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Speaker 3: app my searching FSR. A Happy All Star Monday, and

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Speaker 3: things are already crazy as we are just starting the week.

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Speaker 4: We're doing great. They're on break. We're almost feeling like

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Speaker 4: we're on break. We're doing great.

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Speaker 3: They are on break because they're on All Star break, right,

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Speaker 3: But they were up early, relatively early in for Dan

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Speaker 3: Patrick today on The Dan Patrick Show, as the guys

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Speaker 3: were broadcasting live from the All Star Game festivities in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: So you've got Manci and myself hanging out for the

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Speaker 3: next two hours. We are going to talk to some

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Speaker 3: All Star Game. In fact, Monty and I are going

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Speaker 3: to debate something because guests who's on jury duty watch

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Speaker 3: this week? Manzi milanios, Yes, she is in today, but

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Speaker 3: will she be in tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We will find out. Jason Stewart is here. Our executive

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Speaker 3: producers Isaac Low and Crown is at the news desk.

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Speaker 1: Monty just say you hate criminals and everyone's guilty.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'll see what I do. I don't even

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Speaker 4: know if I'm gonna have to report you. I just

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Speaker 4: have to call later today.

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Speaker 3: All of us will give you our jury duty experience

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Speaker 3: and what can help. Ryan Smith is on the ones

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Speaker 3: and twos. Hello, Ryan, Hello, Just write your excuse and crayon.

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Speaker 3: They will not ask you back. I did not serve

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Speaker 3: on a jury, but I was drawn at one point

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Speaker 3: to as they were trying to pick the jury, and

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Speaker 3: sat through the whole process. It wasn't just like you

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Speaker 3: got to call in every day and not show up.

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Speaker 3: I had to show up. Not only did you show

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Speaker 3: up in the waiting room, they brought you into the courtroom.

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Speaker 4: For events like real stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yes, real stuff. So we'll give you some hints on

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Speaker 3: I don't think you should try to avoid it. I

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Speaker 3: think it is our civil duty.

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Speaker 4: I know it is, but it's so annoying. I understand,

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But it also means that you can maybe get some

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Speaker 3: that time. It's not all bad, But you're doing your

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Speaker 3: civic duty, just like we are in arguing over quarterback rankings.

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Speaker 3: Because that is the headline today ESPN, on a night

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Speaker 3: where home runs will be flying out of the ballpark

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta in advance of tomorrow's spotlight on the All Stars.

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Speaker 3: We're talking NFL quarterbacks today because ESPN started a series

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Speaker 3: ranking the quarterbacks, running backs, and players in the NFL

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Speaker 3: at their positions, and the series started today. This will

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Speaker 3: be going on over the next week or so where

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Speaker 3: they get information from scouts, from coaches, from executives and

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Speaker 3: end up ranking the quarterbacks in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: What I thought was surprising, as chaos reigned supreme in

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Speaker 3: our pre show meeting, I took one thing for granted,

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Speaker 3: and I was completely I misjudged it. I felt that

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Speaker 3: the sense that I got ultimately was way off base.

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Speaker 3: I thought the true drama in all of this, and

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Speaker 3: I still think there is drama, is what happens below.

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Speaker 3: What is the current Mount Rushmore of active NFL quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: But when you look at them Mount Rushmore, there is

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Speaker 3: and Lincoln. I don't know if Lincoln's at the end.

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Speaker 3: Did you've done media and TV stuff. Sometimes when you

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Speaker 3: do an opening credits, it's better to be at the

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Speaker 3: end because then they'll say, and Monty Belanos as Cindy, No,

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Speaker 3: that would be and you remember it. Yes, and there

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Speaker 3: is monetary stuff with that. Jason Stewart's appeared sitcoms as well.

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Speaker 3: There is something to the order that you are in

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Speaker 3: but there is there's added value to that. You are

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Speaker 3: here's where I messed up in talking about sitcoms and everything.

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Speaker 3: I thought that first four I'm like, everybody pretty much

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Speaker 3: And I feel like I was mistaken because Manzi came

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Speaker 3: In all of this, there's discussions and when you start

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Speaker 3: you'll see Patrick Mahomes lowest ranking four, Lamar Jackson lowest

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Speaker 5: After number four, I mean, yeah, the drama for me

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Speaker 5: instantly when I saw this, I was like, oh, Patrick

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Speaker 5: Mahomes is still number one. He gets dethroned at Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: Year, and he's still number one. That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you had a vote, because Patrick Mahomes was

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Speaker 3: put forth in all of this, if you had a vote,

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Speaker 4: Is this based on just last year's performance?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it would obviously be between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's do a little mix then, okay, because

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Speaker 3: obviously Patrick Mahomes isn't but there's a reason that he's

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Speaker 5: Is because it looks like that's what this ranking is

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Speaker 3: I think it is an absolute sliding scale when you

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Speaker 3: end up reading the reasons why quarterbacks are thought to

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Speaker 3: say this, Patrick Mahomes is being criticized because of a deteriorated,

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Speaker 4: Fair.

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Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely unfair because I mean, and the

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Speaker 3: is so now we're going to discredit anybody who has

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Speaker 4: Wall makes a difference. That wall absolutely makes a difference.

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Speaker 4: Is it fair? That's maybe the question, but that is

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Speaker 5: Yes, we are seeing a different play from Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: I think it can be a I think it's can

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Speaker 3: be used as so when Patrick Mahomes lost the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl to the Buccaneers. They

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Speaker 3: didn't have any any tackles. But we can't play this

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Speaker 3: this for every every team in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Two is about to play behind one of the worst

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Speaker 3: going to give him any grace whatsoever?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, absolutely not. Gin Know Smith can't catch a break.

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Speaker 3: We know what Seattle has done with their offensive line

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Speaker 3: over the past decade plus. They have not invested in

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Speaker 3: it at all, and we're Gino Smith. And that may

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Speaker 3: be in part for Gino Smith. The point is we're

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Speaker 3: not doing this to the other quarterback c J. Stroud,

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Speaker 3: the Texans, for some reason, stunk last year. Is an

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Speaker 3: about how c J. Stroud took a step back from

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're not wrong that the grace is usually

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Speaker 5: given when they've already performed and done it, when they've

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Speaker 5: reached what Patrick Mahomes has reached, or even Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 5: you know, with his MVPs, with the ones you just mentioned,

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Speaker 5: they're not getting the grace, and maybe they should get

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Speaker 5: the grace for the reasons you mentioned, like the O

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Speaker 5: line that too is about to have for this year.

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Speaker 5: But they don't get the grace because they haven't done it.

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Speaker 5: It's like, what am I giving you grace for?

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Speaker 4: Is that fair?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: But that's the reality.

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Speaker 3: It's the world that they live in.

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Speaker 4: It is the world.

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Speaker 3: Get I get it. And if Patrick Mahomes had to

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Speaker 3: play behind the line that to a place in Miami

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Speaker 3: maybe isn't even close to what's going on. But I

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Speaker 3: do think Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback also is better

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Speaker 3: lot of ways. Starting to split hairs here, But it's

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Speaker 3: just that was one of the lines in there that

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Speaker 5: Line, I think with these top four, you're splitting hairs

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Speaker 4: You can make an.

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Speaker 5: Argument for yes, you know what I mean, for all

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Speaker 5: of them to shuffle around. And that's why I think

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Speaker 5: with Joe Burrow in his own line, Well.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing that I thought heading into this this

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Speaker 3: there's a big four, that there is a current Mount

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Speaker 3: Rushmore in the National Football League, not necessarily caring who

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Speaker 3: is the George Washington head of this quarterback and maybe

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Speaker 3: it's Mahomes because when you look at the the other

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Speaker 3: three that are there with and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: Mahomes is the one to be the first.

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Speaker 4: He's George Washington of these these right now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so there's there's some of those of those four,

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Speaker 2: of those four because Matthew Stafford ends up being put

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Speaker 2: top four, but Matthew Stafford did receive a few top

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of us would say that right

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Speaker 3: now when we look at the current class of quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League, that Matthew Stafford is number four.

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Speaker 3: And it's no disrespect to him. He's just in the

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Speaker 3: sunset of his career. There are injuries that are piling up.

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Speaker 3: But somebody did think that right now, maybe to your

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Speaker 3: point of what last year was that he was fourth

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Speaker 5: Football League and those people I feel that have ranked

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Speaker 5: him at four give him the grace for what he

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's delivered.

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Speaker 4: So it's like he gets that grace.

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Speaker 3: He gets a fast track.

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Speaker 5: It's like everyone including me, still holding on to what

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Speaker 5: Even looking at this lowest ranking, unranked if there are

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it because it was a long

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Speaker 1: that answered all questions about Justin Herbert individually in that game.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, Dan, that was something that was

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Speaker 5: There haven't been a lot of that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I got to yeah, what.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that the game where one of those the go

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Speaker 3: Ryan am, I am I right? Do you just try? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes, Dan,

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Speaker 3: The Chargers just needed to tackle Josh Jacobs on the

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts does not have the height, Jalen Hurts is

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Speaker 3: How about Jalen Hurts getting the football to the people

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Speaker 3: have is you look at Jalen Hurts in these rankings

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Speaker 3: Like this is likely the highest that he's ever going

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Speaker 3: to you have to take everything into account and not

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Speaker 4: Not wrong on your descript description of How Jalen hurts

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Speaker 5: OPINIONS i everyone thinks that the quarterback sneak is is

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Speaker 5: and The. Eagles AND i was for, it not you,

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Speaker 5: know banning that if you figure out how to stop

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Speaker 5: does not get. GRACE i don't know what he has to.

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Speaker 5: Do and just like he did thrown mahomes where it's, like,

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Speaker 5: okay mahomes can't go, down but this guy's nine when

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Speaker 5: you have seen his play get better over the, years you,

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Speaker 5: KNOW i think years AGO i may have said THAT

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Speaker 4: BORING a couple of years AGO i may have said

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Speaker 5: Mean their their offense has definitely spice things. Up AND

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Speaker 5: i don't know what he has to. Do AND i

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Speaker 3: Do, no not not if you're putting him ninth after

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Speaker 3: Bowl and again it's almost Like Takuon barkley is being

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Speaker 3: Over Jalen, Hurts Jared goff is. Eighth, YEAH I I

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Speaker 3: i'm Just i'm surprised again That Jared goff would be

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Speaker 3: on at the end of The rams. Tenure there's no

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Speaker 3: Ten they Said Jordan love and. C. J stroud were honorable.

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Speaker 3: How let's let's do this as we wrap up this.

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Speaker 3: Rankings all good? Questions, Yes Jo, Nicks Kyler, Murray Aaron,

436
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: Rodgers Dak, Prescott Brock purdy were others who were mentioned

437
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: in these? Rankings did we miss? Anymore How's Jason Ryan?

438
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 3: ISAAC i there's just a lot of questions in all of.

439
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: This but how Is Jared goff higher Than Jalen. Hurts

440
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: how Is Jalen hurts ever gonna get up from number?

441
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: NINE i don't know HE i have no idea what

442
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 4: he has to.

443
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: Do She's Monty. Belanos I'm Dan. Bayer did WE i

444
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 3: think we. Exhausted we squeezed the juice out of these quarterback. Rankings,

445
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: yeah it was. Fine, AGAIN i thought five to ten

446
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: was where like the real conversation was because Of hurts

447
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: and then to your point About mahomes and Then Lamar,

448
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: jackson AND i didn't even think we did a deep

449
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: dive On Josh. Allen he was THE mvp last.

450
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 4: YEAR i know we were content with. Him. Second, YEAH

451
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 4: i think that's what it.

452
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: Was i'm honestly fine with any of them in the top.

453
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: Four if you told me That lamar was four Or

454
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: lamar was one and not, Four i'd be, like all, right, Cool,

455
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah Josh allen, one, four all, Right i'm. Cool Joe,

456
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: burrow WHO i think is, Great AND i even, said

457
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: coming in from, COLLEGE i thought That Joe burrow just

458
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: because always stands in the, pocket looked Like Tom. BRADY

459
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 3: i just THINK i feel like he resembles him more

460
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 3: than anybody else. Does but if you were to Put

461
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 3: Joe burrow at, ONE i would be, like tell me,

462
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: more tell me. MORE i, yes. Yes and Then Patrick

463
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: mahomes Is Patrick, mahomes which it's tough to, argue but

464
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: to your, point, now how are you ever not going

465
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Speaker 3: to be one after?

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Speaker 6: That?

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Speaker 4: Exactly all?

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Speaker 3: Right She's Moncey. Blanio So I'm Dan. Byer the guys

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Speaker 3: are living it up In, Atlanta givino And, Rich danny

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Speaker 3: G spot all having a good. Time So monty AND

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Speaker 3: i are holding it down. Today coming up next On

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports radio Is Isaac Lowan, Crown Jason stewart And Ryan.

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Speaker 6: Smith Fox Sports radio had the best sports talk lineup

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Speaker 3: App, okay it may have been a day. Off, sorry

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00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: everything blends into one during the. Summertime. Manzi, yeah but

478
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: somebody threw a pitch this, weekend and somebody here At

479
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports radio is not very happy about. It welcome.

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00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: In we are in For cavina And. Rich we're not

481
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: the only ones. Here Isaac Lowin crown is at the

482
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: news desk giving us the. Latest Jason stewart's our executive

483
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: producer and our technical producer Is Ryan. Smith it's a

484
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: big day for, You, monzie because in a couple of

485
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: hours we'll find, out or you will find. Out we

486
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 3: won't find out until tomorrow that you may have jury duty.

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00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 5: Tomorrow, OH i, Know i've never had to. Report everybody's,

488
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 5: like why don't just throw it, away. Y'all i've been

489
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 5: throwing it away.

490
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 4: For, years and this TIME i chose not. To, OKAY

491
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: i chose to be a good. Person and Now i'm.

492
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 5: Waiting but the times THAT i have called, In i've

493
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 5: never been asked to, Report So i've never actually gone

494
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 5: in like you.

495
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: Have the times That i've That i've you, know called,

496
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 4: in you know you don't need to. Report So i'm

497
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 4: HOPING i don't need to.

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00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: Report, Okay i'm just gonna tell you next, time don't

499
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: say you threw it. Away don't give me the air

500
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: quotes that you called in when you didn't. Miss all

501
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: of this is all. Responsibility manzi could be on jury duty, Tomorrow.

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00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 4: Yes, YES i could.

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00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 7: Be we'll find out in a few hours find out

504
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 7: if you're back with us tomorrow or.

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00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: Not you'll find out in a couple of. Hours we'll

506
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: find out. Tomorrow it was On saturday that The giants

507
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: And dodgers played baseball In San, francisco and what a

508
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: day it was to Honor Barry, Bonds bobs throwing out

509
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: the first pitch to the in the game between THE

510
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: Nl West division. RIVALS i don't think that it is

511
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: a sign of. HEALING i think that it is a

512
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 3: sign of The San Francisco giants promoting one of their.

513
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: Own But Jason, stewarts our executive, producer had a, big

514
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: big problem with The giants In Barry bonds putting on

515
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: a showcase On.

516
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 8: Saturday and there's context for this right because they the

517
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 8: owner of The, GIANTS i, think just recently said that

518
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 8: there's likely going to be a statue in front OF

519
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 8: at AND T. Park and then Also Sammy, soso remember

520
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 8: he was brought back To wrigley to a standing ovation.

521
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 8: Recently AND i think it's a disturbing, trend AS i

522
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 8: pointed out in my ex, post disturbing trend of like

523
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 8: Major League baseball for giving the steroid. Era like the

524
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 8: the faces of the steroid, Era Barry bonds And Sammy

525
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 8: sosa bastardized the sport more than. Anybody they they are

526
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 8: the ones that ruined the record. Books they're the ones

527
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 8: that that were the poster children for that. Era so

528
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 8: it's like you always hear, this everybody was doing, it

529
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 8: they were just doing it better than. Everybody like there

530
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 8: are so many like just vocations for that era THAT

531
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 8: i saw this weekend in my post AND i, thought,

532
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 8: well this probably makes for good sports talk fodder BECAUSE

533
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 8: i can't believe how forgiving people, are AND i can't

534
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 8: believe that the current leadership in baseball acknowledges that that

535
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 8: was an era that they're embarrassed of and they shouldn't

536
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 8: have looked the other, way and now they're celebrating the

537
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 8: key figures of that. Era it doesn't rub me the right.

538
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 8: Way But i'm an old curmudgeon baseball.

539
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 3: FAN i will say this THAT i think that there

540
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: is a unique, audience and it doesn't mean that it's

541
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: a small audience that is up in arms over. THIS

542
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: i think THAT i am not surprised That Barry bonds

543
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: got cheered for The San Francisco. GIANTS i think baseball

544
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: fans are mad at steroid users when they're not when

545
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: they're not on their. Team, okay, so And i'm only

546
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: saying this Because Ryan brawn of The brewers was one

547
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: who was caught up in a later scandal With bosch In.

548
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: Florida part of what a rod was brought into and

549
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: each each team may have their own player in terms

550
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: of supporting. It for The, giants it just happens to

551
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: be one of the best that they've ever. Had for The,

552
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Brewers ryan Broad, like, truly it was a Great Milwaukee,

553
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: brewer not up there with with Yout molitor and how they're.

554
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: Revered So bonds is at a different. Level but IT'S

555
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: i Expect jason to be mad as a baseball, fan

556
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: BUT i don't Expect giants fans to be. MAD i

557
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: actually don't Expect Major League baseball to be mad about,

558
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: it because it sure seemed like they were fine with

559
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: how everything went as it was going. ON i think

560
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: the farce was feeling that they were mad about. It

561
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: so it's such a unique sort of. Deal BUT I

562
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: i get why it turns you. Off BUT i don't

563
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: know what we need to do To Barry, bonds especially

564
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: if it's a home baseball, game to penalize. Him does

565
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: he have to stay? AWAY i, mean he's been a

566
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: coach In Major league baseball since, then, Right so why

567
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: shouldn't he have the opportunity to go and at least

568
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: throw out a first pitch in front of the home, fans, who,

569
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: REALLY i, feel have absolutely no problem with what he

570
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 3: did throughout his career In San.

571
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: Francisco SO i hear where you may not like, It,

572
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 5: JASON i, understand BUT i am not bothered by it

573
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 5: for a couple of reasons. HERE i think the fact

574
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 5: That Barry bonds never won A World i'm right, right

575
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: he never won A World. Series, Right that adds to,

576
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: it like if he would have, won and let's say

577
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 5: he won a. LOT i think that's part of, It Sammy,

578
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 5: Sosa mark McGuire won.

579
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: One but Did mark McGuire when he won? One was

580
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: he on the? Steroids wasn't that before or like at the?

581
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: Start mark McGuire won in nineteen eighty nine.

582
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: And wasn't the aeroids and the serods and like the

583
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 5: nine or? Whatever so he has, Won Sammy.

584
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: SOSA i would be shocked If mark McGuire wasn't on something.

585
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: In the in that. YEAR a year he's got.

586
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: ONE i was so.

587
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: Ripped but they didn't win a bunch like they.

588
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: Were, yes the bash, brothers, right but LIKE i think

589
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 5: them not winning is one of the reasons it doesn't bother. Me,

590
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 5: ALSO i, understand like they, cheated you still have to

591
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: hit the. Ball to, me knowing the pitch is worse

592
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: than you juicing. Up like If i'm a pitcher and

593
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 5: you know What i'm about to pitch THAT i would

594
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: not stand for knowing that you're juiced. Up i'll be,

595
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 5: like try and hit it. Anyway i'm still gonna try

596
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 5: to strike you. Out, like, yeah they're, stronger but they

597
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 5: still have to hit the. Ball so that's another part of.

598
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: It And Barry bond's specifically going out for The giants,

599
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: game LIKE i don't.

600
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: CARE i don't know if it's That i'm moving on and.

601
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: FORGIVING i don't know IF i genuinely was ever really,

602
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: mad If i'm being, Honest.

603
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: AND i think that that's part of where it is in.

604
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: Baseball there WAS i don't think there was ever a

605
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: point Where Barry bonds is hitting seventy three home runs

606
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: in a season And giants fans are, Like i'm not

607
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: watching this crap.

608
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: Exactly like you, know like or baseball, fans not even

609
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 5: Just giants, fans, Right like you were tuning in to

610
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: See barry bar at the.

611
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: Time, YES i think in later years you can feel

612
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: scorn Like. JASON i do AND i AND i looked

613
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: At jason's. TWEET i didn't realize you tweeted it until, Today.

614
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: Jason but the response is to it if you don't

615
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: mind me shut. Up that was from From Marshall eric

616
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: in the south side, right signed, Shoeless Joe jackson And Pete.

617
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: Rose that's What i'll get. To somebody, Wrote, hey All

618
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: berry knew it was The cream and the. Clear someone

619
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: bad Take Jim rome Voice you're gonna be okay like

620
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: those sort of. Things so you're getting a lot of

621
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 3: hate with all of. This but The Pete rose thing pops,

622
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: up and the thing With Pete rose was there was

623
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: there was the opportunity where he was betting against his

624
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: team just for the whole. Sake and it's argument as

625
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: old as time of the day you don't bet on

626
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: him is the day that you're not betting on your

627
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: team to. Win so if you're betting on The reds

628
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: one day and then you don't bet on them the,

629
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: next that means you're not as confident that they're going

630
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: to win the Next so in, essence you think that

631
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: the day before the first day is the day that

632
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 3: they're going to. Win so then you also may use

633
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: your bullpen in a different, way may play different players

634
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: in a different. Way there's a slippery slope when it

635
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: comes To Pete. ROSE i don't, know and you can

636
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: maybe tell me on what people may think that the

637
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: slippery slope is on the flip side Of Barry bonds

638
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: just trying to be the best and trying to trying

639
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: to win in set. Records it may be ruining the

640
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: baseball record. Book but, AGAIN i don't Think San Francisco

641
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: giants fans. CARE i don't know If Milwaukee brewer fans

642
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: care That Ryan brown did what he. DID i don't

643
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: know If cubs fans obviously not. ANYMORE i hate What

644
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: Sammy sosa. Did but on The rose, THING i think

645
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: that there are two sides to. It on the steroid,

646
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: Thing i'm not sure that there are two sides to.

647
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 8: IT i always say this, that like the The Pete rose,

648
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 8: THING i, think uh like tears at the fabric of the.

649
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 8: Game you, know you always hear this the second that

650
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 8: your audience thinks that they're showing up FOR. Wwe you've

651
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 8: lost the credibility of your. Sport and if they think

652
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 8: that players on the field are compromised or throwing the,

653
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 8: game then that that works at the fabric of the.

654
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 8: Sport the steroid guys were doing something that was against

655
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 8: the law of the. Land people say that it was

656
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 8: against the. Rule it wasn't against the rules in. Baseball

657
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 8: AND i always say, this there's a difference between it

658
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 8: not being against their rules and the players' union literally

659
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 8: collectively bargained the inability to test them for. That it

660
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 8: doesn't mean it wasn't against the. Rules, now these guys

661
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 8: did it for their own financial, benefit like for whatever.

662
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 8: Reason the revisionist history is that these guys did it

663
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 8: to levitate the interest of the. Game they were each

664
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 8: in it for. THEMSELVES i agree with that it was.

665
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 8: Borderline minor leaguers could make tens of millions of, dollars you,

666
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 8: know people making tens of millions of dollars could Be

667
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 8: hall of, Famers so they weren't. There there Was there

668
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 8: were no good guys in this whole. Thing BUT i

669
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 8: just think that to celebrate the people that jeopardized the

670
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 8: credibility of the record Books Aaron judge had a home

671
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 8: run number three fifty this. Weekend, okay we should be

672
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 8: celebrating the fact that he's the fastest player to ever do.

673
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 8: It the problem, is how do we even consider home runs?

674
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 8: Nowadays what's? Good, well it's. Not it's and It's Barry bonds's.

675
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 8: Fault It's Sammy sosi's. Fault so for, me it's just

676
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 8: Like monci just, said what do we do to penalize these.

677
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 8: Guys you don't need to penalize them anymore than they already.

678
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 8: Have they're not in The hall Of, fame they've already

679
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 8: kind of reached received their. Penalty but just don't celebrate.

680
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 8: Them don't take a day out of the you, know

681
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 8: the year and celebrate them with a statue and a first.

682
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 8: PITCH i think that's my.

683
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: PROBLEM i understand. IT i just don't think that The

684
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: San Francisco, giants and that's who we're talking about, here

685
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: are the ones that had a problem with it or

686
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: have a problem with it. Afterwards, now they may have

687
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: been the ones to turn the blind, eye just like

688
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: the twenty nine other teams In Major League. Baseball but

689
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: there's THERE'S i understand the, numbers portion of, It like

690
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: when we talk about the home run. NUMBER i STILL

691
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 3: i Think bonds is seven sixty? Two is? That what is?

692
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: That what the number? Is or is it seven sixty?

693
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: Three i'll take your word for. IT i, honestly you

694
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: know it's seven fifty five For Hank aaron And isaac

695
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: De do you know what it?

696
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Is, WELL i think you just made a great point

697
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: by saying that for the record at seven sixty. Two

698
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: but a whole generation of people were raised on having

699
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: seven fourteen Of Babe ruth and seven fifty five Of

700
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: Hank aaron, memorized.

701
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: And those those are the people Like jason in essence

702
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of myself WHERE i don't look At

703
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: Barry bonds's record as being the real. Record sixty one

704
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: is a lot easier to remember than seventy. Three even

705
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 3: when McGuire hit, seventy it was a round, number and

706
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: that was Before bonds ended up breaking it a couple

707
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: of years. Ago but when McGuire stood at, seventy that

708
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: did say something to, me and then it kind of

709
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: went away where sixty one ends up being the magic,

710
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: number and it goes away Because bonds broke seventy and

711
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: then we obviously know what happened after. That BUT i

712
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: think that the continuous penalty is How manzy thinks, it

713
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: How isaac thinks of, it HOW i just explained it to.

714
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: Myself that's the constant. PENALTY i can't fault The San

715
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: Francisco giants for honoring one of their. Own, now If

716
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: Major League baseball were tonight In atlanta to bring Out

717
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: Barry bonds to throw the first, pitch THEN i have

718
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: an then there's a problem with. It but in terms

719
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: of the local team and how they're doing, IT i

720
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: JUST i think of the audience right now that twenty

721
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 3: two years, ago twenty three years, ago those people who

722
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: are maybe early teenagers, thirteen now they're on they're buying

723
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: prime in their late. Thirties they're gonna want to go

724
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: to the ballpark and see the guy that made the

725
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: summer of two thousand and two so. Magnificent and so

726
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: that's why they want to go and See Barry.

727
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 4: Bonds, YEAH i think you just hit.

728
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 5: It if this was just The All Star game In

729
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 5: atlanta and you're Sending Barry bonds, OUT i think it

730
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: would actually raise a lot of questions and a lot

731
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 5: of people be, like why him The, giants that's their.

732
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 5: Dude he's always going to be their. Dude BUT i

733
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: will also say the fact That Aaron judge is hitting

734
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 5: faster than anybody the three hundred and, fiftyes sur Passing

735
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: mark McGuire by almost two hundred, games it goes to

736
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 5: show that who look at, y'all y'all cheat it and

737
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: there are players that are still doing this better than

738
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: you right.

739
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: Now so maybe that's why It like, Ellah.

740
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what when we were On Judge, watch

741
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: ye for sixty one may not be the penalty That

742
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: Jason stewart wants For Barry, bonds BUT i think it

743
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: says a lot, more just like the point of not

744
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: remembering what the actual number was That bonds ended up finishing.

745
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: WITH i just remember that the single season in the

746
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: home run one of them ends in the three and

747
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: one of them ends in a two With. Bond SO

748
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: i wasn't sure if it was seven sixty, two but

749
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: seventy three is the home run. Number but it's moments

750
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: Like Aaron judge hitting number sixty, two us having to

751
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: couch it or characterize it by saying it's The American

752
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: league home run record stinks like that part stinks about.

753
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: It but we were watching everything That Aaron judge was

754
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: doing up in until that. Point there reason been years

755
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: prior to that When John Carlo stanton was getting, close

756
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: when he had what fifty seven or fifty nine didn't

757
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: have nearly as much of the, hype WHICH i Think,

758
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: judge being a member of The yankees alps. With but,

759
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: like those are the. Things like, again it wasn't, like,

760
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: ah he's fifteen away from seventy. Three we were still

761
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: talking about about sixty. One that's WHY i bring Up

762
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: stanton just because he was in The National league at

763
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: that point and he was getting close To Roger morris's.

764
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 8: Market you talk about ninety eight and you talk about

765
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 8: two thousand and two and all these memories that these

766
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 8: reuters were providing their. Fans don't you feel? Duped in other,

767
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 8: WORDS i look back on. THAT i too was excited

768
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 8: for all. That as a baseball, FAN i was ignorant

769
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 8: to what was going. On but then after it was

770
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 8: revealed that all these guys were, cheating THEN i felt,

771
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 8: bad AND i felt worse BECAUSE i fell for. It

772
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 8: it's kind of like The Milli vanilly. Thing it's like

773
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 8: we're not Putting Milli vanilli in The rock And Roll

774
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 8: hall Of fame because they were they were, cheated like

775
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 8: people who went to their. Concerts feel probably really stupid right.

776
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: NOW i don't know if this is this just popped

777
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: into my. HEAD i did not feel stupid like you.

778
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: Did, yeah, NO i.

779
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: DIDN'T i don't feel like they pulled one over on.

780
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: ME i then that's the DIFFERENCE i think in this, argument, Right,

781
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: YEAH i think. SO i also think that there's something

782
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: happening right now, where LIKE i, joke, So James wood's

783
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: a first Time All star for The, nationals AND i

784
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: REMEMBER i talked to you guys of there was a

785
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: stat that came out that, Like James wood at the

786
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: second highest exit velocity of any player in the big

787
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: leagues outside of like shoe Heey otani or.

788
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 4: Something like, that and we were, like what the hell

789
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: does that?

790
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah but But New baseball is, like that's freaking,

791
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: amazing right and so so, now and Maybe jason doesn't

792
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: want to hear, this but if you were to tell

793
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: somebody What Barry bonds's exit velocity was at that time

794
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: compared to you know what it is, now they may

795
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: be blown away by those. Numbers there may be not

796
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: caring about the numbers That isaac cared, about that you cared, About,

797
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: jason That ryan cared, about the mont he cared, about

798
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: THAT i cared, about of sixty, one of seven fifty,

799
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: five and of those, numbers and us being fans of

800
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: those numbers and trying to be protector of the record

801
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 3: books may start to diminish even more as time goes.

802
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: By so then at what point do you, say The

803
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: Sammy sisa And Barry bonds people don't even care about

804
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: the records, anymore but we're still gonna hold you out like.

805
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: THAT i, maybe to your, point that's the principle of.

806
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: IT i just don't think. That at some, POINT i

807
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: do think that there has to be some. Leniency AND

808
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 3: i just look at The giants and being, like they

809
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: never felt that it was. Bad maybe maybe they felt

810
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: dirty As bonds was And balco were being dragged through the,

811
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: Mud but at no point DID i DO i feel

812
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: that The giants had any sort of backlash for What

813
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: Barry bonds.

814
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 8: Was they never. Did The giants fans from day one

815
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 8: have always been behind the. Guy they really haven't even.

816
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 8: WAIVERED i know that, perfect.

817
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: And and And Sammy sosa was up and. Down Sammy

818
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: sosa was also busted with an illegal bat, Right so,

819
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: like there's.

820
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 8: What he was doing it just for the. Fans is

821
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 8: that what you? SAID i cork my bats for the.

822
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 8: Fans so you're on roids and you cork your.

823
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: Bats so that's you, know there's there's something with. That

824
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: do you think steroids and corking your bats are the same? Thing,

825
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: honestly honest. QUESTIONS i mean they're both, cheating, Right that's

826
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: that's the. Point that's why they're both. Cheating LIKE i

827
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 3: look AT i look at. Steroids i'm More i'm more

828
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: appalled by corking of the.

829
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 9: BATS i am to than than because you still have

830
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 9: to hit the. Ball, yes like you you still have you're,

831
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 9: strong but you still have to hit the. Ball BUT

832
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 9: i am more offended by the corking of the.

833
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 8: BAT i remember that being in an argument at the

834
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 8: time on sports talk radio that you, Know Arnold schwarzenegger

835
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 8: couldn't hit fifty home runs in a. Year And i'll

836
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 8: always say, this it takes an intense it's high level,

837
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 8: skill level of hand eye coordination to hit a baseball

838
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 8: on a major league. Level So i've never argued that,

839
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 8: point BUT i will say, this like The Jason geombies

840
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 8: of the world that were able to make three hundred

841
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 8: million dollars in their career as opposed to just kind

842
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 8: of have a. Career it takes those high level handball coordination,

843
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 8: people and it just made everyone this like. FAKE i

844
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 8: don't even know what you. Say there's just a certain

845
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 8: quality to.

846
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: It it's just.

847
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 8: Artificial And i'll never get over that. Part SO i

848
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 8: think that's my.

849
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: Problem also the, players some of the players had much longer.

850
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: Careers crazy to think That bonds would be a better

851
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: hitter in his later years than he was early on

852
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: in his. Career but It's Roger, clemens and we grew

853
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: up in a time mons you weren't born yet Where

854
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: Roger clemens was was the deal in the, eighties and

855
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: then to do the things that he THEN i ended

856
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: up doing in the nineties with The Blue jays and The,

857
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: yankees and it kind of being the Same Roger, clemens

858
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: AND i do FEEL i do feel dumb to that

859
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: point of looking back and, saying look At Roger, clemens you,

860
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: go you, go old, man and then just being naive

861
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Speaker 3: to it so THERE'S I i think that if you're

862
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: a fan of those teams and that's what this, is

863
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: you're not going to be. Bothered but if it was

864
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: a league wide, thing again with The All Star, game

865
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: then it's a bigger. Issue remember When Pete rose it Wasn't, atlanta?

866
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: Right was it at The World series where they did

867
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: The All Century? Team and Then Jim gray asked him the,

868
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: question was That fenway OR i thought it was At? Okay,

869
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: YEAH i thought it was a World see AM i

870
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Speaker 3: mixing The Ted williams thing With, Yeah Isaac lohan cron

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Speaker 3: has got some.

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00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: Information, yeah it was Before game two of the nineteen

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00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: ninety Nine World series In Atlanta Braves.

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00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: Yankees, yes so There's Pete rose at that point of

875
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: a Major League baseball thing being welcomed. Back And i'll say,

876
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 3: this there were more people On rose's side THAN i.

877
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: THINK i don't think there are people who are passionate

878
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: For Barry. BONDS i think there are people who are

879
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: indifferent To Barry. Bonds right, now you're passionately against. It

880
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: there are more people WHO i think are passionately against

881
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: it than are passionately For Barry. Bonds but With Pete

882
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: rose different. Story there were passionate people for it and

883
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: passion passionate people Against Pete, rose AND i think that's

884
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: what also made his situation so. Unique by the, Way

885
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: Pete rose is getting in The hall Of fame because

886
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: he's dead like that is it's true because you will

887
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: hear people, say, oh of, course now that he's, gone

888
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: you put him. In, no that's the reason that he's.

889
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: In the rule That Rob manfred In Major League baseball

890
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: wrote is your lifetime ban is done when you're. Dead

891
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: so If Pete rose were still alive, today he would

892
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: not be in The hall Of, fame And monty AND

893
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: i would be having this conversation With jason and another

894
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: time Whenever Pete. Rose but that is Why Pete rose

895
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: is now in The hall Of. Fame Barry bonds may

896
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: have to wait till that point to be honestly blunt to,

897
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: it to truly get past. It She's Monty, Bolano So

898
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: I'm Dan. Byer it Is Fox Sports. Radio we are

899
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: in For cavino And rich here ON.

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00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 6: Fsr Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup

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00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 6: in the. Nation catch all of our shows At Foxsports

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00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 6: radio Dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

903
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: She's Monty. Bolanos I'm Dan byer in For cavino And

904
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: rich here On Fox Sports. Radio, whew what A. Monday it,

905
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 3: Is what A. MONDAY i got a great. Tweet chris

906
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: tweets in so Justin herbert's career moments have been against The,

907
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: bengals historically bad defense and a twenty twenty one regular season. Game,

908
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 3: yeah no, way he's number. Five. Lol now he's not number,

909
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: five was not number. Five but, STILL i Think chris's

910
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: point is a little bit of what's here. Now The

911
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: Lamar jackson haters would, say, well Where's lamar's playoff? Success

912
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: where's this huge run of playoff? Success Even Josh allen

913
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: for the great games that he had and how close

914
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: they were to knocking off The chiefs in the divisional.

915
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: Playoffs it's kind of the same. Thing BUT i would

916
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: JUST i just thought the tweet was.

917
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: Funny it was NO i chucked.

918
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Not to make it, personal BUT i don't Think chris

919
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent objective because his profile picture includes

920
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: someone in A Joe burrow jersey and he's apparently From.

921
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: Ohio i'm just.

922
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: SAYING i think it's a cute. Picture it's a little. Kid, yes, Yes,

923
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: chris uh, yeah good. Job, YEAH i get. It BUT

924
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: i will say, THIS i think that we're always Taking

925
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: Joe burrow ahead Of Justin. Herbert so the top, four

926
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: there's no there's no threat Of Justin herbert right, now right,

927
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: now right, now breaking the top. Four but things could

928
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: change in twenty twenty.

929
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 4: Five, yeah we've been saying that for a few. Years

930
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: we'll keep saying.

931
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: It let's go to the update. Desk Isaac longkron gives

932
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: us the latest of what's. Happening But i'm not cybers

933
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: talking our. Listeners that's that's. Great love the after, Show,

934
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: yeah big. Fans and, again can you? Know And rich

935
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: are In atlanta at The All Star. Game they'll be

936
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: there tomorrow again With Dan. Patrick Will Moncy bolanos be here,

937
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 3: Tomorrow we don't know because she's on jury.

938
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: Duty she is on jury.

939
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: Duty today is, clean but we don't know about tomorrow.

940
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: Yet we don't. Know we won't know for a few.

941
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: Hours so a couple just like that pitching matchup bullpen GAME,

942
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: tbd who the starter is just like. THAT i will be.

943
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: Here we just don't know If Monty bolanos will BE.

944
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 5: I could do it From Jerry. Duty i'll just be

945
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 5: on the. Phone i'll let you guys.

946
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 3: Listen we're gonna have a play On monzi's current situation

947
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: coming up next, hour but right now we have more important.

948
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 10: Things i've watched twenty. Five i'm watched twenty.

949
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: Five it launched on the week of the fourth Of.

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00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: July Moncey bolanos AND i were in On Fox Sports,

951
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: radio and it is All, lebron all the. Time what

952
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: a weekend it was For. Lebron what a weekend it.

953
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: Was dave McManaman OF espn reports that four teams have

954
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: Contacted Rich paul to say that they are interested in

955
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: trading for The. Star and you just gave me the open, Hands,

956
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: like what's the? Deal did you see my tweet THAT

957
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: i sent out Late. Saturday this is not the biggest

958
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: portion of, it BUT i just don't understand the motion

959
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: or the example That Rich paul is. GIVING i also

960
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: Gave manzi like three milliseconds to answer BEFORE i just

961
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: continued to. TALK i realized.

962
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 7: That you're, Good, no you're. Good you can't if you're another,

963
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 7: team you can't reach out to an agent and say

964
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 7: we'd like to acquire your player when that player has

965
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 7: signed the contract and is under contract with another. Team

966
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 7: it's what they call. TAMPERING i watched, FIVE i watched

967
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 7: twenty so think about. This think about. This The knicks

968
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 7: go To giannis's, Agent, hey we'd like you In New.

969
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 7: YORK i just decided to deal with The. Bucks, yeah

970
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 7: but you're gonna make more money In New.

971
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 10: YORK i watched twenty twenty.

972
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: Five you can't watch do. That guess what you want

973
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: to get out Of, Miami Jimmy, butler come, here come. Here,

974
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: yeah you can't do.

975
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 5: That, well just like we're talking ABOUT nfl quarterbacks getting some,

976
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: Grace lebron apparently gets. Grace apparently you can tamper when

977
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: it comes To Lebron james and it's. Okay you can

978
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: even tell the masses about, it and it's. Okay he

979
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 5: gets that.

980
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: Grace watch watch then we.

981
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 3: Found then we found out the teams that apparently Called Rich.

982
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: Paul so they can be fined In doc's draft picks

983
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: for doing. This, Yeah, Mavericks i've.

984
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 10: Watch twenty twenty. Five i'll watch twenty twenty.

985
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 3: Five warriors.

986
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 10: Watch twenty twenty. Five i'm watch twenty twenty.

987
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: Five we know The calves would call Absolutely.

988
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 10: Watch twenty twenty.

989
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: Five, Yeah watch twenty twenty, five and The.

990
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: Clippers, no, yes, No watch twenty twenty.

991
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 3: Five, no that's the. Report was it? Scoopy, yes.

992
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 4: Scoopy it was something like, That AND i was, like

993
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: is this a real?

994
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: Thing, no stay away from The, Clippers, lebron go ruin another,

995
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: franchise go, bother another, Franchise stay away from The.

996
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 4: Clippers, no thank.

997
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: You I'm i'm not surprised there'd be The. Warriors i'm

998
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: very surprised it would Be. Dallas why that would be.

999
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 5: So great For Nico. Harrison, why, yeah, exactly the story would.

1000
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: Continue And i'm not surprised by The, clippers not surprised

1001
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: by The, warriors surprised by The, MAVs not surprised by The.

1002
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: Calves But Brian windors said recently it'd be very difficult

1003
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: for The cavaliers to be able to do something like

1004
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: darn near.

1005
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 5: Impossible whatever team thinks they can trade For, lebron you're

1006
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: gonna have to give up so.

1007
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: Much you, think, yes you're gonna have to give. Up

1008
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to give up something to make it.

1009
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 3: Work if because Of lebron's. Salary BUT i don't think

1010
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: The lakers want a boatload in return because if he's

1011
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: gonna pull this crap and, Again, latz you said. It

1012
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 3: he tweeted a congratulation to the contract extensions that were

1013
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: given to members of The cavaliers front. Office, yes he's

1014
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: gonna go back. Home one of them is his. Boy

1015
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: it's his. Boy But lebron tweeted five times in the

1016
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: month Of. June he's tweeted at least twice as much

1017
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: In july and we're at the. Fourteenth how DO i

1018
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: know that my half birthday is in two days and

1019
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: that's the midway point of the. Month that's how it.

1020
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: COME i.

1021
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 4: Know, yeah here's my.

1022
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 5: THING i feel that Like lebron will not let himself

1023
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 5: be traded for a low ball package because then he

1024
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: admits that he is.

1025
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: Not worthy of.

1026
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 5: It he's gonna be, like, no, no, no you need to

1027
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 5: throw in a bunch of people because.

1028
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: That's What i'm.

1029
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 3: WORTH i understand that it's like the company you keep

1030
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: exactly this is what you, got. RIGHT i JUST i

1031
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: don't think any team is equipped to Acquire Lebron. James,

1032
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: no of course. Not and so that's that's. Why that's

1033
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: why when The lakers said we're not going to give

1034
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: you a longer, contract it kind of screwed things up

1035
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 3: For lebron in why it made this upcoming year so.

1036
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 3: Bad but there's really no other nothing that really any

1037
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: other team can do to make this work except figuring

1038
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 3: out a buyout With, lebron WHICH i don't think he's

1039
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 3: going to, do which is the reason why he opted

1040
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: into his. Contract he could have just been a free

1041
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: agent you wanted, to but he's, LIKE i want MY

1042
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: i want my. MONEY i don't even think a buyout

1043
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: is on the. TABLE i get what you're, Saying like

1044
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: you're gonna say like you're not Gonna you're not gonna

1045
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: Have lebron end up being traded for you, know two

1046
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: packs of baseball, cards, RIGHT i get. That, Yeah but

1047
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: there's really nothing much that they can do BECAUSE i

1048
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: don't think any, team and again it's we're not talking

1049
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: about the twenty nine other teams outside of The. Lakers

1050
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: we're talking a select few That lebron would be willing

1051
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: to go. To AND i don't think that those teams are,

1052
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: ready by the, way all of those contenders right, NOW i,

1053
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: mean you'd have to think The mavericks are contenders With

1054
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: Cooper flag at least in the playoff Contender, warriors if

1055
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: you would Add lebron obviously would. Be but they're all

1056
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: trying to win AN nba, Championship so that's so it's

1057
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 3: a limited pool. Already by the, Way lebron shows, up

1058
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: says that he doesn't have anything to, say and Then

1059
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 3: dave mcmanhaman has a two minute report.

1060
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 5: On, him say, YEAH i just, yeah that's impressive, though

1061
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 5: to make a story out of. Nothing, uh you, Know

1062
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 5: lebron and The lakers are stuck. Together it seems that. Way,

1063
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 5: yeah it seems like they're stuck.

1064
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: Together AND i.

1065
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: Think he's doing everything that he can to make waves

1066
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: and figure out a way where he can have his.

1067
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 3: Way the problem is With lebron is just mad because

1068
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: The lakers were the first, person the first team to

1069
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: tell him, no.

1070
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: Right and that's the problem is that he probably has

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