Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 1: All Right, ladies, we are back. I missed you. I know.
Speaker 2: I got the best text message from Kristen about what
Speaker 2: it was, just like, what has happened?
Speaker 1: You said?
Speaker 2: He said, how's I'm gonna I'm actually gonna post it.
Speaker 2: I saved it. I took a picture of it, and
Speaker 2: she goes, hey, PF, how's Bahamas? And all I said
Speaker 2: was hah.
Speaker 1: And then I go.
Speaker 2: That's a perfect and she goes, oh, no, is it
Speaker 2: not good? And I'm like, well, I'm not there.
Speaker 1: I'm not there.
Speaker 3: One overseas a day one comes on earlier. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: I go for it.
Speaker 1: Okay, how is the pause? I guess your day?
Speaker 2: Catherine knows because she's on the group message with my
Speaker 2: manager and agent, and so we okay. At about three
Speaker 2: ish and we got to the hotel or it's not
Speaker 2: even a hotel, it's they're like little bungalows, so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Got there around four ish and uh yeah, we got
Speaker 2: We're on we're on the beach and we're getting ready
Speaker 2: for dinner. We go to dinner and I don't like
Speaker 2: having the phone at the table, but it was just
Speaker 2: kind of on my chair and I picked it up.
Speaker 2: And the group chat is called Badass Babes. So it's
Speaker 2: my two managers, Catherine and then my agent, and I'm like, why.
Speaker 1: Are they texting me on a Sunday? And it was
Speaker 1: kind of late.
Speaker 2: It was late, well, it was well, it was like
Speaker 2: East Coast, like, yeah.
Speaker 4: I was thinking it was a little bit like maybe
Speaker 4: I didn't see it till later because I'm everything like damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was maybe like nine o'clock Eastern time, and they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: you're getting an offer on a movie, and I'm like, oh, yay,
Speaker 2: I'm so excited, Like I'm so excited. I'm like awesome, amazing.
Speaker 4: And I really, I have to say, from my point
Speaker 4: of view at this point, I could tell you hadn't
Speaker 4: read the whole thing yet because of how much excitement.
Speaker 1: But like with the details, like.
Speaker 2: With the dates, well, I didn't seen the dates yet.
Speaker 4: Oh they were oh well they had at some point
Speaker 4: put it and then you were like wait what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just saw the one thing and then
Speaker 2: they said Ina and it were pumped because you got
Speaker 2: a movie. I'm pumped right. Well, this was the funny
Speaker 2: piece of it right. So I'm that Sunday, like before
Speaker 2: we went to dinner, I just did a little I
Speaker 2: was like watching the sunset go down. And at that point,
Speaker 2: I have so many projects kind of up in the air.
Speaker 2: When are things going to be going? When are they not?
Speaker 2: What's happening whatever? And so I said a little prayer
Speaker 2: to God and just said, hey, if you know, just
Speaker 2: continue to show me that I'm on the right path
Speaker 2: and things are you know, things are going the way
Speaker 2: they I'm doing the right thing. And if one of
Speaker 2: these things could just finally land would be awesome, because
Speaker 2: I just have waiting for a few of the other ones.
Speaker 2: And I didn't want it that quick. He answered it
Speaker 2: quite quick, and so yeah, So then my my agent
Speaker 2: was like, you have to be in West Virginia on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and what day is this? This is Sunday night. Yikes,
Speaker 2: And I said, I'm in the Bahamas with my get
Speaker 2: away because again, we haven't had a true get away
Speaker 2: since our honeymoon, because you know, we can't count any
Speaker 2: of the work ones because we're technically working, so I
Speaker 2: don't count that as a true unplug and get away.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, we really were waiting for this Dhammas.
Speaker 2: I was so I was we needed it. I needed it,
Speaker 2: and and I think what the bummer was is I
Speaker 2: really wanted to just completely unplug from everything and have
Speaker 2: zero stress, because that's just how I've been. I've been
Speaker 2: feeling so stressed and anxious and bear like, and so
Speaker 2: I just wanted to chill.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 2: That was what bummed me the most, because that night,
Speaker 2: it was my excitement of relaxing was a way stressing.
Speaker 2: I immediately go anxious, what do I do? What decision
Speaker 2: do I make?
Speaker 1: Do I do this?
Speaker 2: Do I not do it? And now I'm having to
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do any work too, because I
Speaker 2: just wanted to have three days of just nothing, just
Speaker 2: to relax and be present with my husband and don't
Speaker 2: do any work and not in the phone. And so
Speaker 2: that was a bummer because I didn't get to have
Speaker 2: that unplug and so then I was anxious all night,
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do. Then Monday, I'm reading the
Speaker 2: script and that was another thing too. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to not do a good job. This is
Speaker 2: last minute. I don't have a lot of time to memorize,
Speaker 2: and I but I'm like, how do I get home
Speaker 2: and then I've got the kids the second part of
Speaker 2: spring break, and we had plans to go to Chattanooga
Speaker 2: and or Pigeon Forge and hang out with them, and
Speaker 2: so it was just a very it was kind of
Speaker 2: a logistical nightmare. But my managers and I was kept
Speaker 2: telling Alan, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do it. I'm not going to do it. I
Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, I don't want to cut
Speaker 2: our trip short. But he was just like, you're doing it,
Speaker 2: Like you're not not doing it, like absolutely, go do it.
Speaker 2: And so, I mean, it was it was hard to
Speaker 2: turn down. But the main reason why I took it
Speaker 2: was because it's a it was a way different role.
Speaker 2: If it was just like the wife of somebody or
Speaker 2: playing the you know, typical role, I probably wouldn't have
Speaker 2: taken it, just because like why, I've done that before.
Speaker 2: But this my managers I called them and she was like,
Speaker 2: I really, we would really like for you to take this.
Speaker 2: This would be something great for the real you don't
Speaker 2: usually play this part. And they they kind of made
Speaker 2: their case for it, and I'm like you're you're right,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, so and it was only four full
Speaker 2: filming days. So I mean, how great is that?
Speaker 1: Incredible?
Speaker 2: Get to work with you know, Steve Gutenberg, who's fantastic,
Speaker 2: and it was. It was great. It was just logistical,
Speaker 2: logistically kind of crazy. I'm like, all right, well we
Speaker 2: I They're like, can you fly from the Bahamas to
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh And I'm like, I don't have anything for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Bis and just fly straight, fly straight there.
Speaker 2: I'm that And then I'm like, I need to figure out,
Speaker 2: Like you guys, I've got the kids. I have to
Speaker 2: go get the kids.
Speaker 3: Also for me, I think like the older I get
Speaker 3: like home is so centering that no matter what, I
Speaker 3: just need a pit stop.
Speaker 1: Yeah just for a second. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's also like I'm big on I've got all
Speaker 2: my supplements.
Speaker 1: I only have.
Speaker 2: I only took so many of my things, and I
Speaker 2: don't want to be five days without all of the
Speaker 2: stuff that I take. And so there was there was
Speaker 2: or the worst jeans or something that wasn't some sort
Speaker 2: of and flow floral dress and so yeah, so I
Speaker 2: we figured it out where we had one full day
Speaker 2: in the Bahamas on that Monday, and then Tuesday we
Speaker 2: left and flew. We had two stops and then we
Speaker 2: flew in Nashville, and the only way to get us
Speaker 2: to Nashville was a private out, but the production handled
Speaker 2: that because you know, it's really on them, like if
Speaker 2: you want me there.
Speaker 1: Because they wanted Tuesday night.
Speaker 3: I want to be.
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, but I am filming on Wednesday, so I
Speaker 2: had to be there Tuesday night. So I'm like, the
Speaker 2: only possible way is if I take the first flight
Speaker 2: out of the Bahamas on Tuesday, go through Charlotte, then
Speaker 2: Charlotte to Nashville, and then have two hours to gather
Speaker 2: the kids, pack bags, repack, and you know, get on
Speaker 2: a planet. But there's no flights out, there's there's no
Speaker 2: one way is to Morgantown. You got to either stop,
Speaker 2: you got to go to Pittsburgh, but that those flights
Speaker 2: were already gone, so and then drive an hour and
Speaker 2: a half to Morgantown. So I'm like, the only way
Speaker 2: is if we get a private out. So we they have.
Speaker 2: They had a company, the production company, so they sent
Speaker 2: us a little plane and put the family only on
Speaker 2: the plane and we all went. But it was also
Speaker 2: for me. I wanted the kids to have fun too,
Speaker 2: so I just studied super hard on the two days
Speaker 2: that I was where it was a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 2: and those three days. So that way, I took the
Speaker 2: kids to Nema Colon, which is like the Bessel Resort
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, and I just like full focus, just was
Speaker 2: like on the kids because I also wanted them to
Speaker 2: have fun too, because they thought we were going to
Speaker 2: the aquarium and you know, or Dollywood or whatever. So
Speaker 2: but this was they had so much fun and that
Speaker 2: made me really happy and there was a really good
Speaker 2: connection time. So all in all it worked out. Everything
Speaker 2: was great, and then we got back on Tuesday night.
Speaker 2: So when we landed yesterday, I said, hey, babe, a
Speaker 2: week ago we were leaving the Bahamas and then all.
Speaker 1: The men also getting to the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but it was so fun. I mean that's
Speaker 2: and that's the thing. It's you know, things like that
Speaker 2: come up usually not that last minute. But it was
Speaker 2: a good role, good opportunity, and I've like the most
Speaker 2: supportive husband ever who just was like, yep, we're going
Speaker 2: and next time the prayer will be, Hey, God, will
Speaker 2: you let me know him on the right path. After Wednesday, yeah,
Speaker 2: just like give me a couple of days.
Speaker 4: I know, he's like, hey, you asked for this, this
Speaker 4: is how this works sometimes.
Speaker 1: Which that was crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean I've never been I've never yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: for you, I've never seen you have to do that.
Speaker 1: That was crazy.
Speaker 3: Weet know anything about the role or the movie.
Speaker 2: So I can't share everything, but I can share that
Speaker 2: it's a true story. Okay, it's a really messed up
Speaker 2: true story. It's sad. I mean it's and it's very
Speaker 2: and my character is you know, throughout the movie. Again,
Speaker 2: I've only worked four full days, so it's not it's
Speaker 2: weird because this movie is like even Steve only works
Speaker 2: five days, and it's kind of all broken up into
Speaker 2: just different people and characters. But my character was one
Speaker 2: of the people that helped solved this missing true story murder.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna oh murder.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's it's a really good uh. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just so messed up, so messed up. But I
Speaker 2: got to work with all the people that I worked
Speaker 2: up in gas Lit and it was just great to
Speaker 2: see everybody again and do that. But it'll come out,
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 1: In June. Oh wow, we are fast turn around Wow yep, Okay.
Speaker 4: I think fast about this movie. Yeah, so I'm excited
Speaker 4: for you. I hate that you had to leave Bahamas,
Speaker 4: but I just got so excited for you because I
Speaker 4: know you just like you said, wanted something to land
Speaker 4: and like, yes, it was quick turnaround, but like how exciting,
Speaker 4: Like it's great you got it, went for it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did a great job.
Speaker 3: I also get excited when you get to do things
Speaker 3: that aren't typical things you done say like, I get
Speaker 3: really too. My name is Lena Coy. I'm a pearl
Speaker 3: and probation officer in the Missouri Department. My girl, I
Speaker 3: probation officer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will say there was a piece of
Speaker 2: me that was worried because it's not something typical that
Speaker 2: comes like natural to me. So I just hope it
Speaker 2: turned out good because I was still trying to learn
Speaker 2: the lines too, because I come I like to be
Speaker 2: overly prepared. Even I told the script supervisor said, you
Speaker 2: know me, I usually have my tabs, I've got my folder,
Speaker 2: I've got I mean, I know my lines weeks before
Speaker 2: and this is a day before. So and I still
Speaker 2: didn't have to call out for a line, which I
Speaker 2: was very Oh wow, yeah I.
Speaker 1: Know, so did you study all day on Monday at
Speaker 1: your day and Bama.
Speaker 2: So what I looked. I glanced at it and I said,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give myself the day to just enjoy
Speaker 2: today good. And on Tuesday I'm the flight home. I
Speaker 2: will study like a madman. And then what I did
Speaker 2: was I studied all my stuff for Wednesday scene. And
Speaker 2: then Wednesday when I'm working. You know how it's like
Speaker 2: you have so much time on set, So I just
Speaker 2: studied like crazy, and I had really staty you know,
Speaker 2: the same girl like said, will you read these lines?
Speaker 2: I script supervisors running onlines on repeat, and because it's
Speaker 2: like this stuff doesn't come natural to me, this verbiage, and.
Speaker 1: We still have to have time to learn it, like
Speaker 1: they have to understand that.
Speaker 3: Like I don't even remember why I walk into a
Speaker 3: room anymore, and you have to remember lines.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: And Marty the director, she was, you know, She's like,
Speaker 2: I mean we could use Q cards. I was like, Marty,
Speaker 2: I just had hides. I was, I would never do that. Ever, meanwhile,
Speaker 2: I'm like grabbing the marker and were never. I was like,
Speaker 2: I got it, I'll do it. I just like you know,
Speaker 2: me and Catherine this is just who I am. I
Speaker 2: get really like like overwhelmed, and then it's go time.
Speaker 2: Yeah then I can just do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but it was so fun. I love you guys,
Speaker 2: thanks for asking. A great time. Kids had fun. We
Speaker 2: had an amazing time at Nemicole and and lots of
Speaker 2: memories were made, so it was fun.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it's DJ Holmes and Amy Roeboch. Don't
Speaker 1: Morning Run every weekday morning Monday through Friday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be covering the biggest stories, everything you need
Speaker 6: to know, breaking news, politics, pop culture on our daily podcast,
Speaker 6: Morning Run, And of course it has a little bit
Speaker 6: of our own personal flare to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. Make sure to subscribe now, so every
Speaker 1: day when you wake up, you've got the Morning Run
Speaker 1: waiting for you.
Speaker 6: Listen to Morning Run wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 4: So, were you always supposed to have the kids? Who
Speaker 4: was supposed to have the kids for spring break?
Speaker 2: So technically technically me, but I asked Mike because in
Speaker 2: the Parenting Planet goes fall break and then spring break,
Speaker 2: and then it goes fall break and spring break. So
Speaker 2: that's back to back vacation times, and so there's no
Speaker 2: way you can really start a tradition with that, and
Speaker 2: it's a lot of money to go trip then trip,
Speaker 2: you know, a couple months later. So I said, hey,
Speaker 2: can we start doing it where you have spring break
Speaker 2: every year and I have fall break every year? So
Speaker 2: that way we both have but it's not double each time.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'd like to start making a thing where,
Speaker 2: you know, I take the kids ear every fall break
Speaker 2: or make a make a what's that called? Yeah, And
Speaker 2: so he agreed to that. He goes, but he said,
Speaker 2: can we split this spring break because I already have
Speaker 2: plans to go out of town? And I said, absolutely, gotcha.
Speaker 2: So he was going to take the front end, and
Speaker 2: then I was taking back. And so when I texted
Speaker 2: him the Bahamas, I said, hey, I got a movie role.
Speaker 2: Are you still leaving out of town? And he said yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, sorry, and I was like, no, it's not
Speaker 2: not on you, it's okay. Are you then cool with
Speaker 2: me taking the kids? They're going to miss school on
Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday, you know, and he was he was,
Speaker 2: you know, helpful in the fact where he said, you know,
Speaker 2: I could always come get them on Monday. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's just one day. You know, so thanks, but so gotcha. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well that worked out.
Speaker 4: I didn't know if y'all had to like change what
Speaker 4: y'all had planned or how that worked out or whatever,
Speaker 4: but that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, you went with coast I did. Was
Speaker 1: it fun? It was fun.
Speaker 4: It was a little chilli and it rained like four
Speaker 4: days in California.
Speaker 1: Go figure. I did say California isn't warm. I knew
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be warm.
Speaker 4: And here's the deal, it would have been beautiful and
Speaker 4: perfect had it not been stormy, stormy and rainy, because
Speaker 4: like the days that it wasn't or when the sun
Speaker 4: would even partially come out and it wasn't raining, it
Speaker 4: was like exactly what we kind of expected and wanted.
Speaker 4: But again, we made the most of it. It was fine,
Speaker 4: It was great. There were things that we didn't get
Speaker 4: to do because of the weather that we had planned,
Speaker 4: but like what we were going to go whale watching
Speaker 4: with that guy canceled. We were going to do kayaks
Speaker 4: and La Joya, but we thought better of that choice
Speaker 4: because the water was I was like, I will, and
Speaker 4: then we saw them the day we were supposed to go,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I would have died. I would
Speaker 4: have fallen. Like it was the just the you know,
Speaker 4: the weather. It was just the waves were big, and
Speaker 4: I was like I never could have done it. So
Speaker 4: we just kind of pivoted and did different stuff and
Speaker 4: it was great. You know, it's so different now with
Speaker 4: teenagers too, and like what they want to do, what
Speaker 4: they like to do.
Speaker 1: But it was just chill and do they like to
Speaker 1: do shopping?
Speaker 4: Oh, it took the girls shopping when Randy day. Kayden
Speaker 4: doesn't like to shop. Cayden fished some. He went fishing
Speaker 4: and he caught his first fish in California, like a
Speaker 4: bay bass or something that you know, he had never done.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 4: You know, they're good with like going and seeing things
Speaker 4: to an extent, but then they're ready to be done,
Speaker 4: like let's go back.
Speaker 1: And get in the hot tub.
Speaker 2: I saw the Disney thing. It was funny with this
Speaker 2: is kids in Disney Disney Life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were just.
Speaker 2: Like on the floor.
Speaker 4: They were like done, you know, like and I'm like,
Speaker 4: this is about Ramsey. It is her birthday and they
Speaker 4: were like so like Ramsey wanted to ride this one
Speaker 4: ride a second time at the end of the night
Speaker 4: and you know, like with the Genie Pass, you have
Speaker 4: to like plan it. So it wasn't until like eight
Speaker 4: that night. We'd been there for like twelve hours. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so I was like, this is about Ramsey. So
Speaker 4: like I'd catch Kate and be like, hey, Ramsey, do
Speaker 4: you want to do this or do you want to
Speaker 4: go back and get in the hot tub.
Speaker 1: I'm like labor alone.
Speaker 4: But I mean they were really sweet and it was
Speaker 4: luckily that day, like it was rainy, but it wasn't
Speaker 4: like hard, It was just drizzle, so it was fine
Speaker 4: and it was fun. But we had a great time.
Speaker 4: It was you know, as they get older, like how
Speaker 4: often are you in a room together? You don't really
Speaker 4: think about that. I mean our room that we had
Speaker 4: was like two rooms, so it was like us and
Speaker 4: them but connected. But one night for Disney, we were
Speaker 4: in one hotel room and that was probably our best
Speaker 4: night because we were all just like picking on each
Speaker 4: other and laughing and Ramsey's crying but we're laughing, like
Speaker 4: you know. It was just I was like, you're never
Speaker 4: in a room together when they're teenagers anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you are for a little bit.
Speaker 4: They'll hang out in the living room for a little bit,
Speaker 4: but everybody goes to their own rooms, you know, so
Speaker 4: it's like that kind of drives them crazy for a minute,
Speaker 4: but then it's like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's fun.
Speaker 2: You and Nick got to have a good full circle
Speaker 2: san Diego too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, which is funny because we you know, hung
Speaker 4: out with his friends that he went and saw.
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny.
Speaker 4: So you know we were separated, he went and stayed
Speaker 4: with this friend JJ and his wife Samantha, and so
Speaker 4: that was kind of part of like, let's go back
Speaker 4: and see JJ and Samantha because we were friends with
Speaker 4: them when they lived here and so yeah, so it
Speaker 4: was kind of but I feel that.
Speaker 1: It was also full circle from like years ago.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we didn't talk about that, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's funny. I hadn't thought about that.
Speaker 2: Full circle was when I wrote you about Instagram, So
Speaker 2: I knew Nick went there when you guys were separated,
Speaker 2: but I was talking about.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. God, when was this? This is when
Speaker 1: I was dating How long ago? Man? Like a long
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't even think I'm sure I had
Speaker 4: I would have had both kids, two kids, not Ramsey.
Speaker 4: We had gone because she was dating someone who lived
Speaker 4: in San Diego Eastwood.
Speaker 1: She just said I was trying to protect her.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no protection she herself and so I
Speaker 3: have to reiterate Eastwood.
Speaker 4: Nick and I went and we bought so bad on
Speaker 4: the way home, this huge.
Speaker 2: Come over to my house or no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like our biggest fight probably ever literally.
Speaker 1: Separated ever.
Speaker 4: I forgot about that. I mean I remember that we
Speaker 4: had fought. Oh my god, yes, that was our house
Speaker 4: in Britwoods. That was a long time ago. That was
Speaker 4: like our first, like huge fight and I.
Speaker 2: That was the first time I from even being friends.
Speaker 1: That was the worst by that And you were like
Speaker 1: there and in the.
Speaker 4: Middle of it for sure, because it was like I
Speaker 4: can't even remember why I wanted him to take me
Speaker 4: on a trip or do something and he's real cheap
Speaker 4: and didn't want to.
Speaker 2: We all got back from San Diego and it was
Speaker 2: just the biggest It was. It was just yeah, and.
Speaker 4: I was like, you should want to do it. And
Speaker 4: we were married seven years, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was like I never see you as fight. This
Speaker 1: was this was a blow up.
Speaker 4: We did talk about that and Kayden was like, what happened?
Speaker 4: I was like, don't worry about it, and we were
Speaker 4: just laughing about it. But we that's where I was
Speaker 4: just like, so funny. We talked about it for like
Speaker 4: a minute. But he was definitely more on the wavelength
Speaker 4: of thinking about being there single sure, for sure, and
Speaker 4: so that was kind of like, you know, his whole thing.
Speaker 4: And then hanging out with JJ and Samantha and they
Speaker 4: were like, yeah, when you were here last was.
Speaker 2: Trying to teach you guys how to surf.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that. We did talk about that a
Speaker 4: million times. I was so exhausted by the water.
Speaker 1: Girl. I like water, but I'm not a surfer and
Speaker 1: can tell you that much. I'm not strong enough.
Speaker 4: It's like by the time I too out of shape
Speaker 4: for surfing. It's like by the time you fight the
Speaker 4: waves to get out there, then they expect you to
Speaker 4: push your whole body up. And I was like, no,
Speaker 4: I'm good, just stay right here and surf. Their float
Speaker 4: just float.
Speaker 1: It's hard.
Speaker 4: Cayden was going to take surf lessons, but he's got
Speaker 4: the fractured stress fracture in his back, so he didn't
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 2: All things really ended after that trip.
Speaker 1: Things for all of us.
Speaker 2: It was like rip to all of.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. There was parts of that trip that
Speaker 1: were fun though.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean so fun. That was it.
Speaker 1: That was it was. It was to that era. That
Speaker 1: was just a fun time. That was a fun Jammer era.
Speaker 7: Era.
Speaker 2: Hie, yeah, that was it was just fun nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all fun that one. Yeah, that was just well good.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you got to have the.
Speaker 4: All the yeah, all the full circles, all the full circles.
Speaker 1: Where were you?
Speaker 5: Kb?
Speaker 1: We don't have our spring break until after Easter, so
Speaker 1: oh that's I would rather that.
Speaker 3: It's wonderful, actually warm and yeah, it's really lovely and
Speaker 3: I like it a lot. We just did a quick
Speaker 3: overnight to Tampa because the guys were asked to do
Speaker 3: the first ever halftime at the Savannah Bananas.
Speaker 4: Guys, it is a total riot and how fun for
Speaker 4: your kids.
Speaker 3: Oh, we lived our best life. And the corporation from
Speaker 3: just we met the owners, Emily Cole, is outstanding. They
Speaker 3: have this foster children program Bananas Foster. You know, like,
Speaker 3: none of the puns were lost on me. I was living.
Speaker 3: It was amazing and it was entertaining. If you ever
Speaker 3: get a chance to go, you have to. I've had
Speaker 3: a lot of friends tell me about it, but I've
Speaker 3: never because it was sheer incredible a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: They do a fantastic job. There's no fan left behind,
Speaker 3: like they will make sure every single person feels the
Speaker 3: effect of the Savannah Banansa.
Speaker 1: But it's awesome. We had a great time. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really fun, but it was quick.
Speaker 3: And the night before we left was storm warnings here
Speaker 3: and you know how I am put the helmets on
Speaker 3: even at the thought of it. So there was no
Speaker 3: sleep and so I was coming in on like fume Sunday,
Speaker 3: baby shower, changed in the car, got home, had to
Speaker 3: go to cheer and I was like, we just skipped
Speaker 3: school Monday. I'm like, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame me. Yeah, like I was toast.
Speaker 3: It's a weird feeling to feel hungover and not drink
Speaker 3: and that's how I.
Speaker 1: Felt for like two days. Yeah, it was wild, but
Speaker 1: it was banana. It was banana. I love that so fun.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break and get back to whine about it.
Speaker 7: You met Michelle Lally in the hip Bravo show The Valley.
Speaker 7: You met me literally during the most difficult chapter in
Speaker 7: my life. Now it's time for you to meet the
Speaker 7: real me Michelle Sennye. Yes, I change my name, and
Speaker 7: I want you to follow me on my journey to
Speaker 7: the Pursuit of Sassiness. So much has happened to me before, during,
Speaker 7: and after the show. Before you can really understand the
Speaker 7: eight weeks that you saw on TV, I think you
Speaker 7: have to know what was going on from the very beginning,
Speaker 7: from being raised by two immigrant parents, paying my own
Speaker 7: way through college and working at Hooters, to starting my
Speaker 7: own real estate empire, getting married, having a baby during COVID,
Speaker 7: to that very same marriage falling apart on national TV,
Speaker 7: to losing my mom, to eventually finding love again. There
Speaker 7: is so much to unpack and share. I'm on the
Speaker 7: pursuit of happiness and most importantly, I'm on the pursuit
Speaker 7: of sassiness. Listen to Pursuit of Sassiness starting on March
Speaker 7: seventeenth on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
Speaker 7: get your podcasts.
Speaker 2: All right, girls, what do you got?
Speaker 4: I don't really have a wine about it, but I
Speaker 4: do have something really stupid that I did. I'm just
Speaker 4: going to share this with y'all real fast, and y'all
Speaker 4: are gonna make this is the stupidest thing ever. You
Speaker 4: know how I am not good at like makeup, eyebrows
Speaker 4: all the things.
Speaker 2: Wait time out. I thought that you're not good. You
Speaker 2: just do basic. Okay, that's not not good.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: Well I also just don't know what I'm doing. It's great, Okay,
Speaker 4: Well have you noticed anything about me?
Speaker 1: Sorry? How the wait stare at me.
Speaker 2: A second?
Speaker 1: I don't you just look pretty? I don't know. Okay.
Speaker 4: So I missed, for whatever reason, for like my last
Speaker 4: two appointments for my eyebrows.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you have a full brow. A full brow.
Speaker 4: So besides that fact right now, because I have that
Speaker 4: appointment next week. And when they said about our wind
Speaker 4: down next week, I was like, but I have an appointment.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm like freaking out about my appointment.
Speaker 1: Side note.
Speaker 4: So then I decide, for the first time in my life,
Speaker 4: and yes, I'm forty one to you trim my brows
Speaker 4: on my own.
Speaker 1: Okay, I literally cut out a chunk of my eyebrow.
Speaker 2: I'll show you how to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I did it.
Speaker 2: I can't even tell. Well, it's grown back, okay.
Speaker 4: But everything, and he would just keep looking at me
Speaker 4: and she's like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: What she said.
Speaker 4: I don't know how my daughter knows this, but she's like,
Speaker 4: oh mom, i'd have to like fill it in every
Speaker 4: day anyway.
Speaker 1: So I cut my eyebrow in half right here last week. Anyway.
Speaker 1: It let me stare at it.
Speaker 8: I don't see it, but I literally I'm like, how
Speaker 8: did that happen?
Speaker 1: A whole thing just goes.
Speaker 2: It was God, I did use the brush to brush
Speaker 2: I thought I did.
Speaker 4: It was so bad, y'all. Anyway, that's how you know.
Speaker 4: I now I know and will never ever ever do
Speaker 4: it again. So I sit my brow girl, and I
Speaker 4: was like, I have to reschedule, like I have to
Speaker 4: reschedule because I needed anyway, That's all I have this week.
Speaker 3: I have one that I don't know how widespread this
Speaker 3: is or if this is just a Nashville thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, let's hear it.
Speaker 3: Themes, dress codes and themes for parties.
Speaker 4: I just don't go to anything. Just Pam, love her,
Speaker 4: love Pam, and she always has dress code, which is great.
Speaker 1: Love that. Otherwise I just don't do anything that has
Speaker 1: themes or like I already have such a hurdle to leave.
Speaker 3: I don't love leaving my you know, like we're all
Speaker 3: in the season of like nesty and babies, and it
Speaker 3: always sounds like a great idea when it's like four
Speaker 3: weeks out and you're like, oh for sure, yeah, and
Speaker 3: oh my god, are we going to get dinner before?
Speaker 3: And it's all just like this really fantasy world that
Speaker 3: we live in. And then the closer we get, the
Speaker 3: more I'm like, how do we get out of this?
Speaker 4: That is not a Nashville thing. I think that that's
Speaker 4: very common. No, that part I think is okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just that when you add the layer then
Speaker 3: of like it's a theme or you can't wear this
Speaker 3: color or you can't wear that color, or it has
Speaker 3: to be I mean, I don't I don't know if
Speaker 3: this person listens, So I don't go this person under
Speaker 3: the bus Pam No, No, No, I don't really that
Speaker 3: would have.
Speaker 2: Been that we can easily say. I mean homegirl told
Speaker 2: us we weren't allowed to wear pink at Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: No way to be red.
Speaker 1: No, it could be I think she was going to
Speaker 1: wear red. No for I could to Manaska.
Speaker 8: So it was all pink and yeah, anyways, we love you, Pam.
Speaker 2: We need so much that I'll say this, I do
Speaker 2: love people's attention to the detail of things. Sure I've
Speaker 2: only made you guys. Sure, I've made you guys do
Speaker 2: one theme party. That was it for my fortieth. I
Speaker 2: think when it comes to a fortieth or a fiftieth
Speaker 2: or some bigger thing, then I say, yes, you know,
Speaker 2: and if that's.
Speaker 1: My only one that year or a couple of years.
Speaker 3: So we also knew that was coming, like we had
Speaker 3: like a you know, it's like when you get a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks out and it's like, hey, we would
Speaker 3: love for you to celebrate the birth of this baby
Speaker 3: in pastels only.
Speaker 1: Do not come in white? Do not. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: for the love of Pete, Like, well.
Speaker 2: That's that's for the grand Yeah, it's just for the folks.
Speaker 1: That is a lot of Nashville. Yeah, yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: where I'm going. I don't know a theme.
Speaker 4: I don't know that a theme necessary. I think that
Speaker 4: people obviously will do themes for different things outside of Nashville,
Speaker 4: but I think what has happened a lot in Nashville
Speaker 4: because it's such an influencer world is the can't wear
Speaker 4: this color. Let's all match so we look good for
Speaker 4: the photo that we post on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm out. So did you go no
Speaker 1: sad thing? Okay? No?
Speaker 3: And I hate it And it's not even I'm I think,
Speaker 3: I just am like I I'm in a point in
Speaker 3: my body where I want a dress to be comfortable already,
Speaker 3: and not even sweatpants. I just want to dress and
Speaker 3: put on something that makes me feel pretty and and
Speaker 3: if that doesn't work with the color palette, then I
Speaker 3: just I'm gonna have to sit it out for some reason.
Speaker 3: I don't know what my deal is. And I've been
Speaker 3: in a little bit of a tender spot anyway, so's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I've been super sensitive to a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah same.
Speaker 2: Oh really, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either which earlier it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm off my period. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like I wondered if it was like a moon thing
Speaker 3: or a retrograder, Like it's that kind of feeling like
Speaker 3: I woke up this morning and like literally could cry.
Speaker 3: I saw Kat get out of the car, and I
Speaker 3: wanted to like curl up in her lap, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm so glad that you're just still in
Speaker 3: the driveway and she was like me too. And I
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know why I'm so needy. It's weird,
Speaker 3: and I have my husband home and that feels good.
Speaker 3: I don't know something.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of things. This, this can become
Speaker 4: a whine about it. So I can remember when we
Speaker 4: were in literally like a couple of saraby before we
Speaker 4: got married. Okay, stick with me, And I can remember
Speaker 4: this guy who did it for us, who talked about,
Speaker 4: you know, when you pick on people, like in a
Speaker 4: marriage specifically, especially like when you pick on each other,
Speaker 4: and that's kind of like your love, like it's funny
Speaker 4: and it's all those things.
Speaker 1: It's all those things.
Speaker 4: But when you get a couple of years in and
Speaker 4: you pick on her because she dropped the dishes or something,
Speaker 4: it's not funny in that moment and she gets upset
Speaker 4: or whatever. I can just remember him saying that, I'm like, no, no, no, whatever.
Speaker 4: Well that is become so true for me especially, and
Speaker 4: I've noticed that like with our family as a whole,
Speaker 4: we all kind of like pick on each other and
Speaker 4: like it can be hilarious, and it can be funny,
Speaker 4: and it can be fun and it can be all
Speaker 4: the things until someone's feelings are hurt, you know. And
Speaker 4: so it's like it's just been something that I've noticed
Speaker 4: a lot lately, and I'm like, oh, I'm sensitive to that.
Speaker 4: Like I know it's true, but like I'm sensitive to that,
Speaker 4: or like you know, Nick Nay said the other day
Speaker 4: we were talking about something. He was like, Okay, you know,
Speaker 4: it's like your mom says that I'm needy. He's like,
Speaker 4: I am needy, but like in that other moment, it
Speaker 4: hurts his feelings If I say that in that moment
Speaker 4: it's funny and we're all laughing about how he's needy
Speaker 4: or whatever. It's just been a common thing in our
Speaker 4: family in general lately, and I am just more sensitive
Speaker 4: to those.
Speaker 1: Kinds of things lately. Yeah, I think everybody is. Maybe
Speaker 1: as you get older or I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I remember my dad was a crier, Like he cried
Speaker 3: a lot as he got older, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, maybe there is something to know, Like don't
Speaker 1: we just get like a little more tender as we
Speaker 1: get older.
Speaker 2: Is there a point for you cat that you can
Speaker 2: go because I think back, Okay, this is probably what's
Speaker 2: making me sensitive about something that happened a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago, which is why it carries on and today.
Speaker 2: So is there something where you can go This was
Speaker 2: said about X that made me feel maybe sensitive today
Speaker 2: or something that happened or was it because I we
Speaker 2: didn't put the notes in the I restore mask on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, No, it's not that.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, it's gonna yeah like no, no, no, I know,
Speaker 8: I'm like, yeah, you know, I think for me, it
Speaker 8: is more like that kind of stuff will drive me
Speaker 8: crazy in a like I'm hard on myself kind of way.
Speaker 4: Like if I didn't put the things in the notes
Speaker 4: or whatever we were right, that is that hits me different.
Speaker 4: But if it's like something I know about myself that
Speaker 4: I think people see in a negative way but pointed out,
Speaker 4: I get really sensitive to that and they can get
Speaker 4: sensitive to that well, like and I kind of told
Speaker 4: Kristen this and not, you know, not to bring this
Speaker 4: out on here.
Speaker 1: But like guys, sometimes I forget we're recording.
Speaker 2: I know, did I say something?
Speaker 4: No, Well, it's kind of both of y'all but not
Speaker 4: in a bad way. Again, this is where I'm saying
Speaker 4: it's no, no, this is where I'm saying.
Speaker 8: It's that's where you had the gratitude thing. Yeah, like
Speaker 8: that's joking.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But I came in with the old mom
Speaker 1: on the second and I.
Speaker 4: Told and I just I told her on that because
Speaker 4: she was like, hey, let's talk about San Diego. And
Speaker 4: I said, hey, that thing on the thing kind of
Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, and she's like one of the
Speaker 4: most sounds like I'm super sensitive too, like.
Speaker 1: Right now, but I told her saw it. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't there's there's.
Speaker 4: Not even a reason to be sorry, because like like
Speaker 4: I told Nick, and he was like, oh, I didn't
Speaker 4: realize that that would And I was like, one hundred percent,
Speaker 4: and in any other day it probably wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, I think because I see that
Speaker 4: as a negative in me, uh huh, then if people
Speaker 4: joke about it, I'm like, oh, see that negative too.
Speaker 1: I just thought you were responsible.
Speaker 2: No, but I mean I get that, like there's sometimes
Speaker 2: when we all say one hundred percent, you know where
Speaker 2: it's like you'll make a joke.
Speaker 4: I actually said this to Nick when I said it,
Speaker 4: because it's like, oh, I'm surprised that you're He basically said,
Speaker 4: I'm surprised you're being sensitive to that. And I said,
Speaker 4: but it's like in the other regard, I'm sure. I
Speaker 4: know for a fact, I have said things to Janna
Speaker 4: that probably like I meant as a joke that we're like, okay, thank.
Speaker 1: You, like you know what I mean. It's like we
Speaker 1: all do.
Speaker 2: But I know you your intention one.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent, That's what I'm saying. I know y'all's intention
Speaker 4: is not to be like, oh my god, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Hysterical because we were there for literally twenty seven minutes
Speaker 3: the beach, Oh the beach. We got there and had
Speaker 3: very limited time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I think for me so much.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to tell Janna that I was pregnant
Speaker 3: and I didn't even have time.
Speaker 2: Just so people understand, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we Kristin and
Speaker 2: I went to the beach to write our intentions, and
Speaker 2: on here we talk a lot about how we will
Speaker 2: write our intentions out in the sand or do therapy
Speaker 2: things like the bear in the Woods and so. And
Speaker 2: you don't like that form of certains it's too like
Speaker 2: touchy emotional, right, So there was a Julie Solomon had
Speaker 2: group messages in our queendom chat saying, hey, guys, there's
Speaker 2: this group thread of a gratitude thing where every day
Speaker 2: we say something that we're grateful for, and so you know,
Speaker 2: let me know if you want to be added on
Speaker 2: to it. So we're like, yeah, yes, yes, And so
Speaker 2: Catherine had said add me too, and so I just
Speaker 2: I think I said shocked or something like I'm shocked
Speaker 2: or yeah, or like an exclamation point or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And because I just didn't think because of the other
Speaker 2: stuff that it wouldn't be your cup of tea.
Speaker 1: Right, which is fair. I understand that. I think for me,
Speaker 1: I could see how that might have hurt you. So
Speaker 1: I apologize.
Speaker 4: No, there's honestly, like, honestly, there's no need to apologize,
Speaker 4: Like I know, kind of like when you're in a
Speaker 4: bad mood, like on your period.
Speaker 1: Like I know I'm being sensitive, you know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, But if it's still her your feelings, it's still
Speaker 2: something like I shouldn't. Well, that's awesome that you want
Speaker 2: to be on that group chat because it's something that
Speaker 2: is a graded you know too.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, And here's the deal.
Speaker 4: I may not send it in, I may not be
Speaker 4: super whatever on it, but I do enjoy that other
Speaker 4: people like that. I do enjoy seeing that. I do
Speaker 4: like to push myself. I think when it goes back
Speaker 4: to this, all goes back to we were on the
Speaker 4: road for wind down. I was tour managing, which is
Speaker 4: stressful for me, and so during the day on those days,
Speaker 4: I like to stay in, do my emails, get prepared
Speaker 4: for the day, and then usually y'all kind of like
Speaker 4: to go out and do stuff. I mean, I would
Speaker 4: love to do that too, but I'd rather be prepared
Speaker 4: for the night because it stresses me out. So when
Speaker 4: I think back to that and y'all going to the beach,
Speaker 4: I don't remember y'all saying y'all were going to write
Speaker 4: your intentions in the sand. I thought y'all were just
Speaker 4: going to the beach. I don't know that we had
Speaker 4: a plan. I don't think y'all planned on doing.
Speaker 2: When we told you, you're like, yeah, not my thing
Speaker 2: or somebody.
Speaker 1: I don't think that y'all had in my mind. Y'all
Speaker 1: hadn't told me y'all we're going to do that. Y'all
Speaker 1: were just going to go to the beach. We knew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're just gonna it's it. And I
Speaker 1: think y'all told me when you got that I was.
Speaker 3: Going to tell everybody about the secret baby. I was caring,
Speaker 3: but we didn't have enough time.
Speaker 4: Right right, right fast, And so I think it goes
Speaker 4: back to It just goes back to that, and I
Speaker 4: see that as a negative in myself that I'm not
Speaker 4: comfortable with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So then when it.
Speaker 4: Gets why I see that as a negative though, well
Speaker 4: I think other people see that as a I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's negative at all. Well, it's just
Speaker 4: something I see it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't resonate. But why, right, I guess.
Speaker 1: Because I should want to be able to Why I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Listen, when things could too woo woo for me, I
Speaker 3: don't want to do those things like right, it would
Speaker 3: be in the safety of the fact that like it's Janaus.
Speaker 2: Just because everybody else likes or other people might like it,
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you should like it.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Some people's like you should read more, right, or so
Speaker 2: you should read because other people are reading. It's good
Speaker 2: for you will know. If you don't want to read,
Speaker 2: you don't have sure that you want to read?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure for sure.
Speaker 2: So anyway you that Or is it because it's a
Speaker 2: go deeper because you're more emotional?
Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, I'm sure it's way deeper.
Speaker 3: Sure do you want to get I don't always down.
Speaker 2: I just say, like, is it deeper? Is it because
Speaker 2: you don't want to.
Speaker 8: Tell you if I'm told you now because I am
Speaker 8: super down, if I'm getting sensitive about it.
Speaker 4: Generally, yes, it's going to be Otherwise, like obviously it's
Speaker 4: a joke. It's no big deal, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 4: generally it's going to be a little deeper than that.
Speaker 1: Like even.
Speaker 4: Like I even said to Nick and I was like,
Speaker 4: because like it was you know, we'll also commented on
Speaker 4: my post.
Speaker 9: Back to back, if I'm being honest, we did, privately,
Speaker 9: you did on Instagram on Instagram too, we do which
Speaker 9: one you'll make the comment on Instagram.
Speaker 4: I think that's why the text hit me so much,
Speaker 4: because it had.
Speaker 1: Already been commented on my Instagram. Yeah, somebody I learned
Speaker 1: apologize at the front door of your house.
Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't I hear san Diego photo.
Speaker 2: I was like, did you write your intentions in this?
Speaker 4: And then I'm on my text and I was like,
Speaker 4: and so I'm telling Nick and I go, I go.
Speaker 1: I go, and you laughed and he goes. I thought
Speaker 1: it was funny. I didn't know what was happening. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm just saying it.
Speaker 4: Just in that moment, it kind of felt like it
Speaker 4: was all piling on a little bit, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: After that, I almost thought, is she gonna be? I
Speaker 2: was like, no, she's not gonna be. Like I almost
Speaker 2: think it depends I texted you you know, you know
Speaker 2: that was just a joke, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it depends on when it hits me.
Speaker 4: And I'm just more sensitive right now. I really do,
Speaker 4: because that's what I was telling her outside because I
Speaker 4: wanted to cry.
Speaker 3: I was like, I never want to make you feel
Speaker 3: sad like it makes me want to cry right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm more sensitive, right I don't
Speaker 1: know either, And look at me.
Speaker 4: I had the tears because I made you sad and
Speaker 4: we all let me just say, and I I am
Speaker 4: so guilty of this, so please don't take it.
Speaker 1: We all joke with each other. We all nervous.
Speaker 4: I hate no, I'm inspired, I get nervous. We all
Speaker 4: do this in our family. We do this in our friendships.
Speaker 4: Like we say things that we are trying to be
Speaker 4: funny and pick on each other that it just depends
Speaker 4: on when it hits.
Speaker 1: I will say, Preston and I have had a little
Speaker 1: bit of this.
Speaker 3: He's been home a little bit, like a tiny bit,
Speaker 3: and that's an adjustment in itself, sure, but like I'm
Speaker 3: not like my role in the house is this and
Speaker 3: this and this, Like I'm the A type and I'm
Speaker 3: the organized and bah blah blah blah, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: somebody fucking has.
Speaker 1: To be you know.
Speaker 3: Like I start to get a little bit like do
Speaker 3: you I mean, I would love to just kick it
Speaker 3: for a day, but I don't if I do that, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, Like so I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Like that has been like a tender point for me.
Speaker 4: We literally and Anaheim are all picking on each other
Speaker 4: in this hotel room. So this is everywhere, all picking
Speaker 4: on each other, all doing something. Well, Kayden did something
Speaker 4: that upset Ramsey, but it was hilarious and we're all
Speaker 4: dying laughing. Well, then it's like quiet and I'll look
Speaker 4: over her and she's crying, but it's also still hilarious,
Speaker 4: so we're all trying to not laugh.
Speaker 1: But that's where I realize.
Speaker 4: I'm like, she might laugh about that tomorrow, but in
Speaker 4: this moment, she's crying, so I'm like, can it stop,
Speaker 4: you know whatever. So it just it rolls over in
Speaker 4: all aspects of life. It's just been an interesting thing
Speaker 4: to see because I'm not always sensitive to it, but
Speaker 4: sometimes i am. It's just it's been fascinating. So anyway,
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at y'all, and I love y'all.
Speaker 2: I think it's actually really glad we talked about it,
Speaker 2: because I think it's a good point. Like you said, Catherine,
Speaker 2: everyone deals with this where when you're that close, whether
Speaker 2: it's a close friendships or a relationship, you say things
Speaker 2: thinking it's going to be funny, and quite possibly it
Speaker 2: is funny, but it's the wrong time.
Speaker 1: Number seven.
Speaker 2: Then people's feelings can get hurt because essentially you are
Speaker 2: making fun of somebody or something totally you know, even
Speaker 2: though you can all laugh about it at one point,
Speaker 2: but sometimes you're not going to laugh about it, So
Speaker 2: It's a very valid thing and just a reminder to yep,
Speaker 2: be cautious of people's feelings in that moment when you
Speaker 2: do it. And I'm sorry, I can't wait to write.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to write. We're going to Wilmington this
Speaker 1: weekend and we're going to write some intention.
Speaker 9: Circle circle right here, we'll post.
Speaker 1: I'm going to work on and you don't have to
Speaker 1: like that. I don't have to like it, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to do it.
Speaker 2: Or think that you should or not like that part
Speaker 2: of you. You know, there's many things that people you know,
Speaker 2: there's things there's many things that people don't it.
Speaker 3: I do love this friendship though, too, because the other
Speaker 3: thing is is I like that we allow each other
Speaker 3: to change. That has been something I've noticed in my
Speaker 3: forties where like you almost to like, you know, We've
Speaker 3: had a guest on where we kind of talked about
Speaker 3: she got pigeonholed to be a certain role at one
Speaker 3: point and it was like this stereotype or whatever. It's
Speaker 3: like I have done so much learning and changing and
Speaker 3: healing even in the last like five years that like,
Speaker 3: I enjoy that the friends I have with me are
Speaker 3: like watching me do that and are like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is like she's she didn't do that anymore or whatever,
Speaker 3: And I like that about like and that.
Speaker 1: We can talk about it on air for everyone to hear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes I forget ye, I didn't think we were
Speaker 4: I had a whine about it, and here we go
Speaker 4: to tell y'all, I have.
Speaker 1: A whine about it's you. Oh wait, we are not
Speaker 1: supposed to call people that I would see you.
Speaker 5: Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I'm telling my story unfiltered, unedited,
Speaker 5: and unapologetic for a moment you didn't see on camera,
Speaker 5: to secrets nobody's dared to spill. I'm bringing you behind
Speaker 5: the scenes like never before. I'm talking love life because
Speaker 5: let's be real here, it's been a journey wellness and
Speaker 5: the truth behind the headlines, and of course I've got
Speaker 5: the receipts. Plus I'll be sitting down with some of
Speaker 5: the biggest names in pop culture for casually chaotic conversations
Speaker 5: you won't hear anywhere else. So pour yourself and espresso
Speaker 5: martini and get ready because once you start listening, you'll
Speaker 5: be waking up in the morning thinking about so many things.
Speaker 5: Listen to Casual Chaos starting on March twenty fourth, on
Speaker 5: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your.
Speaker 2: Podcasts headline, Kim Kardashian is considering filing for full custody
Speaker 2: of her and Kanye West kids after public drama. I've
Speaker 2: been kind of under not really reading into a lot
Speaker 2: of this, but apparently there's a song that Kanye did
Speaker 2: with Sean Diddy Combs which feature featured vocals from his
Speaker 2: and Kardashian's eldest child, North, and it seems that they
Speaker 2: are kind of going back and forth. And you know,
Speaker 2: she said she sent the paperwork over so she wouldn't
Speaker 2: be in the ditty song to protect her. And meanwhile
Speaker 2: West applied allegedly replied and neither of us will recover
Speaker 2: from the public fallout. You're going to have to kill me.
Speaker 2: So there seems to be a big back and forth.
Speaker 2: What are y'all thoughts? We need to go to our
Speaker 2: local Kardashian expert.
Speaker 4: There's no way I would allow my child to be
Speaker 4: released on that song.
Speaker 1: I mean, one thousand there is a zero way.
Speaker 4: And I am proud of him for standing up to that,
Speaker 4: and something needs to be done. There's zero way.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this song. Well, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's he's got a ditter.
Speaker 2: Why would he want a song with him to begin with.
Speaker 1: I don't know when it was recorded.
Speaker 2: But that's besides the thing exactly.
Speaker 4: But like I would hope this is recorded before anyone
Speaker 4: knew this information. First of all, right, second of all,
Speaker 4: it all goes null and void now I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it is done with.
Speaker 2: If he wants to put it out, fine, that's his.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gone on his own little rants about
Speaker 2: awful things. But to have your daughter in it. If
Speaker 2: I was him, I one thousand percent agree with you,
Speaker 2: Catherine and Kristen. Like I, I would fight tooth and
Speaker 2: nail in every court to not have that released.
Speaker 4: I think of all the things that I've heard about,
Speaker 4: that they've gone through, that they've thought about.
Speaker 1: This would be like a game changer for me.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Kanye stuff right now that I'm like,
Speaker 3: I want full custody just because I want full custody
Speaker 3: for a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, Well, you get your shit together.
Speaker 2: I think it's hard. There's a lot of things obviously
Speaker 2: that we see we don't know what's how opening in
Speaker 2: closed doors, so it's you know, it's obviously if a
Speaker 2: child's being endangered and not taken care of properly, then yes,
Speaker 2: absolutely full custody.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 2: Still so important to have their dad in their life,
Speaker 2: so hopefully they can figure out something.
Speaker 3: But I don't mind full custody with visitations and some monitoring. Well,
Speaker 3: I think we have someone who's a little unwell right now.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's just a way for her to have control
Speaker 4: over I don't even know, like over that kind of stuff,
Speaker 4: like they still get to see their father, that I
Speaker 4: still get to be around him obviously, but like those
Speaker 4: kinds of decisions, he doesn't seem to be making the best.
Speaker 1: And a parent.
Speaker 2: It's hard though, because someone could say that they're on
Speaker 2: the shows and social media and that's not good for
Speaker 2: kids either to be a part of it. So just
Speaker 2: I'm and if he never condone anything that he's doing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's actually a very I'm just playing the other Absolutely,
Speaker 2: that's a very good point.
Speaker 4: And I think that if he had a problem for
Speaker 4: it for a second, they shouldn't be allowed to be
Speaker 4: on there. I mean, it takes two parents to agree
Speaker 4: to things like that for children. The song and the show.
Speaker 4: So if he disagreed for a second for the show,
Speaker 4: I don't think that she has a right to have
Speaker 4: them on there takes.
Speaker 2: To did they disagree about them?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I'm saying I would think not if
Speaker 4: they're on there, because I think legally you have to
Speaker 4: have approval.
Speaker 2: By I don't know, But it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2: There is you know, stuff to say about all that,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, Mike and I've had conversations about it.
Speaker 1: They've been.
Speaker 2: A part of the social media, part of my social media,
Speaker 2: his social media obviously so. But it's more when things
Speaker 2: turn to spie versus Sure, but I think in this
Speaker 2: area it's not about spite. It's about Sean Didycombs, who's
Speaker 2: a known woman like abuse her and of young exactly
Speaker 2: so that.
Speaker 3: And their father, who does not have anything politically correct
Speaker 3: to say in his body right now, is also a
Speaker 3: liability in my opinion.
Speaker 2: I fully am just like you know. Of course, Mama
Speaker 2: Bear is showing up and rightfully so, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Do you guys watch Did you guys watch Christine Quinn
Speaker 2: on selling suns Up? Yes, so she has pulled back
Speaker 2: the curtain on her hairrowing split from her ex and
Speaker 2: the abuse, and she said, I didn't really have a choice.
Speaker 2: I was granted an emergency protective order some X can
Speaker 2: come to the house. He violated that and would keep
Speaker 2: coming back. She said it was very difficult to stay
Speaker 2: in a hotel during during this time, and later a
Speaker 2: couch surf with friends since she felt she couldn't go home.
Speaker 2: What's worse, she says, is that she didn't have access
Speaker 2: to her own personal accounts, including her bank accounts, credit cards,
Speaker 2: email account because her ex command dear command, what is
Speaker 2: that command? Come and com and dear thank you her
Speaker 2: phone number. People really don't know. I was hacked out
Speaker 2: of my entire life. I was stripped of my life overnight.
Speaker 2: I literally had nothing. It was to humanizing.
Speaker 1: Awful.
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't. I didn't watch really selling Sunset
Speaker 2: when Christine was on there. But regardless, I mean to
Speaker 2: be to be in that situation and not, you know,
Speaker 2: not be able to have access to anything. I mean,
Speaker 2: I remember when my first abuser kicked me out of
Speaker 2: the we were at the arch Stone apartments. I mean
Speaker 2: I had nothing like literally locked me out of the place.
Speaker 2: It was all in his name everything, and that was
Speaker 2: by that point, it was like I had no friends,
Speaker 2: no nobody to like go to, so it was like
Speaker 2: knocking on doors kind of sleep at your place, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's just it's awful. It's awful. What are your
Speaker 2: all thoughts?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I don't have a big opinion
Speaker 4: on it. I know that she has a really not
Speaker 4: the best rap from the show, so I feel like
Speaker 4: people will have a lot of negative to say towards her.
Speaker 4: But this is sad, and no matter who you are
Speaker 4: or how people look at you or whatever, from a
Speaker 4: show like abuse is not okay. And I don't even
Speaker 4: understand how she got locked out of everything.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: But I mean, she lived a very very lavish lifestyle
Speaker 4: and then to be locked out of everything, it's hard
Speaker 4: for everybody. I'm not saying, but I can imagine it
Speaker 4: was very traumatizing for her, going from a lot of money,
Speaker 4: a very nice house, all the things too, having nothing.
Speaker 1: Is He commented it all not that I know of,
Speaker 1: not that I've seen.
Speaker 4: And he wasn't really on the show. It was all
Speaker 4: kind of weird. Honestly, it seemed weird a little bit
Speaker 4: to me. On the show like she had a baby,
Speaker 4: kind of out of nowhere, kind of just happened quickly.
Speaker 4: I feel like, maybe not out of nowhere, but it
Speaker 4: just seemed and he wasn't really involved in it, so
Speaker 4: everything seemed a little odd, a little off. But I
Speaker 4: mean I read something where it's like he would like
Speaker 4: lay in front of her car for her to not
Speaker 4: leave and stuff like. It was just all really bizarre behavior.
Speaker 4: So I hate that for anybody.
Speaker 2: And I would say for those people getting in those
Speaker 2: or not knowing that they're getting into that relationship, but
Speaker 2: always to always have control of some account or finances
Speaker 2: so that you're not left absolutely nothing.
Speaker 4: And she obviously did the show, and she obviously has
Speaker 4: sold homes, so she has obviously made some of her
Speaker 4: own money. It's not like whether she was or wasn't,
Speaker 4: it's not okay, but some of that money was her
Speaker 4: earned money as well, that she should have a right,
Speaker 4: you know, she should be able to get totus.
Speaker 2: Jason Isaiahs calls out double standard of being asked about
Speaker 2: full frontal scenes. I don't watch White Lotus, but he
Speaker 2: was basically saying how he had showed full frontal. I
Speaker 2: don't know much about that show or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I just personally don't think there needs to be so
Speaker 2: much nudity in everything.
Speaker 1: Literally everything agreed.
Speaker 2: But he says he goes to talk about the perspective
Speaker 2: of Anora and substance for the nudity in there, I
Speaker 2: think a little nudity is I just think people are
Speaker 2: getting I think it's getting out of hand.
Speaker 3: I watched a show and I can't even recall what
Speaker 3: it does. It doesn't matter, but I remember we watched it,
Speaker 3: and Preston and I like three episodes in He's like,
Speaker 3: I feel like we're watching porn. Like it was that
Speaker 3: graphic that I was like taken back, like I didn't
Speaker 3: even and it didn't apply, you know, like I missed
Speaker 3: the kind of Ross and Rachel under the sheets, you know,
Speaker 3: or like cut scene to the next morning, or you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's just some mystery left in that and sweetness about it.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 4: I do think his point, though, is valid and interesting
Speaker 4: that it does seem to be a double standard how
Speaker 4: many vaginas are on TV and movie compared to penises.
Speaker 3: Now, then, do I necessarily want to bess because there's
Speaker 3: way more women's breast.
Speaker 4: That's true, I think that's kind of his point, is
Speaker 4: the double standard here, like why can women go around
Speaker 4: being naked all over these shows that men can't?
Speaker 1: And it's kind of always been that.
Speaker 4: Way, Like it's it's so much more shocking to see
Speaker 4: a full frontal of a man than it is a woman.
Speaker 1: But is that because we are women?
Speaker 9: Do?
Speaker 1: I think it is? In general?
Speaker 4: I think it's because it's been that way for so long.
Speaker 4: Not many as full frontal.
Speaker 2: I mean, the first time that I've ever seen the
Speaker 2: full frontal was that movie sex Life. Sorry to the
Speaker 2: TV show. Yeah, that was the first time that.
Speaker 1: Probably that it doesn't happen much, But I just don't
Speaker 1: like why.
Speaker 2: That's what I always why for what reason?
Speaker 1: But I feel that way about both agreed this.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like I agree with him in the sense
Speaker 4: that it's a double standard, but also why do we
Speaker 4: need to see any of it?
Speaker 2: If we want? Would?
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at, Like it's wild and you're and
Speaker 3: you're getting into shows where it's like I don't even
Speaker 3: know what the radiants count for anymore because it's like
Speaker 3: mature audience and it's like oh okay, well yeah, or
Speaker 3: you know whatever, and all of a sudden, I'm watching
Speaker 3: things and I'm like, this is wildly graphic.
Speaker 2: They're just like it's starting to desensitize people too. And
Speaker 2: that's what I just think about it, which is why
Speaker 2: what porn does to people? Right, So when porn doesn't
Speaker 2: satisfy the needs or the eyes, then they go deeper
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So I don't like any of it. I don't
Speaker 3: need to see anybody about my husband. That's my official stance.
Speaker 4: I just think ninety nine percent of the time, like
Speaker 4: you said, there's no point for it now there.
Speaker 1: I know what's going to happen. There might be like
Speaker 1: a comedy or something that there was like a point to.
Speaker 4: It, like whatever, okay, towel drops like and it's supposed
Speaker 4: to be fun you know, Okay, fine, but like do
Speaker 4: we don't like it?
Speaker 2: And something's got to give with Jack Nicholson when his
Speaker 2: butt's showing when he's walking, like that's funny.
Speaker 4: That's funny, and there's a point for there. Just always naked,
Speaker 4: it's like what we don't like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, also like we already know what that like. We're good, yeah, solid, see,
Speaker 3: I'm with you. How can I establish healthy boundaries with
Speaker 3: my in laws when they constantly disregard my wishes and
Speaker 3: make me feel like a bad mom. My husband and
Speaker 3: I have had several conversations with them, but things never improve.
Speaker 3: His family is overbearing, passive, aggressive, and judgmental, and if
Speaker 3: I stand up for myself, it only makes things worse.
Speaker 3: Although my husband supports me and is bothered by their behavior,
Speaker 3: it's still challenging to find a balance that allows us
Speaker 3: to maintain a relationship with them without causing too much stress.
Speaker 3: We're trying not to cut them off completely, but attending
Speaker 3: every event, holiday and birthday feels like it only exacerbates
Speaker 3: the tension. Their behavior is affecting my mental health. I'm
Speaker 3: experiencing significant significant anxiety, feeling judged constantly, and it's difficult
Speaker 3: not to care about their opinions. They use social media
Speaker 3: to weaponize their opinions, and even though I know it's
Speaker 3: not true, they make me feel like my kids love
Speaker 3: my husband more than me. How do I maintain my
Speaker 3: confidence as a mother and protect my mental well being
Speaker 3: in this environment without losing the connection with my husband's
Speaker 3: side of the family.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: Whoa uh, Well, my answer is probably not the best one.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would have like hardly any access. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't allow that to continue, which we've had to do
Speaker 4: with my own family. Like I feel like my family's
Speaker 4: a little judgmental. The access is not there, and if
Speaker 4: they're doing it on social media, that's wild. That's wild,
Speaker 4: and there would be there Facebook. They also I've had
Speaker 4: to unfriend.
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know how to get I'm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like I have unfriended people family members on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's just a lot, and not because they're
Speaker 4: attacking me or my family, but I have seen them
Speaker 4: attack other people in our family and it's just too much.
Speaker 4: I think you just don't personally for me and my
Speaker 4: mental health. Less access if you're going to judge me
Speaker 4: or not. If I don't walk away feeling positive. Now,
Speaker 4: I can do some some holidays and you know, just
Speaker 4: try to not let it get to me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I know that that's easier said than done. I could
Speaker 4: do a few holidays, but less access is my answer.
Speaker 3: Kristin, I would agree, un looks less access. I also think,
Speaker 3: like the husband wife teamwork is the critical part. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it feels isolating if you're the only one that
Speaker 3: really feels that we are the only one challenging.
Speaker 4: It sounds like that they I think she said that
Speaker 4: they have had conversations together, and yeah.
Speaker 2: But that's my husband supports me, is bothered by their behavior.
Speaker 2: It's still challenging to find a balance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sometimes the husband's and even my personal experience,
Speaker 3: the husband will agree, but then implementing that is sometimes trickier. Sure,
Speaker 3: like the actions are trickier for them because it is
Speaker 3: their parents. Yeah, yeah, I guys, I'm the boundary chick.
Speaker 1: I freaking love it.
Speaker 3: So we've had to do some pretty important, some pretty
Speaker 3: substantial roles in our lives. Those people are at an
Speaker 3: arm's length still currently for over a year, just based
Speaker 3: on some violation of things that hurt and just I
Speaker 3: honor my house and be in such a safe space.
Speaker 3: I didn't grow up having my house feel safe, so
Speaker 3: it really matters to me. I just and I don't.
Speaker 3: I can't have that in my house and I've worked
Speaker 3: so hard to make that like a haven for me
Speaker 3: that Yeah, I can't, just can't budge.
Speaker 2: I would say, just remember you are mom. You know
Speaker 2: what's best for them, You know what is right for them.
Speaker 2: Their opinions are only their opinions. And that's exactly what
Speaker 2: it is. Their opinions. You know what they need and
Speaker 2: you know what's in your four walls, Like Alan always says, like,
Speaker 2: what's the truth in your four walls? Fine, yes, we
Speaker 2: all need to do the birthdays and this, that and
Speaker 2: the other. But their comments are again their comments, their opinions.
Speaker 2: Letting it affect you for what why? You know, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, we just had this incident. We had some feedback. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to go thirty thousand feet with the story
Speaker 2: based on a recent visit from some family members, and
Speaker 2: it was like, I just I heard Preston start to
Speaker 2: over explain, and I was like, we I'm we're in
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 1: We don't over explain.
Speaker 3: We don't owe anyone an explanation for how we do
Speaker 3: life here, and specifically how I do life here, because
Speaker 3: I'm doing it by myself at least one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty nights a year to two hundred nights a year.
Speaker 3: So whatever the system is that works for us is
Speaker 3: what works for us. And in that yeah, and I'm
Speaker 3: not explaining that to anyone specifically this particular person, Mama
Speaker 3: knows best.
Speaker 2: Amen to that. Yeah, Well, on that note, see you
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 9: Hi,