1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Darry Church, 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs. 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 4: Ya get on in here. It is mon yay the 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: Cowboys victory Monday here on the Players not Lounge. This 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 4: is our show. But Jesse's on the show today because 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: we got a lot of people already. Yeah, we had 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 4: a lot of people already taking vacation time. Barry me, 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: not you, my man with the double dip delights, right. 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: Call me mister double Delight from. 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: Now on, please miss the double dip Delight. How did 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: I miss that? 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? The other show they called me something Peppa pop 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: you I call myself. 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: Oh wow, this is this is I was on my way. 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: I was on my way. I was on my way 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: to the to the All you need now, man, is 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: like a mistletoe hanging over the top of you. Man. 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: You know you gotta. 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: Because I already mess around in hr. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: My dude, you know my dude. Hr Hey, we know 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: the thin line that you walked Jesse Jesse Jesse and 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: Jesse Park. I don't they love Jesse Holly the trailer 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 4: park baby. They know him by his first name, his 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 4: government as we call him. But welcome to the taj 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 4: Ma Hall of Football. This is the Players Lounge sponsored 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: by Aristocrat Gaming. I'm Heck Maharrison at the desk. As always, 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: Newie Screwds is on the way, and as I stated, 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: Jesse Holly is in the building with me. Man and 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: Victory Monday twenty six, twenty four made it interesting yesterday 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: and from me because I haven't had an opportunity to 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: hear your opinion yet, I'm gonna tell you that I 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: left that stadium really proud of the Dallas Cowboys, proud 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 4: of the fact that going into that game, I said, 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: this is me, they gonna go ahead and lay down 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: because they don't have anything to play for. And you, 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: as a former NFL player familiar with being on teams 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: where man, either we're going to the playoffs or we're 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: going home. In those situations, you'd like for them to 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 4: come later in the season, to come with there still 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: being three games left, right, So a lot of things 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: get exposed in that situation, especially with the way that 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: the season already been going. I figured against a Tampa 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: Bay team that absolutely needed that victory to keep pace. 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: They would come in and they would smash the gas 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: on the Cowboys and the Cowboys defense with that vaunted 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 4: running game. You talked about those two guys in the 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: way that they were gonna run the ball. You talked 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: about the vitaves of the world, and how they were 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: going to be all over that offensive line and where 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: the warm, fuzzy feelings of this offensive line where those 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: things may have gone. The Cowboys defense and Cooper Rush 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: showed up in Arlington and they showed out. They pulled 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: it off, and it's not like you didn't have the 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: ebbs and flows. The defense came to play and a 59 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: guy named one Duran Bland. I'm gonna find out what 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: his nickname is, what his cousin nim call him, but men. 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: Something like that. 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: And this is a guy man that we we really 63 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: went to the beginning of the season not really getting 64 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: a lot of him and Trayvon Diggs together. But you 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: see his value. You see how much that guy can 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: and paint it just it leaves so much to be 67 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: desired with those two being on the field together. In 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: Cowboy Nation just hadn't been able to enjoy that. But 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: Darron Blaird had a match up you talked about it 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: also a matchup with Mike Evans, and Mike Evans got his, 71 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: but Darron Bland got his too, Jesse, what do you 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: think about the game? 73 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 5: Similar to your point, I thought, even even before hearing 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: the news of the Cowboys are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention, 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: I thought, you know, man, with everything Tim Bay had 76 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: to play for, they were riding the four game winning streak, 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: they were I mean. 78 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: They were hot. 79 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: I thought Tampa Bay's offense, the way that Liam Cohen 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 5: calls that a lot of the pres and motions. 82 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: And the bunches and the shifts and all. 83 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 5: I thought, man, this is the one thing that really 84 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: gets the Cowboys defensively to be a little bit off kilter. 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: And then you started adding on the factors of the 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 5: playoff contention thing. Then you start adding the factor is 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: you don't have your green dot signal caller and Eric 88 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: Kendrick he didn't play uh in that game. And I 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 5: was like, oh, this is gonna beat when I thought 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 5: it was going to be. You know what I'm saying, 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 5: He's like, well, who's gonna like they either Damon Clark 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 5: hates them or they hate the Moon Clark because they were. 93 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: Like both, probably both. 94 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 5: And they were like, We're gonna go with Nick Vigil 95 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, okay. First of all, right, 96 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 5: and this is a guy who you know, he he 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 5: doesn't practic it's a lot during the week because of 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: the foot injury, so they trusted him enough to be 99 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 5: the green dot over Maris Lula foul and man, they 100 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: play with a bunch of pride. And I said it 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 5: in the previous show, Kudos to those guys. Kudos to 102 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: those men for going out there with really nothing as 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 5: far as the game standings mattering. But to them it 104 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: mattered that we go out here and we win the game. 105 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 5: And I get that because winning, winning is the only thing, 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 5: right all I want to do is win. And they 107 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 5: went out there with really nothing to play for and 108 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: played a tough, tough, tough football game. And I'm not 109 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: into the he did it for the They did it 110 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: for themselves. 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta talk to you about something because 112 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: the show we were on previously, you mentioned Cohen, the 113 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator for Tampa. I wanted to argue with you 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: about him, and I did. I wanted to argue, but 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: I just I let it go because I wanted to 116 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 4: set eyes on this offense myself. And let me tell 117 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: you how much I agree with you and in his 118 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: genius as a play caller, because never at one point 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: in time in that game that I feel like Tampa 120 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: was off balance. They stayed with a hefty running attack, 121 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: and they also hit you with the hefty passing game. 122 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, they still used Baker Mayfield's 123 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 4: legs when they needed to. I think they use a quarterback. 124 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Then you also mentioned that he's a gun slinger that 125 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: thinks his arm is better than it is, but thank 126 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: god he hadn't been exposed as far as his arm 127 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: is concerned. Yet he plays within himself well enough. But 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: I think Zimmer came with a defensive game plan that 129 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: nullified a lot of that. You basically saw a lot 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: of zone, a lot of they played off a lot, 131 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: but when you needed it, he applied some press there 132 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: on Mike Evans, and I thought that was a hell 133 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: of a gamble. How do you think this secondary measured 134 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: up versus that receiving core that you knew there were 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: gonna be some holes in it, especially in the safety 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 4: back half. How did you think that the secondary matched 137 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: up and how did you think the scheme for Zim 138 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: are also matched up with Cohen. 139 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 5: I think what Zim did and is mixing up when 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 5: to bring pleasure because when you line up, the first 141 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 5: thing you looking for win number eleven, and that always 142 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 5: is a a deciding factor. 143 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: Right. 144 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: He is a force multiplier by himself, and that causes 145 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 5: quarterbacks at times to kind of rush their process and 146 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: not have a lot of time because when you look 147 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: at what what Liam Cohen does and his routes, he 148 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: is a layered Uh, He's a layer route caller. So 149 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 5: all of his routes are When I say layered, I 150 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: mean there's going to be a short option, and then 151 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 5: if you give him another second, here comes the secondary option. 152 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 5: And if you give him another second, here comes that 153 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 5: third option. Or you know what I'm saying, developing. That's 154 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 5: a word of yes. So his layer developing routes. But 155 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: when you don't have time because your clock is going 156 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: off and you hear eleven growling and breathing down your neck, 157 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 5: you're trying to get the ball off as possible as 158 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 5: fast as you can. And that's where you start talking 159 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: about out I mix. There's a good mixture of when 160 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: I press and him. What pressing does. When you have 161 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: a guy like Mike Evans and you have him and 162 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 5: Duran going back and forth, it throws timing off, right, 163 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: It throws the timing off of Okay, my first read 164 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: isn't open. My second read should be coming open. Oh 165 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 5: he's not there, in which in turns closes the window 166 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: to my third read. See, I need my second one 167 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: to come open because with that action, is I'm gonna 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 5: get him the ball or it's gonna draw someone else 169 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 5: into that into that window, and now I can go 170 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 5: to that other guy. But when you jam guys up, 171 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: and I thought the one holding call to Duran Blend 172 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 5: had to get to him. Old school football, say you 173 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 5: got jammed up, my dude. That wasn't holding to me. 174 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: And I'm fair when it comes to both sides and 175 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 5: calling the play. He jammed Mike Evans up all the 176 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: way down the football field. But it was a combination 177 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 5: of throwing timing off in the back end with the 178 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 5: press coverage and then being able to apply pressure with 179 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: the different looks up front and having Micah company being 180 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 5: able to get the Baker mayfield and having him get 181 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 5: off his reads faster than what he wanted to. So 182 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: it was a good back and forth chess match throughout 183 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 5: that game, and the Cowboys came away with it at 184 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 5: the end because they made a little bit more plays 185 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 5: than Tampa BA was able to make in that game. 186 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: But I think the and I don't want to go 187 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 5: off key, I think the one thing that we were 188 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: not talking about enough in this game, and to me, 189 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 5: it was the reason that they won the game, and 190 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 5: it wasn't offensively, and it wasn't defensively. 191 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: This is a two point game. 192 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 5: Brendan Aubrey misses any one of those fifty plus yard 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 5: field goals in the game. 194 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: He had three or four. 195 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 5: Field goals in this game. He missed any one of those. 196 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: We're talking, we're coming here. It ain't a Monday, you 197 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. It's a mundane Monday, right, you 198 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And those are the things that 199 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 5: I think that's the special team aspect of it, where 200 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: you don't talk much about it, but without it, you 201 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 5: don't win this football game. 202 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: You Yeah, yeah, he lose by one point. I mean 203 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: you bring up a special point, and I think special teams. Obviously, 204 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: it's the gift and the curse of special teams each 205 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: and every week, and everybody, guys like you that made 206 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: their bones in the NFL by playing special teams point 207 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: that out all the time. And also, you know, hold 208 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: coach Fossil's feet to the fire on some of those 209 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: bone head mistakes that are made. But when you see 210 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 4: a guy like Brandon Aubry who was stand alone and 211 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: does it, and man, what a what a treaty is 212 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: to have a guy that you know that can make 213 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 4: field goals from fifty eight yards. You turn on television 214 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: every Sunday you saw and that Commander's in Philly game, 215 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: a guy that just I'm like, damn, we are spoiled. 216 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 4: We are spoiled about. 217 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: Like when they talk about that Commanders Eagles game, their kicker, 218 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: I think missed missed fourteen of them this season. 219 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brandon made fourteen of them. 220 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you're short, you know what I'm saying. 221 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: That's that's the determining factor. Yeah, you know like that 222 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 5: that matters, And it's always special teams. It's alway one 223 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: of those things where it doesn't matter until it matters. 224 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And my other thing 225 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: is is, you know, obviously in your evaluation of the game, 226 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: you being in the former NFL player and the analyst 227 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: Jesse Holly's on the Players Lounge which is with us today, 228 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: and you talked about the running game from Tampa Bay. 229 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: They ended up having one hundred and thirty four yards. 230 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: Speak clear, Bucky Irving sixteen for sixty eight, Baker Mayfield 231 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: three for forty two, but Rashad White three for ten. 232 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: When you talk about those runs, basically you were not 233 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: being gashed in your defense what you expect. They gave 234 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: up and the longest run was to Baker Mayfield for 235 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: eighteen yards. But guys like guys like Nick Vigil who 236 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: we were just joking like who is him? And murce Lefoul, 237 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: your linebacking crew, young inexperience showed up for you. That 238 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: was a big part of this victory also. 239 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 5: It was and that's when you're down as many guys 240 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 5: as the Cowboys have been down throughout this season. I 241 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 5: need contributions and I don't need you to be two 242 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 5: thousand Ray Lewis. I don't need that b we's supposed 243 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 5: to be, bwe is supposed to be. And then with 244 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: the plays that you're supposed to make, see Ray goes 245 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 5: and make plays out of his own out of his 246 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: space intelligence, beyond belief. 247 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Here's what I need. 248 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 6: You to do. 249 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 5: If you're supposed to be here, be here. If you're 250 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 5: supposed to, take on this blocker, take on this blocker, 251 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 5: if you're supposed to be scraping, scrape if you're supposed to. 252 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: When I get that, now, my guys that are supposed 253 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 5: to be doing their job is allowed to because I don't. 254 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: I don't have the room they talked about during the game. 255 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 5: They kept talking about like how Levonte David and Vida 256 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: Veya would play off one another and Levante would tell Via, hey, yo, 257 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 5: stay at your gap. I'm about to go room, or it. 258 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Be vice versa, Yo, you go room. I got your back. 259 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 5: See, when you don't have that level of players, I 260 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 5: need everybody to do their job. If everybody do their job, 261 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 5: then we limit, we limit the big plays, and we 262 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: play the percentages and we say to ourselves, all right, cool, 263 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: we'll get down to this thing. We'll we'll we'll, we'll 264 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 5: ben but we won't break. 265 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: And they'll make the mistake. 266 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 5: And I think that's what those guys like Nick Visual, 267 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 5: like Maris lil Foul and others, just doing their job 268 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 5: on a consistent basis gives you an opportunity at least 269 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: to have guys in the right place. 270 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 7: Is that what you learn from Belichick being up there 271 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 7: with New England when you talked about that, Now, I 272 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 7: learned that from my grandma a long time ago. 273 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: The boy, do what I tell you to do. If 274 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: you do what I tell you, you be all right. 275 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 276 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: Grandma tell you that, Hey, when you get in this house, 277 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 5: lock that door to open it for nobody. I got 278 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 5: the key. Don't touch that stove. You will make your 279 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 5: pean of butter. 280 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 8: No. 281 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: But but I'm joking, but I'm dead serious as well. 282 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: But yes, when you're in places like New England. And 283 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: that was the one thing that Bill Belichick was always 284 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 5: always on top of. He would tell you when I 285 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: when I first signed with New England, I sat down 286 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: and had a meeting, like I talked to Bill Belichick 287 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 5: and he basically said, here's what I need for you 288 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: to do. Can you do X, Y and Z. I 289 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: said yes, he said, fine, if you can do these 290 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 5: at a high rate, you'll be just fine. 291 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: And that's what he asks his team to say. 292 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 5: I need I need all of y'all to do exactly 293 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: what I asked you to do. If you do that, 294 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: we will find ourselves in a winning position. I don't 295 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: need you to go outside and do nothing else. I 296 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: don't need you to be superman or superhero. If I 297 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: say go from point A to point B, go to 298 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: point A to point B. Don't don't dip off to C. 299 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: Think about D or you saw F go A to 300 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: B because I got somebody else going to C. All 301 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 5: y'all do what you're supposed to do. Then this guy 302 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: back here, go make it right. I've heard coaches say 303 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: you're not talented enough to improvise. Yet you're not there yet. 304 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 7: I never play the collegiate level that you guys played 305 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 7: high school. Dude, But I remember we said that just 306 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 7: one coach. What were you thinking, Well, coach, I thought 307 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 7: that's the problem. 308 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: You thought. 309 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: That's true. 310 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: Don't think that's the that's the truth. Nowise scrugs back 311 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: in the building. I always love watching those. When you 312 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: watch those Sunday night games, you know, you're sitting there, 313 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: you're watching the TV and you see the Sunday Night 314 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: and then all now, he shrugs, NBC. I'm like this guy, 315 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: he's everywhere you turn the TV, struts watch So it's 316 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: it's so different man, watching it watching the TV live. 317 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: I mean, excuse me. Watching the game live is so 318 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: much it's so much different from the TV. Yeah, man, 319 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: he come in and walk in. You need to get 320 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: haze for walking in there. The Book of Integrity with 321 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: breaking the book, which. 322 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: I was actually working today. I was over TCU. 323 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 7: They getting ready for the well, they got the arm 324 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 7: Forces Bowl ready for Arm Forces Bowl and Navy Oklahoma 325 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 7: boy Oklahoma to bell off, and then TCU was prepping 326 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 7: for New Mexico Bowl. So I had to do interviews 327 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 7: over there, so leaving forward because. 328 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: They came late. They were late. 329 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 7: Sonny got hi la, he said, ironically, and you guys 330 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 7: are playing bowl games. Nobody was really excited about for 331 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 7: tc BY going to the Mexico Bowl. So I just 332 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 7: I just thiged, I'm gonna. 333 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: Ask the question. 334 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 7: So as JP Richardson, a lot of fans weren't real 335 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 7: hyped about the New Mexico Bowl. What about you it 336 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 7: ain't gonna lie. I was disappointed. I thought there was 337 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 7: some better bowls out there. 338 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: There are. 339 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 7: Well, since we wasn't bowling last year, we're here. Louisiana 340 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 7: got ten win teams, so we better get out here 341 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 7: and go do it. Do it because bowl games about 342 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 7: want to like you know, this is last his last 343 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 7: game anyway, like you know, at least you come with 344 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 7: some perspective. 345 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: It may not be what you wanted. 346 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 7: But last year you had nothing, nothing in the year 347 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 7: before that, your last Bowl game. 348 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 349 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 6: Everybody take that sixty five to seven taste out there. 350 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: Man, I'd rather have sixty five to seven and play 351 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: in that in that game? 352 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: Then what's the Bold Prizect for that? 353 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: Though? 354 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: What's the Bold PRIDECCE for the new Mexico boat? 355 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: I didn't you gotta ask who's the sponsor? No, no, no, 356 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 4: you ask who's the sponsor? Who's the sponsor. It's like 357 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 4: it's like PlayStation Bowl. You get to PlayStation and stuff 358 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 4: like that. You do get per. 359 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: Mexico Bowl Act. Shout out to people. 360 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, man, come on, but really it's no matter what 361 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 7: it is. Heck, what you had last year is nothing. 362 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 7: You have five wins. 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Heck, Maherrison's here. 430 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 7: I'm late newie scrush, coming back up from doing a 431 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 7: little bit of work. So the thing that impressed me 432 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 7: about the Cowboys that they won from the standpoint that 433 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 7: Tampa Bay had the ball for thirty two minutes and 434 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 7: forty eight seconds, ran up a whole bunch of yards 435 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 7: on them, and the Cowboys could not run in a 436 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 7: lick average one point six yards of carry in the game, 437 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 7: thirty one yards of rushing. 438 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: I didn't think they will win. I picked against. 439 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 7: Them to see them come out and play because I 440 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 7: was at the stadium and I was not expecting that 441 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 7: once you got they got eliminated. 442 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 6: I wasn't expecting them to go out there. 443 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 7: And play that way. So for them to lead from 444 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 7: start to finish. And who had these dudes winning on 445 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 7: Sunday Night two of the three games they played. 446 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 6: This year, Pittsburgh. Yeah, Tampa lost. 447 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: Sam to see that, I see that. 448 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: Man, no again, like this is I guess that goes 449 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 5: in the file of just the unpredictability of what this 450 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 5: football team has been this year is it's been it's 451 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: been this toss up every single because I think we 452 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: were all on the same page when we came to 453 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 5: this game, was like, this ain't gonn this ain't going 454 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: this ain't going in well, This ain't going in well. 455 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: And and they they have the final say so that 456 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 5: that's the greater thing, right, is that our jobs are 457 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 5: to look at film and numbers and all this other 458 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 5: kind of stuff and break this thing down and come 459 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 5: up with some sort of hypothesis or high pot news. 460 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: So what the game plan would be like. 461 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 5: And when we go out there and then we go 462 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 5: sit some we go sit on the fat part of 463 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: our butt and watch. 464 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: And those guys have to go out there and go. 465 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 5: Well, forget what new we forget what forget what Holly 466 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 5: has to say. 467 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: They don't have to live up to this. They don't 468 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: put the pads on, they ain't they ain't doing this. 469 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: And that's that's the difference. 470 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 5: And that's that's that's the part that those guys get 471 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 5: the final say so in. 472 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 4: So Jesse Newey asked this question. I got to ask you, guys, 473 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: what does this mean for Mike from Pittsburgh. 474 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: Glad you asked this question, what does this. 475 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 6: Mean from Mike from Pittsburgh? 476 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: For me, Yeah, it means absolutely nothing to me. It 477 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: means absolutely nothing because here's what we hired Mike McCarthy 478 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: to do. Mike McCarthy was hired for the head coaching 479 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 5: job slash offensive coordinator job to change the narrative and 480 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 5: the outcome of what the other regime could not do. 481 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 5: And there's four seasons here he's done the exact same 482 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 5: thing that the other regime has done. First round exit 483 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 5: in the playoffs, not make the playoffs. This means nothing 484 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: to me. This proves nothing to me because your goal 485 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: was to get this team to the championship and. 486 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: You failed to do that. Yes, that's what that was 487 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: the goal. 488 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 5: When when he was hired, one of the things that 489 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 5: Jerry Jones said about Mike McCarthy was he has Super 490 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: Bowl experience and playoff pedigree. And I also said the thing, 491 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 5: and I was a fan because I thought it was 492 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 5: going to be different. I thought it was going to 493 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 5: be different. At no point in time against the good 494 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 5: Ones did we have a coaching advantage in the last 495 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 5: four years when he had to when he had to 496 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 5: be at his best against the best folded career. It's 497 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 5: the best you got, Is that? The best that you got? 498 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 5: Is that the best that you got as a playoff win? 499 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 5: That the best that you got? Tom, Tom Ray a 500 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 5: lot of people. Man Again, it wasn't different in the 501 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 5: old regime. O. Jason Garrett got one playoff win. 502 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: Here's what I would give you. 503 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: Excuse me, no, no, I'm waiting to hear what you 504 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: had to say. 505 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Jesse. 506 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 6: What you're saying is idealism. 507 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: Ideally, this is what he was hired for. 508 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 7: That's the idealism of what you wanted and what we 509 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 7: all were expecting. The realism is and you look at 510 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 7: this team. This ye had a GM doing GMing very well. Okay, 511 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 7: what about last year? Last year was twelve and five. 512 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 7: You had, you had the runner up in the MVP voting, 513 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 7: get your quarterback. You had everything right, You had a 514 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 7: healthy roster, you had good football players in that roster. 515 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: You you got your tail handed to you at poom. 516 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 7: Okay, let me finish ones point and guess what the 517 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 7: GM and owner said. 518 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 6: Okay, bring it back. 519 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: He could have made a move, right, but he didn't. 520 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 7: Okay, were there other people potentially out there was there 521 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 7: someone available, who's who, who has won more Super Bowls, 522 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 7: who could have taken the job. He was available, he 523 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 7: decided not to do it. So the owner general manager 524 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 7: is the one who said, nah, I want more of this, 525 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 7: bring it back one more time, and then he didn't 526 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 7: get The owner didn't all in? 527 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: Did you see all in? GM? All in? No, he wasn't. 528 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 7: So while you can put up here and beat up 529 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy for the idealism of what was wanted, the 530 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 7: general manager and owner who could have made a move 531 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 7: last year could have hired Jim Harball, could have hired 532 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 7: Bill Belichick, said nah, we're bringing it back, and then 533 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 7: didn't give him all the tools that he had beforehand. 534 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 6: This is not the same amount of talent. This scheme 535 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 6: with Mike Zimmer is not the same. 536 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 7: Chauncey Goldston was over there this week talking about, Hey, man, 537 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 7: it took it. 538 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: We wanted to believe in the scheme. We tried. 539 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 7: It took us a while to get there. When do 540 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 7: you start to say, man, what are we doing here? 541 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 7: I mean, this is a collective thing. As much as 542 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 7: Jerry and I like Jerry personally, man I'll be as 543 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 7: sad as dude when this man passed away, because he 544 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 7: Didne provided so much good content for me through the years. 545 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 7: This thing has been Mike McCarthy ain't done it, Garrett 546 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 7: didn't do it, do it, Parcels didn't do it. 547 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 2: What's the comedy de nominator here? 548 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 549 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: What ain't changing? Right? 550 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: So? 551 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 7: I mean so, so the reality is you kind of 552 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 7: got what you you You you walked into this bear 553 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 7: trap owner general manager. 554 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: You think about what if Hardball's here? What the ballot chicks? 555 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 7: These were available options, right, and you said no, No, nine, 556 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 7: we're bringing this guy back. You make it so so okay? 557 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 7: Now you say all that To say what I say 558 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 7: all that is, if you fired it in tomorrow, I 559 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 7: don't think there's a better option for you that he 560 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 7: will feel comfortable with. Take Jesse out of it, take 561 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 7: Newie out of it, take heck matter. So we're talking 562 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 7: about the man that we've been around and we've seen 563 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 7: and recovered and we know correct he's probably gonna come 564 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 7: back with this one more time because I don't think 565 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 7: there's a better asption for that he's going to feel 566 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 7: comfortable with to do he ain't hired Kelly Moore. He's 567 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 7: not gonna hire a first time guy. 568 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: So we're just we're in insanity again because we're getting 569 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 5: ready to repeat what we just repeated with JG. We 570 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 5: did ten years with JAG because and the only way 571 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 5: you run this back this is just me and if 572 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 5: whoever Mike McCarthy's agent is there's no way, Tom Brady, Oh, 573 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 5: there's no way. You give me a one year deal, 574 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 5: of course, so you gotta give me four. You gotta 575 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 5: give me three, four year deal. 576 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna be it probably will have to be three. 577 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 5: Right, So okay, So now all right, so you go 578 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 5: through seven years and what's you said? The common denominator 579 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 5: is what? So what's gonna be the difference? What what 580 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: you What you have to have now? What you have 581 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 5: to have now is what you have to have now 582 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 5: is you can't have good coaching anymore. 583 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: You have to have great coaching. 584 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 5: You have to have people who are able to schematically 585 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: overcome the limitations that are set forth by the people 586 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 5: who are over their heads. And I think that's from 587 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 5: me when it comes to Mike McCarthy. 588 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: He's just good. He's just good. 589 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 5: And that's why I'm talking about a competitive advantage when 590 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 5: you go into these certain games, you don't. You didn't 591 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 5: feel when he went up against the Lion that the 592 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 5: he that he had a competitive advantage from the coaching aspect. 593 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 5: You didn't feel that way when he went up against 594 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 5: Kyle shanahan or McVeigh or any la Floor or any 595 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: of the ones that we consider to be good and 596 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 5: that you'll eventually have to face in order to get 597 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 5: to the big game. Right, all the names that I'm naming, 598 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 5: or names that you got to go through unless they 599 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 5: beat each other, that you gotta go through those names 600 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 5: in order to get to the promised Land. And at 601 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 5: no point in time, and maybe I'm wrong, I'll speak 602 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: for myself, I won't speak for you, gentlemen. I never 603 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: feelt there was a competitive advantage at that point. And 604 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 5: if coaching wise, if I don't have a competitive advantage 605 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 5: coaching wise, and I don't have a significantly advantage Jimmy's 606 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 5: and Joe's wise, I find myself in this situation. 607 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: Again and again and again. 608 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 5: And I think what Mike McCarthy is as a play 609 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 5: caller is good. And if you're not going to give 610 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 5: him exceptional talent, all across the board that will elevate 611 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: that good to a higher place. 612 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: Then we'll be sitting here and and in eight months 613 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 2: and we'll be having the same conversation. That's why I'm 614 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: saying that. 615 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 6: You've been having since ninety seven. 616 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: That's why you that's why. 617 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 5: For me, it's it's there has to be hope, If 618 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 5: there's any hope, there has to be the hope that 619 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 5: Okay be fired by McCarthy. And then finally, finally, the 620 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: clock is right one of these times, and the dog 621 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: and the sun signs on the dog's bottom. 622 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: And you go, this is your time, you Ben Johnson, I. 623 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Didn't did all the other stuff. I'm gonna go ahead. 624 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ahead and give you that twelve twelve 625 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 5: million dollars you know. 626 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 7: Liam Cohen, Liam Cohen, you know what I'm gonna give 627 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 7: you that shot. 628 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: Bobby Slowick, I'm a so so tesse jesse. Look, so 629 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: that split the difference, all right, because I think what 630 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: you're what you're saying from a talent standpoint, I didn't 631 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: give this guy a chance. All in didn't apply this year. 632 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: You may have been in previously years, but not this year. 633 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: And give you enough all right, and it's for some reason. 634 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: When talking to players, former professional players about Mike McCarthy, 635 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: it comes down to guys saying him not living up 636 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: to the moment. That's Barry Church's deal with Mike McCarthy, right, 637 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: What you're saying for who? For what? Basically, who are 638 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: you going to bring in to manage? Who are you 639 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 4: going to not only just manage this roster. Who's going 640 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 4: to deal with the front office? Who do you know 641 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 4: who's been better at dealing with that, because that's a 642 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: part of the job too. Then may not be dealing 643 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 4: with Dak, dealing with Michael Oh, by the way, managing 644 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: your expectation with Jerry Jones. Who else is I mean? 645 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 4: And I said this before, for Mike McCarthy, who was 646 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: I felt like being groomed for this position, for what 647 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: he dealt with with Ted Johnson Thompson, I mean up 648 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: in up in Green Bay. He didn't pick his his 649 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 4: free agency. He wasn't in that room for any of that. 650 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: My point with Mike McCarthy is what he's had to 651 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: deal with from an injury standpoint, The guy didn't have 652 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 4: a leg to stand on. At a certain point in 653 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: this season. The whole team was hurt. And if you 654 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: expect the expectation after Dak Prescott went down. 655 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: But what about when Dak wasn't here. They didn't play 656 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 5: well at the beginning of the year and they had him. 657 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: But you're a good season. 658 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: You're not going to go back to last season when 659 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: Dak is the runner up in the MVP vote. None, 660 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: you got your doors beat off when it mattered. You 661 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: don't put that on your defensive cordat That team was unprepared. 662 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 5: That team was when you're talking about unprepared, you know, 663 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: and not ready to play game offensively, to stop offensively, 664 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 5: to offensively to. 665 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 7: That falls on the shoulders And where was the general 666 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 7: manager to make the decisions? 667 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: Probably what. 668 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not okay, okay, he's on his jet. 669 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 7: It was helicopter when you took the beating and you 670 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 7: were frustrated and mad and other people around were calling 671 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 7: for regime change. You could have did hardball begging to 672 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 7: come to the league, Bill Belichick, begging for a job. 673 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: He didn't do it. He didn't want to. 674 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: He didn't want to have to pay that five million 675 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 5: and for Mike to sit at the buffet. No guess 676 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: what he didn't want. 677 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: He didn't want Mike. He didn't want Mike. 678 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: Now the China eating the unlimited crab legs at two 679 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 5: o'clock on a Thursday afternoon. 680 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: Because if that was the case, you're talking about a billionaire. 681 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: It comes and a year million dollars or you don't 682 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: know how billionaire is a millionaire? 683 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no no. I don't 684 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 4: want to give up, but no, man, I don't have to. 685 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 4: If you knew that this season was going to be 686 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 4: the way that it is, you you think that he 687 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: would have still lined him up for this just to say, oh, 688 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: I'm just going to pay you through the end of 689 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 4: good contract and bring another guy in again. 690 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 5: Now now you're asking for miss cleo fortune teller. Right 691 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 5: if he knew, okay, no, he didn't know. 692 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: In his mind. 693 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 5: In his mind he thought to himself, you know what 694 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 5: if I pay CD and I paid DAK and I 695 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 5: switched some other things around. Hell, we were twelve and 696 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 5: five last year with this, but a very similar group. 697 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 5: Maybe this year we can get lucky and things happening. 698 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 4: Agree with because the mismanagement thing is on him. 699 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, no, I one hundred percent agree with 700 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 5: Newie in the sense of the general managers. The general 701 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 5: manager that's always gonna be with the way it is. 702 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 5: What I'm saying is even in your twelve and five years, 703 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 5: it still ended the same way. So there was nothing. 704 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 5: So there was nothing that was going to change for 705 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 5: me in this season. 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Don't miss the chance to 761 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 4: learn from the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders at dance camp on 762 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 4: December twenty seventh and former NFL players at football camps 763 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: on December twenty seventh. Celebrate the Holidays with the Dallas Cowboys. 764 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 4: Register today at Dallascowboys dot com. 765 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 7: Slash all Right, Hackemharrison appreciate Jesse Holly, former Dallas Cowboy 766 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 7: player in the. 767 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: House when they were shrugs. 768 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 7: The Cowboys get a twenty six twenty four win on 769 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 7: NBC Sunday Night Football. They did not get flexed, and 770 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 7: they went out and gave NBC a good game. And 771 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 7: for some reason, Cooper Rush just keeps winning on Sunday 772 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 7: Night Football in front of a national TV audience. One 773 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 7: on Halloween Night one here, I mean one on Thanksgiving Day. 774 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 7: I mean dudes, got a whole bunch of starts in 775 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 7: prime time in his career. 776 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 4: Boy nine lives this man Cooper Rush twenty six or 777 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 4: thirty five, twenty six or thirty five. It was not perfect. 778 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 4: It was not perfect. There were a couple throws, Seed 779 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 4: Lamb went over to the bench like, what was that? 780 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 4: But the winning prime time is a winning prime Time. 781 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 7: I must give him credit for gutting it out. Okay, 782 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 7: so before the break, we're back on. Jesse's not a 783 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 7: believer in bringing Mike McCarthy back. 784 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 4: The opposite of Barry Church, by the way, when it 785 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 4: comes down to loyalty and saying, you know, aligning himself, 786 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 4: Barry is loyal to the soil. 787 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 5: That necessarily is not approached the things either. My good 788 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 5: brother Barry, I know you like Kellen Moore. 789 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 4: I hope you love hibout love. 790 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 7: And I keep going back into this premise of yeah, 791 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 7: I have my thoughts, but I have to go back 792 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 7: and think when I talk about this, the thoughts of 793 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 7: the owner in general manager who did not box himself 794 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 7: in last night after the game, appreciated what Mike McCarthy 795 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 7: did and spoke before about how, hey man, we thought 796 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 7: we basically somebody died when we found out that Washington 797 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 7: won the game and they went out there and they 798 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 7: performed highly. I just don't see his appetite to go. 799 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 7: I didn't get anyone else, and once again, who do 800 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 7: you go get? Jesse you want to bring up some 801 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 7: offensive names and some first time guys who have been 802 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 7: head coaches. 803 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 6: I don't see that you've played here. 804 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 7: You understand that this is not just a football job. 805 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 6: This is an entertainment plax that you deal with. 806 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 7: I look at this job the way managing the New 807 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 7: York Yankees used to be out of George time. 808 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 6: Man, it's what we just see. 809 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 2: Yes, what did we just see in the Netflix preview? 810 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: This is bigger than football. He said it. 811 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 5: He said, this is a soap op for three hundred 812 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 5: and sixty five days a year. 813 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: You're not coming here, and coach you coming here. 814 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 7: I remember Christmas Sharp when he got here, he uh 815 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 7: went went to lunch with him and uh and Dinnistman. 816 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 7: He was like, Yeah, it's a little different than Seattle. 817 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 7: You know, it's a lot lots of stuff's going on. 818 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 7: So you may have a practice one day and all 819 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 7: of a sudden, practice could get changed on you because 820 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 7: you know, I just got stuff to do. 821 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 2: The stuff you were. 822 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 7: You here with us that day when they had the 823 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 7: trailers out there for the Country Music Awards, and so 824 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 7: they took up one side of the field and they 825 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 7: had like, ohca is on the other side of that rained, 826 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 7: and then they couldn't go into the forts and it 827 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 7: because they had. 828 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 6: To set up. It's different around here. It's the gift 829 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 6: in the. 830 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 4: Curse are Jerry landing during practice, It's the happens because 831 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 4: he didn't. 832 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: Know what time practice was starting. 833 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 7: He didn't know time practice was so this is so 834 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 7: it's is like you're you know, this is a different 835 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 7: kind of jam man. 836 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 2: So not everybody's cut out to do this. 837 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 7: And oh, by the way, guess what, you will have 838 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 7: a collaborative effort. You're not getting to make your own decision. 839 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 7: They're gonna they're gonna work with you. 840 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 5: The one thing I get to do if I'm an 841 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 5: offensive play caller, it's called my own place. Design my 842 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 5: own place. That's That's the part that I'm getting to. 843 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 5: There's no one. No one realizes just how how big 844 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 5: the tornado is until you're in the eye of it. 845 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,959 Speaker 5: Right once you're in the. 846 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 6: Eye, I can't a certain thing. I can't. 847 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: And I know that there's some other things when it 848 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 5: comes to that too, you know, I know you know exact. 849 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is I still would like to 850 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 5: have somebody that is exceptional when it comes down to 851 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 5: designing and profiling the plays that I am able to 852 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 5: call on Sundays when you talk about like we're in 853 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 5: week fifteen and I was seeing things last night, I'm like, oh, wow, 854 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 5: look at him using these plays and actually using them 855 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 5: to set up another play, right like the Cavante Turpin 856 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 5: his first run he runs, that play comes right back 857 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 5: to it again, the same thing, play action it catch 858 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 5: bright coaching. 859 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 2: I said, Oh, that's how you set up a play. 860 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 5: That's that's the process of walking this thing down and 861 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 5: setting things up, and far too often we are left, 862 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 5: we are left our desires unfulfilled when the things that 863 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 5: are happening offensively and my biggest the thing that I 864 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 5: stand ten toes down on is that I brought you 865 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 5: here to be a difference maker, and the difference has 866 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 5: it been made not well enough to that it's going 867 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 5: to get us to a place of ultimate success. And 868 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 5: that's where I'm like, we gotta do something else, because 869 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 5: bringing him back doesn't change the fact that you're. 870 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: Still going to be who you are in the ninth inning. 871 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 2: Players don't. 872 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 5: You ain't changing the play a game of the ninth 873 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 5: in it, And so you give them three more years 874 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 5: or four more years or whatever the deal would be. 875 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: What changes. 876 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 6: That's a fair point, But I go back. 877 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 7: I don't think the owner has the appetite to go 878 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 7: out and make. 879 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 4: A change because they're not going to go to college. 880 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 4: They're not going to bring a guy from college into 881 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 4: this job. That I mean, if you think about it, 882 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 4: that's exactly what you're talking. This isn't an entertainment business. 883 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 4: That guy wouldn't even be able to understand or even 884 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 4: be able to withstand this the media storm. 885 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 6: Come on, we've heard that name, but we. 886 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 7: Have we've heard that that name, and you look at 887 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 7: how sensitive this man is. Okay, you out in now 888 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 7: La where they don't even really care the medium really 889 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 7: showing up every day out there. 890 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 4: You are. 891 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 5: I'd rather have Cliff Kingsbury than Lincoln Raley. What if 892 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 5: those are the options? Those are my two options that 893 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 5: you were giving me, and I don't want either one 894 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 5: of them. But if those were the two options, if 895 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 5: that was an option, thatdn't get me. 896 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 4: Who is a play caller in the NFL right now 897 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 4: that you look at their game and you said that, 898 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 4: I love that? Who's that guy offensive? Like an offensive 899 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 4: play called OC Ben, Ben Johnson. 900 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Matt Lafleur. There's another one, McVeigh. McVeigh. You 901 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 2: know it's McVeigh. Oh my god. 902 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 5: McVeigh would be like, he's he gives you, he gives 903 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 5: you an advantage. You hear a lot from the forty 904 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 5: nine ers fans. They're talking about they ready to get 905 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 5: rid of Kyle Shanahan. I'm like, God, please, what are 906 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 5: y'all waiting on? Because if you do, if you do, 907 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 5: I'll drive, So I'll drive, the saying friend to. 908 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: Pick him up for y'all. Let me ask you this. 909 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: Let me just's this here. 910 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 7: If because Mike's a free agent, he can decided he 911 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 7: wants to go coach the Saints, would you be willing 912 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 7: to give up a draft pick for and I'm not 913 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 7: naming any names, not naming any coaches, but would you 914 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 7: be willing to trade for a coach? 915 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: Yes? 916 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 4: Okay, what coaches out there? 917 00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 7: We will do that. 918 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: We can't do that, okay, all right, but I'm just saying, 919 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: just would you yes? Okay, okay, Yes. 920 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 4: There is a coach out here, fictitional coach out here 921 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 4: that you believe if you bring him in here, he's 922 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 4: going to be that kind of change agent that you 923 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 4: you would trade first round picks for. Yeah, okay, yeah, yes. 924 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 7: Because the itches we need all around. 925 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I believe if you. 926 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 7: Look at the guy next year, he's really he's ready 927 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 7: to give you that axe. 928 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: Step too slow, yeah, step slow. 929 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 4: There, thank you. Don't stop wearing hell right now, wearing hell. Yes, 930 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 4: we got it right before Christmas. Oh year, I had 931 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 4: got it. 932 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 6: We gotta go, We gotta go, guys, we gotta go, 933 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 6: we gotta go. And it's coach Tony said, what are 934 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 6: you gonna do? I can't do it for you. 935 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 2: What do you get it? 936 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 4: Goodbye. 937 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 938 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.