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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February third. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who will fight to her name

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Speaker 1: to retain the name, Commander J. P. Chad Rick. Welcome on.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon and a

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Speaker 1: busy show ahead. Oh there's really no new news yet,

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Speaker 1: but here's what's coming up. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lagerman's coming up.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in a few weeks. Jaguars continue

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Speaker 1: the coaching search. There are rumors and reports will get

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Speaker 1: to some of those will take a look at the

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Speaker 1: NFL head coach Tracker, teams that have hired and the

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Speaker 1: teams that have yet to hire head coaches. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: interview tracker as well, names that they have interviewed and

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Speaker 1: maybe are currently who knows, well, look at that coming up? Well,

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Speaker 1: of course, go around the National Football League. A busy

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Speaker 1: offseason already around the league. Newsworthy and it's not even

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl yet. Jeff Loggingman with us now Jaguars analysts.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, what's up? Logs, Good afternoon. Haven't seen you

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Speaker 1: in about what three or four weeks something like that.

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Speaker 1: Hasn't been that lot it's been a hot minute. Was

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Speaker 1: it the season? Yeah, I guess it was. It was

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Speaker 1: last week, so that would be I was on vacation

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Speaker 1: last week, JP. Yeah, well good and rightly so yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it was good. Uh had a little trip to the

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Speaker 1: mountains of Tennessee and I got to see what the

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Speaker 1: Smoky Mountain draw about. So it was a great vacation,

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Speaker 1: great getaway. Thought for sure that the Jaguars would have

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Speaker 1: a head coach hired by then, but not. Well, the

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Speaker 1: reports where they were close, and then they weren't, and

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Speaker 1: maybe they're close again, but who knows. We have not

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Speaker 1: seen the white smoke out of the chimney yet. I

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Speaker 1: really believed that this this job last year was the

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Speaker 1: most attractive in the National Football League. You had a

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Speaker 1: first overall draft pick with the possibility of drafting Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: You had a team that was flush with cap room,

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Speaker 1: that had plenty, I mean, a full array of draft picks.

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Speaker 1: And then Urban Meyer is hired, and I really believe

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Speaker 1: that this could have been the number one most attractive

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Speaker 1: hasn't been that. And you can point to a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things, but the fact of the matter is

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Speaker 1: is that five openings have been filled before this one

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Speaker 1: has been filled. And if this was the number one

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Speaker 1: attractive job, then people would have been holding out hope

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Speaker 1: to get this job at some point. And so here

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Speaker 1: it is. You know that there's there's four openings left.

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Speaker 1: This team is is one of them, and uh, we're

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Speaker 1: still kind of waiting to see what's gonna happen. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very curious situation to go from

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Speaker 1: could have been this year, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: here we are in this hiring cycle. And you know

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Speaker 1: that that that brings more questions into the equation. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we're right at fifty days since Ervin Maya

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Speaker 1: should have been able to give you an edge in

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Speaker 1: the evaluation of your of your coaching search. And and look,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about getting it right. So if if making

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Speaker 1: it take longer means getting it right, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of times if you're not

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Speaker 1: making the right decision in an expedient manner. I think

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Speaker 1: it hampers a lot of other things that you would

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Speaker 1: try to do as an organization with the subsequent hirings

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Speaker 1: after your head coach is hired. Let's take a look

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Speaker 1: at the NFL head coach tracker. As you said, logs,

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Speaker 1: then after the Super Bowl has done, Kevin O'Connell has

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Speaker 1: an agreement apparently with the Vikings will make that official

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Speaker 1: And could that be a hindrance to some people maybe,

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Jaguars interview tracker via

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com and they have listed all of the

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Speaker 1: reported names that have interviewed with the Jags. There's a

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Speaker 1: long list for the Jaguars. By the way, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: feel like there was a report this past week that

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Speaker 1: now O'Connell's been hired. That was like they had to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's any more dark horse

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Speaker 1: a dark horse candidate? I say absolutely. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I say that is that a lot of the teams

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Speaker 1: And so when you say there are no dark horse

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Speaker 1: Sure could be. Is it likely? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's rights say no chance, but there's always Hey,

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Speaker 1: So that's where we stand. I mean, there's and to

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Speaker 1: your point, it was February three, right, there's only four

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Speaker 1: teams remaining. Two hire coaches. These other staffs are already

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's what you do. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I really got to concentrate on the super Bowl. You know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm putting the staff together. I'm getting on the phone

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Speaker 1: I'm texting guys between you know, game plan meetings for

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Speaker 1: I gotta get my stuff together. Man. Okay, you can

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Speaker 1: apparently not going to be a connection with the past regime.

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Speaker 1: makes it a little bit frustrating, is that, Okay, did

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Speaker 1: the head coaching availability? I mean you could say maybe not.

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Speaker 1: gives the appearance certainly that that's not the case. And

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Speaker 1: putting a staff together, um, there's there's so much to do.

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Speaker 1: And when you think about, Okay, the combine so close,

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Speaker 1: the free agency is not that far. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I go back to that staff, the staffing part, you're

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Speaker 1: missing out right now. You're missing out, and then you

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Speaker 1: can't argue that when we return, it's college prospects scouting season.

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Speaker 1: The All Star games are happening. We'll get Jeff Logman's

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Speaker 1: annual Shrine Bowl story. You can bring that up every year.

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Speaker 1: I think around this time, which is good. And and

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Speaker 1: you know the way, when you say about all these

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Speaker 1: all star games, you're also missing out with a staff's

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Speaker 1: opportunity to evaluate, to add to your personnel department's opinion.

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Speaker 1: Scouts are scouting, but the four eyes, the better coaches

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Speaker 1: have an opinion. In scouting, two coaches have to give

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Speaker 1: you directive. Hey, look, we're looking for this type of

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Speaker 1: guy to fit this System's not you don't know what

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Speaker 1: type of guy and what type of system you're on

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Speaker 1: right now collecting information. It feels like, let's come back

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Speaker 1: in a moment of Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Digital Network. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour and if you're

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Speaker 1: watching us on Jaguars dot Com or Jags Social media,

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Speaker 1: it's a live look at the demolition of the practice

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Speaker 1: fields for the new football Performance Center that is slated

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Speaker 1: to open for training camp. They started what day or

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Speaker 1: two after the season ended here and put up the

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Speaker 1: temporary fencing, brought in a couple of mobile trailers for

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Speaker 1: the offices for the construction, and then started tearing things down.

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Speaker 1: The bleachers are now gone. Field one, which was nearest

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Speaker 1: to the bleachers, is now chopped up halfway. They're taking

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Speaker 1: the drainage out of one portion. They're taking down the

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Speaker 1: concrete wall on the south end. Well, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: going on right now. At least there's some shovels in

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Speaker 1: the ground and that's a good thing to see. Yeah, that, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they didn't waste any time in poor Field one. Field

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Speaker 1: one used to be uh, one of those rubber ground

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Speaker 1: up rubber in late artificial turf field. It's hot as hell,

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Speaker 1: and then it was gotten rid of because it was

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Speaker 1: hot and it was not the greatest surface in the

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Speaker 1: world and turned into a natural grass field. And now

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be turned up and turned into something else.

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Speaker 1: I think, first of all, it's gonna be an amazing complex,

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Speaker 1: and from what I understand, it's gonna be very similar

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Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins complex. Some similarities there from an

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Speaker 1: architectural standpoint. I think that saved them a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time too, because if that facility has already been

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Speaker 1: designed a certain way, you can take some pieces of

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Speaker 1: that since a little time and develop, which is smart.

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Speaker 1: I mean in the in the essence of time. I

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Speaker 1: just remember when you go back to when we didn't

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Speaker 1: have a field at that time and where those uh

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Speaker 1: I think where the fair fair grounds are at? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Or was it right there? By trying to remember the

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Speaker 1: exact location of the old baseball grounds, Oh, the Wolfson Park,

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Speaker 1: Yeah about Yeah, it was kind of on the footprint

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Speaker 1: of the on the footprint of the practice field. So

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Speaker 1: we didn't have a field in the in the beginning

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Speaker 1: of so when we used to go outside to do

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Speaker 1: we would do some like like ply metrics and stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, where you're doing high knees and butt kicks

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Speaker 1: and shuffling and all that kind of that stuff. You

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Speaker 1: still do it all the time. And we would go

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Speaker 1: out to the baseball field Wilson Park, that's right, that's

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Speaker 1: what it was called, the Wilson Park back then, and

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Speaker 1: we would tear it up, you know, we're wearing you know.

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Speaker 1: And I just felt bad because you know, when you

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Speaker 1: do football drills from the same spot, you know, so

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Speaker 1: we're just tearing up the south field. I just want

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Speaker 1: to sit. I'm sitting there thinking to myself, if I'm

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Speaker 1: a baseball player and I come out here for a

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Speaker 1: game or a practice and and all these football guys

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Speaker 1: have been out here, and I'm looking at my field,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not very happy right now. And because

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Speaker 1: our field at the time, which I remember correctly, that

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Speaker 1: used to be the old paint factory on the south

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Speaker 1: end of the stadium. So they essentially brought in some

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Speaker 1: dirt to cover up all the lead from the old

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Speaker 1: paint factory, okay, and covered it up and then put

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Speaker 1: some sad down. And so we were practicing on probably

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Speaker 1: some bad things for many years. And then it got

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Speaker 1: moved eventually the location that it's that now, but it's

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Speaker 1: done a lot of transition with those practice fields over

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Speaker 1: the year. There's a lot of good teams on those

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Speaker 1: early practice fields, very good teams, very good players. Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer. A matter of fact, Tony was Sulley, Jimmie Smith,

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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor was on those fell of Famer. By the way,

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Speaker 1: what do they announced the Hall of Fame. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for this coming through a week from today. A

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Speaker 1: week from today, it's when the honors show is. I

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Speaker 1: believe it's during that show they'll announce it. It's already

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Speaker 1: been voted upon, but the results are not out there yet,

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Speaker 1: so I think we'll find out that. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to know because I mean, I I knew it was

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Speaker 1: coming up because it's always Super Bowl week, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't know the exact date, because I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna get in this year. And and by

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Speaker 1: the way, I just wanted to bring this up because um,

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Speaker 1: uh the guy that did a radio show and I

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Speaker 1: retweeted what he said, and I think it was um

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Speaker 1: former offensive lineman that played in the league, Uh Ryan,

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Speaker 1: But no, it was Uh. He does some radio stuff anyway,

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, Ross Tucker, Thank you Ross Tucker. Did a

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Speaker 1: segment with somebody where he talked about watching film of

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Speaker 1: the great left tackles during his era, and it was

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Speaker 1: and I thought he was spot on, and that he

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Speaker 1: talked about, you know, Ogden as being a really good

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Speaker 1: football player, which Jonathan was. He's one of those guys

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Speaker 1: that when I went against him, I really didn't have

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Speaker 1: a plan because it just said I didn't know what

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Speaker 1: was gonna work because he was such a freakish athlete

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Speaker 1: athlete in so long. And then there was Walter Jones

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Speaker 1: and Orlando Pace and Walter Jones and and he brought

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Speaker 1: this up that Walter Jones and Basselli were the two best,

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Speaker 1: but he said Basselli was the best, and and there is,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, he has spot on. I never, I

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Speaker 1: never ever watched one of my own offensive players was

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Speaker 1: such great admiration as Tony Basselli. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: a guy that when we weren't on the field as

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Speaker 1: a defense, I would get my cup of water and

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Speaker 1: then walk back to a spot that I could watch

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Speaker 1: him go against the greats, whether it mean Shawn Jones

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Speaker 1: or Bruce Smith or whoever, and I'd watch him kick

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Speaker 1: their rear end and it was one of the great

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Speaker 1: I mean I had a front road ticket, man, Popcorn,

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Speaker 1: I mean front road ticket to a great player. And

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a great player that was making great

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Speaker 1: players look like they were nothing. And he was, without

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Speaker 1: a doubt, the best left tackle in that era. And

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Speaker 1: that's hands down, without a doubt. Let's hope the the

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Speaker 1: coronation begins next week. Though. The only thing that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have in comparison some of these other guys is

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Speaker 1: the longevity. That's the only thing. But but but his

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Speaker 1: heights for three or four years was higher than those guys.

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Speaker 1: But he just again that longevity thing. A lot of

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Speaker 1: those guys did it for twelve, thirteen, fourteen years. However

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Speaker 1: many years that they did it, they just did it longer.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm rooting for him, and uh and I

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Speaker 1: will I will be jumping up and down if he

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Speaker 1: gets elected next Thursday. Rick Stroud from the Tampa Bay Times,

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Speaker 1: a long time NFL writer, tweeting out just a little

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Speaker 1: over twenty minutes ago. Here's the quote hearing Bucks offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Byron Left, which is expected to remove himself from

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Speaker 1: consideration for the Jaguars head coaching job soon. Former Raiders

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Speaker 1: interim head coach Rich Bisaci and former Eagles coach Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson remains strong candidates. End quote. That's Rick Stroud, Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 1: about twenty four minutes ago right now. Interesting. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: very interesting that somebody would move remove themselves from consideration

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Speaker 1: given that, I mean, being a head coach in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League's tremendous opportunity. I think that's very curious.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know the reasoning behind that. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of speculation, a lot of speculation as to why

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been hired yet, and uh, it has to

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Speaker 1: do with the general manager situation, and that's the speculation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's why he would pull him

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Speaker 1: self out of consideration, but Rick Stroud is a reputable

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Speaker 1: guy who has had very reputable information in the past,

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Speaker 1: and I think that that would be unfortunate if that's

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Speaker 1: the case. But I will tell you that I think

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Speaker 1: Byron left which is a wonderful candidate. I think Rick

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Speaker 1: Psaccia is a is an outstanding Canada A matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I had a conversation with

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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley about him and Gus couldn't, couldn't speak highly

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Speaker 1: enough about him, great things to say about him. And

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Speaker 1: then obviously, uh, Doug Peterson has won a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and he kind of fell out of favor in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: if people will remember back, because there was this falling

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Speaker 1: out with the Carson Wentz situation, and Carson Wentz wasn't

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Speaker 1: exactly handled with kid gloves at at the last part

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Speaker 1: of with Philadelphia. If you look back at that and

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Speaker 1: you evaluate where Carson Wentz is at now, who handled

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Speaker 1: that properly? I think Doug Pearson handled it right and

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Speaker 1: that he knew that Carson Wentz wasn't the franchise answer

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, and so why continue to continue on with

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Speaker 1: a charade that he's gonna be this great quarterback when

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a belief in him because the general

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Speaker 1: manager gave him this long extension. Long extension doesn't make

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Speaker 1: you the answer and doesn't make you a great quarterback.

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00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: Great play makes somebody a great quarterback. So I think

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Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson would be a wonderful hire. He's

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Speaker 1: been there, He's done that. He's been around the league

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Speaker 1: forever too, A long time, long time player quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and the Packers and the Eagles, the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy, it's a backup most of his career.

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Speaker 1: So he's been around the league for a long long time,

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Speaker 1: and he's an offensive mind. And we have we have

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Speaker 1: a great young quarterback here in Jacksonville that I believe

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Speaker 1: very strongly in and I and he just he needs

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Speaker 1: to be developed. He needs to continue to be surrounded

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Speaker 1: with talent, and most importantly, he needs to be surrounded

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Speaker 1: with stability. And if you think that just because you

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Speaker 1: have this wonderful young quarterback that wins are magically going

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: to appear, take a look at the Detroit Lions under

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and tell me how that worked out. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna happen. That magic pixie dust of just

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Speaker 1: having the quarterback and getting it all right doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: You got you gotta have that in place to have

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Speaker 1: a chance, But it doesn't mean that you're gonna you

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Speaker 1: have it solved. Can you imagine if if Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to play with a good football team

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Speaker 1: for a long period of time, like one that he's

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Speaker 1: been surrounded with in l A, I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: he's on one now and the first year in here

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Speaker 1: they go on to the Super Bowl. That's first year.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's some of those things that you

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Speaker 1: that you watch and you observe the history you can

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Speaker 1: you cannot ignore, and you cannot allow them to be

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Speaker 1: ignored in the decision making process that you're making for

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Speaker 1: your organization moving forward. We'll come back in a moment

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00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: and go around the nast the Football League. Plenty of

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00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: headlines storylines around the league. A little over a week

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00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: away from the Super Bowl. As we just mentioned, apparently

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Speaker 1: Bucks offensive coordinator Byron left Which expected to remove himself

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Speaker 1: from consideration for the Jags head coaching job. That's according

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Speaker 1: to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times. We're back

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Speaker 1: with more in a moment. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon, JP Shatrick with Jeff Logaman. Glad

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Speaker 1: you're with us. The off season rolls along. Reports this

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Speaker 1: afternoon that Byron Leftwich is expected to pull his name

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Speaker 1: out of the running for the Jaguars head coaching job,

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Speaker 1: and that has the social media world a buzz. I'll

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Speaker 1: say that, right, now. The social media world has been

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Speaker 1: a buzz of flame for quite some times. It has, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it has, it will continue, I believe. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: have a right to express their opinion and uh and

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think

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Speaker 1: you just got to be respectful about it. But express

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Speaker 1: yourself as you desire. College All Star season, Senior Bowl week,

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Speaker 1: we were supposed to go cover, but we were kind

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Speaker 1: of hung. I had to hang back here just in

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Speaker 1: case things happen with the coaching search. We weren't. You know,

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Speaker 1: so you got tipped off that there was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a coach named No, not at all. Are you lying?

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Speaker 1: I'm not at all. Are you withholding information? Is this

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Speaker 1: are you tweeting right now? Is this what you're doing?

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like on Twitter right now? No, So

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Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to go this year. The Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl practices and all that shrine bulls tonight in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: They moved that location obviously in the old days used

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Speaker 1: to be out West Alto, and then they moved it

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Speaker 1: to St. Pete for the last number of years in

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Speaker 1: Tropicana Field. You don't want to be in California nowadays

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Speaker 1: and now it's now it's in Vegas at the state

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Speaker 1: means great. I mean when Bucky Brooks is on the

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Speaker 1: call tonight on NFL Network, O good him. That's a

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Speaker 1: that's a a tough broadcast if you're trying to talk

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Speaker 1: just like like the the game itself. But if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're a personnel junkie like Bucky, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a you know, it's a great job. These days, at

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Speaker 1: least the last number of years, it's kind of the

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Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl has been the game for the fourth round

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Speaker 1: through seventh round. Kind of prospect guys Bowl has been

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Speaker 1: you know, usually it's the older guys. They have second round,

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Speaker 1: of third or fourth round for the most part, what's

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Speaker 1: what's the rount? What's the one? Then for the top picks,

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Speaker 1: they don't go to any of them. Okay, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: give an idea that years ago the Senior Bowl was viewed.

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Speaker 1: There was three of them in my era. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: had the Blue Gray Game on Christmas and Montgomery, Alabama exactly.

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Speaker 1: That was considered like the lesser of all of the

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Speaker 1: All Star games, mainly because it happened before or during

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Speaker 1: Bowl season. It also was on Christmas Day, so there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of things that weren't great about it.

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Speaker 1: At the Crampton Bowl it's the name of the stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you had the East West Game which was

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Speaker 1: in Palo Alto, which I went to that one, and

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Speaker 1: that was actually considered a highly desirable all Star game

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Speaker 1: to go to. And then the Senior Bowl in my

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Speaker 1: era was viewed as something that you did not want

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Speaker 1: to go to because they had practices that were in

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Speaker 1: in full pads, they had a lot of contact, and

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Speaker 1: players that were looking at potentially playing in these all

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Speaker 1: star games thought that that that was a very high

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Speaker 1: risk proposition and a risk of serious injury, which many

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Speaker 1: guys didn't want to even have an opportunity to partake

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Speaker 1: in a But the the East West Shrine Game in

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Speaker 1: Polota was awesome. I had Mike Godfried was our head

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Speaker 1: coach of the East squad. Jimmy Johnson, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Miami Hurricanes at time, was the assistant coach

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Speaker 1: and soon to be named the Dallas Cowboys head coach

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Speaker 1: right after that. That was we had a great staff,

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Speaker 1: had a great time, had a lot of great teammates

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Speaker 1: out there, and uh, and that was cool. I and

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Speaker 1: in that game, I'll never forget that that we won.

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Speaker 1: We dominated them and uh, I got to play middle linebacker,

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker, defensive end, and defensive tackle and nose tackle.

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Speaker 1: I got to play five positions. Jimmy Johnson let me

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Speaker 1: play all five positions in that game. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It was fun, a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I love this story every year I told. The story

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Speaker 1: comes around. The stories that shall remain untold. Was that

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Speaker 1: they actually gave us these uh they had a fleet

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Speaker 1: of cars, okay, and so you know, so that you

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Speaker 1: could get around town or get to the practice if

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Speaker 1: you weren't going to ride the bus, or if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to go get something to eat. And so we

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Speaker 1: somehow we me and about four other guys got ahold

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Speaker 1: of a van and so the van. The van used

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Speaker 1: to um leave a little bit in the evening and

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Speaker 1: return very late, and we would take naps in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the day. So we had one guy that

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Speaker 1: after we went out to dinner okay one night and

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Speaker 1: had some fun, we couldn't wake him up in the

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Speaker 1: van to get him inside to the hotel that we

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Speaker 1: were staying at. So we tied his shoelaces together and

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Speaker 1: just left him in the van. So then the next

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Speaker 1: morning we're going out that I'm not going to name

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Speaker 1: names here, why not. So then next morning we're going

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Speaker 1: out to the buses to head to practice, and we

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Speaker 1: got to the van. We look inside the van. He's

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Speaker 1: still in there, just sleeping away. We're like, dude, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: we got practice, and he's like, literally we opened up

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Speaker 1: the door and he falling out of the van because

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Speaker 1: his shoes still tied together. Yeah, that was That was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun, had a good time. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like you did what a week it was back in

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Speaker 1: with nineteen eighty nine, right, that would have been. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, January of nineteen eighty nine. I won't

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Speaker 1: tell you how old I was in January of nineteen

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Speaker 1: eight How old were you? I was young? Young? I

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Speaker 1: was young. Joe were you thirty? Let's go around, j

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Speaker 1: I have been eight, you're eight. Yeah, you're eight. Joe's

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Speaker 1: thirty one. I was twenty one. Ye drafted Reber was

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Speaker 1: negative five man Reber pushing the buttons behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: He was he wasn't even a thought in his parents mind.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and the dominant

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Speaker 1: story of the week. Brian Flores has filed or proposed

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Speaker 1: class action lawsuit against the NFL and three teams, in

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Speaker 1: particular on top of the Dolphins, Broncos, and Giants, alleging

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Speaker 1: that the Dolphins owner offered money for him to lose

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Speaker 1: games in twenty eight team to enhance draft position, and

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Speaker 1: pressured him to recruit a prominent quarterback in violation of

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Speaker 1: league tampering rules. He also alleges the Giants used his

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Speaker 1: interview only to fill the Rooney Rule requirements and had

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Speaker 1: apparent text messages from Bill Belichick mistakenly texting him congratulations

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Speaker 1: instead of Brian Dable hours before Brian Flores was scheduled

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Speaker 1: to interview, and alleges that Broncos leadership didn't take his

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Speaker 1: interview seriously a couple of years back. He's seeking unspecified

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Speaker 1: economic and punitive damages and it has set the NFL

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Speaker 1: world ablaze. He made a lot of serious accusations, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I know that there were some statements there were issued

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Speaker 1: to refute some of the allegations that he made. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I really don't understand, just going

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Speaker 1: back before the lawsuit happened, was how does Brian Flores

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Speaker 1: get fired? I mean seriously, he he has been I

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Speaker 1: think has done a really good job as a head

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Speaker 1: coach and managing a situation in Miami and has continued

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Speaker 1: to get and get teams to play better down the line.

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Speaker 1: The situation appears that I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: ownership or this there was a battle between him and

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Speaker 1: the general manager that happened and he lost, which that's

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Speaker 1: happened before in the National Football League. But the allegations

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Speaker 1: are very serious and I think there definitely has to

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Speaker 1: be something done to change the way that the hiring

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Speaker 1: process is currently working because out of all of the

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Speaker 1: openings that have been filled so far, there hasn't been

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Speaker 1: a minority candidate. And there's some qualified a hiring hiring,

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Speaker 1: there has not been a candidate hired. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a problem. I think that's a major problem. I also

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Speaker 1: think that that for I know that the intent of

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Speaker 1: the Rooney rule is what it is, but there's got

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Speaker 1: to be a better way to accomplish the diversity that

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Speaker 1: the league is trying to reach. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: the answer to that, but it uh. I think it

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Speaker 1: will open up a lot of eyes and uh and

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Speaker 1: I think Brian Floores has taken a very bold step

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Speaker 1: because it could essentially end his career and much like

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick in the National Football League. And I just wondered, also,

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Speaker 1: what will it do to his relationship with Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: which I and I know a lot of people say

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because it's more important to address some

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Speaker 1: of the bigger issues, and I get that, but you

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Speaker 1: want to have as many allies in this in this

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Speaker 1: struggle to gain attention to the issues that you're trying

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Speaker 1: to point out. And uh, so crazy situation. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's certainly is an issue that creates a black

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Speaker 1: eye on the league because if you look at what's

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Speaker 1: happened so far, it's hard to argue that things shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be done differently. Only one African American head coach in

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Speaker 1: the NFL at the moment, and he's one of the

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Speaker 1: most successful, Tomlin, And I thought Brian Floyd has had

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Speaker 1: a lot of the same qualities of Mike Tomlin. I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised at Brian Floyes hasn't got an interview here and um,

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Speaker 1: and that's just my personal opinion. I think very highly

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Speaker 1: of of Brian Floyes as far as the job that

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Speaker 1: he had been able to do in the first couple

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Speaker 1: of years, and if the allegations about him getting paid

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Speaker 1: to lose are true. Oh boy. Yeah. Other news this week,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady retired after twenty two seasons. They made it

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Speaker 1: officially of show this week. He's just put him in

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Speaker 1: the whole now. Yeah, it's not even it's not even

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Speaker 1: close that he he is the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 1: He has been a total class act. And he did more.

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Speaker 1: I think he did more this year for the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and last year that any other player is

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Speaker 1: cape any other player in the history of the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. He had did more for that organization last

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Speaker 1: year than any player has ever done for an organization

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Speaker 1: as far as from a leadership standpoint, and I'm talking

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Speaker 1: across the board, a leadership standpoint in the locker room

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Speaker 1: with players, and from a leadership standpoint with a coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: ownership organization, everything, and that that last run with guys

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Speaker 1: who have been wanting for a long time and then

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Speaker 1: goes somewhere at the tail end. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: doesn't go that well. This is certainly the exception to that.

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Speaker 1: Washington football team has a new name, the Commanders. What

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Speaker 1: do you think the whole process was kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: they got a helicopter that could let the cat out

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Speaker 1: of the back. Joe Thiesman, in typical form, couldn't keep

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Speaker 1: his mouth shut and uh not tell what the name

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Speaker 1: was gonna be. So yeah, that's typical Washington football team,

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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. I mean, that's just a typical happening for

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Speaker 1: that organization. That organization has been, uh somewhat dysfunctional over

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Speaker 1: the years. There are some former employees that we're meeting

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Speaker 1: with members of Congress today as well. So people want

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Speaker 1: to turn what's going on with the Jaguars are dysfunctional?

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Speaker 1: Will slow down, take a look at the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: That's Joe Fortunato on audio, Brent Rebrun video. Jeff will

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Speaker 1: talk to you soon. You've got Jeff Laghman. I'm JP Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.