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Speaker 4: I don't know if you knew this or not. We

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Speaker 4: are sitting next to Steve Jobs and Elvis President.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How about that. How about that lover, lover and a creator.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what my personality breakdown came back with. You

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Speaker 1: didn't know that, did you? Yeah? I just wondered, like

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Speaker 1: am I a narciss city? So I took one of

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Speaker 1: those personality surveys yesterday.

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Speaker 5: What does that entail?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: Like, what do you do this?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 5: What do you have to do?

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Speaker 1: It was like I looked it up and it's online.

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Speaker 1: It was online.

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Speaker 7: Deal, Like if you look up your love language or

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Speaker 7: your house of hufflepuff or something.

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Speaker 1: Like like, it can help you to like figure out

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Speaker 1: how to improve your you know, like your daily movement,

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Speaker 1: like if you need more structure in your life or

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Speaker 1: you know, more of this less of that, you know,

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Speaker 1: type of deal and what to come back as, I'm

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Speaker 1: a lover and a creator?

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I mean you've got how many kids?

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Speaker 1: Five?

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Speaker 5: Five?

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Speaker 6: I would say that equates to being a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I agreed, but what to tell you that?

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Speaker 1: The hardest thing I had to accept was the celebrity

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Speaker 1: comparisons like my what is it? My survey? My answers

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Speaker 1: aligned with Steve Jobs as the creator, which I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with He's was he on the spectrum, and he might

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Speaker 1: have been I might be on spectrum, bro and then

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Speaker 1: uh and Elvis Presley as the lover I was. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I mean, I couldn't have things going on there.

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Speaker 1: I was going for like, you know, kind of civil

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Speaker 1: the Donald said it was it was.

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Speaker 6: It was a boozehound and something else a lover.

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Speaker 7: Well, Steve Jobs was never formally diagnosed. Many people and

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Speaker 7: experts do believe that he showed traits of being on

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Speaker 7: the autism spectrum and having aspergers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there you go for Maybe he was just

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Speaker 1: smart than man. I do feel like I'm alone sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. That's why I stay to myself.

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Speaker 5: It feels like they're alone right now, probably Kean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great second that I mean, when you when

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Speaker 4: He Kean, And we got a question for you. You ever

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Speaker 1: You know where them do wives go? You can flush them?

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Speaker 2: So he could he could go right where to do

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Speaker 1: He go right with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was something yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Terry Poula, the owner of the Buffalo Bills and Brandon mean,

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Speaker 4: I can't say.

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Speaker 6: Conference before we put the sound. Can I just throw

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're getting so old and times have

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Speaker 1: Most old hits don't care anyway. But now the politically

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Speaker 1: with old hits, it's gone. It's gone. They don't even

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Speaker 1: care no more. Terry don't even care, Like, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna shoot you straight. I own banguitting at all, and

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Speaker 1: y'all gonna stop ratting on my GM like that because

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Speaker 1: that's my guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could go kick a rock so much so

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Speaker 4: he promoted him now. Yesterday, amongst a bunch of questions

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Speaker 4: about you know, Sean McDermott's firing, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: the question was posed to Brandon Bean about the situation

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Speaker 4: with Keon Coleman, who they drafted and it just hasn't

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Speaker 4: worked out. He was benched. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 4: off the field stuff with him. He's not showing up

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Speaker 4: on time, so on and so forth. I think there's

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Speaker 4: been some fines that have been handed out as well too,

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Speaker 4: and so they've been asking, you know what, what's really

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Speaker 4: gone on with this? Your fingerprints are all over this

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Speaker 4: move in drafting Keon Coleman. And then yes, and then

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Speaker 4: Terry Pegula decided, you know what, I don't need to

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Speaker 4: use my blinker all merged right into this lane and

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Speaker 4: take this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean rupt, I'll address the Keon situation. The

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Speaker 3: coaching staff pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying Brandon

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.

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Speaker 3: That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice

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Speaker 3: of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player,

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Speaker 3: and he's taken, for some reason heat over it and

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Speaker 3: not saying a word about it. But I'm here to

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Speaker 3: tell you the true story.

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Speaker 4: Now, there's a couple of problems with that true story,

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Speaker 4: all right. Number one, that player is still on your roster.

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Speaker 1: No, you didn't, you didn't say.

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Speaker 4: Number two, there's audio and video at the combine of

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Speaker 4: Brandon Bean saying I'm glad Keon Coleman's forty was a

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Speaker 4: little bit disappointing because that way to help me draft him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so clearly he wanted him. Do we have the

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Speaker 6: sound pat, Yes? Oh yeah, okay, thanks, Llan, can just

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Speaker 6: play it. I just you got to contrast these two.

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Speaker 4: Basically, when I went to bed that night, I was like,

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Speaker 4: it's it's Keon unless someone just blows us away.

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Speaker 2: We didn't feel anything was attractive enough for us to

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Speaker 3: Key On all considerable things, considerably get the guy's Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And this might be obvious.

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Speaker 6: That's so tomorrow, we're.

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Speaker 5: Just gonna keep trading Auti.

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Speaker 2: Orena get fourteen fifths.

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Speaker 1: Barring someone offering us something stupid, We'll take Keon cool Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a little damning typing Danny.

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Speaker 6: They literally made a video about Brandon being making the selection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little damn And you know what's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Chiom was if y'all remember, he was like the biggest

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Speaker 1: personality the media, sweetheart, the promotion, sweetheart, commercial sweetheart going

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Speaker 1: into the season, like right after he got drafted, he

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Speaker 1: he got he blew up super like, was super popular,

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Speaker 1: was in the media all the time, like people loved

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Speaker 1: him like they I mean, the perception of him was

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Speaker 1: his Q rating was really.

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Speaker 4: I This just tells me how much Josh Allen has

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Speaker 4: covered up things in that organization that maybe we weren't

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Speaker 4: aware of. Because Terry Bacoola sounds like Woody Johnson. He

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Speaker 4: sounds like the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Don't talk about my boy like that. Man.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, now, don't go that far right this, hold

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Speaker 4: don't go that far if you're a Jets fan, and

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Speaker 4: if you're a Jets fan.

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Speaker 1: Of look, I ain't gonna go in in the up round.

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Speaker 1: And hey, I heard Jonas was was going after me.

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Speaker 1: Well I can't.

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Speaker 4: If you ever want to make sure I covered off.

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Speaker 4: If you ever wondered as a Jets fan what it

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Speaker 4: would be like playing the Bills twice a year to

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Speaker 4: have Josh Allen as your quarterback. Well, this is what

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Speaker 4: it's like, Like, this is what it would look like

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Speaker 4: if Josh Allen was your quarter.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're in trouble unless it's the playoffs. Such a

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Speaker 2: bad look.

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, it's not only as what do they know

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Speaker 6: about that?

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Speaker 5: It's a terrible look.

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Speaker 6: And what makes things worse is like I was looking

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Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, this is interesting. I mean, he's

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Speaker 6: got the third highest winning percentage of an active head coach.

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Speaker 5: He only missed the playoffs. Once we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Do you know his winning percentage is fifteenth whole time

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Speaker 6: amongst head coaches.

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Speaker 5: In NFL history. Like, he's been really, really good.

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Speaker 6: They just haven't been able to kind of like crack

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Speaker 6: that seal. And I kind of go back to this

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Speaker 6: discussion we had yesterday because LeVar, you wanted to associate

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Speaker 1: You I love, like trying to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: prove what I'd say is wrong. Guy, You no tellus,

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Speaker 6: Thinking, Brady, what I'm what I'm thinking is like McDermott,

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Speaker 6: who is directly associated with it, he gets clipped, and meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: then Brandon Bean gets credit for it.

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Speaker 5: And meanwhile you've got an owner who's sitting there.

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Speaker 6: Like lambasting the fact that they took Keon Coleman because

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Speaker 6: the coaching staff. Meanwhile, we've got evidence otherwise. I just

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Speaker 6: there's other examples of this within organizations where there's dysfunction,

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Speaker 6: but someone's got the rich guy's ear and somehow, even

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Speaker 6: though again there's evident it's otherwise, he's like brainwashed or

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Speaker 6: he's talked into thinking that, like Yo, no, no I

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Speaker 6: was shot Mac Difference pick. Yeah, I wasn't. It wasn't Brandon's.

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Speaker 6: It's like, no, it was it was Brandon's. That's his job.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly who's pick it was. And not only doesn't

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Speaker 6: I can fire you, it's promoted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I look at it and go, I wonder if candidates

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Speaker 6: who are now looking at that opening. Joe Brady who

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Speaker 6: interviewed yesterday, and there'll be some others as attractive as

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Speaker 6: it is because of Josh Allen looking at it and go,

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Speaker 6: maybe there's a little more there.

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Speaker 1: To Jonas's point, maybe it's not.

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Speaker 6: As functional as as we thought, just because their success

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Speaker 6: and it kind of pairs similarly similarly to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: In away right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to say in the hardball situation,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but yeah, Pittsburgh as well. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Brady shot the whole, you know, to stray on me yesterday,

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Speaker 5: My whole thing was whatever they call him, the field

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Speaker 1: That was ultimately I kind of felt about that play,

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Speaker 5: Was incourage judgment call that got Sean McDermot fired.

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Speaker 1: You can't give a real reason as to why a

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Speaker 3: I did not fire a coach based on a bad

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Speaker 3: We can't say that to somebody coming in. We were

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Speaker 1: Good isn't good enough anymore? I mean I think we

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Speaker 6: But baseball used to be you hit singles, doubles, get

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Speaker 6: so you can't convince me that whoever gets the head

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Speaker 5: You know, the Terry boogol is gonna be like.

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Speaker 6: Oh, well, this doesn't feel good. This feels like a

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Speaker 6: step back. Yeah, dude, Yeah, like you got it took

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think.

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Speaker 6: There's an element of here, and people may take an

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Speaker 5: You know, there's other things that play a factor into that.

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Speaker 6: But The truth is, like luck plays a much bigger

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Speaker 5: How unlucky are we that?

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Speaker 5: Now you got a backup. Playing the AFC.

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Speaker 6: Championship game like that is not anything other than just

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Speaker 5: Either have it or you don't.

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Speaker 1: I like my version of what I thought it was

442
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: poteae a Canadian French thing.

443
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a French thing. I'll double check because

444
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: then they have.

445
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but New Orleans has fre and influence.

446
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: That's why they called him. I think it's a French

447
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: so good. I mean, there's the French in Canada and

448
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: he was always chasing the poutine.

449
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah by the yeah.

450
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: So it's there's problems, man.

451
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 4: There's a first meet in Quebec, Montreal, like the bacon baby.

452
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

453
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 4: So there's a sourdough bread balled fisherman's wharf with some

454
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 4: good clam chowder.

455
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Why are you saying we acting? Why can't we like

456
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 1: clam chowder?

457
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 6: Because the way the way you're saying it right now,

458
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 6: and now he's throwing in sour dough and there's a

459
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 6: whole yeast thing. I mean, we got here's the thing

460
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 6: is larenas sour dough. She knows what I'm talking about.

461
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 6: See she's laughing because it's the whole starter yeast thing.

462
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 6: I just you guys are off, yes, yes, problems.

463
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: Man, So you're heading down the lane and actions like.

464
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 6: I'm actually being honest about how you make sourdo bread

465
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 6: at the moment and like you guys are twisting it.

466
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 5: Into your just right in the gutter. I've been jerking

467
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: the wheel right now.

468
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, just just jerk that wheel into the gutter.

469
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness, this is off.

470
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: The rails, man, it is good.

471
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: Look man, hey, you got you got to go through

472
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: some yuse to get.

473
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: To the dough, you know. Oh man, Okay, all right,

474
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: so thank you. I'm made out and leave it up

475
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: to Jonas to get that one awkward moment to ruin

476
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: the whole bit what.

477
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 6: He always he always acts like he's not a part of.

478
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: This little.

479
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: Good to get to the dough.

480
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: Mess.

481
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

482
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 9: You.

483
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: How many guys are driving around going.

484
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah he's right, Jonas.

485
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: Ain't guys tell him truth this morning?

486
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep it real, all right?

487
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: So what's the latest on this, uh darien mensa crap?

488
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 4: Is he gonna be able to transfer and get to

489
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 4: Miami or is this gonna be uh?

490
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: Are we gonna play this whole.

491
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: Thing like he's still in the east of it.

492
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: What's I mean, you know, LeVar, the yust you could

493
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: do is is I have a real conversation here.

494
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: Well at who's going to have an explanation for it?

495
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: All right?

496
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: So so what do we got here on on Darien Mensa.

497
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 6: He's been uh, he's been deemed to enter the transfer portal. However,

498
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 6: he cannot enroll or play football at another school right

499
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 6: now until a judge rules on Duke's request for an

500
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 6: injunction that would prevent him from leaving Duke.

501
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: So that's where we are at at this point. I

502
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 5: believe he's entered.

503
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 6: The transfer portal with a do not contact designation. For

504
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 6: those of you that don't understand what that means. Typically

505
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 6: when a player enters the transfer portal, they enter and

506
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 6: if you know, their contact information goes out, teams can

507
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 6: start contacting them.

508
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 5: But some cannencer with it do not contact.

509
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 6: And if you ever thought that there wasn't tampering going on,

510
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 6: this is a surefire sign that there is, because why

511
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 6: would you enter into to transfer another school then tell

512
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 6: them that everyone that no one can contact you, especially

513
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 6: if you just entered like, how would you know?

514
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 5: You haven't talked to enough teams.

515
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 6: Out there, But usually this means that there's already been

516
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 6: a team that he has selected.

517
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 5: How that came about? Not sure? Luck, okay, not lucky.

518
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 5: Like the other thing, there was probably at yeast a

519
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 5: conversation that a cured was illegal, so.

520
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: That it was a hug, them hugs and them embraces.

521
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: There they gotta go. You'll never see them after the

522
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: games anymore. If I like, sportsmanship is done, postgame sportsmanship,

523
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: pregame sportsmanship done. You can't talk to your friend. I

524
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: know y'all went to high school together. You can't talk

525
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: to them if y'all want to do it on your

526
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: own time. Y'all want to be on cell phones and

527
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: stuff like that. We can't stop that. But on this field,

528
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: ain't no shaking hands, ain't no hugs.

529
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: Warm embraces, because everybody's recruiting.

530
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's recruiting.

531
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: Bro.

532
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: I've seen it with my own two eyes, and it's wild.

533
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: It's wild, how how blatant it is too. Wasn't didn't

534
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley get accused of that? Wasn't he doing something

535
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: postgames with somebody off.

536
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: Offered a player a million dollars.

537
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 6: What a sport which didn't end up happening, and I

538
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 6: don't know, might have helped them in a specific game

539
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: that you know longer.

540
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: Has to play anymore.

541
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 6: I think what's interesting about this is it's going to

542
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 6: as we I always like to say, from a legal perspective,

543
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 6: it's going to set a precedent in one way or another.

544
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 6: We keep looking for Congress to get involved, to create

545
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 6: antitrust protections for some of these universities so they can

546
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: have some sort of enforceable rules, since a collective bargain

547
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 6: agreement doesn't seem like it's anywhere close to happening.

548
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 5: If that's the case, I just I look at it.

549
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 6: I say, I feel bad in a way for the players,

550
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 6: only because you know he's going to be subject to

551
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 6: a lot of scrutiny and when he gets to Miami,

552
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 6: the expectations are high, which I think he realizes that.

553
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 6: But it's the system that's been set up and that

554
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 6: they're living in. It's not the one that they choose.

555
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 6: Like this isn't how Darien Mensa would like to handle this.

556
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 6: But if you don't think that, you wouldn't want to

557
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 6: go to another school that you feel like has a

558
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 6: better chance of winning a national championship, is going to

559
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 6: compensate you more for what you do.

560
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: You're out of your damn mind.

561
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 6: Like, don't be critical of these kids. You don't know

562
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: their background. You don't know what the shelf life is

563
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 6: for how long they're.

564
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: Going to be able to play. He's had a serious

565
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 5: arm injury.

566
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 6: Like There's elements too, like how teams will view him

567
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 6: once he gets to the combine and he would eventually

568
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 6: goes on in the NFL level in the draft. I

569
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 6: don't know what that means for his career, but I'm

570
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 6: surely not going to judge him for probably taking the

571
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 6: advice of those advising him, which is a whole separate

572
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 6: issue for trying to, you know, find a place that's

573
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: gonna pay him more and let him go try to

574
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 6: win a national championship. I know it looks and maybe

575
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 6: sounds wrong in some ways, but it's the nature of

576
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 6: where we're at in college football.

577
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: Crazy. Once again, we're to a place where all the

578
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: information that's available villainizes the athlete. We're not saying, hey, dude,

579
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: just let the kid the kid he doesn't want to

580
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: be there anymore. Lick your wombs, take your lumps, move on.

581
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: You're an amazing traditional university higher like super higher level

582
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: of education learning institution at Duke.

583
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: Like.

584
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Relax, it's one person, it's one player. Okay, you don't

585
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: want them there. You feel slighted. Oh you know what,

586
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: some type of compensation. I get it, But injunctions that

587
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: he can't leave, you're not allowed to leave, you're gonna

588
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: play here or you're not playing anywhere. Someone needs to

589
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: have their ass whipped over this. That is a college

590
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on student athlete if he wants to

591
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: go somewhere else and utilize the portal, even if your

592
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: contract says what it says, just negotiate the severance, negotiate

593
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: the parting of ways. I have no problem if the conversations.

594
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: When I heard the Georgia lawsuit, I thought it was

595
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: egregious to say he has to pay back moneies that

596
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: haven't been paid to him. But in a way, if

597
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: you think about it, if the kid is leaving to

598
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: go get more money somewhere else, if that is indeed

599
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: what it is that they're leaving for, and it's not

600
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: just because well, for me, I can go here and

601
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: have a chance to win a national title, whatever it is.

602
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: But Georgia does give you a chance to win a

603
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: national title, so maybe you can't use that as an excuse.

604
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: But if for some reason you're leaving because you're getting

605
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: more money, I can understand Georgia is saying, well, we

606
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: want to be compensated because basically you used us to

607
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: be able to get that.

608
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 8: I get that.

609
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: But if you're telling me, and this is what sounds like,

610
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Duke is like, we don't

611
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: want you leaving and we don't want you playing if

612
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: you're not doing it at Duke, that's wrong. That's that's wrong, man.

613
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: That's take take a take a buyout agreement, whatever it

614
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: may be. Maybe that's where college football is hitting. If

615
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: you go into the transfer portal and you're one of

616
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: these high end because we're really talking about a top

617
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: what one percent, it probably won't go out one percent

618
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: of the athletes I had this type of command anyway,

619
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: still buy out.

620
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 6: You know what's interesting, Jonas, I know you don't follow

621
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 6: English Premier League soccer, but you said yesterday it's not true.

622
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: Well okay, and maybe it's not to I never hear

623
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: you talk about it.

624
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 6: Leads what some some teams like you can loan out

625
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 6: players right like you can. There's different mechanisms that are

626
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 6: in place that are in professional leagues elsewhere, and I

627
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 6: wish college football would look at that because I do

628
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 6: feel like there's a model that could help support all

629
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 6: of this, and the EPL model with the lower tier

630
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 6: leagues two would make a lot of sense for college football.

631
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 6: It would reward those programs that maybe aren't viewed as

632
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 6: blue blood, that they don't have as much cash and

633
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 6: so forth for their success and.

634
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: Allow them to get promoted.

635
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: And it would relegate programs that I mean not trying

636
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 6: to hate on Rutgers, just saying I haven't really played

637
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 6: much of a factor in a lot off. I mean,

638
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 6: you could pick your school that hasn't really been able

639
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 6: to hold up. It's part of the bill in some

640
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 6: of these bigger conferences, and if they get relegated down,

641
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: so be it. They have the opportunity to get promoted

642
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: back up. But to me, that would be a much

643
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 6: better model for college football. And I've always said, just

644
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 6: from my time going over there to watch those games,

645
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: that is the closest thing in America to what they

646
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 6: experienced there as far as the culture, the fandom, the

647
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 6: fanatics that are around the game, and really, quite frankly,

648
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: the way this is set up, it would be the

649
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 6: easiest way to handle situations like.

650
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: This, It really would. We don't have enough time.

651
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: We got to hit the break.

652
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying I wish someone would take a

653
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: deeper dive and look at saying maybe this is something

654
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 6: we could we should have in American sports there's some

655
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 6: sort of promotion relegation model, because we don't.

656
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: Have it right now. When they bring you on, just

657
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: make sure I'm with you. I'm with you, you know. That's

658
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: that's all I said. Just make sure I'm like your

659
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: special partner. Can't counsel, you know, because we can go

660
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: through the yeast to get to the dough together in this.

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Speaker 4: Just let me know, speaking of lead, sure did get

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Speaker 5: No, let me look it up.

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Speaker 2: I don't have Wi Fi.

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Speaker 5: And this is a great goal.

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Speaker 1: It so silly, bro.

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Speaker 2: It is two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 1: can sing this song. Everybody can get behind this song.

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Speaker 1: Come on anyway, everybody could get behind this song. So

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Speaker 1: much support. It's so positive. Rain Come on man, ah

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Speaker 2: Come on, Zen come on reading Rain Book.

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Speaker 1: That's right, That's right, that's right. I just love this song. Man.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it never gets old to me.

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Speaker 2: My Brady.

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Speaker 1: Who telling you what going on?

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Speaker 2: So big time?

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Speaker 1: How many did y'all miss? I was done in the

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Speaker 1: like second round? I think pretty quick? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: The team I had, I was all the way done

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Speaker 4: in the second You know how bad my bracket was?

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Speaker 4: A team I had picked in the final, didn't score

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Speaker 4: a point. That's how bad mine was. So is what

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Speaker 4: it is man, But congratulations four perfect brackets.

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Speaker 2: Carrie Rhodes. The winner came.

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Speaker 4: Down to him and Andy Furman and ultimately uh Rose

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Speaker 4: gets a Now that being said, there's been a lot

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Speaker 4: of speculation about what the future of Travis Kelsey is

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Speaker 4: going to be, and uh he had some thoughts on

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Speaker 4: his podcast about the recent edition of Eric Benemy, who

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Speaker 4: was back. Eric Benemy spent one season with the Bears

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Speaker 4: as their running backs coach, and Matt Naggi is moving

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Speaker 4: on Eric b Enemy's back of the building as oc.

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Speaker 4: So let's take a listen to Travis Kelsey's response.

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Speaker 1: I think it's great.

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Speaker 11: I think it's a marriage is going to pick up

728
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 11: right where it left off. Eb and who he is

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Speaker 11: as a as a coach. You can see kind of

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Speaker 11: his personality, what he brings to his table in that

731
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Speaker 11: Chicago team.

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Speaker 5: I know Ben Johnson has his own version of that.

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Speaker 11: He's a very tough guy and what he did in

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Speaker 11: Detroit he brought over as well. And you can see

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Speaker 11: those running backs over Chicago and their their body of

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Speaker 11: work was was definitely Eric b Enemy style.

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Speaker 5: Of football man, and hell yeah, I can't wait to see.

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Speaker 1: Him back in the building.

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Speaker 11: Man, He's one of He's one of my favorite coaches

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Speaker 11: of all time, one of my favorite people of all time.

741
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Speaker 11: I've had so many unbelievable, you know, growing moments under

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Speaker 11: him as a as a player, as a person, and

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Speaker 11: I just love the guy and it's gonna be awesome

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Speaker 11: to see him back in the building and see him back.

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Speaker 1: We're in the Chiefs logo, baby, So there we go.

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Speaker 1: I was excited to see him back, which they haven't

747
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Speaker 1: been a good offense since he left. I know everybody

748
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Speaker 1: gave Andy Reid the credit for calling the plays, but

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Speaker 1: he was there and I think he played a major role.

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Speaker 5: Didn't won a Super Bowl after he left, well.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people would debate that it

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Speaker 1: was based upon their defense and now their defense played

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Speaker 1: and how they have played. I mean, I'm just being

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 5: The enemy was doing well like he left, Like, here's

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Speaker 5: the reality. The enemy didn't do well. The Chiefs won

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl? Like can we stop?

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm just could the reunion be? People can have

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Speaker 1: opinions outside to yours. Pretty okay, true, Well, in your estimation,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't true. A lot of people would say a

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Speaker 1: lot of people would say spagnol Le and that defense

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Speaker 1: was the catalyst of that team success. That's not a

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Speaker 1: that's not a that's my truth. How about I hope.

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes go somewhere else so we can really see

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Speaker 6: that Steve Spagnola defense.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he did go somewhere else because he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been to Patrick Mahomes that was there early on,

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been. He wasn't that guy this year, last year,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't that guy the year before.

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Speaker 5: He was hurt.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, well there you go, he's hurt.

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Speaker 1: There you go like that. That makes it all better.

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Speaker 1: That makes it all better. Patrick Mahomes was hurt and

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Speaker 1: and that's it, Like okay, But what I do know

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Speaker 1: is Eric b Enemy had a bigger impact on that

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Speaker 1: offense than what he was given credit for. That's what

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Speaker 1: I do know. How about that great they won a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. I'm totally aware of the fact that they

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Speaker 1: won a super Bowl, and I'm totally aware of the

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Speaker 1: fact that the catalyst of their team has been their defense,

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Speaker 1: and whether people want to give them that credit or not,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been the same since Eric b Enemy and

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Speaker 1: the Cheeta left that team done. That's my that's that's

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Speaker 1: my take on it. Now you could come in and

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Speaker 1: say what reality is from your reality, but my reality

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Speaker 1: is a little different than yours. And that's okay. It's

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Speaker 1: an old book. Just take a look. It's reading Rainbow.

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Speaker 1: There you go, my reading Rainbow. That break. So my opinion, look,

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Speaker 1: he didn't went to AI. Let me go to AI.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me go to AI. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to You're in there, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: My opinion is this is is a good marriage for

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Speaker 6: both Eric b Enemy and obviously some of the players,

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Speaker 6: guys like Travis Kelce who missed them and wanted him back.

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Speaker 6: To say that the Chiefs need him is completely false

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Speaker 6: and not true. They won a Super Bowl, they won

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Speaker 6: another AFC championship and lost in the Super Bowl without him.

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Speaker 6: This is the first year where you saw signs of struggles,

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Speaker 6: and I would say I'll be curious to see what

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Speaker 6: happens with their offense next years. As Eric Banamy left

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00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 6: and went for other opportunities, I don't think things worked

802
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Speaker 6: out in Washington.

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Speaker 5: They didn't work out at UCLA. So it is what

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Speaker 5: it is.

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00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 6: Like again, sometimes you know, it ends up being the

806
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Speaker 6: right fit at a certain spot for all parties involved,

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Speaker 6: and that could be what this is. So I know

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Speaker 6: Travis Kelse is excited about it. I think the bigger

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Speaker 6: take wasn't the Eric b Enemy take on this. It's

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Speaker 6: the fact that everyone thought Travis kels was going to retire,

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Speaker 6: and he alluded to the way he talked about it,

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Speaker 6: like he can't wait to see him in that building

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00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 6: and all that, Like, oh, all right, so you're coming back?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 6: That was I thought, actually the bigger take from the

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Speaker 6: SoundBite m because like every TV network wrote him off

817
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 6: like it was the last game he'd ever play, and

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Speaker 6: it kind of made it sound like maybe that's not

819
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Speaker 6: the case.

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Speaker 4: I My thing on the Travis Kelsey potential retirement was

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Speaker 4: I just wonder if he looks at it and says, man,

822
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Speaker 4: I don't want to go out without Patrick Mahomes, like I,

823
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't want, you know, my my last

824
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Speaker 4: catch as a chief to be from you know, Chris

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Speaker 4: Aladuke and I believe is his name, and that's no

826
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Speaker 4: shade on him, But I think Travis Kelsey has a

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Speaker 4: storybook potential storybook ending in his mind, he's got, he's

828
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Speaker 4: got his fantasy that he wants in his mind met

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Speaker 4: and that's with Patrick Mahomes on the field with him,

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Speaker 4: and he walks off and goes into the sunset because

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Speaker 4: you know, I think I don't think he battled the

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Speaker 4: injuries and was as banged up as he had been

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Speaker 4: in previous years. And so when you hear him in

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Speaker 4: the way he talks about Eric b Enemy, it's like, Okay, well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe the window does open. Maybe Patrick Mahomes starts the

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Speaker 4: season on the pup list and maybe there's an opportunity

837
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: for him there. It also, you know, would indicate that

838
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: apparently things weren't weren't great with Matt Naggy. He's now

839
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Speaker 4: interviewing as the OC and Philly when he was up

840
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: for the head coaching job in Tennessee and there's not

841
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: a pathroom to get back to Kansas City.

842
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Speaker 1: So coaches go different places and underperform all the time

843
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: after having success somewhere prior to that happens. That's not unique.

844
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Speaker 6: Sure, unique Mahomes quarterback. I would love to call plays

845
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Speaker 6: for Patrick.

846
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Speaker 1: Sure, once he became Patrick Mahomes, I can make a

847
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Speaker 1: bad play call, And I know he's good enough to

848
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Speaker 1: overcome that. Well, the same nag tell the truth about it,

849
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Speaker 1: Like Naggy did not get the same results as as

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Speaker 1: airby enemy as the offensive coordinator. Well, yeah he did,

851
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Speaker 1: because they didn't. They were ranked, they won a super Bowl,

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00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: they went the two. What's their ranking under Naggy? What

853
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: what's their offensive rankings?

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Speaker 5: Does it matter if they win a Super Bowl?

855
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Speaker 2: Yes, because there's a reason why.

856
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so so, Trent, here's the Let's put Dilpourh

857
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, Like, hey, y'all won the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Trent, you're in the Hall of Fame too.

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Speaker 6: Everything he's always got a Super Bowl, He's always got

860
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Speaker 6: a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He does he always one of the greatest defenses in

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Speaker 1: the history of the game. Let's put Vince there. Let's

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Speaker 1: put h McMahon in there. Like let's wrong, let's go

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Speaker 1: back to eighty five, Like, let's put McMahon in.

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Speaker 4: Cocky QB known as it's a great argument when you

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Speaker 4: use only two cases in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: If you if you did that the other day, q

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Speaker 1: I learned from the best. You're gonna give me Indiana

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00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: as well. It was a basketball school. Yeah, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: you gave me one example. I'm giving you too. I

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Speaker 1: beat you by one. What are you talking about when

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00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: we were discussing the Duke Blue Devils being a football

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00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: school and you used Indiana as an example as well,

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00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: they are considered to be a football or basketball school

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean I said you gave me one extreme example.

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Speaker 1: I gave you two extreme examples. I'm not not hiding

878
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Speaker 1: from that. But nonetheless, Trent Dilfer and what what's what's

879
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Speaker 1: what's McMahon's first day. You're saying at this point, Jim McMahon,

880
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon, there you go or not? I mean you're saying, oh,

881
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: you got Patrick Mahomes. That's you're going to win a

882
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Like, let's just go away work and go

883
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: full circle here.

884
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: Okay, So in factful as a play caller, okay, that

885
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 6: he's now interviewing for other offensive coordinator jobs.

886
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 5: Is that fair?

887
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 4: Right?

888
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: No, it's not fair.

889
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 5: I mean because Andy Reid, that's the reality of it.

890
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 6: The funny thing about your argument is you're trying to

891
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 6: make an argue about who the O C is as

892
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 6: if it matters. Reid still calls the plays. Bro that's

893
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 6: why Eric Banemy wanted to go.

894
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Okay, So there's no contribution to the success

895
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: of the offense, because.

896
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Speaker 6: Sure, sure there's contribution. I'm not trying to be little

897
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: what they're doing. But if Andy Reid calls the plays,

898
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 6: no different than Kyle shanahan, No that different than Sean McVay,

899
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 6: no different than Kevin O'Connell. Do you think the offensive

900
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 6: coordinator position is as important if the guy who's actually

901
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 6: calling the plays is the head coach.

902
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it is important because of the structure, because of

903
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: the execution of it, the implementation of it, and here's

904
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Speaker 1: what I tell you is the personal relationships of it.

905
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: You can't sit there.

906
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 6: You can't sit there in one instance and say, well,

907
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 6: you gotta give your giin me credit and.

908
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 5: Then not give Matt Naggie credit.

909
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: Then can you well, cat Naggy was not The offense

910
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: was not as productive under mcnaggy as it was under

911
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: Eric b enemy.

912
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 5: Right, who didn't call plays.

913
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, there was times when it wasn't

914
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: as plea you're saying both of them didn't call plays. Correct, Okay,

915
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter right now.

916
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 5: What you're making is that he's back, like he's gonna

917
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Speaker 5: make a difference.

918
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: It's not gonna make a difference.

919
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 5: Their issue the pieces around Patrick Mahomes.

920
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I don't buy that. And the

921
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: reason why I don't buy it.

922
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Speaker 5: Is but Chelsea isn't the same player.

923
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: He is the same that I mean, he isn't he's older. Like,

924
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't. I don't have a problem with debating,

925
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: like there's no debate on Chelsea is old, Like it's

926
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Speaker 1: not he's not the same player. I get that. But

927
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: if you're telling me the impact of the o C

928
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: on Kansas City has no bearing on their success, I've

929
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: never said it doesn't hating You're no.

930
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter as much if he's not calling the plays.

931
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Speaker 6: It's different compared to other organizations with the head coach.

932
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Speaker 6: For example, John Harbaugh is the head coach of the

933
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Speaker 6: New York Giants.

934
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Speaker 1: You know what he's not gonna do, LeVar, He's okay.

935
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 6: So don't you think the offensive coordator matters a little

936
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 6: bit more then well.

937
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: In that category, in that instance, it matters more. Yes,

938
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: that's correct. You my god, But the behind the Saints

939
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: is just as important as the person who's calling the plays.

940
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: It's just as important, and it is. It is by

941
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: the way, the.

942
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: Behind the scenes for both is the same.

943
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 6: The differences those guys aren't the ones pulling the trigger

944
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 6: on game day, which has a significant importance. I've played

945
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Speaker 6: for plenty of offensive coordinators who can put together a

946
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 6: good game plan, but when the game starts, they don't

947
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 6: know how.

948
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: To call plays.

949
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, that's like having a defensive coordinator who calls,

950
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 6: I am an NFL EVET.

951
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna call You do know I'm an NFL VET.

952
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: You do know that. I've been around offensive coordinators too.

953
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a quarterback, but I'm pretty I'm pretty learning.

954
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 6: And you've never been around a defensive coordinator who couldn't

955
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 6: call good defense?

956
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: Well, didn't know what was coming. I wouldn't say couldn't

957
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 1: call put you in a bad spot? Well, I would

958
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: say most most head coaches are delegators of duties, That's

959
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: what I would say. And if you want to not

960
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: delegate play calling because you trust your play calling instincts better,

961
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: or take over during the course of a game because

962
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: you feel like you can make a difference more so

963
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: than what the OC is doing, sure, I've been around

964
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: o c's and DC's that been that way. I've been

965
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: around head coaches that way. What you mean, where are

966
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: you going with this? What do you mean? What am

967
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: I saying?

968
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 5: Well, you're not even answering the question. Have you not

969
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: been with the defensive coordinator where.

970
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: You're, like you said, it couldn't keep I don't. I

971
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever been around a coordinator that

972
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: couldn't call plays, or or a head coach that couldn't

973
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: call plays.

974
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Speaker 6: I mean, you've never been with a defensive cornator you

975
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 6: thought was bad at calling defenses?

976
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: Well, I thought they were bad coordinators.

977
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: But I mean that's what I would say, that they

978
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: couldn't call plays, they called plays. They got the job. Okay,

979
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: how many people get a coordinator's job at the NFL level,

980
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: at the pro level. I mean's there's only so many jobs.

981
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: There's all. You got to go through a very very

982
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: extensive process, from what it looks like, to get these positions.

983
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: They had to do something right to get there. They

984
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: had to do something right. What did they do right?

985
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Because I don't know, I mean, maybe I just don't know.

986
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just ignorant to it.

987
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 6: Apparently you don't because like Kevin Patulo, did he do

988
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 6: a good job Philly?

989
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: Obviously not one job? Yeah? Then he got fired.

990
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 5: Like yeah, let's give this guy try it doesn't work

991
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 5: out well, okay, Like, well.

992
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: That opens up a larger Then that opens up a

993
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: larger conversation because it all the time. Then that opens

994
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: up a larger conversation because to me, you gotta be

995
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: good enough to be able to get the job, to

996
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: met enough to get away from any of their ability

997
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: to get the job or what their job is when

998
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: they become an OC. But the reality is, LeVar, if

999
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: you're not calling place, the title isn't as powerful. It's

1000
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: just not do you hear what this young man is

1001
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: doing to me? Right now? All right, let's move on.

1002
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: Let's move on this younger generation of guys. Man, I'm

1003
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: telling you, they different, They different, Come on, man.

1004
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: I mean to that point though, if the head coach

1005
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 4: is calling plays, yes, thank you, man, I would sit here.

1006
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: So let's have some well, let's have some sense edit

1007
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 4: the for for example, Kyle Shannan's lost a bunch of coordinators.

1008
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 4: Sean McVay has lost a bunch of coordinators. If you

1009
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: know Declan Doyle leaves. You know Ben Johnson still calls

1010
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: the plays. There would be a significant influence of the

1011
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 4: coach on the offensive structure and success.

1012
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, Detroit, there was the same team this year. They

1013
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 6: lost Ben Johnson, right, he was actually calling plays. He

1014
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 6: goes to Chicago. Are they the same same team as

1015
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 6: last year? No, Ben Johnson's calling plays. He happens to

1016
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 6: be really good at it. It makes a difference.

1017
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: My god, I just I'm done. I'm done. I don't

1018
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: want to talk to you anymore for this segment. That's fine,

1019
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm done. Do I have a livery I'm going to

1020
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: prepare for my life. That's no. You should. We've ran

1021
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: long on the segment. Take us to break down. Sometimes

1022
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: you're the ass and sometimes you're the dry piece of

1023
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: toilet paper. But if you ever wiped in wonder is

1024
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Speaker 1: this as good as it gets?

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 5: You can at least answer that before he goes.

1030
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 2: I think he comes back.

1031
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 5: It sounds like he wants to come back. That was

1032
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 5: the only damn thing we're trying to get from the

1033
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: combo of LeVar hijacked it.

1034
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why levars Patrick Mahomes so much.

1035
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: Why does he hate Travis Kelsey so much? He's taking

1036
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: a show.

1037
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: I know what this is because of the trade we made.

1038
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: Hey man, we traded Patrick Mahomes for Babe Ruth.

1039
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: When y'all do I hate when y'all do this. What

1040
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: go to break? Man to break? Go to break? And yes,

1041
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: he's getting his offensive coordinator back. He's going to come

1042
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: back and have a great year, all right. They're going

1043
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: to be a productive offense, score more points, average, more yards.

1044
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 5: You know, Patrick Mahomes will be back healthy for week one.

1045
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: Don't matter. It'll be good because there will be enemies back.

1046
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: We will.

1047
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: We're gonna tell you if you've ever wondered what would

1048
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 4: it be like to go back in time, Apparently somebody's

1049
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,960
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