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Speaker 2: Look at us now, timpoop.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to us doing what? Wuck? It's time

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Speaker 2: to beg Oh yeah, get fired up. We're back at

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Speaker 2: it Morning Combat directly in your face hole, Monday, April

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Speaker 2: twenty eighth, two thousand and twenty five. Ready to wrap

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Speaker 2: up the weekend that was. And if you didn't know already,

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Speaker 2: by the way, today's episode of Morning Combat brought to

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Speaker 2: you by DraftKings, DraftKings, the crown is yours. My name

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Speaker 2: is Brian Campbell. That BBC with that BD and accused

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Speaker 2: Ian Gary super Fan. So we'll see how today goes. Right.

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Speaker 2: That's Luke Thomas from Washington, d C. And Luke, even

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Speaker 2: though people are watching this on Monday morning, we are

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Speaker 2: recording on Sunday night. I had a schedule issue. You

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Speaker 2: were generous enough to go directly from Twoky's birthday party

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Speaker 2: to recording this show. That is true hashtat girl dad

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the party ended, we cleaned up, I came home,

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Speaker 3: I caught my breath for a bit, and here we

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Speaker 3: are recording on Sunday night. But we have a lot

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Speaker 3: show today I'm actually pretty pumped.

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Speaker 2: We will not only recap a fantastic UFC Kansas City

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Speaker 2: How about that maybe fight of the year that broke

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Speaker 2: word to describe what Chris you Bank Junior versus Connor

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Speaker 2: Ben made you feel.

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Speaker 3: One word yeah, begins with a no.

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Speaker 1: Joy.

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Speaker 2: I'll take joy too, yes.

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Speaker 1: Joy Like? Isn't that why you watch fights? Bro? You

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Speaker 3: For like performances like that and every day we'll get

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Speaker 3: to it. There was the build up and like his

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Speaker 3: The scenes were unbelievable, The stadium was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Like walk out with the violins, I mean, it was wild.

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Speaker 3: My only real complaint was I don't love the zone's

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Speaker 1: I mean small, small, small, small thing, small thing. I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm not hating, but in general, dude, not a home run.

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Speaker 3: That was a Grand Slam. That was a Grand Slam,

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Speaker 3: and you don't see those too too often every year,

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Speaker 1: Holy smokes, that delivered.

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Speaker 2: We'll also hit the latest news and react to it,

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Speaker 2: including a big fight announcement Dustin Poirier's retirement about BMF

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Speaker 2: title on the line in New Orleans. Get ready for

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Speaker 2: that in a how about that little KSW strong Man

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Speaker 2: action for as long as it lasted so much to

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Speaker 2: get into. No dms from Donks today because of the

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Speaker 2: odd timing of all that. But we will close with

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Speaker 2: the have you seen this ish? Why don't you though

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Speaker 2: like the video on YouTube? Why don't you subscribe to

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Speaker 2: what we got going on here? If you're listening to

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Speaker 2: audio only, I don't know, tell somebody that you really

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Speaker 2: like that. This show is fantastic. Follow us on our

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Speaker 2: extended YouTube channels. MK is here to stay. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. Also, we've got a third member

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Speaker 2: night to be an awful boyfriend. Hey, it's Long Island.

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Speaker 2: Luke noseda of the main card minute helping us out. Yeah, brother,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 1: Guys?

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 4: You know last night we got to see Ian Gary finally,

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Speaker 4: you know, bring to fruition what I've been saying for

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Speaker 4: weeks now, you know, I did think he got ten

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but.

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Speaker 3: If he did well, I I'm not sure that that

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, I think he won.

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Speaker 1: He won the first four rounds. I think we can

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Speaker 1: That was a bit of a pain. But the big

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Speaker 3: One we got a lady who did both face painting

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Speaker 2: you know, just to appease my curiosity. What percentage of

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Speaker 1: So it was great. It was. It was just awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It was beautiful. I'm tired, but I cannot complain by Arich.

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Speaker 2: Well, HBD goes out to the great Tukes. We're big fans.

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Speaker 2: And also, Luke, you can't find this shirt on store

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Speaker 2: The show we got for you, the recap we're about

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Speaker 2: to hit you with directly between the eyes. Why don't

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Speaker 2: we do it right now? With topic number one, UFC

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Speaker 2: Excuse me. We got a welterweight one that was going

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Speaker 2: to decide a lot between Ian Michadde Olgary once again

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Speaker 2: on short notice, and a red hot Carlos Pratissuo had

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Speaker 2: What we learned though through three rounds certainly changed in

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Speaker 2: five as Ian Mitchatdole, Gary did score a unanimous decision

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Speaker 2: that Gary looked sharp, particularly in those first three rounds

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Speaker 2: There's certainly a decent amount to critique and or be

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Speaker 3: Let me give you the context of how I saw

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Speaker 3: Scoring for me, forty eight forty seven for Gary is fine.

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Speaker 1: Good reason to make this fight.

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Speaker 3: Like that is a fundamental question that we needed to

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Speaker 3: And again, you know, they want to see what they

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Speaker 3: show more dimensions. My problem with this fight, such as

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Speaker 3: Gary looked bad. That is just ludicrous. It's so absurd.

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Speaker 3: honor like you know, oh, he faded a little bit

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Speaker 3: down the stretch, Yes, of course, but that can happen

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Speaker 3: when you're twenty seven and it's our first real UFC

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Speaker 3: I don't really think I learned anything new about Gary.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people here after the fight

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Speaker 3: be curious to know what that is. It's not like

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Speaker 3: he didn't show you impressive things in the course of this.

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Speaker 3: Please listen to me very closely. That's not my argument.

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Speaker 2: See I mean, we had an ending that wasn't you know,

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Speaker 2: It almost fell apart and we all got to say, see,

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Speaker 2: So I get all of that. Could he have been finished,

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Speaker 2: we did learn more. You said it was his first

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Speaker 1: The same, I guess I mean the one that he won.

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Speaker 2: There was that really sneaky uppercut that he threw in

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Speaker 2: that when you're talking about fight management, when you're talking

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Speaker 2: the trapdoor almost opened up and that Protest never stopped

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Speaker 2: and here's why. And they're right. The final two rounds

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Speaker 2: that Protest had to deal with, kind of became spammy,

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Speaker 2: he's like, you know, eighty eighty five percent good in

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Speaker 2: And he may never be a finisher, he may be

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Speaker 2: He's still evolving, he's still growing, He's got a lot

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Speaker 2: But I can't come out of here saying I didn't

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna get better. This is

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Speaker 1: What I mean is he has the ability to get

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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that he's this good at twenty

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Speaker 3: for me, there's more evidence for it. He's taking these

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Speaker 3: This is a guy I said it before, just on

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Speaker 3: the longer you let elite opposition hang around, it becomes

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Speaker 3: Like you let guys hang around, it will cost you.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely will cost you. Didn't cost him on Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: but you know he's only a set. It's going to

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Speaker 3: Does Gary have that compares to that? I don't think

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Speaker 3: you know, more to the point, it's like, yes, that

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Speaker 3: yes you can, but it's a hard way to do that.

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Speaker 3: And more to the point, it's not even about can

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Speaker 1: He's he This is what's frustrating to me.

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Speaker 3: He's not far at all from being a dynamic finisher

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Speaker 3: I mean, again, this fight was not necessarily the best

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Speaker 1: And typically he doesn't. Even in this contest.

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Speaker 3: He shows he's got a lot of elite skills and

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Speaker 3: BC like the fact that he didn't get fished in

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Speaker 1: You don't have to do that if you're twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what is gonna happen now, be see,

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Speaker 3: backup for UFC three fifteen. It sounds like it's a

436
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 3: good thing for him. I really wonder long term if

437
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 3: that's true.

438
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think the good thing again is that he

439
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: didn't get the stoppage that he's not gonna cut the line,

440
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 2: that he's probably gonna have to wait out Shavcock getting

441
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: the first title shot, or even somebody else if schof

442
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: Cut isn't ready. There's a lot of people that are

443
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: hot right now. But I don't know if I agree

444
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: on like the rushing a part. He's twenty seven, it

445
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 2: was his seventeenth pro fight, it was his tenth UFC fight,

446
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: and it's not like which sometimes happens where guys whether

447
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: it's their fault or whether it's just the way it went.

448
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: Remember I'll use Islam Maha Chef for example. By the

449
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: time he got to the to the title picture, we

450
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: were like, well, we really haven't seen him against enough escalating,

451
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: tough out names. I think Gary's got a resume that's

452
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 2: kind of glowing with those types, the Jeff Nils who

453
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: he got by by split decision, the Neil Magni, who

454
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: he grinded out of decision from I'm not here to

455
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: tell you that he is a perfect finished product really,

456
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: that he'll ever get there, or that he is, you know,

457
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: anything in the direction of a dangerous finisher. He's not.

458
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him use his knees in his

459
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: legs more offensively with that big frame at six foot three.

460
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: But I feel like, given that he's got star potential,

461
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: his time is now, and at least he's learning on

462
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 2: the JI and at least this win will slow the

463
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: role of him cutting the line and force him to

464
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: get yet another big number one contender type fight. What

465
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: I guess, what I'm saying is he may fall in

466
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: line and be in the right place at the right

467
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: time to grow right before his big close up. But

468
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: if he doesn't round out these categories, and here's the

469
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: key question, can he win the championship as is right

470
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: now without being that finishing threat? He does completely take

471
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: away your offense, he does mute what you do great.

472
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: Will that be enough against the other elites he's yet

473
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: to face in this division? I think that's the real question, Luke,

474
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: because he's not getting held back. It's one more fight

475
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: and then probably a title.

476
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: My view is the way he's built and what he's

477
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: got going on, could he win a title with what

478
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: he has?

479
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes he could.

480
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,719
Speaker 3: But I think of someone like Charles Lavera, who had

481
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: a bunch of issues that he had to iron out,

482
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: including but not limited to, you know, kind of character

483
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: under fire, which is a difficult one to fix. But

484
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: he began to like, really like those losses made him

485
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: lean into skill development and that radically transformed his chances.

486
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: You know you're asking is what Gary has good enough

487
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 3: to do?

488
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: Big work.

489
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: It is, it is, But every time he goes out there,

490
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: you know, he's he has to know he has to

491
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: be built for twenty five minutes hard every time. He

492
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 3: has to know that, you know, the chances of submission

493
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: are bleak. He has to know he doesn't have the

494
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: firepower to put these guys down. He's going to have

495
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: to labor his ass off for the entirety of it

496
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: and then risk taking a big shot and then having

497
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 3: to scramble. He got away with it against Carlos Protest

498
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: in part because Procts made some bad decisions too down

499
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: the stretch. I was surprised about, you know, he couldn't

500
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: his ground to pound and this, like, I don't know

501
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: his finishing instincts did not blow me away.

502
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: With that one. I'll just be honest with you, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like.

503
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you straight up, did he

504
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: blow it son in that round?

505
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

506
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit.

507
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: It's listen, we just talked about Gary doing everything he

508
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: could to keep moving, not get the stoppage, not just

509
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: lay there and kind of like wait out the clock.

510
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: You know, he was trying to hang on and that

511
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: makes it tough. But if you're prochest and you've been basically,

512
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: you know, behind the eight ball for more or less

513
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 3: twenty minutes.

514
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: You know, give or take how you're opinion on around

515
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: four went, this is this is it. This is your moment.

516
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: You have to absolutely know what to do to control

517
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 3: another person and then finish them off. And you're like, oh,

518
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: this is such an unfair standard. This is so high, motherfucker.

519
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: This is the ultimate fighting championship. These are people that

520
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: want to compete for a world title. Yeah, I'm going

521
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: to have high standards. Yeah, I'm going to expect them

522
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 3: to do the extra kinds of things that other guys

523
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: simply cannot do. So yes, of course, protest is good.

524
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: He might bounce back with a big win right after

525
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: this one. It wasn't like you looked terrible or anything,

526
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: but I was a little surprised how he couldn't quite

527
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: focus his efforts into a single kind of Like if

528
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: you're Sean Brady and you had a guy that hurt,

529
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: even though he's not a tremendous ground to pound guy,

530
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: I know he would have locked up a submission before

531
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: the clock and then taking his chances there.

532
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: He would have known where his bread was buttered.

533
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: It just seemed to be like Protest was kind of

534
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, waiting for serendipity a little bit, and

535
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: it didn't.

536
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: It didn't eventually show.

537
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some people were trying to give him

538
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: an out and saying Gary kept locking up his leg.

539
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: But dude, when the opening's there, your opponent's hurt, it's

540
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: late in the fifth round, you're down on the cards,

541
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: he's on his back, jump in there and hammer the

542
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: shit hit him in the back of the brainstem. They

543
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: don't call that anymore.

544
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 6: Okayes foul him seriously, seriously, I mean, just just go

545
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 6: him that that was a fail that made him more like, oh,

546
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 6: is he Cheeto Vera at welterweight?

547
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: And I do I mean to insult Cheeto Vera's He's great,

548
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: he can violently stop up to a certain level of

549
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: any opponent. But I wanted to see if Protest was

550
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: the goods. I guess the rally shows you that he

551
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: still could be the good But Luke, I wonder, and

552
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be the Gary apologist, but if

553
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: he ratcheted up his championship stamina and got to the

554
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: highest that it could get, We're not having this conversation

555
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: in my opinion against protest and he probably wins five

556
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: nothing and shuts him out. I wonder, in hindsight, if

557
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: Gary it was mismanagement of the gas tank. There was

558
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: a lot of times he was circling away, and there's

559
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: times he does a strategic and that's part of what

560
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: makes him difficult, But there's time sometimes he leans into that.

561
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: It feels like a little bit too much, using a

562
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: lot of unnecessary motion. Where I wonder if that and

563
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: how aggressively he was going for takedowns, he's still learning

564
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: that lesson that. You know, I bring up this reference

565
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: a lot, but Steve a had to learn that in

566
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: the first JDS fight over five rounds, that gas tank management.

567
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if he gets that, he'll be fine

568
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: even if he's not stopping people. Maybe to your point,

569
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: it may not be long term forever. It's hard to

570
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: do that. You let killers linger in the championship rounds.

571
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna find out eventually. But I'm wondering if really

572
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: the biggest takeaway here is just up that stammer.

573
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: It's a skill issue. It's a skill issue, and this

574
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: is the issue for me. I know we have some

575
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: audio to this effect, like, of course, dude, you win

576
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: a tough fight like that, especially if you're survived late,

577
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: you're going to be proud of it.

578
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: He should be proud of it.

579
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: Like it's again, it's a commendable effort. It's not like

580
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: I'm not at all saying he looked bad and thought no,

581
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: not true, not true. What I'm trying to point out

582
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: to you is, if you have youth on your side,

583
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: going a little slower through the queue at least in

584
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: terms of how often you take fights can pay significant

585
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: long term dividends. And it appears to me he's trading

586
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 3: on that. He's trading on that by saying, I'm actually

587
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: not going to commit to that slower, more methodical skill

588
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: development process, but what I might get in return is

589
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: I might get to fly through the queue a little

590
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: bit earlier. Okay, I think he will.

591
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: I think he is. I wonder long term if that

592
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: might cost him.

593
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: It's interesting because he does asking himself a star in

594
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: the making, you know. I mean, he's got criticized at

595
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: how much he's caught. He's copied Connor's playbook purposely at

596
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: different times, so I understand, like that's the example he's

597
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: looking at and you rush through where opportunity is and

598
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: I commend him for taking back to back short notice fights. Here,

599
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: I commend him for how much his skill is evolving.

600
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, we did. We did learn in this case

601
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: that there was a little bit of a problem along Island. Look,

602
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: I did want to get your take on how harshly

603
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: we should judge against Gary because Luke was saying, like,

604
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: the one thing I take against Luke Thomas's argument is

605
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: about the skill and when he says it's a skill

606
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: thing and not a stamina thing, it was a skill thing.

607
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: For three rounds he kicked the shit out of protests.

608
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: It was a skill thing when he got tired. Where

609
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: do you weigh in.

610
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: The middle of that.

611
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, dude, he's obviously still developing. I'm not

612
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: like the biggest Ian Gary defender here.

613
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: I just liked this matchup for him.

614
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was more like to me, the

615
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: story was more about Carlos protest getting exposed. Finally, Like,

616
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: I didn't think this protest was that good more than

617
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: I think Ian Gary's the next champ or something. But

618
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, I personally I had Ian Gary up

619
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: four rounds to none and then I scored a ten eight,

620
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: so I had it forty eight forty six. But okay,

621
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: I feel like he looked good, dude, I feel like

622
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: he looked good up until protest.

623
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: Probably could have finished him in the fifth.

624
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: You know, you guys mentioned the fight IQ, but uh, yeah,

625
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 4: I don't know that's really where I am with No.

626
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: No, I definitely, I definitely think we didn't talk about this.

627
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: We kind of made this like a focus on Ian

628
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: Gary and because you know, we obviously have high expectations

629
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: for him, and we get all that, but Long Island

630
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: Luke is right projest that this to me was like, okay, again,

631
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: he's also going up against a young stud in Ian Gary, right,

632
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: so we all have to understand that it looked to

633
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: me like the limits of his style were really put

634
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: out here where you know, he likes to counter guys

635
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: and like make them react and like with the high pressure.

636
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: And for the most part, again, for the most part,

637
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Gary really denied to him and if you denied him,

638
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: he had nowhere else to go. So we talked about

639
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: it on Friday, like who's got more ways to win?

640
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: It's not just that Gary in theory could have gone

641
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: for the takedown and then gotten it and then on

642
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: the feet too, he could have won. Obviously, Again, Protest

643
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: did a pretty good job, but I'm pointing out some

644
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: of these guys just have a certain way to win,

645
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: and if you close the door on it, they don't

646
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: know where to go they especially.

647
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: If they haven't had to fight through that on the

648
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: elite level, and he hasn't. He's been on fire since

649
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: leveling up to getting to the Dana Y Contender Series

650
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: and then the four straight stoppages. I think he exposed himself.

651
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: Luke certainly, and I don't want to say a lack

652
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: of fight IQ, but not being situationally ready to pounce

653
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: on a big opportunity around five, but even deeper, I

654
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: mean he's following Gary around the entire fight. There was

655
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: no cutting off the cage that really would have had

656
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: to force Gary into more situations where his back was

657
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: up against the fence, and those times in round four

658
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: and five when it was you saw what happened. And

659
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: credit to Protest for having the savagery and the conditioning,

660
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: even with all the talk we made about his ten

661
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: to fifteen cigarettes a day that he was the fresher

662
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: fighter late and it was that freshness that gave him

663
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: a shot in there. But yes, I think overall it

664
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: felt a little more Cheeto Vera than it fell title

665
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: shot two fights away. It did. That's where he's at.

666
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: This was his wake up call. Let's go back to

667
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: Gary to hear the first piece of sound where dude

668
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: and this he did?

669
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: What was that?

670
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: The full send guy? Afterwards he gave a pro wrestling

671
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: promo And I'm not saying I'm all in on the

672
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Gary stick and the confidence and all that. I'm not.

673
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm kind of more in on the development as a fighter.

674
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: And then you know, he does have an attractive wife, Luke,

675
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: but that's not part of my oh fucking buck coming up. No,

676
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: here's what we need though, We need this sound from him.

677
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: Tell me if you like this, hate this all that.

678
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: Look, here's some people that aren't talking about. I didn't

679
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: have to accept this fight. That's my back to back,

680
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 5: second fight in a row, in short notice, and I'm

681
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: gonna do it again in two weeks. Simon Montreal. If

682
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: I have the opportunity, I am the epitome of anyone anywhere, anytime.

683
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: And if you want to fight the best in the world.

684
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: You become the best in the world when you get

685
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: victories out today, and the world better realize and put

686
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: some fucking respect to my name.

687
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: Now I am one of.

688
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 5: The best farts in this division.

689
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 7: You know me.

690
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: I hate me. You better show me some fucking respect now.

691
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: It's like, I can't tell you I like it. Yeah, like,

692
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: I like it, but it's a little cringe. But I

693
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: also kind of think it's ballsy, right.

694
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: I like it. I like the moxie.

695
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: I like his belief and dude, I'll say this, I

696
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: can dude. You know this dude doesn't duck smoke bro.

697
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he is out there to win it and

698
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: he believes he can. And again, he's got so many

699
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: different ways to manage the exchanges that you know he

700
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: can do impressive things. I don't mind the confidence. It's

701
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: just a I don't know, man, It's it's hard to explain,

702
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: but I just feel like as somebody who watches like

703
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: a ton of tape and like when you have an

704
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 3: eye for watching tape. And I'm not saying like I'm

705
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: especially good of what I'm saying is, when you do it,

706
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: you are looking for mistakes, You're looking for shortcomings and

707
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: it's a little frustrating for me that he's kind of

708
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: got to this point and he's like, Okay, this is

709
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: good enough to win. True, True, it is good enough

710
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: to win, but it's not as good as you can be.

711
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: It's not even close. And I just want more for him,

712
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: given what he's on the doorstep of Does that make sense?

713
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I hope that it does.

714
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: No, it completely does. The question will be that we

715
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: don't have the answer for can He's he's taken all

716
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: the other parts of his game up with him as

717
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: he stepped up in competition, But these are really big

718
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: ones that he hasn't yet finalized or figured out, both

719
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: the staminable, the finishing ability. But I mean, look, you

720
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: got to give it to him, Like across the board,

721
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: he's as like well rounded as you'll get at the

722
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: elite level, like the all the tiny intangibles, all the movement,

723
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: not you know, being in the right place right time

724
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: until he got tired, and that's a big deal. Look,

725
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: I almost want to see Protest go full wild man

726
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: if you're gonna do the smoking, drinking bit, and you're

727
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: also like fun and you're part of this faction of

728
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: the fighting nerds that we're all kind of cheering for

729
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: because they're crazy and they go after it. I kind

730
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 2: of want to see him not be a technical guy fall,

731
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: you know, I'd want to see him go in there

732
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: and throw caution to the win more.

733
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, going technique for technique with

734
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: Ian I don't think worked well for him generally speaking. Right,

735
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: you have to go in there and get him off

736
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: of that game, and you know, great, you stuffed a

737
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: bunch of his shots. That's great. That actually was I

738
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: thought pretty impressive. But he I mean, here's the thing

739
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: that Gary does so well is that he just constantly

740
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: disrupts your rhythm. Every time you try to get going,

741
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: he just you know, lightly shuts it off, lightly shuts

742
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: it off, and the accumulative effect of it is enormous.

743
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: And dude, he had no answer for that. Like we're

744
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: talking about Ian Gary's skill development, we was talking about

745
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: Carlos is Like, dude, he's got work to do.

746
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: Maybe put away the ashtray, Luke babe.

747
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I can't imagine that helps. But

748
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: even more than that, it's.

749
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: Like again, lefties switched to left handed cigarettes right down on.

750
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: You can only have a singular way to win in

751
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: this game if that singular way is lights out, and

752
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: even then it really needs to be all It needs.

753
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: To be multifaceted.

754
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 7: Uh.

755
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: And I don't think he's quite absorbed that lesson yet, but.

756
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: He does get a lot of training all over the place.

757
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: And I know by now everybody's watching, Oh my god,

758
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: BC just starting only fans with him, But no, I

759
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: just think like he's evolving. What do you think of

760
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: his corner though, of Diego Lima and Damian Mile.

761
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an amazing corner.

762
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, it's pretty good people that he seems to

763
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: be working with representing Shoot to Box. Let's close out

764
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: some of the sound. We have to fully frame the

765
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: rest of the story because look, the big question is

766
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: what's next. I am of the belief Jack Delametolano. Of

767
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: course we already know is the UFC three sixteen June

768
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: seventh opponent for Blal. I'm of the belief that it

769
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: should be Shavcott next. But if Shavcott is not ready,

770
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm ready for Sean Brady to get to cut the

771
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: line and get either the rematch against Blal or just

772
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: get a straight title shot. YEA, let's say Shafcott is healthy.

773
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: Do you feel like Sean Brady Ian Gary is that

774
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: final Boss number one contender fight to get to the top.

775
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: It's either it's either that or the Buckley fight. And

776
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: I know we'll talk about this because Buckley has work

777
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: cut out for him in Atlanta.

778
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: But it's one of those two.

779
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Let's hear Gary talk about his plan and how he's

780
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: going to get to the belt.

781
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: You guys know I like plans, right, you guys know

782
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 5: I have visions in my mind. Well, let me tell

783
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 5: you what's next. I'm gonna fight the winner. I believe

784
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 5: it's Balal, and that's nothing against Jack. I just believe

785
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: stylistically Blal has the what it takes to get this

786
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 5: fight done and quite convincing. So I'm gonna fight Balal next.

787
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna beat Balo. Balal has said it many many times.

788
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 5: I am the toughest opponent in the division for him

789
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 5: them and Palal doesn't have the belt. There's a certain

790
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 5: pound for pound number one who wants to come up,

791
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 5: and his name is Islam Makashev and I have nothing

792
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 5: but love and respect for that man in his style.

793
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 5: There and be an honored to share the octagon with him.

794
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: I would love to wear out the improve against him

795
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 5: in my first title defense that I'm the pound for

796
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 5: pound number one, I be him, I take that status.

797
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: I win, I win my first title defense, and then

798
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 5: Shavka gets the rematch, and I'm gonna go out there

799
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 5: and I am going to dismantle that man and prove

800
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: that he never won that fight. And that's my next fight.

801
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 5: Three flight pound. That's how I see it going, and

802
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want that any other way.

803
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, that's brash. It's good to have a plan.

804
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: He's carrying himself like a star. But I think for

805
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: his development and for the the hierarchy and the whole

806
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: ranking system, like he can't be next unless he had

807
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: gotten a stop edge, and you're like, okay, they're gonna

808
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: roll the dice on the star. So his plan seems

809
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: a little bit flawed. Do you think though, that, like,

810
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: if you're the backup, you're not guaranteed the next title shot.

811
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: We've seen a million guys be backups that that were

812
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: just being opportunists in that moment. I don't think the

813
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: backup gets it to him. Do you think the UFC

814
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: will see the value in making him earn it one

815
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: more time. Can fuck with meritocracy if you didn't if

816
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: he cut the line now.

817
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: I think he'll cut the line if they need him to.

818
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: Like fought Rockmannel on short notice, took this one on

819
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: short notice. If they need a lifeline, they'll call them. Well,

820
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: because you know what's ian Gary gonna say?

821
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: No, you know what I mean.

822
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: But I don't know if it's like I don't know

823
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: if that beyond that, if he's like front of the

824
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: pack for them. I think that to me remains unclear

825
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 3: and probably not true.

826
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, let's hear from the boss, Dana White

827
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: reviewing Gary's performance after the fight.

828
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 8: He definitely gets in there and and uh controls everything

829
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 8: at the pace what he wants to do when he

830
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 8: wants to do it, even against the guy. You know,

831
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 8: the question was tonight with proudest going there and put

832
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 8: unbelievable pressure on him stay in his faith. Then then

833
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 8: then we were wondering, you know, would he even take

834
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 8: him down and hold him down? You know, So those

835
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 8: were all the all the questions we had too were answered.

836
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 8: But this is one of those fights that on paper,

837
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 8: you know, the kid's thirty one years old. He's got

838
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 8: a great record, and it's not tonight like like he

839
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 8: went out there and you know, did some uh you

840
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 8: know if he did some some m a shit that

841
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 8: this kid isn't ready for yet or whatever. With a

842
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 8: stand up fight, and he controlled the pace, he controlled everything.

843
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 8: He did what he wanted to do when he wanted

844
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 8: to do it. But the great thing was in the

845
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 8: last round Prodest obviously was trying to finish the fight.

846
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: So Ian announced himself as the official backup for your

847
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 5: well toweight title fight in Montreal?

848
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: Is that official?

849
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: Did he just announce that himself?

850
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: It's official?

851
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's doing what you do. If you

852
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: want to be you know what Chandler did, you want

853
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: to get to the top, you'd be ready, you'd be available.

854
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Let's see if it's to his detriment. So, Luke, do

855
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: you think if Buckley beats Usmann, Buckley's Buckley is not

856
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: going to cut the line here? Buckley would fight, would

857
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: fight Gary next.

858
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: That's that's that's my guess.

859
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: My guess is if Buckley wins, comes out relatively unscathed,

860
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: they're gonna make that fight.

861
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: Yes, well, now, look, could you give me odds on

862
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: your thoughts here as the betting degenerate of what the

863
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: Gary odds would be against Buckley and Brady.

864
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 4: Against Buckley, He's definitely gonna be the favorite. I'd say

865
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: like minus one fifty Buckley plus one twenty five.

866
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: You don't want f round with new Man's round four though,

867
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: you don't want to do that.

868
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then shit, Sean Brady is a good one.

869
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 4: That might be like a pick them, that might be

870
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 4: like minus one ten either way.

871
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: I mean, look, that would come down to his takedown defense.

872
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: But if he could stop the takedown against Sean Brady,

873
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: you might be in the driver's seat for another five

874
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: round decision.

875
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: Right, But I don't. I am less confident that Gary

876
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 3: can get away. I mean, so, for example, Gary got

877
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: away with one because MVP's grappling is not super awesome. Yes,

878
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: got away with one. I mean he lost, but like

879
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: he he lets something slip through his fingers against Rockmanov

880
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: because his finishing mechanics weren't great. Here, he survived, but

881
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: he led a guy with you know, pretty respectable power

882
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: and good pressure hang around. It's like, okay, the rock

883
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: Monov one because you know, who knows what state rock

884
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: Monov was in because he was obviously pretty fucked up physically.

885
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: But I have a feeling that we're about to get

886
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: to a territory where it's going to be less forgiving

887
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: on some of this stuff. This is kind of my problem.

888
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: It's like, you though, when you have when you have

889
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: visibly vulnerable that you know, like asking you Joshuah he

890
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: was champion of boxing, was like every fight he's on

891
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: the verge of getting, you know, caught with one random

892
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: shot that turns the entire fight around.

893
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: It's like, dud, It's like it's almost like Gary is

894
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: going to turn every opponent into Tank Davis. And what

895
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean by that is, you know, Tank loses long

896
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: stretches of the fight and then just puts one on

897
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: him and then you know, not the roach fight, but

898
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: you know, historically that's typically what happen happens. And I'm

899
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: not saying that you know, Buckley is is Tank Davis,

900
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: but I'm saying, you know, just he's gonna win long

901
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: stretches of that fight, but he's gonna get clobbered with

902
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: one at some point. And dude, it's all bets are off,

903
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: Like he lets these people hang around that to me

904
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: is the problem.

905
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, we do you let these people hang around

906
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: in your house, you know your wallet's gonna be missing,

907
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: your get knocked up? Yeah, you know you got to

908
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: get these squatters out of there. Let's also see some

909
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: bushido here by Gary, who wanted to show that Brazilian

910
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: love and respect of his wife's uh origin homeland. I

911
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: don't know. Is this from the UK? I don't know.

912
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: Let's just watch.

913
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know, dude, I don't care.

914
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 9: I feel you're gonna sit the other again, maybe before

915
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 9: they died due this.

916
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, pam.

917
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 5: Vine Sina the bagel at his rightn't seen him there?

918
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: Look, isn't he just me if I married a woman

919
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: from South America? Stre's really we've gotten We've gotten to

920
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: the bottom of it.

921
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: Right, You're much closer to process smoking galaxy gas, yes, yes,

922
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: you know, and drinking and making otherwise questionable life choices.

923
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

924
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: Indeed. Also, we got one final piece of sound, and

925
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: this is Joaquin Buckley. We're gonna get to the breakdown

926
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: of his upcoming fight in Atlanta against Kamara Usman. But

927
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: he was at the fight. He gave his thoughts on

928
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: me and Gary, right right.

929
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 9: So the reason why he don't understand me is because

930
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 9: I don't speak cooking knees, you understand. So so I

931
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 9: can understand why he didn't understand me the first time.

932
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 9: But you know, when I was out there and you know,

933
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 9: he doing his way in, you know, and I'm not

934
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 9: trying to get into his head and nothing like that.

935
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 9: But when you talk a light, when you talk like that,

936
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 9: don't act like when you see me like I'm invisible,

937
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 9: you talking about me, You're saying my name? How that

938
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 9: let me know something? But you know, his gil very protective,

939
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 9: protecting their man.

940
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

941
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 9: She using a baby, I can see you whatever, But

942
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 9: it just is what it is, you know. But I

943
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 9: really want to see what you know any Gary's about.

944
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 9: It's just what he had to say to me in person.

945
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 9: And he was real quiet.

946
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: So what did you make of that reaction then that

947
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: you got from because we saw I think the security

948
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: tried to escort him off the stage and he kind

949
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: of stood there and.

950
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing happened.

951
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 9: I mean, this girl was touching on my arm and

952
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 9: stuff like that, you know what I mean, caress my arm.

953
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: I ain't know what all that was about.

954
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 9: But I feel like, you know, security, you know, you know,

955
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 9: they gotta do their job because they just never know

956
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 9: how fight it's gonna react, you know, so you know,

957
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 9: shout out to.

958
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Them, but you know, all out for me.

959
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 9: I just want to promote and have a conversation because

960
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 9: if we really gonna get down, let's get paid for it.

961
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: Look, they were referencing the ceremonial way and when Buckley

962
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: was standing near Ian Gary's wife, who long Islan Luca's

963
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: reporting is from London but has a Brazilian mother, Luke,

964
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: since you were very interested in the details there, I

965
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: mean him coming out to Laylah by Derek and the Domino's.

966
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: That's that's also that's like real cool and a monster

967
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: cuck move at the same time. But like it's I

968
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: don't know, Luca may you.

969
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: May sometimes they intersect sometimes.

970
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: As they do. So that that's that from Buckley. He

971
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was all about. Now he's

972
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: saying that she was getting up on the arm. I mean,

973
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a great rivalry. It's gonna be

974
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: a great fight. Would you want this more than the

975
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Sean Brady fight for you?

976
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: Yes?

977
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: And in the I would love to see both.

978
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: But in the words of Joaquin Buckley, it's Cuck versus

979
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: buck is gone.

980
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: Feed nations. You understand like it's gonna be it's gonna

981
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: be a winner.

982
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's speak about some more winners, by the way,

983
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,759
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984
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,040
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985
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986
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987
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988
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989
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990
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991
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993
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:14,000
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994
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: they should check their calendars and circle it. Now, why

995
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: don't you tell them about it?

996
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so not this Wednesday, obviously, but next Wednesday. I

997
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: believe May seven, if that's correct, correct, we're going to

998
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: be sitting down with the iceman himself, Chuck Mindenhall, to

999
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: get you guys ready for UFC three fifteen. Our friends

1000
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,920
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1001
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a good time, have a little tasty beverage.

1002
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: Get ready for some big UFC fights. It's gonna be

1003
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 3: a great time.

1004
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be fantastic. Let me get that Blanco

1005
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: all right up in this uh in this uh gringo. Luke, Okay,

1006
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: let's keep it going. Topic number two. It was the

1007
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: rest of UFC Kansas City and look this fight night

1008
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: car was electric. So what happens when you put it

1009
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: in front of very hungry fans who want the UFC

1010
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: in a big way? So, Luke Thomas, there's a lot

1011
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: of results to look in this one, but a big

1012
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: one was the retirement of Anthony Smith in the co

1013
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: main event and the handling of it so he ultimately

1014
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Smith, the former light heavyweight title contender, would get

1015
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: bludgeoned in his fight that would come against Jeng Ming Yang.

1016
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: The stoppage is questionable, but not I don't think the

1017
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: stoppage of Smith's career. I want to say really nice

1018
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: things about Smith, and we will, but I did want

1019
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: to get your opinion on how they handled it. They

1020
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: had a decorated, detailed video package ready, Luke like Hall

1021
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: of Fame treatment ready. This guy's beloved, there's no question

1022
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 2: by his colleagues, but they gave him the full red

1023
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: carpet love exit treatment here after the conclusion of a

1024
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: very respectful career.

1025
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: People are so wrong about Anthony Smith. And I realize

1026
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: that he says stuff that is, you know, kind of ludicrous,

1027
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: and the Internet likes to dunk on him and whatnot.

1028
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, the people who are clowning him,

1029
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: you're just telling me it's fine, Like nobody has to

1030
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: have been around forever. But like people are like, oh,

1031
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 3: why is the UFC staff doing it well?

1032
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: Number one?

1033
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: Like they might like Anthony Smith more than they like

1034
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: step Amocich. And I understand that, like, you know, STEVEE

1035
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: had a much better career, but nevertheless, like it's their organization.

1036
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: People are like, oh, they're playing favorites. I'm like, did

1037
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: you just show up? This is you know, this is

1038
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: kind of how it goes but putting that aside, the

1039
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: reason why Anthony Smith gets a lot of respect from

1040
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: his colleagues is not just because he works there as

1041
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: a commentator or because you know, he shows up and

1042
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 3: fights even against tremendous odds. It's because this guy was

1043
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: never supposed to be here to begin with, and he

1044
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: forced his way in the door. And when you do

1045
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: something like that, people take notice. He was a also

1046
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: ran guy from the Midwest who was, you know, not

1047
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: remarkable in Strike Force, had to fight in Belatore, had

1048
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: an initial fight in UFC that didn't go anywhere. Washed

1049
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: out of that kind of came back, did like the

1050
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: regional scene a million times, won a bunch of fights,

1051
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: lost some fights, won a bunch of fights, lost some fights.

1052
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: But then somewhere along the way everything began to click

1053
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: and people are like, oh, all he did was end

1054
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: up beating you know, I'll make something up Rashad and

1055
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: Shogun and they were washed. Okay, he definitely built his

1056
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: name doing that, but you know, beating vulcan Uzdamir the

1057
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: way he did, beating Gustason the way he did.

1058
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he.

1059
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely turned into something that not one person who was

1060
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: watching his career two three years before that would have

1061
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: ever predicted he is a success story despite the many,

1062
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: many odds that were in front of him, and he

1063
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: was not you know, he was not first round draft pick.

1064
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's no no draft, but you know,

1065
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: whatever the equivalent would be, he was not that guy.

1066
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: But he just refused to go away.

1067
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: He refused to succumb to the broader set of circumstances

1068
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 3: and turned himself into a very for a time anyway,

1069
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: obviously not anymore, but for a time he turned himself

1070
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: into a very respectable fighter in a UFC title contender.

1071
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to like what he says

1072
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: in the media. Fine, and if you want to say

1073
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: the last few years have just been not you know,

1074
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: super impressive.

1075
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: Who's going to argue with you.

1076
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: But people acting like, you know, oh, I don't get

1077
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: why they like this guy. They like this guy because

1078
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 3: he fucking earned it. That's why they liked this guy.

1079
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: And you have to understand when you go from absolutely

1080
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: nothing to something pretty remarkable, people tend to take notice.

1081
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: I recommend other people try.

1082
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give him, there's no question you give him that.

1083
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a seventeen year career in which

1084
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: he had sixty fights. I mean, he was coming into

1085
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: his own in the UFC with like thirteen losses at

1086
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: the time. Because there were times he didn't take his

1087
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: career seriously or didn't you know, he wasn't given those

1088
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: big opportunities. When we sat down with him for Room

1089
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: service diaries, any lingering jokes about ah luke, that's your guy,

1090
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: let's all you know, have fun here, they got to

1091
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: go out the window because you meet the guy and

1092
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: he's so genuine And I think the biggest takeaway I

1093
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: had from our RSD with him is exactly what you

1094
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: see played out in his fights and sometimes especially on

1095
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: this losing streak to end his career where he lost

1096
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: four of his last five and was stopped in three

1097
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: of them, you don't want to see him take punishment.

1098
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to point out his ability to

1099
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: take punishment was one of his greatest calling cards. But

1100
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: on the flip side of that, obviously it's it's his

1101
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: durability and his courage. And when he told this on

1102
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: the RSD, was he just doesn't have an off switch

1103
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: to say no or stop when he's in turmoil, and

1104
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: that can obviously be a gnarly situation in fights against

1105
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: absolute killers who are pouring it on you. But that's

1106
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: the spirit that got them to where he was, and

1107
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: I certainly have so much respect for that. I was

1108
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: surprised Luke though, that they gave I mean, I was

1109
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: surprised they gave that treatment to Waterson too, and how

1110
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: they're selective, Like I don't remember DC getting the red

1111
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: carpet rolled out, you can you know the Robbie Lawler

1112
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: won the Manda Nunis one. I thought they handled beautifully.

1113
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: That they're not that critiquing how they handle it is

1114
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: really a thing. But I was surprised that they like

1115
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: gave him the champion treatment.

1116
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they they gave him more than they gave

1117
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: step A.

1118
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: And for people who be like, I don't think that's fair,

1119
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: I fully agree with you, fully agree with you.

1120
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: The argument isn't that, you know, they shouldn't have done

1121
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: it for Smith.

1122
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: The argument should be, if they're gonna do something like

1123
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: that for Smith, then they should do something like that

1124
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: or more for somebody like Stepe. That's the arguments of me,

1125
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: like people being like, oh, I have no idea why

1126
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: Smith's colleagues seem to like him so much, well, pay

1127
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: better attention to his history.

1128
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a mystery.

1129
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: We know that a guy like Cowboy Seroni, for example,

1130
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: wasn't a champion, but it has just carved out such

1131
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: an identity. And some of that is the character and

1132
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: what he represents too, but obviously it's the badass fights,

1133
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: the willingness to fight all the time. I mean, Smith

1134
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: fulfilled that in a different character way, and that's very

1135
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: valuable to a company, and the UFC appreciates that. When

1136
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: you've got somebody who can headline on the moment's notice

1137
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: and you can put him in there against anybody, they're

1138
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: willing to fight, they will want to be out there

1139
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: competing and can do it at a high level for

1140
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: a long time. I'd be killing, you know, I'd be

1141
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: given a disservice if we didn't respect this man for

1142
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: what he's accomplished. And and he's an inspiration too on

1143
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: top of that. And look, the great news is that

1144
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: even though I don't agree with his takes on power Slap,

1145
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: he's a good broadcaster. He's a good podcaster, like he

1146
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: can add to this space in a lot of ways

1147
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: moving forward. So it's great to see him go out

1148
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: on his own terms here.

1149
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: Well, so I didn't. I didn't hate the stop it.

1150
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: He got cut real bad with that elbow when they

1151
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: were standing, and you know he wasn't exactly, but dude,

1152
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 3: did you know to borrow from uh? From Stephen Bredman?

1153
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: Edwards look to me like he had a little loose

1154
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: change on him.

1155
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: You know, Yes, I was.

1156
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: Okay with it.

1157
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: He should have been done probably, And again I haven't.

1158
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: Everyone else can hate Anthony Smith. I don't, but I

1159
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: do think he probably should have called it a day,

1160
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: maybe even after the Vitor Petrino fight. To be perfectly

1161
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: honest with you, you know, so I was happy that

1162
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: they closed it off, to be honest.

1163
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: When you get wins like that, you get that itch

1164
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: if it's exactly and look it's not. I remember a

1165
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: Rishot always being honest with us. That transition. Now that

1166
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: he's going to have, at least he has things to

1167
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: fall back on, but it's gonna be hard for anyone.

1168
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: So because that's the that's what motivates him, that's his identity,

1169
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: that's his craft, his favorite thing. So I can identify

1170
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: with that. But we wish Anthony Smith, well, here's his

1171
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: final message on the Twitter to call off a great

1172
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: career on the IG, which you know I'm gonna be

1173
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: honest with. That's too small for me to read right now.

1174
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: That's a rap.

1175
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: Congrats to Jang. The light heavyweight division is on notice.

1176
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: You're going to have a great career. Thank you to

1177
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: all the people who have supported me all these years.

1178
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: I was never good enough to make it this far.

1179
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm just really happy that it all happened. Thank you

1180
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: to the UFC for saving my life. Dude, Like, this

1181
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: is what I mean, man, that you know, these improbable.

1182
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: Stories are people who are never ever ever supposed to

1183
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: be here and then they find a way to do it.

1184
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: And I don't know people.

1185
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: People can like and dislike who they want p see.

1186
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: But I think that's pretty admirable.

1187
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Do you like his tattoo package over it?

1188
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't, okay.

1189
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: I just wanted to hear the truth.

1190
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 3: He's got a couple of them that are pretty good,

1191
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: for sure, But he's got a lot that I.

1192
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: Not to get a lot of dream catchers. But it worked, Luke,

1193
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: he caught him for sure, John Min Yong Luke, he

1194
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: seems like he's got some charisma. He gave some really

1195
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: corny one liners in English afterwards. Here is him talking

1196
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 2: about who he really wants to fight next time.

1197
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: I want to you.

1198
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 10: It says, want you to be sad, you need?

1199
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: What's that when I see him?

1200
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's that I watched your fight in Singapore and

1201
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 11: you want your fell that fight. I like your style,

1202
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 11: to respect your your warrior spirit. And now, although you

1203
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 11: are not a champion anymore, but I would like to

1204
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 11: fight you to test myself.

1205
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: Look, that's a big call out. Are you like an

1206
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: early belief that there's something there with that guy? Because

1207
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: he's got size too.

1208
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: Mmm, no, but he's got he's no, No, you think he's.

1209
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: A dog in waiting. I know you do.

1210
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 3: I know he's a little bit better than a donk.

1211
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 3: He's not like I mean in some of his other fights,

1212
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: I was.

1213
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: Like, oh Jesus, okay, you know, but he you.

1214
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 3: Know, he's got a little something to him. But I don't.

1215
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't.

1216
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1217
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: I'm not penciling him in for a title shot. I'll

1218
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: put it that way.

1219
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, Uh, Luke, be honest with you. Did

1220
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: Michelle Pereira, who had a full ensemble dance to the cage,

1221
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: which is his old calling card, and then he used

1222
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: to gas out right. Oh no he still does, Luke,

1223
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: he guessed out here a boost Maga Metov gets a

1224
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: thirty to twenty seven on all three. What are we doing?

1225
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing here?

1226
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: Luke he you know.

1227
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: So so this gets back to that debate that Jed

1228
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: and I had about Yeerie on the on the pregame

1229
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: preview from a couple of fights ago, where I was like, no,

1230
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 3: he should get better, like he you know, like, oh,

1231
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: he's exciting.

1232
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: We don't want to change that.

1233
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: But I'm like, yeah, you're he has been at the time,

1234
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: he's gotten Now he's better or we'll see.

1235
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: But like his last performance obviously a gats Jamal Hill

1236
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: was really good.

1237
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: Uh, but before that he just had poor defense, And

1238
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can you can have better defense and

1239
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: still like be who you are, And to me, that

1240
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: Jamal Hill fight is like total evidence of that. But

1241
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: then you have someone like Perreiro where it's like, oh,

1242
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 3: we want to make you better, and then you kind

1243
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: of make him, you know, like a cookie cutter kind

1244
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 3: of fighter, and it just ruins him.

1245
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: It just ruins him.

1246
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: It ruined him completely and more to the point, you know,

1247
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: it's like, dude, how are you this muscular and athletic

1248
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: and your cardio is that shitty?

1249
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: Like how is that? How is that possible? How are you.

1250
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Dance? Luke? That takes a lot out of him, man,

1251
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: I Like.

1252
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable. So to me, it's like, you know,

1253
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: I maybe he has got a future in karate combat.

1254
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying that pejoratively, Like, you know, dude,

1255
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: sam Alvi has a few had like has carved himself

1256
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: out a little niche over there, but he doesn't have

1257
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 3: a bright future in the UFC.

1258
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: I could say that.

1259
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: I think that's another guy where he's just gotta go

1260
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: full on clown now and just like be a crazy

1261
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: Like I think he needed to be all or nothing

1262
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: a lot of ways on whether he's gonna take it

1263
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 2: serious and not flip off the cage in the middle

1264
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: of the fight. Like I know, it's super exciting he

1265
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: does superhero shit, but if he's gonna do I know,

1266
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: like there's the connection with the crowd that brings him

1267
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: in joy. I've heard long interviews from him before translated

1268
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: where he just like talks about that the adoration of

1269
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 2: the fans is like everything. That why he's in here.

1270
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: He just wants to entertain. So just be the full

1271
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: on brawler, crazy entertainer, Spider Man opponent, Like, just lean

1272
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: into it completely because because trying to try to do

1273
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: both is not working for you. Look, there's a lot

1274
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: of fights you could talk about on here, but was

1275
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: there a better brawl than Randy Brown at welterweight? And

1276
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: Nicholas Dalby, who Dolby's knows was was pointing at jan

1277
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: Duropa Luke and you know what I mean. The thing

1278
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: here is he almost scorted a stoppage after getting after

1279
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: being on the verge of death, but lingered long enough

1280
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: for Randy Brown to give him the old I mean,

1281
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: that is just a brute tall ko. What does this

1282
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: say about Randy Brown, Luke? Because that's your fight of

1283
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: the night. The crowd went bannah nah Luke, They went

1284
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: full Jason Rosario.

1285
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: I thought for the most part, I mean, obviously Brown

1286
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: got dropped and what was that the was he get

1287
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: dropped in the first He got dropped in the first, right, Yeah, yea,

1288
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: he got dropped in the first. And I was like, oh,

1289
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: you know, because before that he was looking pretty good.

1290
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: He was keeping he was keeping Dolby at the end

1291
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: of his punches, he was flowing, he was kind of pressuring,

1292
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: you know, he was dealing with any kind of blitz.

1293
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: He gets dropped because he kind of doubled up on

1294
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: his jab and didn't take good account of the defense.

1295
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: But you know, in general, dude, Like it's kind of funny.

1296
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this. It's like, how many times

1297
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: do you have to get to know someone to really

1298
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: understand them as a fighter, you know what I mean,

1299
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: Like you see them as a prospect, you kind of

1300
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: get a sense after a few fights, and you know,

1301
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: sometimes they can change jet up a little bit later

1302
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 3: as a contender.

1303
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: Brown's thirty four.

1304
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: But it's like I feel like he's actually finally starting

1305
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 3: to really put everything together and like you almost now

1306
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 3: have to take a brand new look at him. I'm

1307
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: not here to say that, like, oh, in this stacked division,

1308
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: for a guy who's been here forever, all of a sudden,

1309
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: he's just gonna start surging through. It's really not my point,

1310
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: but clearly he can do I think I never I

1311
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: never thought poorly of him, but I didn't know if

1312
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: he was going to ascend to anything into the ranked spaces, right.

1313
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: He might be ready for four or five looks.

1314
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly like now he might be ready for that.

1315
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: And that ko was vicious again, Not everyone's going to

1316
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 3: kind of charge at you in that way that's going

1317
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: to enable that dude. It almost with that right hand

1318
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: and the way Dalby felt it almost looked like Holloway

1319
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: putting Gaygee's lights out a little bit. I mean, obviously

1320
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: slightly different, but it had a similar kind of feel

1321
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: that in that precise moment. So I'm just trying to

1322
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 3: point out, like, dude, Randy Brown is asking us to

1323
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: take a new look at him, and I think he's earned.

1324
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: I think he's earned us kind of trying to reevaluate

1325
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: who he is at this stage and with this win,

1326
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: he should move up the ladder and wherever that might be.

1327
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: And I thought it was very imps again, even with

1328
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1329
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: Of adversity in general, pretty impressive.

1330
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: And look, he was born in Springfield, mass right near

1331
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: myself before moving to Jamaica as a toddler. The one

1332
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: loss in that five fight, since he was subbed out

1333
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: by Jack Della, was that Brian battlefight that was not

1334
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: only a split decision and could have gone his way,

1335
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: but remember battle missed Wade and then was like, all about,

1336
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to use the weight that I missed to

1337
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: wrestle you the whole way and just win. Like it was.

1338
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: He actually is probably better than that stretch indicates.

1339
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 10: Now.

1340
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to make that next leap, Luke,

1341
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: but he earned this one. Holy shit, And dude, Alby

1342
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: took a bite in Luke. He took a damn beating

1343
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: on national television. Thank you for that, Nicholas Dlby that one,

1344
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: were you not entertained from the crowd just losing their

1345
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: fricking mind, Like that's what every Saturday night is supposed

1346
01:01:59,480 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: to be, Luke.

1347
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: That's what it is. That's what he delivered. They asked

1348
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: him to deliver, and he did. And again I think,

1349
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: you know, to your point about the battle fight, which

1350
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: was the one just before this, you know, it didn't

1351
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: go his way and it was weird, But like you know,

1352
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: in general, dude, he's looking like he's looking like he

1353
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: can do a little something something. I would like to

1354
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 3: see what that ultimately leads us to.

1355
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you like those videos? Going around where you

1356
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: bank seniors like Rasafari. He's pretty bad ass.

1357
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: Luke, I've not seen that.

1358
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, there's a whole new rabbit hole

1359
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: you need to go down of When he adopts his

1360
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: mother's tongue and does the Jamaican bit, but then then

1361
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: works right back into the classy English bit. I mean,

1362
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: the guy's like, Okay, he should be on Broadway or something, Luke.

1363
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: You know he's he's a wow all right, Luke. Also,

1364
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: Jiga Chikazi, you argued he could have been the favorite here.

1365
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: It was a competitive ass fight, but he lost two

1366
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: rounds one to David Oama across the board in their

1367
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: catchway Long Island.

1368
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: Luke, how did you score that fight? Twenty nine twenty

1369
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: eight Onama? What is your sense about where Chikazi is anymore?

1370
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 11: So?

1371
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: Dude, he looked damn good round one.

1372
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: I said, if he could keep up this pace for

1373
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: three rounds, like, he's someone to be messed with. As

1374
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 4: soon as Onama realized he could take him down, he

1375
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 4: was like, oh shit, well this is an easy path

1376
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 4: to victory. And I feel like anyone now going forward

1377
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 4: is just going to follow that game plan.

1378
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: So right, yeah to me. To me, I think it's

1379
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: a good read.

1380
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: I think Chikazi has like overall a higher level of

1381
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: certain kinds of skills, but I don't I'm hesitant to

1382
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: say damage goods we see, but I feel like he's

1383
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 3: been solved. And once once that happens to you, it's

1384
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: hard to wrestle that back.

1385
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: He's in a tough place.

1386
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree with you on that, but this

1387
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: is uh, this card delivered Luke Ikromala Scaroff first round

1388
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: hammer to Andre Munize. Terrible he did, but like Alice

1389
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: Scaroff needed this coming off of that Whittaker demology, demolition

1390
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: and the time off. I wasn't like overly impressed, but

1391
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: he's a hammer. He dropped the hammer. The fight was

1392
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: over quickly after that.

1393
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean he hit him in like you know,

1394
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: he just pressure up against the fence, got a few

1395
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: shots through that would it wobbled him or it dropped

1396
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: him anyway, and then he polished him off basically like

1397
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't tell us much, but good for

1398
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 3: Aliecaoff to you know, get back on the winning track

1399
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: or whatever.

1400
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: And dude, Matt Schnell in the preliminary featured about coming

1401
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: out of retirement at flyweight against Jimmy Flick. First of all,

1402
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: that was a great fight. I felt like the decision

1403
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: was was kind of up in the air. Dude, Schnell

1404
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: should just stop with his retirement bit. The dude still

1405
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: got it. This fight was musty TV. Look it was.

1406
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: It was a great TV fight against small fighters just

1407
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: switching positions, grapple and like natst down there.

1408
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: It's just what It's just a question of what these

1409
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: guys want, you know, like Jim Miller was able to

1410
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: extend his career because he was willing to take fights

1411
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: to other guys you know, at his stage are typically

1412
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: not I don't think Schnell's gonna win a title at flyweight, don't.

1413
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily unfair BC.

1414
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 3: But if he wants to fight these kinds of guys

1415
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: and these kinds of fights, to your point, he seems

1416
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 3: fully capable of winning them and doing it in exciting fashion.

1417
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 2: As much as I'm impressed with him, and I'm like, yeah,

1418
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: stay around, this was great, am I just impressed that

1419
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: we're out of the APEX. I mean, it's not like

1420
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: we haven't been out of the APEX lately, but I

1421
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: feel like this is that fresh reminder. Even though I

1422
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: liked this card on paper and I love the Main Event,

1423
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: this is that fresh reminder that when you're in a

1424
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: location that is just yearning for it, and there's a

1425
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: lot of those locations still even with the price gouge

1426
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: and going on, that people are breaking down walls to

1427
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: come see the UFC. Dude, this matters, This adds to it.

1428
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: There was a bunch of moments on this card where

1429
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: I come back from the bathroom and it sounds like

1430
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: main event level pops from that crowd that just kind

1431
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: of fuels like a addictive like STDs in college, Luke,

1432
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: he just gets passed around so quickly it gets contagious, right.

1433
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: The Casey crowd was very STD like, Yeah, you know,

1434
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: if if you're willing to make that, if you're willing

1435
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: to reach or around. Hey, Luke, what else did you

1436
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: like on this undercard? I don't know if you could

1437
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: be as eloquent as that.

1438
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: Though Joce Edwards had a nice win.

1439
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure what it exactly means, but

1440
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: I've never been super high on her and that was

1441
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: a pretty It was a nice win.

1442
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: It didn't look like Chelsea Chandler went all in on

1443
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: like fitness. I wondered if if that was she did.

1444
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, you could even tell a couple of days out,

1445
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: like some of the media pictures that came out. I

1446
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, she's a pretty good shape, Jocely. That

1447
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: was look pretty good. I think Demon Black Sheeer is

1448
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: always someone that you should keep in mind. He he,

1449
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: I think he's got some real ability. Chris Gutierrez getting

1450
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 3: the win was good as well. But to me, we

1451
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, uh, oh, what was the one I wanted

1452
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: to mention.

1453
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: It's kind of about Cameron Simon getting sent to hell again, Luke.

1454
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: Oh yes, god dude, I mean he kind of came

1455
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: to the UFC with a ton of hype and it

1456
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: has not.

1457
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 2: Oh that that was a rough fall too. You know.

1458
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: I wish we could show it, but they would copyright

1459
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: this Shyeah, they just.

1460
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: They'll just take down the show because they're haters. But yeah,

1461
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 3: that's that's true.

1462
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I gotta mention this featherweight who I'd never

1463
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: heard of Long Island, Luke. Should I know about Timothy

1464
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 2: Kowamba because he would hit that flying knee on Roberto

1465
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: Romero and the crowd lost their damn mind.

1466
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 4: Well he was losing that fight pretty bad, dude. He

1467
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: lost the first round pretty clearly. Also, that's a Nixic guy.

1468
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: Luke.

1469
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: You probably know Timmy Kwamba, right, I don't.

1470
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm actually I got introduced to him through this event.

1471
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 3: I've not talked to coach about it, so, uh, you know,

1472
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 3: no surprise that an Eric Nixon train fighter is pretty good.

1473
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,479
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, we had bad ass right there. Fun card

1474
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: over the weekend. Now, Luke, we got to transition them

1475
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: to topic number three and it's some cards that were

1476
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: are to come. We did get a Dana White public

1477
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: social media announcement of new fights and they are exciting.

1478
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: We did not get the full updates even with Dana's

1479
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: press conference appearance on Saturday about when Jones aspenall athough

1480
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: he remains confident will happen or will Elia Islam, Dana

1481
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: didn't sound like Hew in that regard. Here's what he

1482
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: does know about, though, and this is awesome. UFC three

1483
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: eighteen in mid to late July in New Orleans will

1484
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: be the final fight for Dustin Poier in the home state,

1485
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: and it's Max Holloway in the trilogy for the dan

1486
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: BMF title, Like, yeah, this is the good shit right there.

1487
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: So look, this is the right fight to make. I

1488
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: can ask you if it's not, but I think you'd

1489
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: have to agree Central casting. Nobody loses here. We're gonna

1490
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: get tons of bousheeto on the way out, maybe even

1491
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: in the hospital room. But it'll all be under the

1492
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: name of love Luke. What a match. I can't wait

1493
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 2: for this.

1494
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 3: I saw some people bitching about this, and I gotta

1495
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: tell you, I don't really get that.

1496
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: I understand.

1497
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 3: Here's one argument that I saw, which was, Okay, if

1498
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: Pourier wins, he gets a title, but then he's gonna retire.

1499
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: So now what happens with the belt?

1500
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, if you're the UFC, that just

1501
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: gives you a chance to plug it in any other

1502
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 3: place you want it, you know what I mean.

1503
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: Like, it's a gimmick belt to begin with, obviously.

1504
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 3: But you know, if you want to send it into

1505
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: the welterweight to vision, if you want to send it into.

1506
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: The defend it, it's.

1507
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 3: Not like exactly exactly you can send it, send it,

1508
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 3: send it to fucking Flyway.

1509
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, who cares.

1510
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 3: Whatever you can do, whatever you want so that gives

1511
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 3: them some flexibility there also if Max wins not for nothing,

1512
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: like you know, first of all, like understand what it

1513
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 3: would mean for Max to beat Dustin?

1514
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: PORI.

1515
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: I don't mean the context. I'm saying, what is it

1516
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 3: gonna look like in an effort where Max gets his

1517
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 3: hand raised over Dustin?

1518
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: And the answer is BC war Wow, that's the answer.

1519
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: What isn't good for Luke?

1520
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: That's the answer.

1521
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 3: Like if you're like, what version of Max winning is like, oh,

1522
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 3: take down to the back and chokes them out, nah Son,

1523
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 3: That's not what's gonna happen. That's not what's gonna happen

1524
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: at all. It's gonna be It's gonna be an absolute

1525
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: blood and guts dog fight. So you know, to me,

1526
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: it's like that is a reason enough to do it.

1527
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 3: Putting back in Louisiana, smoothe King Center, which is you know,

1528
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: right downtown if you've never been to New Orleans is

1529
01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 3: right downtown.

1530
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: It's literally right next to the super Dome down there.

1531
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: Like the homecoming of it all we talk, we're just

1532
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, giving Smith like this big treatment.

1533
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 3: I hope that Poortier gets an amazing send off and

1534
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad the UFC is doing it, and I feel like, dude,

1535
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: like you just know this fight is gonna rule. I

1536
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 3: mean the chances of it being bad that they exist,

1537
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: but they seem bc for me, infintestically small. Now Long

1538
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 3: Island Luke is also mentioning okay, but Holloway has lost twice.

1539
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: You know, why should I really care about a third fight? PC?

1540
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: Can you think of a boxing doesn't have to be

1541
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 3: just a trilogy? Because I know, you know, for example,

1542
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: Pakiao Marquez fought more than that, But like, can you

1543
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 3: think of a fight that at least or a series

1544
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 3: of fights between two guys where one was down two

1545
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 3: oh and one of the third Hello, I would point

1546
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 3: out to people Rampage lost to vandal A twice and

1547
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 3: then it was only in the third fight where he

1548
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 3: punched his fucking lights out, So it can happen absolutely,

1549
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 3: But is there one on the boxing side that stands out?

1550
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the Pacquiao Marquez one is unique because there

1551
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: was a draw, and then you had two Pacquiao wins

1552
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: and controversial wins, both being controversial, and then you get

1553
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: the just insane one way knockout there with Marcuz I

1554
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: mean it has happened. I'm trying to think. I mean,

1555
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: certainly back in the day when you know, in like

1556
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: the sugar Ay Robinson era where you know they've got

1557
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: a bunch of famous rivalries there where guys fought five, six,

1558
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: seven times. But I don't have the relevant recent one

1559
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: that leaps out at me. It is a rare occurrence,

1560
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: although there's been times where I think it's been necessary,

1561
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: Like I thought we should have got way Lee versus

1562
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: Rose at one fifteen in a trilogy that would have

1563
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 2: followed those same rules.

1564
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 3: Also not for nothing, but like Max Holloway, dude, before

1565
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 3: the UFC three hundred, you know, I thought that people

1566
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 3: were being a little bit alarmist.

1567
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: But like most people, I.

1568
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 3: Was like, I don't know about this fight for Max.

1569
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: This is you know, we're talking about.

1570
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: A not just a guy in Gechee who's good, but

1571
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: like a known bruiser, right, and dude, everyone focuses on

1572
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: the knockout. Hello, Max beat his ass? Are we forgetting this?

1573
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: Like Max looked awesome in that fight, And to go

1574
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: back to forty five, which I did not think going

1575
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 3: forty five fifty five then back to forty five was

1576
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 3: gonna serve him very well against iliot Poria.

1577
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: Sure enough, it didn't.

1578
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: But the thing that I go back to is I've

1579
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: talked to Max's people a bunch of times. You know,

1580
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 3: they weren't really ready for fifty five when they thought

1581
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 3: Pooria the second time they just cut less weight.

1582
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: But now he's like building up, building up, building up,

1583
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: building up. Look at the punching.

1584
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 3: Power that he showed at fifty five, not just in

1585
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 3: the knockout, but like even before that, and the overall

1586
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: array of skills he's developed. I got news for everybody. Dude,

1587
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 3: Max Holloway. He's probably an underdog right now. He's a

1588
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: live dog in that fight, and if he gets a

1589
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 3: win over Poorier, it puts him right back to the

1590
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: front of that division. At fifty five, It's like, like,

1591
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 3: what the fuck is the problem with this fight? I mean,

1592
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: I know most people are happy, but just with the

1593
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 3: critics out there, it's time to it's time to it's

1594
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: time to wake up, little bit.

1595
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: It is it is, And Holloway just knocked out the

1596
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: guy in Gatchee who had just knocked out Poorier by headkake.

1597
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 2: When we were having the same questions about because Poorier

1598
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: still that guy, and look what he gave us against Mahachev.

1599
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Holloway is in certainly a better

1600
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: position to get his first win. Luke, don't forget Tito

1601
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: Ortiz finally got a win after two losses to Ladell

1602
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: and that's okay. That's gold rip, golden boy MMA on

1603
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: that one. No, dude, this rules. And I love, I

1604
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 2: mean I love when non title fights can be must

1605
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 2: see enough in their own cool ass way to be

1606
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: a pay per view main event. And it's you know,

1607
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: it's it's it's rare. It's like a McGregor Diaz. It's

1608
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: like a rampage for shot. You don't see it a lot,

1609
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,520
Speaker 2: but this is one of those, even with the ceremonial

1610
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: BMF title. It's just like sometimes you just gotta make

1611
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: fun action fights, just like sometimes you got to make

1612
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 2: potentially shitty action movies like The Expendables and just get

1613
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 2: your friends together and have like a old guy all

1614
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: star Game of Action Stars. This is what this is also, Luke,

1615
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: It's entertainment. People want to come in and cheer these

1616
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 2: guys into hell and then pull them right back out

1617
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: with their love. Let's go the score one for MMA,

1618
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: but look, what do you think about the Atlanta card

1619
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,879
Speaker 2: that also got announced that is going to have Joking

1620
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: Buckley against Kamara Usman in the main event, A huge

1621
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: test for Buckley against the name who's still got something

1622
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: even though he's on a losing streak and is coming

1623
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: off of that Chamaya have lost at middleweight.

1624
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 3: I think I don't think it's a huge sost I

1625
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 3: think Buckley's going to work them.

1626
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: They could be that. It could be that time, and

1627
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: we have questions about Usman's knees and and you know

1628
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: and all that. I mean, look, he he did come

1629
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 2: back in that third round against chremaiyav to save face.

1630
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: It was a division up. He's had a lot of

1631
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: time off, He's had injuries that he's taken care of.

1632
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: But it's Buckley's time to get a name like this,

1633
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: and with this division being you know, so clogged at

1634
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: the moment at the top, Hell yeah to that, and Luke,

1635
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: even though I'm kind of sad that Rose has this

1636
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: far down the rankings, Miranda Maverick, we've needed to see

1637
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: her against a legit name because she can go on

1638
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: these runs against secondary competition. How about Rosenambinus against Miranda

1639
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: Maverick at one twenty five in the co main event.

1640
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: Is this this is not a pay per view correct?

1641
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: A fight night?

1642
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: This is a fight night? Mm hmm.

1643
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 2: This is a badass one two punch, right.

1644
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: It's a great one two punch. First of all, I

1645
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: just want to say something Aboutjaquem Buckley.

1646
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: So here's he.

1647
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 3: He lost two in a row at eighty five, right,

1648
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 3: So he lost the decision to Nesserdine Imovov okay, and

1649
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: then Chris Curtis punched his lights out, which was actually

1650
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: kind of surprising at UFC two eighty two. But since

1651
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 3: then he hasn't lost. He beat Andre Fialio and then

1652
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 3: Alex Morno whatever.

1653
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: But he beat.

1654
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 3: Vicente Luke, who is you know, I think, not like

1655
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 3: old age wise, but certainly long in the tooth on miles.

1656
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: Then he beat nurseltan Rusa Boyev, which you know doesn't

1657
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 3: tell us much. Then he knocks out Wonder Boy, and

1658
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: then he stops Colby. My man is out here just

1659
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: cleaning up the elderly section of the welterweight division, just

1660
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: just absolutely thrashing them and pushing them out the door.

1661
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: Here he is with Kamar Usman. Kamar Usman is in.

1662
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 3: My mind, the second best welterweight of all time. He

1663
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 3: has a very decorated career. I was not impressed with

1664
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 3: what the tape shows in the third fight with Leon Edwards,

1665
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: not even close.

1666
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: And a lot.

1667
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: Of people keep talking about him as like some kind

1668
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 3: of big player in the welterweight division, and I understand

1669
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: he is by name, and certainly he is by historical achievement.

1670
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 3: I make no mistake about it. We're talking about one

1671
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: of the very best guys to ever do it at

1672
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 3: this weight class. But I think that time has long

1673
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 3: since passed. I don't think that the I don't. My

1674
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 3: view is people haven't really realized how far gone Usman

1675
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: is in terms of being relevant at the top of

1676
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 3: this division.

1677
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: And I think Buckley's going to show us well.

1678
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: Luke the you know, the media members who do the

1679
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: UFC rankings, I'm sure someone told them they had to.

1680
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 2: They've kept old Usman in the top five forever.

1681
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: He's observed for three right now, i'd.

1682
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: He has even one in that division in like four years.

1683
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Although he had one of the all time

1684
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 2: greatest runs he did when he was on top Thompson

1685
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: Pound King got movie roles like shout out to that guy.

1686
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: Is Is it over for Rose as a contender loose?

1687
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 10: No?

1688
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: I mean she's actually doing pretty well. I would say,

1689
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: if you lose, you know, she's been a little bit

1690
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 3: up and down, but more recently more up than down.

1691
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 7: Uh.

1692
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: But the problem is it's not It's not the end

1693
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: of the world if she loses in that sense, we see,

1694
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: But what it would signify is that the game has

1695
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 3: passed her by.

1696
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: You know.

1697
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: It's one thing to lose to Blanchefield, right, but Maverick

1698
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: is not the same kind of hammer. She's not the

1699
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 3: same kind of like like march you down type. She's

1700
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 3: a little bit more you know, operates on the outside

1701
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 3: or tries to mix up the game, you know, a

1702
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 3: little bit more of a round manager, I think, is

1703
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: the way I would look at it. That's not somebody

1704
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: that Nami Yunis would have lost to three four years ago. Yeah, right,

1705
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: so if you lost to that person now, it would

1706
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 3: kind of tell you where you're at. And I know

1707
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: what everyone's gonna say, Oh, Rose is only thirty two

1708
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 3: years old. Yeah, but like she got started real early.

1709
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 3: She's had an unusual career in terms of the timing

1710
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 3: of everything. And I'm not saying she's done. She might

1711
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: go in here and beat the brakes off of Maverick.

1712
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, bet she's back.

1713
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: But this is her whole career, highs and lows, constant bingo.

1714
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: So where are we? You know what I mean? That's

1715
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: what we're trying to figure out.

1716
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean she has been closer than she

1717
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: gets credit for and some of the losses at one

1718
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: twenty five, right, and she was injured in the Pharoh

1719
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 2: fight but still fought hard. The odds for Holloway Poorier

1720
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: according to DraftKings here from Nosita minus one oh five Holloway,

1721
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: but Pablyweih is minus one fifteen.

1722
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: So like, this is Nickham.

1723
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,799
Speaker 2: Just pick your seat and get fired up. Here's Poorier

1724
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: on the uh, the old Pat McAfee show about why Holloway.

1725
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're coming back to New Orleans. The UFC is

1726
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 7: coming back to New Orleans in July July nineteenth. It's

1727
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 7: gonna be my final fight. I'm gonna lay the gloves

1728
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 7: down in Louisiana, where at all arted for me. The

1729
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 7: whole journey started there July nineteenth, Me and Max Holloway

1730
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 7: are going to fight five rounds main event pay per

1731
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 7: view for his current BMF title. Yeah, there's not a

1732
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 7: better guy I can think to fight in my retirement fight.

1733
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 7: I was his first fight in the UFC back in

1734
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 7: twenty twelve, and he's gonna be my last fight in

1735
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 7: the UFC, So it's an honor. He's a legend, former champion,

1736
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 7: undisputed current BMF champion. So we're gonna put on another war.

1737
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, good shit, right there.

1738
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 3: So there's another clip where he talks about it. I

1739
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 3: may have mislabeled that one when I put it in

1740
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 3: the run DOWNBC.

1741
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: Sorry about that.

1742
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: If you got something else to play, play it.

1743
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 7: Is theyr excited man. This has been a long time

1744
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 7: in the works, getting Louisiana on board, get the UFC

1745
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 7: to even think about coming back to Louisiana.

1746
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: But it's happening.

1747
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: Super excited.

1748
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 7: There's nobody else I'd rather be standing across from when

1749
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 7: I lay the gloves down or when I go into

1750
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 7: my final fight.

1751
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 2: Max is a legend.

1752
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: I got so much respect for the guy.

1753
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 7: He's done it all right, and I was his first

1754
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 7: fight in the UFC and he's gonna be my last.

1755
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: Well, that was the wrong one too, I sent you

1756
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: the wrong one. I'm a fuck al.

1757
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: Right, Well we got to see Mike Boone again. Yeah.

1758
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 3: The point is is he had said that he thought

1759
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: there would be a couple of other names that were

1760
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 3: thrown his way, and he was kind of looking for it,

1761
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 3: and then UFC came to him with Max and they

1762
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 3: were like, we really want this one for you, and

1763
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 3: so he's like, okay, cool, we'll take it.

1764
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: But it wasn't exactly where his head was at.

1765
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 3: Nevertheless, Nevertheless, I I.

1766
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 1: Might be leaning Max.

1767
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1768
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's hard to know.

1769
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 3: Like after that knockout lost to Taporia, which like, again,

1770
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 3: nobody's ever done that. Dude, Pourier fought this fucking guy

1771
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 3: for twenty five minutes at fifty five and couldn't put

1772
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 3: his lights out, and then Taporia does it. So it's

1773
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 3: like huge question marks in for Max as well. This

1774
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 3: fight bangs.

1775
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one paid us to say that. We're just

1776
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 2: naturally passionate about these two gentlemen. Luke also quickly we've

1777
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 2: got uh. Oh. By the way, the Atlanta card with

1778
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: Ousmann and uh and new Manza is June fourteenth, so

1779
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 2: that's the week after UFC three sixteen and Jamal Hill

1780
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: and Klobeil round. You were supposed to be this Saturday

1781
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 2: in KC. But it's gonna be an Azerbaijan luke, which

1782
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: nobody was really calling for, at least in the airspace

1783
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 2: that I but they're obviously going to get paid a

1784
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: ton for a site fee. That's why it made it

1785
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: worth it. I do like when they go to new places.

1786
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: This should be interesting. How would you rate this Maine

1787
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: and Comaine with when you got Rafael Fasiva on this

1788
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: card as well? On a one scale?

1789
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's the main was is as you mentioned,

1790
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 3: it was supposed to be the one for KC, so

1791
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 3: Khalil Rautring and Jamal Hill which should be fun definitely,

1792
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 3: and then your your comain is rafaelas even Ignacio Bob Mundez.

1793
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 2: Oh and dude, don't forget about tigeer Ulan Beckoff at

1794
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 2: Flyway against Kyoji Horgucci. Okay, yep, okay, they.

1795
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: Got some bangers now again, I don't I don't. I

1796
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 3: don't know why they're in Baku before they're in Barcelona,

1797
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 3: but okay, whatever you know, sho.

1798
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, we know why.

1799
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's just kind of funny that way.

1800
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 3: But whatever the card itself. I love this fight for Eve,

1801
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 3: I love this fight for Nacho.

1802
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean this is good. Yeah, dude, good.

1803
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: Ship right here. I'm fired up and that main event

1804
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: is gonna be real fun to watch. Hell yeah it

1805
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: will be already. Yeah, here we go. H.

1806
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: I was gonna make a Nacho Vidal joke, but I'll

1807
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: skip it. H.

1808
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,519
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Speaker 2: Luke Let's talk about it Saturday's Chris Ubank Junior Connor

1836
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: Ben Clash in London. It got our attention. It is

1837
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: an old school family dual second generation stars and a

1838
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: tradition in Royalty of British boxing history of what their

1839
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: two fathers did. We knew we would care to a

1840
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 2: certain degree. Then there was the egging. Then there was

1841
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: the soap operas. Then there was this WWF angle with

1842
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: father and son having beef. I mean it was wild.

1843
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: And then the entrances were all the pageantry of the

1844
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: live band. This was some royal shit going on. And

1845
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: then these two guys after round and put on the

1846
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: damn Fight of the Year and it was a damn movie.

1847
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, this is reminds you of why you're into

1848
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 2: this game, of why you fell for this sport. There's

1849
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 2: so much to talk about what made this so special

1850
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 2: for you? In totality, here about what these two fighters

1851
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: did to really cut the line to be in your

1852
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: midyear Fight of the Year. As we get closer.

1853
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: There, dude, if I told you the beginning of the

1854
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: year that Chris Eubank you know, or Connor Ben like

1855
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily against each other, but like, imagine I had

1856
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: a separate conversation.

1857
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 3: Oh, by the end of the year, Connor Ben will

1858
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: have been in boxing's Fight of the You'd be like,

1859
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here. If I told you

1860
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 3: about about Chris you Bank, you'd be like, well, maybe

1861
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 3: like in a Canelo about or something like that.

1862
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: But you didn't have that.

1863
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 3: You didn't have an A list boxing star, you didn't

1864
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: have a major title, you didn't have really a lot

1865
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: of the things that you would think are like the

1866
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 3: guaranteurs of you know what make these kinds of accolades

1867
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 3: or incredible moments possible. And yet, dude, everything about this

1868
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 3: fight worked.

1869
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 1: The pre fight.

1870
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 3: Build up worked, the fans showed up, the storyline was there,

1871
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 3: the history was in both part of it, and then

1872
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 3: to a degree fulfilled in a way. There was drama,

1873
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: There was surprise, yeah, controversy. There was the surprise of

1874
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 3: his father, Chris you've been his father showing up incredible,

1875
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 3: which we had talked. We talked on Friday about you

1876
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 3: know where he said, you know, my son is a disgrace.

1877
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: Like I was like, and then when I was on

1878
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: when I saw that he was coming out, I was like,

1879
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, this fight.

1880
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: They keep ratcheting it up when you think that they

1881
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,879
Speaker 1: can't ratchet up. And then BC, then the fight happens,

1882
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: and these two guys, we talk about it all the time,

1883
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: leaving a piece of themselves in the ring that night,

1884
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: that is exactly what they did.

1885
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 3: It was so funny to me about this fight. To

1886
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: MEBC is you know, at first it was kind of

1887
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: you had Ben like lunging in kind of far away

1888
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 3: and and you by kind of trying to keep it

1889
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 3: at a distance.

1890
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: Dude. They both said fuck that.

1891
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 3: The last third of that fight and they were right

1892
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 3: on top of each other, destroying one another, landing big

1893
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 3: shot after big shot. This fight had ups, downs, twist turns.

1894
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: When you talk about a fight over delivering, I'm not

1895
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 3: sure if I can think of happened more recently that

1896
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 3: didn't involve a title, that didn't involved in a list

1897
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: star or to that point BC didn't involve a pound

1898
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 3: for pound guy.

1899
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: And you would not have known that.

1900
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: Watching that, you would have thought they were fighting for

1901
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 3: the most prestigious title. You would have thought that these

1902
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 3: guys were the biggest stars in the world, especially how

1903
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 3: they were greeted by their countrymen in this.

1904
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: And you would have thought.

1905
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, like you know, you couldn't nitpick

1906
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: the talent, but the way in which they rose to

1907
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 3: the occasion, it's the kind of thing you are more

1908
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 3: typically going to associate with a pound for pound level guy.

1909
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that the talent level is the same,

1910
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: but the spirited nature of their performance almost had to

1911
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 3: rub your eyes BC. I can scarcely think of a

1912
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 3: fight that had none of those kinds of ingredients, and

1913
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 3: yet the dish that was produced was absolutely magic. What

1914
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 3: a fight the I tipped my hat to the promoters

1915
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: and the fighters and everyone involved.

1916
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: Everything about this promotion worked.

1917
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm a shout out to Turkey Aloschkh. This

1918
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: was the first of his ring magazine series and we

1919
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: can say certain things all we want, we gotta be

1920
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: there and say when Turkey comes out and hits a

1921
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: damn home run, And that's what this card felt like.

1922
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 2: And that's a tribute to the crowd. It's obviously a

1923
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: tribute to the two families, not just the two fighters.

1924
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: I mean the two fathers, Nigel Ben and Chris you

1925
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: Banks Senior deciding to sit next to each other ringside

1926
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,799
Speaker 2: at the same table so we can get full on reactions.

1927
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 2: I mean, everything about it was theatrical, cinematic. So when

1928
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: I say it wasn't a fight, it was a movie.

1929
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be hip here with my with

1930
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: my gray hair. I'm trying to basically say that, like

1931
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 2: everything Luke said, not you know, not a title fight,

1932
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: yet yet it captured everyone's imagination. How many times do

1933
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 2: we get this wrapping paper and then the contents on

1934
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: the inside the fight is like, ah, the fight was

1935
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: so humm but man, that was a fun journey, right.

1936
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 2: How often does it equal the expectation is? How often

1937
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: does it do what would happen on Saturday where it

1938
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: just takes it to a whole new level. The reason

1939
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: why I say this was a movie is not just

1940
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: because it's got everything, but it's got this insane storyline

1941
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: of these second generation stars that were kind of just

1942
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,919
Speaker 2: gotten to certain points of yes fame and some acclaim

1943
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: in terms of what they accomplished in the ring, but

1944
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 2: they're kind of two underachievers that have been getting by

1945
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: on the dad's name, even though they are brashing their

1946
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: own way, and they certainly attempt to carry a big star.

1947
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: Neither had had a defining moment in the ring. You

1948
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: Bank was thirty five, and we thought like, okay, like

1949
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: he's in the Twilight Ben was twenty eight, but it

1950
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 2: was like, man, at one fifty four, he doesn't look

1951
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 2: like the same guy, and you got the drug test

1952
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: thing hanging over his head. Only he goes up to

1953
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: middleweight and he's the bigger puncher throughout, He's like rocking

1954
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: you bank and fighting with massive way of us. Just

1955
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 2: I mean, like the amount of like damn moments where

1956
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 2: Ben is in there swinging for the fences against a

1957
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: guy two weight divisions bigger than them, Like this doesn't

1958
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: even make sense that these guys would be perfect dance

1959
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: partners in there, But I think it makes sense only

1960
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 2: through their stories and how they kind of have been

1961
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: lost as pros. They've been underachievers and they found themselves

1962
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 2: in the boxing ring at the same time and because

1963
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:31,799
Speaker 2: of and through each other. That's some Sylvester Stallan bullshit,

1964
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 2: Like that's you know what I'm saying. That's what this

1965
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: fight was. And it was savage, and it was just

1966
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 2: perfectly sloppy enough at times when they were fading down

1967
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: the stretch, but you got to see the humanity that

1968
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 2: this non title fight was to redeem their entire career

1969
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 2: arcs and name so that they can be second generation stars,

1970
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 2: not just the kid of that guy. Ben didn't even win,

1971
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 2: and yet we're like, shit, if he fights with this

1972
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 2: spirit but smarter at one seven in the future, like

1973
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 2: he could be a real big time factor everybody won

1974
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. That almost never happens.

1975
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: I like, what else could you say about it? Luke?

1976
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,879
Speaker 2: It gave us everything we wanted. And then some Brent brookuffs,

1977
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: my colleague at CBS Sports was like, I'm not effing around.

1978
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 2: This might be the fight of the decades so far

1979
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 2: got five years into this, Like it gripped you on

1980
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 2: that gotty Ward type shit right where where the story,

1981
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: the character the feels that that was enough. Only this

1982
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 2: had everything but a title on it.

1983
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 3: I love the point that you raised, like it's hard

1984
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 3: for guys who've been under achievers to find ways to

1985
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 3: make history and in a way that the fans can

1986
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 3: care about and fans will remember.

1987
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: And they did it. They did it.

1988
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 3: That's that's the interesting part about the whole thing. B

1989
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 3: See you know again, no title, no pavricown people, blah blah,

1990
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: been over a million times, but they will now be

1991
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: remembered because of what they each did for one another

1992
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 3: and for this moment, and that will etch them into,

1993
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 3: at least for the British boxing sake, immortality. That is

1994
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 3: I mean, that is a special dude. That was a

1995
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 3: special moment. That whole thing was special. We had said

1996
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 3: we gave the fight all of the accolade are all

1997
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 3: we all the praise for like how well it was

1998
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 3: built up. But I didn't know how the fight was

1999
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 3: gonna go, you know. I plus U Bank hasn't even

2000
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,759
Speaker 3: spoken to the media. I went right to the hospital

2001
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 3: when the whole thing was over looked, terrible trying to

2002
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 3: cut the weight, and I was like, I don't know

2003
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 3: how this fight's gonna go. BC that twelfth round when

2004
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 3: he's got Ben on the ropes and he is going

2005
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,919
Speaker 3: to work on him, and Ben is like getting clipped

2006
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 3: with huge shots and he's still firing back, but you

2007
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 3: Bank is right on top of him. Man, just give

2008
01:32:58,600 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 3: it to I.

2009
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Was like, holy shit, I'll be Hodes. I didn't know

2010
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: they had it in him. I didn't know they had

2011
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: it in him.

2012
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 2: Isn't that the best quote? You Christian Bank Junior said it.

2013
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: He broke his job, by the way they would find out.

2014
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: Afterwards we went to the hospital. We did a quick

2015
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 2: interview in the ring, and he just kept saying I

2016
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 2: had no idea he had that in him. None of

2017
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 2: us did. None of us did. And he came in

2018
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: and he acted like the bigger man and he rightfully lost.

2019
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 2: It was eight to four on all three scorecards. You

2020
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 2: could have it a little bit closer. I mean there

2021
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 2: were but there was these beautiful ebbs and flows where

2022
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 2: they just controlled certain stretches of the fight, but inevitably,

2023
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: especially down the stretch. Dude, they got batshit crazy in there.

2024
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 2: You know. It wasn't like as savage, but held together

2025
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 2: as like Corrals Castillo. It was kind of its own thing.

2026
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: It was just this fight that had no business being

2027
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: this good. And dude, these are English sporting heroes moving forward,

2028
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 2: They're not the kids of them. They extended the story

2029
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 2: another chapter of the family rivalry and lineage here like

2030
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 2: this is some theatrical shit. Man, It's like George Groves

2031
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 2: losing the two fights to Carl Frotz but being a

2032
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: part of history in front of eighty K He's Sir

2033
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,480
Speaker 2: George forever. Right. These guys are gonna have that opportunity

2034
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 2: now to make a lot of money in a short

2035
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 2: period of time, whether it's against each other in a

2036
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 2: rematch that you know the fans are gonna be calling for.

2037
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: Even though there's just as lot of a cry it

2038
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 2: seems for people who want Ben to go back to

2039
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: one forty seven so that he doesn't have to leave

2040
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: it all on the line. But this was kind of

2041
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: the perfect fight. We just didn't see it as that

2042
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 2: for them to do that, for them to try to

2043
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 2: carve out defining moments, it wouldn't have made sense coming

2044
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 2: in to make that argument, Luke. But on the way out,

2045
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 2: now you see it, this was their time to make

2046
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 2: it all worth it. Like this was holy shit. We

2047
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 2: were witnesses to it, Like am I being am I

2048
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 2: too much? Look? Am I trying to tell you I

2049
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 2: love you after the first night?

2050
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to get pregnant. I'm not doing that.

2051
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear a rubber But the point I'm trying

2052
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 3: to make is I genuinely agree with you. Like, you know,

2053
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 3: one of those things where it's like you'll find out

2054
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 3: who the true five fans are watching that, which is

2055
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 3: to say everybody would like it, you know, like or

2056
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 3: not everybody, but you know, most people would watch that

2057
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 3: and find it entertaining. But five fans like UBC, five

2058
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 3: fans like you know, our audience, They're moved by it,

2059
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it speaks to something

2060
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 3: deep in their soul to see something like that, you

2061
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 3: don't get I mean.

2062
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: We watch a lot of fights. We watch yeah, you

2063
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We watch a lot of bullshit.

2064
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 3: But then when you see something like this, it's like,

2065
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 3: oh my fucking god, can this all.

2066
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Be like this? Please?

2067
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 3: How do we how do we get more of something so.

2068
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 1: So delightful to be a part of?

2069
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: Dude, the U bank moment where you bank Senior gets

2070
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 2: out of the car like we're fucking WWF here and

2071
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 2: unbelievable lost their shit, lost their damn mind when they

2072
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 2: saw that. Howbout you bank Senior in the ring? After

2073
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 2: what was the exact quote he said about Chris Junior's performance,

2074
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 2: He was like, it was like it's something legendary. It

2075
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 2: was so classy the way he said it, but it

2076
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: was so proud. It was like, I bet you there's

2077
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: times up to that moment and Seniors, you know, they've

2078
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 2: been fighting on and off for years. Seniors criticized his

2079
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: son many a time for not having the right direction

2080
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: in his career. This was the moment where Senior clapped

2081
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: and stood and you know, the rudy moment with a

2082
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 2: tear coming down the eye right the guy from Rock

2083
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 2: the groundskeeper. Right, he's clapped. I mean, it's that moment

2084
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 2: right there. And then they interviewed him in the ring

2085
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 2: and they hear like, Senior, we didn't know you were

2086
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 2: gonna be you know, following it. We didn't know you'd

2087
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 2: get his back and come here. And he was like, oh,

2088
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 2: always have my son's back, Russ Stafari and he just

2089
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 2: walks off. Dude, I mean, this is like, what the

2090
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: hell's going on? Here's the greatest thing ever.

2091
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what I mean like every once

2092
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 3: in a while, like every domino that's supposed to fall does,

2093
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 3: and it felt like this time all the dominoes hit.

2094
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Why do we have this comparison to show here, let's.

2095
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Show it to us. Look at this PC Oh wow,

2096
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 1: look at this? Are you kidding?

2097
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 2: That's beautiful? That's beautiful right there. Somebody needs to paint that. Wow.

2098
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: So that's you know, top left, Nigel ben This is

2099
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 2: the first match up between you being senior and Nigel Bennet.

2100
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 2: Came at middleweight. You bank defended his title and knocked

2101
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 2: out Nigel benn around nine and I actually actually never

2102
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 2: seen their rematch, but it came in ninety three and

2103
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 2: it was compared to this fight their kids had on Saturday.

2104
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 2: Apparently it's an all time classic. It was to unified

2105
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 2: titles at one sixty eight and was a split draw.

2106
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: So now I'm fired up to go back and catch

2107
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: that one that I missed. But damn man, I mean, look,

2108
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 2: we got to see it, right, We gotta see it again.

2109
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: We gotta see it.

2110
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 3: Can you can you imagine how big that's going to be.

2111
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 3: They did sixty five at Tottenham Hotspur. They're going to

2112
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 3: do more than that in the rematch.

2113
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 1: Believe that.

2114
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the right move for Ben,

2115
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 2: but here is Ben talking about you Bank.

2116
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 10: I looked at Chris say no, I said to go

2117
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,799
Speaker 10: by the next and I said, my I'm so happy

2118
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 10: you're here. I'm so happy you turn up. You know

2119
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 10: because outside of everything else, aside of all the noise

2120
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 10: and the promotion and the fire, your relationship with your

2121
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 10: dad never goes. That's always there, that's longstanding. That's where

2122
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 10: without boxing, you know what's boxing? You know what is it?

2123
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 10: You know because I picked the relationship with my dad

2124
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 10: overboxing any day a week, you know. So to see

2125
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 10: them two, if this is brought in together, God that's

2126
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 10: worth its weight in gold.

2127
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything. I'm not sure what happened there.

2128
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 2: Oh I heard the whole thing. It was. It was

2129
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 2: brilliant the way that Connor Ben was talking about You

2130
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 2: Bank Senior and coming back for a song, even though

2131
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 2: it seemed like it was a you know, it was

2132
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 2: a skit. They fooled everybody. Look, the quote from You

2133
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: Bank Senior was that was legendary behavior in the ring.

2134
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 2: Like that's the nicest thing you could ever say about it.

2135
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,799
Speaker 1: Son, right there, doesn't get much better, man really doesn't.

2136
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 2: Damn Ben wants revenge. We got one more clip to

2137
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 2: show here.

2138
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I wont the revenge, man. I won my revenge.

2139
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 10: It took me back. It did take me back in

2140
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 10: a good way and in a bad way. When I'm

2141
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 10: sitting there going, oh my gosh, this is unbelievable, and

2142
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 10: then in the same breath, it's just a lot of

2143
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 10: new first times for me today. First stadium fire, first

2144
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 10: time fighting back here in three three years, first fire

2145
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 10: one sixty. You know, I had you Bank hurt multiple times,

2146
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 10: three four times in there, noticeably, just couldn't get a finish,

2147
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 10: you know, So I'll make sure for next time that

2148
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 10: that finishes.

2149
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 3: There, Look he did he hadn't heard a couple of times, man,

2150
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 3: he I mean was it round nine was the big

2151
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 3: one right where he.

2152
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 2: Just really yeah, I did you heard that? Right?

2153
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 1: You heard the whole heard that?

2154
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 2: Okay? Sweet? Yeah? I mean I do kind of want

2155
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 2: to see in the short term future, if ben Ca

2156
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 2: go back and make forty seven, what does he look

2157
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if he can and he can be healthy,

2158
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: what does he look like with this renewed spirit?

2159
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 3: This is exactly my point, Like this whole thing has

2160
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, Connor ben I mean his mentions and Eddie

2161
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 3: Hearn's mentions. Anytime Eddie would bring up Connor on social media,

2162
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 3: we're just like a graveyard, you know, everybody killing them both.

2163
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying for not good reason, and I'm

2164
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 3: just saying that's what was happening, and maybe there'll be

2165
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 3: some of that going forward BC. But look at what

2166
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 3: these guys bought themselves in terms of opportunity, not just

2167
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 3: with a rematch, but if you're a U bank, dude,

2168
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 3: Canelo has to be looking at this and thinking, okay,

2169
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 3: I can make good you. So that they were already

2170
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 3: talking you banking Canela beforehand didn't work. I think now

2171
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 3: he's going to be much more part of the Canelo

2172
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 3: sweepstakes going forward.

2173
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: And if you're Ben, he.

2174
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 3: Goes to forty seven, Dude, forty seven has so many

2175
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 3: opponents for him that could all be red hot. A

2176
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 3: lot of them already have most of them nearly all

2177
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 3: of them have relationships with Turkey already, so you know,

2178
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,839
Speaker 3: making the fight should not be some kind of difficult endeavor.

2179
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: Dude. These guys bought them a lot of good will.

2180
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 2: Dude. Eddie has h he has been and he also

2181
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 2: has Boots, right, so Boots seems happy with Eddie, so

2182
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: there doesn't look like they're gonna break up. I don't know,

2183
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,719
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens there, but crazy stuff. I actually

2184
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 2: want both Ben and u Bank to go out and

2185
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 2: get their biggest fight possible, because I feel like they

2186
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: can meet up at any point, like this fight wasn't

2187
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 2: supposed to be this good, and look it was. I

2188
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 2: don't I don't think it matters if they both lose

2189
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 2: a fighter. You know this this is a timeless rivalry.

2190
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 2: I hope we at least get a second helping Luke

2191
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 2: topic number five quickly and that's all the time it needed.

2192
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: By the way, quickly at KSW over the weekend, the

2193
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Polish supercards that they roll out. How about this for

2194
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 2: a circus match that got us fired up? It was

2195
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 2: strong man Eddie Hall defeating mary use Pudjanowski, the forty

2196
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 2: eight year old legend, in thirty seconds. But I think

2197
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 2: the biggest highlight was he was literally man handling Pooja,

2198
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 2: throwing him around like a dwarf Luke Thomas and then

2199
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: hit him a million times in the back of the

2200
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: head to get your reaction to this piece of business.

2201
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 2: It was sloppy heaven in a lot of ways. It

2202
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 2: was also weird. Did we learn anything? I mean, is

2203
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 2: all legit now after this?

2204
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'll tell you one thing that

2205
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 3: I learned. I had no idea about this, but apparently

2206
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 3: I'm reading this. This was in the Daily Star in

2207
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 3: July of twenty thirteen. I've never heard of this. This

2208
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 3: is the headline about Eddie Hall quote I'm a racist,

2209
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 3: admits UK's strongest man.

2210
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: So I had no idea that he apparently.

2211
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know nothing in this world that I

2212
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 3: like BC is ever, it all just turns to shit.

2213
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 1: It really is amazing. I had all this time. I

2214
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, what a great story this guy's had.

2215
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 3: And then someone showed me this and I was like,

2216
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe maybe he's changed, and son, I have

2217
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 3: no idea. I'm just finding out about this. So that

2218
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 3: really kind of bummed me out. If I can be

2219
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:48,480
Speaker 3: totally honest with you, however.

2220
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 1: I mean, can you just imagine that's like, Oh, here's

2221
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 1: this thing that I really like.

2222
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 3: I say, oh, this guy admitted like to a major

2223
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 3: publication in the UK openly he.

2224
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 2: Is similar feelings. When the guitarist of Cannibal Corps had

2225
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 2: that brush with the law, Luke, if you know what

2226
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking.

2227
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: About, well, you know, he had mental problems. That's just

2228
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: you know, okay, okay, and and the band was like

2229
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 1: you need to go address that. They didn't keep fucking

2230
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 1: touring with him, you know.

2231
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't Dave Matthews do that to the violinist tune?

2232
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 3: Didn't mat Dave Matthews dump all the feces and the

2233
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 3: piss out of the bus. That's that's that's literally the

2234
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,719
Speaker 3: best thing that that d MB has ever done.

2235
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 2: But okay, you asked on this straight talk on this

2236
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 2: it was impressive.

2237
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: So what I would say is, I didn't realize this.

2238
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Did correct me if I'm wrong? On Friday Show, did

2239
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: we not say that?

2240
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 3: I thought Poujinowski was kind of up against it because

2241
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 3: he'd been off for two years.

2242
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 1: He's nearly fifty, you know, he's it's been.

2243
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 3: Better overall, but like you know, Hall's kind of searching.

2244
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that, So at least someone told me this.

2245
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 3: Apparently Pojinowski was a big favorite, a big betting favorite,

2246
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 3: which I found after after the fact, was very surprised by.

2247
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 3: I was not surprised that that Hall won. We should

2248
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 3: say a couple of things. One, the shots in the

2249
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 3: back of the head were a lot And can you

2250
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 3: imagine a man in that size just rabbit punching the

2251
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,480
Speaker 3: fucking stem.

2252
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: Of your brain, you know what I mean? Like, I

2253
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how.

2254
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 3: To assess that exactly whatever, But I can't say that

2255
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 3: time where he kind of did the throw by when

2256
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 3: he shucked Poujinowski by and Pujinowski went flying across the cage,

2257
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, here's.

2258
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: The point I wanted to make.

2259
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 3: If you're the PFL and I know our friends Jed

2260
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,759
Speaker 3: Michu and mikek have talked about this BC I echo

2261
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,799
Speaker 3: their sentiments. If you're the PFL and you're you know again,

2262
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 3: you don't mind we're doing business with the guy where

2263
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 3: the headline is I'm a racist admits UK's strongest man.

2264
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean, just unfucking believable. How my life just keeps

2265
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 3: coming back to this. But uh, if you don't mind that,

2266
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 3: and you're trying to find somebody who can fit the

2267
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:56,520
Speaker 3: bill for a big fight with Francis pc a KSW

2268
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,520
Speaker 3: PFL show.

2269
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think it's a larger question of

2270
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 2: should PFL be more willing to gimmick to get ahead,

2271
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: and it seems like they were. I mean, they signed

2272
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 2: Jake Paul and announced that he would fight in MMA,

2273
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 2: and now we feel like that'll probably never happen. And

2274
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 2: we also have only got one Francis fight so far,

2275
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 2: and some of these women's boxers didn't end up panning

2276
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 2: out in terms of like long term entertainment options that

2277
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 2: they signed or didn't fight at all. But this is

2278
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 2: also I mean, it worked for Belator when they were

2279
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 2: making ridiculous ratings on Spike in the Paramount Network during

2280
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 2: that stretch of Kimbo and old fights. You do have

2281
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: to do it as a life preserver. But are these

2282
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 2: the right people. I mean, there is this masculine eighties

2283
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 2: action movie response to me that's like, oh my god,

2284
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 2: that's the freakiest freak show fight between behemoths, like bring

2285
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: back the pride feels we used to have, Like let's

2286
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 2: just get sloppy and weird. Yeah, let's do it. Three

2287
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six pound Eddie Hall against Anganu.

2288
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 3: Do not watching it, but you have to do it

2289
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 3: in a limited way. If you if you make that

2290
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 3: the core of what you do, it erodes the product

2291
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 3: it does.

2292
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm like, hey, Umar Kaine

2293
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 2: against Eddie Hall. Had kind of watched that Luke, you know,

2294
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: so I don't know, but that's what it was, and

2295
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: it was like, he's not legit. But also that win

2296
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 2: is not nothing against forty eight year old.

2297
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: That's right, That's exactly right.

2298
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 3: It's like it's not I don't know exactly what it is,

2299
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 3: but it's definitely not nothing.

2300
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wants to get you know, risk getting

2301
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 2: his ass kicked and do some of these freak fights.

2302
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Francis would send him to the bottom of earth.

2303
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 3: Luke, you know this, which would be really difficult for him, apparently,

2304
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 3: you know, because I think it would. It would really

2305
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 3: break his heart, you know that, a guy like that.

2306
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could sanction that, could you?

2307
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 2: I guess you could.

2308
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 1: Uh, it depends on what jurisdiction you're in.

2309
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the jurisdiction is money. It'll get past. All right,

2310
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Look let's run through. But those are our five topics.

2311
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,959
Speaker 2: We don't have dms this week, Thank you for adjusting

2312
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 2: to my schedule needs we do have. Have you seen

2313
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 2: this shit? We're gonna close with it. It's harder that

2314
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 2: we do this remotely because some of the volume issues,

2315
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 2: but look, we're gonna make the best of it. Just

2316
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 2: roll the dice. This is the ship of the week.

2317
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 2: I hope you saw it. UFC KC this weekend, Luke Hua. Indeed,

2318
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 2: Chris Gutierra is in the hotel room looking out at

2319
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 2: the smokers down below and finds Carlos Protests smoking at

2320
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 2: dart on weigh in day. I think if we have

2321
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 2: that video, do you?

2322
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 10: It's some crazy shit.

2323
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm creeping on them, but gee, you're smoking, man?

2324
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 2: Look Look why are you smoking a cigarette. That is crazy. Look,

2325
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 2: that's a lot of devat shit right there.

2326
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 3: Also, like you know, I'm not trying to be like morbid,

2327
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,719
Speaker 3: but he was with those jackets. They were doing something

2328
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 3: with a guy who had like terminal cancer and he's

2329
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 3: sitting there just smoking cigarettes around him.

2330
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,640
Speaker 2: Like, look, a lot of them are racist, so don't

2331
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 2: we gotta move past? But no, I mean he was

2332
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 2: the guy who had the better stand with us, So like,

2333
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 2: is that not a thing? Like should we not talk

2334
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 2: about that anymore? Like I know that some people it

2335
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I mean I've known like successful distance runners

2336
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 2: that's that that smoked off bongs all the time.

2337
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 1: Right, I can't imagine it's good for you. But he

2338
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: seems to be okay about it, you know.

2339
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 2: All right, there we go. But that was some nark

2340
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:39,480
Speaker 2: ship from Grutieras.

2341
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think I think he's like the

2342
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 3: rest of us, like he's just blown away by it.

2343
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 1: You know.

2344
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 2: All right, it's baseball time of the week. Luke watched

2345
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 2: the pitcher closely here who gives up the long ball?

2346
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: But something must have been said between the two teams

2347
01:48:55,080 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 2: while they were running the bases. Watch this picture this mf.

2348
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Oh he waits till he rounds third.

2349
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 2: Boohlee, Jesus, you got jacked up right there. Damn okay,

2350
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 2: thank you.

2351
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Ro You know what he must have like, did he

2352
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: hit a dinger? And then he was he must have

2353
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: been talking ship running the bags, you know, yes, so

2354
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 1: then he got what what was the uh? Who was

2355
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: the pro wrestler who did the he would like dive

2356
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 1: into people? Uh Goldberg?

2357
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, he would spear that spear.

2358
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 3: That's it. I remember that from high school. He would

2359
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 3: spear people. Yeah, got Speed.

2360
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Speared spear too, but not like Steiner's kid. Look you

2361
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 2: finally you don't know anything about this. This uh this,

2362
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 2: you don't know anything I'm talking about right, Rick Steiner's kid,

2363
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 2: bron Brecker. What's the guy's name?

2364
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: Fucking idea?

2365
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm missing it at the moment, bron Breaker,

2366
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 2: He's I've seen his spears. Look he he folded some guy.

2367
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: I I show Speed in half. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

2368
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: he was. That was a lavish turkey uh like video

2369
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 2: montage with ks I. It was like a like that

2370
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 2: was kind of crazy. Right, Yeah, let's keep it going. Look,

2371
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,560
Speaker 2: you know the transitioning from BJJ to m m A.

2372
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 2: You really got to work on striking technique to make

2373
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 2: that gap.

2374
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 1: Do you check this out.

2375
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: I've been working on my striking and I'm getting pretty good.

2376
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 8: High.

2377
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 5: Mix it up, mix it up?

2378
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,719
Speaker 1: But what was that? I'm shadow boxing?

2379
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

2380
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 2: Look, you know you've been in the gym, so you know, well,

2381
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 2: you got to mix it up.

2382
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just got to go for unorthodox techniques.

2383
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 2: All right, Todd for your fails of the week. Let's

2384
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 2: go to the treadmill area. Oh no, oh god, he's

2385
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 2: gonna help. Oh boy, here, what fucking three stoo sketch

2386
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 2: is this? That's a Looney Tunes Jim Luke no judgment zone. Okay,

2387
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 2: let's go to the wedding dance floor. You know this gimmick,

2388
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 2: Luke when they announce you in on the wedding party

2389
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 2: and you do like a like a scheduled dance.

2390
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is for white trash. But that's okay.

2391
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 2: But you gotta, you know, you gotta. If you've had

2392
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 2: a few pops in the limo, you gotta be careful,

2393
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 2: all right.

2394
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, everyone wants to be the dance floor hero.

2395
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, Watch this you the god here her with

2396
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:40,600
Speaker 2: the ghetto blaster. Luke, damn, oh Jesus, dude.

2397
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,640
Speaker 3: Dude, listen to me. Everyone, stop trying to be the

2398
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 3: hero at someone else's wedding. No one fucking likes you,

2399
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 3: and no one's there for you.

2400
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 1: Stop it.

2401
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 2: Wow, you're actually right on that. Let's hit the bike ramp,

2402
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 2: I think bike trail.

2403
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:54,799
Speaker 1: Okay?

2404
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 2: What?

2405
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 1: Okay?

2406
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

2407
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 5: Wow?

2408
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 1: Do we did you pick count.

2409
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 3: People that just don't have control of their equilibrium at all?

2410
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 2: For this?

2411
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: Okay?

2412
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 2: Indeed, let's go to the high jump pit. Luke. You

2413
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 2: know I spend a lot of times as a track

2414
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 2: and field dad watching stuff like this.

2415
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 3: All right, well, he's the worst guy I've ever seen

2416
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: in my life.

2417
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 2: He will never walk again, unfortunately, you know what, and

2418
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 2: nothing of value was lost for this gentleman, he looke.

2419
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 2: Don't they say that one man's trash is another man's treasure.

2420
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I've heard that.

2421
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, some people put you know, their mattress on the

2422
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 2: side of the road, but there might be some miles

2423
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 2: left in that mat tristy.

2424
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: You might want, Okay, Okay. I don't know whether an

2425
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: extraordinary murder or shit storm took place also true, Store,

2426
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't have I've ever told you this BC.

2427
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 3: When I was in college, we were I mean I

2428
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 3: was poor, you know, I had no money. Sure, there

2429
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 3: was one time I dropped off a buddy of mine

2430
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 3: at his apartment and in the apartment complex and it

2431
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 3: was like when he's you know, like col to sac

2432
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 3: joints where you come back up up and at the

2433
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 3: end of it, someone had dumped their couch.

2434
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I went and picked up old old.

2435
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 3: Betty, brought her, brought her back to the apartment, and

2436
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 3: we put her the We put the furniture here. We

2437
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 3: had to fabreeze that thing. Oh yeah, you know for

2438
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 3: like weeks to get that thing clean.

2439
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 1: But we kept it.

2440
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you might get a rash just you know,

2441
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 2: automatically from the transfer of that. That's some gross shit.

2442
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 2: Uh wow, Luke, that was an incredible mattress. Luke, you

2443
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 2: might have a future in politics, after all. Let's listen

2444
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 2: in from AOC And this isn't just about Republicans.

2445
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: We need a democratic party that farts fights harder.

2446
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 2: For us too.

2447
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 1: I can be that one that SARTs harder.

2448
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you know, listen, if they're like, we need

2449
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:50,839
Speaker 3: you to fart harder.

2450
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you came to the right place.

2451
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 2: Here you go, Luke. Let's go to the mosh pit.

2452
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 2: We know you love this. Let's get some slow emotion.

2453
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 2: Look at some of Wow, there's.

2454
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 3: A lot of people that do a lot of standing

2455
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 3: around in the mosh pit and they get chewed up.

2456
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 2: You know, I really don't love the mashpit set up, Luke.

2457
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I've been in some concerts where

2458
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 2: it's been physical and rowdy, but I'm not about this life.

2459
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,759
Speaker 2: I mean, what what are you doing here? What's happening?

2460
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 1: Did I not Oh they're donkey kicking. Oh they're donkey kicking.

2461
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: Did I not tell you about?

2462
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 3: I think it was like one or two corpse shows

2463
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 3: ago where I saw the girl mashing in there, fist

2464
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 3: fighting everybody.

2465
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 2: No, that's wild, dude.

2466
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 3: She was in there fighting for her life, and I

2467
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 3: was hopeful that she My wife pointed her out. She

2468
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 3: was like, dude, look at this, and we saw yeah.

2469
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 3: I mean these you know, these are just some whites

2470
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 3: that are.

2471
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: Just all right.

2472
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm done with this.

2473
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 5: It's just yeah.

2474
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still it's still better than the the

2475
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 3: Viking rowing losers who deserve to be cattle prodded and

2476
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 3: deported to El Salvador for fucking doing one of these

2477
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 3: on the floor of the Metal show.

2478
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 2: Indeed, uh, those the rowboaters. Look, let's check in on

2479
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 2: this Airbnb. We get a little hot, we get a

2480
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 2: little tour of the place.

2481
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 4: A room stuffy into the jungle, uf coubre looking at jungle.

2482
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 7: The thing, end of the.

2483
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he was in the think of it, Luke, he.

2484
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 3: Was, you know, he was doing one of these numbers

2485
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 3: like I do when I'm on the train, only because

2486
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,839
Speaker 3: I'm trying to hold onto something, you know what I mean.

2487
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 2: Luke, I got on the wrong train last week and

2488
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: ended up in Newark, Penn. I mean, I deserve that karma.

2489
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 3: Damn it, You're an idiot.

2490
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 2: It just it was it was on this side, and

2491
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: I went to this side because the guy that worked

2492
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 2: there gave me like a confusing answer to my question

2493
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,919
Speaker 2: and I kind of wasn't paying attention. Oh my god. Anyway,

2494
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 2: we got to survive those moments. Hey, look, do you

2495
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: hear about Mike. Let's look at this.

2496
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let he who's without sin cast the

2497
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 1: first stone, you understand.

2498
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hey, Luke, it's testes time. Let's go to

2499
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 2: the NYC Subway. Check out that man's satchel.

2500
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 1: Is that is that long island Luke's dad.

2501
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 2: That would be so unbranded. If mister Nosina was rocking

2502
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 2: that backpack, that would be unbelievable. Wow, Okay, let's keep

2503
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 2: the nut influence rolling here. Luke. You know those zin packets, Yeah,

2504
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 2: they don't. They're not just for your mouth. Watch this, h.

2505
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2506
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, we may have left that video on

2507
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 2: too long.

2508
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't know if I've ever

2509
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 3: said this before, but until this video, I'm like, Wow,

2510
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm really glad I'm circumcised.

2511
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: This is uh, that was terrible.

2512
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Let's watch your nuts at the skateboard park too, Luke.

2513
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh you fucking.

2514
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 2: Just He's not he's not fathering children, Luke, it's not

2515
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

2516
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 1: It's it's for the best. It's for the best.

2517
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 2: But Luke, you know some people have a harder scrow,

2518
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 2: apparently through training, Shure.

2519
01:57:46,800 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 3: Fuck this amazing that we were able to get a

2520
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 3: video of my personal twenty twenty four.

2521
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

2522
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the wedding jump rope. Luke,

2523
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 2: you ever see people. You know that the at the

2524
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 2: dance where they get after it a little too hard.

2525
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 1: Now, gonna get in there.

2526
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh he turned her into her stepping stool, Luke.

2527
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 1: Literally he was smashing her like grapes out of vineyard.

2528
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2529
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god? All right, well, let's play musical chairs,

2530
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 2: but don't play musical chairs with Bigsby, Luke. Watch this alright?

2531
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 3: Like, okay, oh so.

2532
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: Some yokas o the ship. Wow, that was so good.

2533
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 1: Wow she knockoff to walk off, Luke.

2534
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 2: We love political memes on the show. I think let's

2535
01:58:50,600 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 2: check out this one. All right, So I don't know

2536
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 2: if that's pretty good? Yeah, okay, here we go. You

2537
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 2: hear about the Turkish soccer fan, Luke, watch this.

2538
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: They are, dude, The Turks are different about this ship.

2539
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna throw this.

2540
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Look at this, dude.

2541
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 3: I've told the story a million times. I was in

2542
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 3: Istanbul when Fenerbaci played. Was it bashiktas or gallatus awai?

2543
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 2: God?

2544
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 3: Now I can't even remember that part anymore. It didn't matter.

2545
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 3: It was the rivals. I saw motherfucker chasing another one

2546
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 3: with a donor kebab sword bro a donor Kebob Sword, that's.

2547
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 2: Going third world on that ass. Holy crap, Luke, you

2548
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 2: might love this one too. Let's a tribute.

2549
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 7: Ah Ah, holie, holie.

2550
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 2: It's certainly not not a good taste, certainly not in

2551
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:50,520
Speaker 2: good taste.

2552
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Luke. We're gonna get fired. We're gonna get fired.

2553
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 2: All right. Let's see. Let's compare a basketball form in

2554
01:59:57,160 --> 02:00:00,959
Speaker 2: the evolution of it through the years, the bird.

2555
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 1: Jordans.

2556
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's it's relatable, you know you can certainly? Yeah,

2557
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 2: got that? All right, we got one more for you, Luke.

2558
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna get fired.

2559
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 2: Well, let's go out in a blaze of glory. Here

2560
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 2: we go. Who wants a fa?

2561
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 1: What was that?

2562
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 2: I don't think we could play it a second time,

2563
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 2: But that's the ship of the week, Luke.

2564
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 1: That that is actually one of your spicier batches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I had, I had parameters I had to

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Speaker 2: work with. I couldn't run ones with volume.

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Speaker 1: That was a That was a spicy batch. I give

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Speaker 1: that one an A.

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Speaker 2: That's a spy wow, just just just the way it hits.

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Speaker 1: The A plus A plus if we lose our job.

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Speaker 2: Good point, good point, all right, thank you? Folks for

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Speaker 2: staying with us. Thank you so much. Thank you guys

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Speaker 2: for moving the time of this show to get my schedule.

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Speaker 2: Take care of Long Island. Luke, thank you for your

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Speaker 2: service as well. What should you say to the people here?

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Speaker 4: Something It's Monday at eleven ten am right now, or sorry,

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Speaker 4: one ten pm right now, so you know, my bet

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Speaker 4: breakdown is probably coming out in a few hours.

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Speaker 2: Tune into. Yeah, head on over to the main card minute.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about. Maybe some big b rips later,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe. All right? Also, like the show, please you

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Speaker 2: can follow us on social media. Subscribe to what we

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Speaker 2: got going on. Let's take it to the next level. Okay,

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Speaker 2: follow our YouTube, kickoff channel, spinoff channels as well. Right there,

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, Happy birthday to the Tukes, much love to

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Speaker 2: the family. Anything else you want to bestow upon these people.

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Speaker 1: No, glad you guys can tune in. Thank you so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be in studio Friday.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go big weekend of boxing as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's check it out for everyone. We love you. Take

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Speaker 2: care of yourselves, out of here.