1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: We're getting ready for the show. Lots of Bill's talk, 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: lots of NFL talk, John Murphy here, where Steve Tams. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: At twelve thirty, we're gonna be joined by Pro Football 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Researchers Association executive director George Bazeka. He's gonna give us 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: an outline of their week's events. They're having their annual 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: meeting here in Buffalo. We're also going to hear about 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: the next book in their series that outlines great teams 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: in pro football history. At one o'clock, Jenny Brentass from 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. She has spent several weeks chronically what Bill's 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: players and NFL players do off the field during the offseason. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: We'll check in with her. Also a guy who just 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: can't stay off the field, and Buffalo's own Fred Jackson. 13 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna come in and talk about the semi final 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: victory in the playoffs at the American Flag Football League. 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: All of that and much more coming up. One Bill's 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Live starts right now. Oh boy, Steve Kasperstan dowst four times, 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Welcome to One Bills Live, presented 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: by Collat of Health. It is yet another be beautiful 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: day in Orchard Park, New York, newer Afield, bathed in 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: sunshine outside where we are One Bills our one Buffalo 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Studio in the ad Pro Sports Training Center. Another beautiful day. 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: We're indoors. John Murphy, Steve Tasker Company alive from Orchard 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Park with a good show. You heard the lineup, Let's 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: go through it again for you. The Pro Football Researchers 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: Association coming to Buffalo this week. They'll be here for 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: a convention on Friday, Saturday Sunday. We're gonna talk with 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: George Bazica, who's the assistant executive director, about that conference 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: coming up here. Jenny Vrentas from MMQB dot SI dot com. 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Sports illustrated writer Jenny Vrentas joins us today to talk 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: about some of the stuffs that she has covered during 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: the offseason. And one of the all time greats, Fred Jackson, 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: one of the all time favorites among Bills Patons, joins 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: us at two o'clock. He just wrapped up a successful 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: game in the Flag Football League. Fred Jackson will be 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: joining us at two o'clock this afternoon. We start with 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: this disturbing news which we have no further details on you, 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: probably because of social media have come across this bill's 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: running back, Lashawan McCoy graphic photos of alleged abuse inflicted 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: allegedly by Lashan McCoy on his girlfriend. The photos went 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: on Instagram, put up by his girlfriend's friend allegedly. We 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: don't know any of this is true. Allegedly photos taken 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: from a hospital bed this morning accusing the girlfriend, Accusing 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Lashan McCoy of beating up his girlfriend, beating his dog, 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: using drugs, other claims. It just came out fifteen minutes 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: ago before we take the open to the show, before 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: we did our Twitter poll, So we don't know what 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: to tell yet. Drew False who knows. I don't know. 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: We'll find out and whenever we find out, we'll talk 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: about it on the show. Yeah, this is obviously a 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: cloud has descended over one Bill's drive this morning because 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: of this, no question about it, And it caught us 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: off guard because, as you can sell, by the beginning 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: of the show, we had, you know, a normal show 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: lined up and we'll probably get to the guests are 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna come on anyway. But you know that if any 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: of this is true about lash and believe the bills 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: are obviously scrambling to try and find out about all 58 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of this as well. This this hit like a bombshell 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: this morning. Um to the organization fifteen Yeah, Leshaun McCoy. 60 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Uh uh, well what could be what would have been 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career, supposedly, at least in the 62 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: conversation is now. I mean, if any of this is true, 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna everything changes. Uh forget about the 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Bill season this year. Um, he's uh, you know, he's 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: obviously if any of this is true, and the pictures 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: are absolutely graphic and disturbing, and if you know, obviously, 67 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: if if any of it's true, Leshaun's played his last 68 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: game as a pro football player. Um, it's it makes 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: Ray Rice and what happened to him ten years ago 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: or however many years ago that was makes it look 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: like a parking ticket. Um, it's bad, folks. If true, 72 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: if it's true, it's important to mention if true, Steven, 73 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: we don't know anything about it because pictures on Instagram, 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: and there's some a woman who we don't know, you 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: know she is, I don't know who she is. Maybe 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: it's true, maybe it's not. We don't know. I'm reluctant 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: to say a whole lot about it until you know, 78 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: is there a police investigation? We don't know. Is there 79 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: an NFL investigation? We don't know. Are the bills looking 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: into it? Probably, but they haven't issued anything, So I 81 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: don't want to get too far down the road here. 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, these are pictures? Is are the pictures in 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: fact of Leshawn's girlfriend? Yeah, And I don't know. Maybe 84 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: there's no doubt that whether it's true or not, that 85 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: whoever put this up there has a real act to 86 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: grind and they're pretty upset with Leshaun McCoy and for 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: whatever reason, and if it's the reason, is what she says, 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: it is everything changes for things here, um for Lashawn McCoy, um, 89 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: and you get the and if well, it's pretty disturbing 90 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: it that way, and it's question, it's bad and I 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: wish and we have no idea of knowing what is 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: true and what isn't. But during the Instagram post, if 93 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: if you look it up, it's there's a lot of 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: wild accusations in there, but the pictures say a million 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: words and uh, it's bad, folks, and uh it's we're 96 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to this going to be an overriding topic 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: throughout throughout one Bill's Drive and Bills fans and and 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. This is gonna hit big, and it's 99 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: gonna hit hard, and and we uh in Buffalo, we're 100 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: gonna be right in the middle of it, both with 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: our hearts and with our minds and with our attention. 102 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna be Yeah, We're gonna have to 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: deal with it. That's all there is to it. And uh, 104 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: murph and I, I mean it kind of got let's 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: face it, murfh and I. We were all happy to 106 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: be back from vacation yesterday. It felt good to be back, 107 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: and then this this got dropped in our laps, and 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to know how to handle it. We're trying 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: to be as honest as we can with all of 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: you out there and with ourselves and obviously um uh 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the Bills were caught off guard by this too, so 112 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna do the best we can. We're gonna talk 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: about it. We know how serious it is. We don't 114 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: want to make light of it. We don't wanna we 115 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: don't want to say anything too much that this may 116 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how this is going 117 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: to turn out. We don't know anything. The bills are 118 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: trying to find out, we're trying to find out. There's 119 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: only so much we can do. As of now, there's 120 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: not been a word about it, whether the police are 121 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: even looking into this, right, So we are as much 122 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: at a loss as you are. But it really hits 123 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: home for all of us. And we hope that it's 124 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: just some wild thing that happens on the internet once 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a while. But you know, your deepest fear is that 126 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: it's not. And that's that's what scares all of us. Yeah, 127 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: we're reluctant to say much about it, and I would 128 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: caution anyone, uh, you know, can you wait or not? 129 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, is it possible in today's age of instant 130 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: gratification and social media? Is it possible to wait until 131 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: facts are in? I would hope so. And that not 132 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: just for talk show hosts like us, people who are 133 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: on the air, but people like you who talk among yourselves, 134 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: talk to your friends, calling a show like this. Can 135 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: you wait? Can you afford to wait a little bit 136 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: and see what is actually true here? I would hope 137 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: so you may encourage you to do that. You may 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: as well, because Murph and I don't have anything to 139 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: add to the conversation, and so we're we're kind of 140 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: at a loss because we're we're expected to talk about, 141 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, all the things that are pertinent to the team, 142 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and this is the overriding and we don't have any 143 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: idea what's happening. Um, and uh so we're waiting like 144 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: the rest of us. And certainly you can bet if 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: you can be patient, it's all gonna come out, because 146 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: it always does. Yea. So it's uh, we don't know anything. 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: We can't tell you anything, but we do know it's 148 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: for the time being, in the right now and here 149 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: and then this moment, it's really bad, and we're gonna 150 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: wait to see how how how it turns out before 151 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: we can really give you our deep down opinions about it. 152 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Because if we give you pins about anything, it may 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: turn out to be on totally false information. So we're 154 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna sit tight, uh, kind of let this 155 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: ride out for a minute and stay on top of 156 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: it as best we can. We'll keep you in notify 157 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: when we get stuff. It'll be that probably at the 158 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: same time you get it through social media and through 159 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: sources that are outside of this building, So we'll we'll 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: try and stay on top of it as much as 161 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: we can, uh and and keep you as informed as 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: we can be. But for right now we are as 163 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: in the dark as you are. But for the time being, 164 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: obviously it's bad. So that puts a you know, a 165 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: different spin on the kind of show we're gonna look at. 166 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Diane Diana Rasini of ESPN tweeted out, she must talk 167 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: to somebody in our media relations office. The Buffalo Bills 168 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: are aware of the Leshan McCoy allegations, told it as 169 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: being looked into perse sources. Okay, you know that's about 170 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: all you would get. I would think initially, right, we're 171 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: aware of the of the issue, and we're and we're 172 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: looking into it. I don't know if you're gonna get 173 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: much more than that, maybe even the rest of the day, 174 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: at least the three hours we're on the are. Yeah, 175 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: you can bet that the coaching staff and the pr staff, 176 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: the everybody's trying to reach out to Leshaun see what 177 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: he's doing, where he's had, what's going on, and what 178 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: he has to say about it at this early stage. 179 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, that's a that's an enormous question. 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Mark that hangs over everything right now, and that's it 181 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: got dropped right in their lap this today, within thin 182 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, half hour, within the last half hour. But 183 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: right before we were going on this show, I mean 184 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: we were you know, we were too and we did 185 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: this the cold open, we did, you know, we gave 186 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: you the rundown about what we're gonna do. And it 187 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: was all recorded like maybe forty minutes ago. And that 188 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: was even so before this hit. So we are, we 189 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: are as at a loss as you are. Hopefully we 190 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: can muddle through this and get through this, uh what 191 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: seems to be a really, really difficult time. Well, we 192 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: started the day Steve and I and our producer Jay 193 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Harris this morning talking about how yesterday's show I thought 194 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: about it last night, how happy we were coming back 195 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: from vacation. You and I were the Sunshine Boys yesterday. 196 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: You know, everything's great. Vacation, Yeah, vacation was great, Our 197 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: families are great. We had a great weather for most 198 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: of the two weeks, a couple of weeks that we 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: were gone, and that got me thinking, that's not that's 200 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: not the recipe for a successful talk show, sports or anything. Right, 201 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: Most talk show hosts are angry about something, right, Rush Limbaugh, 202 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: stephen A. Smith, always angry. Right, here's the guy Michael 203 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Savage on the radio at night. He's I don't know, 204 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: he just woke up angry. You know, he's got something 205 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: protruding from his body or something. He's so angry. And 206 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I said to Steve, if we're going to be successful, 207 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: we gotta be angry about something, and you immediately rejected that. Now, 208 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: let's put McCoy aside for a second, because again we 209 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: don't know any details about that. But I got thinking, 210 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: what are fans most concerned with going into training camp 211 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: this year? You know, what is it that fans are 212 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: most concerned with at this point or what excuse me, 213 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: sixteen days away from the start of training camp, first 214 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: practice of training camp, what is it that people are 215 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: most concerned with when it comes to the Buffalo Bills. 216 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of things you have to 217 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: talk about. One of them is quarterback play. You know, 218 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: just the question mark at quarterback. A rookie Josh Allen 219 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: who may or may not be ready to start on 220 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: opening day. AJ McCarron who's had modest and limited you know, 221 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: playing time in the NFL, and of course Nathan Peterman, 222 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: who had a couple of stints last year, a couple 223 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: of starts last year and things went not that great 224 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: for him, especially in his first start first half. Is 225 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: it targets in the receiving game, in the passing game, 226 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: lack of viable targets? Is it pass rush? You know, 227 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: the Bills were pretty bad when it came to rushing 228 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: the pasture last year. We'd like to engage with you 229 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: on that. It won't be a Twitter pull, but engage 230 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: with you on what you're most concerned with when it 231 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: comes to the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills. Sixteen days before 232 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: the start of training camp. What keeps you awake at 233 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: night as far as the Bills and their chances of 234 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: success this year. Let's do it on the phones eight 235 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty or outside Buffalo toll free 236 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or 237 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: you can tweet it in at one Bills Live. I 238 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: would start seeing by saying it's it's quarterback play. I 239 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: think the biggest question mark we don't know who the 240 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: starter is going to be, and you would think I 241 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: think you could easily argue that quarterback play would be 242 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: the biggest question mark going in whether it's going to 243 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: be a rookie and everything that comes along with starting 244 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback or a veteran with limited experience like 245 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: a Jay mccaron maybe or even Nathan Peterman. I would 246 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: say quarterback player would be the thing that I'd be 247 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: most conservative. Yeah, like doing this or I'm an hard 248 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: time getting my mind right now because yeah, because there's 249 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: no we can't talk about something we don't know about. Yeah, yeah, 250 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: obviously this is the question of the day and it 251 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: and it seems you know, uh, you know, laughable to 252 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: think about anything else because until this issue is solved, Um, 253 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: the Bills don't know what they're what they're gonna do. 254 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they're their roster's gonna take a different turn. 255 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: Everything's going to be different. And so there's not only 256 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: the ripple effects of this story that came out this 257 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: morning are enormous for this, not for this or just 258 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: for this organization, but I think across the league, I 259 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: think teams are gonna this is gonna be put this, 260 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: put domestic violence right back on the front page of 261 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: their their concerns, and the rightfully so. In this case. 262 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: So um yeah, I mean it was this caught has 263 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: caught a lot of people off guard. Um, it's it's shocking, 264 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean you're not turning the page at all, 265 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, anything else and always try to Yeah, I 266 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: mean it's uh yeah, it's gonna be hard. We we're 267 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: gonna I'll be I'll be anxious to get some other 268 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: people on the show, some guests on the show to 269 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: talk about what we were going to talk about before 270 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: this hit. But um, yeah, I can't. Yeah, I can't 271 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: wait for the next for the next story to pop 272 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: up after this one, because this is an ugly one. 273 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: So um yeah, I'm I'm yeah, this bothers me. I 274 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta be answers. I want to know the truth, 275 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: for the truth to emerge, and do want to know 276 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: the truth, and this is uh um yeah, it's almost 277 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: impossible to get your mind around because all of us 278 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: have known and respected the guy, and to have this happen, 279 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: being having be accused of this is pretty it's pretty sobering. 280 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Nothing official yet, no accusations made by any police department, 281 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: yet may happen. We don't know, I don't know. We 282 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: have pictures, Internet pictures. Um is all of the evidence 283 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: so far. Maybe more coming, who knows. Yeah, I'm sir, 284 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: yeah you know more is coming. I mean the truth 285 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: will come out, so we'll see. But um, but for 286 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: you and me, Murph, I'm glad, I'm I'm I'm, I'm 287 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: glad I'm sitting next to you. That's all I can 288 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: say is because you're see for one thing, we kind 289 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: of laugh about it. I've always said you're the voice 290 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: of logic and reason and I need some of that 291 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: right now because I'm about to I'm ready to fly 292 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: off the handle and I can't. I'm trying to stop 293 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: from doing it. So uh, and that I'm glad. I'm 294 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: glad you can tie me to the chair and not 295 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: let me kneed your my way to the floor. U. 296 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting because you know, we we had. Uh, it's 297 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: unbelievable how stuff like this happens because we had, we 298 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: were It's caught everybody off guard. So I know a 299 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna want to talk about this 300 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: is the overriding, but we gotta be honest, we don't 301 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: know anything. And uh, we're as upset about it as 302 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: anybody out there. UM, who's listening, to us, so we'll 303 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: kind of hang in there with you and if you 304 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: want to call and talk to call and talk to us. Um, 305 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: but things are gonna change for the time being, and 306 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: uh well just we're gonna have to ride this wave 307 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: of uncertainty until it until we find out what's going on. 308 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, it's yeah, I that you talk about 309 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: training camp starting a couple of weeks nothing, you know, 310 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you don't want to talk about I 311 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: can't talk about anything. But because this I know this 312 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: is and the frustrating thing is just what you've said. 313 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: We don't know anything. This got dropped on the lap 314 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: of everybody involved this morning about a half hour ago, 315 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: and we don't know what it means. We don't know 316 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: if it's if it turned out to be just some 317 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: crazy or whether it's as serious as it sounds. So yeah, 318 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: you gotta wait and see. And we got to do 319 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: three hours not about that. Yeah, yeah, do three hours. 320 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: We we gotta do three hours not knowing what's going on, 321 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: which is fine, We do that. No, seriously, that's our job. 322 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: That's why you get paid, by the way. That's let 323 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: me try this, Steve, as I try to try it. Again. Move, 324 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: let me move you to something else. And this just 325 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: came up in the last half hour. I don't know 326 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: if you even saw this. We didn't talk about this 327 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: because we're talking about the other thing, right. NFL Players 328 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Association announcing moments ago in the last hour, they've filed 329 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: a grievance against the NFL's new national anthem policy. This one, 330 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: it's controversial too. This one will not make you feel good. 331 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: In a statement, the NFL Players Association says the league 332 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: agreed to hold discussions and hopes of finding a mutual solution. 333 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: The statement in full reads, quote, this is the union now. 334 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Our union filed it's non injury grievance today on behalf 335 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: of all players challenging the league's recently imposed anthem policy. 336 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: The unions claim is that this new policy, imposed by 337 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: the NFL's governing body without consultation with the players Association, 338 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: is inconsistent with the collective Bargaining Agreement and infringes on 339 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: player rights. Goes on to say one more paragraph. In 340 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: advance of our filing today, we propose to the NFL 341 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: to begin confidential discussions within the NFLPA Executive Committee to 342 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: find a solution to this issue instead of immediately proceeding 343 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: with litigation, the NFL has agreed to proceed with those discussions. 344 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: We look forward to starting them soon. So I guess 345 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: the good news is they're not litigating. They're not it's 346 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: not an injunction request to try to get the anthem policy, 347 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: the new anthem policy where if you're not going to stand, 348 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: the league wants you to stay in the locker room. 349 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: It's instead more meetings to come up the non injury 350 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: grievance filed by the NFLPA, and they say the NFL 351 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: has agreed to proceed with confidential discussions to find a solution, 352 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: which I think is Okay, you know, let's get to it. 353 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: Let's find the solution. Right when the new anthem policy 354 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: came out at what the May meetings, that talked about 355 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: if you're not gonna stand, if you prefer to neil, 356 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: you should stay in the locker room. Immediately, some people 357 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: thought that was inconsistent with not just the league and 358 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: its standing policy, but took away some player rights. Okay, 359 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Let the lawyers figure 360 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: that out, but at least they're going to talk about 361 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: the right way to do this. And keep in mind, 362 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: and we know this to be true, this issue is 363 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: not going away. By the end of last year, I 364 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: think I read a number today there were about a 365 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: dozen NFL players by the end of last season who 366 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: elected to neil during the national anthem. Just twelve among 367 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: the fifteen hundred players in the National Football League. Just twelve. 368 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: Not a whole lot. But it's gonna happen again, mostly 369 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: because there are political issues in play, including a midterm 370 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: election in November, that will bring this to the forefront again. 371 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: And there's still time to find a work couple solution. 372 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I think that involves the players Association and the league, 373 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: and so for that reason, even with the grievance filed, 374 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: I look forward to more discussion between the union and 375 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: the league as to how to get this done and 376 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: how to stand how to deal with the inevitable political 377 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: pressure and comments that will come up this fall. Yeah, 378 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: and that's the way you'd like to see it, always 379 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: hand every issue in the NFL between the players and 380 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: the ownership handle just sit down and talk it out. Yeah, 381 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to see a workstopics. We've already got 382 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: rumblings that when this CBA comes to an end that 383 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, the players are gonna walk, you know, strike, 384 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: or there's gonna be a lockout, there's gonna be a 385 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: work stoppage. As we've seen a couple of times in 386 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. I was part of an eighty seven players 387 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: right where we left for a month and then came 388 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: back and that the union actually had it was a long, 389 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: sordid process, very acrimonious, where it ended up being that 390 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: the union had to decertify so that there was no 391 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: union at all, and then the NFL was caught then 392 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: finally and had to step up to the table and 393 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: start talking things over. But that was a long that 394 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: was a you know, a thirty six month process to 395 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: go through all of that, and guy's careers were changed 396 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: and different guys were in different spots in their lives 397 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: by the time that finally got to taken care of. 398 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: But you know, in this the the NFL, I think 399 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: the PA is doing the right thing by listen, listen. 400 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: We don't want to litigate. We've got certainly grounds to litigate, 401 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: but you know, let's talk it out because this is 402 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: an issue that the league needs to get right. And 403 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: like I've said, time and time. Again, the league gets 404 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: just about every issue right, but sometimes it takes too 405 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: long to get it right. We waited a long time 406 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: for him to do it. So this would be one 407 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: of those things where finally they do kind of something 408 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: that they should have been doing a long time Agoing 409 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: is talking this over between the people who actually have 410 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: something to say about it, so we'll see a grievance 411 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: filed discussions to come and from my perspective, time to 412 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: get something done that. Uh. Look, it's not going to 413 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: satisfy everybody. I'm not that I even to think it will, 414 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: but at least though it would be a united front 415 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: against the most likely the assaults coming the NFL's way 416 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: from various sides about what to do during the anthem um. 417 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to find a solution. They don't have one yet. 418 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: The guy sitting next to me here, Steve Tasker, is 419 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: fond of seeing the league eventually gets it right. And 420 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: I think in this case, I hope you're right about that. Yeah, 421 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: And I don't you know, I'm one of those guys. 422 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm kind of an old I'll call me whatever you want. 423 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm an old guy. You know, you stand up and 424 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: put your hand on your heart and uh, I don't 425 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: know if I ever put my hand on, but I 426 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: certainly stood still and sang along with the anthem during 427 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: my playing days. But then again, I wasn't you know. 428 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: I grew up in a in a different place than 429 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: a lot of my fellow teammates did, and a lot 430 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: of the guys playing today I did, and I wasn't 431 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: treated the same way they were for for the obvious reasons. 432 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: So I get it. But you know, this is UH 433 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: is something they're gonna have to deal with, and I 434 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: think the players have got it. And it's gonna be 435 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: hard too, because you got, like you said, he's sixteen 436 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: hundred players on a Sunday that is stand up and 437 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: UH and make their paw and make their beliefs known 438 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 1: by either standing or kneeling. And it's gonna be up 439 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: to them ultimately, and whether the union says it or not, 440 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: you're still gonna have guys that are going to disagree 441 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: with it because there's just too many voices. And that's 442 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: the way it isn't the owner's meeting too, there's only 443 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: thirty two of them, and those owners disagree on this 444 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: stuff too, so it'll it's uh, you know, I I 445 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: sooner or later, I'm telling you every player in the 446 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: NFL is going to stand up, and they're gonna stand 447 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: up the same way because the league is gonna want 448 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: it that way, and the union will get something for 449 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: it if if that's what it takes. But I think 450 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: that's exactly what's going to happen, all right, And now 451 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: back to Shady McCoy for a moment. An Instagram post. 452 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: This came about the result of an Instagram post by 453 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: a woman that we don't know who she is. McCoy. 454 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: Shady McCoy on his verifying Instagram account just posted this, 455 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: which is interesting. For the record, this is Shady McCoy. 456 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: The totally baseless and offensive claims made against me today 457 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: on social media are completely false. Furthermore, I have not 458 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: had any direct contact with any of the people involved 459 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: in months. I don't know what that means, but there 460 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: it is. That's McCoy's Instagram response to the allegations made 461 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Which is why it's early to be making 462 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: up your mind about what this is or what this means. 463 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, we had a on Twitter Twitter notification from 464 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: somebody called d K says one of goes live just 465 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: deciding not to speak about Lashawn McCoy allegations. There's nothing 466 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: else to talk about. State run Radio twenty two minutes 467 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: after the hour. We probably spent eighteen of those twenty 468 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: two minutes talking about McCoy. What do you mean we're 469 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: not talking about it? Yeah, State run Radio. Shape what 470 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: you want, but don't tell her what We just spent 471 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: the bulk of the last twenty two minutes talking about it. 472 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: Are you listening or just you know, hitting something on Twitter? 473 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: This is why situations like this, Steve, Twitter becomes not 474 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: just meaningless, it becomes stupid. It's like it's a way 475 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: for feeble minded people to issue an opinion without even 476 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: thinking about what's been reported, what it means. Is it true? 477 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: Is it not true? But because you gotta have an 478 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: instant opinion, which is why we've talked about it, we 479 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: probably will talk about McCoy again today, but none of 480 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: us me you people on Twitter, DK on Twitter, you 481 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: have no idea what the truth is here, So everything 482 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: you say is meaningless. Yeah, and that's and Shady has 483 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: come out and said and made a statement it's totally baseless. 484 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: He hasn't had any direct contact with any of the 485 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: people involved with these allegations for months though. That's from 486 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: his account, his Instagram accounts. So I'm sure, but that's 487 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: where this stands right now. Sure, I mean that's yeah, 488 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: that's where it is. Now he's now it's he said, 489 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: she said, And that's a Those pictures are bad. But 490 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: if he says he hasn't had anything to do with 491 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: these people in months, well, now you smell a rat. 492 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: Now what do we do? Now? What do you do? Yeah? 493 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Now what do you do? Um? So it'll be interesting 494 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: to see and I don't know that it'll ever change 495 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: the face of social media, but this is what always 496 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: happens when something like this happens. It's a first thing 497 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: is wow, it's awful. That's a horrible thing. And you 498 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: can imagine what social media has been doing to Shady 499 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: McCoy's timeline and mentions today. They've been crushing him, and 500 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: rightfully so because of these obvious But now until you 501 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: know it to be true though, that's my ful. And 502 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: if he has any if he has any proof of 503 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: like he was someplace or whatever, if he can say listen, 504 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: here's where you know and it comes out that it 505 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: was all totally baseless. I don't know that that's even 506 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: gonna change. Um, you know how the internet. You know, 507 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: it's not gonna change how the internet works. We still 508 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: everybody still flies off the handle. He's still gonna have 509 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: to deal He's gonna have to deal with this for week, 510 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: even if it's completely not true, even even say I 511 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: was in another state at the time, I don't even know. 512 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: That's that's the problem with this whole thing. And that's 513 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: why you know, we were so reluctant to start in 514 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: with this. You know, at the top of the show, 515 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: we had to say something because it was horrific the 516 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: way it looked. And now Lashawan McCoy said, I haven't 517 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: had any direct contact with any of these people in months. 518 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: That's pretty categorical. Forty five minutes since the news broke 519 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: approximately we don't know a whole lot about it. Do 520 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: we want to open up the phone lines and let 521 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: people just vent and say what they think it means. 522 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: I think that's meaningless. I think that's believing. That's not 523 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: protecting anybody. I just think it's it's stupid. If it's 524 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: if it's false, if the allegations are false, it's so 525 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: a waste of time. So we're gonna here's the thing, 526 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: and you can disagree with me. See, I'd propose we 527 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: continue on with our show, as disturbing as the allegations are, 528 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: as horrific as the picture is, not knowing whether it's 529 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: true or false the allegations at McCoy, my suggestion is 530 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: we proceed with our show with our three guests coming 531 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: up with some of the other discussion. All right, yeah, 532 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: we can do it. He's hey, he's categorically denied it, 533 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: and he said he wasn't there. He hasn't had any 534 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: direct in contact with any these people for months. All 535 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: that's where it stands now. So we'll see. How do 536 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: you like doing the show? Wow? Especially when it happens minutes? Man, 537 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: do I wish I was on a golf course? Oh 538 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: my gosh. We're oh my gosh. Yeah, we're gonna take 539 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: a break. We're coming back with more in a moment. 540 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: It is One Bill's Live presented by collatda Health, Where 541 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: Live and One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Back 542 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: on the air with One Bill's Live presented by Callid 543 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: of Health, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, coming here from our 544 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: one Buffalo Studio right next door to new Airfield. You know, 545 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: we take shots sometime on the TV side of a 546 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: newer field. Pretty soon it looks like some nimber gonna 547 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: work going on on the ribbon scoreboard there, Steve, as 548 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: we look at it, I don't know what they're doing that. 549 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta look more into that, Hey, before 550 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: we move through the show too much more, Steve, I 551 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: want to send out a special allow to a loyal 552 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: listener and viewer to the show. A golfer, Walter Clock, 553 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: who plays every Monday at Kissing Greens in the town 554 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: of Alden. Shot of fifty seven yesterday and you're thinking, 555 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: so what fifty seven for nine holes? Here's the deal. 556 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: Walter Clock is one hundred years old and he plays 557 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: every Monday. His buddy Timmy O'shi, told me about him today. 558 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: They play every Monday. Walder Clock at Kissing Greens. He's 559 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: one hundred years old, pays attention to our show, misses 560 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: the show on Monday so we can go out and 561 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: tear it up on the golf course. Good for him, 562 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: keep going, Wald one hundred. You think you'll be playing 563 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: when you're a hundred? What will you be doing. You'll 564 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: be running track and doing. If I'm breathing when I'm 565 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: one hundred, it's a victory. This weekend coming to Buffalo 566 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: in Western New York, the annual Convention of the Pro 567 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: Football Researchers Association National Convention, coming to Buffalo. Researchers into 568 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: pro football from all over the country. We're happy to 569 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: about have on the line with us right now the 570 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: Assistant Executive director of the Pro Football Researchers Association, George Bozica, 571 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 1: George John Murphy, and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thank 572 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: you very much for joining us. Thank you for having me. 573 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: Tell us about the Pro Football Researchers Association. What is 574 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: this group? Where are these guys people? The Pro Football 575 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: Research Association was actually founded in nineteen seventy nine at 576 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame by a group of historians. 577 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: I've been in existence for you know, nearly forty years. 578 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Next year i'll be our fortieth anniversary. And basically we 579 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: preserve and reconstruct pro football history. We have a publication 580 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: that comes out six times a year called The cop 581 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: in Cornered as articles about various aspects of pro football history. 582 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: We also just recently started a series of books on 583 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: great teams in pro football history. We did a book 584 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: in twenty and sixteen on the nineteen sixty six Green 585 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: Bay Packers of Lombardi Packers. This year we did a 586 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: book on the fifty eight Colts, the team that won 587 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: the greatest game ever played over the Giants. We're currently 588 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: just starting on a book on the fifty one Rams. 589 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: It'll come out in twenty twenty one, and in twenty 590 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: twenty four we're going to show a little Love the Buffalo. 591 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: We're going to do a book on the sixty four 592 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: Bills Cool. We also a number of our members are 593 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, historians researchers published a number of books. If 594 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: a book's been published on pro football history has probably 595 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: come from one of our members. We have three hundred 596 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: and seventy one members nationwide and in seven countries, So 597 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of the background of the group. 598 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: How does one become a member and what sort of 599 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: credentials do you have to have to be a Pro 600 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: Football researcher. You know, anybody that loves pro football history 601 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: can be a member. You can go on our website. 602 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: It's Pro Football Researchers dot org. Click on the members 603 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: link and you can become a member. If you're in 604 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: the United States, it's thirty five dollars a year. Canada, 605 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: I believe is forty. Uh since I no, Buffalo's real 606 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: close to Canada, but uh yeah, that's that's basically all 607 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: you have to do is have a love for pro 608 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: football history. What's your agenda for this week? Georgia, George, Yeah, 609 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: so what's your what's your agenda for this week and 610 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: your meetings here in Buffalo. Yeah, this is our We 611 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: have a convention every other year. Uh. The last couple 612 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: of conventions we were in Canton in two thousand and ten, 613 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: New York in two thousand and twelve, uh, Cleveland and 614 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: fourteen and in sixteen we were in Green Day. We 615 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: usually pick us NFL city that has, you know, a 616 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: great background of history. For this year, we picked Buffalo because, 617 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean Buffalo just has a rich, you know, pro 618 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: football history going all the way back to the twenties, uh, 619 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: with the you know Buffalo all Americans, and then in 620 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: the AFC, the AFL, and the NFL. So we picked Buffalo. 621 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a two day convention we have we use 622 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: in byte uh Art is celebrating Buffalo sports history. So 623 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: we've invited a number of former Bills, some former Bills 624 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: front office people and current front office people. We also 625 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: have some of our own numbers to give presentations. We're 626 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: having it at the Buffalo History Museum. We're going to 627 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: be getting a tour at their Icons exhibit. Also, we're 628 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: going to be having a behind the scenes tour of 629 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: Greg Tranter's memorabilia collection on Saturday on Friday afternoon, which 630 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: is obviously the source of the Icons exhibit On Sunday, 631 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: and add on activity, we're getting to tour a new 632 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: era of field. So it's basically a jam Tech weekend 633 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: of football history and presentations. Well, you've got Greg Tranter 634 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: and his collection is amazing. His knowledge of Buffalo sports history, 635 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: including Bills history, is encyclopedic, and I would he's got 636 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: like a special behind the scenes tour of his Icons exhibit. 637 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Yeah, for early arrivals on 638 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: Friday from three to five at the History or at 639 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: the History Museum Resource Center, we're gonna have a behind 640 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: the scenes story And yeah, you're absolutely right. I've seen 641 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: great exhibit and I was just or great collection. I 642 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: was just blown away. I mean, I couldn't believe some 643 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: of the stuff that he has in that collection. It's 644 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: just amazing what he has put together over the years. 645 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: And as you said, he just has an amazing knowledge 646 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: of of you know, Buffalo sports history. It's just amazing. 647 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: Talk to us a little bit about the different forms 648 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: of history. Do you video written word? I mean a 649 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: lot of it early early days was probably just the 650 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: written word by all the writers and stuff. What about 651 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit about the paraphernalia as well. 652 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have a headquarters where you store 653 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: this some of this stuff or is it? Is it 654 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: strictly a published word? It's strictly published work. You can 655 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: find some things on our website. We have sort of 656 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: a member's only section where you can get a lot 657 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: of great information. As I said, we put out the 658 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: publication six times a year. We research things that The 659 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: Coppin Corner you know, not only covers you know, pro 660 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: football in the United States, but we also cover uh, 661 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, the CFL. We've done some articles on Europe, 662 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: We've done some articles on minor league football. We even 663 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: had an article about women's pro football recently. Um so, 664 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: uh you know amazingly. You know, I don't think much 665 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: of minor league pro football now, but you know, there 666 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: was a time when minor league pro football was was 667 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: a big deal, especially on the West Coast before you know, 668 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: the Rams and you know, the West Coast team started 669 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: to settle out there. So it's mostly written words through 670 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: through articles, research and and and books. We also have 671 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: done some interviews, so we do have some interviews also online. 672 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: You know, we tried to interview uh uh, you know, 673 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: anybody to associated whether it's former players or people that 674 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: are associated with the game. On the line with George 675 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: Mozikee is executive director Assistant executive director of the Pro 676 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Football Researchers Association, coming to Buffalo for their bi annual 677 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: convention this weekend at the Buffalo History Museum. I love 678 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: the guest list you have for speakers, all of them, 679 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: you know Buffalo theme speakers, including people like Booker, Edgerson, 680 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: Abe Edda Bromowski, the long time trainer here, and one 681 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: of Steve's former teammates, Thurman Thomas. Right, he's going to 682 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: be a speaker this weekend as well. Yeah, he's going 683 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: to be our speaker on Saturday. We have you what 684 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: we do on Saturdays. We have a business meeting for 685 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: the first a couple of hours and then Thurman is 686 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: going to speak right after that. We were really happy 687 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: that we were able to get Thurman to come in 688 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: and speak, and we're looking forward to having him. What 689 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: throughout the year do you have other meeting? I know 690 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: this is your annual meeting. Do you have get together 691 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: as you have a Is there like a like other 692 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: associations as their local chapters that kind of thing? And 693 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: are there any local people or how many local members 694 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo and Buffalo region are there? Yeah, we 695 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: have quite a few members in the Buffalo area and 696 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: actually we do have a strong chapter in Buffalo. We 697 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: have some other chapters two in other parts of the country, 698 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: but the Buffalo chapter is particularly strong. And UH. For 699 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: the last few years they've done a annual UH sort 700 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: of mini UH seminar of speakers. UH. This this this 701 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: most recent year, we had UH Lou Paccone came in 702 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: who played for the Bills and also for the Jets 703 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: UM and we had some other speakers at that. But 704 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: UH the year before that, Jeff Mixon, who played for 705 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: the Bills, came and spoke so yeah, we we do 706 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: have some local chapters that have done things also our 707 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: chapter up in Wisconsin. Uh, they've had some meetings also 708 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: also on the East coast in the Philadelphia, New York area. 709 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, we definitely have you know, some sort of 710 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: satellite champers that do things on throughout the year. And George, 711 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned the plans in the in the works for 712 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: a book about Bill's history, about the sixty four AFL 713 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: championship team. Who writes it? How do you guys? How 714 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: do you put that together? What we do is I've 715 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: acted as the lead editor. We call it, as I said, 716 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: the great great teams in pro football history. Uh. And 717 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: basically what we do is we reach out to the members. 718 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: We we we sort of decide, you know, what topics 719 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: we want to do in regard to that. Uh, you know, 720 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: we try to pick historic teams. Uh. The Rams were 721 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: the choice for the next book, the fifty one Rams, 722 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: because quite frankly, it was a great team that you know, 723 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: just a whole lot hadn't been done about with Bob 724 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: Waterfield and Run Van Brockl and Crazy Lakes Hirsch. Uh, 725 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, they wanted a championship in fifty one but 726 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: they were also in the championship game for four out 727 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: of six years plus when they were in Cleveland before 728 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 1: they came to Los Angeles. They wanted a championship, so 729 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: that was our choice. And what we do is we 730 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: basically I put together basically a list of topics, and 731 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: what we do is we cover every player that's on 732 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: the team. We do mini bials of every player. We 733 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: do game summaries of every game, including the champtionship game. 734 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: We cover front office people like the owner or anybody 735 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: that's that's key to the front office. We cover how 736 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: the teams were built. We also covered the draft for 737 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: that year, and we also cover key media people. So 738 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: so we try to do a little bit of everything. 739 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: And we with with the Packers and the Colts, we 740 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: did two NFL teams. Obviously the Rams were also an 741 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: NFL team. We wanted to broaden our horizons and do 742 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: a strictly AFL team, so that's why we picked the Bills. 743 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: And you know, we debated back and forth between the 744 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: sixty four Bills or the nineties Bills U and even 745 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: though the nineties Bills didn't win a championship, we still 746 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: felt the fact that you know, they were two four 747 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: contecutive Super Bowls, made them one of the great teams. 748 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: So we finally decided to go with the AFL because 749 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: we wanted to do something AFL related. So that's sort 750 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: of what the genesis is and how we put it together. 751 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: Then we reach out to members. Members basically give me 752 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: their preferences, basically assigned the topics, they write them, we 753 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: edit them and us and publish it. At the end 754 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: of the day this book comes out. When would you 755 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: think the fifty eight Colts book is going to have 756 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: it's the official Uh, it's already been published, but it's 757 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: going to have as its official unveiling at the convention. Uh. 758 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: And then as I said, the Rams Book, which we're 759 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: just starting the first process on that that will be published, 760 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: where our goal is two thousand and twenty one, and 761 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: then twenty and twenty four for the Bills book. I 762 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: guess the one more thing about this weekend I want 763 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: to ask you about is the behind the scenes tour 764 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: here a new air of field. What do you think 765 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: that'll be all about? How how will that go? What 766 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: are you guys going to look at when you come 767 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: out here? You know, I've been in touch with the 768 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: Bills are basically going to be giving us a tour 769 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: of the stadium and as I understand the training facility. 770 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: I when I was in town sort of doing some planning, Uh, 771 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: Greig took me out to this site. I'm from the 772 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 1: I'm from mac and so originally from Canton. So I'm 773 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: from the Cleveland area. So my whole you know, Profoibo 774 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: experience has been with the Cleveland Browns. But I was 775 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: really liked where the Bills Stadium is in Orchard Part. 776 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: I just like the site and everything else. So you know, 777 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to We're going to be getting a 778 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: ninety minute tour. The pro shop's going to be over 779 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: if anybody wants to pick up any you know, philos 780 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: paraphernalia afterwards. So that's what it is. And this has 781 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: been sort of something that we tried to do on 782 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: each convention. When we were in Cleveland, we got a 783 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 1: tour of First Energy Field, When we were in Green 784 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: Day we got a tour lambau Field. So we always 785 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: try to include a stadium tour in, uh, you know, 786 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: with our our convention. You know what I like about 787 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: this weekends convention come among the many things I like 788 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: about this weekends convention. Come in a buffalo. Everyone's invited, 789 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: right for a for a price, you can come and 790 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: listen to some of these talk about that, if you would, George, 791 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: and what our listeners might want to do to get involved. Yeah, 792 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: if there's any members that are listening, Oh, George, well 793 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: now we gotta get We're gonna back up, Yeah, George, 794 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: area tell us again. If folks are listening they want 795 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: to get involved, what can they do? Sure, if there's 796 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: any numbers of the group out there that have already reserve, 797 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: they can go on our website, Pro Football Researchers dot org. 798 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: Just click on the conventional link and it's forty dollars 799 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: for members for the additional tours. That's an additional fifteen 800 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: dollars for the two add ons, the Behind the Scenes 801 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: Store and the New Era of Field tour. For non members, 802 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: it's ninety dollars. But just to make it a little 803 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: more economical, if you become a member for thirty five 804 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: dollars plus pay the forty dollars, you say fifteen dollars 805 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: on that. And we're just asking that people are interested, 806 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: that they try their best to make their reservations by 807 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day Thursday, so and the convention 808 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: starts on Friday. Okay, good stuff, gonna be great. Hey, 809 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: thank you very much George for coming with us. Hope 810 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: you guys have a great weekend. I keep saying, guys, 811 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: I'd imagine you have some female members right of the 812 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: Researchers Association. Oh, we do, definitely. Yeah, that's that's on me. 813 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: That's my bed. Thanks George, have a great time this weekend. Okay, thanks, Okay. 814 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: George Zika, Assistant executive director of the Pro Football Researches Association. 815 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: Their twenty eighteen convention is coming to Buffalo. You can 816 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: go if you're a Bills fan, I mean, you know 817 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: what you need. You need a rainy weekend, which I'm 818 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: not rooting for. But if you're a Bills fan you 819 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: want to know more about the team history, this is 820 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: the place to go. You can check out their website. 821 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: It's Pro Football Researchers dot org. They've got all the 822 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: information you need about the convention, this week, schedule of events, 823 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: and how you can you can take part. I think 824 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. What do you think? Yeah, and 825 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: I think the fact they go back and chronicle all 826 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: this whole stuff, and a lot of stuff, particularly the 827 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: old AFL stuff, is kind of long forgotten because the 828 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: NFL has become so big in the eight hundred pound gerrilla, 829 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: so all the kind of the pre nineteen you know, 830 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: sixties stuff. Yeah, it's all overlooked because the AFL became 831 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: part of the NFL. And but you know, going back 832 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: and you know our own here in Buffalo, Billy Shaw 833 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: is the only player that played his entire career in 834 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: the AFL and now is in the Pro Football Hall 835 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: of Fame. So you know, a little little connection there 836 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: to West in New York. But yeah, it's it's kind 837 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: of neat to see. And I don't know, I don't 838 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: know what the first thing about, you know, how they 839 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: do their job, but it's fun to hear the stories 840 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: they can glean off of the old clippings and the 841 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: old archives. And you know, everybody keeps that stuff. I mean, 842 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: every newspaper and every printed in, which was all it 843 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: was back then. It's all kept somewhere, and if you 844 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: go back and you want to go back and look 845 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: at it, it's kind of got to be your thing, 846 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: I guess. But cool and read the book. Maybe they 847 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: make you see the movie like all of us want 848 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: to do, right, Yeah, we see the movies to read 849 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: the book. We welcome them here and we hope they 850 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: have a great visit here to Buffalo and get a 851 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: lot of work done and learn more about about Bill's 852 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: franchise history. The Pro Football Researchers Association Convention coming to 853 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo this weekend. Starts on Friday, July thirteenth Saturday July fourteenth, 854 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 1: and go to their website for more information Pro Football 855 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: Researchers Dot org. Steve and I back with more in 856 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: just a moment. One Bill's Live presented by Collat of 857 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 858 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, One Bill's Live from One 859 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio. 860 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: We're two and a half weeks away from the start 861 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: of training camp. As a discussion point today, we wanted 862 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: to bring this up. What are you most concerned with 863 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: about the Buffalo Bills going into the season. The news 864 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: of the day we'll get to in a second. But 865 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: aside from that, because we don't know how true false, right, 866 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: I mean, how can you say I'm most concerned with that. Well, sure, 867 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: that is the most concerning thing, and that, of course 868 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: is little Shawn McCoy. Allegations. McCoy accused on Instagram by 869 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: an unknown person we don't know who. She is, accused 870 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: of beating his girlfriend, according to an Instagram post. McCoy 871 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: denied the allegations moments later, seeing for the record, the 872 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: totally baseless and offensive claims made against me today on 873 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: social media are completely false. Bills are aware of the allegations, 874 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: looking into it. Other than that, we don't don't know 875 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: anything about this. Um, so how does that impact the season? 876 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: It does if true? Obviously it could if true, but 877 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's true or false or where 878 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: it goes. Yeah, and he's uh, it's come out. He's 879 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: denied it obviously or this at this early stage and 880 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: categorically denied it. Um. And Uh, the Instagram that accused 881 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: him said this was I believe this was yesterday. They 882 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: said it happened this last night. I mean it happened 883 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. Um. And he maintains that 884 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't had any contact with any of these people 885 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: for months. Um, that's it wants somebody's lying. Uh, and 886 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: that's going to come out pretty quickly, I would think 887 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: when when authorities get involved, if which they no doubt will, Um, 888 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: so it'll uh, we're gonna find out. And right now 889 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: we're just waiting for that shoe to drop whichever. It 890 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: is not likely to drop today, not today, not before 891 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: we you know, get out of here. But um yeah, 892 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: there's no question that all of a sudden, the Twitter 893 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: question we had, which was what he most worried about, 894 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: has changed change dramatically in the last hour and a half. 895 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: So you know, we'll still I mean, we're still out there. 896 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're not gonna dodge it. But there's not 897 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: much we can talk about because you know, you go 898 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: on social media and that there's people just like us. 899 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: They know less than we do, and right or wrong, 900 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: they're not in doubt. So um, you know, it's we 901 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: just have to wait, and it's uh, that's the frustrating 902 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: part of it. And it's a lot like we were 903 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: we were all happy, go lucky yesterday looking forward to 904 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: training camp and we were like, oh my god, so 905 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: we couldn't wait to get to the season. And now, 906 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: um yeah, now we got something else to talk about 907 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: for sure, and it's uh, yeah, it's gonna be the 908 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: topic of probably of the topic of the next few 909 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 1: days see if we can until we can sort this out. 910 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: But you know, both sides have been heard from, and 911 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: now we're gonna have to wait and see who who 912 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: blinks first. I don't know who's gonna I don't know. 913 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: We don't know what the truth is. Nope, we don't 914 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: what the truth is that you know, the truth is 915 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: that there's a certainly the pictures are graphic and somebody 916 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: got hurt badly. Uh, and that's gonna be that's gonna 917 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: be the question of what happened. Let run this by 918 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: Steve totally different topic, all right. A couple of weeks ago, 919 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: tera Owens announced that he would not go to Canton, 920 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: Ohio for the August fourth induction of the Pro Football 921 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. You and I kind of flew off 922 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: the handle that day, both of us upset about that. 923 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 1: So to now, as of just a couple of days ago, 924 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: says that he's going to celebrate his induction into the 925 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in Chattanooga, Tennessee, where he played college football. 926 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 1: He will not attend the induction ceremony in Canton, Ohio. 927 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna give his acceptance speech at his alma mater. 928 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: Here's the quote from TiO. I've decided to give my 929 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame speech at the University of Chattanooga and 930 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee at Chattanoga McKenzie Arena Saturday, August fourth, at three 931 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: seventeen pm. That's the day that that night, August fourth, 932 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: when the new inductees, including TiO, will be enshrined in Canton. Again. 933 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a slap in the face from TiO. 934 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: So he's gonna he's gonna give his acceptance speech. For 935 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: anybody else his call, all right, couldn't wait, couldn't go 936 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: to Canton, couldn't wait. He's going to give his acceptance speech. 937 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: The the narrative about Tio's decision is that he was 938 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: upset that he had to wait, that he was not 939 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: a first year, first ballot Hall of Famer. He could 940 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: be upset if he wants, but he's going in the 941 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and he is, I think, putting himself 942 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: before every one of those Hall of famers going in 943 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: this year, including you know, some all time greats. He 944 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: is separating himself from everybody else who's gone in the 945 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame by doing it a different way. 946 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: I just think it's class lest by Terrell Owens. So 947 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: it's not criminal. I think it's classless. I really don't 948 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: like him. Yeah, it's Yeah, on a lot of levels, 949 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't like it, but you know, it sets a 950 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: bad precedent. I'd like to know what his real reasoning 951 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: is behind it. I don't know why he's choosing not 952 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: to be a part of the induction class that he is, 953 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 1: because I think it's it says something about I don't 954 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: know what is Yeah, I mean I don't know why 955 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a part of that inductee 956 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: class of twenty and eighteen with all the other guys. 957 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 1: And there's some great guys in his class, and uh, 958 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's I think it says I think 959 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: it's disrespectful for them as well. Um, it's unfortunate. And 960 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: I and I was, I was mad. I was, you know, 961 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: pretty upset. Yes, you were more than me on the 962 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: on the day he came out with it, and I 963 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: still am, Um, Yeah, it's just sad. I think it's 964 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: a sad commentary on where he's at in his life. 965 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a sad uh commentary on what uh 966 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: the statement he wants to make about whatever statement that 967 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: might be about his being inducted into Pro Football Hall 968 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: of Fame. It's the highest honor the career he had, 969 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: it was a phenomenal career. I mean that, you can't 970 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: there's only one or two guys that can touch his 971 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: career on the field. Um Um, Certainly there were some 972 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: baggage that went along with it, no question. Um. A 973 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of other guys got in the Hall of Fame 974 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: that had a lot of baggage as well, but they 975 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: didn't they didn't refuse to show up in Canton. So 976 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm I feel bad for the guys now after I'm 977 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: I'm kind of cooled down over the last few weeks. 978 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, I have I feel bad for him. 979 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why what motivated him to have to 980 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: do this or to think he needed to do this, 981 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: but I think it's sad that nobody, there's nobody in 982 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: his life that can talk him out of this and 983 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: you know, to to go do what everybody else does 984 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: when they get in the Hall of Fame. I think it. 985 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: I think it absolutely detracts from from his induction not 986 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it enhances it. All Right, a break, 987 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: We're back with more. Jenny Brentass from Sports Illustrated and 988 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: the MMQB website's gonna join this talk about a variety 989 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: of NFL topics. You're welcome to join this as well. 990 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 1: Phone lines open, whatever you'd like to talk about. Eighth 991 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight 992 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve Tasker here, I'm 993 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: John Murphy. It's One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, 994 00:49:49,560 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio, the Hills Radio Networks. 995 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: Sports Update from One Bill's Drive. Reports out there about 996 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: Bill's running back. LaShaun McCoy on Instagram, he has been 997 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: accused of domestic assault, child abuse, animal abuse, sterio use, 998 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: accusations made in an Instagram post uploaded earlier today. McCoy 999 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: responded to the allegations quite quickly, saying, for the record, 1000 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: the totally baseless and offensive claims made against me today 1001 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: on social media are completely false. The Bills reportedly are 1002 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: aware of the situation. We have no further details on 1003 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: that about Lashawn McCoy. The allegations made just before we 1004 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: went on the air at twelve noon today. Meantime, the 1005 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: NFL Players Association is fouled the non injury grievance against 1006 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,919 Speaker 1: the league on behalf of players challenging the league's new 1007 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: anthem policy. The union says this new policy was instituted 1008 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: without consultation with the union. The two sides are going 1009 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: to talk. The NFL has agreed to proceed with discussions 1010 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: close confidential discussions as they try to find an answer 1011 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: to the anthem issues. The sailor of the Carolina Carolina Panthers, 1012 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 1: the head hedge fund billionaire David Tepper, took place sleep 1013 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: yesterday in the NFL record two point two seven five 1014 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: billion dollars Temper now officially takes over the day to 1015 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: day operations of the Panthers. It's official. Lebron James is 1016 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: now a Laker. The Lakers announced his signing last night 1017 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: as a free agent, confirming the shift. Lebron agreed to 1018 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: a four year deal with one hundred fifty three million 1019 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: dollars with the Lakers. The Tampa Bay Lightning have signed 1020 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 1: an eight year extension for winger Nikita Kucherov. The kicks 1021 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: in in twenty nineteen twenty twenty World Cup semi final 1022 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: and all European lineup being celebrated by the World Cup. 1023 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: Belgium and France play today in Saint Petersburg, Russia, two 1024 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon, then Croatian England meet tomorrow night in Moscow. 1025 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: It's the fifth time the last four teams left as 1026 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: featured on the European Teams and Serena Williams remains on 1027 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: a path for an eighth Wimbledon crown and a twenty 1028 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: fourth Grand Slam titles. She beat Italy's Community Georgie to 1029 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: reach the semifinals earlier today. That is the update from 1030 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker in our 1031 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: one Buffalo studio, joined right now by senior writer for 1032 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated and the MMQB. Happy to have our friend 1033 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: Jenny vrent Us on the line. Hi, Jenny, it's John 1034 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,439 Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker here. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, 1035 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. How are you guys. We're doing okay. 1036 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: We are troubled by the announcement or the news that 1037 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 1: broke just before we went on the air at noon. 1038 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have anything to add or 1039 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: if you have any reporting involved in the shady McCoy allegations. 1040 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: What do you make of that, Jenny, Yeah, I was 1041 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: just catching up on that a little bit. I saw 1042 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 1: that he put out a statement strongly denying it. On 1043 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: the other hand, you know, the photo that was posted 1044 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: was brutal and very jarring to see. So I think 1045 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: it's one of those situations where just would have to 1046 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: wait until more facts come out to be able to comment. 1047 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: I know in the seam and he said they hadn't 1048 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: been in touching months. So I think it's hard to 1049 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: have an opinion one where the other until more facts 1050 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: come out. Help me with this, Jenny, And I agree 1051 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: with you, by the way, I agree with you one 1052 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent, But it's not hard for regular people that 1053 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,760 Speaker 1: seems I have an opinion and to vent those opinions 1054 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: on social media instantly when something like that comes out 1055 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: without knowing the truth. I find that troubling. And maybe 1056 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm old fashioned, maybe I'm behind the times, but I 1057 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: just think there's there's a time when patience is called 1058 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 1: for when allegations are made like this, these very serious 1059 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: allegations are made, and yet people don't seem to many 1060 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: people don't seem to have that kind of patience. Yeah, 1061 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think before you have any kind of opinion, 1062 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,439 Speaker 1: you'd want to have all the facts. I think people 1063 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: are probably reacting to, you know, how jarring the photos are. 1064 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: I think there's another conversation too about just kind of 1065 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 1: posting that such a graphic photo of a victim on 1066 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: social media that can be hard for other victims to see, 1067 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, the victim herself, you know, you know, so 1068 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: I don't know all the circumstances, but um, there's a 1069 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: there's a lot to sift through, and um, you know, 1070 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what the Bills are doing and the 1071 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: NFL are going to do, And anytime just kind of 1072 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: allegation comes up, they'll have to sit through and figure 1073 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: out the facts for themselves and then decide how to 1074 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 1: move forward from there. Yeah. Jen, And this is that 1075 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: you wrote a loan article about what guys do in 1076 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: their off season. You see this and it's it's one 1077 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: of the things that I think the league is dealt 1078 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 1: with forever. I mean, you got got some guys in 1079 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 1: this article you wrote, Guys like Josh Norman, guys like 1080 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: uh you get down the list, mccordy the guys in 1081 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: New England who who emceed a political debate? I mean, 1082 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: you got a lot of guys doing a lot of things, 1083 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: but these stories seem to dominate the headlines. Why why 1084 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: is it that people are so interested in in la 1085 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: Shawn McCoy's story like this and and not what you know, 1086 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: so many other players are doing positive with their offseason, 1087 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: right like any you know, industry, there's well any group 1088 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: in life, there's going to be a mix of situations. 1089 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously, when a situation of domestic violence allegations 1090 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: or sexual assault allegations come up, you of course want 1091 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,399 Speaker 1: to take that conversation seriously and make sure that you're 1092 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 1: devoting at the proper attention. On the other hand, the 1093 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 1: majority of guys are not involved in situations like that. 1094 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: It's not there's not a higher incidence among the athlete population. 1095 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: It's just greater attention because they are public figures and 1096 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: there can be some good that comes out of that. 1097 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: I think increased awareness around these issues, increased awareness of 1098 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: resources for ums and how allegations like this should be 1099 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,479 Speaker 1: handled in any workplace um. You know. On the other hand, 1100 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: I think it's also important to highlight the things that 1101 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: players are doing in the communities and the good side 1102 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: of it too, which is was what one of the 1103 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: goals of the column was. You know, there's a lot 1104 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: of a lot of discussions going on, right and I 1105 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: think are often cast as one dimensional, and so I 1106 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: thought it would be important to show the actual tangible 1107 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: work that many players are doing in their communities. Jenny, 1108 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: I want to get to the good stuff, and I 1109 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: want to get to some of the individual examples you 1110 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: highlighted in your Monday Morning quarterback. But before we moved 1111 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: to that, just about a week and a half ago, 1112 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: you wrote a post for MMQB about Jamis Winston in 1113 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: the settlement what became a three game suspension for Winston 1114 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay, and you mentioned and the reason I 1115 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: bring it up now is because who knows where the 1116 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: McCoy thing goes, if there's going to be NFL discipline 1117 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: or not. But it seems like the league is not 1118 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: committed to the standard that they enacted after they finally 1119 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: got the Ray Rice situation settle. You know what I'm saying. 1120 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: You wrote about that, right, yeah, absolutely, And you know 1121 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: I thought that the Ezekiel Elliott case, it seemed like 1122 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: the league was moving in a direction of kind of 1123 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: holding fast to that six game standard. Yeah, you know, 1124 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 1: even though he didn't face charges, they said they consulted 1125 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: with the district attorney, and they found a woman to 1126 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: be credible, and they relied on her accounts and data. 1127 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: They collected other evidence, and they went with the six 1128 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: games suspension and held fast. And so then to see 1129 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: the Jamis Winston settlement down to three games was surprising 1130 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: because in the policy allows for mitigating factors, but in 1131 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: his case it seems like, if anything, they were aggravating factors. 1132 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: And so it's so important to have consistent standard. And 1133 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: I think that's where the frustrations with the application of 1134 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: the policy lie, is that they seem to be all 1135 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: over the map, and you never know exactly you know, 1136 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: what the punishment is going to be, what punishment is 1137 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: going to be, loving there aren't clear expectations, and I 1138 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: think when you make a compromise with a player like 1139 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: they did in the case of Jamis Winston, you kind 1140 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: of undermine the policy. You have supposed to have a 1141 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: baseline of six games and listen, it's always awkward to 1142 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: focus on how many games equates to bad behavior off 1143 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: the field. But I think when you reduce it in 1144 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: half for a player who's allegations in the past, I 1145 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: think you really undercut and you serves to sort of 1146 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: enable and make excuses for some bad behavior. Yeah. Well, 1147 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: on the line with Jenny Brentas, senior writer Sports Illustrated 1148 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: in MMQB, she wrote the Monday Morning Quarterback column that 1149 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: went up yesterday on MMQB and wrote about some of 1150 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: the other ways, some of the positive ways that NFL 1151 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: players are spending this downtime, and I want to get 1152 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: to some of those, including Josh Norman, who prior to 1153 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: reading this, when I thought of Josh Norman, I thought 1154 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,439 Speaker 1: of the big money move right to Washington a couple 1155 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: of years ago. I have a different perspective on him now. 1156 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: He went to Texas to work with some of the 1157 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: children who were separated and the immigration rule from their families. 1158 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that's quite admirable of Josh Norman inside of 1159 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: him that I wasn't aware of. Yeah, you know, I 1160 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: thought hearing he's account was really interesting. You know. He 1161 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: said he's seen a lot of the images that all 1162 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: of us had seen, and he felt like he wanted 1163 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: to do something, and he hoped that by him doing something, 1164 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: others would get involved in causes in their own community 1165 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: or in the elsewhere in the country that that really, 1166 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, evocal reaction from them and are important to them. 1167 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: So he went to San Antonio with same linebacker, Da 1168 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: Mario Davis, and they basically focus on providing comfort for 1169 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: their children. They didn't know each of the individual circumstances 1170 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: the kids that they met, but they didn't know they'd 1171 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: been released from detention centers and we're at a Greyhound 1172 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: bus station where they would travel to different places across 1173 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 1: the country along with their families to stay with family 1174 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: and friends until their immigration hearings. But they just saw 1175 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: these kids and they said, we're going to give them backpack, towels, blanket, toiletries, toys, 1176 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: just for they're comfortable in the uncertain journey ahead. And so, 1177 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, whatever your opinions are on immigration policy, I 1178 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: think it was just the person who said, their kids 1179 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: here in a tough situation, want to reach out to 1180 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: them and give them some comfort over you know, for 1181 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 1: what lies ahead for them. He also had an article 1182 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: about the McCarthy twins, Jason and Devons, along with Matthew 1183 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Slater and and they did something. You know, we always 1184 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: hear the kind of the refrain, particularly on talk radio 1185 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: and on social media, about athletes just sticking to football 1186 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: or sticking to basketball or just dribble the ball, as 1187 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: we've heard so many times, and these three guys for 1188 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots did just the opposite. They drove 1189 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: head first into the political arena in Boston. And would 1190 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: you describe what they did at a political debate? Yeah, 1191 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting because hearing the accounts after I 1192 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: wasn't there, but hearing the accounts from mccordy and some 1193 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: of the Patriots members of the organization who are there, 1194 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: was like a pretty raucous political debate. It was five 1195 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: candidates vying for the open the Dissententurney in Suffolk County, 1196 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: which includes Boston that's going to open up. And so 1197 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: basically they said, like there are people out there with 1198 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: megaphones trying to talk over each other in during the conversation. 1199 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: It was like they weren't you know, star Patriots players 1200 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,919 Speaker 1: people in the audience. The candidates were talking over them 1201 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: trying to get their point across. And so I made it, 1202 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: but it was interesting. It's the district attorney races across 1203 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 1: the country has been a focal point because the players 1204 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: who are involved in in the Players Coalition group, which 1205 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: is partnering with the NFL on that ninety million dollars 1206 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: social justice platform. Criminal justice reform is one of their 1207 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: big issues that they're working on, and so district attorney 1208 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: races are so important to that since they determine when 1209 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: their community gets charged and what charges are and how 1210 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: issues like that are handled in their community. So the 1211 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: players had questions preparing on all of those topics, and 1212 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: they basically in front of a room of two hundreds 1213 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: some community members were asking those questions. It's great about that. 1214 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm just gonna say, these people who might 1215 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: none have otherwise come to that conversation, right if it 1216 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 1: weren't for Patriots players. I think that's the value they had. Yeah, 1217 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: go ahead, and all right, Well, no, Jenny, I'm intrigued 1218 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: by the by the fact that it was part of 1219 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: the Players Coalition, which you know has received some funding, 1220 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: I believe from the league itself. What do you think 1221 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: the future is of the Players Coalition? What kind of 1222 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: work will they do, what kind of impact might they have? 1223 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, movie for the next couple of years. Yeah, 1224 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you're right exactly. So they finalized in May that ninety 1225 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: million dollars. It's all nearly ninety million dollar partnerships for 1226 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: social justice causes and that can be both national and 1227 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 1: also local in the communities. I think a big effort 1228 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: is criminal justice reform, which you know, can you know, 1229 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: affect different people differently, right, So, you know, they've been 1230 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: pushing for clean slate bills so that people who have 1231 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 1: offenses on their record, non violent offenses can get cleared 1232 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: after ten years. That's something they pushed for in Pennsylvania 1233 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: which got past and raising the age of criminal responsibility 1234 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: for juvenile and seven to twelve. That was a law 1235 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 1: that was passed in Massachusetts that they helped lobby for 1236 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: and obviously engaging the communities in the district attorney's race. 1237 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: So I think the way mccordy put it was kind 1238 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: of helping communities help themselves. And I think that's a 1239 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: great way to look at it, figuring out what measures 1240 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: can be taken in different communities to sort of um, 1241 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, end in the qualities and injustices that unfairly affects, 1242 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, people of color or people who are poor, 1243 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: and so I think their work is really focused on that. 1244 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: Uh And well, I think you know, they've made that 1245 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: point to not you know, to kind of move away 1246 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: from the discussion over the anthem policy there was around 1247 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: the league to the new anthem policy passed by the NFL. 1248 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 1: I think the players tried to kind of um, it 1249 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: wasn't as strong as as it was week three last 1250 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: year when Trump came after the players, right, they were 1251 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: they were more measure, They are more I think they 1252 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: made a concerted effort to say, hey, this is what 1253 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: we're doing in our communities. Let's talk about that. Is 1254 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: there any it might be too early to tell, is 1255 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: there any sense that the things have actually changed because 1256 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: of this, of the meeting and the political and their 1257 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: participation in that meeting. Well, I think you know, the 1258 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: legislation that's been in a few states that they lobbied for. 1259 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I think that's one tangible example. You know, new bills 1260 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: it or new laws in Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Louisiana for criminal 1261 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: justice reform. Obviously, those are measures that were being discussed. 1262 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: But mccordy said, you know, when he went to the Statehouse, Salabby, 1263 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: a lot of groups said you know what the impact 1264 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: of having a Patriots player here to support this and 1265 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 1: to have an op ed written by a Patriots player 1266 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 1: and the Patriots owner in the Boston Globe. So I 1267 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: think you can see, you know, there's people who have 1268 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: been working on these issues and communities, you know, for decades, right, 1269 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: But I think the additional impact of having players raised 1270 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: the platform, raised the awareness. Where is the education level? 1271 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 1: Maybe bring people in who might not have considered these 1272 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 1: issues or might not have worked in these areas because 1273 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 1: of the when they have as NFL players. Jenny, I 1274 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: want to ask you what Jenny brand is, by the way, 1275 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrated senior writer. I want to ask you 1276 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: about some of the other posts that you've put up 1277 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: on Sports Illustrated dot com and on MMQB. One of 1278 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: them dealing with how you seem to argue that the 1279 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers have to somehow lower expect 1280 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: tis manage the expectations after a six win season last year, 1281 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: but because of Garoppolo, they've got to keep an eye on, 1282 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, making sure that there's not too much buzz 1283 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: about about this upcoming season. I know, right, it's rare 1284 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: that you see a team with that did not have 1285 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 1: a winning record have to manage expectations. But I think 1286 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: that the hype fervor around the way Garoppolo played down 1287 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: the stretch and for him to come in and rattle 1288 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 1: off five wins is so impressive that I think there 1289 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: is a lot of hype, and I think there has been. 1290 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: It's interesting, right, you haven't seen Garoppolo. He's kept a 1291 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: really low profile. You haven't seen him on the covers 1292 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 1: of a lot of magazines, you haven't seen him out 1293 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: doing a lot of promotional things in the Bay Area. 1294 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been pretty low key, and that's by design. 1295 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 1: I think they want to try to build them but 1296 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: they had last year, but I think they don't want 1297 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: He made it look easy when he came in there, 1298 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: and I think Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch are very 1299 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: focused on not letting the players say, Okay, it's easy 1300 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: now that we've got this great core back like so, 1301 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting when I was out there 1302 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 1: for mini camps, when there was a practice when you know, 1303 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Garopplo didn't have his best day. He struggled a little bit. 1304 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: The offense is a whole struggled a little bit they 1305 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: were messing up snap counts, and you know, they stayed 1306 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: after to work on that, and so Kyle Shanahan said, 1307 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 1: it's interesting to see, like, okay, like how do how 1308 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 1: do they handle things when it's it's not going well? Yeah, 1309 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: we'll see. Hey, one more thing I want to ask 1310 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: you about. You wrote about it today or yesterday rather 1311 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: in the MMQB column, and that's the league's new rule 1312 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 1: on the helmet hits. You know, the proposal first came 1313 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: out and everybody kind of overreacted or they're going to 1314 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: start ejecting players, and then over the course of the 1315 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks it's like, look, it's not going 1316 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: to be that bad. It seems to me now they're 1317 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: at a point where they're going to try to and 1318 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 1: you write about it. There's a real educational process that 1319 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: will take place, I guess in training camp to let 1320 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: players know exactly what is permissible. It doesn't seem like 1321 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of injections, but certainly 1322 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more there's gonna be more emphasis put 1323 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 1: on helmet hits and what's allowed. Right. I think that's 1324 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: exactly right. I don't think there will be a lot 1325 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 1: of objections. I think there was a small number of 1326 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: plays last year that would have risen to the level 1327 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: of ejections. I think the point with this rule is 1328 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 1: to maybe, you know, ramp in over time. When they 1329 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 1: met at you know, the NFL had a summit in May. 1330 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: You were there see for the kickoff descopan and they 1331 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: also discussed the helmet lowering rule, and I think a 1332 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: big emphasis was the coaches were worried, but I think 1333 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 1: they came out of the meeting feeling like, Okay, we're 1334 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: going to ramp into this. And I think the number 1335 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 1: one thing they want to take out of the game 1336 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: this year is that tossed you where players are pitched 1337 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: over like a battering ram, their their head in line 1338 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: with their spine, and that can create that has the 1339 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 1: greatest risk of impact. And so I think they're going 1340 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: to see the emphasis on plays where there's time and 1341 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: space to make a decision. The biggest question go ahead, Yeah, no, 1342 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that. Now they've got head coaches 1343 01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: around the league making videos to show in training camps 1344 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: all these their players and say this is good, this 1345 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: is bad, that kind of thing. So they're really this 1346 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: is I've never seen anything like this in the years 1347 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,439 Speaker 1: I've been covering the league, and then the years I played, 1348 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: they'd come out and give us the new rule changes. 1349 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: But now they've got all these head coaches voicing over 1350 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: film about what's going to be allowed and what isn't. 1351 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: So there's really no excuse if they started ejecting guys 1352 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: because they just didn't get the message correct. Yeah, and 1353 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a great point, and it was a 1354 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: great idea from dan Quint. It was his idea to 1355 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: have head coaches create these videos. So them created videos 1356 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: for different position groups so that they could give players 1357 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 1: a clear expectation. And interestingly dan Quinn did the defensive 1358 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: line one, and there were there was nothing in the 1359 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: interior was all like edge rush or you know plays 1360 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 1: where someone's coming outside to tackle someone, essentially again where 1361 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: they have a choice to make, the time and space 1362 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,600 Speaker 1: to make a decision. That's what the focus is, to 1363 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,919 Speaker 1: get those really bad hits and get that awareness among players. 1364 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,080 Speaker 1: Maybe over time that translates more in the interior of 1365 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: the trenches, but I think it's really that one that 1366 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 1: the most dangerous behavior players using themselves as a battering 1367 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: ramp and getting too comfortable doing that. We'll get it right. Hey, Jenny, 1368 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: do you have Pittsford, New York on your summertime training 1369 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: camp and itinerary? You're gonna visit a Bills camp this year? Yeah, 1370 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 1: party on the itinerary. I'm gonna be doing an east 1371 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: coast trip, so i'll see how far. I'll see if 1372 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 1: that veers over in a buffalo or not. But I always, 1373 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 1: I always enjoy visiting. Um that's one of my favorite 1374 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 1: stops every year on the tour. So hopefully I'll get 1375 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 1: a chance to come see uh, see the Bills and 1376 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in person. Yeah, come on up, it's gonna 1377 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: be great. It's short, it's only what three weeks or so? 1378 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,639 Speaker 1: What do we count? See we got h shows and practice. Yeah, 1379 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: it's only Yeah, they're only gonna be there for two 1380 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: and a half weeks. Yeah, and uh, nobody's gonna be 1381 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,680 Speaker 1: able to watch a good portion of them. So but 1382 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: come on, Jenny, you'll pick and choose your pick and 1383 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 1: choose your visit. Yeah, Jenny, thanks for this, good to 1384 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: talk to here. We hope to see you this summer 1385 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: or sometime soon. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having me 1386 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: on Jenny Brents, your writers, Sports Illustrated and MMQB. She 1387 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,879 Speaker 1: wrote the Monday Morning Quarterback post that went up yesterday. 1388 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 1: I forgot she was in them, and there was a 1389 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: There was like fifty people in the room where they 1390 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 1: had that kickoff summit a couple of months ago, moving 1391 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 1: and they were talking about how they're going to change 1392 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 1: the kickoff and whether it was going to be able 1393 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,759 Speaker 1: to be salvaged or not. And a bunch of special 1394 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: teams players but a couple of had three three two 1395 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,600 Speaker 1: or three head coaches were in the room. The officiating 1396 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 1: arm of the NFL was in there, so were the rulesmakers. 1397 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: M Rich McKay actually ran the meeting as the executive 1398 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 1: of the he's the chairman of the Competition Committee. So 1399 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: there was a it was pretty cool to be sitting 1400 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: there at the table and listening to how they were 1401 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 1: talking about it. And afterwards, you know, the media members 1402 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 1: that were there got a chance to break off and 1403 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,680 Speaker 1: get one on ones with anybody they wanted to get in. 1404 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: So it was I got a chance to say hello 1405 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: to Jenny there. So it was It's really cool to 1406 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,800 Speaker 1: see the fruition of a meeting like that where it's 1407 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the first one I've ever been a part of. I mean, 1408 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 1: I used to be part of game plans and you'd 1409 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: see that happen on the field, But as far as 1410 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: league wide stuff, it's pretty cool. I mean, they had 1411 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: a big, long conversation after that was all over about 1412 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 1: how they were gonna word the rule, how it was 1413 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 1: actually going to be stated in the rule book, and 1414 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: they had, you know, it was that people you know, 1415 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 1: typing it in, you know, striking it out, typing it in, 1416 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 1: re typing it in. Then they say, well, hat, wait, wait, wait, 1417 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 1: we gotta say that, you know, and they were rewording it, 1418 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: and then it's actually, you know, they were tinkering with 1419 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 1: the rule books. So it was pretty heavy stuff For me. 1420 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 1: I was pretty excited about being there, so it was 1421 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to see how the helmet rule, 1422 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the kickoff coverage rule, you know, the new kickoff formation 1423 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna use, is all kind of come who maybe 1424 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Vegas does. Who is the odds on favor to be 1425 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: the first guy ejected from an NFL game for the 1426 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: helmet rule. Montes perfect, Oh, you're going with the obvious. 1427 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: That's like taking the Patriots to make the playoffs. That's 1428 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: my pick. In fact, Jenny brent As from MMQB and 1429 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated dot Com, she joined us on the subway 1430 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: Fresh Tank Highline Subway Eat Fresh Steve before we get 1431 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 1: to the break, What do you think of this? So 1432 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 1: I read the story in the in the update about 1433 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: it happened last night, the Panthers ownership transfer two point 1434 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,759 Speaker 1: two seven five billion dollars from David Tepper to Jerry Richardson. 1435 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: But here's something weird that came about of that, a 1436 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: concession in their sale contract regarding a statue of Jerry Richardson, 1437 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,480 Speaker 1: the first owner, the founder of the Carolina Panthers franchise, 1438 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 1: has his statue outside the stadium. You've been there, those Panthers. 1439 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: They got a statue of Jerry Richardson, former NFL player, 1440 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,679 Speaker 1: with a football in his hand. Temper David Tepper said 1441 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,520 Speaker 1: during his first news conference, said the team is contractually 1442 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 1: obligated to keep the statue, and regardless, Tepper said, we're 1443 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: keeping it there because I want to. Now, there are 1444 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 1: some mitigating circumstances about Richardson's departure, Allegations of you know, 1445 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,600 Speaker 1: misbehavior in the front office of the Panthers. He was 1446 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: fine two point five million for that behavior, so it 1447 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 1: was found to be legitimate. And uh, yeah, that's it's 1448 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: not a good look. What's it like to have a 1449 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 1: statue of a guy who left under those circumstances. I 1450 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 1: can see why people would raise questions, absolutely, and although 1451 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 1: concern and and criticism about it, not just questions, but 1452 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 1: criticize it. And I and I get it, um, certainly. Um, 1453 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: but you know by the same token, then you got 1454 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: the other side of the coin, and um that he 1455 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 1: did bring that team there. He was, he was the 1456 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 1: guy who was the driving force behind having it there. 1457 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Um And uh. But yeah, there's no question he left 1458 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: under a cloud. Yeah. Now, let me say this, if 1459 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 1: you're being fair about it, you look at the Buffalo 1460 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Bills and you say, well, Buffalo Bills, you have O. J. 1461 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Simpson on your Wall of fame? What about that? That's right? 1462 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Not similar circumstances, a little different because OJ was out 1463 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 1: of the league for twenty years or so, I'm more 1464 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 1: twenty five years maybe or there about twenty r At 1465 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 1: twenty he was out of the league twenty years, two 1466 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 1: decades after he was long gone from from One Bill's Drive. 1467 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 1: So it's a you know, life takes a lot of 1468 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 1: turns in two decades, so obviously, but so yeah, there 1469 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 1: is that as well. But if you're gonna do that, 1470 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, yeah, you've heard stories about guys 1471 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 1: in the Baseball Hall of Fame pro Football Hall of 1472 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Fame now that we're we're inducted back in the sixties, 1473 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 1: and you go back and if you dissect their lives, 1474 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's your knee go down a slippery slope 1475 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 1: and uh, and I get it, but I do think 1476 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 1: there's no reason to sweep all that stuff under the rug. 1477 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta take the bad with the good 1478 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: in life all the time, and you gotta make make 1479 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: amends for the stuff you do wrong if you can, 1480 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: and uh, try and do better from from this point forward. 1481 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think we all fall 1482 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 1: under that umbrella. And if so, we'll see I mean, 1483 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 1: but I get it. It's a it's a it's an 1484 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: issue because Jerry Richardson was the guy in Carolina for 1485 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,680 Speaker 1: its first uh twenty three, twenty four years of the 1486 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,639 Speaker 1: existence of that franchise, and to have him leave under 1487 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,840 Speaker 1: a cloud, U I don't know that it washes away 1488 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: every good thing he ever did. But certainly, like I said, 1489 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: it does tarnish the statue a little bit. Got a 1490 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 1: break right here. We're coming back with more Steve Tasker 1491 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 1: and me One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health. We're 1492 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,200 Speaker 1: coming to you live from One Bill's Drive and this 1493 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 1494 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: Steve task along with John Murphy, we're senior discause. We 1495 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 1: had Jenny Ventress on talking about her Monday Morning Quarterback Club. 1496 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Some of the things that the players are, the positive 1497 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: things that players are doing in the offseason. We've been 1498 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,720 Speaker 1: also right got dumped into our lab just before we 1499 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,679 Speaker 1: came on the air, the Lashawn McCoy allegations about domestic 1500 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: violence and he's been accused of brutally beating a former 1501 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: girlfriend and accusations and social media. Right yeah, the police. 1502 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: For our to our knowledge, the police are not involved 1503 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,679 Speaker 1: at all, but that may change. But on social media, 1504 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 1: accusations and denials are flying like wood chips at a sawmill, 1505 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 1: and it's it's unbelievably difficult to keep on top of 1506 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: it and to even lend credence to one side or 1507 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,839 Speaker 1: the other um in the reaction on both sides. Certainly, 1508 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:23,920 Speaker 1: uh Leshaun McCoy is vehemently denied the allegations, but the 1509 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,679 Speaker 1: pictures associated with them are brutal and appalling. So we're 1510 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,679 Speaker 1: that's the kind of mess we kind of walked into 1511 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 1: this morning, and we don't know where the truth lies. 1512 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,679 Speaker 1: We have none. By the way, you don't either, Yeah, listeners, 1513 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 1: we got people tweeting in Thomas Wood. I don't know 1514 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: if this is sarcasm or not. I let's assume it's not. 1515 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Are you guys aware of the allegations were recently made 1516 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 1: regarding lesha McCoy. Yeah, we started the show about it. 1517 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 1: We don't know much more than you do. Yeah, I 1518 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 1: mean you don't know much either, right, So what do 1519 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,240 Speaker 1: you want us to say? Yeah, I mean, we're we're 1520 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,679 Speaker 1: not true. We've been We've talked about it, and there's 1521 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: no question. I mean, if it all comes out that 1522 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: it's true, Leshawn's played his last down, he gonna go 1523 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,640 Speaker 1: to jail if it's not true. I mean, and as 1524 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: we've seen, people are bringing up Ruben Foster, the linebacker 1525 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 1: from San Francisco that was proven that the it was 1526 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: he was lied about and you know, so some people 1527 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,799 Speaker 1: are suspecting that of course, Lashaw McCoy fans are suspecting 1528 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 1: that this is an attempt to gain notoriety or you know, uh, 1529 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 1: you know whatever sour grapes a relationship gone south, trying 1530 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,680 Speaker 1: to get one last payday for somebody, and that's you know, 1531 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,040 Speaker 1: who knows if that and that you know that seems 1532 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,839 Speaker 1: you know, like a reaction as well. We don't know anything, 1533 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: but the pictures are brutal, and uh, you know, so 1534 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,160 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things flying around. We don't know 1535 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: what's true and what's not. We do know that it's 1536 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 1: a serious allegation, and the Buffalo Bills, no doubt, are 1537 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: taking extremely seriously trying to get to the bottom of it, 1538 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 1: and we're watching it as closely as we can. McCoy 1539 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 1: denies the allegations. The Bills say that they're where the 1540 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 1: allegations and that's about all we know officially on this topic. 1541 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 1: So um and we're all we can do, is all 1542 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: we can do is go on social media and read 1543 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,719 Speaker 1: all the reactions and the and the I believe this happened, 1544 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,759 Speaker 1: and I believe that happened, and and he's an animal 1545 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 1: and she's or she's crazy. It's both sides of that issue. 1546 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 1: And we don't know UM, but it is in our face. 1547 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. We can't avoid it today. 1548 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 1: The pictures are graphic, and the allegations are unbelievably wide ranging, 1549 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 1: not just domestic abuse, but child abuse, drug abuse, animal abuse. 1550 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: There's a list of all the accusations that were in 1551 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:43,519 Speaker 1: the original um Instagram and now they're being added to 1552 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 1: and you know, so it's yeah, it's uh, it's a 1553 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 1: mess right now. I like what Jenny Brent said about waiting, 1554 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 1: being patient, you're finding out what the truth is. I'd 1555 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: like to do that on our show. UM. People on Twitter, 1556 01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 1: some of them are not prepared to do that. Some 1557 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 1: people are ready to pounce, and then tomorrow will be 1558 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: ready to pounce on something else. Knock yourself out, Go 1559 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 1: ahead and do it. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it. 1560 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Knock yourself out. If you think you know what happened, 1561 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 1: if you think you know the truth, you have an 1562 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,240 Speaker 1: opinion about it. That's why you have Twitter. I'll tell you, folks, 1563 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 1: if you've got time to do it, it'll wear you out. Yeah, 1564 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 1: it will wear you out trying to keep up with 1565 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 1: it and make and make speculations. And of course too, 1566 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 1: you read between you know, the whole thing is everybody 1567 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 1: starts reading between the lines of both sides and what 1568 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: both sides say about this issue and what's going on. 1569 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 1: And he said, she said, and they said, and I 1570 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 1: knew this, and you knew that, and I saw this 1571 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 1: happen one other time in a different case. I'm like, well, 1572 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's where it's It's exhausting to try 1573 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,719 Speaker 1: and stay on top of this this story as it develops, 1574 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 1: and we will do our best. But nothing factual has 1575 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: come about except accusation upon accusation and denials, so we 1576 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: have to wait and see. In the meantime, let's talk 1577 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about Bills football. We are sixteen days 1578 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 1: away from the first training camp. Practice Bills start on Thursday, 1579 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: December Thursday, July twenty six with a five thirty pm practice. 1580 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 1: You need a ticket for that one. They practice the 1581 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,759 Speaker 1: following day, Friday, July twenty seventh, two fifteen, No ticket required, 1582 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 1: four state day, four straight days of practice to start, 1583 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,799 Speaker 1: and it starts on July twenty six, and the countdown 1584 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 1: to camp is on on our website. Buffalo Bills dot 1585 01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 1: Com every day as we countdown to days, a couple 1586 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,959 Speaker 1: of issues that will come up. Camp Countdown Number sixteen 1587 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,599 Speaker 1: is up today and you can read it on our 1588 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 1: website and it's about the Buffalo Bills defense and defensive 1589 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 1: playmakers to look for at training camp. A list of 1590 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: several ones that I think the number one defensive playmaker 1591 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: keep the playmaker to keep an eye on, may be 1592 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: the most important player going into camp on the defensive 1593 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: side of the ball, and that's first round draft pick 1594 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 1: Fremaine Edmunds. Steve, There's a lot. I've said it so 1595 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: many times. There's a lot on his plate. There's a 1596 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,639 Speaker 1: lot he has to do for this team. And if 1597 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,760 Speaker 1: he comes through for him, which you know so far 1598 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,839 Speaker 1: all the signs are pretty good, it could it could 1599 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,799 Speaker 1: go a long way towards building this defense up. Tremaine 1600 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,879 Speaker 1: Edmonds to me, is the most important defensive potential defensive 1601 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 1: playmaker around the roster. I agree, because everybody's gonna take 1602 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 1: their queue from him. He's calling the plays, he's running 1603 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,680 Speaker 1: the defense. He's got to make sure that the secondary 1604 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,560 Speaker 1: is in concert with the front seven. You've got to 1605 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,599 Speaker 1: have the right defensive front call and the right secondary call, 1606 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: and he's in charge of it. He's got to do it. Now. 1607 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 1: He'll get some help from Micah Hyde and Jordan Poor 1608 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 1: are the safeties. They'll keep track of it as well. 1609 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,679 Speaker 1: They'll quarterback the secondary. But he's in charge of making 1610 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 1: sure everybody's on the same page, all eleven guys, not 1611 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,880 Speaker 1: just the front seven. And plus, not only does he 1612 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 1: have to lead, he's got to call the plays. He 1613 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 1: got to do it. He's got to play well. He's 1614 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 1: got to tackle well. He's got to run sideline to sideline, 1615 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be asked to run with guys like 1616 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski down the middle of the football field. He's 1617 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 1: gonna be asked to come up and make plays in 1618 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 1: the running game, rush the passer. He's gonna be everything. 1619 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be the middle of that defense. 1620 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 1: And he look back passed at Sean McDermott and some 1621 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,599 Speaker 1: of the defenses he's ran in Carolina, and he looked 1622 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: to a guy like Luke Keikley, who is a really 1623 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: respected linebacker in the NFL, and who and I watched 1624 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,639 Speaker 1: him play a number of times, and I always used 1625 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,439 Speaker 1: the word clairvoyant when I watched Keekley play. He knew 1626 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 1: where the ball was going seemingly before the snap, and 1627 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 1: he was so quick to read and react and be 1628 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time. It almost 1629 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,320 Speaker 1: seemed like he knew what was going to happen. That 1630 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,480 Speaker 1: was due to film study. That's the kind of spot 1631 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,000 Speaker 1: and the role that Tremaine Edmonds is going to be 1632 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 1: asked to fill for the Bills. How about Micah Hyde. 1633 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,280 Speaker 1: He's listed a second defensive play we're looking for for 1634 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 1: the Bills going to camp. Five interceptions last year, leader 1635 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,559 Speaker 1: at the back end of the defense. I think most 1636 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 1: Bills fans I know I would be satisfied with more 1637 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: of the same from Micah Hyde another year, a lot 1638 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,200 Speaker 1: like the twenty seventeen season. With the kind of contributions 1639 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,520 Speaker 1: he made both in the leadership category and on field performance. 1640 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 1: I think, uh Micah Hyde will probably take a big 1641 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,639 Speaker 1: step forward when it comes to leadership this year. Yes, 1642 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 1: he is a defensive playmate he could have looked for, 1643 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 1: and for my money, doesn't have to do a whole 1644 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 1: lot more than he did last year to be an 1645 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 1: important player on the Buffalo defense. Oh absolutely, he was 1646 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,679 Speaker 1: an enormous addition to that club, who's the top guy 1647 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,639 Speaker 1: in free agency. They went out and got him right 1648 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 1: away as free agency opened as signed to the nice 1649 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,360 Speaker 1: nice contract and he came in and man, he earned 1650 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 1: every cent of it, the interceptions he made and the 1651 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 1: way that they made them. And I said this time 1652 01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,840 Speaker 1: and time again on the program, the turnovers the Bills 1653 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 1: secondary was able were able to generate in the first 1654 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 1: half of the season last year was really the engine 1655 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: that drove them all the way to the playoffs. And 1656 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,200 Speaker 1: that and you gotta take tip your hat to Micah Hyde, 1657 01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, Tardevious White and the and H. E. J. Gaines. 1658 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,479 Speaker 1: I mean, those guys got turnovers, They got a lot 1659 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 1: of picks, eighteen interceptions last year, and so I would 1660 01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 1: love to have another year out of those guys like that. 1661 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,720 Speaker 1: And there's really for me. And I don't know if 1662 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 1: they'll get that many interceptions to defense, Murph, but I 1663 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 1: think they're gonna the defense should be We've agreed. I 1664 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be a top ten defense this year. 1665 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be better. Absolutely, they're gonna be better. 1666 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 1: They were twenty sixth overall in the league, and that's 1667 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,400 Speaker 1: just by yards given up. Forget about being twenty ninth 1668 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 1: against the run and twenty ninth in sacks. You know 1669 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be better than that, and that's if they are. 1670 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 1: The secondary will be a part of it, but I 1671 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:33,760 Speaker 1: think it's going to be mostly because of their better 1672 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,840 Speaker 1: pass rush and better run stopping ability. Defensive playmakers to 1673 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,680 Speaker 1: keep an eye in and camp. It's a post that's 1674 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 1: up at Buffalo bills dot com. Here's one interesting named 1675 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson. We all know the springtime stories of Shack Lawson. 1676 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,719 Speaker 1: He's dropped what twelve pounds, He's in better shape, seems 1677 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,680 Speaker 1: to be taking him more. I think, I think a 1678 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:55,280 Speaker 1: more mature and professional approach to his job. Lawson's quote 1679 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 1: was in the spring, I'm doing things on the field 1680 01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 1: and off the field, eating right. Once I take care 1681 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 1: of my body, I'm good to good to go. Do 1682 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 1: we count on Shack Lawson to be a major defensive 1683 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 1: playmaker this year? I don't know about that. I think 1684 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 1: you wanted to be a regular part of the defensive 1685 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,760 Speaker 1: line rotation, potentially as starter, maybe not. I don't know that. 1686 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say that Shack Lawson is going 1687 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 1: to be a difference maker. On the Buffalo defense. Yet, yes, 1688 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 1: I know his pedigree first round picked a couple of 1689 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: years ago. I have seen the improvement. I have seen 1690 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 1: his body looks different. I think he's got a much 1691 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,120 Speaker 1: more mature approach than he had coming in a couple 1692 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 1: of years ago. But to count on him as a 1693 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 1: difference maker on defense, I'm not prepared to go there 1694 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 1: just yet, Steve, I want to see more. No, I'm 1695 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 1: not either. I certainly his attitude has changed, no question 1696 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 1: about it. And he's come back and obviously put in 1697 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of work on changing his physical makeup. But 1698 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,840 Speaker 1: we're at the point with Shack Lawson that he's you know, 1699 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,560 Speaker 1: he's got a lot to prove he's got and he 1700 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: got to sit back and wait for him to do it. 1701 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,679 Speaker 1: And that's if he gets If he does, hey, awesome, 1702 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 1: good for him. But the simple fact the matter is 1703 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 1: he put himself into a position where he's been a 1704 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 1: disappointment thus far in his career. He started out with 1705 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,240 Speaker 1: the shoulder injury, came back, so he kind of gave 1706 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 1: him a pass on the second half of his rookie 1707 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 1: year when he came in. But you know, this is 1708 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 1: a guy that you know a lot of expectations are 1709 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,639 Speaker 1: tacked onto a guy who's taken as a pass rusher 1710 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 1: in the first round, and he has yet to live 1711 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 1: up to you know, the loftiest of those expectations. Certainly, 1712 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 1: he's been a guy who's played for the team and 1713 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 1: played well at times, but he has not been a 1714 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 1: dominant pass rusher. One more, actually two more. Matt Milano 1715 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 1: mentioned as a potential defensive playmaker to look for again. 1716 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 1: To me, that might be asking a little bit too much. 1717 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 1: I know Matt Malanno was a starter last year. I 1718 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: know he made a big play, especially in the Raiders game. 1719 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to say that he could be again 1720 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 1: a difference maker on the Buffalo Bill's defense. I think 1721 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,000 Speaker 1: he's a good player, a great athlete, can run all day. 1722 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to say that they're going to lean 1723 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 1: on Matt Malanno to be a playmaker. Who can you know, 1724 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,559 Speaker 1: flip games for him? You think, no. I think he's 1725 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,640 Speaker 1: part of a question mark at the linebacking corps. I 1726 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I don't know if he's big enough, 1727 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,320 Speaker 1: physical enough to make those plays that he needs to 1728 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,840 Speaker 1: make there. He's I think certainly he's he's fast enough 1729 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 1: and athletic enough. I don't know that he's big enough 1730 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 1: and physical enough to play the way the kind of 1731 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 1: spot in this defense they need him to play. Now, 1732 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 1: if he's going to drop out and and being pass 1733 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,680 Speaker 1: coverage ninety percent of the time, I can see that. 1734 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 1: But they're not going to throw the football ninety percent 1735 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 1: of the time. He's gonna be asked to come up 1736 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 1: and run some do some things in the path in 1737 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,799 Speaker 1: the running game. Uh, you know, in the play everybody 1738 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: points to is that Raiders game when the ball was tipped, 1739 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, so he kind of he was late to 1740 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,639 Speaker 1: the party getting there to catch that and he got 1741 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,920 Speaker 1: in for the touchdown. It's it's a great play being 1742 01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 1: heads up, being able to do that. But you know, 1743 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,920 Speaker 1: I think it was Payer who tipped that ball up 1744 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 1: in the air and got it up. I can't remember it. 1745 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the safeties who actually made 1746 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,200 Speaker 1: the play that got the ball in the air in 1747 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:57,599 Speaker 1: the first place. But so yeah, I mean it's yeah. 1748 01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 1: The jury is still out on all the linebackers and 1749 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmund included. Although Edmonds, you know, looks to play 1750 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,960 Speaker 1: a more significant role than Milano does. I think the 1751 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: jury's out on the linebackers of the Buffalo Bills. And 1752 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 1: on this post which is up at Buffalo bills dot 1753 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 1: com about defensive playmakers to look forward camp, the last 1754 01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 1: one mentioned is to me, maybe the one who is 1755 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 1: the biggest playmaking ability, and that's Turdevious White going into 1756 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 1: a second year of All Rookie last year second team 1757 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,240 Speaker 1: All Pro from Pro Football Focus. He had an outstanding 1758 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:28,880 Speaker 1: rookie year and I look for more from him Tredevious White. 1759 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 1: Based on his comments during the spring, the things he said, 1760 01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,840 Speaker 1: the way he looks in practice, I think Ddevius White 1761 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 1: could turn out to be the number one playmaker on 1762 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,600 Speaker 1: the Buffalo defense next year. To be honest, yeah, I 1763 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 1: agree with that. I mean, he's gonna get some opportunities. 1764 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 1: He's gonna they're gonna put him out there on an island. 1765 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna ask him to make to cover guys, and 1766 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 1: last year he was up to the task. You would 1767 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,719 Speaker 1: think he's gonna get better with the experience that he gained. 1768 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see the step that he takes. 1769 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine a corner having a better year 1770 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,639 Speaker 1: than he did as a rookie. Now, certainly Mars Shawn 1771 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Lattimore down in New Orleans even had a better year 1772 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,679 Speaker 1: than Marsh than Tredevius did. Some would say, some would yeah, 1773 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:11,880 Speaker 1: he was in the conversation, so it was he's if 1774 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,320 Speaker 1: he has another listen, if he has another year like 1775 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,679 Speaker 1: he did as a rookie, he'll be an elite corner 1776 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,400 Speaker 1: in the league. He won't have that rookie moniker anymore. 1777 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,800 Speaker 1: He'll be making interceptions and making tackles and holding guys 1778 01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,400 Speaker 1: off the stat sheet, covering them and that's all it take, 1779 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 1: and he'll be you know, because that he will be 1780 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 1: considered an elite corner. If he just repeats, forget about improving, 1781 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 1: If he just repeats what he did last year, he's 1782 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,759 Speaker 1: as good a corner as there is in the league. 1783 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 1: Pretty good post one up this morning on Buffalo bills 1784 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:43,240 Speaker 1: dot Com. Camp Countdown number sixteen, five defensive playmakers to 1785 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,200 Speaker 1: look for at training camp, written by Mitchell Courtney. Checking 1786 01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:47,519 Speaker 1: out when you get a chance, let's know what you 1787 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,599 Speaker 1: think about that. Got phone line's open today if you'd 1788 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 1: like to discuss that or anything else. Lines open at 1789 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,920 Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free one 1790 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 1: eight eight, five fifty two, five fifty Steve and I 1791 01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,519 Speaker 1: back with more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive 1792 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:14,760 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Low Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bills Live, 1793 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,280 Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker from our one Buffalo studio in 1794 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,240 Speaker 1: the ad Pro Sports Training Center. Sixteen days away from 1795 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,599 Speaker 1: training camp, one day away from the NFL Supplemental Draft. 1796 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,759 Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. This year's kind of interesting, Steve. 1797 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 1: It's tomorrow, starts at one o'clock tomorrow. Here's how it works. 1798 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: Teams notified at one pm tomorrow that the draft have started. 1799 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,640 Speaker 1: They don't all get together, They stay right where they are. 1800 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 1: They do this over the phone. Teams have ten minutes 1801 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,360 Speaker 1: after one o'clock to respond. If they want a draft 1802 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,679 Speaker 1: a player in the first round, they go through ten minutes. 1803 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 1: Then it gets the second round. All thirty two teams 1804 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:52,000 Speaker 1: notified electronically of selection process repeats. It's a weighted lottery 1805 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:56,680 Speaker 1: based on the April Draft Order supplemental Draft picks. That 1806 01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 1: there are five eligible I believe does this say five? Yeah, 1807 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: and the one that has most attention. Wait minute, let 1808 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,879 Speaker 1: me just give one other thing about the the process. 1809 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,519 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's a weird process. Five players eligible, 1810 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: That's what I was looking for. Five players eligible for 1811 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,840 Speaker 1: tomorrow's supplemental Draft. The one that might get the most interest, 1812 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,760 Speaker 1: at least expect to get the most interest, is a 1813 01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 1: cornerback from Western Michigan, Sam Beale, who experts say could 1814 01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 1: be chosen in the first three rounds. Sam Beale, who 1815 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:32,120 Speaker 1: has got the size six foot one four or four 1816 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,880 Speaker 1: seven and the forty yard dash, A good cover guy. 1817 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 1: Sam Beale was ruled academically ineligible to spring and most 1818 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,639 Speaker 1: scouts give him a second round grade in terms of talent. 1819 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,160 Speaker 1: He could go second, could go third in the supplemental 1820 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 1: draft tomorrow. And by the way, if you use a 1821 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,559 Speaker 1: pick tomorrow in the supplemental draft, you lose that pick 1822 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,519 Speaker 1: in next April draft. So, for instance, the Buffalo Bills 1823 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 1: use a third rounder on Sam Bill tomorrow, they do 1824 01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 1: not have, they lose one of their third rounders going 1825 01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,800 Speaker 1: into next year's draft. What was interesting, and you covered 1826 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 1: this when I was off a couple of weeks ago. 1827 01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,280 Speaker 1: The Bill's actually sent scouts to Sam Bill's workout a 1828 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,519 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, right, Yeah, and there, I think 1829 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,599 Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams. The Browns and the Bills 1830 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,160 Speaker 1: have both been tabbed as two teams that are interested 1831 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 1: in getting him, and what's it gonna you gotta weigh 1832 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,600 Speaker 1: at what's it gonna cost you? And there's some you know. 1833 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 1: The only downside to Bill that I've read about is 1834 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,559 Speaker 1: that he's a little bit of light. He's not heavy enough. 1835 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 1: He's tall enough, and he's got the skills and right 1836 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,720 Speaker 1: one eighty seven at six one is it's a little thin, 1837 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 1: but he does have the length, he's got skill set, 1838 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: ball skills and change of direction. Um, so he's yeah, 1839 01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,080 Speaker 1: he's He's a first day draft pick and maybe not 1840 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,960 Speaker 1: a draft one day first rounder, but certainly a second 1841 01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 1: round physical talent who couldn't get it together academically and 1842 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,960 Speaker 1: had to miss the draft this year. Bucky Brooks, nfl 1843 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 1: dot Com Draft expert he rewrites this about Sam Bill. 1844 01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,719 Speaker 1: Critically speaking, Bill needs to work on his physicality and toughness. 1845 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,160 Speaker 1: Is run defender. He does not aggressively seek out contact 1846 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 1: on the edge. His reluctance to engage ball carriers could 1847 01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,160 Speaker 1: make him a liability on a gap controlled defense that 1848 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: forces runners to the outside. But he is the best 1849 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,840 Speaker 1: of the five who are eligible tomorrow, And I'd be 1850 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: curious to know what the calculation is in the Bills 1851 01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,800 Speaker 1: draft room and you know, the personnel department and all 1852 01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,280 Speaker 1: over the NFL. So you look at Sam Biale and 1853 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 1: these others, you have an idea, but it's only an 1854 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,519 Speaker 1: idea of how they might be valued next April. Right, 1855 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,719 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is we're willing to bet guess 1856 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 1: that this guy Sam Beale, let's say, for instance, is 1857 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 1: going to be worth a second rounder with everything that 1858 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,360 Speaker 1: could go on over the next year. Yeah, I think 1859 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,519 Speaker 1: it's an interesting question. I think it probably a really 1860 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 1: difficult calculation to make by NFL teams, not just the Bills. Plus, 1861 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,760 Speaker 1: you gotta think, well, do we need him enough now 1862 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,960 Speaker 1: for this season to make a difference for us now 1863 01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,160 Speaker 1: going forward? Can we get him in the fold now? 1864 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 1: Can he help us now as opposed to where we 1865 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,960 Speaker 1: might be in next year's draft. There's kind of that 1866 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 1: trying to see the future kind of thing. Certainly you 1867 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: kind of know what kind of player he's gonna be. 1868 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,040 Speaker 1: And I think what you do if you're a team, 1869 01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 1: as you think, you know, we could we'll take that 1870 01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 1: kid if he would have been available A, B and 1871 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 1: C for us this year, given what we went through, 1872 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 1: would we have taken him at this spot? And if 1873 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,880 Speaker 1: he answers yes, that's what you kind of offer for 1874 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,000 Speaker 1: him in the supplemental draft. And if if the Cleveland Browns, 1875 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,479 Speaker 1: who picked ahead of the Bills in the draft, put 1876 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 1: that same round in, they get him. So he's kind 1877 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 1: of a bidding war that way, and that's that's how 1878 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 1: it works. So I think that's the calculations. Mentally you 1879 01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 1: have to do. You have to look at a kid, 1880 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,479 Speaker 1: see if he can, see if he fits into your scheme, 1881 01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,360 Speaker 1: is he filling a need as well? Do you think 1882 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,320 Speaker 1: he can? And I think bottom line is they went 1883 01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 1: to his pro day? Do you think he can make 1884 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,679 Speaker 1: your team? You're not gonna give up a draft pick 1885 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:52,920 Speaker 1: for somebody you don't think can make your team. And 1886 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,120 Speaker 1: if if they think he can, they'll they'll they'll put 1887 01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,280 Speaker 1: a bit in on him. Yeah, Bills Charlie Corner pretty good. 1888 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what would a rookie corner add to that mix? 1889 01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Vante Davis changed things when they were 1890 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,040 Speaker 1: able to get him on free agency. They they've got 1891 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,040 Speaker 1: their four guys, now the fifth guy then the slot corner. 1892 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they've you know, there's you know, there's a debate 1893 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,040 Speaker 1: to have there who it's gonna be, but there's no 1894 01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:19,639 Speaker 1: doubt I think you know they they like the four guys. 1895 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,280 Speaker 1: They've got the two safeties and the two corners. You 1896 01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,640 Speaker 1: get past that, well, then maybe you can have a 1897 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 1: conversation about how Sam Bill might fit in. It's one 1898 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow. If it happens during the show, I would 1899 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,400 Speaker 1: imagine we'll get word right if the Bills or anybody 1900 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,880 Speaker 1: else chooses Sam Bill or any of the other four. 1901 01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 1: You think we could You think we could find somebody 1902 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,560 Speaker 1: to give us a ring when you somebody in the 1903 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,280 Speaker 1: preventing ESPN from having a subsimental draft show. You know, 1904 01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:47,360 Speaker 1: probably money. But would you watch the people would watch it? Hey, yeah, 1905 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,200 Speaker 1: well what's to watch? They're in an office, nobody's there's 1906 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,120 Speaker 1: no there's no place to be at the supplemental guy. 1907 01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,120 Speaker 1: How would you have to get cooperation from the league 1908 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,800 Speaker 1: about you know, who's gonna call? Where can we what 1909 01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:59,920 Speaker 1: can we show? You know? What do we get it? 1910 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,840 Speaker 1: Look at your email? Is that how this works? Do 1911 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 1: they do it through email? It's probably telephone coresentation Is 1912 01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,559 Speaker 1: it a conference call. That's probably the way they communicate, 1913 01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, waiver wire stuff. And is it a blind bid? 1914 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, do you not know what everybody else is 1915 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna give? Or you know, so you make a bid. 1916 01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 1: So if the bill say we're gonna put a third round, uh, 1917 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,040 Speaker 1: you wait till the third round, you put your bid 1918 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,240 Speaker 1: in and then they award it. Save two teams bid 1919 01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,920 Speaker 1: a third rounder for Sam Beale. Then whoever has the 1920 01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,960 Speaker 1: who's ever ironed the draft order gets them based on 1921 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,040 Speaker 1: last year? Is a live auction? What do you mean? 1922 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Is this guys? Okay? Once you make a bid, you're done. 1923 01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:36,639 Speaker 1: You can't say, oh yeah, well I'll bid a second 1924 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,599 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Though, do they come on they say, okay, 1925 01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,640 Speaker 1: is anybody put in a first round? Or say or 1926 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 1: does everybody just blindly send in their big und okay? 1927 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,400 Speaker 1: First round? Over in the second round? Ten minutes? Who 1928 01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,360 Speaker 1: wants a second round? You want to use the second round? 1929 01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,880 Speaker 1: Or on any of these? Five ten minutes later, now 1930 01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:52,559 Speaker 1: we're in the third round. You know what I mean? 1931 01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,640 Speaker 1: I think that's how it works. Um. There have been 1932 01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,439 Speaker 1: a couple of famous I came across Josh Gordon was 1933 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,040 Speaker 1: taken in the supplemental draft. Yeah, and even going way 1934 01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,120 Speaker 1: way back in NFL history, they've been a couple of 1935 01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,440 Speaker 1: UM Hall of Fame receiver Chris Carter was a supplemental 1936 01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,880 Speaker 1: pick by the Eagles, remember that nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, 1937 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,439 Speaker 1: he was UM Bernie Kozar. The Bills were involved in 1938 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,680 Speaker 1: that nineteen eighty five Bernie Cosar. Now, why was he 1939 01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,120 Speaker 1: a supplemental draft guy? Because he only went because he 1940 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:24,320 Speaker 1: came out early, right, graduated ear he graduated? Yeah? Interesting? Uh, 1941 01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 1: Phoenix Cardinals, Tim Rosenbaut, eighty nine Giants Day Brown in 1942 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:31,360 Speaker 1: ninety two, teams went after quarterbacks and supplemental picks. Cos 1943 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,280 Speaker 1: are most notably all right a break career when we 1944 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 1: come back. One of the all time favorite Buffalo Bills, 1945 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,479 Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, joined us playing flag football. Now we'll talk 1946 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,599 Speaker 1: with Freddie about that, plus about a camp that he's 1947 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,800 Speaker 1: got for kids coming here to Western New York. One 1948 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,679 Speaker 1: Bill's Life presented by Kalata Health from One Bill's Drive 1949 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:58,559 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network 1950 01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 1: Sports Dane the update from One Bill's Drive. Bills running 1951 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,679 Speaker 1: back LaShaun McCoy has been accused of domestic violence, child abuse, 1952 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,760 Speaker 1: animal abuse, and other actorsations, all of them made an 1953 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 1: Instagram post that was uploaded earlier today. McCoy responded to 1954 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 1: the allegations about an hour later, saying, for the record, 1955 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 1: the totally baseless and offensive claims made against me today 1956 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,439 Speaker 1: on social media are completely false. He went on to 1957 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 1: say that he has not had any direct contact with 1958 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,519 Speaker 1: any of the people involved in months. The bills reportedly 1959 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,519 Speaker 1: aware of the situation, and that's all they have to 1960 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 1: say and all anyone has to say so far as 1961 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,439 Speaker 1: details are not yet complete on what exactly happened, if anything, 1962 01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,959 Speaker 1: with the Shawan McCoy terrible brutal pictures on Instagram uploaded 1963 01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,880 Speaker 1: by a friend of the alleged victim. Meantime, the NFL 1964 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,479 Speaker 1: Players Association today filed a non injury grievance on behalf 1965 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,919 Speaker 1: of all players challenging the league's recently imposed anthem policy. 1966 01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:53,480 Speaker 1: The union says the NFL instituted that policy without consulting 1967 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 1: with the union. The NFL will begin confidential discussions with 1968 01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,800 Speaker 1: the NFLPA Executive Committee to find a solution to the 1969 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:04,160 Speaker 1: issue instead of immediately proceeding with litigation. Salalo, the Carolina 1970 01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 1: Panthers to hedge fund billionaire David Tepper was announced yesterday, 1971 01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 1: completed yesterday. It's an NFL record two point two seventy 1972 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 1: five billion dollars temper takes over day to day operations. 1973 01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 1: He among the things he had to do was remove 1974 01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:22,519 Speaker 1: himself from his five percent ownership stake in the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1975 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:27,080 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers made their acquisition of Lebron James complete yesterday, 1976 01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,720 Speaker 1: signed him as a free agent, a deal that's said 1977 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,200 Speaker 1: to be four years long worth one hundred fifty three 1978 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,960 Speaker 1: million dollars. Tampa Bay Lightning to the NHL have signed 1979 01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,800 Speaker 1: right wing Nikita Kucherov to an eight year extension of 1980 01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,799 Speaker 1: kicks in in twenty nineteen twenty. It provides an average 1981 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,599 Speaker 1: annual salary of nine and a half million dollars against 1982 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,840 Speaker 1: the salary cap. Just about ready to kick off for 1983 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,080 Speaker 1: the World Cup semifinals. Belgium and France playing in Saint 1984 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:53,519 Speaker 1: Petersburg today and then Croatia and England meet tomorrow night 1985 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,439 Speaker 1: in Moscow, and Serena Williams advances to the semifinals at Wimbledon. 1986 01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,560 Speaker 1: She's on her way to She's on a path anyway. 1987 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,559 Speaker 1: To an eighth Wimbledon crown. That's the update from One 1988 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,200 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo 1989 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,840 Speaker 1: studio and joining us right now on the Subway Fresh 1990 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,760 Speaker 1: Take Hotline. Longtime Buffalo Bill, one of the all time 1991 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,280 Speaker 1: favorite Buffalo Bills and now playing flag football. Maybe you 1992 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 1: saw him over the weekend. Happy to have Fred Jackson 1993 01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,360 Speaker 1: on the Subway fresh Take Hotline with us, Fred, John 1994 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,720 Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker in Buffalo. Thank you for joining us, 1995 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 1: oh man. Thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it. Now. 1996 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,240 Speaker 1: I now you resigned officially, or you retired officially as 1997 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,240 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill a couple of months ago, but now 1998 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 1: you have a new team, Team Ocho, in the Flag 1999 01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,160 Speaker 1: Football League. Tell us about Team Ocho and how you 2000 01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 1: wind up playing their Fred, oh Man, it's a lot 2001 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,960 Speaker 1: of fun, you know. Just the possibility to come out 2002 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 1: and continue to play football and compete at a high 2003 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,840 Speaker 1: level is one that I jumped on. And it's a 2004 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 1: flag football league that you see if you were at 2005 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,799 Speaker 1: a chance to watch some of the games last weekend, 2006 01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 1: you can see that there's a lot of talenting. We 2007 01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,080 Speaker 1: have a pretty good talented, pretty talented team as well, 2008 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,360 Speaker 1: and it's being led by Oto Sinko. We have a 2009 01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,160 Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks that are good. One of them spend 2010 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,519 Speaker 1: time with us in Buffalo and Dennis Dixon. So anytime 2011 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,120 Speaker 1: I was able to get back in the locker room 2012 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,640 Speaker 1: and build around the guys, that was something that I 2013 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 1: was going to jump on. It looked like a lot 2014 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,400 Speaker 1: of fun and tell us about the I mean, pretty 2015 01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,600 Speaker 1: good crowd. It was televised. I mean, you've got, you know, 2016 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,640 Speaker 1: just creating a little buzz. I mean, what is your 2017 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,800 Speaker 1: just Is this why you're doing it? Just to go 2018 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 1: out and compete, be on a team and just kind 2019 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:28,760 Speaker 1: of just have some fun with these guys. That's just it, 2020 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,800 Speaker 1: you know. I think one of the things that we 2021 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: all know about any professional athlete is their natural competitors. 2022 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 1: This was just another opportunity for me to go out 2023 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,600 Speaker 1: and compete and play at a high level and do 2024 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,240 Speaker 1: the thing that I love to do, and that's being, 2025 01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,600 Speaker 1: uh inside that hundred yard fielding trying to make some 2026 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,960 Speaker 1: play for my team. So when the opportunity presented itself, 2027 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,680 Speaker 1: I jumped on it, just like I mean every other 2028 01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 1: guy that's playing in the league. We wanted that opportunity 2029 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,200 Speaker 1: to continue to play football and do what we love 2030 01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:01,720 Speaker 1: to do. And whenever that opportunity percentage, of course, we 2031 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,760 Speaker 1: were going to jump on it. Two touchdowns in the 2032 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,280 Speaker 1: second after Team OHO, you help them beat the team 2033 01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,599 Speaker 1: VIC twenty five to thirteen. I wonder what's different about 2034 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,160 Speaker 1: flag football fread Do you run differently? Do you move 2035 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,720 Speaker 1: differently trying to avoid getting the flag yanked out? How 2036 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,679 Speaker 1: do you work it? Well? I mean it's completely different 2037 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,360 Speaker 1: for me. You know. One of the things that I 2038 01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 1: always tried to bring to my game when I was 2039 01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,240 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL with physicality, and you got to 2040 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:26,960 Speaker 1: take every part of that out of your game, and 2041 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 1: it's got to be more for nest. I mean, my 2042 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,400 Speaker 1: first reception that I had, I got a penalty because 2043 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,439 Speaker 1: naturally I wanted to stiff for him the guy that 2044 01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,719 Speaker 1: was running up to pull my flag, and I blocked 2045 01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,840 Speaker 1: him from getting my flag. So it's definitely a little 2046 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,120 Speaker 1: nuances in the game that you have to trying to 2047 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,519 Speaker 1: adjust yourself too. But at the end of the day, 2048 01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:50,000 Speaker 1: it's just playing football. Man. We know that we got 2049 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,160 Speaker 1: to change our game from what we were playing in 2050 01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 1: how we played in the NFL, though, Well, what's next 2051 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,479 Speaker 1: for Team Ocho? You got that was the semifinal win 2052 01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,599 Speaker 1: that you just had, win of the finals, and who's 2053 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,880 Speaker 1: your oppon it gonna be? Well. Our our finals for 2054 01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,400 Speaker 1: the pro side of the bracket is on Saturday, and 2055 01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,400 Speaker 1: it's in Indiapolis, and we're playing against Seneca Watson's team, 2056 01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,120 Speaker 1: whom they put up a lot of points and they 2057 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:12,880 Speaker 1: made some great plays on defense. So it'll be a 2058 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,320 Speaker 1: good test force and one that we're looking forward to. 2059 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,800 Speaker 1: Where did you play? You played in Atlanta the other day, right, 2060 01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 1: we did. We were down in Atlanta and in front 2061 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,120 Speaker 1: of Mike Dick's home crowd. So it was a lot 2062 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,720 Speaker 1: of fun to be a part of. You know, at 2063 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,160 Speaker 1: the end of the night he said that he was 2064 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,840 Speaker 1: he was done competing, but you know, the next morning 2065 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 1: he rescinded and said he'll probably be back back out 2066 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,400 Speaker 1: on the football field again. And eventually you mentioned the 2067 01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,320 Speaker 1: professional bracket, there's a bracket of amateurs, non professional athletes 2068 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 1: who are also playing flag football in this tournament. Right, 2069 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,280 Speaker 1: that is correct, And uh, you know, the winner of 2070 01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,840 Speaker 1: our game will play the winner of their game. Uh, 2071 01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,760 Speaker 1: they too played Saturday in their finals on that side 2072 01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,680 Speaker 1: of the bracket, and we'll find out what America's team 2073 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:55,559 Speaker 1: will go through and which pro team will go through, 2074 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,799 Speaker 1: and they'll play uh Sunday, I believe or not Sunday 2075 01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:03,519 Speaker 1: Thursday of the following week. Yeah, the ultimate Final, July nineteenth. 2076 01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,360 Speaker 1: M The amateurs have a chance at all against you 2077 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,840 Speaker 1: former pros. Fred I mean, let's be honest. Well, you know, 2078 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 1: we we like to think that we have, you know, 2079 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,120 Speaker 1: a distinct advantage when we come when it comes to 2080 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,800 Speaker 1: playing football, But there are things that that in this 2081 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:20,360 Speaker 1: game that's geared towards those guns. You know. One of 2082 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,800 Speaker 1: the things, like I said, the physicality. I can't bring 2083 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,799 Speaker 1: that to the field, and that's something that I prodded 2084 01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,560 Speaker 1: myself on when I played. But there's little nuances of 2085 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,880 Speaker 1: of flag football that those guys have been playing for 2086 01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,080 Speaker 1: a long time that they know those rules and things 2087 01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 1: that they can do to take advantage of those rules 2088 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 1: that we're just starting to pick up. So um, I mean, 2089 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,519 Speaker 1: there's an advantage there, But at the end of the day, 2090 01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, we feel like we have all the tools 2091 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,439 Speaker 1: that we need to go out and compete against anybody 2092 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,160 Speaker 1: on that field and beat anybody that we have to 2093 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,320 Speaker 1: be where's the where's the final against? When the pros 2094 01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:57,720 Speaker 1: meet the amateurs, where's the final going to be? The 2095 01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:59,880 Speaker 1: final will be down in Houston, and I believe that 2096 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,920 Speaker 1: will be an eight o'clock game on Thursday, So it'll 2097 01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:04,400 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun if we can get down 2098 01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,120 Speaker 1: there and uh compete for that championship and a million 2099 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,559 Speaker 1: dollars doesn't hurt any anybody to compete for that. Eiven Fred, 2100 01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,640 Speaker 1: you're thirty seven years old. There are have to be 2101 01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,439 Speaker 1: players older than you in this flag football league, right 2102 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,479 Speaker 1: there is you know, we got one on my team 2103 01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,240 Speaker 1: and tad Tadino forty and almost forty one, so um, 2104 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 1: it's it still allows us to get out there and 2105 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 1: get those competitive juices going. And we also have guys 2106 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,439 Speaker 1: that you know, are twenty five twenty six years old 2107 01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,719 Speaker 1: on my team that are are looking for a chance 2108 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,679 Speaker 1: to put more film out there and let teams see 2109 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,599 Speaker 1: that they are still able to compete and move around 2110 01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,600 Speaker 1: and feel good. And it's just another opportunity for you 2111 01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,120 Speaker 1: to do so. So I think a lot of guys 2112 01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,200 Speaker 1: are jumping on it and taking advantage of it that way. 2113 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,760 Speaker 1: Reisit last spring that you played in West Virginia and 2114 01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,960 Speaker 1: that Spring Football league or was that two years ago? Now? 2115 01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,560 Speaker 1: It was last last spring and it was out in 2116 01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,560 Speaker 1: Napa Valley in West Virginia. But I played in the 2117 01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 1: one in Napa Valley that was not in the cards 2118 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,560 Speaker 1: for you this year, that league, it wasn't you know. 2119 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,519 Speaker 1: Once this presented itself, you know, this was one that 2120 01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to jump on, and um, you know, after 2121 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,240 Speaker 1: not really getting the looks that I wanted to after 2122 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 1: playing in the last year, Uh, I kind of just 2123 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,680 Speaker 1: figured this will be a better choice for me. Um, 2124 01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,439 Speaker 1: you know. And uh, I think that's a great league 2125 01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,600 Speaker 1: that they're doing, uh in the spring league, and I 2126 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:23,640 Speaker 1: think it's going to open the doors for a lot 2127 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,160 Speaker 1: of guys if they continue to do it. Yeah, that spring. 2128 01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:29,439 Speaker 1: Have you talked to uh the AAF or the aa 2129 01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 1: fuh the Bill Polian League that starts in February. Um, 2130 01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,759 Speaker 1: are you still thinking about getting back into contact football? 2131 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,240 Speaker 1: I would love to, you know, if I got the 2132 01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,800 Speaker 1: phone call, I would jump on it. Uh at at 2133 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,400 Speaker 1: in a in a heartbeat. Um. You know I talked 2134 01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,160 Speaker 1: to Mike Vick yesterday. You know, he's a coordinator for 2135 01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,800 Speaker 1: one of the teams. So I'm talking to him, just saying, if, uh, 2136 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,559 Speaker 1: you know, I can say the leagues and see what happens. Uh, 2137 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, I still feel like I can contribute. Uh. 2138 01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,559 Speaker 1: Granted I'm not gonna be a bell cow for anybody, 2139 01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:03,519 Speaker 1: but uh, pass protection and taking ten twelve touches a game, 2140 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,519 Speaker 1: it's something that I feel like that I can do, 2141 01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,559 Speaker 1: you know, in a heartbeat. So we'll see what happens. Fred, 2142 01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 1: Why don't take this the wrong way? But why is 2143 01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,920 Speaker 1: it hard for you to walk away from playing competitive football? Right? 2144 01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,519 Speaker 1: You had a good, long career with the Buffalo Bills, 2145 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,720 Speaker 1: accomplished a lot um, third all time leading rusher in 2146 01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:22,720 Speaker 1: Bill's history, you had finished up with a great year 2147 01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:25,720 Speaker 1: in Seattle, and yet it seems like you can't You're 2148 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,439 Speaker 1: not satisfied with what you did playing competitive football. Why 2149 01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,840 Speaker 1: is that? Well, you know, it's just it's it's one 2150 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,559 Speaker 1: year is what I'm looking for, you know, And it's 2151 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,000 Speaker 1: not something that I have to have. It's just something 2152 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,560 Speaker 1: that if it happens, I would take it. It's not 2153 01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:43,360 Speaker 1: something that I'm necessarily out here searching for, trying to get, 2154 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, hoping for. Um, It's just if if the 2155 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 1: opportunity presented itself, I would definitely jump on. Um. But 2156 01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,680 Speaker 1: at the on the adverse side of that, it's not 2157 01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,120 Speaker 1: something I'm out here searching for or something that I 2158 01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:01,479 Speaker 1: need to do. M you know, Uh, the season that 2159 01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:03,639 Speaker 1: I had in Seattle kind of left the bad taste 2160 01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,880 Speaker 1: in my mouth. And UM, you know, it's just if 2161 01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 1: if I had the opportunity to redo my last season 2162 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,639 Speaker 1: and something that I would want to do. And UM, 2163 01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:17,080 Speaker 1: I enjoyed my my time in Buffalo. I loved every 2164 01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:20,680 Speaker 1: minute of it and it will always be dear to me. 2165 01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,519 Speaker 1: And nothing's ever gonna change that. Uh me saying that 2166 01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:26,080 Speaker 1: I would want to play one more year, Uh, it 2167 01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with what I did in Buffalo. 2168 01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,639 Speaker 1: It's just me being a competitor and wanted to compete. 2169 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,000 Speaker 1: What about that Seattle left the bad taste in your mouth? 2170 01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 1: What did you not like about that? I just didn't 2171 01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,200 Speaker 1: I didn't get on the field. I didn't get I 2172 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:43,320 Speaker 1: think I had twenty four carries, which is is something 2173 01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,559 Speaker 1: that I'm not proud of. You know, I didn't, um, 2174 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, get the touches that I wanted. Obviously, we 2175 01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,080 Speaker 1: had two great running backs in Thomas Rawls and Marshall 2176 01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,040 Speaker 1: and Lynch out there, so you know they were gonna 2177 01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,280 Speaker 1: get to the bulk of the workload. But it just 2178 01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,679 Speaker 1: it left the bad in my mouth just because I didn't, 2179 01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,519 Speaker 1: you know, finish the way that I'm accustomed to playing football, 2180 01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:09,680 Speaker 1: and um, you know it's it's I just didn't like it. Yeah, 2181 01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:11,559 Speaker 1: I gotta understand that. I mean, you never always want 2182 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:13,599 Speaker 1: to end your career on a on a high note 2183 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 1: and a chant with a chance to contribute on a 2184 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 1: good team, and to go out and spend a year 2185 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:19,559 Speaker 1: where you just kind of had to sit and watch. 2186 01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,600 Speaker 1: I can kind of understand that you're not sitting and 2187 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,080 Speaker 1: watching this flag football though. I mean you're you're in 2188 01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,360 Speaker 1: a full ladder. I mean I see out there. This 2189 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,240 Speaker 1: is uh, it's pretty fun to compete again, and I 2190 01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 1: think that's what has drawn you to it, correct, I mean, 2191 01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:32,800 Speaker 1: this is a chance for you to go out and 2192 01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,559 Speaker 1: run compete again at a at a level that uh, 2193 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, not everybody gets a chance to do it. 2194 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,120 Speaker 1: Is and then and that's one of the things that's 2195 01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,720 Speaker 1: definitely drawn me through it is, Uh, you have to be, 2196 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, athletically able to compete with these guys that 2197 01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,160 Speaker 1: are out on the field, even on the American side 2198 01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,920 Speaker 1: of the bracket. Uh, those guys are athletes. And there 2199 01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,439 Speaker 1: there's guys that that, if given an opportunity, may make 2200 01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:58,120 Speaker 1: an NFL team. So um, it's it's not just your 2201 01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:00,639 Speaker 1: everyday runner of the mill that go out and play 2202 01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,560 Speaker 1: in the Flag Football League. So um. These guys that 2203 01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:05,599 Speaker 1: are in this league are talented and it's a lot 2204 01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,640 Speaker 1: of fun to be a part of. And even on 2205 01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,840 Speaker 1: the pro side or the team if or pro side 2206 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:12,240 Speaker 1: or the bracket, if you look at some of the 2207 01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,320 Speaker 1: talent that's on the team, uh, these are you know, 2208 01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:19,160 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guys that were on teams and you you 2209 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:20,840 Speaker 1: better make sure you have your a game when you 2210 01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,479 Speaker 1: step on the field. Run the subway fresh take highline 2211 01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:25,880 Speaker 1: with long time Bills running back Fred Jackson, who scored 2212 01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:29,120 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns in the Flag Football League the 2213 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,200 Speaker 1: American Flag Football League this past weekend. Fred's got at 2214 01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 1: least one more game to play, right Fred in that league? 2215 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:38,200 Speaker 1: Maybe two? Huh yep, hopefully the goal is too. We 2216 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:41,559 Speaker 1: gotta get past the one this weekend against uh Seneca 2217 01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,200 Speaker 1: and his guys, and we know those guys will be 2218 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,800 Speaker 1: ready you know. Uh, they came out and they put 2219 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,000 Speaker 1: up a lot of points against a team hold that. 2220 01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,679 Speaker 1: Uh it went the way that I thought it was gonna. 2221 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:52,720 Speaker 1: We had a chance to practice against those guys a 2222 01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,880 Speaker 1: few times before we played last Saturday, and they were 2223 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:57,760 Speaker 1: definitely a good team. So it'll be it'll be a 2224 01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:01,240 Speaker 1: competitive game. One we're gonna have to make some plays 2225 01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,679 Speaker 1: and win, and one that we're looking forward to. Fred. 2226 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,120 Speaker 1: Just about three months ago, you were here, You're on 2227 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,519 Speaker 1: our show, on our set talking about you're retiring as 2228 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,920 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill. I wonder, you know, as you look 2229 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 1: back on that a couple of months ago, what you 2230 01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:17,880 Speaker 1: thought about that and and your place in Bill's history 2231 01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,240 Speaker 1: if that came up in any point during the last 2232 01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,080 Speaker 1: couple of months as you look back it does you know? 2233 01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,599 Speaker 1: Buffalo will always be on to me, you know, And Uh, 2234 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:30,840 Speaker 1: it was fitting that I got the opportunity to come 2235 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,200 Speaker 1: back to Buffalo and retire as a build is It's 2236 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,640 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. You know. I think I 2237 01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:39,920 Speaker 1: made that known the entire time I was in Buffalo 2238 01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,360 Speaker 1: that I wanted to finish my career in Buffalo, and 2239 01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,200 Speaker 1: if I didn't have a chance to finish playing in Buffalo, 2240 01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,559 Speaker 1: would like to come back and retire as a Buffalo building. 2241 01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,080 Speaker 1: Being able to do that as something that I'm really 2242 01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:54,400 Speaker 1: proud of. I'm proud that the organization, you know, let 2243 01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,360 Speaker 1: me fulfill what I wanted to get done, and the 2244 01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:02,280 Speaker 1: fans have always shown me love in tremendous respect, and Uh, 2245 01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:04,639 Speaker 1: to be able to go back and fulfill the things 2246 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 1: that I wanted to get done is something that I'm 2247 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,800 Speaker 1: proud of and I think about it every day, and um, 2248 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, even playing in Flag Football League, I've had 2249 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to tweet with some some fans that were 2250 01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,720 Speaker 1: gonna be at the game, and I told them if 2251 01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:18,479 Speaker 1: they were there and I saw him, I would definitely 2252 01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,200 Speaker 1: come from them some love. And I got the chance 2253 01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:24,479 Speaker 1: to do that. So Buffalo is, like I said, always 2254 01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,240 Speaker 1: will be home to me. And anytime I meet a 2255 01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 1: Bills fan, uh, it's gonna be, you know, something great 2256 01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:32,040 Speaker 1: for me. I met a few Bills fans in the 2257 01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,360 Speaker 1: airport in Atlanta and I had a chance to sit 2258 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,040 Speaker 1: around and talk with those guys too, So uh, it 2259 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,040 Speaker 1: was great for me to be able to close that 2260 01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:43,960 Speaker 1: chapter and do it fittingly in Buffalo. Well, you closed 2261 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,920 Speaker 1: one chapter of your career. You're kind of opening up 2262 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,920 Speaker 1: another one. On August eleventh. This year, you're gonna have 2263 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,360 Speaker 1: the Fred Jackson Youth Football Camp is going to be 2264 01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:53,960 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo at Bishop time in high school. Um 2265 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,320 Speaker 1: talked to us a little bit about that while you know, 2266 01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:58,600 Speaker 1: tell us what it's gonna be, like, how many you know, 2267 01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,160 Speaker 1: how many kids are gonna be there? What what do 2268 01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,680 Speaker 1: you expect from this? And give us an insight as 2269 01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,360 Speaker 1: to what motivated you to have a youth football camp 2270 01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:09,120 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Man, the kids are what drive our game, 2271 01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, and the one thing you want to do 2272 01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,880 Speaker 1: is is is give back to the kids because those 2273 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:15,760 Speaker 1: are the fans of the future. Those are the ones 2274 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,400 Speaker 1: that are going to keep uh, the NFL what it 2275 01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,719 Speaker 1: is and some of the talent. You want to start 2276 01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,560 Speaker 1: getting those guys focused on playing football and you know, 2277 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,639 Speaker 1: not only playing football, but learning some of the things 2278 01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:29,839 Speaker 1: that are going to keep them healthy when they're playing football. 2279 01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:33,120 Speaker 1: So I got some great coaches that that will be 2280 01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,320 Speaker 1: coming back to help me. You know, I'm talking to 2281 01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:39,400 Speaker 1: c J. H. Frank Summers, uh, Bree Scott will be there, 2282 01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,000 Speaker 1: and Williams will be there. Um. You know, so I'm 2283 01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,160 Speaker 1: trying to get as many you know, guys that play 2284 01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:46,920 Speaker 1: the game with me to come out and help peace 2285 01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,000 Speaker 1: these kids, um some of the tricks of the trade 2286 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:54,600 Speaker 1: and how to stay healthy and have a long productive 2287 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,240 Speaker 1: life of any sport that they're playing. So, uh, you 2288 01:53:58,439 --> 01:53:59,920 Speaker 1: you you want to make sure that you get it 2289 01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,920 Speaker 1: many kids there as possible. I hope to get two 2290 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:05,120 Speaker 1: three hundred kids out there running around because anybody that 2291 01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,080 Speaker 1: knows me knows I'm a big kid, and I'm gonna 2292 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,479 Speaker 1: be out there running around, participating in everything that they're 2293 01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,920 Speaker 1: doing as well. So it'll be a lot of fun 2294 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:15,000 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to it. And like I said, 2295 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,320 Speaker 1: hopefully we get about two three hundred kids out there. 2296 01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,200 Speaker 1: We talk when you talk about what you maybe miss 2297 01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,479 Speaker 1: about flag football, it's important to note for the Fred 2298 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,439 Speaker 1: Jackson Football camp says right here, this is a non 2299 01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,080 Speaker 1: contact camp. Right, You're not gonna be run it over 2300 01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,760 Speaker 1: any of these eight year olds or anything. You know. 2301 01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,760 Speaker 1: I do do my best not to. You know, even 2302 01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,720 Speaker 1: last last weekend in the flag football game, I wasn't 2303 01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:38,960 Speaker 1: supposed to run over or sit for him anybody, and 2304 01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,240 Speaker 1: I still ended up doing that. So you know, hopefully 2305 01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:43,760 Speaker 1: I can you know, be aware of what's going on 2306 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,760 Speaker 1: and not have any physical part of my game come 2307 01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:48,839 Speaker 1: out at this football camp as well. And it's important 2308 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,360 Speaker 1: to note that that the camp, a portion of the 2309 01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,600 Speaker 1: proceeds go to a charity, Friends of Carly Right, Fred 2310 01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 1: tell us about that, yea, Carly's, Friends of Carly's and 2311 01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 1: Carley Club is something that I've always you know, the 2312 01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:02,720 Speaker 1: hell dear to my heart, you know, I had those 2313 01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:06,200 Speaker 1: guys out to training camp as much as possible just because, um, 2314 01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, cancer itself, you know, sucks for anybody, you know, 2315 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,960 Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's one of the worst you know 2316 01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:15,080 Speaker 1: things that people have to deal with. And uh to me, 2317 01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,960 Speaker 1: it's especially you know, heartbreaking to see kids that have 2318 01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,600 Speaker 1: to deal with it. So Uh, any time that I 2319 01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,720 Speaker 1: can give back to those guys and you know, brighten 2320 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:25,800 Speaker 1: up the days of kids that are going through those 2321 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:29,880 Speaker 1: treatments or or feeling sick because of the treatments, Uh, 2322 01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 1: it's something that I want to do. And with the 2323 01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,840 Speaker 1: families and and helping the moms and the dads and 2324 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:39,360 Speaker 1: the brothers and sisters that you know are having their kids, 2325 01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, childhoods ripped away from them. Uh. You want 2326 01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,800 Speaker 1: to give them chances to to to feel like kids. 2327 01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,440 Speaker 1: So um, you know, part of the proceeds will go 2328 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,240 Speaker 1: back to those guys to help in any way that 2329 01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,160 Speaker 1: they can and in any way that they need. So um, 2330 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's something that I'm proud to say is 2331 01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,280 Speaker 1: gonna be uh done with the process. Part of the 2332 01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,320 Speaker 1: proceeds is to give back to friends of Carling Jackson 2333 01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,160 Speaker 1: football camp Saturday, August eleventh, the time in high school. 2334 01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,480 Speaker 1: You can find information about that up on the unternet. 2335 01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:09,800 Speaker 1: Fred Are you happy? Are you enjoying retirement now officially 2336 01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,800 Speaker 1: retirement and playing a little bit of flag football? I am? 2337 01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,520 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that you know, I 2338 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,200 Speaker 1: try and tell some of the guys knowledge you if 2339 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,400 Speaker 1: you got kids, you become more busy with the kids 2340 01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,640 Speaker 1: than you were when at any point you were playing football. 2341 01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,360 Speaker 1: My kids are in sports all year long. Um, coaching 2342 01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:30,760 Speaker 1: my son, helping assist coach my son in football. I'm 2343 01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:34,760 Speaker 1: coaching my girls and basketball. I'm taking my girls my 2344 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:37,880 Speaker 1: son to soccer and track practice all the time. So 2345 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:41,520 Speaker 1: it's busy and I'm enjoying every minute of it. Is 2346 01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:45,480 Speaker 1: it's great to make it all about them now. They 2347 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,480 Speaker 1: used to have to, you know, not do things on 2348 01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,680 Speaker 1: the weekend because their dad was traveling here and they 2349 01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:51,960 Speaker 1: wanted to watch the game. So it's fun now to 2350 01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:54,440 Speaker 1: make it about them and see how much fun they're 2351 01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,360 Speaker 1: having in participating in all these sports. That's great. We 2352 01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,080 Speaker 1: hope to see you soon. Fred, thank you very much 2353 01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:01,120 Speaker 1: for being im to say good luck in the flag 2354 01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:06,080 Speaker 1: football tournament. Thanks a lot, Fred Jackson, third all time 2355 01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,640 Speaker 1: rusher and Bill's history nine years with the Buffalo Bills, 2356 01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:12,320 Speaker 1: one year with Seattle and racking up yardage in flag football. 2357 01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,240 Speaker 1: You think you'd ever played flag football, Steve, after you 2358 01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,520 Speaker 1: got done anything like that? Every interest year. I don't 2359 01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:20,080 Speaker 1: play nerf football in the yard. I don't. Yeah, no, no, nothing, 2360 01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:25,520 Speaker 1: No I quit. Um, I walked away because I I 2361 01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:28,040 Speaker 1: was done. I was stick a fork in me done. 2362 01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:30,880 Speaker 1: And uh so I and so I and I have 2363 01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:33,800 Speaker 1: trouble now and there's some once in a while I'll 2364 01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,160 Speaker 1: feel a little bit of competitive fire and you know, 2365 01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:39,120 Speaker 1: want to win a game or particularly when I'm playing 2366 01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:43,120 Speaker 1: golf or whatever. But um no, I am so, I 2367 01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,840 Speaker 1: am so over the hill. Yeah, and such a I 2368 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,480 Speaker 1: do think that's has never been has been kind of 2369 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I did not want to be 2370 01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,840 Speaker 1: disrespectful to Fred, but I mean he's always seems to 2371 01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:55,000 Speaker 1: be looking for the next football thing to do, right, 2372 01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,760 Speaker 1: whether it's the spring league or or you know, he's 2373 01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:01,440 Speaker 1: talking pretty seriously it sounds about playing it the Ring league, 2374 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,800 Speaker 1: the al Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like 2375 01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,080 Speaker 1: it's like there's something missing from his football resume. I 2376 01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,280 Speaker 1: don't know what it might be. I'll tell you what though, 2377 01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,080 Speaker 1: when I when I was playing, and it was almost universal, 2378 01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,240 Speaker 1: the guys that left the game under any other circumstances 2379 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,160 Speaker 1: than when I left the game, when I said I'm done, 2380 01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm retiring, I finished him. There was always something there. 2381 01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:26,000 Speaker 1: They when they were released by a team and didn't 2382 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,800 Speaker 1: get picked up for that last time, or they you know, 2383 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:29,720 Speaker 1: they got cut and couldn't get on with another team, 2384 01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:31,840 Speaker 1: or got injured and couldn't come back and got cut 2385 01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,480 Speaker 1: from the team they'd been with for a long time, 2386 01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,680 Speaker 1: whatever the circumstances were, anybody with a career that was 2387 01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:42,000 Speaker 1: of a certain whatever length, Uh, the way it ended 2388 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:45,200 Speaker 1: was always what stuck with him. Uh, the kind of 2389 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:47,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a bitterness with him. Where they're either 2390 01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:48,640 Speaker 1: the coach didn't like him, or they got injured and 2391 01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:50,400 Speaker 1: they didn't they they never got to come back. And 2392 01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, guys, they never they always want to end 2393 01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:55,800 Speaker 1: their career on their own terms. And and Freddie, you know, 2394 01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,480 Speaker 1: he admitted it to us that, you know, his last year, 2395 01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,960 Speaker 1: the one he had in Seattle, didn't go the way 2396 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,000 Speaker 1: he wanted tonight, he didn't get injured, but he only 2397 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,000 Speaker 1: had twenty four touches on the season. He wanted to 2398 01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:05,880 Speaker 1: contribute to a team and he didn't get a chance 2399 01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:07,160 Speaker 1: to do that, and that kind of left a bad 2400 01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,280 Speaker 1: taste in his mouth. And I think that's the refrain 2401 01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,520 Speaker 1: that I hear so much from guys who played who 2402 01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 1: didn't get to walk away when they wanted to walk away. 2403 01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:17,680 Speaker 1: And you know, he's no different than that. I mean, 2404 01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:21,320 Speaker 1: it's these guys make get to the level that they 2405 01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,200 Speaker 1: got to. And let's face it, Freddy Jackson was a 2406 01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:26,760 Speaker 1: great football player. And they get to that level at 2407 01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:30,520 Speaker 1: any position because they overcome obstacles in their way. And 2408 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:33,360 Speaker 1: when they get a chance and they want they want 2409 01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:35,800 Speaker 1: to overcome that last obstacle and they get robbed of 2410 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,360 Speaker 1: the opportunity to try and overcome it, they feel bitter 2411 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,760 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, we're wishing well when I did. Absolutely, 2412 01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,440 Speaker 1: he'll be back August eleven for his football. Hey. The 2413 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:48,080 Speaker 1: news of the day troubling news about LaShaun McCoy and 2414 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:54,440 Speaker 1: Instagram allegation against McCoy about domestic abuse, child abuse, animal abuse, 2415 01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:58,200 Speaker 1: steroid use. It featured some very troubling pictures, very upsetting pictures. 2416 01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:02,120 Speaker 1: McCoy denies it, says for the record, the totally baseless 2417 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:05,520 Speaker 1: and offensive claims mean against me today on social media 2418 02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,920 Speaker 1: are completely false. Charles Robinson is senior NFL reporter for 2419 02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Yahoo dot com, A very good NFL reporter. He tweeted 2420 02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:14,680 Speaker 1: out about ten minutes ago this and it's not much, 2421 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,240 Speaker 1: but he says the source says the NFL on the bills. 2422 02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,040 Speaker 1: They're still trying to determine if there's a police or 2423 02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:24,040 Speaker 1: hospital report tied to today's McCoy allegation. There isn't a 2424 02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:27,160 Speaker 1: lot of info available behind the graphic Instagram posts, that's 2425 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:31,000 Speaker 1: for sure. We don't know much beside beside the Instagram post, 2426 02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:35,760 Speaker 1: which certainly is troubling and repugnant. You know, it's awful 2427 02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:38,800 Speaker 1: the picture, But beyond that, nobody knows much and I 2428 02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:40,280 Speaker 1: don't know what to say about it. Beyond that, I 2429 02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,680 Speaker 1: feel awful. I don't know what it means a caller 2430 02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:44,920 Speaker 1: on the line, Patrick and Clarence Patrick, go ahead, you're 2431 02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:48,040 Speaker 1: on the air with us. Hey, Johan, thanks for taking 2432 02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:51,960 Speaker 1: my call on your show. Sure. Thanks. I just want 2433 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,160 Speaker 1: to say, you know, we hoard a society that always 2434 02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:58,760 Speaker 1: free judges people, and I'm not always Sean McCoy side 2435 02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,440 Speaker 1: or not even need to remember we need to let 2436 02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:05,520 Speaker 1: the Jujico system take it, you know, process of that's 2437 02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:09,880 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen or not even we have felt well, 2438 02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:14,800 Speaker 1: wait to see what happens, to let it. I weren't up. Yeah, 2439 02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:17,640 Speaker 1: the same, But I want to say I thought that, uh, 2440 02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:20,160 Speaker 1: I felt bad for us when I was a candidate. 2441 02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:22,840 Speaker 1: I remember your last game, you were adjusted on the 2442 02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:24,800 Speaker 1: worst call I've ever seen. You touched the rock. And 2443 02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,600 Speaker 1: then I wanted to say I always felt bad a 2444 02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:29,200 Speaker 1: few of the years. Was the last game when I 2445 02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:33,120 Speaker 1: was a big Saali as a player. Well, I appreciate that, Patrick, 2446 02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:35,880 Speaker 1: and yet I never I gotta be honest with you, Patrick, 2447 02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:37,720 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your call. And remembering that I got 2448 02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,240 Speaker 1: thrown out of my last game, I you know what 2449 02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:42,640 Speaker 1: we had that conversation just now about you know, guys 2450 02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,800 Speaker 1: being bitter about that. I never even crossed my mind, 2451 02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:48,240 Speaker 1: why because you knew that was your last game going in. 2452 02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,800 Speaker 1: I did, But you would have preferred a better ending. 2453 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:54,880 Speaker 1: I would think, Yeah, you would preferred to finish the game. 2454 02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Here's the way. Yeah, and here you know how you 2455 02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the mental gymnastics you jumped through when you're trying to 2456 02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:02,160 Speaker 1: rash realize whatever. Yeah way. I always say, you know what, 2457 02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,240 Speaker 1: I probably would have gotten a busted leg in that game. 2458 02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just gonna like, I got out, but 2459 02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,840 Speaker 1: I felt bad because I left my team hang and 2460 02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I got thrown out of a game that I could 2461 02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:16,920 Speaker 1: have helped him in. You know they but I wasn't there. 2462 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,160 Speaker 1: So I that I regret. But for me and in 2463 02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:23,760 Speaker 1: my career getting now, I appreciate Patrick reminded me of that, 2464 02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:27,240 Speaker 1: because that's amazingly that didn't even cross my mind as 2465 02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:29,600 Speaker 1: being a bad taste in my mouth away my career ended. 2466 02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:32,760 Speaker 1: I never have thought that. You, Tucky, I think you 2467 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:35,080 Speaker 1: have to hold the official as Mike carry he worked 2468 02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:37,360 Speaker 1: for CBS with me. Yeah, he was the guy that 2469 02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,960 Speaker 1: came over and I and I, as I said, did 2470 02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,120 Speaker 1: I get thrown on? He goes, Steve, I know you 2471 02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:44,320 Speaker 1: didn't mean to do it, but my guy dropped the flag. 2472 02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:46,640 Speaker 1: I gotta call it. And I said, so I gotta 2473 02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:49,360 Speaker 1: leave the sidelines. He goes, yeah, you gotta, you gotta go, 2474 02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:52,560 Speaker 1: and I and I reached out and I gret I 2475 02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:54,520 Speaker 1: stuck it. I stuck my hand out to shake his hand, 2476 02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,680 Speaker 1: I said, Mike, and I apologize, said Mike, I'm sorry. 2477 02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:59,839 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to put you in that spot. I'm sorry. 2478 02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Shake your hand. Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah, there was no 2479 02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:04,320 Speaker 1: animosity there. And you know who else was on that 2480 02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:06,320 Speaker 1: crew with him? And I didn't know this too later, 2481 02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:08,960 Speaker 1: Mike Pereira was on that crew too. The two TV 2482 02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:11,960 Speaker 1: guys were on my crew that threw me out. Pereira 2483 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,400 Speaker 1: didn't throw the flag, though I don't know who. I 2484 02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:17,040 Speaker 1: don't know who did. It's irrelevant. I really never found out. 2485 02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:21,080 Speaker 1: But you know, so, yeah, that never put a That's amazing. 2486 02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:22,960 Speaker 1: That never put a bitter taste in my mouth about 2487 02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,200 Speaker 1: how my career ended. It is amazing. It was. It 2488 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:29,240 Speaker 1: was notable. I've never has anybody ever done that before. Idea, Yes, 2489 02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:30,640 Speaker 1: there was a guy who got thrown out of his 2490 02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:32,960 Speaker 1: last You may probably have never heard of him. Jim 2491 02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,960 Speaker 1: Brown got thrown out of his last game for what 2492 02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he didn't know it was going 2493 02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:40,480 Speaker 1: to be his last game at that time. He got 2494 02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:43,040 Speaker 1: a he went to be a in the offseason, got 2495 02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:45,120 Speaker 1: a chance to be make a movie, and all of 2496 02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, he was making five times what he made 2497 02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:48,960 Speaker 1: just to show up. And he said, you know what, 2498 02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna try this movie thing. And he 2499 02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,480 Speaker 1: gave the football thing up but said that he did 2500 02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:58,440 Speaker 1: so you're in a good company. Yeah, amazing, that is amazing. 2501 02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:01,520 Speaker 1: We're back at more a moment. One Bill's Live from 2502 02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:13,840 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio, One 2503 02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:16,280 Speaker 1: Bill's Live every Day New to three. We thank you 2504 02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:18,160 Speaker 1: for tuning in today. It's been an interesting day. We 2505 02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:20,760 Speaker 1: got about thirty minutes left. I'm told they are fixing 2506 02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:24,040 Speaker 1: the ribbon scoreboards. That new air of field, that's what 2507 02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,640 Speaker 1: that construction is. Well, they got the scaffolding up all 2508 02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:30,560 Speaker 1: the way across the Yeah, well they already were sweet. 2509 02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I thought they were pretty good. They were, but hey, man, 2510 02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:37,000 Speaker 1: newest and best, our man, Thomas Hollanders says, new ribbon 2511 02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,840 Speaker 1: boards being installed there about one third taller than the 2512 02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:43,040 Speaker 1: old ones, better resolution, The end zone boards are staying. 2513 02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,000 Speaker 1: How does Thomas know that? Good for him, he's on 2514 02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:47,960 Speaker 1: top of it, on top of what's going on inside 2515 02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the walls, like you and I are, not exactly bet 2516 02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:54,280 Speaker 1: A good show, pretty good show. We talked with George 2517 02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Bozeka of the Pro Football Researchers. They're coming to Buffalo 2518 02:04:57,640 --> 02:05:00,560 Speaker 1: this weekend. Jenny brent As from MMQ being just Fred 2519 02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:02,600 Speaker 1: Jackson a moment ago, joined us on the Subway fresh 2520 02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Take online. Of course, the show dominated by the news, 2521 02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the reports about Lashawan McCoy accused of domestic assault, some terrible, 2522 02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:16,760 Speaker 1: really heartbreaking, repulsive pictures posted on Instagram. Shady responded on 2523 02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:20,919 Speaker 1: Instagram saying, for the record, totally baseless and offensive claimsmen 2524 02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:24,080 Speaker 1: against me are completely false. I don't know what more 2525 02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:25,560 Speaker 1: to do with that, Steve. I mean, we're gonna have 2526 02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:28,160 Speaker 1: to be patient, I guess, as Jenny rent Us counseled, 2527 02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:30,400 Speaker 1: and wait till the truth comes out. I don't know 2528 02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:34,520 Speaker 1: what the truth is. It's clearly a very upsetting post 2529 02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:38,839 Speaker 1: on Instagram. As Charles Robinson from yahoo dot com just tweeted, 2530 02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,040 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago, the bills in the NFL, 2531 02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,880 Speaker 1: waiting to see if there's police report or hospital report 2532 02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:46,480 Speaker 1: that they can work off of. Typically that's how these 2533 02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:51,200 Speaker 1: things move forward. And until we know about that there's anything, 2534 02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:55,480 Speaker 1: we say, anything anyone says is kind of speculating everything. 2535 02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:59,120 Speaker 1: And if social media is alive and is alive with 2536 02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:04,880 Speaker 1: every possible angle and doubt and supporting fact and supporting 2537 02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:08,920 Speaker 1: instance and discrediting instance, I mean, it's on both sides 2538 02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,200 Speaker 1: of this. It is rampant all over, and it's and 2539 02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:14,000 Speaker 1: it's fruitless for you and I to sit here and 2540 02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:16,880 Speaker 1: hash through every every mention we've had on our both 2541 02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:19,440 Speaker 1: of our Twitter feeds and one builds live Twitter feed, 2542 02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,840 Speaker 1: and it's it's almost been a fruitless because every time 2543 02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:26,440 Speaker 1: one comes up, the counterpoint to it comes up and there, 2544 02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:29,520 Speaker 1: and neither one is from any sort of credible source. 2545 02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, um, you know, this is gonna 2546 02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:36,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a dominant story on this show 2547 02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:38,960 Speaker 1: and every show in Buffalo until it's resolved one way 2548 02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:42,640 Speaker 1: or the other. But it is an ugly, disturbing story 2549 02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:45,760 Speaker 1: that got dropped on all of us here about noon 2550 02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:49,440 Speaker 1: about eleven thirty today. So we're still trying to deal 2551 02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:52,560 Speaker 1: with it and we're and I say this to our listeners, 2552 02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,600 Speaker 1: Murph and Night. You can imagine the conversation we had 2553 02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:58,280 Speaker 1: before we came on the air about how we were 2554 02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,520 Speaker 1: going to handle this, where whether we're gonna talk about 2555 02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:03,400 Speaker 1: it the entire show or not, and we're trying. We 2556 02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:08,080 Speaker 1: tried to strike a balance of being sympathetic to the 2557 02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:11,440 Speaker 1: victim here because there's no doubt it was a brutal 2558 02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:16,560 Speaker 1: attack and the and as of right now, it's been 2559 02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:22,560 Speaker 1: completely denied by the person accused, Lashawn McCoy, along with 2560 02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:26,480 Speaker 1: all the other allegations that went with the original Instagram accusations. 2561 02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,400 Speaker 1: And so this is gonna be something you're gonna hear 2562 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:35,360 Speaker 1: about for the coming days, perhaps until well you're gonna 2563 02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:37,120 Speaker 1: hear about it until it's resolved one way or the other. 2564 02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:39,520 Speaker 1: And there's no getting around it. The League is going 2565 02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:41,720 Speaker 1: to get involved, no question, and they want to know 2566 02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:43,200 Speaker 1: what the police have to say about it, what the 2567 02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:47,160 Speaker 1: hospital has to say about it. And it's been difficult 2568 02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:49,240 Speaker 1: for me. This is my first foray into a story 2569 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:52,000 Speaker 1: like this, being on the radio, So I'm it's hard 2570 02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:55,200 Speaker 1: to strike a balance between either side of this, but 2571 02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:59,080 Speaker 1: no doubt as of now, nobody's doubting the veracity of 2572 02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:01,280 Speaker 1: this woman's injury and what she went through. What a 2573 02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:05,560 Speaker 1: brutal what a brutal attack it was, um and uh 2574 02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:11,000 Speaker 1: haven't heard from her, right, So it's it's an amazing 2575 02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:14,120 Speaker 1: situation that that it's difficult to strike the right balance 2576 02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:19,240 Speaker 1: in because if if it's true, Yeah, if it's true, Um, 2577 02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean, all of society will wash their hands of him, 2578 02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:27,920 Speaker 1: of Lashawn McCoy. Uh. If it's not, you know, you know, 2579 02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:31,280 Speaker 1: you throw that onto the stack of the internet conspiracies. 2580 02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:34,440 Speaker 1: And it's it's crazy, but um, we got to deal 2581 02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:37,800 Speaker 1: with it. It's it's what we do. Yeah, we've talked 2582 02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:40,440 Speaker 1: about it all day. Yeah, two and a half hours. Hey, um, 2583 02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:42,600 Speaker 1: and the other thing we have to do is do 2584 02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:44,760 Speaker 1: our show. So three hours, you know, can we have 2585 02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,480 Speaker 1: three hours? We wouldn't know anything about it. I don't think. 2586 02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we could or would have advanced the 2587 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:54,440 Speaker 1: discussion much by focusing on it for three hours. I 2588 02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:56,640 Speaker 1: really don't. Um, So we do the best we can. 2589 02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:58,880 Speaker 1: We had our guests schedule, We talked to our guests, 2590 02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,520 Speaker 1: We talked to summer our guests, including Jenny brent Us 2591 02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:04,280 Speaker 1: about this particular case, and we move on. We move 2592 02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:06,520 Speaker 1: on with NFL true or false. We move on, and 2593 02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:08,960 Speaker 1: two we no more sea and when we know more, 2594 02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:12,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk for hovering. NFL true or false. Brought to 2595 02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:14,800 Speaker 1: you by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artists in Chiefs. Some 2596 02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:20,400 Speaker 1: interesting questions here today. Jay Cutler, NFL teams and NFL 2597 02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:23,800 Speaker 1: network should give up on Jay Cutler? Did you see so? 2598 02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:26,800 Speaker 1: Apparently his wife I didn't know this. I don't follow 2599 02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:30,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. His wife is on some reality TV show 2600 02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:33,960 Speaker 1: and he was overheard saying, uh. She said, well, let 2601 02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:35,360 Speaker 1: me find the quote because it was kind of good. 2602 02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:40,800 Speaker 1: His wife, Kristin Cavalery, on a reality TV show, said 2603 02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:42,879 Speaker 1: to him, like, what are you gonna do now? What's 2604 02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,040 Speaker 1: your plan here? What's the plan? In his quote, I'm 2605 02:09:45,120 --> 02:09:46,840 Speaker 1: not looking to do a lot of work right now. 2606 02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking to do the exact opposite of that. I 2607 02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:54,040 Speaker 1: love that. I gotta use that. At some point, Jay Cutler. 2608 02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,960 Speaker 1: Teams in network should give up on Jay Cutler? True false? 2609 02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,320 Speaker 1: I say true? Come on, he wasn't that good. We 2610 02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,640 Speaker 1: knew he wouldn't be good with Miami last year he wasn't. 2611 02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:04,400 Speaker 1: He was a failure, I think, and I don't know 2612 02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:07,320 Speaker 1: that he would bring much to the network broadcast booth either, 2613 02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:09,680 Speaker 1: So sure, give up on him. There's not much there 2614 02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:13,600 Speaker 1: left from Jake there and there's not and I'm he's, yeah, 2615 02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:15,320 Speaker 1: he's not that interesting. I mean, all of the reasons. 2616 02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:17,280 Speaker 1: One of the reasons he wasn't a great it wasn't 2617 02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:19,640 Speaker 1: like sought after guy team because he was a little 2618 02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:24,040 Speaker 1: bit of an aloof distant detached personality even came through 2619 02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:26,280 Speaker 1: when you saw the video clip of the quote you 2620 02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:28,800 Speaker 1: just said. He was a little bit distracted and aloof 2621 02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:32,240 Speaker 1: in that conversation with his wife. And I don't know 2622 02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:34,520 Speaker 1: that that would fly really well in the booth. I'm 2623 02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:38,120 Speaker 1: not saying. I mean some people I've been criticized widely 2624 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:41,960 Speaker 1: for my personality in the booth as well. But he 2625 02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:43,280 Speaker 1: put a guy like that. You put a guy on 2626 02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:47,840 Speaker 1: TV like Jake Cutler because you know, he's like got 2627 02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,960 Speaker 1: a Tony Rono, Tony Romo type personality, got fun guy, 2628 02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:54,800 Speaker 1: having fun, energetic. Jay Cutler is anything but energetic. I 2629 02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:56,440 Speaker 1: So I say, true as well, they should give up 2630 02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:58,920 Speaker 1: on him, give up on him, walk away from him, 2631 02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:01,400 Speaker 1: all right, t V people. Yeah, NFL true or false? 2632 02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Number two the league, the NFL should bring a game 2633 02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:08,360 Speaker 1: to Australia. NFL should bring American football to Australia. This 2634 02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:12,040 Speaker 1: came about because of a report from nine News Queensland 2635 02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:16,280 Speaker 1: in Australia. It says officials from the Australian state of 2636 02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,880 Speaker 1: Queensland have talked to NFL officials about bringing any game 2637 02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,960 Speaker 1: to town. Queensland's terms and Minister Kate Jones says she 2638 02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:24,800 Speaker 1: met with NFL executives and said, what better way to 2639 02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:27,640 Speaker 1: get Americans here than an NFL game. NFL should bring 2640 02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:32,200 Speaker 1: American football to Australia. Why not? I say true? Not right, 2641 02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,920 Speaker 1: not a regular team, not a regular season game. But 2642 02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:37,720 Speaker 1: play a preseason game there. They played in Japan before. 2643 02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:39,840 Speaker 1: See how it goes. I have a problem with that 2644 02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:42,840 Speaker 1: at all. The travel, distance, time zones, those all can 2645 02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:46,360 Speaker 1: be overcome. It's a challenge. But I think, yeah, try 2646 02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:49,920 Speaker 1: a preseason game there. I say, true, preseason, try it. 2647 02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:52,000 Speaker 1: I'll see if it. I'll say true. But I'm telling 2648 02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:55,920 Speaker 1: you what, man, that Australia is as far away on 2649 02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:59,240 Speaker 1: the planet as you can possibly get from San Francisco. 2650 02:11:59,360 --> 02:12:03,200 Speaker 1: For a last It's like eighteen hours past Hawaii. It 2651 02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:05,960 Speaker 1: takes forever to get to Australia. It's like a two 2652 02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:13,600 Speaker 1: day trip. China's halfway. It doesn't take takes forever. It's 2653 02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:16,840 Speaker 1: like two eight hour flights eight hours murder. You like 2654 02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 1: four movies on that flight from Buffalo, from anywhere, and 2655 02:12:22,360 --> 02:12:25,160 Speaker 1: you listen. If you're for you can go east and 2656 02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:27,760 Speaker 1: get to Australia as fast as you can go in west. 2657 02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:32,440 Speaker 1: That's how it's oppos No, I haven't, but I've heard stories. 2658 02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:34,960 Speaker 1: I just sounds like I'm just tired. I'm saying I'm 2659 02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna say false. Don't take a trip because I don't. 2660 02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:38,640 Speaker 1: I feel bad for those guys, and I might have 2661 02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,160 Speaker 1: to do I might well you and I might have 2662 02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:41,840 Speaker 1: to broadcast it. You don't want any part of that. 2663 02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:45,920 Speaker 1: You don't any part change the false I'm not for 2664 02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:49,280 Speaker 1: preseason finally, NFL trip or false. Brett Favre joining the 2665 02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:52,960 Speaker 1: Vikings the most shocking free agent move all time. Again, 2666 02:12:53,480 --> 02:12:57,280 Speaker 1: this time of the year teams media people look for 2667 02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:02,080 Speaker 1: for storylines and uh. The Vikings website says that five 2668 02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:05,200 Speaker 1: joining the Vikings way back in what nineteen eighty nine 2669 02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:10,160 Speaker 1: was the most shocking NFL free agent move all time. Um, 2670 02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go false on this would almost say, like 2671 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the bill signing Terrell Owens maybe out shocked Brett Farf 2672 02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:20,480 Speaker 1: going in Minnesota. I'm gonna say false. Wow, that's a 2673 02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,040 Speaker 1: good one. I hadn't even thought about that. That was 2674 02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:24,480 Speaker 1: a stunner. Remember when that went down? Yeah, you know 2675 02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:31,800 Speaker 1: what that man? Oh, that's close. I would say that's yeah, 2676 02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:33,560 Speaker 1: I'll have to say false. Then you're right there, because 2677 02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:37,400 Speaker 1: if Terrell Owens coming here was and that was a shocker. Um, 2678 02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:39,560 Speaker 1: so I would say yeah. And I don't even as 2679 02:13:39,600 --> 02:13:41,160 Speaker 1: hard if you go back in the analys as hard 2680 02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:44,520 Speaker 1: to think even Hey listen, I teas Thurman Thomas all 2681 02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:46,480 Speaker 1: the time about being a dolphin for a year. Yeah. 2682 02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:52,480 Speaker 1: But um, and Andre Reid was a yeah, Bruce. See 2683 02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:54,320 Speaker 1: if any of they put together a list of the 2684 02:13:54,920 --> 02:13:57,480 Speaker 1: number two they've got Dion Sanders joining the forty nine 2685 02:13:57,560 --> 02:14:01,960 Speaker 1: Ers in nineteen ninety after the Cowboys. Yeah, Curtis Martin 2686 02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:05,600 Speaker 1: signing with the Jets in nineteen ninety eight. Curtis Martin? 2687 02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:11,000 Speaker 1: Who who else do you play for? Patriots? Right? No? 2688 02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Did he? I think so? Reggie White, this was big? 2689 02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Do you remember that might be going to the Packers. 2690 02:14:16,080 --> 02:14:17,880 Speaker 1: That might be the one going from the pillage. There 2691 02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:20,560 Speaker 1: weren't a lot of free agent moves. Nobody wanted. Nobody 2692 02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:23,000 Speaker 1: wanted to go play for Green Bay. They nobody want 2693 02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:25,160 Speaker 1: to do it. And Reggie was the free agent of 2694 02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:27,280 Speaker 1: the time and written a Hall of Fame player. And 2695 02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:29,880 Speaker 1: that might be more shocking than the bread. There's another 2696 02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:32,160 Speaker 1: big one. Peyton Manning goes to the Brocos two thy 2697 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:35,840 Speaker 1: twelve shocking. Knew he was way somewhere. Yeah, they when 2698 02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:38,720 Speaker 1: they didn't pick up the twenty eight million dollar bonus 2699 02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:40,080 Speaker 1: that he was due, you knew he was going to 2700 02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:44,640 Speaker 1: go somewhere. So that wasn't a shocker. Um Rod Woodson 2701 02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:47,840 Speaker 1: joining the Ravens in ninety eight, Yeah that's pretty good. Yeah, 2702 02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:50,720 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Although, you know, quarterback safety is you know, 2703 02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:53,520 Speaker 1: it's always that, you know, the kind of farb was 2704 02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:55,440 Speaker 1: a big deal. It was a big deal. So we 2705 02:14:55,480 --> 02:14:57,560 Speaker 1: had the Packers stint, and I think it was it 2706 02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:00,960 Speaker 1: was much bigger obviously for for Bay fans than it 2707 02:15:01,120 --> 02:15:04,120 Speaker 1: was for anybody else, and and for Viking fans as well. 2708 02:15:04,160 --> 02:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he'd been he'd been beaten up on the 2709 02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Vikings for a long time and then you know came over. 2710 02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:11,680 Speaker 1: It would be like Tom. It'd be like Tom Brady 2711 02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:14,520 Speaker 1: coming to Buffalo or Tom Brady going to the Jets 2712 02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:17,200 Speaker 1: or somebody like that. So that yeah, so it it's 2713 02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:21,080 Speaker 1: different when it's Brett Farve. I mean Brett Farve. That's 2714 02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:24,160 Speaker 1: that changes everything. Curtis Martin did start with the Patriots 2715 02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:27,120 Speaker 1: third round pick in ninety five, three seasons there, and 2716 02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:29,440 Speaker 1: then went through the Jets and ninety eight through five, 2717 02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:32,960 Speaker 1: five time Pro Bowl great running back he played against them. Yeah, 2718 02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:35,960 Speaker 1: he's a good, great human beings. Yeah, he was great. 2719 02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:39,160 Speaker 1: NFL True or False brought to you by Yancey's, Fancy 2720 02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:41,680 Speaker 1: New York's Artists and Cheese. We're back with more in 2721 02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:44,560 Speaker 1: a moment. It is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, 2722 02:15:44,920 --> 02:16:04,560 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. What do we learn 2723 02:16:04,760 --> 02:16:07,760 Speaker 1: from today's show? Presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New 2724 02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:10,440 Speaker 1: York's homes and businesses with the finess and security and 2725 02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:13,200 Speaker 1: home Theater, the preferred alarm and home theater provider of 2726 02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:15,720 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What have we learned? Having three guests 2727 02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:19,919 Speaker 1: on the show today, including George Bozica, is assistant executive 2728 02:16:19,960 --> 02:16:25,520 Speaker 1: director of the Pro Football Researchers Association. Thanks George, and 2729 02:16:25,640 --> 02:16:28,320 Speaker 1: that group is coming to Buffalo this weekend for their 2730 02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:31,839 Speaker 1: biannual convention here in Western New York, the Pro Football 2731 02:16:32,320 --> 02:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Researchers Association. We asked George Bozica what that group is 2732 02:16:36,360 --> 02:16:40,160 Speaker 1: all about and what they do. Here's his answer. The 2733 02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:43,560 Speaker 1: Pro Football Research Association was actually founded in nineteen seventy 2734 02:16:43,640 --> 02:16:45,680 Speaker 1: nine at the Pro Football Hall of Fame by a 2735 02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:50,520 Speaker 1: group of historians vid in existence for you know, nearly 2736 02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:54,600 Speaker 1: forty years. Extuere LPR fortieth anniversary, and basically we preserve 2737 02:16:54,720 --> 02:17:00,280 Speaker 1: and reconstruct pro football history. We also a number of 2738 02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:05,760 Speaker 1: our members are you know, historians researchers published a number 2739 02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:07,600 Speaker 1: of books. If a books then published on pro football 2740 02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:09,320 Speaker 1: history has probably come from one of our members. We 2741 02:17:09,400 --> 02:17:12,400 Speaker 1: have three er and seventy one members nationwide and in 2742 02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:18,360 Speaker 1: seven countries. George Buzika, the Pro Football Researchers, they're here Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 2743 02:17:18,400 --> 02:17:20,520 Speaker 1: They're doing a psyche tour here of one Bill's Drive 2744 02:17:20,879 --> 02:17:23,520 Speaker 1: setting up their operations at the Buffalo History Museum. The 2745 02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:25,840 Speaker 1: good news is even if you're not a member, if 2746 02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:27,880 Speaker 1: you're interested you can't attend. There is a fee, but 2747 02:17:27,959 --> 02:17:30,400 Speaker 1: you can't attend some of the seminars and some of 2748 02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:33,920 Speaker 1: the discussions they will have the Pro Football Researchers Association 2749 02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:36,320 Speaker 1: and go to their website for more information at Pro 2750 02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Football Researchers dot org. Thanks to George Bizika for joining us. 2751 02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:44,400 Speaker 1: Jenny Rentas of Sports Illustrated, senior NFL writer and for 2752 02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:48,560 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrating and MMQB. Jenny was with US today. Wrote 2753 02:17:48,560 --> 02:17:50,400 Speaker 1: a couple of nice pieces over the last few weeks, 2754 02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:53,960 Speaker 1: including one about NFL players what they do in the 2755 02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:57,520 Speaker 1: offseason to make their communities better. He also talked about 2756 02:17:57,520 --> 02:18:00,240 Speaker 1: the new helmet hit rules changes and how this might 2757 02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:02,760 Speaker 1: play out in the NFL. Here's what Jenny Rnass had 2758 02:18:02,800 --> 02:18:07,000 Speaker 1: to say about that. I think a big emphasis was 2759 02:18:07,640 --> 02:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the coaches were worried, but I think they came out 2760 02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:13,520 Speaker 1: of the meeting feeling like, Okay, we're gonna ramp into this, 2761 02:18:13,640 --> 02:18:15,200 Speaker 1: and I think the number one thing they want to 2762 02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:17,480 Speaker 1: take out of the game this year is that top 2763 02:18:17,640 --> 02:18:20,960 Speaker 1: tier where players are pitched over like a battering ram, 2764 02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:24,480 Speaker 1: their their head in line with their spine and knocking 2765 02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:27,560 Speaker 1: crete that has the greatest risk of impact and so 2766 02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:29,920 Speaker 1: I think because it to see the emphasis on play 2767 02:18:29,959 --> 02:18:33,600 Speaker 1: for their time and space to make a decision. Jenny 2768 02:18:33,800 --> 02:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Brentas also joining us today. It was Fred Jackson who 2769 02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:42,640 Speaker 1: talked about his new football league, the Flag Football League. 2770 02:18:42,680 --> 02:18:45,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine it would be an adjustment for Fred 2771 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:49,320 Speaker 1: who thrived on contact right yard Jeffer contact, to avoid that, 2772 02:18:49,600 --> 02:18:52,480 Speaker 1: to avoid you know, people trying to grab the little 2773 02:18:52,520 --> 02:18:54,160 Speaker 1: flag out of his back pocket. I would think that 2774 02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:56,359 Speaker 1: would be he said. He admitted as much, it's difficult. 2775 02:18:56,680 --> 02:19:00,040 Speaker 1: Got his first touch, you got a penalty. Yeah, he 2776 02:19:00,080 --> 02:19:01,640 Speaker 1: had a little something to learn even then, so it 2777 02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:05,160 Speaker 1: was yeah. And it's it's interesting to see all these 2778 02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:12,200 Speaker 1: um different football leagues popping up around the landscape. Flag football, Uh, 2779 02:19:12,280 --> 02:19:16,560 Speaker 1: the AAFL coming in h running and the driving force 2780 02:19:16,600 --> 02:19:18,720 Speaker 1: behind that is is Bill Polly. And they've got a 2781 02:19:18,760 --> 02:19:21,680 Speaker 1: TV deal with CBS Sports Network that's going to come 2782 02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,160 Speaker 1: on after the Super Bowl. Of course, the NFL getting 2783 02:19:24,200 --> 02:19:27,160 Speaker 1: ready to gear up in training camp. The Spring Football 2784 02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:29,480 Speaker 1: League that we saw have four or five games this 2785 02:19:29,680 --> 02:19:33,840 Speaker 1: last spring around April. So it was a lot of 2786 02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:38,040 Speaker 1: football out there that guys want to play. Uh. And 2787 02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:43,440 Speaker 1: it's and with the media landscape the way it is 2788 02:19:43,680 --> 02:19:45,600 Speaker 1: and we get a chance to watch a lot of it. Yeah, 2789 02:19:45,640 --> 02:19:49,119 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. It's pretty interesting to see what guys 2790 02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:52,000 Speaker 1: land where and how and how the football, how it 2791 02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:55,640 Speaker 1: translates onto TV. It's pretty interesting. I think it's also interesting. 2792 02:19:55,680 --> 02:19:58,000 Speaker 1: I think it's important to keep in mind too that 2793 02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, the the word came out. Actually it's been 2794 02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:03,680 Speaker 1: a couple of year thing now that all NFL ratings 2795 02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:07,840 Speaker 1: are down. NFL ratings are down. This came across our desk. 2796 02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:11,360 Speaker 1: I gotta find it now about ratings. Yes, NFL ratings 2797 02:20:11,400 --> 02:20:14,800 Speaker 1: are down what nine percent last year, and that's worth noting. 2798 02:20:14,879 --> 02:20:18,560 Speaker 1: There's no question that's worth noting. However, I mean all 2799 02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:22,119 Speaker 1: over ratings are down for TV. It's not just NFL 2800 02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:25,000 Speaker 1: football here it is. There's a tweet out there that 2801 02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:29,280 Speaker 1: came across our desk. NASCAR ratings are down nineteen percent, 2802 02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:33,640 Speaker 1: nineteen percent, that's a fifth of their audience. NCAA basketball 2803 02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:37,800 Speaker 1: tournament ratings down eleven percent, tenth of their audience. NHL 2804 02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:42,520 Speaker 1: regular season ratings down twelve percent, NFL went down nine percent. 2805 02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:45,760 Speaker 1: It's not good going down, but it's not as pronounced 2806 02:20:45,800 --> 02:20:47,560 Speaker 1: as some of these other sports. So to your point 2807 02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:51,400 Speaker 1: about all these different forms of football that are being exposed, 2808 02:20:51,440 --> 02:20:54,160 Speaker 1: whether it's arena football or spring football, which that league 2809 02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:56,800 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a big hit. There's 2810 02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:00,080 Speaker 1: there's a demand for it, right there's a appetite for 2811 02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:03,160 Speaker 1: football in this country. It might not be you know, 2812 02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:05,400 Speaker 1: boxcar ratings like they were a couple of years ago, 2813 02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:07,960 Speaker 1: but they're still pretty pretty significant. Well, they were down 2814 02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:09,760 Speaker 1: less than any other sport that you can that you 2815 02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:13,160 Speaker 1: just named, and starting with you know, NASCAR, with NHL, 2816 02:21:14,440 --> 02:21:18,840 Speaker 1: even the NBA is down, and it's I think one 2817 02:21:18,879 --> 02:21:20,720 Speaker 1: of the reasons is, and we talked about this when 2818 02:21:20,760 --> 02:21:22,560 Speaker 1: we had this on this this little topic on the show, 2819 02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:24,560 Speaker 1: a lot of it is because people are watching the 2820 02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:26,760 Speaker 1: games and the sports on different venues. They're watching on 2821 02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:28,600 Speaker 1: their phone, they're watching on their laptop, they're watching on 2822 02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:30,680 Speaker 1: their surface, and that doesn't go into the television ratings. 2823 02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:33,199 Speaker 1: So if there's nine or ten percent of the people 2824 02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:35,199 Speaker 1: watching it on a new thing, it's still the same rating. 2825 02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:40,120 Speaker 1: And I do think that when you talk about attention, 2826 02:21:41,280 --> 02:21:44,400 Speaker 1: I think the attention is probably at least where it's 2827 02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:47,320 Speaker 1: always been for these sports, but the people are digesting 2828 02:21:47,360 --> 02:21:49,360 Speaker 1: it in new and different ways that are made available 2829 02:21:49,440 --> 02:21:52,160 Speaker 1: to them easier and easier way all the way, wherever 2830 02:21:52,240 --> 02:21:55,360 Speaker 1: you are, Steve the Shady McCoy News. The reports came 2831 02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:57,200 Speaker 1: out just before we went on the air. We've talked 2832 02:21:57,240 --> 02:21:59,920 Speaker 1: about it all day, anticipate we'll talk about it more tomorrow. 2833 02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Terrible pictures accompanying the Instagram reports. Just not a whole 2834 02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:07,520 Speaker 1: lot of information about it. I would imagine overnight there 2835 02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:10,160 Speaker 1: will be some more information, but to say that we're 2836 02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a definitive sense of what went down and 2837 02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:15,160 Speaker 1: what the Bill's position is, what the league's position is 2838 02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:17,400 Speaker 1: by this time tomorrow, I don't know. I don't know 2839 02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:20,360 Speaker 1: if anyone can say that. And that's not to minimize 2840 02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:24,640 Speaker 1: the terrible injury that it appeared on camera, and it's 2841 02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:27,879 Speaker 1: a disturbing it's a disturbing situation, a disturbing crime that's 2842 02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:31,840 Speaker 1: been committed. Leshaun McCoy has been accused of it, and 2843 02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:34,600 Speaker 1: he has vehemently denied it. Not accused by the police, 2844 02:22:34,680 --> 02:22:36,480 Speaker 1: not by the police or anything that the police aren't 2845 02:22:36,480 --> 02:22:39,640 Speaker 1: have yet to be heard from. There's still we've heard 2846 02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:42,320 Speaker 1: that they're putting together report now, nothing from the hospital 2847 02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:45,320 Speaker 1: that would have treated this girl that was this all 2848 02:22:45,360 --> 02:22:48,880 Speaker 1: happened in a suburb of Atlanta, no doubt, And nobody 2849 02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:51,520 Speaker 1: is denying that Leshaun McCoy doesn't have a relationship with 2850 02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:55,200 Speaker 1: this person, having not heard from her or the victim. 2851 02:22:56,320 --> 02:23:00,200 Speaker 1: And this is a story that is really disturbing for 2852 02:23:00,400 --> 02:23:04,720 Speaker 1: human beings. Forget about Buffalo Bills fans, football fans, Leashaun 2853 02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:09,080 Speaker 1: McCoy fans. It's it's a disturbing human story that we 2854 02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:12,720 Speaker 1: should all, you know, make pay attention to, not only 2855 02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:15,120 Speaker 1: for what it is in this particular entrance, but for 2856 02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:19,960 Speaker 1: the wide ranging problem that of domestic violence. It's it's disturbing. Yeah, 2857 02:23:20,320 --> 02:23:22,720 Speaker 1: and we hope we're trying to strike the right balance 2858 02:23:22,760 --> 02:23:25,200 Speaker 1: that we said a couple of times we hope that 2859 02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:29,480 Speaker 1: you will understand are either not being a paying enough 2860 02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:31,280 Speaker 1: attention to it, or paying too much attention to it, 2861 02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:35,520 Speaker 1: or not being concerned enough, or being you know, being 2862 02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:37,920 Speaker 1: melodramatic about it. We were trying to strike the balance 2863 02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:39,760 Speaker 1: and trying to be genuine with all our listeners here. 2864 02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:43,040 Speaker 1: It's a difficult line to walk, but and it's a 2865 02:23:43,040 --> 02:23:45,360 Speaker 1: difficult situation. We're gonna keep We're gonna keep after it. 2866 02:23:45,440 --> 02:23:47,480 Speaker 1: We'll see see. But what happens tomorrow. We may know 2867 02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:50,120 Speaker 1: more tomorrow. We want to thank our great crew that 2868 02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:53,119 Speaker 1: puts it all together for us today. Production assistance from 2869 02:23:53,120 --> 02:23:56,959 Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turino, 2870 02:23:57,360 --> 02:24:00,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Kargis and James Robel are produce through Jay Harris. 2871 02:24:00,879 --> 02:24:02,720 Speaker 1: We're back at it tomorrow at twelve noon, and make 2872 02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:04,840 Speaker 1: sure you join this in One Bill's Live presented by 2873 02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:07,920 Speaker 1: a Lot of Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo 2874 02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:08,640 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio.