Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February third. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: and now a guy who will fight to her name
Speaker 1: to retain the name, Commander J. P. Chad Rick. Welcome on.
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon and a
Speaker 1: busy show ahead. Oh there's really no new news yet,
Speaker 1: but here's what's coming up. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lagerman's coming up.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in a few weeks. Jaguars continue
Speaker 1: the coaching search. There are rumors and reports will get
Speaker 1: to some of those will take a look at the
Speaker 1: NFL head coach Tracker, teams that have hired and the
Speaker 1: teams that have yet to hire head coaches. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: interview tracker as well, names that they have interviewed and
Speaker 1: maybe are currently who knows, well, look at that coming up? Well,
Speaker 1: of course, go around the National Football League. A busy
Speaker 1: offseason already around the league. Newsworthy and it's not even
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl yet. Jeff Loggingman with us now Jaguars analysts.
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, what's up? Logs, Good afternoon. Haven't seen you
Speaker 1: in about what three or four weeks something like that.
Speaker 1: Hasn't been that lot it's been a hot minute. Was
Speaker 1: it the season? Yeah, I guess it was. It was
Speaker 1: last week, so that would be I was on vacation
Speaker 1: last week, JP. Yeah, well good and rightly so yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it was good. Uh had a little trip to the
Speaker 1: mountains of Tennessee and I got to see what the
Speaker 1: Smoky Mountain draw about. So it was a great vacation,
Speaker 1: great getaway. Thought for sure that the Jaguars would have
Speaker 1: a head coach hired by then, but not. Well, the
Speaker 1: reports where they were close, and then they weren't, and
Speaker 1: maybe they're close again, but who knows. We have not
Speaker 1: seen the white smoke out of the chimney yet. I
Speaker 1: really believed that this this job last year was the
Speaker 1: most attractive in the National Football League. You had a
Speaker 1: first overall draft pick with the possibility of drafting Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: You had a team that was flush with cap room,
Speaker 1: that had plenty, I mean, a full array of draft picks.
Speaker 1: And then Urban Meyer is hired, and I really believe
Speaker 1: that this could have been the number one most attractive
Speaker 1: job as well this year, and for whatever reason, it
Speaker 1: hasn't been that. And you can point to a lot
Speaker 1: of different things, but the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: is that five openings have been filled before this one
Speaker 1: has been filled. And if this was the number one
Speaker 1: attractive job, then people would have been holding out hope
Speaker 1: to get this job at some point. And so here
Speaker 1: it is. You know that there's there's four openings left.
Speaker 1: This team is is one of them, and uh, we're
Speaker 1: still kind of waiting to see what's gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: I think that's a very curious situation to go from
Speaker 1: from last year this being the hot job to take
Speaker 1: and and the number one job to take where it
Speaker 1: could have been this year, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: here we are in this hiring cycle. And you know
Speaker 1: that that that brings more questions into the equation. By
Speaker 1: the way, we're right at fifty days since Ervin Maya
Speaker 1: was fired seven weeks, you know, so you have a
Speaker 1: head start on a lot of teams, which which also
Speaker 1: should have been able to give you an edge in
Speaker 1: the evaluation of your of your coaching search. And and look,
Speaker 1: I'm all about getting it right. So if if making
Speaker 1: it take longer means getting it right, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of times if you're not
Speaker 1: making the right decision in an expedient manner. I think
Speaker 1: it hampers a lot of other things that you would
Speaker 1: try to do as an organization with the subsequent hirings
Speaker 1: after your head coach is hired. Let's take a look
Speaker 1: at the NFL head coach tracker. As you said, logs,
Speaker 1: five teams have hired coaches, well, four officially. One is
Speaker 1: coming officially after the Super Bowl. Matt ebra Flus is
Speaker 1: going to the Bears, Made Hackett to the Broncos, Josh
Speaker 1: McDaniels to the Raiders, Brian Dable to the Giants, and
Speaker 1: then after the Super Bowl has done, Kevin O'Connell has
Speaker 1: an agreement apparently with the Vikings will make that official
Speaker 1: by rule after the day after most likely the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: U four teams open, of course, the Jags, the Saints,
Speaker 1: the Texans, and the Dolphins are remaining. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: the Texans job. I think that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about that one. It was reported today they're down
Speaker 1: to three finalists for that gig, by the way, and
Speaker 1: then the Saints. I mean that was something that kind
Speaker 1: of came out of left field with the retirement, and
Speaker 1: uh so, I don't know what's going to happen there.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins, I think also has you know, these are
Speaker 1: curious situations that remain. And and the reason I say
Speaker 1: that is that you the all the openings that you
Speaker 1: looked at. For the most part, with the Giants, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Broncos, the Bears, for the most part,
Speaker 1: it was kind of a hiring GM and coach. I
Speaker 1: think the one thing that was a little bit different
Speaker 1: was the Denver Broncos situation because Patton was hired I
Speaker 1: believe after Vic Fangio was was hired. So but for
Speaker 1: the most part, you've you've brought two guys in together.
Speaker 1: And so with the Dolphins, the Jaguars, and the Saints
Speaker 1: and the Texans, there's existing personnel guys that are already there.
Speaker 1: And could that be a hindrance to some people maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of times there's not a
Speaker 1: relationship with what may be viewed as a top candidate
Speaker 1: with the person that is in personnel. So a lot
Speaker 1: of times when they are hired together, they're they're kind
Speaker 1: of joined at the hip and some in in some
Speaker 1: respect just like you know what they've called well and
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley, when when they were hired. It was kind
Speaker 1: of okay, these two guys are together for the most part.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Jaguars interview tracker via
Speaker 1: NFL dot com and they have listed all of the
Speaker 1: reported names that have interviewed with the Jags. There's a
Speaker 1: long list for the Jaguars. By the way, we mentioned
Speaker 1: some of those earlier have already gone on to other gigs.
Speaker 1: Era Fluce Hackett, Kevin O'Connell is depending higher by the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and you know some of these other names. Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: was at least in touch with the Jags, but then
Speaker 1: decided to remain the Cowboys defensive coordinator. Some of these
Speaker 1: guys got second interviews, some did not, But it did
Speaker 1: feel like there was a report this past week that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were putting in to talk to Kevin O'Connell,
Speaker 1: but then they had to wait until after the Super Bowl. Well,
Speaker 1: now O'Connell's been hired. That was like they had to
Speaker 1: wait after the Super Bowl because they didn't have a
Speaker 1: first first interview in that window they didn't have it.
Speaker 1: But since he is now, by the way, real by
Speaker 1: the way, that if that were the case, if you
Speaker 1: tried to interview Kevin O'Connell, and you weren't aware of
Speaker 1: the rules of not having the first interview, then, than
Speaker 1: shame on you for not knowing the rule correct. That
Speaker 1: was the latest name to be added to the Jaguars list,
Speaker 1: I believe the last name. So since he's been hired,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's any more dark horse
Speaker 1: candidates coming out. You would think at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there are. But it's kind of going back
Speaker 1: to the names that we've seen reported the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, guys like Leftwitch and Peterson, and I think,
Speaker 1: first of all, both of those would be tremendous candidates.
Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson, super Bowl winner, proven guy Byron
Speaker 1: Leftwich has got a link to the franchise. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the reports that he wanted to
Speaker 1: have Adrian Wilson in as general manager. Could there be
Speaker 1: a dark horse candidate? I say absolutely. And the reason
Speaker 1: I say that is that a lot of the teams
Speaker 1: in this head coaching hiring process have been very transparent
Speaker 1: and that Okay, hey, we interviewed, they put out on Twitter,
Speaker 1: we interviewed so and so and uh and tomorrow we're interviewing.
Speaker 1: So and so there hasn't been any of that with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars that there. It's been very secretive in some respects.
Speaker 1: And so when you say there are no dark horse
Speaker 1: candidates anymore, who the hell knows? Right? I mean, we
Speaker 1: don't really know. I mean what the list of the
Speaker 1: interview list that that we compiled there, that that we
Speaker 1: com compiled NFL dot com. I mean, we didn't put
Speaker 1: that list togother. I mean, that's what they're speculating. But
Speaker 1: none of that has been quote unquote confirmed. So you know,
Speaker 1: so I I could there be a dark horse Canada,
Speaker 1: Sure could be. Is it likely? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's rights say no chance, but there's always Hey,
Speaker 1: look unless you're sitting in the room with them. You know,
Speaker 1: you know that movie Dumb and Dumber. So you're saying
Speaker 1: there's a chance, which one of the greatest lines ever.
Speaker 1: So that's where we stand. I mean, there's and to
Speaker 1: your point, it was February three, right, there's only four
Speaker 1: teams remaining. Two hire coaches. These other staffs are already
Speaker 1: starting to come together around the new head coaches. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 1: even Kevin O'Connell i guarantee you has already putting a
Speaker 1: staff together at the same time that he's putting together
Speaker 1: with his head coach a game plan for the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's what you do. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if you've got an opportunity to be the head coach,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna sit back and hey, look, you know,
Speaker 1: I really got to concentrate on the super Bowl. You know. Uh,
Speaker 1: I can't worry about putting my staff together. What now,
Speaker 1: I'm putting the staff together. I'm getting on the phone
Speaker 1: in my spare time every chance that I get, and
Speaker 1: I'm texting guys between you know, game plan meetings for
Speaker 1: the super Bowl because I'm telling Sean McVeigh, Look, man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be a head coach with the vikings.
Speaker 1: I gotta get my stuff together. Man. Okay, you can
Speaker 1: handle the game plan, and I'll help you as much
Speaker 1: as I can, but I gotta, I gotta, I gotta work, man,
Speaker 1: you know so. I mean, look, the guys are putting
Speaker 1: staffs together, and that's when when you've had an opening
Speaker 1: for fifty days or however long it span. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's one of the great advantages to having the first
Speaker 1: opportunity at hiring somebody is to be kind of first
Speaker 1: in line. For first of all, you want to cherry
Speaker 1: pick your head coach, and then once you get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to get the pick of the litter, then you
Speaker 1: can cherry pick or get the pick of the litter
Speaker 1: with your staff. And that's I mean, that's critical. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I really believe that that's critical, especially when
Speaker 1: you have a staff that there's not gonna be or
Speaker 1: apparently not going to be a connection with the past regime.
Speaker 1: For example, like the Baltimore Ravens. You know, if if
Speaker 1: something happened with John Horball to our John Harball decided
Speaker 1: not to coach anymore, they're probably gonna hire a guy
Speaker 1: that has some connection to the Ravens organization, which then
Speaker 1: and would follow that some of the guys that are
Speaker 1: already on the staff are gonna be retained by the
Speaker 1: new head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. With this staff
Speaker 1: which was put together by former college coach, how many
Speaker 1: people from the staff are gonna be staying on board, Well,
Speaker 1: they've already started to go away. I mean, a handful
Speaker 1: of already taking gigs elsewhere college jobs and there's reports
Speaker 1: that Joe Colin there were people taking job before the
Speaker 1: season ended. George Warhops interviewing. That was a report a
Speaker 1: while ago. So I mean, yeah, So, I mean that's
Speaker 1: I think that's the hard part, and I think that
Speaker 1: makes it a little bit frustrating, is that, Okay, did
Speaker 1: did you get the pick of the letter from from
Speaker 1: the head coaching availability? I mean you could say maybe not.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, maybe you do. Maybe you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the guy that you were tagging all along, or
Speaker 1: that you had in your sights all along. But when
Speaker 1: what has been forty nine or fifty days, sometimes it
Speaker 1: gives the appearance certainly that that's not the case. And
Speaker 1: then I can tell you right now that you're losing
Speaker 1: out on hiring staff. In fact, indisputable, you are losing
Speaker 1: out on hiring the best of the best. From a
Speaker 1: staff perspective. Here's a question for you. Maybe well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get an answer to this question. We want answers
Speaker 1: on this show. I want to how much how important
Speaker 1: is the staff as opposed to the talent and the personnel.
Speaker 1: The talent you have to have the talent, how much
Speaker 1: can the staff actually do if you're you know, really talented.
Speaker 1: I'm still a big believer in that in that coaching matters,
Speaker 1: you know, and looking I've heard many people talk about
Speaker 1: it's not about the xs and o's, it's about the
Speaker 1: jimmy's and the jails, and that's true, but excess and
Speaker 1: os matters too. And anybody that believes that any part
Speaker 1: of an organization is not as important as another part
Speaker 1: should be fired immediately. Because I'm a I'm a strong
Speaker 1: believer in that everything matters, um And when I say
Speaker 1: everything matters from from the assistant coaches that you have,
Speaker 1: to your coordinators to your head coach, and obviously the
Speaker 1: head coach has to be a tremendous leader. Who you
Speaker 1: have in management from a personnel standpoint, who's picking the
Speaker 1: players to come in? That matters. It matters the players
Speaker 1: that you have and the background and the values that
Speaker 1: they bring from a playing skill set standpoint, but also
Speaker 1: from value standpoint and how they're built internally at all matters.
Speaker 1: And if and if you're not trying to get better
Speaker 1: in all areas and getting the best that you can
Speaker 1: be in all areas, then I think you have less
Speaker 1: of a chance of being a consistent winner. That's that's
Speaker 1: one of the beauties when you look at the organizations
Speaker 1: that have a history of winning, they have a history
Speaker 1: of consistency with their coaching staff, house and from an
Speaker 1: organizational standpoint, and they've got quality people. Quality people. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know when I the New England Patriots, I mean
Speaker 1: it starts with one guy in Bill Belichick. Okay, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't do it by himself. He has a trusted
Speaker 1: uh collection of people and it's not easy to be
Speaker 1: come part of that circle of trust with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: And I bring up the Ravens because the Ravens have
Speaker 1: been able to do it through multiple types of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They've been able to do it through multiple personnel executives,
Speaker 1: from Ozzy Newsome to the to the new guy what's
Speaker 1: his name, uh, Toronto blank. But anyway, the new guy
Speaker 1: that they have who worked under Ozzie and who by
Speaker 1: the way, refused many jobs to stay on board with
Speaker 1: the Ravens because he knew that he was going to
Speaker 1: be the eventual replacement Dozzy Knewsom. But I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's what you need to strive to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: that organization, I think has done a fantastic job and
Speaker 1: they have groomed a lot of coaches from their own staff.
Speaker 1: How many coaches did you see them have to where else?
Speaker 1: Said they lose a coordinator, whether it be offensive or defensive,
Speaker 1: and then they're just promoting from what's end because there
Speaker 1: they know the way that they want it done in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: And I have great appreciation for John Harball. I think
Speaker 1: John Harball, I think the ownership in Baltimore, Ozzy Newsom,
Speaker 1: I think helps set a standard there. And that's why
Speaker 1: they went all the time. We saw it firsthand training
Speaker 1: camp a few years ago, going up there and seeing
Speaker 1: how they work in the building and operate their organization firsthand.
Speaker 1: Look at it for the Jaguars a few years back.
Speaker 1: I let's come back in a moment, plenty more ahead.
Speaker 1: A little later. We'll go around the National Football League,
Speaker 1: plenty of storylines, and we're not even to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl yet. We're over a week from the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and it feels like this is a LONGUS off season. Ever,
Speaker 1: by the way, that was one of the best championship
Speaker 1: weekends in a long time. We'll get to that when
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman, Glad you're along with us. Joe Fortunato on
Speaker 1: the audio, Brent Reber on the video side. The off
Speaker 1: season is here. The wheels are turning for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: We think there's some reports and things going on, but
Speaker 1: nothing has been announced as of yet. Some of the
Speaker 1: reported names that have interviewed for the Jaguar's head coaching
Speaker 1: job have taken other gigs already of course, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of feels like the wheels are
Speaker 1: turning though, right. I mean there's these well mean to
Speaker 1: me because you're spinning. Well they're not spending too quickly apparently,
Speaker 1: but you're starting to see these other names um come out.
Speaker 1: Like today. There was a report again today from Mike
Speaker 1: garre Full of NFL Network the Jaguars are working towards
Speaker 1: adding former Vikings GM Rick Spielman to the front office
Speaker 1: in an unspecified role. He's had a long career in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. He's been the GM of the
Speaker 1: Vikings since through this past season when they cleaned house there.
Speaker 1: He've been with the Vikings since oh six. So you
Speaker 1: start seeing names like that. You mentioned Adrian Wilson a
Speaker 1: moment ago with the left Wich stuff last week. You know,
Speaker 1: is this more than a head coaching change? Trent Bulky
Speaker 1: is the general manager for the Jaguars. What does Mr
Speaker 1: kan have in mind? That only Mr Khan knows that obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I think that's a great question. Um. There have
Speaker 1: been reports that that some people were not thrilled about
Speaker 1: the opportunity here because Trent Balky was in place. Is
Speaker 1: that factual information? I don't know. I haven't talked to
Speaker 1: any of those people, but I will tell you this
Speaker 1: that when reports start coming out about a Spielman or
Speaker 1: a Wilson or something of that nature, you know reports
Speaker 1: of any other old saying is where they're smoked, there's fire,
Speaker 1: But in what capacity? What is the structure of the
Speaker 1: organization going to be? And that and that's why you
Speaker 1: just have to kind of wait and see what ownership
Speaker 1: is gonna do, because I mean, that's that's his decision
Speaker 1: when when he decides to make the call on who,
Speaker 1: and then also what he's gonna let us know. And
Speaker 1: the structure could be anything. Could it? Could it involved
Speaker 1: an e v P to where the e v P
Speaker 1: has a general manager and a coach? Yeah, could it be?
Speaker 1: Are you just have a gentle manager and a coach
Speaker 1: and then they both report directly to him? Sure? I
Speaker 1: don't know if if and then to the owner. There's
Speaker 1: all those possibilities. The one thing I think that I'm
Speaker 1: a big believer in and that when somebody gets an
Speaker 1: opportunity to be the head coach, that's gonna it's there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of money with the opportunity of
Speaker 1: being a head coach, and so I think I think
Speaker 1: some people view that as quote unquote striking the lottery.
Speaker 1: And so if you're, if you're And that's why I
Speaker 1: think this hiring process can be so challenging, is that
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you get a person
Speaker 1: that it's not about the money. It's about it's about
Speaker 1: the team, and it's about winning. It's about culture. It's
Speaker 1: more than just about me the head coach, And boy,
Speaker 1: am I gonna be set for life because I just
Speaker 1: got million dollars guaranteed. That's not what it can be about.
Speaker 1: And that's those people are hard to find, Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean we look Andy Reid. I think is is a
Speaker 1: perfect example of the guy, the type of guy that
Speaker 1: you're looking for, John Harball. They're driven more than just money.
Speaker 1: Do they want to be compensated fairly, sure, everybody does,
Speaker 1: but it's more than than just the money, and so
Speaker 1: that I think that's very challenging. It's it's no different
Speaker 1: than finding the right people on the personnel side of things.
Speaker 1: You have to find people that whose agenda includes getting
Speaker 1: this organization to be a perennial winner, a consistent winner.
Speaker 1: It's not about well, I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: I'm taking care of I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: my political power is still intact. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that my contract is where it needs to be. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean that you've got to find people that they
Speaker 1: are so far above and beyond that. It's about the
Speaker 1: brand and the logo and the team and the people
Speaker 1: in the organization. And that's not easy to find. Know
Speaker 1: that's that and uh, you know it's really not There's
Speaker 1: only a few organizations around the league. I think you
Speaker 1: could say have been stable over a long period of
Speaker 1: time in that regards. It's not it's not easy. It's
Speaker 1: it's not easy. And uh, and what's the right way
Speaker 1: to do things? I don't think there's a right way.
Speaker 1: There's there's some teams that that ownership is involved in
Speaker 1: a in a day to day process and I think
Speaker 1: that that helps in a lot of ways to for
Speaker 1: the awareness of things that are happening on a day
Speaker 1: to day basis. If if you have somebody like Mr
Speaker 1: Khan who is involved in in other businesses and is
Speaker 1: not here on a day to day basis, do you
Speaker 1: need to have that e v P. That person who
Speaker 1: can see things on a day to day basis and
Speaker 1: who can evaluate with experienced eyes. I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: mean there's a there's a case to be made for
Speaker 1: having a lot of different formulations and and setups to
Speaker 1: the organization structure. But but most important only you have
Speaker 1: to find those people that the agenda is lacking. And
Speaker 1: it's when I say the agenda, the personal agenda takes
Speaker 1: a back seat to what the team and organizational agenda is.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just off the cuff here thinking you
Speaker 1: know around the league, top cultural destinations around the league,
Speaker 1: most stable organizations, and number one in my mind's Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: They don't change coaches, ever, the ownership has been there
Speaker 1: forever well, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England, Patriots, Baltimore Ravens. Right,
Speaker 1: but Steelers even over a longer period of time, right,
Speaker 1: I mean since the seventies, right, and they've and they've
Speaker 1: been consistent throughout that there's been some change in New
Speaker 1: England now as of the last twenty years, obviously, they've
Speaker 1: had a lot of success. Seattle is another one cons
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, so you know, but there aren't many.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas has not had a lot of success
Speaker 1: over the years since the Super Bowl runs of the nineties. Um,
Speaker 1: they've had the same ownership that's been considered, and they've
Speaker 1: had a lot of success off the field obviously, And
Speaker 1: that's that's the example of ownership being involved every day.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's right there in the mix and owner
Speaker 1: slash general manager, Jerry owner slash whatever he wants, that's
Speaker 1: the title. So there's different ways to go about it,
Speaker 1: but there are just really a handful that I think
Speaker 1: you could define as really stable organizations in the league.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot, but that's what you always strive for,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what you strive for. And uh
Speaker 1: and Baltimore being there, right, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is by far in there. I mean, that's I
Speaker 1: think that's the organization that has had more turnover but
Speaker 1: less change than most teams, and which is kind of
Speaker 1: odd to say that more turn turnover but less change.
Speaker 1: And that's just because they've been able to to develop
Speaker 1: not only players, but they've developed people in their organization
Speaker 1: from a from a staffing standpoint, on the coaching staff
Speaker 1: and on the person outside of things. And that's that's
Speaker 1: been impressive. And uh, I mean it's not very often
Speaker 1: that you see somebody from the Ravens organization that just leaves.
Speaker 1: I mean, they that's there, their Ravens. So I appreciate that,
Speaker 1: but it's a challenge. It's always a challenge and it's
Speaker 1: not easy to get it right. So, as I said before,
Speaker 1: forty nine fifty days, here we are. And is it
Speaker 1: is it an optimum set of circumstances where we're at
Speaker 1: right now? No? No, would you like to have had
Speaker 1: that position filled? Absolutely, because there's so much more to
Speaker 1: do after you name that person, and I don't look now,
Speaker 1: the combine is in a month, and then free agency
Speaker 1: starts in a month and a half. Well, and in
Speaker 1: putting a staff together, um, there's there's so much to do.
Speaker 1: And when you think about, Okay, the combine so close,
Speaker 1: the free agency is not that far. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I go back to that staff, the staffing part, you're
Speaker 1: missing out right now. You're missing out, and then you
Speaker 1: can't argue that when we return, it's college prospects scouting season.
Speaker 1: The All Star games are happening. We'll get Jeff Logman's
Speaker 1: annual Shrine Bowl story. You can bring that up every year.
Speaker 1: I think around this time, which is good. And and
Speaker 1: you know the way, when you say about all these
Speaker 1: all star games, you're also missing out with a staff's
Speaker 1: opportunity to evaluate, to add to your personnel department's opinion.
Speaker 1: Scouts are scouting, but the four eyes, the better coaches
Speaker 1: have an opinion. In scouting, two coaches have to give
Speaker 1: you directive. Hey, look, we're looking for this type of
Speaker 1: guy to fit this System's not you don't know what
Speaker 1: type of guy and what type of system you're on
Speaker 1: right now collecting information. It feels like, let's come back
Speaker 1: in a moment of Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: it's a live look at the demolition of the practice
Speaker 1: fields for the new football Performance Center that is slated
Speaker 1: to open for training camp. They started what day or
Speaker 1: two after the season ended here and put up the
Speaker 1: temporary fencing, brought in a couple of mobile trailers for
Speaker 1: the offices for the construction, and then started tearing things down.
Speaker 1: The bleachers are now gone. Field one, which was nearest
Speaker 1: to the bleachers, is now chopped up halfway. They're taking
Speaker 1: the drainage out of one portion. They're taking down the
Speaker 1: concrete wall on the south end. Well, there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on right now. At least there's some shovels in
Speaker 1: the ground and that's a good thing to see. Yeah, that, Uh,
Speaker 1: they didn't waste any time in poor Field one. Field
Speaker 1: one used to be uh, one of those rubber ground
Speaker 1: up rubber in late artificial turf field. It's hot as hell,
Speaker 1: and then it was gotten rid of because it was
Speaker 1: hot and it was not the greatest surface in the
Speaker 1: world and turned into a natural grass field. And now
Speaker 1: it's gonna be turned up and turned into something else.
Speaker 1: I think, first of all, it's gonna be an amazing complex,
Speaker 1: and from what I understand, it's gonna be very similar
Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins complex. Some similarities there from an
Speaker 1: architectural standpoint. I think that saved them a little bit
Speaker 1: of time too, because if that facility has already been
Speaker 1: designed a certain way, you can take some pieces of
Speaker 1: that since a little time and develop, which is smart.
Speaker 1: I mean in the in the essence of time. I
Speaker 1: just remember when you go back to when we didn't
Speaker 1: have a field at that time and where those uh
Speaker 1: I think where the fair fair grounds are at? Uh?
Speaker 1: Or was it right there? By trying to remember the
Speaker 1: exact location of the old baseball grounds, Oh, the Wolfson Park,
Speaker 1: Yeah about Yeah, it was kind of on the footprint
Speaker 1: of the on the footprint of the practice field. So
Speaker 1: we didn't have a field in the in the beginning
Speaker 1: of so when we used to go outside to do
Speaker 1: we would do some like like ply metrics and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, where you're doing high knees and butt kicks
Speaker 1: and shuffling and all that kind of that stuff. You
Speaker 1: still do it all the time. And we would go
Speaker 1: out to the baseball field Wilson Park, that's right, that's
Speaker 1: what it was called, the Wilson Park back then, and
Speaker 1: we would tear it up, you know, we're wearing you know.
Speaker 1: And I just felt bad because you know, when you
Speaker 1: do football drills from the same spot, you know, so
Speaker 1: we're just tearing up the south field. I just want
Speaker 1: to sit. I'm sitting there thinking to myself, if I'm
Speaker 1: a baseball player and I come out here for a
Speaker 1: game or a practice and and all these football guys
Speaker 1: have been out here, and I'm looking at my field,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not very happy right now. And because
Speaker 1: our field at the time, which I remember correctly, that
Speaker 1: used to be the old paint factory on the south
Speaker 1: end of the stadium. So they essentially brought in some
Speaker 1: dirt to cover up all the lead from the old
Speaker 1: paint factory, okay, and covered it up and then put
Speaker 1: some sad down. And so we were practicing on probably
Speaker 1: some bad things for many years. And then it got
Speaker 1: moved eventually the location that it's that now, but it's
Speaker 1: done a lot of transition with those practice fields over
Speaker 1: the year. There's a lot of good teams on those
Speaker 1: early practice fields, very good teams, very good players. Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. A matter of fact, Tony was Sulley, Jimmie Smith,
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor was on those fell of Famer. By the way,
Speaker 1: what do they announced the Hall of Fame. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: rooting for this coming through a week from today. A
Speaker 1: week from today, it's when the honors show is. I
Speaker 1: believe it's during that show they'll announce it. It's already
Speaker 1: been voted upon, but the results are not out there yet,
Speaker 1: so I think we'll find out that. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to know because I mean, I I knew it was
Speaker 1: coming up because it's always Super Bowl week, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know the exact date, because I mean, I I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get in this year. And and by
Speaker 1: the way, I just wanted to bring this up because um,
Speaker 1: uh the guy that did a radio show and I
Speaker 1: retweeted what he said, and I think it was um
Speaker 1: former offensive lineman that played in the league, Uh Ryan,
Speaker 1: But no, it was Uh. He does some radio stuff anyway,
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, Ross Tucker, Thank you Ross Tucker. Did a
Speaker 1: segment with somebody where he talked about watching film of
Speaker 1: the great left tackles during his era, and it was
Speaker 1: and I thought he was spot on, and that he
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, Ogden as being a really good
Speaker 1: football player, which Jonathan was. He's one of those guys
Speaker 1: that when I went against him, I really didn't have
Speaker 1: a plan because it just said I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was gonna work because he was such a freakish athlete
Speaker 1: athlete in so long. And then there was Walter Jones
Speaker 1: and Orlando Pace and Walter Jones and and he brought
Speaker 1: this up that Walter Jones and Basselli were the two best,
Speaker 1: but he said Basselli was the best, and and there is,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he has spot on. I never, I
Speaker 1: never ever watched one of my own offensive players was
Speaker 1: such great admiration as Tony Basselli. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: a guy that when we weren't on the field as
Speaker 1: a defense, I would get my cup of water and
Speaker 1: then walk back to a spot that I could watch
Speaker 1: him go against the greats, whether it mean Shawn Jones
Speaker 1: or Bruce Smith or whoever, and I'd watch him kick
Speaker 1: their rear end and it was one of the great
Speaker 1: I mean I had a front road ticket, man, Popcorn,
Speaker 1: I mean front road ticket to a great player. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a great player that was making great
Speaker 1: players look like they were nothing. And he was, without
Speaker 1: a doubt, the best left tackle in that era. And
Speaker 1: that's hands down, without a doubt. Let's hope the the
Speaker 1: coronation begins next week. Though. The only thing that he
Speaker 1: doesn't have in comparison some of these other guys is
Speaker 1: the longevity. That's the only thing. But but but his
Speaker 1: heights for three or four years was higher than those guys.
Speaker 1: But he just again that longevity thing. A lot of
Speaker 1: those guys did it for twelve, thirteen, fourteen years. However
Speaker 1: many years that they did it, they just did it longer.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm rooting for him, and uh and I
Speaker 1: will I will be jumping up and down if he
Speaker 1: gets elected next Thursday. Rick Stroud from the Tampa Bay Times,
Speaker 1: a long time NFL writer, tweeting out just a little
Speaker 1: over twenty minutes ago. Here's the quote hearing Bucks offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator Byron Left, which is expected to remove himself from
Speaker 1: consideration for the Jaguars head coaching job soon. Former Raiders
Speaker 1: interim head coach Rich Bisaci and former Eagles coach Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson remains strong candidates. End quote. That's Rick Stroud, Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: about twenty four minutes ago right now. Interesting. Well, it's
Speaker 1: very interesting that somebody would move remove themselves from consideration
Speaker 1: given that, I mean, being a head coach in the
Speaker 1: National Football League's tremendous opportunity. I think that's very curious.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know the reasoning behind that. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of speculation, a lot of speculation as to why
Speaker 1: he hasn't been hired yet, and uh, it has to
Speaker 1: do with the general manager situation, and that's the speculation.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's why he would pull him
Speaker 1: self out of consideration, but Rick Stroud is a reputable
Speaker 1: guy who has had very reputable information in the past,
Speaker 1: and I think that that would be unfortunate if that's
Speaker 1: the case. But I will tell you that I think
Speaker 1: Byron left which is a wonderful candidate. I think Rick
Speaker 1: Psaccia is a is an outstanding Canada A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I had a conversation with
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley about him and Gus couldn't, couldn't speak highly
Speaker 1: enough about him, great things to say about him. And
Speaker 1: then obviously, uh, Doug Peterson has won a super Bowl
Speaker 1: and he kind of fell out of favor in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: if people will remember back, because there was this falling
Speaker 1: out with the Carson Wentz situation, and Carson Wentz wasn't
Speaker 1: exactly handled with kid gloves at at the last part
Speaker 1: of with Philadelphia. If you look back at that and
Speaker 1: you evaluate where Carson Wentz is at now, who handled
Speaker 1: that properly? I think Doug Pearson handled it right and
Speaker 1: that he knew that Carson Wentz wasn't the franchise answer
Speaker 1: at quarterback, and so why continue to continue on with
Speaker 1: a charade that he's gonna be this great quarterback when
Speaker 1: he didn't have a belief in him because the general
Speaker 1: manager gave him this long extension. Long extension doesn't make
Speaker 1: you the answer and doesn't make you a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: Great play makes somebody a great quarterback. So I think
Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson would be a wonderful hire. He's
Speaker 1: been there, He's done that. He's been around the league
Speaker 1: forever too, A long time, long time player quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and the Packers and the Eagles, the Browns.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy, it's a backup most of his career.
Speaker 1: So he's been around the league for a long long time,
Speaker 1: and he's an offensive mind. And we have we have
Speaker 1: a great young quarterback here in Jacksonville that I believe
Speaker 1: very strongly in and I and he just he needs
Speaker 1: to be developed. He needs to continue to be surrounded
Speaker 1: with talent, and most importantly, he needs to be surrounded
Speaker 1: with stability. And if you think that just because you
Speaker 1: have this wonderful young quarterback that wins are magically going
Speaker 1: to appear, take a look at the Detroit Lions under
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and tell me how that worked out. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna happen. That magic pixie dust of just
Speaker 1: having the quarterback and getting it all right doesn't work.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta have that in place to have
Speaker 1: a chance, But it doesn't mean that you're gonna you
Speaker 1: have it solved. Can you imagine if if Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to play with a good football team
Speaker 1: for a long period of time, like one that he's
Speaker 1: been surrounded with in l A, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: he's on one now and the first year in here
Speaker 1: they go on to the Super Bowl. That's first year.
Speaker 1: So I mean that's some of those things that you
Speaker 1: that you watch and you observe the history you can
Speaker 1: you cannot ignore, and you cannot allow them to be
Speaker 1: ignored in the decision making process that you're making for
Speaker 1: your organization moving forward. We'll come back in a moment
Speaker 1: and go around the nast the Football League. Plenty of
Speaker 1: headlines storylines around the league. A little over a week
Speaker 1: away from the Super Bowl. As we just mentioned, apparently
Speaker 1: Bucks offensive coordinator Byron left Which expected to remove himself
Speaker 1: from consideration for the Jags head coaching job. That's according
Speaker 1: to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times. We're back
Speaker 1: with more in a moment. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon, JP Shatrick with Jeff Logaman. Glad
Speaker 1: you're with us. The off season rolls along. Reports this
Speaker 1: afternoon that Byron Leftwich is expected to pull his name
Speaker 1: out of the running for the Jaguars head coaching job,
Speaker 1: and that has the social media world a buzz. I'll
Speaker 1: say that, right, now. The social media world has been
Speaker 1: a buzz of flame for quite some times. It has, Yes,
Speaker 1: it has, it will continue, I believe. I mean, people
Speaker 1: have a right to express their opinion and uh and
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think
Speaker 1: you just got to be respectful about it. But express
Speaker 1: yourself as you desire. College All Star season, Senior Bowl week,
Speaker 1: we were supposed to go cover, but we were kind
Speaker 1: of hung. I had to hang back here just in
Speaker 1: case things happen with the coaching search. We weren't. You know,
Speaker 1: so you got tipped off that there was gonna be
Speaker 1: a coach named No, not at all. Are you lying?
Speaker 1: I'm not at all. Are you withholding information? Is this
Speaker 1: are you tweeting right now? Is this what you're doing?
Speaker 1: So it sounds like on Twitter right now? No, So
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to go this year. The Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl practices and all that shrine bulls tonight in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: They moved that location obviously in the old days used
Speaker 1: to be out West Alto, and then they moved it
Speaker 1: to St. Pete for the last number of years in
Speaker 1: Tropicana Field. You don't want to be in California nowadays
Speaker 1: and now it's now it's in Vegas at the state
Speaker 1: means great. I mean when Bucky Brooks is on the
Speaker 1: call tonight on NFL Network, O good him. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a a tough broadcast if you're trying to talk
Speaker 1: just like like the the game itself. But if you're
Speaker 1: if you're a personnel junkie like Bucky, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a you know, it's a great job. These days, at
Speaker 1: least the last number of years, it's kind of the
Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl has been the game for the fourth round
Speaker 1: through seventh round. Kind of prospect guys Bowl has been
Speaker 1: you know, usually it's the older guys. They have second round,
Speaker 1: of third or fourth round for the most part, what's
Speaker 1: what's the rount? What's the one? Then for the top picks,
Speaker 1: they don't go to any of them. Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: give an idea that years ago the Senior Bowl was viewed.
Speaker 1: There was three of them in my era. Okay, you
Speaker 1: had the Blue Gray Game on Christmas and Montgomery, Alabama exactly.
Speaker 1: That was considered like the lesser of all of the
Speaker 1: All Star games, mainly because it happened before or during
Speaker 1: Bowl season. It also was on Christmas Day, so there
Speaker 1: was a lot of things that weren't great about it.
Speaker 1: At the Crampton Bowl it's the name of the stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you had the East West Game which was
Speaker 1: in Palo Alto, which I went to that one, and
Speaker 1: that was actually considered a highly desirable all Star game
Speaker 1: to go to. And then the Senior Bowl in my
Speaker 1: era was viewed as something that you did not want
Speaker 1: to go to because they had practices that were in
Speaker 1: in full pads, they had a lot of contact, and
Speaker 1: players that were looking at potentially playing in these all
Speaker 1: star games thought that that that was a very high
Speaker 1: risk proposition and a risk of serious injury, which many
Speaker 1: guys didn't want to even have an opportunity to partake
Speaker 1: in a But the the East West Shrine Game in
Speaker 1: Polota was awesome. I had Mike Godfried was our head
Speaker 1: coach of the East squad. Jimmy Johnson, the head coach
Speaker 1: of the Miami Hurricanes at time, was the assistant coach
Speaker 1: and soon to be named the Dallas Cowboys head coach
Speaker 1: right after that. That was we had a great staff,
Speaker 1: had a great time, had a lot of great teammates
Speaker 1: out there, and uh, and that was cool. I and
Speaker 1: in that game, I'll never forget that that we won.
Speaker 1: We dominated them and uh, I got to play middle linebacker,
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, defensive end, and defensive tackle and nose tackle.
Speaker 1: I got to play five positions. Jimmy Johnson let me
Speaker 1: play all five positions in that game. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It was fun, a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I love this story every year I told. The story
Speaker 1: comes around. The stories that shall remain untold. Was that
Speaker 1: they actually gave us these uh they had a fleet
Speaker 1: of cars, okay, and so you know, so that you
Speaker 1: could get around town or get to the practice if
Speaker 1: you weren't going to ride the bus, or if you
Speaker 1: wanted to go get something to eat. And so we
Speaker 1: somehow we me and about four other guys got ahold
Speaker 1: of a van and so the van. The van used
Speaker 1: to um leave a little bit in the evening and
Speaker 1: return very late, and we would take naps in the
Speaker 1: middle of the day. So we had one guy that
Speaker 1: after we went out to dinner okay one night and
Speaker 1: had some fun, we couldn't wake him up in the
Speaker 1: van to get him inside to the hotel that we
Speaker 1: were staying at. So we tied his shoelaces together and
Speaker 1: just left him in the van. So then the next
Speaker 1: morning we're going out that I'm not going to name
Speaker 1: names here, why not. So then next morning we're going
Speaker 1: out to the buses to head to practice, and we
Speaker 1: got to the van. We look inside the van. He's
Speaker 1: still in there, just sleeping away. We're like, dude, come on, man,
Speaker 1: we got practice, and he's like, literally we opened up
Speaker 1: the door and he falling out of the van because
Speaker 1: his shoes still tied together. Yeah, that was That was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, had a good time. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you did what a week it was back in
Speaker 1: with nineteen eighty nine, right, that would have been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, January of nineteen eighty nine. I won't
Speaker 1: tell you how old I was in January of nineteen
Speaker 1: eight How old were you? I was young? Young? I
Speaker 1: was young. Joe were you thirty? Let's go around, j
Speaker 1: I have been eight, you're eight. Yeah, you're eight. Joe's
Speaker 1: thirty one. I was twenty one. Ye drafted Reber was
Speaker 1: negative five man Reber pushing the buttons behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: He was he wasn't even a thought in his parents mind.
Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and the dominant
Speaker 1: story of the week. Brian Flores has filed or proposed
Speaker 1: class action lawsuit against the NFL and three teams, in
Speaker 1: particular on top of the Dolphins, Broncos, and Giants, alleging
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins owner offered money for him to lose
Speaker 1: games in twenty eight team to enhance draft position, and
Speaker 1: pressured him to recruit a prominent quarterback in violation of
Speaker 1: league tampering rules. He also alleges the Giants used his
Speaker 1: interview only to fill the Rooney Rule requirements and had
Speaker 1: apparent text messages from Bill Belichick mistakenly texting him congratulations
Speaker 1: instead of Brian Dable hours before Brian Flores was scheduled
Speaker 1: to interview, and alleges that Broncos leadership didn't take his
Speaker 1: interview seriously a couple of years back. He's seeking unspecified
Speaker 1: economic and punitive damages and it has set the NFL
Speaker 1: world ablaze. He made a lot of serious accusations, and uh,
Speaker 1: I know that there were some statements there were issued
Speaker 1: to refute some of the allegations that he made. And
Speaker 1: the one thing that I really don't understand, just going
Speaker 1: back before the lawsuit happened, was how does Brian Flores
Speaker 1: get fired? I mean seriously, he he has been I
Speaker 1: think has done a really good job as a head
Speaker 1: coach and managing a situation in Miami and has continued
Speaker 1: to get and get teams to play better down the line.
Speaker 1: The situation appears that I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: ownership or this there was a battle between him and
Speaker 1: the general manager that happened and he lost, which that's
Speaker 1: happened before in the National Football League. But the allegations
Speaker 1: are very serious and I think there definitely has to
Speaker 1: be something done to change the way that the hiring
Speaker 1: process is currently working because out of all of the
Speaker 1: openings that have been filled so far, there hasn't been
Speaker 1: a minority candidate. And there's some qualified a hiring hiring,
Speaker 1: there has not been a candidate hired. I think that's
Speaker 1: a problem. I think that's a major problem. I also
Speaker 1: think that that for I know that the intent of
Speaker 1: the Rooney rule is what it is, but there's got
Speaker 1: to be a better way to accomplish the diversity that
Speaker 1: the league is trying to reach. And I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to that, but it uh. I think it
Speaker 1: will open up a lot of eyes and uh and
Speaker 1: I think Brian Floores has taken a very bold step
Speaker 1: because it could essentially end his career and much like
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick in the National Football League. And I just wondered, also,
Speaker 1: what will it do to his relationship with Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: which I and I know a lot of people say
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because it's more important to address some
Speaker 1: of the bigger issues, and I get that, but you
Speaker 1: want to have as many allies in this in this
Speaker 1: struggle to gain attention to the issues that you're trying
Speaker 1: to point out. And uh, so crazy situation. And I
Speaker 1: think it's certainly is an issue that creates a black
Speaker 1: eye on the league because if you look at what's
Speaker 1: happened so far, it's hard to argue that things shouldn't
Speaker 1: be done differently. Only one African American head coach in
Speaker 1: the NFL at the moment, and he's one of the
Speaker 1: most successful, Tomlin, And I thought Brian Floyd has had
Speaker 1: a lot of the same qualities of Mike Tomlin. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised at Brian Floyes hasn't got an interview here and um,
Speaker 1: and that's just my personal opinion. I think very highly
Speaker 1: of of Brian Floyes as far as the job that
Speaker 1: he had been able to do in the first couple
Speaker 1: of years, and if the allegations about him getting paid
Speaker 1: to lose are true. Oh boy. Yeah. Other news this week,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady retired after twenty two seasons. They made it
Speaker 1: officially of show this week. He's just put him in
Speaker 1: the whole now. Yeah, it's not even it's not even
Speaker 1: close that he he is the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: He has been a total class act. And he did more.
Speaker 1: I think he did more this year for the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and last year that any other player is
Speaker 1: cape any other player in the history of the National
Speaker 1: Football League. He had did more for that organization last
Speaker 1: year than any player has ever done for an organization
Speaker 1: as far as from a leadership standpoint, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: across the board, a leadership standpoint in the locker room
Speaker 1: with players, and from a leadership standpoint with a coaching staff,
Speaker 1: ownership organization, everything, and that that last run with guys
Speaker 1: who have been wanting for a long time and then
Speaker 1: goes somewhere at the tail end. A lot of times
Speaker 1: doesn't go that well. This is certainly the exception to that.
Speaker 1: Washington football team has a new name, the Commanders. What
Speaker 1: do you think the whole process was kind of you know,
Speaker 1: they got a helicopter that could let the cat out
Speaker 1: of the back. Joe Thiesman, in typical form, couldn't keep
Speaker 1: his mouth shut and uh not tell what the name
Speaker 1: was gonna be. So yeah, that's typical Washington football team,
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. I mean, that's just a typical happening for
Speaker 1: that organization. That organization has been, uh somewhat dysfunctional over
Speaker 1: the years. There are some former employees that we're meeting
Speaker 1: with members of Congress today as well. So people want
Speaker 1: to turn what's going on with the Jaguars are dysfunctional?
Speaker 1: Will slow down, take a look at the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1: That's Joe Fortunato on audio, Brent Rebrun video. Jeff will
Speaker 1: talk to you soon. You've got Jeff Laghman. I'm JP Shadrick.
Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.