1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: player for you. State Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy. Welcome to a breaking 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: news edition of One Bills Live here on this Thursday. 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Do the quarterback movement in the league continues and we 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: are just getting started. Carson Wentz headed to the Colts, 8 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: and in the last two days I think this appeared 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: to be on somewhat of a collision course because we 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: heard that the Chicago Bears had all but pulled out 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: of the Carson Wentz Sweepstakes, leaving it down to just 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: one team, and so the Colts, with no competition, left 13 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: their deal on the table as is, no need to 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: tweak it, no need to enhance it, and here we are. 15 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: It goes for a third round pick this year and 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: a conditional second round pick next year for Carson Wentz. 17 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: That is all the Colts have to part with. Now. 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: That conditional second round pick can become a first round 19 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: pick if one of two things happens with Carson Wentz 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: as a member on the Colts roster this coming season. 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: If he plays in seventy five percent of the snaps, 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: the two turns into a one, or if he plays 23 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: in seventy percent of the snaps and the Colts make 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 1: the playoffs, that conditional second round pick in twenty twenty 25 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: two becomes a first round pick for the Eagles. So 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback who kind of lost his way in a 27 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: down year for that entire Eagles team is now probably 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: headed to the best situation he could have foreseen for himself, 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Steve going to the Colts and a guy under whom 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: he had some of his greatest success with the Eagles 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: in Frank Reich. I think there's no question what we 32 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: found out and leading the run up to this where 33 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Chicago was interested in him, and it's an obvious landing 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: spot for some quarterback out there. Carson Wentz when he 35 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: found out and probably through probably a phone call or 36 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: text found out that Frank Reich and the Colts were interested, 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: He's like, I ain't going to Chicago. You can't forget 38 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: it right, Well, that took the Chicago Bears off the map, 39 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: because the last thing you want to do if you're 40 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: the Bears just get a quarterback in there didn't want 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: to play for you. I mean that would be why 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: are you gonna part with capital to right get a 43 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: guy who doesn't want to be there? Right? That would 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: be a dumpster fire on top of the dumpster fire. 45 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: They are at that spot. So they just the Bears 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: just said forget it, then we don't. If he didn't 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: want to play for us, we're done. That's it. That 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: the market dried up and Philadelphia saw it, so they say, 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: all right, we'll take it and a second round pick 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: this year. That's pretty good. And then the second or 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: the third rounder or the second rounder next year. Wait, 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: I got that backwards. A third rounder this year and 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: a second rounder next year for sure. And if Carson 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Wentz plays like a starting quarterback, and that doesn't mean 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: plays well, that just mean plays a lot. Like if 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: he plays seventy five percent of the snaps or seventy 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: percent of the snaps and the Colts go to the playoffs, 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: that second round pick becomes a number one. That's that's 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: a fair enough deal considering when a lot of zero leverage, 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fixing you gotta do with Wentz. 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I think that's I don't know, you don't think. So 62 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: you got to build a team around him. No question, 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: and there's there's some things you gotta ask yourself. But 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I think the guy in Indy, because I had a 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: conversation with him about the guy way back that was bad. 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: This was back when he was hitting it right in 67 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: the in their Super Bowl year, and Frank was really 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: high on the kid, really high on him, and for 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: obvious reasons. And I don't think that the things I 70 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, the Frank said about him, I don't think 71 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: that goes away with a tough year or an injury. 72 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: You know, mental toughness great, you know leader, you know 73 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. I think there's relationship problems in 74 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: that organization. Well, there was no There's no doubt. There 75 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: was a confluence of events that all kind of came together, 76 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: and it all fell on the shoulders of Wentz fairly 77 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: or unfairly, probably unfairly to a great degree. The offensive 78 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: line turned into a mess quickly. They sustained a number 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: of injuries on the offensive line, so protection was compromised 80 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: from the word go. They were shuffling people in and out, 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: didn't have a healthy starting five at any point during 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the season. Their receivers untold number of injuries there in 83 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: and out of the lineup and no consistent see at 84 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: the receiver position, Miles Sanders the running back in and 85 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: out of the lineup, injuries, So people can say whatever 86 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: they want, and this is going to be a bone 87 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: of contention, I can tell you, Steve and I don't 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: want to get off on too much of a tangent 89 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: here and talking about Wentz but not having any kind 90 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: of semblance of an off season to train be ready 91 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: for the regular season, a slow run up to contact, 92 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: you know, padless training camp. Some teams dealt with that 93 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: better than others, and the ones that didn't found a 94 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: lot of their players on the sidelines injured at the 95 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 1: start of the regular season and through the first half 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: of the regular season, and they never recovered. The Eagles 97 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: were one of those teams. A myriad of injuries at 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: a number of positions, most of them on the offensive 99 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: side of the ball, and they couldn't do anything on 100 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: offense and suffered as a result. And Carson Wentz was 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: the biggest sufferer of the group because he was in 102 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: the lineup and the lack of protection I think compromises 103 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: internal clock in terms of went to deliver the football. 104 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: I think because of all the stuff that was crumbling 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: around him. He put even more on his shoulders, and 106 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: I think very often tried to do too much, which 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: led to a bunch of mistakes, costly ones that cost 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: them games. And then I think that led to him 109 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: losing an awful lot of confidence not only in himself 110 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: but in the players around him and the coaching staff 111 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: that was supposed to prepare him every week for games, 112 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: and that led to the deterioration staff. Doug Peterson's out 113 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: the door now. Carson Wentz is out the door. Yeah, 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: they which one of them was the baby in which 115 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: one was the bathwater? Well, I don't even know that 116 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: it matters, right because they're both gone now. But I 117 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: think Doug Peterson is certainly a man who knows football, 118 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: knows x's and knows how to put together a KEYINGE plan, 119 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: knows how to prepare for an opponent. I think where 120 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: he lacks is in the area of when the stuff 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: hits the fan, how do you handle that with the media, 122 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: how do you handle that with your team? And I 123 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: think crisis management was a blind spot for him in 124 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: a big way, and it ultimately cost him his job 125 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: for his inability in knowing how to handle those things, 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: saying the right things publicly to the media, because he 127 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: botched some stuff in the second half of the season, 128 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: and then handling it with his players internally. It's clear 129 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: based on the deterioration of the most important relationship on 130 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: the team, him and the quarterback, that it fell apart. 131 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Yea quickly. You got to have a sense. And I 132 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: don't know whether it's communication or whatever, but that relationship 133 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: certainly went south. And and like you said, it's probably 134 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: because because of the way Peterson handled the media. I 135 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: don't I don't know how it gets to that point 136 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: for a guy who's had so much success and been 137 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: around so long in the National Football League and played 138 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: the position not to under stand what his quarterback is 139 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: going to be thinking in that situation, what he says 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: to the meeting. I mean, he coached under Andy Reid, 141 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: who has dealt with a bunch of different crises, both 142 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: personal and with his football teams. Well, thinking about the 143 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: football stuff that the Donovan McNabb Terrell Owens fiasco, Yeah, 144 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: all of that stuff, even as a player, even the 145 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: minor stuff the witness coming through the ranks. As a player, 146 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Peterson has been around, He's been in the coaching How 147 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: could you let your relationship with that quarterback go that way? Yeah, 148 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: And you can say what you want, whether Carson Wentz 149 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: turtled and you know, couldn't, didn't stand up up under 150 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: the pressure, or couldn't. You got to know that that's 151 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: your guy. And if you don't think he if you 152 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: know he's not gonna be able to stand up to 153 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: that pressure, which you should, you can't put him under 154 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: that pressure. That what are you doing? Are you trying 155 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: to make him the scapegoat? That's clearly how Carson Wentz felt, right, 156 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: which is why the relationship went the way it did. 157 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm talking about. That's the crisis management 158 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: that Peterson botched horribly. And hopefully, you know, if he 159 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: wants to get back into coaching at some point in time, 160 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: all indications are he's taking the year off and I 161 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: don't know that he got too many offers. He's got 162 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: to really learn from this and kind of replay it 163 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: in his head and map it out and say even 164 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: write it down if he needs to. Because if you 165 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: ever want to coach again at any level, position, play 166 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: call or whatever your most important player, Yeah, and figure 167 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: out a way to keep that relationship strong even if 168 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: everything else is crumbling around you, because if you don't 169 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: have that, you don't have a prayer. And not only 170 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: does he not have a prayer, he doesn't have a job. 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's unfortunate. It's a hard lesson to learn. 172 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: But NFL head coaches have to do more than xes 173 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: and oh's. They have to build relationships and then they 174 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: have to nurture and keep those relationships strong, especially with 175 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: their quarterback. So when stuff does hit the fan, as 176 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: we know, every every NFL season, for every team in 177 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: this league, there is going to inevitably be some form 178 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: of adversity, whether it's a rash of injuries, whether it's 179 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: not performing ups to expectations and just playing a stinker 180 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: of a game, maybe two, maybe three. I mean, think 181 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: about the twenty seventeen season for the Bills, that three 182 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: game losing streak where they got their heads handed to them. 183 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: That's crisis and you've got to know how to navigate that, 184 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: handle that and come out on the other side without 185 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: being a change team for the worse. And Sean McDermott 186 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: first year as a head coach was able to navigate 187 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: that stuff and pull his team out of it and 188 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. It's leadership, yeah, and you can say 189 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: call it whatever you want, but leadership is about, particularly 190 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: the NFL levels. As a player, you gotta know your 191 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: head coach is neck deep in this with you, and 192 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: that's what you feel like. The players in the NFL 193 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: play these games and I know it's overstated, and I 194 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: know it's hyperbole. It's it's an exaggeration of reality, but 195 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: the player's mentality is life and death. Every game means 196 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: everything because you're putting yourself in physical risk and you're 197 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: gonna be in a fight, a physical confrontation. You're gonna 198 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: be pushing and pulling and shoving and fight and literally 199 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: physically fighting against somebody else who's trying to beat you up. 200 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: It's an emotional game that you have to be prepared 201 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: for mentally. And if you're as a player don't believe 202 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: your coaches care at all, whether you know what you're 203 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: going through or don't understand what you're going through, they're done. 204 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Leadership on a football team had Your players have to 205 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: know you care and that you understand what they're going through. 206 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: That's why these coaches that come out and they're going 207 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: live on a Friday telling you you can, hey, rest 208 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: on Saturday, You'll be ready to play Sunday. You know 209 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: they you want to chop their head off. I mean 210 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: it's like, are you kidding me? You can't do that. 211 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: It takes a couple of days. It takes a process 212 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: to get ready to mentally walk out there and walk 213 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: into a fight. And you're as a player, you've got 214 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: to know your coach understands that. And if your coach 215 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: gives you the inkling and he doesn't get where you're 216 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: coming from, or doesn't care where you're coming from, or 217 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: has or belittle as your investment, that relationship is fractured 218 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: and you're so as a head coach, your job one 219 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: is to let the players know you get it, You 220 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: understand how hard it is, and you're gonna help them 221 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: not only be prepared to play and put in the 222 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: preparation work, but be fresh and ready to go when 223 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: you get there, and give you all the tools and 224 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be fresh and ready mentally and one 225 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: hundred percent physically physically ready to go into it. Some 226 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: coaches don't get that. Most of them do these days, 227 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: but even in today's NFL that's not as brutal. And 228 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: as you know, all of the you know, the player 229 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: protection and stuff that does exists now, it's still it's 230 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: still an emotionally taxing pre preparation process to get ready 231 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: to go in there. And the minute you think your 232 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: coach doesn't get you, or understand that or or doesn't 233 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: value your contribution, that relationship is beyond repair until until 234 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: some work is done on it. And that's where I 235 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: think that went went in Philly. I was like, what 236 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: do you think I'm doing it? I'm getting sacked more 237 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: than anybody else in the world. My offensive line's a mess, 238 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: and you're telling people I ain't playing well. I don't 239 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: care if they do throw you, I don't They can 240 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: throw you off this boat right now, I don't care. 241 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's where you're at as a player. And 242 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: as much success as those two had that they were 243 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, he was going on envy. That's it, man, 244 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: what are you doing? It goes fast. So now Wentz 245 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: is a member of the Indianapolis Colts, where he joins 246 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: a team that has a very good offensive line, although 247 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: they have Anthony Costanzo to replace after he retired, so 248 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: they have an offensive tackle spot to phil on their 249 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: starting line and guard to guard though they may be 250 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: one of the best groups in the league. So good 251 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: offensive line, good running backs. You know some ty t 252 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: Y Hilton is a free agent. But they have receiver 253 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: talent there, young receiver talent with Pittman and with Pascal, 254 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: and they have tight end talent there as well. So 255 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: a good number of skill position players for to work with. 256 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: And their defense is pretty good as well. I mean 257 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: that team you could argue is going to challenge. I 258 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: mean they challenged Tennessee with Philip Rivers at quarterback for 259 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: the division title this past year, missed out on it 260 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: by a whisker, had to come here to play the 261 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: wild card playoff game against the Bills. Now Carson Wentz, 262 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: if he is a successful reclamation project of Frank Reich, 263 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: they could really be going places in that division. Knowing 264 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: the tech I mean, the Texans, we don't know, but 265 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: we're assuming that Watson won't be there. They're gonna be rebuilding. 266 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,239 Speaker 1: The Jaguars will have Trevor Lawrence. They're not ready to compete, presumably, 267 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: So it's a two horse race there in the AFC South. 268 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: With Wentz now coming to the Colts. It's basically the 269 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Titans and the Colts for that AFC South title. I 270 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: would think going forward, that's exactly right. And and the Colts, 271 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: we saw him give the Bills all they could handle 272 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: here in Orchard Park. They were really they played extremely 273 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: well in that game. And the Bills, you know, really 274 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: they had one long play to Digs down the sideline 275 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: that put him in in front at halftime. Even so, 276 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: that was a game that was that was a tough, 277 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: fought game. And you put you plug in Carson Wins 278 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: and his abilities which are very different Philip Rivers haven't 279 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: added dimension of running ability and extension. You know. Yeah, 280 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: WinCE is a modern quarterback. He's gonna buy some time. 281 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: He's got an athletic enough. That's a great move for them. 282 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this the left tackle thing. You 283 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: can look at the guy that just left the Baltimore 284 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Ravens Brown they could end up getting him at their 285 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: left tackle spot. They could plug him in trade for 286 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: another guy. They could. Man, they got tons of cash, right, 287 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: they have the money to spend another young quarterback now 288 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: in the AFC, which is already flush with young quarterback talent. 289 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Here's another one. Now, Watson could be leaving and going 290 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: to the NFC, but he may stay in the AFC. 291 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Who knows where he could potentially end up. They continue 292 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: to say he's not going anywhere, and if they're gonna 293 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: move him, the better chop chop. Well, I don't think 294 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: I think they're trying to stand fast right now and 295 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: say we don't want to move him and hope Watson 296 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: changes his mind. But this is essentially a staring contest. 297 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: It has the potential to get very distasteful just just 298 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: to even talk about it. Here's the thing. If Deshaun 299 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Watson wants it, he'll sit down and not play, and 300 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: they'll start finding him um for conduct detrimental and they'll 301 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: start taking money or you know whatever, all that stuff aside. 302 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: What it could get ugly, how it could get ugly 303 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: is Deshaun Watson could show up and not play, just 304 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: show up and just stand there. I'm doing the work. 305 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: You say, I'm doing whatever you want. I'm showing up 306 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: for work, but I'm not playing. I'm gonna stand around. 307 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take my place on your roster 308 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: and I Am not gonna take the field. Then then 309 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: the Texas got a real problem. They got a guy 310 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: in their locker room with his teammates who refuses to 311 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: take part. So they're gonna have to not only pay 312 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: the guy thirty five million or whatever his contract says, 313 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: thirty million, but whatever his contract says, and they're gonna 314 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: have to pay him just for standing there being a problem. 315 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: That's how ugly this could get. And if I'm Deshaun Watson, 316 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: I'll just I'll do it, take the paycheck and just 317 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: make him regret the day that they lie to you. 318 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: That's it could get really, really ugly for everybody in 319 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: that organization. And that's exactly that's where it's headed at 320 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: one hundred. I think Watson is determined to make that 321 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: happen now. I think he feels so double crossed by 322 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: everything that's transpired there, and I think he feels like 323 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: he's been lied to more than once. And so the reputation, 324 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: even with new people in the building and positions of 325 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: power like Nick Kisserio and David Culley, I just think 326 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: it's irreparable. Because cal McNair, the owner, I think is 327 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: the main bone of tension for Watson. A close second 328 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: is Jack Easterby and so I think with those two 329 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: people at the top of the food chain in the 330 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: Texans organization, in Watson's eyes, nothing has changed because those 331 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: are the two people that call all the shots. And 332 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: because of that, it's done. It's done. And if the 333 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: if the Texans organization can't recognize that, well then that's 334 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: on them. They should move him now because the game 335 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: of musical chairs at the quarterback position, the music's winding 336 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: down already. You already have three teams that have solved 337 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: their three teams that have solved their problems, and other 338 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: teams that are not in position to inherit that contract 339 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: because of the restrictive cap situation. I mean, you can 340 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: move stuff around and do what you want to do. 341 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: But and you would move mountains for Deshaun Watson. He 342 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: is that kind of a talent, best guy. If he 343 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: was available, he's the best guy. But man, I think 344 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: Denver San Francisco are two teams that if I'm Houston, 345 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm calling them right or Chicago right. I wonder if 346 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: Watson wants to go there. He has a no trade 347 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: clause in his contract. We can say, fine, we try 348 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: to trade you, forget it, show up for work. He 349 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: doesn't Deshaun Watson will take it. The no trade thing 350 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: was well, I don't know if that. I don't know 351 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: if that's one hundred percent true, only because I saw 352 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: the story about this. It said the report indicated that 353 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: the reason that Deshaun Watson is not interested in going 354 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: to the Jets is because he knows with all of 355 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: the capitol, be a draft or players that the Jets 356 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: would have to part with just to acquire Deshaun Watson. 357 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: His concern is he's going to be there and there's 358 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: going to be no way for the Jets to a 359 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: mble talent around him because of all they have to 360 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: give up just to get him. And I think that's 361 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: a reasonable service to consider. But here's the problem, Like, well, 362 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: you want out, how many ways do you want to 363 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: slice that? You can't have your cake and eat it. 364 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: What team's not going to do that? What team's not 365 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: going to be in that situation? I think the San 366 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers or a team that's in a 367 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: position where they are so flushed with talent and are 368 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: in a cap situation with their current quarterback that they 369 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: can move him without killing themselves. Where you say I 370 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: could go to the forty nine ers and they could 371 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: still be a good team, right, I get that. That's 372 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, if you're a quarterback like Deshaun Watson, 373 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna go out and you go say the right things. 374 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: That's the perfect spot when you're in this situation. You 375 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: don't get to call it. Yeah, And just like Miami, 376 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Miami be a great spot for him, just like some 377 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: of these you name it. Chicago is not a bad 378 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: football team, but they've got they've got a quarterback issue. Yeah, 379 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: so he can say all that wants and yes, it 380 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: would be he could say, yeah, I'd rather go to 381 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: San Francisco than the Jets, And I get it. The 382 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: NFC North is a division you could take over pretty quickly. 383 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers is probably there for one more year, 384 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: maybe two, you know, and they just Detroit's a mess. 385 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Detroit's a mess. Dinnesota and Cousins still can't win. Detroit 386 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: got worse. Minnesota with your Gusins can't win consistently. I'm 387 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: with you, he could. He could take over that division 388 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: in a year. Absolutely. That's see to me, that's you 389 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: go to the NFC West with Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray 390 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: and now Matt Stafford. Yeah, and you go to the Bears. 391 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Does Allen Waman Robinson now want to resign if Deshaun 392 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Watson's there? Hell yeah he does. Yeah, Yeah. I Chicago 393 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: is a better landing spot to me because, like you said, 394 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: you got three other teams in the division, two of which, 395 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: well the one you're going to and another are perennially buffoons. Right, 396 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd do that. I think that's the division 397 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: you want to hit, right. We would be remiss if 398 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: we did not list our upcoming schedule here. In about 399 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: ten minutes, we will have the latest installment of Tasker's teammate. 400 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: We'll see if Steve can guess which former teammate we 401 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: have on the line. In about ten minutes time, we 402 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: also will have from NFL Network reporter add King Kabwalla. 403 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: She will be joining us to discuss the situation going 404 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: on in Pittsburgh, which deals not only with a slew 405 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: of high household name type free agents Juju Smith, Schuster, 406 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: James Conner, their left tackle Alejandro Villanueva, which is just 407 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: a fun name to say. They have a big decision 408 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: to make at quarterback. Do they want to go one 409 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: more year with Big Ben and adjust his cap figure 410 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: where it's palatable for the team, or do they just 411 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: want to tear it all down and start over with 412 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: a prohibitive cap situation. A lot of veterans likely to 413 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: be out the door and not resigned because of that situation. 414 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Is it time for the Steelers to turn the page. 415 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to add about that, among other things. And 416 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: we also have our position by position breakdown of the team. 417 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: Latest position today that we'll be discussed is the linebacker 418 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: position for the Bills, and our Twitter poll today is 419 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: what will be a tougher decision for the Bills this offseason. 420 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: The choices are a resigning Matt Milano, b replacing Matt Milano, 421 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: or see a contract extension for Tremaine Edmonds. So those 422 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: are your choices there on the tweet sheet at one 423 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: Bills Live. So please chime in there, or you can 424 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: give us a phone call at eight oh three five 425 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: fifty if you have a take on that, We welcome 426 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: it there, and it is going to be it's a 427 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: multi layered decision at linebacker, and it really really surrounds 428 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: these two players who have been teammates for each of 429 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: the last three seasons have grown accustomed to playing with 430 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: one another, and there's a very good chance, unfortunately, that 431 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: that duo is not going to be together on this roster. 432 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Brandon Bean gave strong indication that 433 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Matt Milano has earned the right to see what he's 434 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: worth on the free agent market, and all indications or 435 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: Milana was going to do that. It makes perfect financial 436 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: sense for him to do that. You know, you made 437 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: modest money during your rookie contract. You over outperformed yourself 438 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: as a fifth round draft choice. I've been borderline Pro 439 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: Bowl player. And now he's going to go on the 440 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: free agent market and presumably cash in with his second contract, 441 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: and deservedly so in this restrictive cap situation type market, 442 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: though it doesn't look very good for the Bills to 443 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: be able to compete for the kind of money he's 444 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: probably going to command. And here's the tough thing is, 445 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: the Bills have this philosophy and they tell their players 446 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: and they and they want to tell their players things 447 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: that they can trust, things they're honest with. They're honest 448 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: with him, and the players respond to that, and word 449 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: gets around. This organization wants to stay far away from 450 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: situations like the Houston Texans are going in. If they 451 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: tell the players something, they want to make sure that 452 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: they do their best. So if a player comes in, 453 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: particularly a mid to late round draft pick, and outperforms 454 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: his contract, the Bills have told these guys and certain 455 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: in situations, they're saying, listen, you've earned the right go 456 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: find out what you're worth good, and we hope you 457 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: get it. If it you know, let us know. We'd 458 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: love to match it or have an opportunity to do it. 459 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: But here's here's the value we think we can pay you. 460 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: You may be more worth more than that. You're perfectly 461 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: willing to go out and find out if you want. 462 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: They told that to Quentin Spain last year, and Quentin 463 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: Spain said, you know what, I like it here, this 464 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: is my spot. I'm gonna stay. It. Ultimately didn't work out, 465 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: but at least the club was honest with the guy. 466 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: And when you do that, when Matt Milano does get 467 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: hit a home run of a deal and and he 468 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: turns around and that guy's asking what it's like to 469 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: play in Buffalo, he's gonna have pretty nice things to 470 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: say about the culture, the coaching staff, and the way 471 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: he was treated here. So that's and that's something that 472 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: the club has been steadfast in doing. They just gotta 473 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: be honest with their players. We've seen, We've talked two 474 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: different organizations now who have sabotaged relationships with some of 475 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: their best players, the Houston Texans and the Philadelphia Eagles. 476 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: Both those clubs have problems at their quarterback position because 477 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: of the relationships, not because of their play. And maybe 478 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: their play and in Wentz's case maybe a little different 479 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: than de Shaun Watson's of course, but the relationship is fractured. 480 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: That's this is why you do it. You may lose 481 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: a good player now and again, like a Matt Milano, 482 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: like a Jordan Phillips, like a Shack Lawson, but the 483 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: guys that but where those guys go it comes back 484 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: to you later on. And guys who say, you know what, 485 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: I heard good things about the Bills. I'm gonna go 486 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: check it out. Yeah, And that has not always been 487 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: the case here in Buffalo, where players actually put you 488 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: at the top of their list, like a J. J. Watton. 489 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: Where the interest is you say, And that might be 490 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: why JJ Watt right now is openly considering the Bills 491 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: because ESPN's Kimberly Martin reported yesterday that the Bills have 492 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: expressed interest and the feeling is quote definitely mutual. Those 493 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: were her words in describing the Bills and JJ Watt 494 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: and whatever conversations or inquiries have been made by the 495 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: Bills and or JJ Watt's camp. So that's where it sits. 496 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: I think that Watt is in the exploratory phase of 497 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: seeking out who his second NFL club in his career 498 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: will be. You know, because we heard reports out of 499 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland from Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland dot Com that 500 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: there is serious interest on the part of the Browns 501 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: in JJ Watt, and apparently she's claiming that there's mutual 502 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: interest there. So it sounds like he's whittling his list 503 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: down to a handful of considerations. Whether or not the Bills, 504 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: the Browns, and whatever other teams have been mentioned remain 505 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: on that shortlist remains to be seen. It's clear, based 506 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: on some of the teams that have trickled out, Tennessee 507 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: being another, that he's looking to go to a team 508 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: that can contend not only for the playoffs, but presumably, 509 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, a shot at the whole thing. Because that's 510 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: what JJ Watt has at the top of his priority list. 511 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: It would seem at this point in time, I don't 512 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: think there's any reason to think anything different. He wants 513 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: to win, he wants a ring, and I get it, 514 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: and good for him. I mean, he's made his money. 515 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Steve, you know, so now signed a 516 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: six year, one hundred and three million dollars deal and 517 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: this is coming up was going to be his last year. 518 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: The last year the deal seventeen point three million, So 519 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: he's made eighty two point seven on that deal or 520 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: eighty five point seven, So he's set for life from 521 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: a financial perspective. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see 522 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: where that goes going forward, and we can just us 523 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: that on today's show as well. But we have to 524 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: take a break now because coming up next will be 525 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: the latest edition of Tasker's Teammated. Will put Steve to 526 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: work to see if he can figure out what former 527 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: teammate we have on the phone line waiting to speak 528 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: with him. Next. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by 529 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One 530 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: Bills Live. As promised, it is time now for one 531 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: of our Well, it's fun for me. I'm not sure 532 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: if it's fun for Steve. It's probably stressful for Sea. 533 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: But it's one of our more entertaining segments of the week. 534 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: It's Tasker's Teammate, which, as we know, is brought to 535 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: you every week by Wegman's Meals to Go Delicious Meals 536 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: delivered download the Wegman's app. Today, Steve is loosening up. 537 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: He's getting his cerebral cortex ready as he searches the 538 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: deeper recesses of his mind to try to guess this 539 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: week's Taskers team. Are you ready, I'm ready? Okay. Clue 540 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: number one. Born in Miami on Valentine's Day. I was 541 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: tied to my home state through my college playing dates. 542 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: You have a Florida native state. Florida also played college 543 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: ball in the Sunshine State. Born in Miami. Yes, Lonnie Johnson, 544 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: Holy crow, you got it, Steve. Lonnie Johnson is correct 545 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: the first clue. He nailed it down. Wow, Steve, I 546 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: am stunned, and we got Lonnie on the line right now. Man. 547 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: That was quick. Oh that's I can't believe I Congratulations, Lonnie. 548 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: That's gonna make you feel good. My goodness. Listen, I 549 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: am impressed. Hey man, Yeah, hey, look at you. You 550 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: look great. Thank you, it's good. Thanks for coming on. 551 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: And I knew you were one hundred percent Florida guy 552 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: when you came up. And that's I took a shot 553 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: at it. And that's why I didn't That's why I 554 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to give Lonnie's college because I thought that 555 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: would give it away. So, I mean, I was gonna 556 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: tell you, you know, he won a national championship in 557 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: college and this, that and the other. But I wasn't 558 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: going out. I wasn't saying Florida State or Bobby Bowden 559 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: or anything. I wasn't going to do that. Yeah, right now, Yeah, 560 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: did you did you have it? I mean, was it 561 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: readily known? And was it kind of known amongst guys 562 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: in the locker I mean, you and Jim Kelly share 563 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: a birthday. Yes, yeah, I did not know that. Jim 564 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: and I. Actually I don't know if the locker room 565 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: knew it, but Jim and I discussed it obviously regularly. Yeah, 566 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: I did not. I did not know that. I was 567 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: a shot in the dark for me. I just yeah, 568 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: I went with one of the guys I knew was 569 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: Now I know you. Uh, you majored in criminology in college, Lonnie. 570 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: So after school, you did some work at a juvenile 571 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: detention center, doing some work with youth there. Um did 572 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: some youth ministry work. And then I read I've just 573 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: been reading up on you. You You started coaching at the 574 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: youth level. So are you still doing that? Now? What 575 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: are you doing right now? I am still coaching at 576 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: the youth level. Um. As a matter of fact, we 577 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: just won a state championship at the high school I 578 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: coach at someone a high school in Sanford, Florida. Oh, 579 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: great Queen, Orlando and Daytona Beach wild right now? Is 580 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: that that's not? Is that the same school that Gabriel 581 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: Davis went to in high school? That is the same 582 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: Gabriel when he when he's here at someone else, you 583 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: coached him. I coach Gabriel David. Good job, He's an 584 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: amazing worker. I tried to switch him to tight end. 585 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: I wanted, I wanted to take some credit for him 586 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: being like me, Um when he's a nighth grade, tenth grader. Um, 587 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: but he was determined to be a receiver, and I 588 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: told he could play whatever position he wanted because He 589 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: was a hard worker. I have never seen anybody work 590 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: harder than him at at the high school level. One 591 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons the Bills liked Gabriel Davis was his 592 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: leadership and his maturity, his intelligence something I guess and 593 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: we were shocked because we didn't We couldn't, you know, 594 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: because of COVID. We couldn't watch preseason practices, We couldn't 595 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: watch training camp. We have no idea what kind of 596 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: camp Gabriel Davis was having or anything like that. And 597 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: then the team comes out. We're thinking, Okay, they're gonna 598 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: lean on their defense like they did in two thy nineteen, 599 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna run the ball. And the 600 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: Bills come out in four wide more than any team 601 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: early on. And the reason we found out as the 602 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: season ruled on, the reason they felt comfortable doing it 603 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: was Gabriel Davis. The rookie came out. He was ready 604 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: to go. He knew the playbook. He had impressed Josh 605 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Allen and the veterans down in Florida when they were 606 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: working out down there, and he absolutely changed what the 607 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: Bills wanted to do. Offensive identity, Yeah, he changed the 608 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: entire identity of this offense him and Josh Allen's ability 609 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: to you know, to develop. But Gabe Davis's presence gave 610 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: him the ability to do that when nobody thought that's 611 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: what they were gonna do. So hats off to Gabe Davis, 612 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: your protege there. How about hats off to Lonnie for 613 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: coaching them up. Man, that's good stuff. Let me let 614 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: me not take all the credit for doing that. I 615 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: did coach wide receivers when he was there, but I 616 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: give the credit to the fact that he was just 617 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: an eightly a hard worker. I tell you a quick 618 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: story I told kids from his ninth grade tenth grade year, 619 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: because everybody wants to be a professional football player, and 620 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: I try to give them a little more realistic perspective 621 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: on football and how football develops character and all the 622 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: things that try to instill in them. But one of 623 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: the things that Gabled Davis showed me as a young 624 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: player was the fact that he loved his teammates being successful. So, 625 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: for example, he would go and block the cornerback on 626 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: the left side of the field. After throwing that cornerback 627 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: onto the sideline under the benches, would then cut across 628 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: the field at a forty five degree angle to spring 629 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: out running back for a touchdown on the opposite side 630 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: of the field. And I just told that work ethic 631 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: and that determination to help his teammate get into the 632 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: end zone told me that he was not only a 633 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: team player, but he was not selfish and he wanted 634 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: to do whatever it would take in order for his 635 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: team to win. So Lonnie, knowing how deep this Bill's 636 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: college scouting staff, Diggs, had they made any contact with 637 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: you about Gabriel in the pre draft process, Big did not. Actually, 638 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: I had caught around and talked with um when he 639 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: was going to go to college. I was trying to 640 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: get Florida State to take a take a serious look 641 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: at him if they had one receiver that they were 642 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: actually obviously I was a little based on that, but 643 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: they had to receiver that they had to higher than 644 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm on the board. I did reach out to I 645 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: forget who. I reached out to him Buffalo when they 646 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: were when I knew that they were looking at a receiver, 647 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: but I never got a response back. So I never 648 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: talked about individually, but I would have told them that 649 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: same thing. I have never ever, As a matter of fact, 650 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: I tell the story this way, because I try to 651 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: convince my kids would be hard workers. I had never 652 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: ever met a person who worked harder than me personally 653 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: until I met until I went to Kansas City to 654 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: play with Kansa City for that one year, and I 655 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: met Tony Gonzalez. And then the next person I've seen 656 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: since then with the level of work ethic was Gabriel Davis. 657 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: So that's the story I tell him, right, I still 658 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: believe it, and I'm amazing how My question to you, though, Lonnie, 659 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: is you know, having been through that whole kind of 660 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: process yourself, you know, going on to college and then 661 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: on to the pros, now to be on the other 662 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: side of it as a coach and to successfully help 663 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: a young man navigate his way to the NFL and 664 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: enjoy some great success in his first year, I'm curious 665 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: if the feeling for you is different than when you 666 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: were that person, the player. Now you're the coach on 667 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: the other side of it. Does it have the same feeling. 668 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: Does it feel even better to pour that into a 669 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: guy and and see him make it like this? Well, 670 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: it's yes and no. It's a different perspective because you're coaching. 671 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: But there's also a dose of reality that you have 672 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: to that you have to make sure sure that young 673 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: people have. You don't want them unrealistically putting all their 674 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: models in one basket, if you would, And so you 675 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: have to balance it out when you're actually developing a 676 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: young person and you never know who's going to be 677 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: a professional. Actually, I tell people all the time, I 678 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: believe being a professional athlete it's almost like the luck 679 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: of the draw. You just you have no real concrete 680 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: assurance that I'm a professional athlete unless you know that 681 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: you are the best in your position. So I tell 682 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: the kids all the time that you just have to 683 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: be a hard worker, be prepared, seek preparedness, not opportunities. 684 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: And too many young kids look for the opportunity to 685 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: go and show what they can do versus being prepared. 686 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: So if the opportunity presents itself, they actually can step 687 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: into the opportunity and do well for themselves. And so 688 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: from that perspective as a coach, it's a little different 689 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: now as far as me having played and I forget 690 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: the other side of the questions you're asking, but it 691 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: is a little different from having played and working it 692 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: out yourself and then trying to develop young minds to 693 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: understand what it really takes mother deprofessional athlete. Yeah, I 694 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: guess I was just asking from a perspective of pride. 695 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: You have pride in yourself when you succeed and make 696 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: it to the pros as a player. I'm just curious 697 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: if the pride level is any different as a coach now, 698 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: seeing that players succeed that you helped, you know, shephard 699 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: along the way to a certain extent. That's what I 700 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: was getting at. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, without time. 701 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: You can pour into somebody rather it's mentoring, Rather it's 702 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: football rather a child. Whenever you pour into somebody and 703 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: you see them actually take what you're giving them and 704 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: put it to work and put it into practice, there 705 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: is a sense of gratitude. And I took kids all 706 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: the time. We as parents and as coaches, all we 707 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: want to see is those individuals that we're trying to 708 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: help turn around and be successful so we can brag 709 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: on them. So let me just be self deprecating here. 710 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: The last game of my career was in Green Bay. 711 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: The green Bay was coming and I played eleven and 712 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: a half years for Marv Levy and Bruce de Haven 713 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 1: and all those guys. We never ran a fake punt. 714 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: So what happens early in that game five play is 715 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: in I get thrown out of the game, my last 716 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: game as a pro allity, so I got to live 717 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: with that forever. In that game, after I was out, 718 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: the Bills ran the first fake punt of my entire 719 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,959 Speaker 1: tenure in Buffalo, and it was a throw to you 720 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: and you got lit up too, You right, people laughing 721 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: talking about that play every single Damn. I cannot live that, 722 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: I know, right, but know this, Steve um Um, Chris, 723 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: Chris More, Yes, Chris Moore. He I don't think. I 724 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: don't think the Bills called that. I still to this 725 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: day think Chris and I got in the huddle and 726 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: Chris was like, hey, listen, let's let's run a fake punt. 727 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, And that's probably why my mind 728 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't wrap around and I wouldn't. I was thinking I 729 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: was on offense. Like it happened so quick. I was like, yeah, 730 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: let's do it, and he did it, And so I 731 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: don't think the Bills called that play. It's a great throw, 732 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: it's a great throw. I think he always wanted to 733 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: show that he he had an arm. Yeah. Rights, that's one 734 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: I've got for you, Lonni. Before we let you go, 735 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: you got to son that plays football, right, How old 736 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: is he now? And what's his what's his situation? Actually, 737 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is I wish I could claim 738 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: Lonnie Johnson Junior as my son, but he actually is 739 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: not my son. He actually, Um, everybody thinks he's my 740 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 1: son because we have the same name. But my son 741 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: is a firefighter in Tampa as of right now. Firefighter. Okay, Oh, 742 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: he's more important than so. Yeah that's right, front line worker. Yeah, 743 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, Lonnie Johnson, who plays with? I 744 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: forget who Lonnie Johnson plays with? Maybe who want Houston, Texas? 745 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: He's a corner. Yeah, that's might. You're Craig. Now we did. 746 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: I did reach out to him on social media or 747 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: one of my coaches did. Um, he was Everybody thinks 748 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm Lonnie Johnson's son. I would love to meet Lonnie 749 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: Johnson one day, and one of my coaches said, hey, 750 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: we can arrange that coming, do the guests appearance and 751 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: we can make that happen. So maybe I'll get a 752 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: jest to meet them one days. Lonnie's great talking to 753 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: you look great. Thanks for spending some time with good 754 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: luck with you in your high school. Congratulation on the 755 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: state championship. Fantastic, Yes, sir, thank you so much, guys. 756 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: And I want to say this for you guys, Steve. 757 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: My wife and I was talking about you and your 758 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: family just three days ago before I even got invited 759 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: to do this show, talking about the time you had 760 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,959 Speaker 1: it over to the house when I was a guess. 761 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: I was a rookie maybe, and you had those big mastiffs. Yeah. 762 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: My wife ever since then been trying to get me 763 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,959 Speaker 1: to have a Master. I have awarded it up until 764 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: this day. But she loved the Master because you and 765 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: your family had I think two or three masters. We 766 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: had one, we had one. I had five kids, so 767 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: maybe they counted as a second master. That's what it was. Yeah, Lonnie, 768 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: thanks man, and all our best to your family, your 769 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: whole family, and thank you for your son for being 770 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: a firefighter. That's awesome. Yes, sir, thank you guys. Thanks 771 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: for having me, gentlemen, take care of it. That's Lonnie Johnson, 772 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: former Bill's tight end. And uh yeah, I I was 773 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: not bringing up that play. You brought it up. I 774 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: was like, let the team. Listen, I was already out 775 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: of that worst at that game. That's the first year 776 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: I was covering the team full time as a beat 777 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: reporter for WGR And oh my gosh, I have never 778 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: seen a body recoil like that when Lonnie took the hit. 779 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: Now what he was saying was, I got confused. I 780 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: thought I was on offense because they called the play 781 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: quick in the huddle. I guess as he recalls it. 782 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: And that was the last game of the season. You 783 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: guys weren't going to the playoffs. You had nothing to lose, 784 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: so it makes sense. So we'll have to get Chris 785 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: on the horn sometime to see if he called that 786 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: one in the huddle. But Ronnie forgot about the punt return. 787 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: The punt returner saw the play coming and bolted towards 788 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and there's nobody between him and Lonnie, right, 789 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: and Lonnie's looking behind him to see that nobody's gonna 790 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: catch him. And if he's because he's thinking he's smooth 791 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: sailing to the end zone, totally forgot about the punt return. 792 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: It was got lit up like a Christ of the 793 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: down on the field for a while, right, He got 794 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: lit up. Good. Um, it was the rarest of moments 795 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: when everybody knew what was going to happen, except the 796 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: gun's gonna happen too awful. It was awful. I can 797 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: still see his body just recoiling, like you know when 798 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: you get laid out and you're not expecting it, so 799 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: your body's all loose, you know, you tense ump when 800 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: you see that hit coming. He was loosey, goosey, and 801 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: like his I mean it was a yard sale. It 802 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: was just it was like it was the difference between 803 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: tipping over a log that's when you're when you expect it, 804 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: as to hit in the baseball through a blanket hanging 805 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: on a line. That's what his body looked like. That's 806 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: a very good he was the blanket. That's a very 807 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: good vide. That was. Yeah, that was it was like, yeah, 808 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: oh well that was great to catch up with a guy. Yeah, 809 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: he was. And the Gabriel David's connection, how about that, 810 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: Steve look at us uncovering things, making bills, connections from 811 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: one generation to the next. Yeah, there's a lot of 812 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: can we do with it it in the game. More so 813 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: than people, there's thousands upon thousands of kids playing you know, football, 814 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: and it's pro bath as much as we hang around him, 815 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: and professional football players are rare, yeah, because the league 816 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: is virtually small. Like, here's a guy that played in 817 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: the league at the tight end for the Buffalo Bills 818 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: and now he coaches a guy who goes to the 819 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: NFL and plays for the Buffer. I mean, come on, man, Yeah, 820 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: it's like he's it's like he's a grandfather. That's awesome. 821 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: All right, break time for us. All Right, I've been 822 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: the best edition a Tasker's teammate we've held. That was fantastic. 823 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: All those little extra tie ins, that was wonderful. All right, 824 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: break time for us. But we'll be back with more, 825 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: including add King Kabwala at just after the top of 826 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: the hour here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health, 827 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll go back to One Bills Live, 828 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Taster review, and we do have some 829 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: adjustments to our show's schedule. Just after the top of 830 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: the hour, we will have one Chris Mortenson from ESPN, 831 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: one of the two men who just broke the story 832 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: about the Carson Wentz trade. He and Adam Schefter colleagues 833 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: at ESPN just broke the story about Wentz getting traded 834 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: to the Cults by the Eagles, So we'll talk to 835 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: him on the other side of the top of the 836 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: hour here, so be sure to stay tuned for that 837 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: as he kind of gives us some in site as 838 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: to how it all came together. And then at twenty five, 839 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: after about half an hour from now, we'll check in 840 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: with NFL Networks at d D King Kabwala about some 841 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: of the situation going down in Pittsburgh as they have 842 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: some difficult decisions to make down there this offseason, that 843 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: chiefly with their quarterback with you know, what they're gonna 844 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: have to do with Ben to keep him and what 845 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: he's going to settle for in the going in coming months. 846 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: But Steve, for those younger NFL fans, Bill's fans who 847 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: do not remember the play that we were just describing, 848 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: Green Bay, December nineteen ninety seven, Steve Tasker the last 849 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: game of his career. He's already been kicked out of 850 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: the game. But here's the fake punt. Lonnie Johnson with 851 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: the reception and forgets about the punt returner ouch And 852 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you Steve sitting in the press 853 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: box that day. Now, I'm a you know, young cub reporter, 854 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: but I know the decorum that has to exist in 855 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: the press shops. There's no cheering, you don't really react 856 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: to what's going on. You're simply there to cover and 857 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: report what's going on. Is that Darren Sharper might have 858 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: been I think it's Darren Sharper, it was anyway, Um well, 859 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: Darren Sharp is the return man, and and just watching 860 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: the body recoil, look at that, that was rough. I 861 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: don't think. I'm just gonna say there was allowed an 862 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: audible reaction in the locker room in the press box 863 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: that it was just one of these. Much like much 864 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: like I react to the people who bring up my 865 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: last game getting thrown out, he gets that thrown at 866 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: him all the time. Your bump of the official paled 867 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: in comparison to the hit the Darren Sharper get the 868 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: wind knocked out of him in the least. All right, 869 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: break time for us, But stay tuned because we've got 870 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: ESPN's Chris Mortonton coming back when we return. Here on 871 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, 872 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: a tasker who has been over the fields. Kind of unique. 873 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve, 874 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the straged bear 875 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: of normalcy. Welcome to our number two of a Thursday 876 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Chasker with you, 877 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: and in the first hour of the show, we discussed 878 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: the breaking news concerning the Carson Wentz trade. He now 879 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: going from Philadelphia to Indianapolis for a pair of draft picks, 880 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: one a third round pick this spring twenty twenty one, 881 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: and a twenty twenty two conditional second round draft choice 882 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: that could improve to a first round draft choice if 883 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: certain playing time snap counts are met by Wentz as 884 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the Colts. We will be talking 885 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: with one of the men who broke that story, ESPN's 886 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: Chris Mortenson shortly, so we look forward to getting his 887 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 1: insight on how this deal came together. And he's joining 888 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: us right now on the line. ESPN's NFL insider Chris 889 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: Mortenson joining us, one of the men who broke the 890 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: story on the Carson Wentz trade. More thanks for joining 891 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: us and giving us a little time on what's got 892 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: to be a busy day for you. Thanks very much. 893 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: What happened. It's interesting more because everybody thought this was 894 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: going to be a perfect marriage. They felt like if 895 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: you spend it positively in favor of Carson Wentz, things 896 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: started to go south for him when Frank Reich left 897 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: and when that staff got to get started to get 898 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: broken up, as we see successful staffs in the NFL do. 899 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: They got poached. Frank Reich took the job in Indianapolis, 900 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: and it's never been the same for Carson Wentz. Is 901 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: it that simple for Carson or is there more there? 902 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: I think that I think that's the foundation of what 903 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about. I know, listen, Carson played well even 904 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: after Frank left. It just wasn't at the same level. 905 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: And I think that Doug Peterson himself miss Frank Wright. 906 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: I can remember when when Josh McDaniels backed out of 907 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: that Indianapolis coaching deal. I had more than one executive 908 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: or personnel man staff member of the Eagles say oh 909 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: no when they found out Frank was going to interview 910 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 1: because they knew they were gonna lose him, and and 911 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: there were a lot of reasons why things went South 912 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: with Carson in Philadelphia, and it wasn't just Doug Peterson, 913 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: and some of it belonged on Carson, no question about it. 914 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: But it's also faith with the organization. When there's no communication, 915 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: when they really don't tell you that they're going to 916 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: bring in another quarterback, you know, people want to head up. 917 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't that Carson was afraid of competition, that he 918 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: wasn't competing with Jalen Hurts when they drafted after they 919 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: drafted her with the second round pick. It's just a 920 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: matter of communication. I was just saying, hey, oh, by 921 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna wanting to draft this guy for 922 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. And uh, And I think that 923 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: not trust. When you break a trust, here's what I'll say. 924 00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 1: You guys have been married or if still married, if 925 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: you break a trust, you gotta depoted dig out of them. 926 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's exactly what happened. But for me, 927 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: this is a perfect marriage with Indianapolis. I think the 928 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: Coats and Frank Rikens Dix, Carson Wentz, and I think 929 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: Carson can go back to playing pro bo caliber of football, 930 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: which makes the Coats what a Super Bowl contender as 931 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. Yeah, And before we delve into 932 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: more on that, and you know, getting Carson fixed, why 933 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: don't you just kind of spell out for us how 934 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: Chicago kind of fell out of the running. Here can 935 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: you what can you offer us on that, because it 936 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: very quickly became apparent that the Eagles only had one 937 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: potential trade partner in the Colts as it got down 938 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: to the end of this. So what led to Chicago 939 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: falling out of it? Well, I think that there was 940 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: Chicago felt a little bit of backlash from the public 941 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: when the Wentz name came up and everybody thought they'd 942 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: be getting a Matthew Stafford type trade, which is never 943 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: gonna happen. By the way, that was a unique deal. 944 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: I think they're just connecting the Jared Goff and Carson 945 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: Wentz were won two in the same draft, and you know, 946 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: the Lions got two first round picks, but literally the 947 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: Rams gave the Lions a first round pick to take 948 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: Jared Goff's contract off their hands. So that was different. 949 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: But there was a backlash in the public, so they 950 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: weren't paying that type of the ill the type of 951 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: capital U And the other thing is, you know, even 952 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: though John d. Philippo, who was the quarterback coach for 953 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: Carson when when he's having good years? Uh, was there 954 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: Carson had some control here? You know? It's like he 955 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: clearly wanted to go to Indianapolis, and I think the 956 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: Bears started could get difficult, Uh if it was them, 957 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: And why wouldn't you want to go to Indianapolis for 958 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: your Carson? As far as I know, Matt Naggie, the 959 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: coach of the Bears and the generalmanager Ryan Pace of 960 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: the Bears, two guys I like, Uh, as far as 961 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: we know, they got one year to prove this thing 962 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: and then and then what happens. And Carson certainly could 963 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: see the big picture in that as I was his agent, 964 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure. And then bottom line is that the Colts 965 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: gave him the best offer third round pick this year 966 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: and a second round pick next year that could become 967 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: a first depending on playtime in twenty twenty one. So 968 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 1: how do you think this, uh for for Philly plays out? 969 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: Certainly you know they get a draft pick here to 970 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: this year and next year. But um, you know Jalen 971 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: Hurts obviously is the guy going forward. Are they feeling 972 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: better about themselves or you know they fired, their head coach, 973 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: lost their franchise quarterback that they just signed to an extension. 974 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: Looks like a teardown, and you know, yeah, what's the 975 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: what's their take on all this? Well, nobody wanted to 976 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: believe Jeffrey Lewry or I would even say my own 977 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: reporting when I said Doug Peterson was in jeopardy not 978 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 1: was not necessarily anchored to Carson Wentz. And that's proven 979 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: to be true. Uh, they're looking at more of a 980 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 1: long term I think that after they won the super Bowl. 981 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: In fact, I know after they won the Super Bowl, 982 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: they tried to let's see if we can catch you know, 983 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 1: catch some magic gonna bottle here. Let's bring let's keep 984 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: out on Jeffrey, let's bring into Sean Jackson, let's keep 985 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 1: an uh an older injured Jason Peters. And you saw 986 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 1: the offensive wind fall apart to get the Jalen Hurts part. 987 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: He's not going to be annointed the starter, no matter 988 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: what you hear. They may he certainly is the only 989 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: guy there who's who's who. But there's a draft coming up. 990 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: I think they'll draft one or they'll try and acquire 991 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: another one to create a competition there. Nick Sirianni, who, 992 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: as you know, came off Frank Reich staff in Indianapolis. 993 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: Him and his staff. They wanted Carson Wentz to be 994 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: part of this, but it was probably had been framed 995 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 1: as a competition, so that that was what was unique 996 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: about it, because when they hired Sirianni, everybody said, what, oh, 997 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: they're doing this for Carson Wentz. Well, as it turns out, 998 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: they have a long range view of how they're going 999 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: to rebuild this roster, and we'll see. I don't think 1000 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: it'll sit well with Philadelphia fans, but that's why, that's 1001 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 1: why they're Philadelphia talking with the ESPN, NFL insider Chris Mortenson, 1002 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: one of the two men who broke the story on 1003 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz trade today and more. If you look 1004 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: at what needs fixing with Wentz's game, obviously there were 1005 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,959 Speaker 1: a lot of circumstances that surrounded his precipitous drop off 1006 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: in terms of his play in twenty twenty. Obviously had 1007 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: injuries at the receiver positions, injuries at the offensive line 1008 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: positions for the Eagles, and then it looked like he 1009 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: was just a byproduct of trying to do too much 1010 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 1: to try to make up for some of those deficiencies. So, what, 1011 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: in the eyes of maybe some of the people you've 1012 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: talked to needs fixing in Wentz's game, Is it his 1013 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: internal clock? I mean, maybe just if you've gotten any 1014 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: insight on that in terms of what sits at the 1015 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: top of the to do list for fixing him. Yeah, 1016 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: that's I'm glad you mentioned the word eyes because I've 1017 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: always said this, and I covered Major League baseball for 1018 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: a long time. I'm a dinosaur now I've covered NFL 1019 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: for a long time. But the one thing I know 1020 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: is that when a former pitcher sees the pitcher have 1021 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: some mechanics issues, he can see it. And I'll say 1022 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: that for a good quarterback coach who's who's played the 1023 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: position or understands the fundamentals of the position, they can 1024 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 1: see it. What I've been told in Carson Wentz's case 1025 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: by about three people I believe are strong former quarterbacks 1026 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 1: understand it, saying he's in dire need of fundamental going 1027 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: back to the basics fundamentally, whether it's you know, the base, 1028 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,919 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's arm slot, uh, all those things 1029 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: that you know the nuances of of of the mechanics 1030 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: of quarterback that you got to fix that first. And 1031 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: by the way, and if you are getting constantly hit 1032 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: and maybe because you also have receivers who are in 1033 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time, and you're holding 1034 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,760 Speaker 1: onto the ball too long, it affects you. It's clearly 1035 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: affected Carson Wentz. Uh And you can say, is that 1036 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: a weakness? I don't know. I mean, if I put 1037 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: any quarterback up there, who's who's getting hit and rushed 1038 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: too much, all of a sudden, they're not. They're not. Ah, 1039 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're not all world. So but fundamentals was 1040 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: the one thing I know. Nick Sirianni told the Eagles 1041 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: that we can he needs more fundamental oversight. We can 1042 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: fix that. I certainly know that Frank Wright feels the 1043 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: same way. I also the mutual bystanders who also believe 1044 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: that that's really it. So as you look around the league, 1045 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean this, you know, was the Matt Stafford trade, 1046 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: which obviously still has to be finalized. When when things 1047 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: roll around, uh, right, does Carson Wentz trade? Now that 1048 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: we've seen, what's the next domino to fall in this 1049 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: quarterback offseason, Well, we already got a little bit of 1050 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger stuff yesterday, didn't we Huh, that's coming up 1051 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: after you're off of show. We're gonna talk about We're 1052 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: talking to a d day after this. So yeah, so 1053 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: you know we we we anticipated Drew Brees retiring any 1054 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 1: any day now. So that probably means Jamis Winston. I 1055 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: don't know that it means Jamis Winston there. We certainly 1056 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald is to me the most fascinating one because, 1057 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: uh new coaching staff. Sam's the only twenty three years old. 1058 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, his team around him wasn't very good. I 1059 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a good quarterback in this league. 1060 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 1: But they're sitting there saying, we're going into his fourth 1061 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: year of his contract this coming season, and we're gonna 1062 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: have to make a big financial decision. We don't. We 1063 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: hope we're never at number two again, and we really 1064 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: like these quarterbacks. And I think it's Zach Wilson at 1065 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: b YU. So you want to restart the clock with 1066 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and trade Sam Donald. Where would that be? Well? 1067 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: I would say San Francisco would be a spot for 1068 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: Sam and that would send Jimmy Garoppolo, who knows, maybe 1069 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: it sends him back up to New England. Uh you 1070 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: know where does that lead to Shaun Watson or is 1071 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: it just Jimmy Garoppolo to Houston in a dramatic last 1072 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 1: minute Deshaun Watson trade. There's a lot going on. I mean, 1073 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: I will turn out the lights at night occasionally, but 1074 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: I know that Adam Schefter will not, and he's younger 1075 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: than I am. But but it's it's gonna be it's 1076 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: gonna be an interest. It's an interesting time. And we 1077 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: haven't even talked about Denver. So I think that Drew 1078 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: brees retirement is coming. And I think that Sam Donald 1079 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: the Jets just to have to measure the value they 1080 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: can get for the second pick overall versus the value 1081 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: they get for Sam Donald. And do they go ahead 1082 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: and restart the clock from there so they can build 1083 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: that roster up. Yeah, and you touched on jan Ver 1084 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: Mort and they seem to be a player for Watson, 1085 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: or at least someone that Watson would strongly consider, because 1086 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: I know he has some saying the matter. But is 1087 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: the Watson situation one that you think is going to 1088 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: be the long game, if you will, because this just 1089 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 1: looks like a steering contest more than anything right now 1090 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: between the Texans organization and Watson. Yeah, that's the way 1091 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: I read it. Now, you know, Wash we be proven 1092 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: wrong with that's okay. And by the way, I shouldn't 1093 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 1: since we're you guys are in the AFC East. I 1094 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: can't ignore the Miami Dolphins being part of this picture 1095 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: with the sham Watson because that is a preparred destination 1096 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: for him. You always don't get what you want. And 1097 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: we know that Dolphins said we're committed to two. What 1098 00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: else are they gonna say? They don't know if any 1099 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: gonna come down with this Shahn Watson. And you know 1100 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: the AFC, by the way, with once the Indy and 1101 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 1: I think Philip Rivers had a really good year for them. 1102 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: That's a good roster. AFC it's getting it's not getting 1103 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: any weaker, it's getting better. So I'm sure everybody in 1104 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: the Bills organization it's hoping to Shaun Watson if he 1105 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 1: gets traded it's to an NFC team, somebody like the 1106 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: forty nine ers or something like that. Yeah, exactly, And 1107 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's kind of where everybody sits. There's 1108 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: also the big question mark he brought it up is 1109 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 1: new England. I would think they're gonna do almost exactly 1110 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: what they did a year ago, hopefully with better results. 1111 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna wait until somebody's desperate to sign and get 1112 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Cam Newton who was a former MVP 1113 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: within the last six years, and see if they can 1114 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: get something out of him. They'll probably kind of hang out, 1115 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: wait in the weeds and see which is the last 1116 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: apple to fall off the tree and grab it. That's 1117 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: what it appears to be. But I think they maybe 1118 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 1: they have a little more urgency this time, you know, 1119 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean we were told six weeks ago, you know, 1120 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: Cam Newton's not totally out of the picture there. But uh, 1121 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, let's see if they try and draft one 1122 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: let's or trade. I just mentioned Jimmy Garoppolo. We know 1123 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 1: that he certainly got a connection here. What happens it 1124 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette, who's who's really well respected, uh you know, 1125 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: who's been in New England. But I don't necessarily see 1126 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots saying, Okay, Jacoby is the guy. And we're 1127 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: not even talking about the Carolina Panthers with Teddy Bridgewater 1128 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 1: because we don't know they're going to be aggressive in 1129 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: this market. H as well as with the Shaan Watson 1130 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: and some of these other guys. So h, this is 1131 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: almost like the old Baseball Hot Stove League. This is 1132 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: this is this is going to be pretty pretty incredible. 1133 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I really do. And I you know, like I said, 1134 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: we're on a Bill's format here programs, and I think 1135 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,479 Speaker 1: it's the Bills are watching closely because you know, they've 1136 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 1: got some moster things to do, and and uh, every 1137 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: other trade that happens I think affects them in terms 1138 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: of the competitive edge. Uh as we go into the 1139 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, so so more real quick and this 1140 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: is the last one for me. How how apt do 1141 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: you think the Broncos organization is to try to upgrade 1142 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: from Drew Locke there in Denver? I mean, are they 1143 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: hard up to get a change much like Chicago seems 1144 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: to be, or where would you put their level of 1145 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: interest in upgrading their quarterback situation. Obviously, they got to 1146 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: play in a division where they got to play the 1147 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: homes twice a year, so maybe they are in a 1148 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: sense of urgency. But I'm just curious what the temperature 1149 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: of the room is there in terms of upgrading that position. Yeah, 1150 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting in December. I really thought that feedback I 1151 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: got from there they like Drew Locke. Yeah, and they 1152 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: obviously offered him Matthew Stafford sweep stakes. But listen, Matthew Stafford, 1153 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I guess people, some people don't agree with this. Uh, 1154 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 1: he's he's a special quarterback. He's a special guy. So 1155 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's you know, there's not another Matthew Stafford 1156 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: out there unless you're going to sell everything to get 1157 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. That's my opinion. So I don't know that 1158 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: they are going to dump Drew Locke just for anybody 1159 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: or just upgrade it slightly. I think that they feel 1160 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: like they would have to have a grand Slam with 1161 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: the Shaun Watson or somebody like that to justify giving 1162 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: up Drew Locke, who has shown promise there, who is athletic, 1163 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: who has an arm and us somebody you can certainly 1164 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: good with. More to know, it's an incredibly busy day, 1165 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking some time out, and this story is yeah, 1166 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty intriguing because we're you know, I personally 1167 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 1: have a friend in Frank Wright, who I know is 1168 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 1: going to give his best effort to try and fix 1169 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: a guy like Carson Wentz, thanks for taking some time 1170 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: out of your busy day on a day like this 1171 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: when stuff's coming down to spend it with us. Yeah, 1172 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: I'll just say this, I know this much. I'm happy 1173 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 1: for Frank Wright. I'm happy for Carson Wentz. I'm happy 1174 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: for Chris Ballard, the general manager there. Yeah, thanks, you 1175 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks mort All right, that's yes, NFL inside 1176 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: or Chris Morton joining us. I didn't say anything about 1177 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 1: anybody in Philadelphia's happy. Well, they're probably not happy. They 1178 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: they drafted a guy's second overall five years ago, thought 1179 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: he was their franchise quarterback and now he's not. So 1180 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 1: how can you be happy for anybody in Philadelphia? They 1181 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: had to cut the cord on something they probably didn't 1182 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: want to cut the cord on. Do you think they 1183 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 1: wanted to fire Doug Peterson? Do you think they wanted 1184 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: to trade Carson Wentz? Right now, Philadelphia got up this morning, 1185 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: looked in the mirror and they realized that yesterday were 1186 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 1: they were on a bender and they look awful. Yeah, 1187 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: they're still hung over. They're they're looking bad. Oh my god, 1188 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: this is like a two day hangover. Yea a one 1189 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: day yeah, yeah, because I mean you asked more at 1190 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 1: the question. But I don't see how you can look 1191 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: at Philadelphia as anything other than a teardown. Here in 1192 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. They have an extra three in the trade, 1193 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: may get an extra one next year. But now they're 1194 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: gonna have a road They got a lengthy road back. 1195 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 1: They got a lot of veterans, UM, guys on the 1196 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty. They got a lot of work 1197 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: to do there. Jalen Lotton may be the guy, He 1198 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: may turn out to be a really good quarterback, Yeah, 1199 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 1: but he's not going to realize that this year, Steve. 1200 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: With all the holes they have on that roster, right, 1201 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: and the question is, you know, what are they gonna 1202 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 1: You know, they got to build an entire team. I mean, 1203 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 1: this wasn't about the quarterback, um, not entirely. It was 1204 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: about nobody being there to help him. It was about injuries. 1205 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: It was about you know, offensive lineman who weren't up 1206 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 1: to snuff and then got injured. Um. It was and 1207 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: in a year and you want to talk about a 1208 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: wasted opportunity, The entire division that they played in stunk, 1209 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: I mean stunk. Nobody was over five hundred the winner 1210 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: was eight and eight. No, the winner was losing record? 1211 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Was it seven and nine Washington? Yeah, that's right? Or 1212 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 1: six nine and one, seven and nine? I think. So 1213 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: they just stunk and so did you. And that's for 1214 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: the same head. And I'll tell you this too. That's 1215 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: how do you have a coach good enough to get 1216 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: a squad a team that's never you know, that hasn't 1217 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: been there in twenty thirty years, hasn't been to the 1218 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl in over thirty years. You finally get a 1219 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: head coach who's good enough to get you there, and 1220 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 1: two and a half three years later, you kick him 1221 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: to the curb. I mean, what changed? Did he change? Yeah? 1222 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but I gotta tell you if 1223 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I am the Eagles management, I got a new, first 1224 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: time head coach. We got to reset, reset the deck here, 1225 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: as far as I'm saying, you hit the reset button. 1226 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: So Fletcher Cox, I'm trading him for draft picks, you 1227 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Derek Barnett, maybe he's still young 1228 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: enough to hold onto, but you know, older players. I'm 1229 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: looking for veteran I'm looking for teams that are one 1230 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: step away that would be interested in a player like that, 1231 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: and I'm moving on because with thirty four million dollars 1232 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 1: in dead cap that you already have, what the hell 1233 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 1: is the difference if you incur more of that? Just 1234 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: trade people for draft choices. This is a throwaway year. 1235 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: It takes the pressure off your first time new head coach. 1236 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 1: In year one, you're just trying to lay a foundation 1237 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: this year, be somewhat competitive, and then reload for next year, 1238 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: where you hopefully have an extra one from Indie. Granted 1239 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna be a high one, but and 1240 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: then you start adding the building blocks. This has got 1241 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 1: to be a complete and utter teardown. Why are you 1242 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,439 Speaker 1: going to middle it in Philadelphia? Your team's, your fans 1243 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: aren't gonna be happy if you're seven and nine again, 1244 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 1: so you might as well be three and thirteen. Yeah, 1245 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking at the cap for Philly. It's ugly. 1246 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: You can't do anything anyway to get good. It's so 1247 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: just be awful. They are ranked thirty one of thirty two, 1248 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: ahead of New Orleans. Will you just set a league 1249 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,479 Speaker 1: record there for dead cap with one player? Thirty four 1250 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: million goes on your cap for a guy that's not 1251 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: even there. They were forty one. They were forty one 1252 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 1: million dollars over the cap before the wins. I'm just 1253 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,759 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I am not a front office expert, 1254 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:22,440 Speaker 1: but Steve hear this. It would be hoof the Philadelphia 1255 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Eagles to suck this year because with all that dead cap, 1256 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: you can't do anything anyway. It cripples your maneuverability. So 1257 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 1: you may as well stink this year. What's the point 1258 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 1: of going six and ten or seven and nine. There's 1259 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 1: no point. Just stink this year and reload for next year. 1260 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: That's what you gotta do. Here's the thing. Think about this, 1261 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's like this or not, but 1262 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: it begs the question, you just hired this new head coach. 1263 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 1: Are you gonna set him up to fail? So you're 1264 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna be right back here in two and a half 1265 01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 1: three years? Well, I know, I don't think you are 1266 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,600 Speaker 1: setting him up to fail. You have a quarterback you 1267 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: can work with and develop, draft some linemen, get rid 1268 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 1: of some veteran cost prohibitive salaries, try to find some 1269 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: middle tier players in free agency. You know, like if 1270 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,560 Speaker 1: you get rid of if you throw Fletcher Cox overboard 1271 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: and can get some like a middle round draft choice 1272 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: for a Pro Bowl defensive tackle. Yeah, you're gonna incurse 1273 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: some more dead cap. But if you can turn that 1274 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: money into two or three middle tier players to at 1275 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 1: least field a team and you can be competitive, and 1276 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: you know you're five and eleven or four and twelve, 1277 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: what the hell's the difference? Now you're drafting higher next 1278 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,599 Speaker 1: year and you can reload. This is like a three 1279 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 1: year plan as I see it. If you if you 1280 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: cut Fletcher Cox, your cap hit with him on the 1281 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 1: team's twenty three point eight. If you cut him, it's 1282 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,759 Speaker 1: twenty one. Save two million, two million. If you cut 1283 01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 1: Brandon Graham seventeen, it's eighteen million, just eighteen million. If 1284 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 1: you cut him, it's seventeen million dead money. If it's 1285 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 1: Beat Johnson. If you cut Lane Johnson, you save seventeen 1286 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 1: point eight, but it costs you thirty nine and dead. 1287 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. If you cut Darius Slay, his 1288 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 1: cap hits fifteen. If you cut him, it's twenty one 1289 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 1: point seven. They're dumb. I'm sorry. It's John Hargrave if 1290 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 1: you if you keep him, he's fifteen point Javon Hargrave. 1291 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 1: If he's if you keep him, he's fifteen point two. 1292 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 1: If you cut him, he's twenty two point five dead. 1293 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Good lord, if you Brandon Brooks, if you keep him, 1294 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: he's fourteen and a half million. If you cut him, 1295 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: he saves you one point five. He still cost you thirteen. 1296 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: Who are these guys? Howie Roseman, what are you doing? 1297 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: What are you doing? That's see, here's the thing. DeShawn Jackson, 1298 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 1: he's gone. He's ten point six if you keep him, 1299 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,600 Speaker 1: five point eight if you cut him. Yeah, but that 1300 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: it's a mess. It's a mess. You can't even you 1301 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 1: can't even cut these guys. But that's my point. There's 1302 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: no way they can compete. I mean, al Shan Jeffrey 1303 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 1: cost you six point five to keep him. If you 1304 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: cut him, he's ten point five. And he doesn't even 1305 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: dress half the time. I mean, Nick guy's missed half 1306 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 1: his games the last three years. No wonder. They stink, 1307 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 1: And my point is they're going to continue to stink, 1308 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: So you may as well just stink this year, get 1309 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: a high, and hopefully rebuild through the draft. You got it. 1310 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: These You got some albatross contracts there. That's shouldn't you 1311 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 1: should almost you should almost force the league's hand. Cut 1312 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,599 Speaker 1: all those guys I just said, and have more dead 1313 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 1: cap space than you have cap. Yeah, see what happens. 1314 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: Just say, I'm sorry, bro, Yeah, we don't have a 1315 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: team to fee. We don't have a team. I mean 1316 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: Philadelphia really taking on that thirty four million in dead 1317 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: cap with the Wentz trade is essentially going to be 1318 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: made up of those seven players you mentioned that they 1319 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 1: can't cut because they cost more to cut than to keep, 1320 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 1: and minimum salary guys upwards of thirty five to forty 1321 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: minimum salary guys. That is what that team will be. 1322 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 1: The Rams will be that team. Also, it's gonna be 1323 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cup, Robert Woods, Matthew Stafford, 1324 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,800 Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys. Yeah, that's what it's gonna be. 1325 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: You can't cut any of these guys. No, Marquis good one, 1326 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 1: he's gone. He saves you four point five. You can't. 1327 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 1: All these guys have a lower cap hit to keep 1328 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 1: them than they do to cut them, all of them, 1329 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: all the way down the roster. It's terrible. Dallas Goddard, 1330 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: he's gone. They can't keep him. Zach Ertz is gone. 1331 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Last year, Sanders gone Miles Sanders on a rookie daie. 1332 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: He's killing him. He's the only guy that you can 1333 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: not they will save you money. I don't know if 1334 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 1: they do that. Maybe they do. They could trade him, Yeah, 1335 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 1: they'd probably trade him. I mean, you're all the way 1336 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 1: down to these these minimum guys. They're the only ones 1337 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 1: that can save you any money. It's terrible, it's it's 1338 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,759 Speaker 1: so horrible, it's really bad. Um. And and they're not alone. 1339 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: There are other teams in similar boats, maybe not to 1340 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,600 Speaker 1: that degree, but the Saints are in that boat, The 1341 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Seagulls are in that boat, the Rams are in that boat. 1342 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 1: And there are gonna be teams with upwards of twenty 1343 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 1: something players on their roster that you've never even heard of, 1344 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: because they're gonna be minimum salary guys or rookies or 1345 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, and you're gonna be like, who the 1346 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: heck are these streets for you? You're not gonna know, 1347 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 1: You're not gonna they're just they're just gonna have to 1348 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,719 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be really compelling this fall with somebody 1349 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: is gonna get vilified for it because well, I'd like 1350 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 1: to think he's gonna get a pass this year. I 1351 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 1: could be wrong, yes, but you know what, it's Philly. 1352 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: Next year, Yes, next year, it's on like Monkey Kong, 1353 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 1: it's Super Bowl or bust, and you know it's just 1354 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. That's that. I've never seen anything a 1355 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 1: roster like that built like that. They not only look 1356 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: at the rams, not only look at the rams, not 1357 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 1: only do they have no this is this is before 1358 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 1: the rams. Yeah, this is this is a step before 1359 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: they get to the rams. Yeah. Because you can't even 1360 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: you can't even trade these guys. You can't. You can't 1361 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 1: cook the books and make it work exactly, you can't. 1362 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't matter how much cash you've got. 1363 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 1: You can't believe. There's nothing. You don't even have a tab. Wow, 1364 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 1: your tab would probably get you sent to jail at 1365 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,759 Speaker 1: this point. That's how bad it is. It's ugly break 1366 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,839 Speaker 1: break time for us. When we come back, another national 1367 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 1: reporter coming your way. It's NFL Networks, a Deeny Kinkabwalla 1368 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: who's going to help lay out the scenario in Pittsburgh, 1369 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 1: which quite frankly isn't a whole lot better than Philly. 1370 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 1: So we'll talk to you adity about the Ben Roethlisberger situation, 1371 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster a free agent, James Connor a free agent, 1372 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 1: and neither of them likely to return to Pittsburgh. We'll 1373 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: get the lay of the land down there when we 1374 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 1: return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. 1375 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live. 1376 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Chaster, second half of the program here 1377 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 1: on a Thursday, A busy Thursday. Quarterback movement and quarterback 1378 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 1: decisions already dominating the NFL offseason here in twenty twenty one, 1379 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: and what is going to be a restrictive cap season 1380 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: of hard decisions. GM Steve are going to be making 1381 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:54,679 Speaker 1: their money this offseason with some of the undertakings. We're 1382 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 1: just going down the list of the Pittsburgh roster, of course, 1383 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: bends up for a forty one million dollar hit out 1384 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 1: that will happen. But there's some teams in some real 1385 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 1: problems with some really great players that you can't it's 1386 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,800 Speaker 1: hard to see your way to keeping them. Yeah, and 1387 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 1: here to discuss more about Pittsburgh situation in particular, is 1388 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 1: one a d D King. Kadwalla from NFL Network kind 1389 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 1: enough to juggle her schedule to get on with us, 1390 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,720 Speaker 1: because you know, these NFL network people, they're pretty busy, 1391 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: most of them today, they are I know that. Add 1392 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: how you doing, thanks for joining us? Well, I got 1393 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 1: pushed aside by Carson Wentz. Let's be honest, yesterday Ben 1394 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was the most important news. And you know, you 1395 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: blink your eyes with somebody else. Yeah, so well, you know, 1396 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,560 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, that's old news for us. We want to 1397 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 1: talk about Ben here because it could be while it 1398 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: will be the next decision possibly among the quarterback contingent 1399 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 1: in this league. You know, people thought, well, you know quarterbacks, 1400 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: and sixteen different teams are going to have different quarterbacks, 1401 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, I get out of here. 1402 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: That number is way too high. But quickly the numbers 1403 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: are ticking up here, and Ben's decision looks like it's 1404 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: going to be more of a Steeler's organizational decision than his, 1405 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 1: at least as it pertains to the only team he's 1406 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 1: known right well, and this is what part of the 1407 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 1: messiness is is that it doesn't feel as if the 1408 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Steelers really truly have any sort of consensus on what 1409 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,920 Speaker 1: that decision is. So let's go over what we know. 1410 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,680 Speaker 1: We know that Ben Roethlisberger has told Art Rooney, Kevin Colbert, 1411 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin that he wants to come back. We 1412 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: know that Ben Roethlisberger is on the record saying he 1413 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 1: doesn't need a raise. He is scheduled to make nineteen 1414 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,679 Speaker 1: million dollars. Nineteen million dollars right now is absolutely middle 1415 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: of the pack for starting quarterback in the NFL. And 1416 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,839 Speaker 1: look if Josh Allen, your guy, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, 1417 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 1: if they get new contracts this offseason, then Ben suddenly 1418 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 1: moves into the bottom of the pack forget middle of 1419 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,639 Speaker 1: the back. So we know Ben Roethlisberger wants to be back, 1420 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 1: We know that he's happy to pay for nineteen million dollars. 1421 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 1: And we also know that Roethlisberger has said he is 1422 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 1: willing to be as flexible as he needs to be 1423 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: to help the Steelers bring that absolutely prohibitive forty one 1424 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,760 Speaker 1: million dollars cap number down. Yeah, and that's really what 1425 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: it's about, right, add the cap hit? Correct? Well, Okay, 1426 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 1: this is very interesting that you're saying that, because I 1427 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,839 Speaker 1: very specifically asked Kevin Colbert this yesterday. Is this entirely 1428 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 1: an issue of finances, and he said, well, first and foremost, 1429 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 1: But he also said all of the above when I asked, 1430 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 1: or is this a question of whether it's time to 1431 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 1: move on from Ben, whether there's any question whether Ben 1432 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 1: can still do it, whether it's you know, look, the 1433 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 1: organization at some point needs to face life after Ben. 1434 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,640 Speaker 1: So do you rip off the band aid now or 1435 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 1: do you let this go on for another year or so? 1436 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 1: And the truth is, there's not a plan. The Steelers 1437 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,679 Speaker 1: are an organization that don't operate with multi year plans. 1438 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: Their GM is constantly on a one year contract. They 1439 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: believe that they are competing for a Super Bowl every 1440 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 1: single year, so everything they do is focused on the 1441 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 1: coming year. This is why they're constantly in cap hell 1442 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: quite frankly to say that on the air. Yeah, sure, 1443 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 1: here's the real question. And forget the GM and the 1444 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: ownership and the players. I want to know who the 1445 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 1: really important. I want to know what the fans think. 1446 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 1: Do they like Ben, they want Ben back or you know, 1447 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 1: or do they think they can do better? So I 1448 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: love that you asked this because I actually posted that 1449 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 1: as a poll this morning, and just as I was 1450 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 1: about to start with you, guys. I was checking, and 1451 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 1: more than three thousand people have answered the question Life 1452 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 1: without Ben is coming, whether it's now or somewhere in 1453 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 1: the future. If you got to vote, what would you prefer? 1454 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Rip off the band aid now or try to rekindle 1455 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 1: the magic? Go ahead, guys, give me a guess. What 1456 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,599 Speaker 1: do you think the breakdown? Listen, he bought the band 1457 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 1: aid or rekindle? Rekindle the magic for me that you 1458 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 1: can't move on from him unless you have an option, 1459 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 1: So I say, yeah, he's your guy. I would say, 1460 01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 1: in the absence of a plan, I'll go sixty forty 1461 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 1: stick and try to rekindle the magic. I'm sorry, gentlemen, 1462 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 1: both of you are completely wrong. Really, see eight percent 1463 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 1: of Steelers fans say it's time to rip off the 1464 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 1: band wow, and thirty two percent are willing to try. 1465 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,599 Speaker 1: And in that thirty two percent, I bet there's quite 1466 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 1: a few Browns fans answers yeah. And I would say 1467 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 1: this adity. I would be in that camp myself. I 1468 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,679 Speaker 1: was just thinking nostalgia, I guess, and two Super Bowls 1469 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 1: and all of the things that he's done for the 1470 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 1: organization might get him a little cache with the fan base, 1471 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 1: but I guess I don't know Pittsburgh fans very well. Yeah, 1472 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: I think this is one of those what have you 1473 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: done for me lately? And yes, the Steelers did start 1474 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,639 Speaker 1: eleven and oh and yes, the first about six weeks 1475 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: eight weeks of the season, Ben looked tremendous. It felt 1476 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 1: like he was reading the field better than he ever had, 1477 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,360 Speaker 1: that he was deciphering defenses, he was getting rid of 1478 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 1: the ball so quickly. But then all of a sudden, 1479 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers reverted to what they had been the last 1480 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 1: few years. No run game, no offensive dynamism. Quite frankly, 1481 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 1: they dropped five of six they aimed out in the 1482 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,600 Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs to the Browns. And unfortunately, 1483 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is looking at his thirty ninth birthday. He 1484 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 1: can't move like he wants did, so he either needs 1485 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: to recognize that the juice on his fastball is gone 1486 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 1: and he needs to adjust his game in some way, 1487 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: or look, the Steelers just can't play the way that 1488 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 1: he's used to playing. They have a new offensive coordinator, 1489 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,080 Speaker 1: they have a new quarterbacks coach. At some point, you 1490 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 1: have to move forward, and I think that Steelers fans 1491 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 1: right now, are feeling that they're in limbo while they 1492 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,240 Speaker 1: continue to stay with Ben and they know that their 1493 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,599 Speaker 1: offense is not moving forward. Okay, so the fans seem 1494 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,200 Speaker 1: to see the writing on the wall that we can 1495 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: no longer compete at the upper echelon of the AFC. 1496 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Forget about the league. I mean we're talking Mahomes and 1497 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,799 Speaker 1: the other people at the top of the AFC mountain 1498 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,519 Speaker 1: that you're going to have to compete with every year. 1499 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,639 Speaker 1: They don't see Roethlisberger as a quarterback capable of doing 1500 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: that for them. How apt do you think the Steelers are? 1501 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 1: How ready are they to do what looks like is 1502 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 1: going to amount to a complete year down here in 1503 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, because you've got a lot I mean, 1504 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,559 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster's probably not coming back with their current 1505 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: cap situation. Neither is James Connor Villaneuva, the left tackle, 1506 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 1: probably not coming back. They've got a major revamp assignment 1507 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 1: on their hands on the offensive line. I mean, this 1508 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,840 Speaker 1: looks like a teardown project. Are they ready to undertake 1509 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty one? Well, but what's the alternative? 1510 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Can you be realistic here and can you look at 1511 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,599 Speaker 1: the Steelers and say, okay, this is legitimately a Super 1512 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,360 Speaker 1: Bowl contender this coming year. It felt like last year 1513 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,400 Speaker 1: was indeed their year. That defense was unbelievable. They had 1514 01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of faces on that defense that they may 1515 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 1: not have now. Bud Dupree, Mike Hilton, Cam Sutton, these 1516 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,879 Speaker 1: are guys that you know now are all free agents 1517 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 1: and likely will not be resigned here. So I think 1518 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,040 Speaker 1: it's a misnomer to say that you can't win with Ben. 1519 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,799 Speaker 1: You can't win with Ben if you run the offense 1520 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 1: that you ran a year ago, which was essentially background football, 1521 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,080 Speaker 1: no run game, no sort of rhythm or I mean, 1522 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 1: we could sit here and I had multiple players on 1523 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 1: other teams tell me this was the single most predictable 1524 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 1: offense to prepare for in the entire NFL. You can 1525 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,679 Speaker 1: win with him. We saw what Philip Rivers was able 1526 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 1: to do without necessarily having all the same physical skills 1527 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: that he once had at his disposal. You can win 1528 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,960 Speaker 1: if there is a willingness to sort of say, Okay, 1529 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Ben isn't going to carry the offense. The offense is 1530 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 1: going to sort of work through him. Perhaps you rely 1531 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,320 Speaker 1: on the run game more, but in order to say 1532 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:35,000 Speaker 1: that you need an offensive line, you need a running back, 1533 01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 1: so it's very easy to say that. And you need 1534 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback who's willing to play differently than he has 1535 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 1: since arguably his first or second year or before he 1536 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,680 Speaker 1: was really superman. And to your question, let me just 1537 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 1: get back to this point when you talk about the 1538 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,640 Speaker 1: organization being willing to move on the way that I 1539 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,200 Speaker 1: see it, there are three significant decision makers here. There's 1540 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 1: a GM, there's a head coach, and there's an owner. 1541 01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I can tell you from my conversations, I believe one 1542 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,559 Speaker 1: of them those people is inclined to just move forward. 1543 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,840 Speaker 1: One of those people is still sort of holding onto 1544 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 1: the idea of staying with Ben. And I have no 1545 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,640 Speaker 1: idea what the third person is thinking. Yeah, because I mean, 1546 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: not right there explained Yeah, And I mean you can 1547 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 1: don't think they know in that building what they wanted 1548 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,679 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. And you can make the Philip Rivers 1549 01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: argument all day long, but to me, it's apples and oranges. 1550 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,719 Speaker 1: The Colts were largely a complete roster, a good defense, 1551 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,680 Speaker 1: a solid offensive line, really good skill position players at 1552 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,640 Speaker 1: running back and receiver and even tight end. And you 1553 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,240 Speaker 1: just drop a veteran quarterback like Rivers in there and 1554 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 1: it works. You don't have that in Pittsburgh with their 1555 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 1: cap situation. I mean they may have to cut. I 1556 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: mean Steve was running down the list. I mean you've 1557 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 1: got Steven Nelson and Joe Hayden. Those guys represent big 1558 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 1: cap savings. That's your two starting corners that you may 1559 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 1: have to subtract, along with all the other free agents 1560 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 1: that you mentioned, Toddy, I don't see how it works 1561 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,679 Speaker 1: right Well, you know you have the idea Joe Hayden 1562 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,920 Speaker 1: is a fifteen million dollar cap head. I could see 1563 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden taking a cut. I could see Joe Hayden 1564 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 1: being will to renegotiate. He's built a new house here, 1565 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 1: he's sort of on the tail end of his career. 1566 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 1: He loves playing for Mike Tomlin and in this defense 1567 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 1: right here, I could see that happening. It's but again, 1568 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: you talk about dropping somebody in a year ago, the 1569 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: Steelers were that team. They did go out and get 1570 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,160 Speaker 1: Riki broughn at tight end, Vance McDonald there's a guy 1571 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 1: who's a proven tight end who of course now is retired. 1572 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,599 Speaker 1: They did have an unbelievably deep receiving corps. I mean 1573 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 1: I started the season saying that these receivers could rival 1574 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 1: the young money crew of Emmanuel Sanders, Mike Wallace, and 1575 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown that were here about six seven years ago. 1576 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 1: They had that they had a veteran offensive line that 1577 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,479 Speaker 1: had been together for a long time, and they certainly 1578 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 1: believed in James Connor, who had been an Offensive Player 1579 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 1: of the Month just recently. The problem is that the 1580 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,959 Speaker 1: Steelers have not shown a commitment to running the football. 1581 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,200 Speaker 1: And if you look back the first six weeks of 1582 01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,760 Speaker 1: the season, they were running the football. When they ran 1583 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 1: the football, their offense was more balanced, and they were 1584 01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 1: winning in very lovely ways. Then they chose to stop 1585 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 1: running the football, and people in Pittsburgh like to say, well, 1586 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't run the ball. I argue the fact that 1587 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: you can't run. If you don't run, you need to 1588 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 1: run the football to be able to run the football. 1589 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,799 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that that's part of the problem. 1590 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 1: If you don't commit to actually having that part of 1591 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 1: your game, why do you expect it to happen? And 1592 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers haven't run the football for three years now, 1593 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,640 Speaker 1: why do you think he didn't run? When Ben Roethlisberger 1594 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 1: was hurt and they did the year before and when 1595 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 1: he was on his way to five thousand passing yards. 1596 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? I the new offensive coordinator? 1597 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,200 Speaker 1: Did that? Did that take the fall? It was an 1598 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,720 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator decision? Was it a Ben Roethlisberger decision? Was 1599 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,040 Speaker 1: it the team kind of acquiesce in to Ben's wishes 1600 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 1: that that's the kind of offense he wanted to run. 1601 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, where does that decision come from? And what 1602 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, what's Mike Tomlin got to say about all 1603 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: of that? Well, can we say all of the above 1604 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 1: right there? The team ran a very different offense when 1605 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,320 Speaker 1: Todd Haley was here. When they moved from Todd Haley 1606 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 1: to Randy Fechner, who had been Ben Roethlisberger's quarterbacks coach 1607 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 1: forever and ever and ever, they moved away from the 1608 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: run game. Even when the run was running again, go 1609 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 1: back and look, James Connor was running the ball really 1610 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 1: well while Levyon Bell was sitting out and not showing 1611 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 1: up and nobody knew if he'd be here or not. 1612 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 1: James Connor was actually the offensive player of the month 1613 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 1: while Levyon Bell was still sitting on his couch. And 1614 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,080 Speaker 1: kind of holding everybody hostage. Then all of a sudden, 1615 01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers stopped running the football. And I know that 1616 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin talked about balance, but Ben kept saying, well, 1617 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, these short passes counts runs, and it's not 1618 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 1: really about how many times you run, it's just running 1619 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 1: when you want to be able to run. Well, that's 1620 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 1: nice if you have Jim Brown in your backfield, but 1621 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,240 Speaker 1: that's not what the Steelers had. They can't just turn 1622 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,680 Speaker 1: it on and expect it to happen. And so for 1623 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,320 Speaker 1: the last few years we've heard the Steelers say, we 1624 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,120 Speaker 1: want to run the ball, we want to run the ball, 1625 01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: and yet they don't. And now Randy Fikner has lost 1626 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,479 Speaker 1: his job, even though all season long the conversation in 1627 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was about how Ben was drawing up plays in 1628 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,680 Speaker 1: the dirt and Ben was diagnosing defenses and Ben was 1629 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of playing backyard football to some degree. So again 1630 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,720 Speaker 1: that all goes to you have a new offensive coordinator 1631 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 1: in Matt Canada. Is Ben Roethlisberger going to do exactly 1632 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 1: what is Matt Canada going to build something that best 1633 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,559 Speaker 1: suit Spen And is Ben going to be willing to 1634 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,000 Speaker 1: play whatever that is that Matt Canada wants to play. Yeah, 1635 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,600 Speaker 1: he believes best suit spen. Yeah, we're tight on time heredity. 1636 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 1: But in twenty seconds, let's just assume Pittsburgh rips the 1637 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,760 Speaker 1: band aid off. There is no Ben in Pittsburgh. Do 1638 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 1: you think there isn't a remote chance that Ben plays 1639 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: somewhere else in his age thirty nine season if it 1640 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 1: doesn't come together with the Steelers. No, I don't see 1641 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,559 Speaker 1: that happening. I really don't. I also don't see how 1642 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,559 Speaker 1: he could possibly leave. You know, the Steelers have this 1643 01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 1: way of they don't want to force anybody out. They 1644 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,439 Speaker 1: want to frame it as retirement. We saw how that 1645 01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 1: worked with Bruce Arians, we saw how that worked with 1646 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 1: Troy Palamala. There's still a lot of bitterness. So I 1647 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,599 Speaker 1: don't think that the Steelers are going to ever call 1648 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 1: it a release to a cut. But do they really 1649 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,840 Speaker 1: want Ben Roethlisberger angry at the franchise? And I don't see. 1650 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Ben's not a guy that practices every day. 1651 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know, so I can't imagine him going 1652 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,000 Speaker 1: someplace house and being a starter. He's got it pretty 1653 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 1: good here. He everybody knows him here, he knows everyone here. 1654 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 1: If he's playing, he's playing here, all right, all right, 1655 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,240 Speaker 1: thank you, great stuff, as usual, good to see it, 1656 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. We appreciate it as always. That's 1657 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 1: a Dad Kant kabwella NFL network reporter who is based 1658 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,720 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and really knows that organization inside and out. 1659 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 1: And boy, that is just that's ugly capital U G 1660 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 1: l Y that scenario there and the cap. Yeah, it's 1661 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,439 Speaker 1: ugly And there's no easy answer. Ben can do whatever, 1662 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 1: they can do whatever they want with Ben, and they 1663 01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 1: can take the hit next year or whatever. The question is, 1664 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 1: this is Mason Rudolph going to be better than Ben 1665 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger in that season for sixteen games, seventeen weeks? And 1666 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 1: they also have Dwayne Haskins on a reserve futures contract 1667 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 1: one your deal. I am not I'm not a fan 1668 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,200 Speaker 1: of his either. I'm just I'm just laying out the 1669 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,720 Speaker 1: other options you have there, and they're few and far. 1670 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,760 Speaker 1: Dayne Haskins has a lot of work to do. Yes, 1671 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,479 Speaker 1: if he's gonna step in unless you want to, unless 1672 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 1: you want to say, hey, this guy's showing us something Ben. Thanks. 1673 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, and let's not forget Matt Canada. The new 1674 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 1: OC comes from Pitt, he comes from the college game. 1675 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 1: Does he see something in Haskins with a college type 1676 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,479 Speaker 1: offense that he doesn't have with Ben? Like that's there 1677 01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,000 Speaker 1: are all these little different factors that I'm not saying 1678 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,720 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins is going to be the starter. I'm not 1679 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 1: saying that. But I could very easily see Ben not 1680 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,960 Speaker 1: being a quarterback on their roster. I could see the end, right, 1681 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,679 Speaker 1: I could see that too. The guy's thirty nine, of course, 1682 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's back. They were eleven 1683 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 1: and o last year, right, and then they fell off 1684 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,679 Speaker 1: a cliff, and he was one of the main reasons 1685 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:55,280 Speaker 1: why I think their offensive lines more. Yes, else, I 1686 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,680 Speaker 1: both say it starts up front and that and they 1687 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 1: lost it up front. They lost it. They lost a 1688 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:03,920 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, And I don't know how you put 1689 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 1: all these pieces back together. With their cap situation, I mean, yeah, 1690 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,120 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden wants to play for five million instead of fifteen, 1691 01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,760 Speaker 1: that's great, But that's like throwing a deck chair off 1692 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,719 Speaker 1: the Titanic. I mean, you're not. I don't know how. Again, 1693 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,040 Speaker 1: this is another team that could look like a scorched 1694 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,160 Speaker 1: Earth roster. I'll say this, five star players and a 1695 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,120 Speaker 1: bunch of minimum salary guys. If you could save twenty 1696 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 1: million dollars on the cap with Ben and ten million, 1697 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,040 Speaker 1: he's not there, then with Joe Hayden, well you could 1698 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 1: restruct yea and ten million. That's thirty of the forty 1699 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,960 Speaker 1: one million they're over the cap. You're still not even 1700 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,360 Speaker 1: at the at the at the water level. You're not 1701 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,320 Speaker 1: even at sea level yet. Guys. It's such a mess. 1702 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,639 Speaker 1: WHOA all right, break time for us because we're way 1703 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,400 Speaker 1: over back in a moment. Here on One Bills Live 1704 01:31:51,400 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, it's Buffalo Bill's Radio. I'll go 1705 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,719 Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live first round. Steve Jasker. Steve, 1706 01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 1: still having my trouble wrapping my head around the contract 1707 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:17,320 Speaker 1: decision making of the Philadelphia Eagles and all of those contracts. 1708 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 1: I mean, you kept going down the list. I'm like, 1709 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,800 Speaker 1: they did it again. Oh my god, they did it again. 1710 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, same position, did it again. And I'm 1711 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:31,880 Speaker 1: telling you right now, this restrictive cap has accelerated these decisions. Now, 1712 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,080 Speaker 1: these decisions, as I've said, these decisions wouldn't look nearly 1713 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,880 Speaker 1: as bad in a regular cap here, but in a 1714 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,320 Speaker 1: restrictive cap here, because this is only the second time 1715 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,519 Speaker 1: ever the salary cap has gone down. Once was due 1716 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,200 Speaker 1: to a lockout, now it's due to a pandemic. But 1717 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 1: the chickens have come home to roost for a bunch 1718 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,759 Speaker 1: of these teams, and I don't see how you recover 1719 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:57,200 Speaker 1: unless you go to a scorched earth plan and just 1720 01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,720 Speaker 1: say we're gonna pay five superstars and everybody else is 1721 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,760 Speaker 1: going to be minimum salary. I don't know how you 1722 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,680 Speaker 1: do it. When you're in the precarious position of the 1723 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 1: Saints and the Eagles. Derek Barnett. Yeah, if you're the Eagles, 1724 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:13,559 Speaker 1: if you're gonna cut just the guys who can save 1725 01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,760 Speaker 1: you cap money, I mean a significant amount of cap money. 1726 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,559 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you're talking about. The first guy that's 1727 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,360 Speaker 1: really a savings is Derek Barnett defensive end. He saves 1728 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 1: you ten million bucks. Everybody else if you cut him, 1729 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: they cost you more than their salary. That's insane, except like, yeah, 1730 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,400 Speaker 1: Isaac Sayumalu, he saves you five hundred grand on a 1731 01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,600 Speaker 1: five point four million dollar cap hit. But you're not 1732 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,639 Speaker 1: that's not doing it. That's not gonna get you there. 1733 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,160 Speaker 1: You need for everybody thirty of those guys. For instance, 1734 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:52,400 Speaker 1: here's that Malik Jackson defensive tackle. He's a four point 1735 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 1: six million dollar cap hit if you if he's playing 1736 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 1: for you, if you cut him, it's twelve six against 1737 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,760 Speaker 1: your cap. Holy crow. And they've got they've got like 1738 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,559 Speaker 1: twelve guys like that, twelve guys, thirteen guys like that. 1739 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,879 Speaker 1: Good Lord. The list goes on and on. Andre Dillard 1740 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,599 Speaker 1: three point three this year, if your draft choice from 1741 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 1: three years ago, if you cut it, if you keep 1742 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,640 Speaker 1: him this year, he's three point three. If you cut him, 1743 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 1: he's seven point three. Yeah that I mean, it's Jalen 1744 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,920 Speaker 1: Rieger wide receiver, three million dollars if you if you 1745 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,559 Speaker 1: cut him, he's ten point eight against your cap. They 1746 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 1: can't cut any of these guys. Their host they are 1747 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,639 Speaker 1: How are they going to have a fifty three man roster? 1748 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 1: And I know only the top fifty one salaries count. 1749 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how they're getting there. I don't either. 1750 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea. You know what their cap is right? 1751 01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,439 Speaker 1: Active roster is right now? How many million on its 1752 01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million. Let's say it's two hundred 1753 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 1: and twenty three million, eight hundred thousand. Right now, that's 1754 01:34:53,840 --> 01:35:00,719 Speaker 1: where that is without oh my god, well another thirty 1755 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,800 Speaker 1: four then that's without wins. Fifty four million over now 1756 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,960 Speaker 1: wins would be would be tagged into that. No, that's 1757 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,720 Speaker 1: just no. Yeah, they didn't adjust it yet. I don't 1758 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: know if they probably did adjust it. They probably did 1759 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 1: it either way. They're host the two. There's forty million 1760 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:21,680 Speaker 1: dollar host. Just wow. All right, we're up against the 1761 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,160 Speaker 1: break here, so we will step aside. But when we 1762 01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 1: come back, we will get back to some of this 1763 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,120 Speaker 1: discussion on the scorched earth scenario that will be very 1764 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,519 Speaker 1: real for several teams in the league. And we got 1765 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,639 Speaker 1: to get to our position breakdown of the linebacker position. 1766 01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 1: It's our Twitter poll. Check it out at one bills Live. 1767 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,439 Speaker 1: Way in with the choices we have there for you, 1768 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,519 Speaker 1: or give us a call open lines for you at 1769 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,360 Speaker 1: eight three five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two 1770 01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,040 Speaker 1: five fifty Chris Brown, Steve task or back for hour 1771 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 1: number three here on one Bills Live, presented by Collid 1772 01:35:51,880 --> 01:36:06,600 Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radiolo Hills Radio Network Sports 1773 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,000 Speaker 1: Date your sports update from one Bill's drive. The Eagles 1774 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,479 Speaker 1: have officially moved on from Carson Wentz. Multiple reports have 1775 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,719 Speaker 1: said the Eagles have now traded Wentz to the Colts 1776 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,519 Speaker 1: in exchange for a conditional twenty twenty one third round 1777 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,400 Speaker 1: pick and a conditional second round pick in twenty twenty two. 1778 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 1: The conditional second round pick could become a first round 1779 01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:28,040 Speaker 1: draft choice next year if Wentz plays seventy five percent 1780 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 1: of the snaps this coming season, or if he plays 1781 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,840 Speaker 1: seventy percent of the snaps for the Colts and Indianapolis 1782 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 1: makes the playoffs. Philadelphia now incurs a league record dead 1783 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:43,280 Speaker 1: cap hit of thirty four million dollars. The NFL salary 1784 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,320 Speaker 1: cap in twenty twenty one has a new floor. In 1785 01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,600 Speaker 1: a memo to teams, the NFL End Players Association have 1786 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,760 Speaker 1: approved a salary cap floor increase from one hundred and 1787 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,800 Speaker 1: seventy five to one hundred eighty million dollars. With the 1788 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic breaking havoc, the expectation has been that 1789 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,400 Speaker 1: the salary cap would fall significantly from the original projection 1790 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 1: of two hundred ten to two hundred and fifteen million. 1791 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,639 Speaker 1: The cap last year was one hundred ninety eight point 1792 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,880 Speaker 1: two until the official cap is said. However, teams won't 1793 01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,120 Speaker 1: know exactly how much room they'll have to maneuver through 1794 01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,400 Speaker 1: free agency in twenty twenty one. At the very least, 1795 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,160 Speaker 1: the new FOD gives clubs a starting point to begin 1796 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,519 Speaker 1: making plans ahead of the new league year, which opens 1797 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 1: on Saint Patrick's Day. That could be good news for 1798 01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,880 Speaker 1: teams in the market for a prized free agent. This 1799 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:33,799 Speaker 1: includes JJ Watt, as the sweep stakes for his services continue. 1800 01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 1: According to ESPN's Kimberley Martin, Buffalo is among several teams 1801 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,840 Speaker 1: who have inquired about the free agent pass rusher. Here 1802 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,920 Speaker 1: appears to be interest between both the Bills and Watt's camp, 1803 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,960 Speaker 1: As described by Martin, she called it quote definitely mutual. 1804 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,439 Speaker 1: Because of his early release, Watt is currently a free 1805 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,320 Speaker 1: agent and consigned with any team at any time. Baseball 1806 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,960 Speaker 1: News Fernando Tatis Junior, the emerging face of baseball, agreed 1807 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,599 Speaker 1: to a fourteen year, three hundred and forty million dollars 1808 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 1: contract extension with the San Diego Padres on Wednesday, securing 1809 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,400 Speaker 1: one of the largest guarantees in American sports history and 1810 01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,519 Speaker 1: tying himself to the Padres, which he quickly established as 1811 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,200 Speaker 1: a star in just his twenty two year old season. 1812 01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:22,040 Speaker 1: It's the third biggest deal in baseball history. Unbelievable. The 1813 01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:26,080 Speaker 1: money is crazy in baseball. It's crazy in football, but 1814 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:31,240 Speaker 1: it's really crazy in baseball. And it's all guaranteed. Oh yeah, 1815 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:33,639 Speaker 1: if you can get him to sign a contract, you can. 1816 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,760 Speaker 1: You can check out fourteen years. Man, that is a 1817 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:39,880 Speaker 1: long one. I mean, I know he's only twenty two, 1818 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,799 Speaker 1: but man alive, so he can. So he can retire 1819 01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 1: at thirty six with how much money? Three hundred and 1820 01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:52,800 Speaker 1: forty million dollars. Forty million dollars. God, man, that's that's 1821 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,599 Speaker 1: like winning the lottery more s. I mean, Mahomes got 1822 01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,040 Speaker 1: half a billion, so this is ten. Yeah. So and 1823 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,080 Speaker 1: he's doing it in less him. I think what was 1824 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,519 Speaker 1: he his twelve years? It was twelve fourteen years? You said, 1825 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,080 Speaker 1: oh no, Nomes, it doesn't kick in for another two 1826 01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, okay it We'll just keep coming here 1827 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,479 Speaker 1: for our daily grives. We've said that I've been around 1828 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot of old ball players in the eight They 1829 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,120 Speaker 1: always they always come across as a little bit bitter. 1830 01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, all these guys may listen bless their heart. 1831 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,240 Speaker 1: But you can make what you can make. I don't care. 1832 01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,680 Speaker 1: That's what they think you're worth. YEA love I love it. 1833 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't have any animosity towards any of the young 1834 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,320 Speaker 1: guys in the league or any other sports like making 1835 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,759 Speaker 1: what the what the market? Beard? Do it? Man? Who 1836 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,519 Speaker 1: take the money? I just all about it, And I 1837 01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,320 Speaker 1: know there are tons of people suffering, and but that 1838 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 1: doesn't you know, that's that has nothing to do with 1839 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,479 Speaker 1: these guys. It has nothing to do with it. It's 1840 01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 1: just I just think the numbers are just it's stagger 1841 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 1: You can't I don't think anybody can really wrap their 1842 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 1: head around what three hundred and forty million dollars really is. 1843 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:04,160 Speaker 1: Like you know, a million is a lot, Yes, like 1844 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:11,519 Speaker 1: a lot of money, Yes times three forty like huh. 1845 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 1: I can't even wrap my head around it. So if 1846 01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 1: you had a yeah, yeah, But I'm in a business 1847 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,280 Speaker 1: where I'm reporting contracts like this all the time, anything 1848 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,040 Speaker 1: about retirement and all that. So if you got a 1849 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,320 Speaker 1: million bucks up and they say, okay, count on like 1850 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,640 Speaker 1: a seven percent return if you got to invest in 1851 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So you're teas in California until those 1852 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 1: taxes are going to pinch him good. You're talking about 1853 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 1: it's seventy grand just for have it sit there, and 1854 01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,720 Speaker 1: you skim seventy grand off of it every you go 1855 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:38,479 Speaker 1: on forever. Yeah, seventy grand a year, just you know, 1856 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,320 Speaker 1: for nothing. Yeah, if it's if you get that and 1857 01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:46,120 Speaker 1: so times that three hundred and forty million dollars, three 1858 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,000 Speaker 1: hundred and forty times of you know, the math even 1859 01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:54,840 Speaker 1: that becomes like what like what it's unbelievable. Yeah. Um. 1860 01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,840 Speaker 1: Our good friend Mike Jennity, who runs spot track, which 1861 01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,320 Speaker 1: is a great salary sight, he had a tweet and 1862 01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 1: I want to find it now because he was talking 1863 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:11,760 Speaker 1: about the Tatis contract because he's got a buddy who 1864 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:16,360 Speaker 1: actually does the tax implications for all of these athletes 1865 01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:24,960 Speaker 1: sports tax man. They project to cash one hundred and 1866 01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:28,880 Speaker 1: sixty nine million of his new three hundred forty million 1867 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 1: dollar contracts. So they're talking about Fernando Tattis, his new 1868 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:39,639 Speaker 1: contract the Padres player after federal, state income and jock taxes, Okay, 1869 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty nine million of it, so he 1870 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 1: pays yeah, that's or he walks away with. Yeah, Fernando 1871 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,280 Speaker 1: Tattis Junior projects to cash in about one hundred and 1872 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,240 Speaker 1: sixty nine three hundred and forty. So the rest of 1873 01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,040 Speaker 1: it he ain't going to see. That's going to the taxman. 1874 01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 1: So it's one hundred and seventy million dollars. Yeah, that's 1875 01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,800 Speaker 1: what he takes home after fourteen years. He pays one 1876 01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy. Well, it's three forty. He's bringing home 1877 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,479 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty nine, right, so it's like one 1878 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,880 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy minus. It's one hundred and seventy million 1879 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,479 Speaker 1: dollars he's paying in tax half a little over half. Yeah, 1880 01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,320 Speaker 1: I think he'll still be okay. Then he'll still be okay. 1881 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,400 Speaker 1: So's the government. Yeah, they'll be in good shape too. 1882 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,160 Speaker 1: They'll be able to they'll be able to California, Man, 1883 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:27,800 Speaker 1: that's a rough state to have a deal like that, 1884 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 1: and they'll be Yeah, they'll be able to pay. He's 1885 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,880 Speaker 1: in Texas, he's in much better ship. You think Florida, 1886 01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,080 Speaker 1: you think you think they can keep their power from 1887 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,400 Speaker 1: going out in this winter storm out there? If with 1888 01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,639 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy millions, did you read up on that? 1889 01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,840 Speaker 1: A whole mess in Texas? I feel bad for those people. Yeah, 1890 01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,599 Speaker 1: I mean we in Buffalo, we kind of we kind 1891 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,559 Speaker 1: of shrug it off. It's kind of you kind of 1892 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 1: get what you pay for up here. I mean, I 1893 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,840 Speaker 1: don't mean to say it that way. Let's say you 1894 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,439 Speaker 1: know what you sign up for. I guess a better 1895 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:54,720 Speaker 1: way to say it. When you come up here and 1896 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,920 Speaker 1: you're living in Buffalo and we're built for it, right, 1897 01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, we get a foot of snow over the weekend, 1898 01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,760 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we'll be we'll move it, we'll be. Yeah, 1899 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:05,040 Speaker 1: we'll be at work on Monday on time. In Texas, 1900 01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,719 Speaker 1: they get three inches and it's catastrophic. Did you see 1901 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,439 Speaker 1: the videos of the trucks and the cars like three, 1902 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:17,439 Speaker 1: like dozens upon dozens of the icy road. Yeah, they're 1903 01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 1: like they have no idea what's going on, and they're 1904 01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:23,920 Speaker 1: just cracked full speed bang because they're still d oh, 1905 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,360 Speaker 1: I can't stop on ice. It's one car the other 1906 01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,519 Speaker 1: at seventy miles an hour, piling into the back of it, 1907 01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:34,519 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, it's catastrophic, and they just they 1908 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:40,040 Speaker 1: just don't. It's amazing. Only six people perished in that accident. Amazing, Yeah, 1909 01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:44,759 Speaker 1: six people perished in that in that accident because of 1910 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,519 Speaker 1: of it being a one time off occurrence because they 1911 01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,280 Speaker 1: just weren't ready for don't know, they just don't know. 1912 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,000 Speaker 1: We're we've been talking about the scorched earth scenario, Steve, 1913 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,719 Speaker 1: that could befall a number of teams in the league. 1914 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,719 Speaker 1: The releases are coming now more and more. And I think, 1915 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,240 Speaker 1: knowing what the cap floor is one eighty, which came 1916 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,439 Speaker 1: out in the NFL memo today, that's not the floor 1917 01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:09,280 Speaker 1: that that is the lowest roof that it will be. 1918 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:15,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, they're gonna yeah, so 1919 01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 1: that's why I called it a floor, because it's gonna 1920 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,400 Speaker 1: be at least one eighty. Could go higher, but at 1921 01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:25,479 Speaker 1: least one eighty. Um. But the Falcons have released cornerback 1922 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,760 Speaker 1: Ricardo Allen defensive end to Allen Bailey. That's going to 1923 01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 1: save them almost eleven million dollars in cap space. And 1924 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,559 Speaker 1: the Falcons are a team that, yeah, they're still gonna 1925 01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,640 Speaker 1: have Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and that crew, and you know, 1926 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,360 Speaker 1: maybe they take another swing at it, but they're very 1927 01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:45,000 Speaker 1: close to a rebuild as well. The conversations about is 1928 01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford our guy, you know? Or I mean Matt Ryan, 1929 01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,639 Speaker 1: our guy? You know what I mean, they're they're still 1930 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,760 Speaker 1: having they're having conversations about just like kind of like 1931 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,840 Speaker 1: been the Pittsburgh teachers in Ben Roethlisberger. They're they're about 1932 01:44:55,840 --> 01:45:00,599 Speaker 1: ready to turn the page with that guy. That's and 1933 01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 1: we had this right before we went off the break. 1934 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, with Carson Wentz being traded, you go back 1935 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,720 Speaker 1: to the two thousand and sixteen draft and some of 1936 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,000 Speaker 1: these guys you don't know about it. There's only one 1937 01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:18,639 Speaker 1: quarterback of the three six twelve fifteen quarterbacks were taken 1938 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:23,160 Speaker 1: in that draft fifteen, the last one being Brad Doty 1939 01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:28,120 Speaker 1: To taking two twenty three. Overall fifteen quarterbacks taken in 1940 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:31,800 Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen draft, there is one on 1941 01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:36,160 Speaker 1: the team that drafted him, Dak Prescott one. And that's 1942 01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 1: not a given. It's probable that he'll be back. But 1943 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:43,000 Speaker 1: as of now, yeah, today, which made it one from 1944 01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,600 Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen draft class is still with 1945 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 1: a team that draft him. That's with the Carson Wentz 1946 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:55,000 Speaker 1: trade today, it's life comes at your fast, Brownie. It's unbelievable. 1947 01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,880 Speaker 1: Field Yate, It's just one up to you, he said. 1948 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,080 Speaker 1: With the trade of cars and wins, there will now 1949 01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,880 Speaker 1: not be a single quarterback drafted in the first round 1950 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,200 Speaker 1: from two thousand and nine to two thousand and sixteen 1951 01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 1: that is still with their original team zero of twenty two, Wow, 1952 01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,439 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine to twenty sixteen. So two thousand 1953 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:22,519 Speaker 1: and nine obviously include Stafford right, um, but man alive. 1954 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,280 Speaker 1: That's still that's a long way. That's a big swath. 1955 01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:31,360 Speaker 1: It's a thirteen year career too, So yeah, I could 1956 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 1: see twelve thirty fifteen. I mean, that's eight years of 1957 01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,280 Speaker 1: drafting quarterbacks. Nobody from the two thousand and thirteen like 1958 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,960 Speaker 1: seven or eight years right in their prime. EJ. Manual Right, 1959 01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:48,360 Speaker 1: think about that. That's that's a stretch of bad quarterbacks. Now, 1960 01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:52,360 Speaker 1: maybe not even bad quarterbacks, just bad camp management, bad decisions, 1961 01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:56,519 Speaker 1: bad coaching, bad team management. Zero of twenty two Steve, 1962 01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine to twenty sixteen. Nobody is on 1963 01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:05,080 Speaker 1: the same team first rounders. We're talking the first rounder quarterbacks. 1964 01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:06,720 Speaker 1: None of them are on the same team. That Wait 1965 01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 1: a second, is that right? Mitchell Trubisky is still on 1966 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:14,120 Speaker 1: the Bears. He was drafted in the first round, but 1967 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,400 Speaker 1: he was tracked after twenty sixteen. Though twenty seventeen. He 1968 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, he was. Yeah, you're right, you're right. 1969 01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,800 Speaker 1: Those guys are selling their rookie deals. Nobody is in 1970 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,840 Speaker 1: their second contract, third contract with their team that drafted him. 1971 01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,920 Speaker 1: That is heavy stuff, man. Yeah, it's it's a sad 1972 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,679 Speaker 1: state of affairs, and I can I think it shows 1973 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,160 Speaker 1: not a part of it. And with how much how 1974 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:39,040 Speaker 1: much teams miss on quarterbacks in round one, you know 1975 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,639 Speaker 1: that's not the only reason think about this. Here's where 1976 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,240 Speaker 1: here's where you're looking at. Let's look at the both 1977 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,600 Speaker 1: ends of the spectrum and how and we'll give you 1978 01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,200 Speaker 1: an idea of how hard is recent picture Josh Allen 1979 01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:56,400 Speaker 1: checks all the physical boxes, best arm, great athlete, great size, 1980 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,639 Speaker 1: but when he comes down to playing quarterback, he's kind 1981 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,640 Speaker 1: of an athlete, kind of a scatter shot, don't know. 1982 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:10,559 Speaker 1: All right, then you've got a guy like all let's 1983 01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 1: say what to a tongue of iloa. He doesn't check 1984 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,360 Speaker 1: any of the boxes physically, he's a he's a mid 1985 01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,439 Speaker 1: round pick physically, but he's got comes from a great, 1986 01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:25,720 Speaker 1: great program, one a national titles, got all the intangibles, 1987 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,760 Speaker 1: loads of that stuff, work ethic, works hard at it. 1988 01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,680 Speaker 1: But you see him you know how you miss It's 1989 01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:35,519 Speaker 1: easy to see why somebody would miss on Josh because 1990 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,280 Speaker 1: he just never developed. He couldn't you know, you can't 1991 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,680 Speaker 1: run the offense and read deefense. What all the all 1992 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:41,640 Speaker 1: the We've heard that a million times. I think it 1993 01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:46,560 Speaker 1: shows how coaching turnover and lack of player development in 1994 01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,920 Speaker 1: too many organizations in this league leads to what are 1995 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:56,920 Speaker 1: perceived misses in the draft right when an actuality it 1996 01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:01,639 Speaker 1: might speak more to instability organization. Oh for sure, there's 1997 01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:03,760 Speaker 1: a ton of that. You can't but it's hard to 1998 01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:05,559 Speaker 1: put your thumb on that because all you the only 1999 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,760 Speaker 1: way you can see that is on the field. And 2000 01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,200 Speaker 1: if you see it on the field, you blame the guy, 2001 01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,240 Speaker 1: not all the steps, the fifty thousand steps it took 2002 01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,080 Speaker 1: forget him to get that guy on the field. How 2003 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,880 Speaker 1: much does that say about Matthew Stafford? Listen, organization he 2004 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,720 Speaker 1: played for, and all of the coaching turnover he experienced, 2005 01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,639 Speaker 1: not only at the head coaching level, but the coordinator level, 2006 01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:31,080 Speaker 1: all the change that the team saw in terms of personnel, 2007 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:33,800 Speaker 1: and that guy was still playing his rear end off 2008 01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,720 Speaker 1: and productive. What does that say about Matthew Stafford? On 2009 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,439 Speaker 1: a Weyward franchise like the Lions. I have been a 2010 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,720 Speaker 1: Matthews world. I have been a Matthew Stafford fan for 2011 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 1: a long time. We heard Chris Mortenson said, hey, he's 2012 01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,599 Speaker 1: a special guy. Even now he's and I agree, totally agree. 2013 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:55,920 Speaker 1: Stafford's a stud on an NFL football field. He's mentally tough, 2014 01:49:56,040 --> 01:50:00,280 Speaker 1: physically tough, can throw arm talent. He's got armed talent 2015 01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,800 Speaker 1: even at this stage of his career. And you know, 2016 01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,479 Speaker 1: and it's easy now to say this because you know, 2017 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,559 Speaker 1: we can say whatever you want from a thousand miles 2018 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,960 Speaker 1: away or three hundred miles away from Detroit. Yeah, but 2019 01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about franchise stability. To hear that exact had it. 2020 01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,840 Speaker 1: Stafford is a guy that is one more guy on 2021 01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:23,639 Speaker 1: a list that was that is growing in Detroit. Barry Sanders, 2022 01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:27,439 Speaker 1: you know what, guys, thanks, I'm done. You led the 2023 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:32,719 Speaker 1: league in RUSSI tre done. He was so done. Can 2024 01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:40,439 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson Megatron, He's like, I'm done, I am so 2025 01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,679 Speaker 1: done with you. Right, And they're both going first ballot 2026 01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,560 Speaker 1: rubber stamp Hall of Famers, and they are just like, 2027 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:50,400 Speaker 1: you know what, I am done. Now. Matt Stafford's like 2028 01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,639 Speaker 1: I'd like to go somewhere else. You know what, I'm 2029 01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:55,160 Speaker 1: not really that good, am I? Why don't you get 2030 01:50:55,240 --> 01:51:01,080 Speaker 1: rid of me? Trade me? Please? He was the only 2031 01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:07,680 Speaker 1: example of stability in the entire organization. It's stunning, and 2032 01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,080 Speaker 1: he is. He's the dude, man, I know, but he's 2033 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:14,880 Speaker 1: like the Lions. The Lions are just one example. You know. 2034 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:16,800 Speaker 1: People say, well, why is the draft so hard? I 2035 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,680 Speaker 1: don't know if the draft is so hard as much 2036 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,280 Speaker 1: as it is to find stability with a coaching staff 2037 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,200 Speaker 1: and player development. Yeah, because it's a more elusive thing. 2038 01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:27,240 Speaker 1: You can get a guy to come in and play 2039 01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:31,160 Speaker 1: and do that. But here's the thing, and it's not 2040 01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:35,080 Speaker 1: that hard. It sounds simple, but it's really complex and 2041 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 1: it's not easy. Like Marv Levy, it's simple but not easy. 2042 01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,559 Speaker 1: The Bills said, listen, Okay, here's what's gonna happen. All right, 2043 01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:45,400 Speaker 1: if we get Sam darnl If Darnold falls to us, 2044 01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna we gotta plan let's do that. Here's what 2045 01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,519 Speaker 1: he is. We gotta do this. If if Mayfield falls 2046 01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,280 Speaker 1: to us, here's what we're gonna do. And this is 2047 01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,960 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do if Alan comes to us, here's 2048 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,800 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Here's what we're right. So the 2049 01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,040 Speaker 1: plan for all the quarterbacks of that act was different. 2050 01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,240 Speaker 1: So they bring these guys in. They bring in Brian Dable, 2051 01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:06,920 Speaker 1: They get him up to stuff, and they start slow 2052 01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,479 Speaker 1: and they say, let him earn his way onto the field, 2053 01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,519 Speaker 1: and then by default they throw him in there. And 2054 01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:14,479 Speaker 1: they probably made a decision, all right, guys, this is 2055 01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:15,960 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna have to hang in 2056 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:17,479 Speaker 1: there with this guy and try and make him as 2057 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:18,960 Speaker 1: good as we can be, give him some stuff that 2058 01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,519 Speaker 1: we can do, and let's just live with it. They 2059 01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:25,000 Speaker 1: go six and ten. They come back the next year, 2060 01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:28,439 Speaker 1: and he's a little better, right. They get him a 2061 01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,439 Speaker 1: little bit more to work with. They fix his offensive 2062 01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,439 Speaker 1: line first and foremost. They bring in a couple of 2063 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,800 Speaker 1: receivers of John Brown, they bring in a Coldbs, They 2064 01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,360 Speaker 1: give him some options, the running games a little bit 2065 01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:42,640 Speaker 1: better with Devin Singletary and Lashawn Okay, and you know, 2066 01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,040 Speaker 1: so they you know, it's a little better. And then 2067 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,320 Speaker 1: they finally get the team built around him while still 2068 01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 1: giving him enough to be successful. And it was like 2069 01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,360 Speaker 1: a three year process to get him to this because 2070 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,519 Speaker 1: he had a long way to go right right. The 2071 01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,280 Speaker 1: stability it took just to get him to this point 2072 01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:04,640 Speaker 1: is something you look around. The only teams that have 2073 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,320 Speaker 1: it are guys with franchise quarterback. Nobody else is that 2074 01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:10,439 Speaker 1: they're like by this time, Sean McDermott got kicked to 2075 01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:14,240 Speaker 1: the curb in Detroit after a six and ten season. 2076 01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,519 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's the way it is. If he 2077 01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,600 Speaker 1: doesn't come out last year and they don't go like 2078 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 1: get out of the gates and go four and one, 2079 01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:29,200 Speaker 1: five and one, he's gone, and the whole staff with him. Well, 2080 01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, think about EJ. Manuel and how his career 2081 01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:34,400 Speaker 1: went here, say what you want about him as a 2082 01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:37,439 Speaker 1: prospect or what have you. But the plan was not 2083 01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,960 Speaker 1: to start him as a rookie. But then Kevin Cobbs 2084 01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,200 Speaker 1: slips on a matter of training camp, gets a concussion 2085 01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:45,120 Speaker 1: the third preseason game, never suits up for the Bills, 2086 01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,360 Speaker 1: and EJ's got to go on the field. And he 2087 01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:50,519 Speaker 1: didn't do poorly as a rookie. But two years later, 2088 01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,360 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator changes, the head coach, coach changes. You 2089 01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:56,440 Speaker 1: got a new coach in here with a new coordinator, 2090 01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, and then there's another new coordinator after that, 2091 01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,599 Speaker 1: and to and he and he goes to the Raiders 2092 01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:02,880 Speaker 1: and then he's out of the league. Maybe it was 2093 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,920 Speaker 1: a different, different time. Maybe we didn't. Maybe it's just 2094 01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:07,559 Speaker 1: because we didn't want to hear it or didn't want 2095 01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:12,400 Speaker 1: to see it, or it didn't take. But Josh Allen, 2096 01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,760 Speaker 1: we saw films and he put in a ton of 2097 01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,679 Speaker 1: work in the off season on his game, his work, 2098 01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:22,040 Speaker 1: his footwork, his our motion, his throwing motion. And I 2099 01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,800 Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of other guys do that. 2100 01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:25,800 Speaker 1: They may do some stuff, but I don't think they 2101 01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:29,360 Speaker 1: do that. You know, I don't know that they work 2102 01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,240 Speaker 1: on what they're not good at, true, And I don't 2103 01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,200 Speaker 1: know that. Maybe EJ did. I know EJ was a 2104 01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,520 Speaker 1: hard worker and loved it a lot, but he got 2105 01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,720 Speaker 1: he had to get better and he didn't, you know 2106 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. Same thing with J totally on the organization. 2107 01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,120 Speaker 1: But I guess my point is when you don't, when 2108 01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:51,000 Speaker 1: you have that constant churn with coaches and and system, man, 2109 01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,480 Speaker 1: it's and just I don't know how you get stability 2110 01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 1: and expect your players to blossom either. It's just it's 2111 01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,600 Speaker 1: like a self fulfilling prophecy. Like, yeah, you can't get 2112 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,880 Speaker 1: STI at the coaching level, how do you expect to 2113 01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,960 Speaker 1: get stability or progress at the player level. I just 2114 01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,520 Speaker 1: don't see how you achieve it. And that was the 2115 01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:09,360 Speaker 1: hamster wheel if the Bills were on for the better 2116 01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 1: part of seventeen years. It also means too, and it's 2117 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:13,920 Speaker 1: one of the things that this coaching staff does, and 2118 01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,480 Speaker 1: I think it's part of the selling job that maybe 2119 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,080 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott made to the teams he interviewed with as 2120 01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:24,840 Speaker 1: a head coaching candidate. Your coaching staffs has two jobs, well, 2121 01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of jobs. One of which is get your team, 2122 01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,240 Speaker 1: put together game plans and implement them. The second thing 2123 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:34,520 Speaker 1: is work on the things that your players aren't good 2124 01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,160 Speaker 1: to get your young players to develop, make your players better, 2125 01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 1: get them to earn their way on the field, and 2126 01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,280 Speaker 1: reward them with playing time. When they do do certain things, 2127 01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,360 Speaker 1: you get them on the field, elevate them to the 2128 01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:49,400 Speaker 1: active roster for a game or to all a Duke Williams, 2129 01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,640 Speaker 1: you know you didn't see him too much, but man, 2130 01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,120 Speaker 1: oh man, they rewarded his hard work. Man you're active 2131 01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,840 Speaker 1: this week. Let's go give him a chance to get 2132 01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:02,360 Speaker 1: on the field. They do that a lot with offensive linemen, linebackers, 2133 01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, del Sean Phillips, Mike Love. You go down 2134 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,240 Speaker 1: the roster. You got these guys down the roster and 2135 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:10,880 Speaker 1: most fans are like, yeah, okay, I like him. I 2136 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,360 Speaker 1: see him and he gets out there once in a while. 2137 01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,760 Speaker 1: But that being out there on the field for the 2138 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:20,480 Speaker 1: young players is an enormous boost, and it's an enormous 2139 01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,040 Speaker 1: reward for you know. I mean, I spent a lot 2140 01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,840 Speaker 1: of time with a lot of guys and you're out 2141 01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:30,120 Speaker 1: there and you're grinding out Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. You're 2142 01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:32,400 Speaker 1: out there running scout team against the number one defense 2143 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,320 Speaker 1: or whatever, and you never see the light of day, 2144 01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,360 Speaker 1: and every once in a while and say, hey, you're 2145 01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:38,200 Speaker 1: playing good. You know what, we might activate you this week. 2146 01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,080 Speaker 1: Give you a chance to either cover some kicks or 2147 01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,800 Speaker 1: be ready for a package or go man oh man. 2148 01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,280 Speaker 1: That goes a long way towards motivating a guy to 2149 01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:50,600 Speaker 1: come back the next week and bust a gut in 2150 01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,720 Speaker 1: practice and get better. It's it works, and that's one 2151 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,640 Speaker 1: of the things this coaching staff has done better than 2152 01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,400 Speaker 1: any coaching staff I've ever been around. And you know, 2153 01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to indicate that lack of stability at 2154 01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:08,360 Speaker 1: the coaching level means that you can't have good players 2155 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 1: pan out on your roster. There are other reasons, as 2156 01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,240 Speaker 1: you just outlined. You need guys that are made up 2157 01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:17,480 Speaker 1: of the right DNA, that are willing to embrace the 2158 01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,280 Speaker 1: grind that it takes to be a successful NFL player. 2159 01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:23,000 Speaker 1: You need that also, and you have to find that 2160 01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:27,880 Speaker 1: in draft prospects. But I just this is really compellative 2161 01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,839 Speaker 1: stuff this offseason. I think it's only gonna get more compelling. 2162 01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:32,440 Speaker 1: This is going to be as unique and offseason as 2163 01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:36,240 Speaker 1: we have ever seen. It's an ultimate grind to be 2164 01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,720 Speaker 1: an NFL coach. The long hours, a lot of film study, 2165 01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:41,720 Speaker 1: a lot of meetings, a lot of conversations about what 2166 01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,480 Speaker 1: you think this guy can do as opposed to that guy, 2167 01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,120 Speaker 1: and how can we utilize It's a grind, and I 2168 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:51,880 Speaker 1: mean long hours year round for these guys, and it's 2169 01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:56,320 Speaker 1: the same for players. Although the hours aren't as long, 2170 01:57:56,440 --> 01:58:01,280 Speaker 1: the effort, physical effort is much greater. And we heard 2171 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:05,400 Speaker 1: Lonnie Tasker's teammate today, Lonnie Johnson comes on, It's something 2172 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,720 Speaker 1: you have to drive into a lot of young players 2173 01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:12,160 Speaker 1: because they're as a pro player, a pro prospect. Most 2174 01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,880 Speaker 1: of these guys at the NFL level were set aside 2175 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,560 Speaker 1: very early in life. He was faster, he was stronger, 2176 01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,960 Speaker 1: he was more skilled. His awareness about what's going on 2177 01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,040 Speaker 1: around him was put him at a higher level and 2178 01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,400 Speaker 1: made him do things that nobody else even were aware of. 2179 01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:30,320 Speaker 1: You get set aside, and you get advanced, you get 2180 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:34,760 Speaker 1: higher level coaching and competition, you get better and all 2181 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:38,480 Speaker 1: that stuff. So that all happens because they have success early. 2182 01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:44,440 Speaker 1: And they have success early because whatever genetics, luck their 2183 01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,160 Speaker 1: birth date, maybe they're eight months older than a guy 2184 01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:49,880 Speaker 1: when they're eight years old, and that difference is a 2185 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:54,880 Speaker 1: little bit more whatever, it could be that simple, so 2186 01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:56,760 Speaker 1: that guy gets to the high school level. Like we 2187 01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,520 Speaker 1: were talking to Lonnie Johnson today and you know, you 2188 01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:03,879 Speaker 1: show up, it's hard to tell. He did say Gabriel 2189 01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,440 Speaker 1: Davis was the hardest working player he has ever seen, 2190 01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:10,240 Speaker 1: and Gabe Davis made it to the NFL because he's 2191 01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:14,800 Speaker 1: hard working. That's what I'm That's my point. The coaches 2192 01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:19,160 Speaker 1: work hard, and everybody thinks these young guys think coming up, 2193 01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm kind of set apart and I'm cool. 2194 01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:26,040 Speaker 1: The problem is even you get drafted, signed whatever, you're 2195 01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:28,240 Speaker 1: all all those guys are set apart two. That just 2196 01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,200 Speaker 1: that's your ticket to the party. If you want to 2197 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,120 Speaker 1: if you want to dance at the party, you gotta 2198 01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:36,040 Speaker 1: you gotta work right, you gotta bust a sweat. And 2199 01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:38,080 Speaker 1: that's that's the difference in all these things. And that's 2200 01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:41,800 Speaker 1: why you got guys that do develop who don't have 2201 01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:45,120 Speaker 1: the physical school skills, because they work at it. And 2202 01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:47,000 Speaker 1: then you got these guys in unit. We go down 2203 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,440 Speaker 1: the list of Buffalo bills in the past that showed 2204 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:56,400 Speaker 1: up and we're like, pig well, right, they got here 2205 01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,080 Speaker 1: and said I made it, and then took their foot 2206 01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:01,640 Speaker 1: off the gas. That's exactly right. And then they realized 2207 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,520 Speaker 1: everybody else is just as good as me. They took 2208 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:06,360 Speaker 1: their foot off the gas, and they got passed. The 2209 02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:09,360 Speaker 1: league passed him by. It's that and it happens fast, yeah, 2210 02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:11,960 Speaker 1: and left him on the shoulder of the road or 2211 02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,640 Speaker 1: at a rest stop somewhere. Yeah, and nobody's coming to 2212 02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,880 Speaker 1: pick him up. The note, there is no there is 2213 02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:23,440 Speaker 1: no second second car that's coming behind you right all right, 2214 02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:27,120 Speaker 1: break time for us. Fascinating discussion here today. I've enjoyed 2215 02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:30,120 Speaker 1: it thoroughly. Steve, you may have earned yourself a long 2216 02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:32,160 Speaker 1: weekend here. Well, we'll talk about it, maybe a tank 2217 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:36,760 Speaker 1: back in a moment with more here on One Bill's Live, 2218 02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:51,000 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome 2219 02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,440 Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown's the lasted final 2220 02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:56,160 Speaker 1: half hour of the show here on a Thursday, and 2221 02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,920 Speaker 1: we are just now getting to our Twitter poll and 2222 02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:01,120 Speaker 1: some of your comments on the tweet sheet, which is 2223 02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment 2224 02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:06,960 Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Twitter poll today. What 2225 02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,640 Speaker 1: will be a tougher decision for the Bills this offseason 2226 02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:15,480 Speaker 1: resigning Matt Milano, replacing Matt Milano, or a contract extension 2227 02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,200 Speaker 1: for Tremaine Edmunds. You want to weigh in on that first, Steve, 2228 02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:21,760 Speaker 1: before we get to the tweet sheet. I think I 2229 02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:25,600 Speaker 1: think it's be replacing him. I think that's the tougher decision. 2230 02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:27,880 Speaker 1: That's what you gotta do. I think you can even 2231 02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,760 Speaker 1: wait on Tremaine Edmunds to extend him. And I don't 2232 02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:33,960 Speaker 1: think I don't think it's smart to sign Matt Milano 2233 02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:37,600 Speaker 1: unless you yeah, unless he decides he'll take a discount 2234 02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,160 Speaker 1: of deal. I'm wondering if you interpreted the question differently 2235 02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:43,480 Speaker 1: than our fans, who are overwhelmingly saying more than fifty 2236 02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,920 Speaker 1: four percent of the vote saying resigning Matt Milano was 2237 02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:48,560 Speaker 1: a tougher decision. And I think the reason they're saying 2238 02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:52,440 Speaker 1: that is because they want Matt Milano back, but they 2239 02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:54,880 Speaker 1: know what resigning him will do to the rest of 2240 02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,920 Speaker 1: the roster, because you'll commit so much money to him 2241 02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:01,560 Speaker 1: upwards of ten to twelve million dollars season that they 2242 02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:05,000 Speaker 1: know it'll cripple the rest of the roster and it 2243 02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:08,080 Speaker 1: could potentially put the bills very quickly into a situation 2244 02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:11,000 Speaker 1: that a lot of these other teams are experiencing. They're 2245 02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're paying top dollar for half a dozen guys, 2246 02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:17,720 Speaker 1: and then you're going to have to cut elsewhere and 2247 02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:22,880 Speaker 1: be bargain basement players to fill out the rest of 2248 02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:25,240 Speaker 1: your roster, and that might not be the best course 2249 02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:29,360 Speaker 1: of action. But let's see what some of you had 2250 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:33,480 Speaker 1: to say in the comments on the tweet sheet. Alan says, 2251 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:38,120 Speaker 1: tougher decision is Edmonds. He keeps getting better and better 2252 02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:40,560 Speaker 1: each season. He's the keystone and leader to the defense. 2253 02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:43,480 Speaker 1: Mulana will be hard to replace, but there's nobody close 2254 02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:48,240 Speaker 1: to replacing Edmonds, which is an opinion that's somewhat in 2255 02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,560 Speaker 1: the minority, because we get a lot of people calling 2256 02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:53,880 Speaker 1: about Edmonds saying, hey, why isn't he doing more this, 2257 02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,640 Speaker 1: that and the other. And I understand fans can be 2258 02:02:56,720 --> 02:03:01,000 Speaker 1: fickle sometimes. Went to the Pro Bowl again this year, though, 2259 02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,600 Speaker 1: so he's doing something right. And in the eyes of 2260 02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, his league colleagues, they think he's a player. 2261 02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a squeaky wheel syndrome. I think most 2262 02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:13,760 Speaker 1: you know people just you know, they want a guy 2263 02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:17,240 Speaker 1: that you know, makes more flashy plays than Edmonds has 2264 02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:21,680 Speaker 1: been able to make. And I think the guys that 2265 02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:24,560 Speaker 1: play against him and coach against him think he's really good. 2266 02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:26,960 Speaker 1: And I think most Bills fans recognize him as such too. 2267 02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:28,880 Speaker 1: And and you talk to the guys in the locker 2268 02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,840 Speaker 1: room and all the players and coaches that you know, 2269 02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:37,080 Speaker 1: the guy brings boatloads of leadership and knowledge and and 2270 02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:42,480 Speaker 1: savvy to the defense. He makes the calls. The conundrum here, 2271 02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Steve is you've got two first round picks from the 2272 02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:49,480 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft class whose contracts are moving on a 2273 02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:55,480 Speaker 1: concurrent path or a parallel What parallel path? Concurren's not right, 2274 02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:58,240 Speaker 1: that's when sentences follow one after the other. What's the 2275 02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:00,760 Speaker 1: word concurrence at the same time, that's right, it is, Yes, 2276 02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:03,440 Speaker 1: you're right. I'm gonna have to brush up with my 2277 02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,240 Speaker 1: English teachers trust over in her grave right now. And 2278 02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:11,200 Speaker 1: so you want to keep both of them as keystone 2279 02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:14,960 Speaker 1: pieces of your team. But this restrictive cap this year 2280 02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:17,960 Speaker 1: could kind of get in the way of maybe what 2281 02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,680 Speaker 1: your initial plans were, and you're probably gonna have to 2282 02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:23,520 Speaker 1: wait on at least one of them. I think terms 2283 02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:25,680 Speaker 1: of an extension, I'm talking about Josh Allen and Tremaine 2284 02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:28,600 Speaker 1: d Right. I think that their plan was probably to 2285 02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:31,520 Speaker 1: get one done this year. If in a normal cap year, 2286 02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:33,520 Speaker 1: get one done this year, the one done the next year, 2287 02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:35,200 Speaker 1: or the one done next year, the one done the 2288 02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:40,440 Speaker 1: year after whatever. I think there's no question they didn't 2289 02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:42,480 Speaker 1: think they were going to be chopped by forty million 2290 02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:46,080 Speaker 1: dollars or thirty five million dollars in the cap makes 2291 02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:49,000 Speaker 1: it tricky, to say the least, you may not even 2292 02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:50,320 Speaker 1: be able to get one of them done we'll have 2293 02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:52,760 Speaker 1: to see. I mean, Brandon Bean did say there's a 2294 02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:54,880 Speaker 1: way to do a Josh Allen extension. They would have 2295 02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:58,160 Speaker 1: to be creative in this restrictive cap here, but I 2296 02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:00,320 Speaker 1: think it would certainly take you out of the equation 2297 02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:02,880 Speaker 1: of doing it for Edmonds. So then it begs the question, 2298 02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:05,080 Speaker 1: do you do a fifty year option on Edmonds to 2299 02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:07,400 Speaker 1: buy you the extra year that you need. I would say, yes, 2300 02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,040 Speaker 1: that's probably what you do do. Yeah, they're gonna take 2301 02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:13,520 Speaker 1: both options on Edmonds and Alan. I mean, well, yeah, 2302 02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:15,960 Speaker 1: if you don't extend out. Yes, they're gonna extend both 2303 02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,680 Speaker 1: those guys, and they're gonna sign both of them at 2304 02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:22,000 Speaker 1: least at this point in history. And unless yeah whatever. Yeah, 2305 02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:24,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any hurry to do it, 2306 02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:28,120 Speaker 1: because once you get into the ballpark, it's all about 2307 02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the structure of the deal and what the player wants, 2308 02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:33,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think you can predict that. So and 2309 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the timeline has anything to do. And 2310 02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,840 Speaker 1: maybe sometimes you know, you can you get to a 2311 02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,120 Speaker 1: point like Dak Prescott, he turned his nose up at 2312 02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:43,520 Speaker 1: a deal that the Cowboys offered. Yeah, you don't want 2313 02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to get to that point right, Tiffany on the tweet 2314 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:49,080 Speaker 1: sheet says, it certainly feels like Milano is not coming 2315 02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:51,960 Speaker 1: back after Brandon Bean's end of season press conference. Finding 2316 02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,320 Speaker 1: his replacement will be a tough challenge. He has a 2317 02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:57,360 Speaker 1: unique skill set that is not easily replaceable. Most likely 2318 02:05:57,400 --> 02:05:59,240 Speaker 1: it will be a rookie with Tremaine leading the lining 2319 02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:02,840 Speaker 1: linebacker him. I don't know if it's supremely difficult to 2320 02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:07,360 Speaker 1: replace Milano. I think it's the question here. I think 2321 02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:11,640 Speaker 1: it's less a question of replacing the athleticism because there 2322 02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:13,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of atonic linebackers that come through the 2323 02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:19,400 Speaker 1: draft every single year. The instincts exactly, he took the 2324 02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,600 Speaker 1: words right out of my mouth, Steve, Right, Can they 2325 02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:25,280 Speaker 1: do they have the same instincts that Milano has. That's 2326 02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:28,960 Speaker 1: the hardest part of a player. I mean, he knows 2327 02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:32,000 Speaker 1: he just plays. He just plays. It seems like he 2328 02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:35,320 Speaker 1: plays fast and that he's always around the football. Um, 2329 02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:40,320 Speaker 1: the guy just is a is a great instinctive player. 2330 02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:44,680 Speaker 1: He always knows where to be and he has made 2331 02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:47,560 Speaker 1: a ton of plays as a result his athleticism. There 2332 02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:51,400 Speaker 1: may be there may be at his height and weight 2333 02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:55,880 Speaker 1: or bigger, and there may be eight or ten guys 2334 02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:59,560 Speaker 1: that are like like that in this year's draft class alone, right, 2335 02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:01,440 Speaker 1: that's when I mean, and this year's draft class alone. 2336 02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:05,280 Speaker 1: But they may not be as good as him because 2337 02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,080 Speaker 1: they don't have that instinct, you know, they don't have 2338 02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:11,560 Speaker 1: the football IQ what call it, what you want? That's 2339 02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:14,959 Speaker 1: as big a part of his game as anything. His versatile, 2340 02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:18,720 Speaker 1: his skill set is awesome. He drops into coverage, he 2341 02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:22,080 Speaker 1: rushes the pass, or he stops the run. I mean, 2342 02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:26,760 Speaker 1: he he's man on man coverage. The guy does everything. 2343 02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:31,280 Speaker 1: He blitzes. It's yeah, so you got to that's the 2344 02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:34,000 Speaker 1: hard part the athlete. And everybody says, well, and he 2345 02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,160 Speaker 1: is fast, but they'll I'm telling you, there'll be a 2346 02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:39,120 Speaker 1: bunch of guys just as fast in this draft. So 2347 02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I think when you're trying to replace him, you think, okay, 2348 02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,640 Speaker 1: we can do it athletically, but man, oh man, the 2349 02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:49,360 Speaker 1: production has just been there consistently, and that's all about 2350 02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:52,560 Speaker 1: his instincts. Nick t on the tweet sheet says, since 2351 02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:54,960 Speaker 1: the chances of resigning Milano are low, I think the 2352 02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,320 Speaker 1: toughest job will be replacing him. It's not like we 2353 02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,800 Speaker 1: only need to find just any good linebacker. We need 2354 02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:03,200 Speaker 1: to find some really athletic guy who was also good 2355 02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:06,800 Speaker 1: in pass coverage. We struggled in coverage without Milana this year, 2356 02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:09,560 Speaker 1: there is no question about that. But I think his 2357 02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:12,680 Speaker 1: replacement comes via the draft. They try to find an 2358 02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:15,720 Speaker 1: athletic linebacker who can cover. That's what you're looking for 2359 02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:18,960 Speaker 1: this this day and age in the NFL. Linebackers who 2360 02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:22,320 Speaker 1: can cover, you know, line up against tight ends, line 2361 02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:26,040 Speaker 1: up against backs, and handle that and play all three downs. 2362 02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:31,640 Speaker 1: But you know it's he's right. The team struggled in 2363 02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:34,960 Speaker 1: coverage without him. Now, in all fairness, they were without 2364 02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Milano and Edmonds early in the season when they were 2365 02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:41,480 Speaker 1: struggling in coverage, they were without both guys, right, and 2366 02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:49,120 Speaker 1: in this too, When when when Milana was When? Yeah? 2367 02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:51,960 Speaker 1: When Milana was replaced by A. J. Klein? And I've 2368 02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,240 Speaker 1: said this a ton during the season and in the offseason, 2369 02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff struggle with just how to 2370 02:08:56,720 --> 02:09:00,080 Speaker 1: cover that up. Um aj Klein could not play the 2371 02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,360 Speaker 1: way Matt Milano played, so they had to come up 2372 02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:06,200 Speaker 1: with coverages and schemes that gave aj Klein a chance 2373 02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:08,560 Speaker 1: to do something different than they wanted Matt Milano to do. 2374 02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:11,080 Speaker 1: And that that has a ripple effect not only on 2375 02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:13,000 Speaker 1: the field, but also in the coaching staff when they're 2376 02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:15,280 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, what can we have this guy 2377 02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:17,160 Speaker 1: do to cover up from Alan. We want to do this, 2378 02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:20,000 Speaker 1: but we really can't. So it took him a while 2379 02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:22,880 Speaker 1: to figure out the best way to use aj Klein 2380 02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:25,200 Speaker 1: in that defense, and we saw him pick his play 2381 02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:28,840 Speaker 1: up as well. Aj Klein got better in the month 2382 02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:36,040 Speaker 1: and a half that Milano was out. Aj Klein got better, better, better, better, better, better, better, 2383 02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:39,520 Speaker 1: until finally and then in that one game where they 2384 02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,520 Speaker 1: played in the in the playoff game against Baltimore, they 2385 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:42,760 Speaker 1: were both on the field at the same time with 2386 02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Edmunds against that running game of the Baltimore Ravens. So 2387 02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:50,160 Speaker 1: that was it took him a while. So replacing Milano 2388 02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:53,160 Speaker 1: may not be as simple as replacing them with a guy. 2389 02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:55,480 Speaker 1: It may be having to change their philosophy a little 2390 02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,240 Speaker 1: bit because they don't have a guy like that. There's 2391 02:09:57,240 --> 02:09:59,520 Speaker 1: a very good point from Eli on the tweet sheet 2392 02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:03,400 Speaker 1: being found Milano in the fifth round, he can replace him. 2393 02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about that. Edmond's extension. Bean will have 2394 02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:11,240 Speaker 1: to make a decision there and he will probably extend him. 2395 02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:14,440 Speaker 1: Can he sign JJ or von Miller or bring Khalil 2396 02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Mack to his rightful home in Buffalo via trade. I 2397 02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:22,200 Speaker 1: don't think trades are in the works because Brandon, being usually, 2398 02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:25,160 Speaker 1: isn't interested in giving up things unless he's getting something major, 2399 02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:27,600 Speaker 1: and Khalil Mack would be major. But I don't know 2400 02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:30,080 Speaker 1: if the cost works in terms of the salary that 2401 02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:34,520 Speaker 1: you would inherit in Khalil Mack. But stranger things have happened. 2402 02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I guess we would have to. I'd have to take 2403 02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:38,520 Speaker 1: closer look at that to see how feasible something like 2404 02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:42,240 Speaker 1: that would be. But he's right, if you if you 2405 02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:45,640 Speaker 1: found Milana in the fifth round, it's a sign that 2406 02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,560 Speaker 1: you should be able to find somebody comparable in the 2407 02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:51,200 Speaker 1: draft as well going forward, especially at that position as 2408 02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:53,400 Speaker 1: we've done. And I'll tell you this too, I don't 2409 02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:57,000 Speaker 1: even think that that would be a priority in going 2410 02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:59,920 Speaker 1: into this draft. I think it would be an offensive lineman, 2411 02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:03,120 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, pass rusher, second cornerback, and then maybe you 2412 02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:05,320 Speaker 1: start thinking, if you get those guys, all of those, 2413 02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:07,880 Speaker 1: then maybe think, okay, now we can might might think 2414 02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:10,560 Speaker 1: about a Milano guy, which is a fifth rounder. Yeah, 2415 02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:13,160 Speaker 1: they don't have a fourth round pick, so that's something 2416 02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:17,600 Speaker 1: to think about come day three. Yea, but yeah, he 2417 02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,720 Speaker 1: was a fifth rounder. We can't forget that. Back to 2418 02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:24,440 Speaker 1: wrap things up here on a Thursday, Steve Tasker Chris 2419 02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:26,640 Speaker 1: Brown with you will do that on the other side 2420 02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:28,640 Speaker 1: of this break Here on One Bill's Live, presented by 2421 02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:45,720 Speaker 1: Kalida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio time for what have 2422 02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,800 Speaker 1: we learned? For today's show brought to you by Skyworks, 2423 02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. 2424 02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:56,640 Speaker 1: We learned some teams are in some deep yogurt Steve, 2425 02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:01,600 Speaker 1: with their contract situations and their cap problems. Oh my lord, 2426 02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,320 Speaker 1: I think there's it's really gonna be a bloody offseason. 2427 02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:06,720 Speaker 1: I think there's really gonna be, like you say, some 2428 02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:08,760 Speaker 1: scorched earth teams out there, They're gonna have to do 2429 02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:13,120 Speaker 1: some unbelievably brutal things to their roster, financial gymnastics. And 2430 02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:16,000 Speaker 1: I think and think about this. If it was strictly 2431 02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,480 Speaker 1: a business thing, you just say, Okay, we're gonna have 2432 02:12:18,520 --> 02:12:20,360 Speaker 1: to do it. We gotta gotta do we gotta cut 2433 02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:22,320 Speaker 1: this guy, cut this guy, get this. But you think 2434 02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:26,640 Speaker 1: about a team like Philadelphia, their fans will burn their 2435 02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:30,320 Speaker 1: building down, right, Well, I guess that would fall in 2436 02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:33,600 Speaker 1: line with scorched earth then, wouldn't it. Right. I mean, 2437 02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:35,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some fan bases that that are like, 2438 02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:39,440 Speaker 1: you guys are what are you doing? Yeah? Um, well 2439 02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:43,760 Speaker 1: there should be some owners who are saying yeah. I mean, 2440 02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:46,840 Speaker 1: the restrictive cap is a big part of why these 2441 02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:49,040 Speaker 1: teams are gonna have to go to extreme lengths to 2442 02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:54,800 Speaker 1: get their financial houses in order. But even with the 2443 02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:58,960 Speaker 1: restrictive cap, due to the pandemic, these teams were on 2444 02:12:59,080 --> 02:13:02,160 Speaker 1: this path right to eventually get to this point. This, 2445 02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:05,600 Speaker 1: this restrictive cap has just accelerated it, and there's no 2446 02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:07,760 Speaker 1: way to cush in it and put it on steroids. Yeah, 2447 02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:09,640 Speaker 1: they couldn't do it one year. They couldn't like get 2448 02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:11,520 Speaker 1: out of it one year at a time by reworking 2449 02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:13,880 Speaker 1: a couple of deals or releasing one guy this year 2450 02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:18,480 Speaker 1: instead of having to cut chords with you know, thirteen guys, 2451 02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:21,240 Speaker 1: fifteen guys who you didn't think you were gonna have 2452 02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:24,160 Speaker 1: to say goodbye too. It's some teams are really in 2453 02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:27,080 Speaker 1: a pickle. Yeah, so it's gonna be It's not over, 2454 02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:29,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be very interesting. It's only begun. 2455 02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:31,800 Speaker 1: It's only begun. And as the closer we get to 2456 02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:35,200 Speaker 1: March seventeenth, the uglier it's gonna get. Well. Yeah, especially 2457 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,360 Speaker 1: with players that got roster bonuses due you know, the 2458 02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:40,480 Speaker 1: first week in March or what have you. You're gonna 2459 02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:43,240 Speaker 1: be a ton of reworkings and restructures, and then there's 2460 02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of just releases. Steve, I don't 2461 02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:46,920 Speaker 1: have any power over this, but you did such a 2462 02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:49,160 Speaker 1: great job. I'm gonna give you Friday off and Monday off. 2463 02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:53,720 Speaker 1: What do you say? Okay, Steve is out of the 2464 02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:56,320 Speaker 1: office Friday and Monday. Maddie Glab will be in here 2465 02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:59,839 Speaker 1: to fill in capably. So it's yours truly, and Maddie tomorrow, 2466 02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:02,600 Speaker 1: we will see you here on One Bill's Live, presented 2467 02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:04,920 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.