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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Tuesday, A lot on

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Speaker 1: the agenda, Herd higher our key today. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams, s'morsh right in the middle of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What do we do with the Kansas City Chiefs? So

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Speaker 1: they had top ten team, What do we do with Seattle?

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd in Chicago, wherever you may be, however

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Speaker 1: you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of

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Speaker 1: your day. So okay, okay, you can say it was

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Speaker 1: just the Raiders. I understand that, but it should be

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Speaker 1: noted Dallas, the Quinn Williams down. They got that linebacker

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Speaker 1: back that that second round pick is healthy. So Quentin

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Speaker 1: Williams last night season high in sacks, one and a half,

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Speaker 1: career high end quarterback hits, another escape from New York

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Speaker 1: success story. Two things are absolutely true. Every player that

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Speaker 1: leaves the toxic New York Jets gets better instantly. And

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Speaker 1: Dallas is probably not as far off as everybody thinks.

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Speaker 1: Dallas has a top ten to twelve quarterback, run games,

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Speaker 1: good interior d line, Kenny Clark, Quinn Williams, the weapons

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Speaker 1: on the perimeter they stole George Pickens. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of playoff boxes. Now. The offensive line is young, They're

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Speaker 1: inconsistent on pass protection, but the Cowboys are after the

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Speaker 1: Packers and Seahawks, the youngest offense in the league. So

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Speaker 1: they are an ascending offense. And remember I've been on this.

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Speaker 1: They don't need a quarterback. Seven teams in the league

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Speaker 1: are deathperate for it. So those two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback is going to be overdrafted like it is every year,

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Speaker 1: and this year Dallas is going to be able to

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Speaker 1: manipulate that first round, those two picks. So Quinn Williams,

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Speaker 1: now you want he was an All Pro with Robert Sala.

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Speaker 1: That's what you saw last night. That was the Quinn

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Speaker 1: Williams that was an all Pro. Expect that going forward,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Kenny Clark interior alignment, so not all,

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Speaker 1: not all struggling teams are equal. Dallas is young, they're ascending.

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Speaker 1: They got a top ten to twelve quarterback. The Jets don't,

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Speaker 1: the Browns don't, the Raiders don't, the Saints don't, the

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Speaker 1: Titans don't. Dallas has the same number of wins as

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. And I would take Dallas ten out

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Speaker 1: of ten times because a DAK. I would take Dallas

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Speaker 1: ten out of ten times over Miami. So we can

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Speaker 1: all clown on Jerry Jones, and I you know, is

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Speaker 1: he the GM. Whatever he is, he's certainly not the

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Speaker 1: worst GM in the league. But I would say this

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Speaker 1: the offense, this is elite. They stole George Pickens, they

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Speaker 1: don't need weapons, running game feel solid. The O line

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Speaker 1: has to get better in pass pro. But they're all young.

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Speaker 1: The offense is young, and the two defensive issues they

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Speaker 1: have they can solve in the draft because they have

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Speaker 1: win six or seven games and they're going to get

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Speaker 1: an elite pass rusher in the draft. But last night,

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Speaker 1: we got to be fair about this. Donovan Azaraku, their

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. And they got back Demarvin over

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Speaker 1: shown the linebacker. They got him back. Well, he's an athlete.

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams, and I know it's the Raiders. I get it,

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Speaker 1: their athleticism last night. Quinn Williams a career high in

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Speaker 1: Escape from New York. So we can all say we

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Speaker 1: On defense, Jerry Jones said after they went over the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: You could say the mpag of the actually the players,

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Speaker 1: Again, not all bad teams are equal. The Raiders don't

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Speaker 1: have anything right, from the culture to the run game,

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Speaker 1: head coach, there's a lot of stuff. Dallas has the

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Speaker 1: offense right, A sending, young, old line that run blocks

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Speaker 1: pretty well. Uh, excellent weapons, stole George Pickens, Ceedee Lamb's

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Speaker 1: NFL right now. That's fine, Okay, look at all the

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Speaker 1: bad teams. I'd feel a lot better today about Dallas

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Speaker 1: with those two first round picks. Maybe go get Caleb Downs,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, go get a neg rusher. Problem solved. Young

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Speaker 1: athletic all right, so you get to the point of this.

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Speaker 1: I always think this is funny. In the NFL season,

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Speaker 1: fans lowis do this. I'll say, well I like this team,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, well, I haven't beaten anybody. Well, who's great.

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Speaker 1: I mean Philadelphia has won like twenty two of their

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Speaker 1: I mean Denver, none of you like Denver. Well are

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Speaker 1: I actually think they're going to remain in first place.

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Speaker 1: And here's why. What the next five games the Bears

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Speaker 1: those teams is struggling to find their offensive identity. Chicago

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Speaker 1: the Bears may be inconsistent, a little start stop, right,

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Speaker 1: that's an identity the Bears. You know, it's a little

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Speaker 1: like a Quentin Tarantino movie. Strong plot, excellent character development,

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Speaker 1: They have bad quarters, weird halves, they're good late. So,

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Speaker 1: You just have to have an identity. The Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: fourth worst passing team in a passing league, but the

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Speaker 1: is reready struggling because they're not a power run team.

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Speaker 1: Saquan's not as dominant as last year, so Philly doesn't

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Speaker 1: quite know what they are. Plus they have wide receiver drama.

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Speaker 1: it was Saquon turn hand off and watch them run

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Speaker 1: the thing about the Bears. You start looking at all

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Speaker 1: these games they play. Packers don't know what they are.

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Speaker 1: They're a passing team. The coach doesn't know it. Philadelphia, No,

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Speaker 1: Lane Johnson doesn't quite know what they are. Pittsburgh now

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Speaker 1: I think Chicago's fine. Again. Every game, every scene may

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Speaker 1: movie's over, when the game's over, you look up and

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Speaker 1: Still people out there, Matt Hasselback not quite sure about

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Speaker 4: Caleb is a young player learning on the fly, and

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Speaker 4: as he's learning, they're winning. He's morphing into Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 1: Is he there?

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Speaker 4: No? I don't think he is. He's really not. But

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Speaker 4: they seem to find ways to win. That's what happens

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Speaker 4: with DNA culture center type coaches. You set a standard

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Speaker 4: and then an expectation for the details and the discipline

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Speaker 4: that are going to happen in your organization every single day.

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Speaker 4: Do I think this is their year without after I

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Speaker 4: say all that, No, they haven't really beat anybody, but

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Speaker 4: the schedule's getting tougher here we'll find out who they

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Speaker 1: Well, we know who Caleb Williams is. Today is this

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth birthday. Happy birthday to Caleb, Happy birthday to

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Speaker 1: first Place, Happy birthday to facing fives right games with

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Speaker 1: teams with no offensive identity. I like Chicago, not even

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Speaker 1: gonna say I'm a good luck charm. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: a city with winners. That's all I'm gonna say. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, definitely. You know tomorrow's DeAndre Swift's birthday. Let's

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Speaker 1: you love you some bears. Huh Okay, what's what's a

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Speaker 1: don't get caught up into those numbers. Yeah, that kind

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Speaker 2: Heard Hierarchy time. If no, let's go the top ten

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Speaker 1: I think arguably the most talented athletic team in the

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Speaker 1: Nick Right is joining us. First things first, Johnny and I.

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Speaker 1: You could say I'm selling the chief stock. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: You sold it in the offseason.

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Speaker 6: You've declared this dynasty dead twice in the last three months,

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Speaker 6: in such a crisis that I'm rocking a ponytail on

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Speaker 1: So I'm not in a good spot.

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Speaker 6: And I was dead wrong about the game last week.

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Speaker 6: But you have been a fickle beast when it comes

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Speaker 6: The team you have number two, who again outplayed Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: a quarterback going into the offseason, quarterback is always overdrafted

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Speaker 1: this year, no exception. Dallas is one of the only

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Speaker 1: teams the Rams the other that has two first round

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Speaker 1: picks and doesn't have to draft the quarterback. Dallas could

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Speaker 1: manipulate the heck out of this draft. Move down, move down,

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Speaker 1: moved down. My take is Dallas is not the Titans,

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Speaker 1: the Jets, the Raiders. They're no. I am not that

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Speaker 1: they're closer, though I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Oh listen, I think that they are if you're

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Speaker 6: talking about for next season. Yes, I think next season

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Speaker 6: they're an interesting team. I think this season, the NFC

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Speaker 6: is too good in the middle for them to be

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Speaker 6: able to claw their way out of four or five

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Speaker 6: and one, just because you as far as making the

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Speaker 6: playoffs this year, I believe that ship has sailed and

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Speaker 6: you don't get the Raiders every week. But I agree

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Speaker 6: with you entirely that this could be a very intriguing

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Speaker 6: team next season in what seems like it's going to

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Speaker 6: perpetually be an underachieving NFC East. Like I don't think

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Speaker 6: that next year the Giants are all of a sudden

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Speaker 6: going to be really good, and I don't It doesn't

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Speaker 6: feel to me like the Commanders are nearly as close

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Speaker 6: as people thought. Obviously, Philly will be excellent. We would assume,

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Speaker 6: you know, they have the bones to be excellent every

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Speaker 6: single year because of what they've built there. The one

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Speaker 6: caveat I would have is the Jerry. It's feels inevitable

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Speaker 6: that the drama dejoure of this offseason for Jerry will

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Speaker 6: be the George Pickens negotiation, and as talented as he is,

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Speaker 6: I would have a little bit of anxiety about giving

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Speaker 6: that player real long term guaranteed money because of his

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Speaker 6: let's call it colorful history on being able to, you know,

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Speaker 6: stay within the dotted lines. But no, I agree with

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Speaker 6: you that I think the Cowboys are probably closer for

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Speaker 6: next season than people give them credit. But I just

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Speaker 6: I think because of what the Bears and Niners are

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Speaker 6: doing as a fight for that final playoff spot, that

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Speaker 6: they don't have any real hope of getting back into

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Speaker 6: it this season.

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Speaker 1: Like, I just think that's too far behind. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's interesting about the Bears now that I spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time in Chicago there, there's almost there's almost fear, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the schedule, Oh it gets really tough. And I showed people,

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Speaker 1: I said, their next five games, they play five teams

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Speaker 1: that don't know what they are offensively, Packers twice, Eagles, Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are good teams and pitch Steelers, they don't.

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Speaker 1: Chicago's flawed, but Nick second in the NFL in rush attempts,

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Speaker 1: second in rushing. They know exactly what they are. They're

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Speaker 1: a big playoffense, Number one big play and they run

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Speaker 1: the heck out of the ball, So they're flawed. They

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Speaker 1: have too many penalties. They're stop and start. But the

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Speaker 1: Bears don't. They have a real offensive identity. Packers don't,

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Speaker 1: Eagles don't, Steelers don't, Cleveland doesn't. I think they have

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Speaker 1: a chance to win the division. That's what I see.

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Speaker 1: What do you use? How Wow?

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Speaker 6: So that's a that's a part commentary on the Bears,

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Speaker 6: but that's also a part indictment on the Lions and

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Speaker 6: the Packers. To me, like it is saying that they

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Speaker 6: can win the division. So I let me respond, I

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Speaker 6: didn't expect that because I thought, to me, Bears fans

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Speaker 6: right now are just saying, can we please make the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: even though they're in first in the division. And I

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Speaker 6: do have to say I thought their win this Sunday

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Speaker 6: was one of the most I don't want to say

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Speaker 6: depressing wins, but needing a final drive magic to pull

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Speaker 6: one out of the fire against JJ McCarthy led Vikings

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Speaker 6: offense that could do nothing all game and almost losing

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Speaker 6: to them in the same fashion as you did in

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Speaker 6: Week one would.

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Speaker 1: Have been devastating. But they listen, Caleb has.

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Speaker 6: Been clutch late and so and even though he wasn't

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Speaker 6: very good over the course of that game and seven

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Speaker 6: and three. To your point is seven and three. I've

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Speaker 6: got to think, Colin, that the Lions will get it

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Speaker 6: together and that they won't look like they did against

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Speaker 6: the Eagles against many other teams. Now, I don't really

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Speaker 6: believe in the Packers, and I think the Packers game

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Speaker 6: against the Giants it felt like, man if Jackson Dart

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Speaker 6: were healthy, would the Packers have lost that game? So

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Speaker 6: I do think that in the NFC, Philly and Tampa

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Speaker 6: and the Rams are obviously going to the playoffs. I

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Speaker 6: believe Seattle is also, I know they just lost this

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Speaker 6: game is pretty obviously going to the playoffs. It is

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Speaker 6: really interesting to me how the NFC North plus the

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Speaker 6: Niners is gonna shakeout, because it feels to me, with

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Speaker 6: respect to the Panthers, like there are three spots available

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Speaker 6: for Lions, Packers, Bears and San Francisco. And San Francisco

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Speaker 6: just seems like it's already dealt with its injuries and

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Speaker 6: they're still right in the thick of it.

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Speaker 1: So which, Oh, I think we lost Nick right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll try to get him back. Yeah, I okay, go

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Speaker 1: finish it up. Nick. I don't know what happened. I'm

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Speaker 1: just sorry.

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Speaker 6: I was just saying I don't which of the NFC

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Speaker 6: North teams is going to be left without a chair

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Speaker 6: right now, given how they've played. I think Green Bed

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Speaker 6: is where my money would be, which would be so

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Speaker 6: disappointing to trade two first rounders for Micah and then

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Speaker 6: to win Week one the way they did if they

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Speaker 6: missed the playoffs, that's devastating.

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Speaker 1: I want to end with an NBA thought. So, the

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Speaker 1: Lakers have new owners, and these new owners that took

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Speaker 1: over the Dodgers have moved off Manny Machado, Trade Turner,

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Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger, Corey Seger. These are great players. I mean

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Speaker 1: Seeger is the best Texas ranger. Trade Turner won the

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Speaker 1: National League Batting Crown. They moved off Zat Grinky at

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Speaker 1: some point. Luca jj Reddick are the future, the coach

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Speaker 1: and the star. And Austin Reeves is Rob Polinka's find

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Speaker 1: So that you know GMS they want to validate their

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Speaker 1: choices and Austin's played his butt off. How do you

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Speaker 1: exit the Lebron business without offending Rich Paul Lebron James

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Speaker 1: his legacy. Because these new owners have proven with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: they'll move off batting champs. Elite players at key positions.

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Speaker 1: It is about a handful of Bets Freeman Hotep stars

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Speaker 1: in their prime. They don't want old stars, they don't

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Speaker 1: want people off injuries. How do you exit the Lebron

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Speaker 1: Laker situation with dignity.

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Speaker 6: For both Well, listen, I think you are accelerating a

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Speaker 6: process that's going to come to.

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Speaker 1: A natural conclusion.

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Speaker 6: So here is so I just, you know, fundamentally disagree

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Speaker 6: with the idea. I'm not saying necessarily your idea, but

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Speaker 6: the idea that adding Lebron James to any team in

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Speaker 6: the league somehow could be bad, Like that Lebron, who

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Speaker 6: last year was somewhere from the sixth to the ninth

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Speaker 6: best player in the whole sport, that dropping him on

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Speaker 6: a team will screw things up when he's been one

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Speaker 6: of the most malleable superstars in league history, and we

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Speaker 6: saw him last year as soon as Luca got there,

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Speaker 6: he played off the ball more and was excellent. So

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Speaker 6: I think this year this fit will work. Now, are

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Speaker 6: they good enough to beat the thunder? Probably not? Is

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Speaker 6: anybody probably not? And then after this season, Colin, if

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Speaker 6: he wants to play another year, I think it's very

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Speaker 6: on the board. That he does it, you know, maybe

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Speaker 6: a final stop in Cleveland. Maybe he looks out east

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Speaker 6: if he wants to do a.

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Speaker 1: True farewell tour.

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Speaker 6: But Lebron James is going to be a Laker this season.

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Speaker 6: I think that is pretty clear, and I think the

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Speaker 6: Lakers want him to be a Laker this season. As

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Speaker 6: good as they've been these first fourteen games, that team

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Speaker 6: we saw these fourteen games is not.

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Speaker 1: Good enough to win the championship.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that adding Lebron makes them good enough.

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Speaker 6: It probably doesn't, but it gives them a chance. And

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Speaker 6: without him, that team can't win three rounds in the

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Speaker 6: West to get to the finals. We'll see if they

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Speaker 6: can with him. But I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 6: be a messy exit. I think Lebron's gonna play out

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Speaker 6: his contract as he has with every contract he's ever had,

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Speaker 6: and then survey.

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Speaker 1: The landscape for the record. Just thirty seconds left, circling

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Speaker 1: back when the Chiefs lose to drop to five and five?

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Speaker 1: What's it like to be around Nick right in your

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Speaker 1: house in New York.

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Speaker 6: It's not great, Colin, It's I mean, it was Listen.

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Speaker 6: I'm not a I'm not liking anger I don't like

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Speaker 6: yell at people or you know, like you like take

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Speaker 6: you know, hit the dog or something crazy. But my

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Speaker 6: wife and daughter see the life drain from.

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Speaker 1: My eyes a bit.

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Speaker 6: My wife, you know it's you know, I think is

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Speaker 6: maybe the next day more than she normally us checking

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Speaker 6: our you know, joint banking account and like, oh, it's

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Speaker 6: a lot less than there was in there before. And

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Speaker 6: you know that I occasionally, yeah, I shouldn't, but you know,

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Speaker 6: indulge in a loose cigarette or two. I you know,

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Speaker 6: so I'll tell you exactly what happened, and then I'll go.

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Speaker 6: When they picked up that second and six to get

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Speaker 6: it to the twenty yard line, I still to this

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Speaker 6: moment have not seen the field goal. When they picked

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Speaker 6: up that play, that last first down, I said.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs just lost. I'll be back.

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Speaker 6: I grabbed my dog, I grabbed seventy five cents out

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Speaker 6: of our little change thing. I walked down to the bodega.

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Speaker 6: I bought a lucy cigarette and I smoked it and

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Speaker 6: was very very and then I thought about all the

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Speaker 6: people I had to contact to tell them how I'm

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Speaker 6: going to make payment.

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's what I thought about so

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Speaker 1: that was it. But you know what high highs low lows.

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Speaker 1: I don't do emotional hedges.

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Speaker 6: I do the opposite, And I understand that the Chiefs

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Speaker 6: dynasty is dead in the water and Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 6: looking up at bow Nicks. A lot of season left.

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Speaker 6: A lot of season left, is all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you, Colin Nick. Right, yeah, those listen.

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Speaker 1: It was it was close, like last two years, all

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs games, it's close. They were just winning them

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Speaker 1: last year and not this year. Live in Chicago for

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Speaker 1: her