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Speaker 1: And welcome to the latest edition of Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: live here on Giants dot com. As we are going

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Speaker 1: to be recapping the first joint practice between the Lions

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Speaker 1: and the Giants in Motown. We're gonna get to your

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Speaker 1: phone calls at two zero one three hashtag Giants Chat

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, he has pauled the Tino on Lance Meadow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for spending part of your Tuesday with us.

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Speaker 1: As the first day of practice between both of these

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Speaker 1: teams is in the books, members of the Giants are

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Speaker 1: talking to the media right now, so we'll keep your

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Speaker 1: posting on that front. I think the big news that

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Speaker 1: came out of yesterday's practice before we get into what

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Speaker 1: transpired today, Paul was sa Kwan Barkley tweaked his hamstring

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Speaker 1: after the practice, correct clarified that it was a mild

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Speaker 1: strain and that they were gonna be smart moving forward. Now.

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Speaker 1: He was briefly on the practice field today, did some

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Speaker 1: individual work and then moved to work with the training staff.

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Speaker 1: So it remains to be seen whether or not they're

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Speaker 1: actually gonna throw him out there for the second preseason game.

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised that they take it very

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Speaker 1: easy and maybe he stays on the sidelines in that contest. Well,

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Speaker 1: according to Paul Schwartz of The New York Post, who

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Speaker 1: is out there and and one of the better reporters

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Speaker 1: on the beat um, he said that Shermer has mentioned

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Speaker 1: Barkley if he is ready to play Friday, he will,

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Speaker 1: but I mean that statement is extremely vague, of course,

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Speaker 1: because then obviously if he's not ready, he won't and

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Speaker 1: so the medical staff will determine exactly what se Kwan

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Speaker 1: Barkley does, not just in Friday's game, but what he

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Speaker 1: does the rest of the week. Same thing with Odell Beckham,

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Speaker 1: who did not play in the first preseason game, and

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Speaker 1: Pat Shermer said, they're taking it very slowly, they're taking

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Speaker 1: it easy. But he did take part in a lot

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Speaker 1: of one on one drills with the Lions defensive backs,

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Speaker 1: and he was matched up a lot with Darius Slate today,

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Speaker 1: who is arguably the best Lions corner and made a

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Speaker 1: number of plays on him. So, you know, every time

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Speaker 1: we see Odell Beckham get tested by another individual, tested

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Speaker 1: by somebody practice, it's almost like you put another checkmark there.

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Speaker 1: Paul in monitoring his progress in rehabbing from this ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, Lands, because you know, Odell

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Speaker 1: admitted when he had his pressure with us about a

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Speaker 1: week or so ago, that it had only been in

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Speaker 1: the last month when he truly started to feel close

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Speaker 1: to a He even said he wasn't there yet, but

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Speaker 1: he was really close. He had said that as recently

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Speaker 1: as two months ago. So let me make something clear.

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Speaker 1: As recently as two months ago, Beckham said that he

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Speaker 1: felt something in his ankle when he was cutting. Now,

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Speaker 1: at that point he was posting all kinds of videos

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Speaker 1: online working out and working out, doing all kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: We were getting messages from people on Twitter saying, look,

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Speaker 1: Odell looks great. Oh he's he's he's fine, he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: What we now know is that those videos, in part,

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Speaker 1: were an illusion, because he himself said as recently as

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Speaker 1: two months ago he still felt it in his ankle

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't right. So despite whatever he was showing

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Speaker 1: us on video, he was not feeling as good as

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Speaker 1: he looked. And I think that is significant because it

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Speaker 1: tells you that the Giants were right to hold him

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Speaker 1: back in minicamp and limit him, that they were right

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Speaker 1: to hold him back as training camp started a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was out there doing things in a rotation.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't out there getting you know, Mega Loode. And

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Speaker 1: it tells me that Shermer was being prudent the entire

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Speaker 1: time and will continue to be prudent during the course

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Speaker 1: of the preseason. And he has stressed the coach that

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Speaker 1: to get ready for Jacksonville. Coaches made it very clear

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Speaker 1: the endgame is jackson and it should be dawn straight.

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Speaker 1: It should be so. If the medics and Schumer believe

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Speaker 1: that Beckham should not play even one preseason snap, then

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Speaker 1: he won't. And contract talks aside. That has nothing to

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Speaker 1: as Odell Beckham wants to ensure his future with a

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Speaker 1: nice new deal, the Giants don't want Beckham going out

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Speaker 1: there and getting hurt. Trust me, they will probably be

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Speaker 1: more upset if Beckham gets hurt in the preseason game

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Speaker 1: Keem Nicks the year that he heard himself in a

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Speaker 1: spring workout. If you rerecalled, I think it was a

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Speaker 1: only reason why I bring that up is that's a

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Speaker 1: the need to maybe just get him out there for

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Speaker 1: I could see them potentially giving him a handful of

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Speaker 1: not put him in harm's way. He might just want

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Speaker 1: out of bounds. I don't think if he does anything

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Speaker 1: involved in any traffic. They're gonna keep him clean if

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Speaker 1: he even takes a snap. That's my opinion. I also

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Speaker 1: a positive sign for him to even be taking part

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Speaker 1: that's a significant step because you're still getting good productive

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Speaker 1: get into a preseason Yes, I definitely vale that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Darius Slay is probably not taking it easy on him. No,

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Speaker 1: not at all, because obviously he's looking to press himself

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Speaker 1: and get better. And the Lions, that think overall have

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Speaker 1: a really good secretary too, Glover Quinn is one of

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Speaker 1: like to see the video on the slag Beckham drills,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen O'Dell look like O'Dell here against guys

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Speaker 1: he knows. I don't know that O'Dell is still O'Dell

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Speaker 1: until I see him do it against somebody who doesn't

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Speaker 1: know him. That's when I'll truly know if he's got

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Speaker 1: the moves, the acceleration, the speed, the quickness, the jukes.

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Speaker 1: He's gotta go against somebody who he doesn't know in

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Speaker 1: go against the lines. I really do. I'm with you there.

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Speaker 1: Two zero five one three is the telephone number hashtag

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning into Tuesday's edition A Big Blue Kickoff Live. So,

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Speaker 1: in terms of the schedule, today was the first joint practice.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have another one tomorrow. Then Thursday they're also

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Speaker 1: gonna have a joint practice. Patch yourmer said, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: go about two thirds quickness wise, and then Friday night

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Speaker 1: they will have the game in Detroit. Let's open up

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Speaker 1: the phone lines, get your thoughts on a variety of subjects,

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Speaker 1: including the upcoming preseason game. We start things off with

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Speaker 1: Duke in Queen's Duke. What's happening you guys, what's up?

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Speaker 1: It's been a while either of you with um. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I have a few thoughts and just give me a

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Speaker 1: little town there um first thought, Uh, David swab Man,

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Speaker 1: I I didn't get to call before the preseason game,

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Speaker 1: and then watching the preseason games, you know, there's two

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Speaker 1: things I just I just don't like. One, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: look like he's having fun, like that that much fun.

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Speaker 1: He just it just seems like he's under a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure. When there is no pressure, just just go

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Speaker 1: out and have fun. That's one. And Two, like the

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Speaker 1: plays that he makes when he's under pressure, like when

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Speaker 1: he's getting rushed, it's just it's always all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Is it's never, he's never, he's He's not good at

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Speaker 1: saving a place, and that's what you need when you

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Speaker 1: look at all these past few Super Bowls winning teams,

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Speaker 1: Carson Wins, Tom Brady, Russell, Russell Wilson, they all can

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Speaker 1: save a play and we need that, all right. So

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Speaker 1: I honestly would love for the Giants to go somewhere

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Speaker 1: else and get a quarterback. I don't think I don't

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Speaker 1: get why US fans think that the new quarterback has

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Speaker 1: to be on his team. No, he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be on his team. And I've been looking at some

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Speaker 1: of the future projects. They don't look that great. So

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Speaker 1: let's go and get some of these guys that are

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Speaker 1: second string that can that should be starting, like Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 1: like Teddy Bridgewater. How about we going to get one

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Speaker 1: you gotta give up assets for that, and I think, obviously, well,

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Speaker 1: I disagree with you there. I think Tyrod Taylor has value,

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Speaker 1: and I think so does Teddy Bridgewater. I guarantee you,

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Speaker 1: with the way the Jets quarterbacks are playing, if those

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Speaker 1: guys continue to flourish in the preseason, they could very

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Speaker 1: well ship one of those out of town. And there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a team that needs a starting quarterback that

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Speaker 1: will probably be willing to give up some assets in

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Speaker 1: not saying that both of them are gonna be traded,

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Speaker 1: but I think you're undervaluing the importance of a starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you're arguing they should maybe work on who's behind the starter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's p one this season years yeah,

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Speaker 1: but well, But but my point is, Duke, My point

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Speaker 1: and he could very well be a free agent where

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Speaker 1: you could just sign him out right and you don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about trading him. All right, Um, next point. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean I always fashed eliab along here, but I

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Speaker 1: just want the guy to do because, um, that preseason

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Speaker 1: stuff that happened, that's nothing, you know, I really, I

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Speaker 1: want him to be like he doesn't. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: a huge stretch to say that he's not, but it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like it's to me. He's another guy

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Speaker 1: that just seems like he's under pressure. He has allowed

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Speaker 1: to prove and I'm not one Like I'll played sports

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Speaker 1: most of my life, man, I was never under pressure.

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Speaker 1: It's always about having fun. I don't care what paper

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Speaker 1: I get what money, what contract anything? I just want

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Speaker 1: to have fun. So I just another guy that just

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Speaker 1: seems like he's under pressure. Is that? And then uh,

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Speaker 1: the old line looked great, looks great, Eric Flouts looked good.

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Speaker 1: Patrick om a smart dude that's next to him. A

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Speaker 1: more speed. He's the guy who's gonna be the last

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Speaker 1: line of defense a lot of times, especially in zone coverage.

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Speaker 1: He's the center fielder. Your strong safety is the guy

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Speaker 1: who not only is going to go up against man

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Speaker 1: to man coverage against a tight end, he's also gonna

432
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Speaker 1: play pseudo linebacker. He's gonna play in the box a lot.

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Speaker 1: He'll blitz more. Um. You know, he's more of an

434
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Speaker 1: impact player against the run. He's usually bulkier, more physical,

435
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Speaker 1: bigger frame, stronger, um, better hitter, better tackler. Although your

436
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Speaker 1: free safety has got to be able to tackle to

437
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Speaker 1: let's not kid ourselves. He may be the only guy

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Speaker 1: in the open field. Yeah. Um, Typically that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: But again with Betcher, he's just so involved in motion

440
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Speaker 1: and pre snaps, schemes and trickery that, uh, you know,

441
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Speaker 1: you're gonna see Landon Collins all over the place. He

442
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Speaker 1: doesn't really have a true position. Landon Collins is a

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Speaker 1: defensive rover if nothing else. Okay, Hey, thanks guys, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. That's all I got. I appreciate the phone call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: James Betcher's moved to his safeties around every which way.

446
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Speaker 1: If you go back to Arizona. And also a guy

447
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Speaker 1: named Daon Buchanan, who wasn't safety, was then eventually moved

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Speaker 1: to lineback. And that doesn't mean that Landon Collins who

449
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Speaker 1: is gonna make the same move. But he has been

450
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Speaker 1: known for tweaking his personnel. That's why I bring that up.

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Speaker 1: Think of Troy Paulamalo, who was when he was with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, he was simply called safety. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: call him a free safety or a strong safety. They

454
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Speaker 1: just called him a safety because he did everything player.

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Speaker 1: So that's a good example. Let's say back to the

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Speaker 1: phone lines. Dave is in Hartford. Dave, what's happening? Hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you guys? Dave from Cranford. How you been

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Speaker 1: Dave from Cranford. Hi, welcome board, Davis. No, no worries.

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Speaker 1: We put you at Hartford. You're you're a guy that travels,

460
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Speaker 1: just like Troy Palamalu. So Hey, I wanted to ask, um,

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Speaker 1: um if you guys had seen it was something we

462
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Speaker 1: had talked about very briefly, but um what they did

463
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Speaker 1: for the first game, and who was up in the

464
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Speaker 1: box and who was who was on the sideline? I no, Paul,

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Speaker 1: you had actually I think you had asked that during

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Speaker 1: one of your press conferences. But I was wondering who,

467
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Speaker 1: you know, who they put up, you know, from an

468
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Speaker 1: offensive standpoint, who was up in the box and who

469
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Speaker 1: was on the sideline during the game. Mike schul was

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Speaker 1: on the bench. Okay, yeah, Mike schill was on the

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Speaker 1: bedg because he had been on the bench in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Coach Sherber said he like the way that worked because

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Speaker 1: not only is Mike more comfortable on the bench, but

474
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Speaker 1: it also allows Shula then to spend personal time with

475
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and he would rather then have face to

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Speaker 1: face than being on the phone because he's also the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. In addition to okay, okay, good, good, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know it's funny. I think the thing I took

479
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Speaker 1: away from the Cleveland game more than anything, because I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to play into particularly on the defensive side,

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Speaker 1: was was stopping the run. And I think if you

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Speaker 1: look at it from Thatcher's history, he's always coached a

483
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Speaker 1: top ten defense against the runs, not not by mistake,

484
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Speaker 1: and I think that plays into the big question when

485
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Speaker 1: we think about the defense in terms of how they're

486
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Speaker 1: going to get pressure on the quarterback, and that the

487
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Speaker 1: first thing you really want to do is is where

488
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Speaker 1: where all of his schemes and all of his exotic

489
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Speaker 1: blitz is really work is when they're in you know,

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Speaker 1: second and third and long and and obviously to do that,

491
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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta stop the run on first and

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Speaker 1: second down, which I think obviously they showed that they did,

493
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Speaker 1: and I think the way the defense is obviously set up,

494
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Speaker 1: that's going to be their priority. And and um, I

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Speaker 1: think when you think about the teams we're gonna play,

496
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Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys twice, Um, you know a number

497
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Speaker 1: of other teams that even the Yeah, yeah, I think

498
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Speaker 1: that's a great point. Listen, you go back to last season, Dave.

499
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Speaker 1: I mean it's well documented Giants could not stop the

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Speaker 1: run and as a result, teams had field days on

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Speaker 1: third down because very few teams are facing third and longs.

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Speaker 1: They were facing third and manageable. So I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest takeaways. Now, keep in

504
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Speaker 1: mind the first team defense didn't play for the majority

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Speaker 1: of the game, but the unit overall, which I think

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Speaker 1: says a lot about the depth. Everybody did a good

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Speaker 1: job pitching in and stopping the wrong Cleveland round the

508
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Speaker 1: ball thirty three times they picked up fifty yards. That's

509
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Speaker 1: one and a half yards per carry. I think the

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Speaker 1: longest run of the night was seven correct, that was

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Speaker 1: by Matthew Days Nick Chubb, who was there, one of

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Speaker 1: their top rookies, fifteen concras for eleven yards shut down totally. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought Robert Thomas looked like Snacks Harrison. He was

514
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Speaker 1: that good the other night. Very strong game to the

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Speaker 1: defensive and I think a J. Francis, uh you know,

516
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Speaker 1: also has has flashed and looked well. I think they

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Speaker 1: actually have which is something that gentleman wanted. I actually

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Speaker 1: think with Kerry Winn, Thomas Francis, you know, a couple

519
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Speaker 1: of those guys, I think they have a situation where

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Speaker 1: they can rotate that defensive line and not have a

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Speaker 1: big drop off um in terms of bringing in that

522
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Speaker 1: second unit um. And I think that's a really in

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Speaker 1: terms of how the game goes, you know, particularly in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Yeah. Well, look, Tomlinson really showed me

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Speaker 1: a lot as a rookie last year. He was on

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Speaker 1: the old Rookie team and and I think the sky's

527
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Speaker 1: the limit for him. I just think he's a really

528
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Speaker 1: really smart and and physical player. And I can't say enough,

529
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Speaker 1: nor can the coaches about b J. Hill come and

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Speaker 1: in this year from NCY State. I mean, these are

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Speaker 1: two very young, very exciting players. If your coach at

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Speaker 1: James Betcher head heading up that defense, yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: just would give you this one last comic, guys, is

534
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: that you know this sport more than any other. You know,

535
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Speaker 1: the impact of coaching is dramatic. And I think when

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Speaker 1: you look at the change in the roster, and I

537
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Speaker 1: know we get into analyzing player by player, which is

538
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Speaker 1: which is fun and necessary, but I think the biggest

539
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Speaker 1: thing that's going to have an impact on this team

540
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: is you know, I'm sure you know his offensive scheme,

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Speaker 1: his game planning, his play calling. Thatcher the same thing

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Speaker 1: on defense, as well as a lot of their position coaches.

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Speaker 1: And I think you can look at it and you

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Speaker 1: look at last year and you look at Jacksonville and

545
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: that roster didn't change much, and they change coaching. And

546
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: you go look at the Rams and that roster didn't

547
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Speaker 1: change much and they change coaching and and and you know,

548
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Speaker 1: so I think, to me, when I look at this

549
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Speaker 1: going forward, and that's why I think people have to

550
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Speaker 1: pump the brakes from the preseason a little bit because

551
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: you don't have game planning, you don't have a whole

552
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Speaker 1: lot of scheming. I think they're testing things. You notice

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Speaker 1: against Cleveland. Even in our run game, we ran right

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Speaker 1: a lot of times, and I think that was just

555
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Speaker 1: to kind of test the right side of the line

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Speaker 1: and see what we can do on that side. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think that they you know, I think they'll have

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Speaker 1: a lot of runs to the left because I think

559
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Speaker 1: they'll you know, um, but I don't think they don't

560
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: need to do that. So I think that's where you're

561
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: going to see a big impact in terms of where

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Speaker 1: the season is going to go. So you guys, have

563
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Speaker 1: a great day. Thanks for taking my call. Like always, guys,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate I understand what he said in a general perspective.

565
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: Certainly he's got a good point there. But let's not

566
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Speaker 1: forget Jacksonville drafted for net They signed Clais campbell Um,

567
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: very significant additions to the roster. It's not just as

568
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Speaker 1: simple as changing the coach and everything magically gets better.

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Speaker 1: It can get better, and I think it has gotten

570
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Speaker 1: under here with the Giants. But of course the Giants

571
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Speaker 1: have done quite a bit to retool the roster themselves. No,

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's a combination of both, and

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Speaker 1: that's what the last goaler was alluded to and what

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Speaker 1: you added. How about a J boyer was also added

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Speaker 1: in the centertory for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Let's not forget

576
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Speaker 1: about that. I think they're ecstatic. They added players at

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Speaker 1: every level. Yes, the coaching staff did change, but remember

578
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron was the interim coach and then basically got

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Speaker 1: the permanent titles, so he was already there. I just

580
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Speaker 1: think that when you put sometimes coaches in different roles

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Speaker 1: and they have more of a prominent voice, that a

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Speaker 1: little bit more influential. Yeah, then maybe the culture, the

583
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: landscape and the team could change. That's certainly well documented.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with the Rams. I mean, I think Wade

585
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Phillips has had a significant impact on that defense, and

586
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: he's not necessarily the head coach. So you know, there's

587
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Speaker 1: another example where I can see it going both ways.

588
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: And you know they added some new faces on defense

589
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: as well. Todd Gurley was healthy, Jared Goff has come

590
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: a long way in terms of development. Certainly a combination

591
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Speaker 1: of multiple factors. All right, let's head back to the

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Speaker 1: phone lines coach Marvin in Delaware, Coach Marvin, what's happening?

593
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Speaker 1: Are you doing? Last? My man? Paul Hi doing a coach?

594
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Are you for us? Oh? Man, I didn't get a

595
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Speaker 1: chance to call yesterday. I had so much on that

596
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: evaluation of the game on last Thursday. Um offensively and

597
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: defensively on the offensive side, you got um. The first

598
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna start off this with with the run

599
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Speaker 1: by um Um Barkley and how many different things he

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Speaker 1: showed on that run. He showed vision, Um, he showed

601
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Speaker 1: a jump step, Um, he showed the looselessness, he showed acceleration,

602
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you saw the speed

603
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Speaker 1: all of that in one run. So that there was

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00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot in that one run you could see, Um,

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00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: coach Marvin, you're leaving out something but that he wasn't

606
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: careless with the football either. No, he was uh, you know,

607
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: he had a good grip on it right right right,

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Speaker 1: And and the thing he did that was also good

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00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: is uh he set the blocks up. Well Ingram came

610
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Speaker 1: out and said how well he said that blocks up?

611
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Speaker 1: And I did say that about it when people were saying, well,

612
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: while should we draft him if we can't up the

613
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Speaker 1: offensive line. And my thing was sometimes a good running

614
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: back knows how to set those flocks up, and he

615
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: did that and that was outstanding played by him. Um.

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Speaker 1: The second thing on the offense, which would be the

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Speaker 1: last thing I talked about on the offense, is uh,

618
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: people talking about the quarterback. M I watched the game

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Speaker 1: the first time. I had to go back and watch

620
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Speaker 1: it the second time. I try to break it down

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Speaker 1: the second time, and um, Webb didn't you know what

622
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: what was a little high? Well, he was high on

623
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Speaker 1: his throws, um, but it things for me. I'm not

624
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: for sure, but it looks like he wasn't He was

625
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: using his arm more than his leg. He threw a

626
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: pass on a flag route I can't remember who ran.

627
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: It should have been a touchdown. He threw it to

628
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Speaker 1: the inside when he should have threw it to the

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Speaker 1: flag and that probably would have been a touchdown. And

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Speaker 1: I just felt that he was throwing those balls when

631
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at it the second time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's causing it. They go high

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure that they're looking at that. But maybe

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Speaker 1: he was a a little nervous. But those throws are

635
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: there on the strong that he can make every throw

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00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: on the field. You could see it. It's just that

637
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: he's got to put it there a little a little better. Yeah,

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00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: two things, coach Marvin, real quick before you go to

639
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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. I agree with you

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Speaker 1: about Davis. I think because he was so amped up,

641
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be so perfect, he was tight. And when

642
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: guys get tight, usually there are mechanics are the first

643
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: thing that gets thrown out of whack. So that would

644
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: be my answer to that. Uh, Barkley, I thought what

645
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: was even more signifant again about Barkley, and I thought

646
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: that the thirty nine yard run was huge for all

647
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: the reasons that you just stated. But there was another

648
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: play that we actually showed on the MSG show last

649
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: night when I was hosting with Shawn O'Hara. It was

650
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a simple run, okay to the right side. It got

651
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: strung out and he wound up with only three yards

652
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: on the play. But I want to give credit to

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00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: the offensive line and and and the tight end Jamal

654
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams up front, Jamal Adams, Jamal Adams up front,

655
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: because it was the kind of play that in the

656
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: past when a Giant's running back got that ball and

657
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: he took that first step toward the line. They had

658
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: have been a defender already attached to his hips, his knees,

659
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: and or his ankles. But in this particular play, the

660
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 1: Giants offensive line the guy's up front, they sealed off

661
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: that that front low, that front hole okay, and from

662
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: tackle to tackle, even though they didn't get any push

663
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: or any movement or created crease. You could argue, all

664
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: that's bad, I'm gonna say it's good because what happened

665
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: was the defense got held up at the line of scrimmage.

666
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Barkley said, Okay, I can't go where I'm supposed to go.

667
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut and go around the damn. And he

668
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: went around the damn, was one on one with a

669
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: guy on the outside, couldn't couldn't beat him, got tackled,

670
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: but it was a three yard gain instead of a

671
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: three yard loss. And that is where the combination of

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00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Barkley's talent and the improved blocking up front will dramatically

673
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: help this team because, as Eli Manning has told us

674
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: a billion times, stay out of negative place. The fewer

675
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: negative plays you have, the better off you're going to be.

676
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: And coach Marvin, I can't say that strongly enough, right,

677
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: all right, And I did see the show. I did

678
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: watched the show yesterday. Okay, so yesterday, and I did

679
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: see that film, and then, uh, yeah, that was a

680
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: that was a good play on him and the officer

681
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: line held up enough that it didn't leak totally that

682
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: he get outside exactly on that back. Huge, huge, because

683
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: now it's second and seven instead of second down, and right,

684
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So that that was a good run.

685
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: That some people would look at it as negative, but

686
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: it was a good run. The normal fan would look

687
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: at uh, he didn't get it, you know. You look,

688
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: they're looking for a big run every time. Exactly. Somebody

689
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: actually got to me on Twitter and I was describing

690
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: this play and he goes to me, Oh, he only

691
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: got three yards, what's the big deal. No, it is

692
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: a big deal. Right. They don't see it the same

693
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: way they don't understand the plate calling. As I said,

694
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: plate calling is not something you just so plays up

695
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: against the wall. You're trying to make yards as you're

696
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: trying to set them up something else later on. No

697
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: doubt about that too. Yeah. Yeah, so situational football, you

698
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: know people don't understand situation unifer ball, especially average maybe

699
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: maybe my opinion, an average fan and I have that

700
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: problem when I dealt with parents that they just do.

701
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think we feel like we're dealing with parents too.

702
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: It's sometimes you have to actually look a little bit

703
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: closer to play than just look at the result. Go

704
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: to the other side. I've already taken up a lot

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00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: of your time. Go ahead real quick, because we want

706
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: to get to a few more calls here, Margaret. Okay, Uh,

707
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: but before I took off the offensive line real quick,

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00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: um kyl Letter, you gotta look at his throws. They

709
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: were outstanding throws. The one he threw on the left side. Uh,

710
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: it was a deep throw and that call for passing

711
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: the ball landed perfectly into his hands if he had

712
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: got his other hand free to make the catch perfect.

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00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: He do want to louise out in the full out

714
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: in the slong the sideline on the tights move by

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00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: Lewis them. That was seek on his numbers. So those throws.

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00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: Don't look at how many he completed, or how many

717
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: he threw or how many yards. Look at the accuracy

718
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: of those throws. People need to go back and look

719
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: at that um defensively real quick. Um I thought the

720
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: secondary I was concerned about um um Baker Maker breaking

721
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: them down. He did, He did some things through them.

722
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: But the good thing that I saw out of the defense,

723
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: even those um, I think Land said it earlier. They

724
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: were in position that the team was in position to

725
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: make plays, and we just didn't make those plays. Um.

726
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: I think st. Johnson at the corner he made the

727
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: mouthstanding plays. But one thing I didn't like is his fook.

728
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: He's not hooking that guy, so if he missed that ball,

729
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: those guys are getting free. It was a perfect throw

730
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: by Baker, but he went to hook him and he's

731
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: not hooking him good enough, so that guy can't get away.

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00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: You can't hook him. You just gotta make clean enough

733
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: that the reference. I know what you mean, because people

734
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: got to understand it's not hooking until the referee said

735
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 1: is hooking. That's right. That's right. Well, but you gotta

736
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: be careful because if you don't practice the fundamentals, then

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00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: you get a ref that's gonna call it. All that's

738
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: been in this league along, ye, he needs to know

739
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: how to do that right. He had. He did it twice.

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00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: He made a great play that on one time he

741
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: dived and broke up up. He did, he did. He

742
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: didn't really hook him. But it was a mixed bag

743
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: for him that night. But that's that second one. He

744
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: hooked him and and he didn't even in the receiver

745
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: didn't even break stride, so he didn't hook him good enough.

746
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: And the safety just flew. The tackle just whipped. And

747
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: I always told my guy, especially safety, don't die to me.

748
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: That's just as you just you just kind of trying

749
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: to fool me, like you're trying to make the play

750
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: and whole thing you make the play, stay on your

751
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: feet and make the play right, don't if you go

752
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: back to that film and look at that. Whoever the

753
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: safety was, well that was O Ryan Stewart. Yeah, O

754
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Stewart got being on that play. Yeah, it was too.

755
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: And that's how what could be a containment play gets

756
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: blown up into a big plan. Letten coach, Mark, We're

757
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: gonna let you go on that note. I want to

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00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: squeeze in a few more calls before we get John

759
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: on the lines from Detroit. You gotta take care. Let's

760
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: hit a Bobby in Arizona. Bobby, what's happening. Hey, John,

761
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm a first I'm a first time caller. I interact

762
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: with you guys on Twitter, Big Blue Bobby, Okay every

763
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: once in a while. Um, I just wanted to tell

764
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: everybody everyone's got to relax about the defense being in Arizona.

765
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: I've got to watch better over the years, a lot

766
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: his teams always start off three games slow and then

767
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: the defense picks it up. Yes, he ranks in the

768
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: top ten by the end of the year, but in

769
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, even even the veterans, everyone

770
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: starts off about three games slow. So the preseason is

771
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna look really bad because it's a complicated defense. Just

772
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: like Go seven when we started off really slow. What's Bagnola,

773
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: It's complicated. Defenses are like that, right, Well, yeah, except

774
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: the problem is, um, you know, Jacksonville, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans,

775
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: those first four games are a bear and and I

776
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know that you just want to give him a

777
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: mulligan for three games and start off owing three. I mean,

778
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, I I've said all along, I think the

779
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: Giants need to be two and two after the first

780
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: four and and that would be a good starting point

781
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: for the season. I just feel like I think the

782
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the year, you're our offense hopefully

783
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: is going to have to carry us a little bit more.

784
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean Arizona. Here in Arizona, I mean, and you

785
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: can look at the stats in the first couple of years,

786
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: and they've had pretty much the same people on there,

787
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: and they have a lock on corner shutting down one

788
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: of the sides, and they've started off slow every year.

789
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: So I just think everyone either should be really prepared

790
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: for that, but this guy won't be falling because of it. Yeah,

791
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's fair. You know,

792
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: but again, you don't you don't want to go over September.

793
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: That would be really bad. No, absolutely not. I really,

794
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: I really believe that we're going to sneak out that

795
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: win in Jacksonville to open it up. Well, that'd be

796
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: in the right direction teams coming in. I don't know

797
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: anybody who wouldn't want that win. To be honest with you, Well,

798
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I love what you

799
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: guys do and listen to you every podcast. Uh even

800
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: Lance like you to Lance. That's great. I can't tell

801
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: you how I'm gonna sleep well at night. Thank you.

802
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: Glad you went out of your way to mention that, Yeah,

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00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: I have a great day. Thank you. Hi, Bobby, Let's

804
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: go to Pete on Stanard Island. Pete, what's happening? Take

805
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: it in to the guys? Are you hello? All right?

806
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: What's happen to you? All right? I love when I

807
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: follow a coach moving a little bit because I'm gonna

808
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: coach myself. I don't think I ever told you, does

809
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: you know? But I don't like Lauren into that pee

810
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: wee don't matter, you know. But anyway, come on, guys,

811
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: give me, give me a chuckle on the pee wee.

812
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: Take a seat, all right, you know. Anyway, I wanted

813
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: to going to David's Web a little bit, Paul, you know,

814
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: like you know, like, um, I agree with you, but

815
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: I tend to disagree with you. I've been a big

816
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: David's Web supporter, just but just off of what I

817
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: saw on film and whatnot. Um, you know, going back,

818
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: you know, I watched maybe five or six change of film,

819
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: and then I watched a little bit on the uh,

820
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: the Senior Bolt and of course we didn't get any

821
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: flavor from him last year. I love the um after

822
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: watching him the other night. You know, I want to

823
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: say every every pass was over the phone, you know,

824
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: forget about you know, our almost the pass well over

825
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: for him. Maybe we camped up, Maybe he wasn't. I

826
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the word they seem to be using,

827
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: but I can't give him a pass on that. You know,

828
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: as far as being happed up, you know, at some

829
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: point you have to be able to slow the game down.

830
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: And if you if you make you know, after you

831
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: make the first couple of rows or you know, the

832
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: third row, it's fil like a picture in the game,

833
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, the first few, you know, in the playoff game,

834
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: the first couple of holes in night four hundred, until

835
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: he relaxes and it might be over the catcher's head.

836
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: The first few passes. Okay, I'll give him a little pass,

837
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: but then after that, after third or fourth one, I

838
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: can't give him the pass anymore. Pe Let me ask

839
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: you a question. Are you a baseball fan at all?

840
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: But okay, I guess, okay, what do you say? What?

841
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: We're most Yankees fans staying about Gina and Carlos Stanton.

842
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: After the first month of the season, they were saying

843
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: the right right, I got that right, he couldn't adjust

844
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: to the American League. It was the pressure of New York.

845
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if he's got the mentality,

846
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: don't know if he's got the emotional makeup and the toughness,

847
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, Giancarlo, all that money he's making, big hype

848
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: and now look at right, right, so right, so so. So.

849
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Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is to to hang David's

850
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: web by his toneenails, as his critics. No, you're not,

851
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: you're not, you're not. But there are critics out there

852
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: who want to hang him by his tone nails and

853
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: already proclaim that he's a bust and has no chance

854
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: and the Giants were wrong not to take a QB.

855
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: They're doing this after seeing two quarters of the first

856
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: preseason game. That is preposterous. That is a joke. I

857
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: weren't thousand the same agree with that. As a matter

858
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: of fact, Pul, I've been on a lot of different

859
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: websites and I've been arguing with guys back report that

860
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: you can't listen, you can't look at preseason as anything

861
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: ordering evaluation or whatever. And secondly, like you were saying,

862
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: the second team, you know, playing with the second unit

863
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: or the third unit or whatever. However, a wevel, I

864
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: don't care if he was out there with the first unit.

865
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: The balls were overflown. It doesn't matter if Bob j

866
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: was out there as sterling or no question. It was

867
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: a tough fight. It was a bad night for him.

868
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: Now he's not running away from that. He's not running

869
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: away from it. It It was a bat Hey, whuis Savarino

870
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: had a terrible night last night too? He's not running

871
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: away from it. No. Well, my point is, you know,

872
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: pulling and and and last, you'd have to agree at

873
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: some time you have to be able to mentally slow

874
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: the slowly game down, right, make your reads and let

875
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: the ball fly. You have to slow the game down. Well, Pete,

876
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: that's why it's important to see what happens in the

877
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: next three games. I'm with you, I mean, Paul and

878
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: I spent the entire top of the show we were

879
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: talking about this very thing, and I said, it's part

880
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: of the evaluation for David's Webb. But it's all so

881
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: not the end all be all, So you know, like,

882
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: let's see what happens before. But but I said the

883
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: exact thing that you pointed out. I said, whether he's

884
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: playing with the first team, the second team of the

885
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: third team. It is what it is on film. You

886
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: still can't produce that he still has to produce. You've

887
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: got to take care of the football. You gotta make

888
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: a decision. There's no doubt, absolutely, and I think you

889
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: know and I still have the confidence in them or whatnot.

890
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: But you know, as far as giving him a pass

891
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: for being apped up, I can't do that. Okay, just

892
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: slow down, slow the game down, go through your progressions,

893
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: make your reads, let it lie. That's all. I mean.

894
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: I know this football, but it is really as simple

895
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: as that. Well, I'll actually one thing to say, Pete,

896
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: to be honest in terms of as you continue to

897
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: explain this, I think from talking to the people around here,

898
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: they were actually happy with his reads. It was the

899
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: physical throws where he was getting out of whack, and

900
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: as coach Robbin said, his mechanics were very good on

901
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: those throws and correct and for whatever the reason was.

902
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Whether or not you want to buy that he was

903
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: pressing and that he was too amped up, that's your prerogative.

904
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: But but I do believe it's unfair to criticize his

905
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: mental processing because my understanding was he did a pretty

906
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: darne good job of reading the defenses that were thrown

907
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: against him. I'm not gonna argue with you, Paul as

908
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: a you know, great assessment, and I'll go along with it. Um.

909
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: Two things I did notice and then I just wanted

910
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: to go to Barkley real quick. Two things I noticed

911
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: with Davis. On one throw it was an outwro out,

912
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: he drew off his right foot, okay, um. And also

913
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: on a screen pass, same thing, right foot, he drew

914
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: off his front way. Okay, So that that's mechanical and

915
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: that can be corrected. I know that, okay. And quickly

916
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: getting the Berkley. Um. You know what, people gotta chill out,

917
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: all right, you know, as far as I'm concerned. You

918
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: know what, Um, we're gonna, um, we're going to monitor

919
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: him or whatever. We're gonna take it slow translation gonna

920
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna shut him down. Basically, they're going to shut

921
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: him down. That's the way I see it, and I

922
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: think it's it's very prudent for them to shut him down.

923
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised for him to get a couple

924
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: of practice reps along the way, but I don't expect

925
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: to see him until the final preseason game. Uh, that's

926
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: my opinion. I don't know if you guys have to

927
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: have an opinion on that same way. Ol b J

928
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: was basically kept down when he tweeked his string the

929
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: first year, right well, last year he tweeked it if

930
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: you remember against the Cleveland Browns, and we're gonna let

931
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: you go on that note, Pete, thanks so much for waiting.

932
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: And he got hurt against the p and then and

933
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: then they moved him along slowly. They were no rush

934
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: to bring him back. Unfortunately, he then got hurt in

935
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: that fifth year. His scenario is very plausible. You could

936
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: certainly understand if the Giants don't do anything with Barkley

937
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: for at least two weeks. I think that would make

938
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: one listen. That's I keep going back to Pat Tremer's comment.

939
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna be smart as we move forward.

940
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: So that means they're going to take it slow and

941
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: they'll see what transpires moving forward. But it's not as

942
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: if there's a rush to get him in the game

943
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: this week. Could he play in the Jets game, It

944
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: depends on how he feels. If not, then maybe you

945
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: wait for the Patriots game, and then you get ready

946
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: for a week one. So I think that that's uh,

947
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: you know what it comes down to. It'll be interesting

948
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: to monitor, it'll be important to monitor that goes without saying,

949
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: but you know how many reps he gets in the preseason.

950
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily gonna define what happens with

951
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: respect to the season. The key point is you put

952
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: him back on the field, Paul, when he's ready, as

953
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: opposed to you put him back on the field because

954
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: he's itching to get back on or because you need

955
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: to win this weekend's game. Obviously you don't right now.

956
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: That's the key. Two zero one four five one three

957
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: is the telephone number hashtag Giants Chat. Let's head back

958
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: to the lines. We got duke and Queen's duke. What's happening?

959
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: You know I have to come back on here and

960
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: just send myself, Um, Paulie, I'm not even trying to

961
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: convince you that you shouldn't like David Slap or even

962
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: any fans. I just when I look at some athletes, right,

963
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: they they if you're a real talented person, if you

964
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: if you're gifted, you don't ever do really bad ever,

965
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: like for the most part, and and and that's the

966
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: most sports. But in terms of football, you made for

967
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: guys like Tom Brady. You remember Tom Brady. He was

968
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: doing horrible in practice when he first came in the league,

969
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: even to the point where coaches were thinking about getting

970
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: rid of him. And then you know when he when

971
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: he got put in, you know what he did. He

972
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: clutched it up and he looked at that age. That's

973
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: what he did, all right. So you got a guy

974
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: has to do in the opposite a guy that's in

975
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: practice killing, and then when he gets into the game,

976
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: he's not doing much. I get his second string offense,

977
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: but its second string defense. I get it. I get

978
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: that your old line it's really really bad compared to

979
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: the first uh, compared to the first team's old line.

980
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, you have to be able to

981
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: keep the players alive. I'll team offense, it's not as

982
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: good as a lot of first teams defense. Do you

983
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: have any idea how bad Terry Bradshaw was as a

984
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: rookie with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He put up one of

985
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: the worst full season statistical lines for a starting quarterback

986
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: in NFL history. He was a total embarrassment for a

987
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: full regular season do you think the Steelers should have

988
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: given up on him? No, No, you're looking at but

989
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: but Paul, we're looking at a team that the team

990
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: offered to me and thirteam. Well, what we're gonna give this.

991
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: Let's say David Webb does the same thing and anything,

992
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: but book. They don't need David's Webb to be good

993
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: for at least a year or two, if not longer.

994
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: Eli still the guy. Yeah, and that's what I said earlier.

995
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: Eli mannings the starter. I understand that you want to

996
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: solidify the number two spot, and every team should be

997
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: prioritizing that. Sometimes, I say, the backup quarterbacks at some

998
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: points one of the most overlooked positions in the NFL

999
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: because you're only one play away running the offense. So

1000
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: it's important. And look at the Eagles, they had a

1001
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: respectable backup. That's why they were able to overcome Carson White.

1002
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: It is important. It's according to the big scope of things,

1003
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: the idea is going to pay. So I don't think

1004
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: the urgency is overwhelming this season. Oh my god, we

1005
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: need David's Webb to look like a pro bowler because

1006
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, we're in trouble. I don't think that

1007
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: that's the point right now, let me get back in

1008
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: this yo. So all right, tell me tell me one

1009
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: young quarterback that's starting right now that David scorp is

1010
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: bettered in. All right, you can't so tell me this now? Well, well,

1011
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: well give me that was I mean, first of all,

1012
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: I didn't have well how many how many young First

1013
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: of all, most of the young quarterbacks in this league

1014
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: that are starting probably had at least a regular season

1015
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: or a few regular season games under their belt in fairness.

1016
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: So alright, so talking about Tom Brady got in in

1017
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: a regular season game, Tom Brady bloodso got hurt. Yeah,

1018
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: And and David's Webb has not played in a regular before.

1019
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: You guys are not getting that he hasn't played in

1020
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: a regular season games because he's not killing it in practice.

1021
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: That to the point. Why because Eli Manning was the starter? Hello?

1022
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: Why did Smith? Gen Smith? Why? Because that was coach

1023
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: mcadoo's plan all along, That was the whole point. That's

1024
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: why they signed Geno Smith because they thought they had

1025
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: a team that was a Super Bowl contender and they

1026
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: wanted a veteran to be number two. When they put

1027
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: David's Webb into training camp, they told him, you're gonna

1028
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: red shirt this year. You're gonna be the three. You're

1029
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna red shirt. Now. I know Davis has said after

1030
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: the fact that coach McAdoo had told him after the

1031
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Raider game that you would come back and play the

1032
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: next three. I'm not Look, I'm sure that David Webb

1033
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: heard those words from coach McAdoo, but I will tell

1034
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: you other members of the coaching staff have said to

1035
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: me that was not going to be the case, that

1036
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: that story is unverified. I know that Davis Webb heard

1037
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: those words, because Davis is not a liar. I'm sure

1038
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: he heard those words from coach McGill. But I'm telling

1039
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: you I don't I personally don't believe Davis Webb was

1040
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: getting in the game. Guys, giants, let me let let

1041
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: me just make one thing, surety giants for life. And

1042
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't ever like talking bad about people, especially in

1043
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: our players. And I'm not really talking too bad. I'm

1044
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: just not liking what I'm seeing. Let me ask you this,

1045
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: how when should I give up on him? When should

1046
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: I give up? I already have, but I might give

1047
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: him a second chance because I love you, guys. I mean,

1048
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: like anything else, like anything else. I mean, I think

1049
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: you gotta see the next few preseason games and then

1050
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: I think you have more to go by in terms

1051
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: of having an opinion which is well rounded about him.

1052
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all I would say. Let's see three

1053
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: more preseason and Duke, you're gonna love this because I'm

1054
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: giving you sim leeway here. When Ryan Nassep got here, okay,

1055
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: there was a legitimate thought that he would be a

1056
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: solid backup quarterback in the NFL, A solid backup that

1057
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: I projected. I projected him like the Giants did. He

1058
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: looked like a solid backup. Okay, some other people thought higher,

1059
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: but I thought solid back up. His second preseason he

1060
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: certainly looked apart. But then when he came back for

1061
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: his third preseason, he was absolutely underwhelming. How can we

1062
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: use that word? But there was also a number of

1063
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: preseason engaged at that time that you had on the resume,

1064
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: and by that point, by that point, the evidence was

1065
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: overwhelming that he was going in the wrong direction and

1066
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: it was not gonna happen, and you know, they had

1067
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: to do what they had to do when they moved on. Well,

1068
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: if that evidence presents itself with Davis Webb. In another

1069
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: year or two, maybe I will feel differently. The evidence

1070
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: will force me to feel differently. But now I've seen

1071
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: this guy too much over the course of the last year.

1072
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: Let me say this you that Davis Webb I saw

1073
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: the other night against the Cleveland Browns. That is the

1074
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: worst I've seen him look probably since last August, maybe

1075
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: last September, when he would come out before kickoff and

1076
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: throw three hours before a game. He hasn't looked that

1077
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: bad in a long, long, long time. So I'm looking

1078
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: at that. It's an operation for me. I get the

1079
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: same that you guys think. I saw him in this

1080
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: one game and then I hate him. Yo, He's had

1081
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: a year to develop. I'm not seeing that's a long time.

1082
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: But have you seen it? But have you seen have

1083
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: you seen any of that stuff? Have you been out

1084
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: here three hours before a game watching him throw all

1085
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: the routes on the route tree? Have you watched that?

1086
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: No highlight? You and I showed support. That's how you know,

1087
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: devoted fan. Alright, Duke, at the at the end of

1088
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: the day, we gotta we gotta let you go because

1089
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: we got Duke, dud Duke, Duke. No, No No, we gotta

1090
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: let you go. We're up against the end of the

1091
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: and we got we got a guest from Detroit. But

1092
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: did I give up on them? That last question? Go

1093
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: another two years? Listen calls tomorrow. The main point that

1094
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: the main point that we were emphasizing, just to close

1095
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: the door on this conversation because I didn't think it

1096
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: was gonna become the David's web showing he's got five

1097
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: preseason games, Ryan nass him to your point, had We're

1098
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: talking about three full preseasons to go by, so a

1099
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: number of more games in terms of the event. The

1100
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: error was going down towards the end. So you know,

1101
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: like anything else, the sample side should should be big

1102
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: enough before you make declarations about players. Yes, Josh Wilkins

1103
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: on the line, joining us from Detroit as the Giants

1104
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: and the Lions had their first joint practice. How we doing,

1105
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: John Well, I could hear Brandon had me on the line.

1106
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: They're waiting for the bus. Then, Yeah, was all yelling

1107
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: at a poor caller about something. I'm just not sure

1108
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: what it was. You know exactly what it was. Yeah,

1109
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: I think you know what it is about John. I mean,

1110
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: you put two and two together, you think about his

1111
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: most passionate subject. I think you understand what we were talking.

1112
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, everybody wants to jump off the bridge off

1113
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: of Davis's performance the other night. But anyway, tell us

1114
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: a little bit about what happened this morning in practice, please, yeah. Absolutely. Um.

1115
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: By the way, I apologize to being on so late

1116
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: in the show, but media val ended around like one

1117
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: oh five, and then they ushered us and needially onto

1118
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: a bus. It was a pretty empty bus when I

1119
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: got on. I went in the back of my uck

1120
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 1: and made the call from the bus it will be great.

1121
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: Then about a dozen players that literally as the show

1122
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: while the players are all um. So so that's why

1123
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, I literally just walked off the bus

1124
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: at the hotel in the Tory. Anyway, Um, the highlight

1125
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: of practice from me today, guys. The first of all,

1126
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: there was no larky. He did not work um. Odell

1127
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Basically practiced in full Um. If he got

1128
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: less reps, I didn't notice it, and he was uncoverable. Um.

1129
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: He was great, uh fantastic. In fact, the whole first

1130
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: team offense was wonderful pretty much the entire day. I

1131
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: think to the first three phases of the practice. I

1132
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: think he liked it. One in complete passed over the

1133
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: first three periods UM and then the The only throughout

1134
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: the day for the first team offense was during the

1135
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: last period they were on the field together as a team.

1136
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: In two minutes, they marsh all the way down the field,

1137
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: they crossed the fifty uh. In fact, Eui hit little

1138
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. On a crossing route that I think would

1139
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: have went for a touchdown, but Detroit player was kind

1140
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: of in the area. You know how they kind of

1141
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: blow those plays dead. The defensive player is close enough,

1142
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: so they blew that play dead. Um that like the

1143
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: twenty five or so. And then on the next play

1144
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: UM Eui was a little bit late on the photo

1145
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: evanding ram over the middle and a Lion safety jumped

1146
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: the route and got the picks. And that was really

1147
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: the only blemish on what Otherwise, it was a fantastic

1148
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: day for the Giant's first team offense. It was great,

1149
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: very cool. Did you get a chance at all to

1150
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: see the offensive lines, trenches drills? Okay, so here's the day,

1151
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: man David deal with the two guys kind of really

1152
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: hard pure watching practices. And I said on the show

1153
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: yesterday there's a million things happening at the same time.

1154
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: So um, I sent the expert David Deal over there

1155
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: to watch the office ins and the defensive line one

1156
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: on ones, and I got a four report from him. Um,

1157
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: so i'll the only saw the Giants offensive one of

1158
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: defensive the offense first, all right, offensive line first. As

1159
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: I put my note at the one, Mr Deal told me, um,

1160
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: ah shoulder was very good against answer, had two good reps,

1161
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: wrote him outside and around the quarterback. He was very good. Um.

1162
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: He thought how a po had the best set of

1163
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: reps of any Giant offensive lineman. During one on ones

1164
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: he thought he did a really good job. Was absolutely

1165
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: stolen all the guy in front of him. He thought

1166
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: Hermandez was very good on his first rep, not as

1167
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: good on a second, but he got the job that

1168
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: a secnique could have been a little bit better. Um,

1169
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: And o'mam a was was was solid and then Flowers

1170
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: didn't get beat on the outside by Devon Knard on

1171
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: one of his reps. So, uh, mostly good, but there

1172
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: were a couple of things I need a little bit.

1173
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: Then on the defensive side of the ball, I should

1174
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: say um Bernon was great. Uh. He basically from what

1175
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: Deal told me, took Decker of school a little bit

1176
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: um and and really got into the backfield, did a

1177
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: great job, Terry winning a good snap out of the

1178
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: three technique, and Robert Thomas basically put the lion center

1179
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: on his end when he took his rest. So those

1180
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: are the guys that that that stood out in the

1181
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: online Robert Thomas was a good week, especially what he

1182
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: did to that. Yeah, he actually also would have had

1183
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: a sack during team period as well. Wow. Nice. I

1184
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: was just curious John because pat Shermer spoke a lot

1185
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: about knowing Matt Patricia beforehand and that they would have

1186
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: a good grasp on practice. What was the tone of

1187
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: these practices like overall, I'm assuming nothing got to the

1188
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: point where the chippiness factor was at an all time high.

1189
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: Nothing even close to chippiness being thought about. It was

1190
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: one of the most professional, low run things that I've seen,

1191
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: even on one on ones and one on ones where

1192
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: there was a lot of competition. You saw guys kind

1193
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: of you know, flapping himself in the helmet and you know,

1194
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: putting their arm around him after the play. So I

1195
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: think both coaches and they did and those are the

1196
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: busses driving by. By the way, I think both coaches

1197
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: made an abundantly clear to their team that they were

1198
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: to be no Shenanigans, and I thought both teams handled

1199
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: the day's work extremely well. I did watch the wide

1200
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: receive the d D one on ones I thought were interesting,

1201
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: and I thought the Giants. I thought the Giants offense

1202
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: really really did well. To be honest with you, um

1203
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: O'Dell he couldn't cover him. I thought he was fantastic.

1204
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: Sheppard and Ingram did a really good job in those

1205
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: reps as well, and even Hunter Sharp and Puddy Laddimer

1206
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: were getting in separation on those defensive backs. For the

1207
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: lines on the other side, I thought Eli Appling and

1208
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: and Doris Jenkins played well as you would expect. And

1209
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: then I think the guys that passed them in the

1210
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: secondary maybe gave up a couple of catches. So, UM,

1211
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: I think the things that I felt really good about

1212
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: heading into this week I think looked pretty good. Uh.

1213
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: The stuff that I worried about, man, maybe I'm still

1214
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: looking for a little bit more. Uh. During team portions,

1215
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: the only guy that really got consistent pressure was Liivia Vernon.

1216
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: Um I felt like you'll be excited about this. Every

1217
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: Moss was excellent today with really seen defense. He was

1218
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: in the backfield a lot in passing situations. I thought

1219
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: he played very, very well. Keep an eye on him, man,

1220
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: these next three preseason games. He is so intriguing to me.

1221
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: I just I just don't know what how high that

1222
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: upside is gonna go. He could be skies the limit.

1223
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know, John, what about go ahead? I'm sorry, no,

1224
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that. How many passports he's gonna keep?

1225
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you already a Vernon, Martin, Barwin Carter. I

1226
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: guess you can keep a fifth guy out there if

1227
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: but I think that's the limit. John, if he could

1228
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback, he's gonna stand trust me, absolutely

1229
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: no question. What about the Giants you said the Apple

1230
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: and Um and Jenkins were solid in the one on ones?

1231
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: What about in the team drills? Who is playing free

1232
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: safety and Nickel? Um? You know what, I'm not positive

1233
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: who was playing nickel. I know for sure that for

1234
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: the second straight day Curtis Rod he was the starting

1235
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: free safety. So I'm not gonna say that he's cemented

1236
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: himself there. But given it's almost been like a switch

1237
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: somebody out every day type of deal for the Giants

1238
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: a free safety this year. Um, I thought it was

1239
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: telling that for a second straight day he was the

1240
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: starting free safety. I'll go back, I'll look at the

1241
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: notes and I'll see if I you know, it was

1242
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: b W Web. Sure it was b w Web. That

1243
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: was the that was that was the starting slot with

1244
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: the first team, now that I think about it, and

1245
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: that's been a trend for the last week or so too.

1246
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: John correct And then you know, Leonard Johnson got a

1247
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: couple of reps in there too. I'm not sure that

1248
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: the ones are not but he was also in the slot.

1249
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: But b W Web was out there. He made a

1250
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: couple of plays, gave up a couple of catches. He

1251
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: was okay, So does John Does that mean Dante Dion

1252
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: is still sideline with the hamstring injury. Yes, I have

1253
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: a list of the guy that did not practice. I

1254
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: will give them to you. No say Kuon Barkley, um,

1255
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: no Donte Dion, no r G McIntosh, no card or

1256
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: Borrowing who did talk to the media after practice and

1257
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: he said it's not really an injury for him, it's

1258
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: kind of just body maintenance. In general soreness for him.

1259
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: And somebody asked about that because you didn't really do

1260
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: anything in the spring. He goes, hey, you know, I

1261
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: don't want to overthink it, but I'm a little sore

1262
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: and I asked the coach for some maintenance days and

1263
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: he was fine with it given my experience. So that's

1264
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Uh, Darry and Thompson, No, and then

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fifty seven no, yeah, yeah, fifty

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Speaker 1: seven abreast there still wasn't practicing. So those are the

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Speaker 1: guys that were at. What kind of drills did they

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Speaker 1: do with the kickers, John if if any at all?

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Speaker 1: They did put return and they did field goals and

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Speaker 1: uh did Rosas fair farewell. I mean, I'm getting the

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Speaker 1: impression that he and kN are going to alternate based

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Speaker 1: on what coach Shermer told us in the pre broadcast

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Speaker 1: meeting last week. I don't know what he plans to

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Speaker 1: do against Detroit, but you know that's still a situation.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have to settle Rosas kick today. Uh, Cone

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: didn't in field goals unfortunately, and Rosa did his field

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Speaker 1: goal drills. They did not have the officials underneath the

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Speaker 1: goal post signaling or no good. So I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you for sure, because you know, on the sideline, it's

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: kind of hard from that angle to tell whether or

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: not they went in. Sometimes by my rankings, I had

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Speaker 1: him six for seven roads today, but I did that

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Speaker 1: miss could have been a make, It could have been

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Speaker 1: wide light. I wasn't positive. In terms of punt returns.

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Speaker 1: Did anyone in particular stand out to you that the

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Speaker 1: Giants utilized back there? Or it was pretty much the

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Speaker 1: regular guys. Yeah, same guys, Glance, same guy, puncher, shoppers

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Speaker 1: back there, Beckham was back there, Sheppard was back there,

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: same guys you've seen throughout camp. Did Did the Lions

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Speaker 1: do a lot of back shoulder throws? I'm curious after

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Speaker 1: what happened with the Browns game the other night. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I saw. I was watching the defense

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more than the offense fall I did

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Speaker 1: not see one back shoulder throw. How about that, Well,

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01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: that was something said they were going to work on,

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01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: to work on that. I would think he would have

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: told Ma Patricia, throw bunch of those in practice, because

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: our guys need to need to work interesting. You do

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: know what that that that might not be in the

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Speaker 1: lines playbook, though I'm not sure that's true too. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Stafford doesn't want to throw that route. Well, watching Stafford

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Speaker 1: through the football is fund boy. Did that guy had

1303
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: a cannon? Oh my goodness. Yeah, Well he's got three

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: nice wide receivers to work with. Two. So the Giants

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01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: second there was tested with golden tape, Marvin Jones and

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01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: Kennedy Colliday. I'm sent three year two. It's not as

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Speaker 1: if they were going out there against unknown guys. John,

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Speaker 1: what's on tap for tomorrow? That day, there were there

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01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: were a couple of plays lands to that where Eli

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01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: Apple had some great coverage in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: field and Stafford just throws this rocket up and away

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Speaker 1: from the defensive back in the lines wide this here

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01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: went up to get the ball. So yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: some very nice place in the Lions offense. Do do

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Speaker 1: you have an idea of the tinerary fit of bar Um?

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Speaker 1: I do not have it. I believe what Chumer said,

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Speaker 1: have to practice that will be a very similar day

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Speaker 1: to today. Today was a pretty long practice. It's almost,

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Speaker 1: you know, two and a half hours pretty much, maybe

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Speaker 1: close to three. We were on the field from almost

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Speaker 1: ten forty five UM and that probably like to almost

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Speaker 1: twelve twelve something, so we were we were on the

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Speaker 1: field for a while, and I expect tomorrow's practice to

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Speaker 1: be similarly long. And I think he said they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do more situational stuff tomorrow, So maybe they did seven

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Speaker 1: on seven red zone today where M. E. Y Manning

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01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: was again wonderful. Um, and I think you'll probably see

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Speaker 1: more red zone and third down situational stuff tomorrow, would

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Speaker 1: be my guests John, before I finished up here. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's been hot and humid here for most of the

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: practices during Giants training camp. What is it like out there? Lovely? Um,

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,440
Speaker 1: it was probably when practice started in the high seventies.

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: That probably got to the low eighties once we got

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Speaker 1: towards mid day, towards noon and things like that. Not

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: nearly as human, a little bit steamy, but it's been

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Speaker 1: a nice reprieve from the swamp sequest. Not yaps would be.

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Speaker 1: And I waited this robe it so, so what what's

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,839
Speaker 1: up before we let you go at any uh special

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Speaker 1: dinner plans in the Motown area. You guys just staying

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Speaker 1: put around the hotel? Yeah, you know what where we're

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: pretty far out of the city center. Like minutes, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen. There was some

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Speaker 1: talk about maybe trying to go see the White Sox

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Speaker 1: play the Tigers tonight. That will be the only opportunity

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: to uh, to go see the Tigers. They play a

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Speaker 1: day game tomorrow, then they hit the road, so that's

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Speaker 1: perhaps couldn't be on the agenda. Um. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: we have not explored um many restaurants yet. Good clues, johns.

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Speaker 1: You're in Detroit last night, you didn't have to watch

1350
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: the Mets stomp on the Yankees and it was not pretty.

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01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: Do you think something's wrong with Savorino. It's gotta be.

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: It's gotta be. He just got absolutely thumped and it

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: didn't get any better with the bullpen came in. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you tomorrow, John sounds good. John. I

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Speaker 1: will try to get a little earlier with you guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: If not, I'll give you a call through you get

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Speaker 1: back to hotel again. Thank you. All right, there we go, John,

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Speaker 1: stop in Motown giving us the latest for the Lions

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01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 1: Giants joint practices. Well, the Tigers are not necessarily in

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Speaker 1: the thickest things, so you can take it easy if

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01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: you do go and watch a Tiger's game as opposed

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: to be too hard to get take. That's gonna say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: though they did have a nice offensive performance last night,

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Speaker 1: not that anybody is too worried about that, but that's

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Speaker 1: the latest, So we appreciate everybody for tuning in. John

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: will have reports every single day as they have joint

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01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 1: practices Wednesday and Thursday, so he'll give us the latest

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Speaker 1: and you'll have Big Blue Kickoff live each and every

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Speaker 1: day starting at one pm Eastern, So stay locked. The

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Speaker 1: Giants dot com roll the latest for Paul Ta Tino.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lance Meadow. Have a good rest of your Tuesday

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