind doctor welcome back. Hey listen, we're gonna go 570 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: to my new co host Frank from Congress New York. 571 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm running the needing of the car doctor. I'm mana. 572 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a billing to my buddy Frank. Frank, 573 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: how are you today? My man? What can I do 574 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: for you? I got a minute and a half, my friend, good, 575 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: my friend, keep safely so I know we gotta be quick. 576 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: Two calls ago, same thing, Uh, same thing for would 577 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: explore two thousand two? When does wear I'm working the 578 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: long is going off? So so on? Uh you want 579 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: to start you right on? Cue you do with the wires? 580 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: Check your paddle? Now what paddle do you use the most? 581 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: The driver aside? So you want to work your way 582 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: towards that tid also, but that's where my problem was 583 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: with that, and I'm gonna go nothing. I'm very impressed 584 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: with you call as the wires today. You're doing a 585 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: good job. Well you know I'm trying. I've been doing 586 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: this a while now. If you asked me what I 587 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: had for dinner last night, I couldn't tell you. But 588 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: I mean I think when I went when my wife 589 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: could data, I have to ask it. I remember, I 590 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: remember wire colors like they're nothing. It's um. Sometimes have 591 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: a hard time remembering my name. Listen always a pleasure, sir, 592 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: Listen gonna are we gonna see you know that came 593 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: on the car shows. Please have him come back. That's great, 594 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: great September three. Al Right, baby, that was my question. 595 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: Into you always a good thing, you know. I like 596 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: you know. I'm telling you we could be the Ron 597 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: and Frank show. What do you think, Tom, we could? 598 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, let's hire him out. We'll make him a 599 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: co host. Good. Thanks Frank, you two, and thanks for you, 600 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, Franks, Frank, Frank's Franks of volunteer fireman out 601 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: there in Congress, New York and for all the boys 602 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: and girls in red and blue and keep us safe, 603 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: and for all the folks in green, and for everything else. 604 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: You know what country is going through some tough times, 605 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: and it's people like that that step up and deliver 606 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: to keep us going and keep America what it is today. 607 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: So we thank you for all your efforts, all of 608 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: you people out there that are doing what you gotta do. Hey, 609 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: I love being here. It's been a great weekend with you, 610 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: and I thank you for letting me be part of it. 611 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm not any in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive. 612 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: Your place to see you