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Speaker 1: Wow, Fantasy, what's up? We welcome you into the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fancy Live podcast. James go here with you, joined alongside

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Speaker 1: by MG my guy Marcus. What's up man? What's going on? Man? Good?

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Speaker 1: Chilling chilling hand. Came back from a fun spring training

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Speaker 1: weekend out there. That's right, yeah, man, I was that.

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Speaker 1: a couple of games while we were at the game

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Speaker 1: where unfortunately, well unfortunately you're Giants fan, Madison Bumgarner broke

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Speaker 1: eight weeks. But so funny stories, I'll tell us quickly. Sunday,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna catch one more game because it was the

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Speaker 1: last dance spring training games. Here we go and try

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Speaker 1: to get lawn seats for Diamondbacks Rockies. Figuring it's not

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Speaker 1: dollars for US spring trade practice game. Come on, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't count. So we're like, well now what so where

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Speaker 1: of you just watch these dudes and we'll figuret what

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Speaker 1: then first dating, this guy hits a home run and

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Speaker 1: think that's Nolan Ronado. What only you know, the best

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Speaker 1: third basement of the National League. That's right? Why is

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Speaker 1: he crap? But that next inning, guys at the plate,

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Speaker 1: that's that's Paul Goldschmid. What's happening here? I don't know

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Speaker 1: what does that? Carls comes on this play basically, guess

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Speaker 1: like just crushing balls. He sat there for like five minutes,

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Speaker 1: because these guys were hitting literally every We're like, wow, well,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty dope. Screw you and your sixty eight dollar

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Speaker 1: tickets we saw coming for free exactly. I love it.

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Speaker 1: And then once those guys shout it down for the day,

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Speaker 1: Matt Harmon, West Virginia's finalist from Wide Receiver Prognusticator himself.

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Speaker 1: It is Man Harmon. What's up? Man? Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: know any of the words that you all just said,

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Speaker 1: but I do have some breaking news. I was going

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Speaker 1: to say I was going to break big quarterback trade

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Speaker 1: Browns have traded backup quarterback Cody Kessler to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: The trade tsunami continued. Oh man, I just wrote about

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Speaker 1: all the trades a couple of weeks. Trade tsunami continued.

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Speaker 1: But another news, yampus okay, producer Christina in the building.

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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? How are you doing good? How

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Speaker 1: are you feeling it? You got a what a Steelers sure?

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Speaker 1: Are you Steelers fan? Yes? Oh boy, Well this is

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Speaker 1: going to change a few things. Well, franchise has gone

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I thought we were rid of that franchise.

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Speaker 1: Well not not that that. The football fan tries of

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Speaker 1: the Steelers were everywhere. Yeah, I know, terrible towels, just

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Speaker 1: the entire pod squad is Steelers fans pretty much. Tam

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Speaker 1: show in front of us here today, gonna be breaking

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Speaker 1: in the NFL over the past week. We're welcoming in

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Speaker 1: Doug Ferrar from Bleacher Report as well. I got an

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Speaker 1: out your show with a round of daily depths. But

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Speaker 1: we start your show as we always do, with your

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Speaker 1: top fantasy headlines. Oh my god, the news we really

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Speaker 1: Sometimes so Chuck, Chuck. Um, you know franchise is in

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Speaker 1: Very excited, Christine. God, and that was getting awful having

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Speaker 1: you don't trade a player like this transformative talent. That

426
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Speaker 1: being said, um, we talked about this with other players

427
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: all the time. He's part of the old regime. Himan

428
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: is trying to come in wipe out whatever the old

429
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: regime was doing. I feel like a guy with that

430
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: much talent. I know, I know, I know. I'm just saying.

431
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we say it, you know what I mean,

432
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Speaker 1: So I don't know it's um I will say also, though,

433
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Speaker 1: if I mean, if what Schefter's later tweet was, if

434
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Speaker 1: it's really a first and I have a third or fourth,

435
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: I got a whole lot more teams to jump in

436
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: on that. If that's if that's what they're asking prize

437
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: the first and third. The tough part about paying two

438
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: first is then you also have to turn around and

439
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: pay him. That's what I'm saying. No, No, that's what

440
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So the first and third, I think even

441
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: a first and a third is pretty tough. If you

442
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: could trade a player and a first, I think more

443
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: teams would be apt to do that because trading away

444
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: those draft picks. The problem there is the financials man. Yeah,

445
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: because and if you're Beckham, all you gotta do is,

446
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: you know, tell him look at the numbers, baby, because

447
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: like the numbers, the numbers he's put up versus the

448
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: number of like what Sammy Watkins is making this year.

449
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins is a sixteen million dollar receiver. Odell Beckham

450
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: is definitely he can just tell him again, if it's

451
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: if it's with the if it's whether it's the Giants

452
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: or where another team comes in on, if he it's

453
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: free agency, he's definitely getting a four year eighty. I

454
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: mean that's just bottom like baseline. What right Odell is

455
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna make? You know what I mean? This is an

456
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: absolute difference maker. And for the Giants, yeah, it doesn't

457
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: really it makes no sense unless again he is just

458
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: unbearable to deal with um or if they really feel

459
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: like they want to start over, then they're idiots though,

460
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: because then they they they're they're making no sense with

461
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: this whole Eli Manning campaign that they put out there,

462
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: because Manning cannot push the ball outside the numbers anymore.

463
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: But how about this, how about if it's just all

464
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: that's all pr? Oh? I think I think it probably

465
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: is too, That's what I'm saying. I think it's all

466
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Speaker 1: PR because they saw what happened last year when they

467
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Speaker 1: best Eli. I don't know, I mean, first of all,

468
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: you don't bet you reason. Look, you don't bet you

469
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: life for Gino. Okay, fine, I get that. I'm just

470
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Speaker 1: saying I think the thought in the organization might be

471
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: that ELI has done, which is I don't think they're

472
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: that far off from that. But you can't come out

473
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: and say that, Oh yeah, no, no no, I agree, But

474
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: I think they take I think they're gonna end up

475
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: sticking it to take a quarterback in a quarterback, so

476
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: it is kind of a start over. But again, we

477
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: have seen what this offense looks like without Beckham, and

478
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: it's good. It's so bad, So I don't know. For me,

479
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Speaker 1: I think you just deal with it and you make

480
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: it work again, unless unless he's just, unless he's just unbearable,

481
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: unless he's just and I don't because he's not a

482
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: bad guy, like he doesn't get in trouble off the field.

483
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: He definitely a super competitive there's no question about he

484
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: works as he works his tail off to be great OBUs.

485
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: So I think you just shut up and deal with

486
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: it unless some team is going to give you a

487
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Speaker 1: godfather offer. And I don't think he teams canna give

488
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: him father offer, so it's probably all for nothing, but

489
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: it is a It is a fast aning conversation. Love it,

490
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. I don't know, because he's one

491
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: of the ten best players in the NFL, for sure,

492
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: and one of the five most interesting. Yeah, I mean

493
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: forget talent. I mean the talent of obviously plays into that,

494
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: but he's just so damn interesting. He can be definitely

495
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: a little tedious, like I think Beckham is on is

496
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: on the Adam Levitan. He talks about this a lot.

497
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: Is like one of the players I love to watch

498
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: the most but would want to get a drink with

499
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: the least. That's probably Beckham's on that scale. I don't

500
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: think i'd disagree. I'd love to go out with b J.

501
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: I feel like I couldn't handle it. But one night, man,

502
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: let's go hard. If I were already in the club

503
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: and he walked in, I'm like, oh, okay, I would

504
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: observe from a safe distance. But like, I don't think,

505
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, because when I think about getting a beer

506
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Speaker 1: with somebody, I'm like, yeah, we're gonna go to you know,

507
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Irish Times up the street. You would high class Irish

508
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: Irish Times, tivy, stupid Irish bar, good barn, sorry, but good, good,

509
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: good Irish bar and have a couple of beers and

510
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: talk about life and all that. Like, I don't I

511
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: don't any that Bill. I don't know, man, That's what

512
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Probably not a lot. All right, there you go,

513
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: We'll move on. Hey, the NFL finally changed the catch rule.

514
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: It's two ft a football move in some other nebulous

515
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: criteria that I'm sure it's going to ruin it for everyone.

516
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: That's good. Here's the bad. The league also added targeting

517
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: to the rule book as well. Maybe you don't follow

518
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: college football, maybe you don't realize how much of a

519
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: disaster this rule is going to be. Here's the rule,

520
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: via Brian McCarthy of NFL Public Relations. If a foul,

521
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: it is a foul. If a player lowers his head

522
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent,

523
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: the player may be disqualified. Applies to any player. Anywhere

524
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: on the field a player could be disqualified. That's where

525
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: the targeting rule in college is an abject disaster. And

526
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: that's where I am surprised. And maybe I'm not surprised,

527
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: but I am surprised that the NFL adopted that portion

528
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: of the targeting rule. Making a fifteen yard penalty disqualification.

529
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you're altering games, and that's what we're seeing

530
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: in college. You're altering game. So yes, there are I

531
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: have we all understand the reason for it, and it

532
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: is an attempt to make the game safer and to

533
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: try to minimize injuries and you know, head and neck

534
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: injuries and that sort of thing. Uh. Obviously, if you

535
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: were falling along on Twitter, you saw a number of

536
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: players that were visibly unhappy about it because the rule

537
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: is so a morphous. It's a morphous. It's so bad one.

538
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: It's so bad. It's certainly going to lead to weird ejections,

539
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: are gonna have a lot more reviews, which will slow

540
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: down games. Also, this makes me upset though that we

541
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: didn't get my proposed passive fearence judgment, because we are

542
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: now we're we are asking officials to determine intent a

543
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: little bit. So why can't we let them determine intent

544
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: on pass interferans rules. I see what you're saying, right,

545
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 1: If we're gonna do it for one, let's do it

546
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: for more things. It's just I don't know, man, I

547
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: look at the wording of this rule. There is no

548
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: part of the wording and the and the thing is

549
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: too it sounds like they just slapped it together. Well,

550
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: we'll go through a year of it, and this time

551
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: next year and we get to the owner's meeting and

552
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: the competition committee gets together, they will tweak it. I

553
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: mean that that I think is what that I think

554
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: is for sure going to happen. It will. It will

555
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: start off as this. They will officiate it one way,

556
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: and then as they get complaints and and suggestions from

557
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: the players, if a player lowers his head and makes

558
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: content with his helmet, they will tweak it. The player

559
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: may be disqualified. Bro, that's every play, on every down.

560
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's it's crazy that you could

561
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: disqualify player for that. I just this is an abject disaster.

562
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: It is. It's just gonna be. There's gonna be a

563
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: lot of games that are going to be decided by

564
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: this rule. Maybe they're not quote unquote decided by this rule,

565
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: but they're going severely impact games. And and as we

566
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: saw with the the the convoluted catch rule, it ruined

567
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: the experience for a lot of fans. I think we'll

568
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: see that again. I don't know why the hell they

569
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: added it um in this way. I don't know. I'm

570
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: just I'm not hopeful that this rule is gonna work

571
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: out too good. Hey, Andrew Luck is throwing officially now,

572
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: like for real, for real, for real, for real. The

573
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: cults are hedging their bets. I think a little bit though,

574
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: because they have reportedly rebuked offers for Jacoby Brissette as well. Hey,

575
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: Terrell Prior officially signed with the Jets. Talked about this

576
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: with Manische Mata a little bit last week. There were

577
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot of rumors, rumblings that Prior could sign with

578
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: New York and he officially as signed there. Now he

579
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: joins your main curse possibly, I don't know. He could

580
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: be a salary cap casualty are Darius Stewart and Chad

581
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: Hanson for sure, we'll be there, you all my love

582
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: affair for Chad Hanson. I mean Chad Hanson might not

583
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: be there. He could get cut, all right, listen, Bell,

584
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: you wouldn't cut the best player on your team. That's

585
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: not what you do, uh, Terrell Prior though, and and again,

586
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: who knows what the hell is gonna happen with Robby Anderson,

587
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: who's facing multiple felonies right now, But Terrell prior to

588
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: the Jets. Doesn't mean anything to you gentlemen here in

589
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: terms of fantasy. Um, I don't know. I mean it's

590
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: not a it's not a terrible group theoretical value, it's

591
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: not theoretical target shares there. I mean Curse had a

592
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: good year last year. Uh, like surprisingly good year. Was

593
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: definitely useful in fantasy at times if you play in

594
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: a league that started multiple wide receivers. Anderson obviously was

595
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: kind of a breakout star. Uh. I think this is

596
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: a good place for Trope because they're gonna have Josh

597
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: McCown there, who was in a really effective deep passer

598
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: last year, again mostly with h Anderson. Him staying healthy

599
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: is maybe the lynch pint to this whole thing. Yeah,

600
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: because we saw me. We saw last year that went

601
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: it went south once he got hurt. But I don't

602
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: know what Teddy Bridgewater can be if Teddy Bridgewater is

603
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: even there, because how little is the contract. Yeah, he

604
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: could easily not right, he could not usually not make

605
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: the opening day roster. But if he goes out, there

606
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: is a theoretical upgrade over Bryce Petty, who is horrible

607
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: and Russian Hackenburger Hackerberg, who's not even a real person. Um.

608
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: But and also they'll be drafting somebody at that third

609
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: overall pick that they just got, and we're gonna talk

610
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: with about that with Doug. And I really like, you know,

611
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: because I think Josh Allen's gonna go top ten. I

612
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: really like the idea of maybe even like a big

613
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: arm quarterback like that in a offensive clearly wants to

614
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: stretch the field with Prior and Anderson and curse. Speaking

615
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: of Doug Ferrr, we go to the phones. We welcome

616
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: in Doug fer Are from Bleacher Report. Find him on

617
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: Twitter at b are underscored Doug Ferrar. He is the

618
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: NFL lead scout for bleacher an actual, real life, honest

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Speaker 1: to god author, as well a self reported musician. We've

620
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: got Dug for Ore on the phone. Duck. What's going man?

621
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: How are you doing good? How are you guys today?

622
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: We're good? Man. So, you know a lot of talents.

623
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: What did I bring to the table. How do you

624
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: said all this talent in one room? I don't know.

625
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hey, listen, let's get right into it, man.

626
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: You know the draft right around the corner. Your most

627
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: recent article talked about Sam Donald to the Browns, Um,

628
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: you sat down watch some Sam Donald tape. What did

629
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: you find? You know, it's it's interesting how a guy

630
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: can be perceived as a pro style quarterback. First impression

631
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: of USC. I mean it's it's as if people think

632
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: that John McKay is still running the old eye formation.

633
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Donald is primarily a shotgun quarterback. When he

634
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have to use his feet a lot, and when

635
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Speaker 1: he can throw with his upper body, he's great. I

636
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: mean never throws he made, especially against Texas in that

637
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: two overtime game, he looked like Philip Rivers. Unconventional delivery, slow,

638
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: choppy footwork and all that. But he has the potential

639
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: and the arm to be a top level quarterback. He's

640
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: got a couple of major problems that may take a

641
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: while to fix. His footwork is not good, his dropback

642
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: is slow. He did not It's interesting. I was reading

643
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: an article in the MMQB where, um, I think it

644
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: was Albert Breer talked to Jordan Palmer, who is Donald's

645
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: performance coach. And Jordan Palmer, who knows a ton about

646
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: quarterback and I'm not impugning him at all, was talking

647
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: about what a great thrower Donald is on the run,

648
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: and I didn't see that. And part of the reason

649
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: I didn't see that is because Donald tends to not

650
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: square his shoulders to the target. Um. And I think

651
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: just generally he's not efficient uh in the transition from

652
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: his lower body to his upper body. This is true

653
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: with pictures and quarterbacks. You really get your consistent velocity

654
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of your accuracy throwing from your lower

655
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: body up. Donald makes a lot of arm throws, and

656
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: he can get away with that in college. Um, when

657
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: the windows are say a yard long, I don't think

658
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: when in the NFL and the windows are six inches long,

659
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: he's you know, I think he's going to he may

660
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: be the number one overall quarterback. It wouldn't surprise me.

661
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a ridiculous decision by

662
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: the Browns. But Hugh Jackson is going to have his

663
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: work cut out for him with Donald mechanically. And again,

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Speaker 1: I think Donald has the potential to be, uh, you know,

665
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: a reasonably decent or better NFL quarterback. Um. I don't

666
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: think his throwing motion is a problem. I think his

667
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: lower body mechanics are. And I think lower body mechanics

668
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: are a lot easier to clean up than throwing motion.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that people love about Sam Donald is that,

670
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think when Jordan Palmer is talking about

671
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 1: being able to make throws on the run, when he

672
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: makes the those throws, I hear what you're saying, not

673
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: a consistent thrower on the run. But when he makes them,

674
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: my god, they look awesome. That's his you know, really,

675
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: that's his whole thing. Yeah, that that's his whole thing

676
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: when he makes those throws. He had a couple of

677
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: tight window throws against Texas that were just I mean ridiculous,

678
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: a couple of the overtime overtime touchdown and there was

679
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: an incompletion that was a perfect throw um. And you

680
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: can do this with any quarterback. I remember talking to

681
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: someone about David Fayles when Sales came out, and this

682
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: guy told me that if you put a highlight reel

683
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: together of fails is twenty best throws, you would think

684
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: he was the best quarterback you've seen in five years.

685
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: The problem is all the other stuff, and with Donald

686
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other stuff. Um, there are intersect Yeah,

687
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: can you talk I was just about to say, can

688
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: you talk about the turnovers? Because to me, that's a

689
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: real big bugaboo for Sam Donald. Fumbles are a problem.

690
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Overthrows for interceptions or a problem. I don't think he

691
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: always knows where the ball goes, and I'm not I

692
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: mean that sounds funny. I don't think he does, because

693
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: there are it's it's like and and I've seen as

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00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks. If he takes the three to five

695
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: step drop, he's pretty confident in the ability to make

696
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: an arm throw because you know how this is. You're

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00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: you're matching up a three to five step drop, it's

698
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: a short, you're in immediate route. If you go seventh

699
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: step and you're running deep, and maybe he has to

700
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: get off his spot because he's being pressured. That's where

701
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: things get a little weird. So I would say in

702
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: the five to seven step drop range, he doesn't always

703
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: know where the ball goes because he is not using

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: his lower body consistently. I don't think he trusts his mechanics,

705
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: nor do I think he should. And a lot of

706
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: those turnovers come from arm throws. And this is something

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00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: I noticed that Luke Falk does. He will hold his

708
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: right foot back when he's throwing. He will extend his

709
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: upper body and actually hold his right foot back for

710
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: some maybe someone told him that it creates tortal I

711
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: don't know what, but he's not able to from the

712
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: lower body. You guys know how interest seeing the performance

713
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: coaching industry can be. Um. I'm just saying, and I'm

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00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: not imputing. I mean, Jordan Palmer's worked a lot of guys.

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00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that he's wrong about Donald

716
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: throwing on the run or anything else. But Jordan Palmer

717
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: said he's got to clean up his footwork. And Donald

718
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: sit at the combine that Palmer is working with him

719
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: on firing his hips through and this is the same.

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00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, as a really horrible golfer, I can tell

721
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: you that if you're not firing your hip, that's right.

722
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: So you know, you create velocity and a lot of

723
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: athletic endeavors. Now that I would ever call my golfing

724
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: an athletic endeavor, but from your lower body. And I

725
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: think as soon as Donald figures that out, a lot

726
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: of the mess will clear away. I just think it's

727
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: something to be cognizant of at this point. So I

728
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: got a question here about Donald actually kind of a

729
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: two layers of a question here one our own Daniel

730
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: Jeremiah said that he thinks Donald is like the best

731
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: quarterback prospect from the last couple of classes, and I

732
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: think he had Carson Wentz as number two. They're kind

733
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: of take us back in your own time machine, Dug,

734
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: how do you think Donald compares to Carson Wentz as

735
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: a prospect? Like just not not what we know of

736
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Wentz now in the NFL, but more of what you

737
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: thought of him as a prospect. And also, secondly, do

738
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: you think it's kind of odd? And and maybe you

739
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: know Marcus and James, you guys can chiming on those two.

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00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like Donald has not been picked

741
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: apart like other top prospects like in this class, which

742
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: is kind of odd. Like Lamar Jackson, I can tell

743
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: you that, no, no doubt about it. But with with Jackson,

744
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of stupid questions. With Rosen there's the

745
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: personality questions that also seem a little peculiar. Baker Mayfield

746
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: also gets personality questions too, and size too, and even

747
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: just like looking back at quarterbacks of the last few years,

748
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: it feels like everybody goes through the psych at some

749
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: point in the cycle. They get to be the guy

750
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: in the spot like that gets picked apart. But I

751
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: feels like Donald's oddly been Like you know what, man,

752
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: I think part of it is is is the cash

753
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: a right he comes from U s C. I mean,

754
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: he looks like a prototypical NFL quarterback too, so he

755
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: fits the bill. And I think when you start talking

756
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: about guys getting picked apart um, a lot of that

757
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: has to do with optics. And I know that sounds

758
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: so stupid, but it's true. Does a guy look like

759
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: in NFL quarterback? And I think Sam Donald checks all

760
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: those boxes, oh USC, oh, making these big time throws

761
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: played in big time games. And you know, he's got

762
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: the requisite armtown, he's got the requisite size, And I

763
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: think that's kind of why he gets a pass on

764
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: certain things like the turnovers, which I think is a

765
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: big issue in the NFL um and I think it

766
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: will continue to plague him at the pro level as well.

767
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: But uh, but hey, listen, can I get to one

768
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: of your articles here real quick? I want to answer

769
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: my question. Sorry, so I know and then redirected that question.

770
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm not, but yeah, how do you like about the

771
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: about Donald not being picked party in the In the

772
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: Donald tape piece I did last week, I said that

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00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: the draft industrial complex needs a winner at quarterback every year,

774
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: and Donald is there's no I mean, let me put

775
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: let me say this. In my opinion, there is no

776
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: alpha in this quarterback class. There is no Ender Luck,

777
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: there is no RG three, there's no Russell Wilson, there's

778
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: no Carson Wentz. By the way, none of these guys

779
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: is as good as Carson Wentz coming out of college.

780
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: In my opinion, UM, so I think Donald has the

781
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: least amount of flaws among the top guys. You know,

782
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: if Mason Rudolph was a little better, if you know,

783
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: you know a few guys they were a little bit better,

784
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: and they had a clean resume, so to speak, that

785
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: would work. So I think Donald's just he's the cleanest

786
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: guy in a group full of you know, B two

787
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: B plus prospect quarterbacks. Um that's my opinion. I mean,

788
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: I know Daniel, I respect his opinion more than most

789
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: and if that's what he believes that, I certainly respected

790
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: um as far as once coming out of college. Um.

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00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: One thing that my friend Greg Costell told me a

792
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: long time ago, and I've learned more about football from

793
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: Greg than just about anyone else. Um. He told me,

794
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: when you're looking at strength of opponent, isolate the quarterback.

795
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Don't look at the receivers, don't look at the crappy coverage,

796
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: don't look at the guys who are you know, the

797
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: whole Josh Allen argument a strength of his receivers or whatever. Um.

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00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: When I watched once, I saw a guy with plus

799
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: potential as a thrower and a runner. Um. I when

800
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: I think, I think it was still at Sports Illistery

801
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: when he came out and I was doing the s

802
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: I fifty and I had him way above Jared Goffin.

803
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: I compared him to Ben Roethlisberger. Then. UM, I thought

804
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: he had that potential to not only grow and develop

805
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, but he was physical enough to sort

806
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: of transcend whatever mistakes he would make. I would say,

807
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: of the last two years, he's by far the most

808
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: impressive prospect. Not that he's you know and all times

809
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember going back and taking this guy's an

810
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: all time or like when I looked at Andrew Luck,

811
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm like this guy, Steve Young, forget it, it's over.

812
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: He's the you know. Um. But I would say in

813
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: the last two years, I would put Wentz number one. Um,

814
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: you know I I wasn't impressed with golf at all.

815
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: I think what Sean McVeigh has done has been just amazing. Um.

816
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: I mean golf couldn't make sidelines throws at Cow. He was,

817
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, firing the ball over the place. And McVeigh

818
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: comes in and says, after that, Rob boris disaster. Okay,

819
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: your first read is always going to be open, and

820
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: just as it was with Mike McCoy and Tim Tebow.

821
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: It's funny how quarterbacks improved when their first read is

822
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: always open. Yeah, I would say, I would say that

823
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: once is and by a pre considerable distance. Um, And

824
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean I could, but it's not reflective of what

825
00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: he's done since. Although his career, his career trajectory in

826
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: the first two years without my injury looked a lot

827
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck, because you remember when Luck came out,

828
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: Bruce arians gave him the full NFL playbook and said

829
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: no training wheels downhill nine ms an hour from day one,

830
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: and Luck could handle it, and Wentz could handle it.

831
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: He had the second most past attempts for a rookie

832
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: in NFL history, behind Luck. In his in his first season,

833
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: so you know, and certainly he improved in his second year. Yeah,

834
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't see any of these guys in this class

835
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: impressing me as much as Lench. As they come out

836
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: now they get into system, who knows. But that's where

837
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: I stand right now. You mentioned Josh Allen. Have have

838
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: we piled on him too much? He seems to be

839
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: the one guy who's been broken down more than anybody,

840
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: I think, so it gets the point where you think

841
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: he's Ryan Mallan and can't even move around, which isn't true.

842
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's got now I'm serious, man, everyone's assuming

843
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: that he can't even late in his career. God God

844
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: bless Drew bledso late in his career. I said that

845
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe was a statue with a cannon attached. And

846
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: I think everyone's kind of figuring that Josh Ellen is

847
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: that same guy. He's got decent footwork. I mean, in

848
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: the wrong system, he could turn out to be Mike

849
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: glennon um. But you know, and and there's a guy

850
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: and accuracy never improves in the NFL. And I don't

851
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: really want to hear any more about oh, his receivers

852
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: were bad, or oh this or oh that I don't care.

853
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: I isolate the quarterback. I look at his mechanics, I

854
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: look at his arm. His arm is incredible on the

855
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: deep stuff. But you know, I here's what I think.

856
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: I think the NFL has a total man crush on

857
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: the big guy, big arm thing, and there is a

858
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: reactionary anti man crush that goes immediately to, oh, big guy,

859
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: big arm. You guys are idiots. You don't know anything.

860
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: You know to me, Alan somewhere in the middle, I mean,

861
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I would probably put a second round grade on him

862
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: because I'm far. Velocity to me is about fourth or

863
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: fifth on the list of things that live for in

864
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback. UM. And this is all subjective. If if

865
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: you want a guy throwing, you know, nine routs, that's

866
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: your guy. UM. But you know, as I said, it's

867
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: all subjective. Is it? Is it crazy for me to say,

868
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm a cow guy. But when I

869
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: watched him play and I'm i'm I'm looking at all

870
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: the games that he's thrown, I can't help but think

871
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: of Kyle Bowler. Man, I mean, big arm, I mean

872
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: obviously a bigger dude than Kyle Bowler, but he had

873
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: that requisite arm strength as well. But you talk about

874
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: accuracy not improving in the NFL. Good God Almighty Kyle

875
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: Bowler just couldn't hit it. So um, I don't know.

876
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm way off there, but I

877
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: just get I get feelings of Kyle Bowler there with

878
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and I don't know if that's fair. Well,

879
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I brought up to Mic grun in comparison.

880
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: That's kind of where I stand with it. Although you're

881
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: processor than Mike going in, he's actually pretty you know,

882
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: you want to see him improve more on second and

883
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: third reads. But you could say that like any um, yeah,

884
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean we I that's the pro him and Lamar

885
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: Jackson and the two guys where the opinions have been

886
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: cycled and recycled so many times you don't really know

887
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: what to look at anymore. And it's hard then to

888
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: look at the tape objectively. And you know, every time

889
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: he makes a mistake, you start, oh see I said this,

890
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: and now he's a moron and all that. That's why

891
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm watching Sleeper Guys now because I can't watch any

892
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: more Josh Allen table. It's like, oh boy, and you

893
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: know nothing can get Josh Allen. I just there's so

894
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: much noise in your head that you have to filter

895
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: out watch any player, and Josh Allen certainly has had

896
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: more than his share of noise, which I'm sure he's

897
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: pretty tired of at this point. The man crush that

898
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: the NFL has on these type of guys, it's gotta be.

899
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: I feel like it's because there's so much ego you

900
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: have to have when it's when you're a coach, when

901
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: you're a head coach and all that. Like it's just

902
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: at his very ego based position. We see it work

903
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: for some guys, we see it not work for other guys.

904
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: And I think just most of these teams think, man,

905
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: if we just get this guy in our offense, you know,

906
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: and I can mold him, I can fix these one

907
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: or two little things. I can be the one to

908
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: do it. Like, just imagine what this prospect is that

909
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have. And to me, it just comes down

910
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: like where's he gonna go? Because if he goes to

911
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: like Buffalo, oh my god, Like that's just gonna be

912
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: a nightmare with nobody to throw too, with a bad

913
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: offensive line. But you know, I think like if he

914
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: goes to the Jets. I'm actually kind of talking myself

915
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: into that that might be a good thing if Josh

916
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: Allen goes, because they have a lot of vertical receivers.

917
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: If they build up the past protection a little bit,

918
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: I think I think he could work out there. I

919
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: think he's best. Say he's totally not anything like Cam Newton,

920
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: but I think it's best that his Carolina, because that's me.

921
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: That's a non offensive throw right there. Some people say

922
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: they do make that Cam Newton comparison, which I don't

923
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't compare mcam Newton at all. I'm just saying for

924
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: what North Turner wants, um and any. I mean, if

925
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians was still in the league, I think he

926
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: might take a Allen and you'd love to see that

927
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: any you know, any team. And Arians was a little

928
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: different because he'd run front side verts and you know,

929
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: backside skinny slants and things like that to give his

930
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks an easy backside read and whatnot. But yeah, it's

931
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: so much, and I don't know that any of these

932
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: guys is really scheme transcendent. I think if you want

933
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: to if you're the Texans or the Niners and you

934
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: want a quarterback who really excels in a boot right game.

935
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to touch Donald with a

936
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: fifty ft poll. Um, if you want to a consistent

937
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: deep thrower, you might shy away from Mayfield. I mean

938
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Josh Rosen, excuse me, is probably the

939
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: in my mind, the s combination in this class of

940
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: mechanics and processing. But you know, he's got a lot

941
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: of easy openings in that offense, and you kind of

942
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: wonder how that's gonna work. So you know, can you

943
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: give me work? None of them are skiing transcendent, and

944
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: that's true of of the quarter The only quarterback I've

945
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: ever looked at in the fifteen years I've been doing this.

946
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: This guy can go in any scheme right now and

947
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: win is Andrew Luck. That's it. There you go, Um,

948
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: talk to me about Lamar Jackson a little bit. Um,

949
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: I've got them kind of in that same prospect here

950
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: as Baker Mayfield. But give me a team and or

951
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: a scheme fit that you think would be ideal for

952
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Jacksonville, that question. Um. Now,

953
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: obviously they've retooled the receiver corps, but that's a run

954
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: heavy offense. You install a quarterback who can do what

955
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can do as a runner with what they

956
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: have power run game. Uh, you're remember in the first

957
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: half of the f C Championship with Blake Bortles, who

958
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: is an average I'm not gonna pile on Blake Bortles.

959
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: I think he's an average quarterback. He's pretty good. But

960
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: they were running really really elementary r p o s

961
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: and they had that game one, and then all of

962
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: a sudden they put all that stuff back in the bent.

963
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: In the second half, they were a half and a

964
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: few good schemed up players away from maybe going to

965
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You take the first half of that

966
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: Patriots game the a f C Championship and you install

967
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in there, and your head might explode? Is it?

968
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: Is it because the prospects of like naked bootleg or

969
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: something that you know that Lamar Jackson could could absolutely exploit.

970
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: Is that is that what you're seeing there? Or at

971
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: least have thoughts of you've got well, you've got run faked,

972
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: you've got actual runs, You've got for net to deal with,

973
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: You've got an improved offensive line. Um, you know, Lamar

974
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: Jackson eight like the buffet at Golden Corral off of

975
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 1: defenders getting too cautious with his running ability and throwing

976
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: right over their heads, which was true of Michael Vick,

977
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: which was true of Randall Cunningham. You know, and I

978
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: remember when Robert Griffin came out and everyone was saying

979
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, Michael Vick. I thought, no, he's Randall Cunningham.

980
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: And Robert Griffin before he got hurt. In my mind,

981
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: was the perfect combination of Randall Cunningham early in his

982
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: career with the mobility and the athleticism, and Randall Cunningham

983
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: late in his career when he got Brian Billick and

984
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he was a really efficient and

985
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: consistent quarterback. I don't think Lamar Jackson is there yet,

986
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: but I think you can. And I think anyone who

987
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: talks about him moving to wide receivers should not be

988
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: working in the n I don't know. Can I be

989
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: any clearer about how stupid this is? It's really agree

990
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: all right, We've talked about some big names, a lot

991
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks here, but can give me an offensive sleeper

992
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: prospect that could surprise if he gets into the right system.

993
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: You know I'm looking at um A couple of guys,

994
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: Dont Pettis don't know. I'm actually because I'm putting it.

995
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm actually doing a sleeper piece, a piece on sleeper

996
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: players on Friday for Breach Report. You guys watched Michael Gallup.

997
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: You were from the Colorado State reminds me a lot

998
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: of Alan Hearn's not tremendously fast, pretty physical, good blocker.

999
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: The thing I like about him, and especially I was

1000
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: watching the Alabama game. Yes, Colorado State played Alabama, and

1001
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with because they've pressed the heck

1002
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: out of him early on and he struggled with it

1003
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: because I don't think he was used to it. By

1004
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: the second half, he had come up with adaptive movements

1005
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: to sort of get out of press, and he made

1006
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: some really impressive catches with cornerbacks all over him. Um,

1007
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: I think this is a guy who can play outside

1008
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: and in the slot. I don't think he's the number

1009
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: one receiver, but be in the middle rounds. This is

1010
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: a guy. You know, you're guy. I think you could

1011
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: be quite impressive. I was hoping you're I was hoping

1012
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: you were going to mention Gallup. Doug because I saw

1013
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: you tweet about you were tweeting about him today. Uh,

1014
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, that that's a great call. You know,

1015
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: I just put out a piece comparing him, and I

1016
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on this. I put a

1017
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: piece comparing him to like Michael Crabtree and kind of

1018
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: similarly Michael Thomas that he came out of the draft

1019
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, obviously went to the Saints.

1020
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: The reason I like that comparisons because like when I

1021
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: was watching both of these guys and obviously charting all

1022
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: the routes and everything for reception perception, to me that

1023
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: like both these guys would just looked like pros. They

1024
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: ran routes like pros, they catch balls in traffic like pros,

1025
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: like as you mentioned. So I think that's a great

1026
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: call for for a sleeper. Uh. To me, they're on

1027
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: that same access of like pretty not like the prettiest

1028
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: route runners in the world, but very effective route runners

1029
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: and great ed winning contested passes. So I think that's

1030
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: a great call. If he goes to the right spot,

1031
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: I think fantasy owners will be intrigued for sure. Yeah,

1032
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: the one the crab Tree and Thomas comparisons are interesting

1033
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's a dynamic a mover um

1034
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: as either one of those guys, which is where Hearns

1035
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: comes in, because Herns is more of a body receiver

1036
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: as opposed to a speed guy's gonna beat you. Uh,

1037
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't create a lot of separation, which I don't

1038
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: think Karns does either. I think both crab Tree and

1039
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: Thomas might a certainly Crabtree in his prime, so to speak,

1040
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: created more separation just off athletic movement. But I certainly

1041
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: think Gallup in the right system could be something else.

1042
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another guy I liked a lot is Uh,

1043
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: do you want skill position or just anybody? Just give

1044
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: me anybody man offensive Brandon Smith's offensive guard from Auburn.

1045
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Watch a lot of guard. By the way, I think

1046
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: Quentin Ulson is the best player in this in this draft,

1047
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't want the real position is. I don't care

1048
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: what his position is. He is the best player in

1049
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: this draft is that he is an absolute surefire ten

1050
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: year pro bowler if he stays healthy. Damn. So here

1051
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: you go. So I'll start with that because I think

1052
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: when we when James and I were talking, I think

1053
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned James best player in this draft class. I

1054
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: think it's quite Nelson, and I don't really expecticularly close.

1055
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: He's the only guy in your checks all the necessary

1056
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: boxes at his position at a super plus level. Well

1057
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: business movement, attitude, I mean attitude or lending Steve Hushinson.

1058
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: He just wants to go out there and kill people

1059
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: and he does it technically. That he's everything you want

1060
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: in the guard. Uh. The Twitter has told me that

1061
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley is a once in a generation running back,

1062
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: sort of like Leonard four nett Or or is Zekiel

1063
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: Elliott or Todd Gurley or named them. Generations are coming

1064
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: in and out pretty quick. Um, you know, I think

1065
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: he is the top back obviously, what is a very

1066
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: deep class. Do you feel like he is so far

1067
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: head and shoulders above everybody over the next closest guy,

1068
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: that he is a top five pick versus maybe somebody

1069
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: going late first or early second round. I think again,

1070
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: you're going to need the right system for him. I

1071
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: think with se Kwon Berkley, you have a lot of

1072
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: splash plays, a lot of spectacular plays. I think you

1073
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: also have a lot of zero to one to minus

1074
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: one to minus two yard plays. I see him get

1075
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: stuffed a lot. Um, and I would I mean, depending

1076
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: on system. If I were in Carolina or Jacksonville or

1077
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: Seattle or the Rams and I needed a franchise back,

1078
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: I might go back to Darius Guysen tape because he

1079
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: played injured last year and everyone said always slow when

1080
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: he was hurt. Um, I go back to his teen

1081
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: tape and I see Marshall manch Jr. Same liral movement,

1082
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: steam ability to break contact. He's he's really impressive. Um.

1083
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: You know Barkley when he's blocked for I think is

1084
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: the best running back in this class. But if you

1085
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: need a running back who transcends dad blocking and hello Seattle,

1086
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to left him? Is that all that's

1087
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: change in your lying coach is gonna do it? You

1088
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: might want to reevaluate how you take players. Um. A

1089
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: couple of guys actually that I'm on my sleeper list,

1090
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Rasha Penny from San Diego State. I talked about him,

1091
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: but I don't think they talked about him enough. I

1092
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: mean eleven about two twenty or tell a strength of

1093
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: opponent or this or that, and I hear he doesn't

1094
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: have burst, and I see burst. I hear he can't

1095
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: break tackles, and I said, I know a pro football

1096
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: focuses elusive reading. I think he was number one. Um,

1097
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a more powerful Darren Sprowles, can do

1098
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: stuff out of the backfield. And one guy I'm really

1099
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: surprised more people aren't talking about his nineteen hind's from

1100
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: North Carolina State. When you look at Kareem Hunt, when

1101
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: you look at Alvin Kamara, when you look at Jerick McKinnon,

1102
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: who just got a pretty monstrous contract in San Francisco,

1103
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: then need for satellite running backs is enormous. And I

1104
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: think he's probably the best one in this class. I'm

1105
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna go and watch him a little bit more. You know,

1106
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: Kon Barkley is impressive, but I would struggle the one

1107
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: guy in this class that I think elevates himself to

1108
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: uh almost a level of hyperboleus Quenton Nelson. That's pretty

1109
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: much it. There you go. Doug Ferrar from Bleacher Report.

1110
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: Follow him on Twitter at b our Underscore Doug Ferrar.

1111
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Find his work on Bleacher Report as well. Doug, we

1112
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on the show man. Thanks gentlemen. Thanks

1113
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Doug Ferrar. Wow dropping knowledge all over the place. That

1114
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: was great stuff, Um, gentlemen, And again I love getting

1115
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: these guys in because you get a different perspective from

1116
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: the from the stuff that you see, Um, maybe you

1117
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: hear normally on this podcast as well. A lot to

1118
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: kind of decompress from there, Matt Harmon, Maybe a couple

1119
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: of takeaways from what you heard from Doug. Yeah, with

1120
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, Donald, like I said, is a fascinating one.

1121
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting to hear somebody kind of have more

1122
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: of I don't know if contrarian view is is the

1123
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: right way to put it. But more critical, yeah, more critical,

1124
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: just more critical than you normally get from Donald, because

1125
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, he does seem to be the guy

1126
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: in this in this class that doesn't get picked apart

1127
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: a ton. And it's also worth remembering he's super young.

1128
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: I guess I think he'll if he starts Week one,

1129
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: he'll be the youngest quarterback to ever start ever. I'm

1130
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: pretty sure just he just turned twenty, I believe. Yeah, Yeah,

1131
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: he's he's mad young. Uh. The only time I feel

1132
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: like I've seen anybody really criticize him, and this was

1133
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: like I think last summer coming into this year was

1134
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: there's like a random NFC personnel person that said he

1135
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: has a bad face and he's over raping. Honestly, he

1136
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: has a funny look. He is a funny looking I'll

1137
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: have to hang on, let me find it because I'm

1138
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: pretty I don't remember exactly. And actually he's twenty right now.

1139
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: He will turn twenty one in June. That's crazy. So

1140
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: that's um. So you mean critical, it's not, you know,

1141
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: other than all the U s c alum's here in

1142
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: our building who are grousing after a loss, perhaps on

1143
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: a Monday or that's exactly right. No, but I mean

1144
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: from a scoutic perspective, I mean, come on, people, Uh,

1145
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: the USC guys love them too. Yeah, look you're a

1146
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: U Yeah no, but really I I like you, James.

1147
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: I look at the turnovers and I say, that is

1148
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: immediately a problem. Huge and it's it was frustrating as

1149
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: a fan to watch, but huge problem. But just as

1150
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: Doug mentioned, there would be those moments when he would

1151
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: make a certain throw and you're like, this guy really

1152
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: is the number one overall pick I remember when he

1153
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: came onto the scene and again just a couple of

1154
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago or less than that. Uh,

1155
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: he came in and really seemed to transform that USC offense.

1156
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: Who was the starter right before him, uh Max Brown,

1157
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: Max Brown, and they waited for some reason, I believe. Yeah.

1158
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: Um yeah. It's funny though, because the guy that I

1159
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: think honestly is the best quarterback in this draft, and

1160
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: I think sort of touched on it. I think it's

1161
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. I mean, I think he's the guy. And

1162
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: all these guys have flaws, and they all they certainly

1163
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: all need to be in a situation that would fit

1164
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: their talents best. But I think Josh Rosen's the best

1165
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft, and I think it's weird that

1166
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: the reason he gets knocked is because dude has opinions

1167
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: on things. I mean, that's really That's really the reason

1168
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: people don't like it. It's just dude has opinions on things,

1169
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: and maybe they don't jibe with the popular opinion a lot.

1170
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, that doesn't that an't impact his ability to

1171
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: throw a football. Look, Jim Morrow was former U c

1172
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: l A coaches on our network and he kind of

1173
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: hedgeted a bit by saying, like, I think blue you know,

1174
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: Donald is more blue collar, which, by the way, from

1175
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: darn from Orange County, Like, that's not that's not blue collars.

1176
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: I've been the Capistrano Beach, lovely place, lovely note, not

1177
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: at all. So he said he was more blue collar,

1178
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: better fit for Cleveland, whatever, But it was still a

1179
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: little striking to hear. You know, Rosen's u c l

1180
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: A u c l A coach not come out and say, oh, yeah,

1181
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: Brown should take rosa number one question. I've had this, Yeah, yeah,

1182
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: it's because their family friends. He doesn't want to see

1183
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: his boy go to Cleveland. Come on, bro, or isn't

1184
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: that Jim Moore is kind of a jerk sometimes. I

1185
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to say it, but I think I think, well, look,

1186
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: there is some of that going on. But I mean

1187
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: their family friends, dude, I mean he's protecting his his guy. Um,

1188
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: if I had, if I had a guess, I think

1189
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: he's protecting his guy. He doesn't want his guy to

1190
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: go to Cleveland. Come on, bro, you know there's gonna

1191
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: be a coaching change there at some point. It's gonna

1192
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: be a lot, it's gonna be tumultuous. I mean, I

1193
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna side with Marcus

1194
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: on this one and we'll talk about. But anyway, So

1195
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: back to the Donald thing, it wasn't Yahoo Yahoo. Sports

1196
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: column columnist Charles Robinson put a post out in December

1197
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: with a quote from an NFC personal men back in

1198
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: June on Sam Donald. Uh, he said, you can have

1199
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: him loopy motion, bad faced face, bad face was Eli

1200
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Manning never would have been right. But that's so that

1201
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: was back in June. So at the point being Donald,

1202
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: it was interested here Doug have kind of a more

1203
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: critical view of Donald. I think he said all the

1204
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: right things about Lamar. I I putting a piece out

1205
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: today on the fatal flaw for every single team in

1206
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: the NFL UM heading into the NFL drafting for Jacksonville,

1207
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: I said, obviously, it's just the passing game. Um, I

1208
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: agree that Blake Bortles is like kind of the twentieth

1209
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the NFL. UM but I do, and

1210
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: I said that their solution to that would be to somehow.

1211
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that Lamar Jackson is gonna fall to

1212
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: their first round pick. I I tend to doubt it,

1213
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: but if he did, I think he should be the

1214
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: auto pick there. Because you can fall, you think you'll

1215
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: fall all the way to the end of the first round, though,

1216
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, and maybe like Jacksonville is one

1217
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: of these teams, they could be like a sneaky trade

1218
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: up for a guy like Lamar Jackson because you look

1219
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: at their roster and they really don't have very many

1220
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: needs on defense. They're biggest, biggest question is just how

1221
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: are we going to get all these guys? Are we

1222
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: gonna pay all these guys when that time comes? They

1223
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: gotta hey the piper at some point, But yeah, this

1224
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: year is not that year. Not but probably next year

1225
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: guys like Yannick and Goquay will be up. Miles jack

1226
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: might be up. They already lost like Aaron Colvin that

1227
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: those those those bills are gonna start, I mean, Jalen

1228
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: Ramsey eventually will be up for a big contract. Eventually,

1229
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to pay that. Right now, they're not.

1230
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: And on offense, they have for net installed, they have

1231
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: their offensive line kind of beefing up David. They sunk

1232
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: some money and resources into the skilled position players they've got.

1233
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: Even Blake Bortles is still relatively reasonable contract. Oh he's

1234
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: I think he's not. He's not even top twenty right

1235
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: now in guaranteed money at the quarterback position. Just once

1236
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: again going back to what a great contract that was

1237
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. They can eat six and a half million

1238
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: dollars if they cut him next year, which is pretty

1239
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: much nothing. Um So I think that would be an

1240
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: ideal spot for Lamar Jackson. And if I'm Jacksonville, I'd

1241
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: i'd get aggressive and and got him. Make sure you

1242
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: get him. I think that because again, they just don't

1243
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: have very many holes. They can sacrifice a first round

1244
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: pick this year, maybe a first next ye year, or

1245
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, a second third whatever, like what have you.

1246
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: I think there are sneaky teams to try trying to

1247
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: get up there. All right, there you go? All right?

1248
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: Should we close out the show with a round of

1249
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: daily DAPs, steps steps, dog bites and dipping steps steps.

1250
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, if you like creepy rabbits, this movie is

1251
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: for you. Deer is down there. This is why I

1252
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: love this group of guys. Are like, hey, well well done,

1253
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: James and Christina. Yeah, you guys did good work, well done.

1254
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Those I heard I heard like DAPs, and

1255
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, we started right right, we

1256
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: have a dropped exactly, So there you go. Um, let's

1257
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: go around the horn. MGM. I got Marcus Grant, will

1258
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: we shall I'll start with you, David Well. I have

1259
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: I have mentioned on this podcast before my my fandom

1260
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: for Donald Glover and all the stuffime who does. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's not fair that one dude can be this down

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01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: right like, it's not fair spread the wealth dog? Yeah, okay,

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01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: so you're funny. He's a good actor, he can write,

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01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: he can rap. I mean, bro, that's not cool, like

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01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: share the wealth a little bit. They cannot beat Michael

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01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: Vigan a footrace. Th still there you goom, But you

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01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: know there was there was talk, not talk. I mean,

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01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: there was a a Deadpool animated series that was in

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: the works. Donald Glover and his brother Stephen were working

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: with FX. They're gonna do a Deadpool animated series. Donald

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: Glover's on a t L right correct, which is on

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01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: UM for those that aren't hip on the ling. Sorry. Uh.

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01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason they pulled the plug on the series.

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: They gave the vague creative differences whatever. Um. I know

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01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: there was some talk that maybe it fell apart because

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01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: because Donald was too busy doing so many different things. Uh,

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01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: and that was why the show fell apart, that's why

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01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: it was canceled whatever. Well, this morning or maybe late

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01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: last night, on his Twitter feed, he tweeted out in

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01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: a thread a script for Did he actually tweet out

1281
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: the actual script of it? It's like screenshots of It's

1282
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: like fifteen pages of the script of what would have

1283
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,959
Speaker 1: been or at least what he says would have been

1284
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: the season finale. And it was the finale too, not

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01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: even the first episode of first it was the finale

1286
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: of Deadpool. Um, it's amazing, it's hilarious, it's very topical,

1287
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: it's very timely in terms of like a lot of

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01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: the things. But but it's in that Deadpool styler if

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01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: you if you have read the comments or if you

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01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: saw the movie even where it's just that that kind

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: of smartass style that Deadpool has um breaking the fourth

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01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: wall and just just generally being a smartass. It's so

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: well done. I said, it's it's a longer thread, it's

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01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: fifteen page script, but it is worth your time to

1295
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: go read it. I wonder what would and then be

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01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: sad that we're not going to get an actual seriously,

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01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like what actually happened there?

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01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like that'd be perfect for Netflix,

1299
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: by the way. That way you can wouldn't be great.

1300
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: That way you can keep in the cursing stuff, you know,

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: and keep it bloody. Although they have those seems to

1302
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: be so stringent on the cursy. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

1303
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: That's true. And and actually they they're okay with blood too.

1304
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I would be I wouldn't mind seeing

1305
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of Donald Glover's dead Pool on Netflix.

1306
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: Who's gonna say no to that? I was gonna say

1307
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: no to that. Gosh, well I have to actually one.

1308
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: You started off with zero, right, and then it all

1309
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: just came to me. I forgot. I mean, I'm so forgetful.

1310
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: But the only thing I can remember in this life

1311
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: is like dates, like all right, on this day, this

1312
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: is a thing that's happening, or this I thought, you've

1313
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: just been with girls. I know what I'm supposed to

1314
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: be there, but I don't know or when they So

1315
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: I remember dates like when things happened and stats. That's it.

1316
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: That's it. Everything else even not even close. It's gonna

1317
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: be gone. Um. But so this weekend I saw a

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01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 1: great movie Under the Rate Are Card Armorgeddon wow, wow,

1319
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: only twenty years late, right, but it was awesome. I'm

1320
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: glad I finally watched it. Was really just I mean,

1321
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: it's a very kind of stupid movie. Is it Ben

1322
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: Affleck's best movie? I don't know about that. I mean

1323
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: there's Batman Verus Superman, Okay, so that I mean, look

1324
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: a look at Ben Affleck's movies. I'm not that far off.

1325
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: It's definitely the top three. That's probably worth a discussion.

1326
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: But it's a great movie. Glad I finally caught it. It

1327
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: It was funny because I'm like, yeah, I have you know,

1328
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: I already know how this ends. Well since Earth still exists.

1329
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of a documentary and you know what's stupid.

1330
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 1: But so I watched this with my girlfriend, Like there

1331
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: are a couple of times when she's like like I

1332
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: can't believe that, Like that's not believable when that movie girl,

1333
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: the whole movie and the home and you know, I

1334
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: talked about this with Gilhart too, and he's like, yeah,

1335
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: there's some parts that really stretched the Like there's some

1336
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: plot holes and I'm like, movie the spaceship on an

1337
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: asteroids using a new kid to set the planet, why

1338
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: are you too? Like quorrying about plot hole. There was

1339
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: not to jump in here, but there was an interesting

1340
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: story where Affleck was interviewed about the making and during

1341
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: the filming process, he raised his hand and asked the director,

1342
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, why is this story? Like right, yeah, Michael By,

1343
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: why why why is the story about taking you guys

1344
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: who run an oil rig and training the astronauts? Wouldn't

1345
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: be easier just to teach astronauts to run an oil

1346
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: rig and be dropped? And the response was shut up

1347
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: and say your line. I think, shut the f up.

1348
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, so, but it tries me not some people

1349
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: do that with movies. It's like, what what the hell

1350
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: are you looking for? Like why does this need to

1351
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: check all the believable box damn rocket on an asteroid?

1352
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: Like suspend a little bit of like disbelief here, it's

1353
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: a freaking movie. Anyways, that's my one DAP may it

1354
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it's actually a DAPT But my second one?

1355
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: What the hell is my second one? Oh? Right, So

1356
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: I've been going through this. Another thing fired up. Another

1357
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: thing I've been frustrated about was my refrigerator. My apartments

1358
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: has been broken. It's broken. Yeah, it was not like

1359
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: and you know how I know because the things and

1360
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: it weren't cold. You'd like go to grab a glass

1361
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: of beer, and I'm like, that doesn't feel right. So

1362
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: I've been I've been dealing with that for probably about

1363
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: a week and a half. I got I got to

1364
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: hit him with the is your refrigerator reading yeah, and

1365
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: I got to finally respond yes, no thanks Anti dap

1366
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: to the rats that I'm renting that apartment. Will not

1367
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: be going back to that company again after this lease

1368
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: is over. But daily DAPs to UH Eastern European name

1369
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: man named Alex who came in fixed my UH fridge

1370
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: yesterday morning, Um, after you were supposed to do it Monday.

1371
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: But we'll leave that. We'll leave that beer. Like I

1372
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: could not tell you how happy I was to come

1373
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: home from work yesterday after this got fixed in the

1374
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: morning and have a cold beer. I don't know, just

1375
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: to have the food because have to like, like seriously,

1376
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: I pulled out how long were you out the refrigerator,

1377
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: like a like a week and a half. Oh my god.

1378
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: So it's not that it was like not cold, It

1379
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: just wasn't cold enough. Just wasn't cold enough. Yeah, like

1380
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: half of the ice trays were frozen in the other

1381
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: half were not things like that. And it was great too,

1382
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: perfect timing because it broke right as my dad came

1383
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: out to stay with me, and I'm like, oh, this

1384
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: is wonderful timing. Um so yeah, but again, daily deaths

1385
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: to uh Alex the repair guy. There you go, he

1386
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: got food made my life much much easier. I like it.

1387
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: Producer Christina, what do you got? Well, I know I'm

1388
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: very late to join the train, but um, Breaking Bad

1389
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: I just was convinced to start. I have been plowing

1390
01:12:50,320 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: through it. Just started the last one episodes of this.

1391
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: She has watched an embarrassing amount Breaking Bad episodes. Yeah,

1392
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: they get you from the word go. Man, that first

1393
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: episode is a killer. I just started the last season

1394
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: and I'm trying not to watch every episode in one night.

1395
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 1: But it's hard. Now that you're going to be finished

1396
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: with that. We've got to get you over to Better

1397
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: Call Soul. Better Call, So I haven't. I haven't watched

1398
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: Better every time. Like whenever you end an episode, it'll

1399
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: say like, here's your recommended that's like the top frac

1400
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: you need to get the Better Call sol Okay, so

1401
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: just book yourself. Another couple of seasons that a couple

1402
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: of seasons to that, so you're oh my god, wow,

1403
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: you went through a bunch of episodes, So you're not

1404
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: one of those people that's like, it was really slow

1405
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: to start and I couldn't get it now. I mean,

1406
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: I also hate those kind of people that are like,

1407
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: it'll be slow to start, but you just gotta power through.

1408
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: Like I don't like the people who like that's how

1409
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: they introduce a show to you say like, oh, it's

1410
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: a great series, first couple of episodes kind of suck,

1411
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: but just get through it. Like I hate that, So

1412
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: no one. I don't think I didn't either, but I've

1413
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: heard people say that. I heard a few people say that,

1414
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't originally explained to me that way. So

1415
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is great, Like, but also

1416
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: shows have to build a world and introduce characters. Well

1417
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: we definitely yeah, I mean spoiler alert here, but at

1418
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: the end of the first episode, the guys jumping out

1419
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: of an RV completely naked and it is underwear in

1420
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 1: the middle. That's pretty thrilling. How does this I mean, definitely,

1421
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: in context of the rest of the series, it gets

1422
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: to be out more outrageous especially now when it's like

1423
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: big thing after big thing after big things. Right. But

1424
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: I think you know what Christine and I have both

1425
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: hit on here is that people are stupid. Way the

1426
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: way people consume very good media are very dumb, very dumb,

1427
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: and they're ruining for the rest of us. And frankly,

1428
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: I won't stand for it anymore. I think you will. Okay,

1429
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: I have a daily dap here for a white rap

1430
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: by the name of Little Dickie. I enjoy a little bit,

1431
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: enjoyed his work. I found this guy on YouTube, so

1432
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: also another shock for the call me in here. But no,

1433
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: he has a new song out. It's called Freaky Friday

1434
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: featuring Chris Brown. The concept of the video, as you

1435
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: can tell from the title, is that he switches bodies.

1436
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: Little Dickie switches bodies with Chris Brown and then they

1437
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: proceed uh to sing about it. And Chris Brown, let

1438
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: me just tell you, he sells this thing. Man. This

1439
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: video is a maze balls. If you have not seen

1440
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: Little Dickie's Freaky Friday freaching Chris Brown, you have not lived.

1441
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: It's a great it's a great video, it's a good song,

1442
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: but the video itself is awesome. Man. Uh. It also

1443
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: cut me down the Little Dickey uh black hole and

1444
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: uh and I saw his video. Um it's called Save

1445
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: that Money featuring Fettie Wop. Is that the one where

1446
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: they made they made a whole video for like as

1447
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 1: little as possible. He spent basically promised people they're different. Yeah,

1448
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: that was pretty good. It was great. It was great

1449
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: Save that Money by Little Dickie as well, featuring Whomp

1450
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: and Rich Home Kual. It's like, Okay, these are parents

1451
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: that I would not have thought of, uh for Little Dickie.

1452
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: But no, I I went down that black hole and

1453
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: uh and spent a good hour looking at that stuff too.

1454
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: So there you go, Little Dickie, You're daily DAP. That's

1455
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna close out your show. Big thank you to Doug

1456
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: Ferrar for joining us as well, but for Matt Harmon,

1457
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: for MG my guy, Marcus Grant, producer, Christina I am

1458
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: James go. We'll catch your later. I